Thread 510074259

Pentagon just announced unlimited and regulation-free mass production of millions of cheap drones. Looks like Hegseth is drawing proper conclusions from war in Ukraine. I am impressed.

https://files.catbox.moe/ds5xfh.mp4

Absolutely based!

>>510074259 (OP)
why does america have like only 10% the drones, artillery and tanks that russian and china have? those seem like pretty vital components of war

>>510074259 (OP)
None of this was Hegseth's idea. Thank Biden for it.

So when they gonna have a drone with a gun attached to it? Who is the first country to clear out a trench with a drone with a riffle on it and post the vid?

>>510074259 (OP)
Drones have been around for years. Obama had an entire drone program killing sand niggers with them.

>>510074395
Due to different priorities because of different strategy.

>>510074395
US has around 5k artillery pieces, Russia around 4k (some of it probably depleted in Ukraine) and China around 9k, so looks like only China has a dominance in numbers. If we talk about tanks, all countries are similar, around 6k of tanks in active service

>>510074395
"muh aircraft carriers"

>>510074259 (OP)
Fuck those aus anons who memed their shit into ukraine are going to make a fortune.

>>510074395
Why are you so bad at math?

>>510074496
Expensive and big drones were a thing for decades. Now we talk about swarms of millions of cheap and small drones powered by AI.

>>510074496
Those were legit drones
The drones they are talking about now are quadcopters from the RC era.

>>510074528
What will China use it's artillery cannons to shoot at? When it gets into a land war with Russia or India? Not gonna do shit in a war with Taiwan.

Why does he walk like he's shit himself?
Would have been funny if he got accidentally drone strikes. Missed opportunity desu.

>>510074592
They've killed so many ziggers though it's unreal

>>510074259 (OP)
>millions of cheap drones.
The project will devolve into producing 5 prototypes of stealth personal carrier suicide drones for 35 billion dollars.

Enter Sandman chorus in the end of the clip was fkn badass xD

>>510074259 (OP)
>american crafted drone
Same as iphones "design is california"

>>510074970
good morning saar

>>510074259 (OP)
omg it's 2014 again!

>>510075049
Big, expensive drones being easy target for AA are the past. The future are swarms of drones of fly size coordinated by the AI, so communication was no longer needed. Skynet tier basically.

>>510074259 (OP)
thousands not millions and commercial grade, a giant grift

>>510074395
The US is too busy buying shit equipment that breaks down and needs constant maintenance from a select few defense companies to make a few people richer without any due regard for the national security of the country.

>>510074259 (OP)
Why is it waving a white flag?

>>510074659
2,000,000 Slavs have been slaughtered by Jews.
You should probably kill your family now.

>>510075210
>breaks down and needs constant maintenance from a select few defense companies

True. You need less regulations and bigger diversification just like times of Cold War. Soviet Union disintegration resulted in radical scaling down of production and creating few fat cats like Lockheed or Raytheon that produce too little and too expensive, and dont really care about R&D anymore as much as they should because they have guarateed orders from the US Army. More competition and decentralisation is needed.

>>510074395
Russian arty is shit and getting BTFO by drones in Ukraine, Chink artillery is old, shoddy copies of 1960s SOVIET arty. You do the math.

>>510075204
We will see. But direction is proper. The cheaper the better. The more the better. Tricky and limited communication thx to AI algorithms coordinating entire swarms in real time. Using drones as anti-drones. Creating EW-resistant solutions. Thats the future of modern battlefield.

>>510074970
The Cuckblade is exactly that, costs like $10,000 per unit and I saw a video of one hitting a group of 4 Ziggers and they all walked away with minor injuries.
No, this is new, they are going to make cheap quadcopter drones like what Piggers are making with their 3D printers and a raspberry pi.

>>510075768
they fly 4 drones while the chinks do 10000, their show case tells me they got terminally case of grift

>>510075796
and buy them for $20000

How come Americans don't die of retardation-induced cringe? This is embarrassing.

>>510075853
Give them a chance. I am impressed they are capable to notice trends in modern battlefield. Looks like they draw conclusions from Ukraine-Russia war. America has very cheap energy, cheapest in the world, it has access to critical resources needed for such production, they just began to build Industry 4.0 that needs no humans for mass production. America is also global champion in AI, China still slightly lacks behind. They have everything they need to become a total dominator in military tech of the future.

>>510074259 (OP)
>replicator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oQsaRW8mg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTS_NaqPe5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYbjhiQrFEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUlzKE3bn-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_A440qj3SE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESBf7hGCJQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3F_f0U6jIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vntz6ZmVCfg

we wuz drone

>>510075140
>swarms of drones of fly size coordinated by the AI
sounds suicidal :D

>>510075984
nah they are pathological thieves

>>510074259 (OP)
That was a supremely underwhelming video. God damn.

>drone racing league
>sponsored by US Air Force
>competitive drone racing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTifvVZBNWs

>>510074395
Unfortunately, doing insider trading with fake paper money doesn't magically produce materials and manufacturing.

>>510074395
more like less than 1%
>>510074528
russia has much more artillery than the u.s.

>>510075796
>>510075878
Switchblade was a spectacular failure because it was designed for pinpoint strikes, the 300 models small warhead, equivalent to a 40mm grenade proved ineffective against Russian tanks and artillery, this shit was even too weak to softer targets like infantry or unarmored vehicles. 10-15 minute endurance and 10km range restricted operational flexibility compared to alternatives like fkn commercial FPV drones with grenades. The 600 model with a Javelin-based warhead was more effective but it was a dead-end due to cosmically high price like $100k per unit xD

I hope they drew proper conclusions from failure of their loitering munition in Ukraine

>>510074259 (OP)
The only good consequence of relatively and cheap slow drones on the battlefield, is the emergence of motorcycle assault units traversing the Killzone and outpacing drones in hysterically dynamic and cool actions.

Propaganda will eventually catch up to the "heroic" inspiration potential of these scenarios and resurrect the imagery of horseback ironclad knights.

>>510076632
>the emergence of motorcycle assault units traversing the Killzone and outpacing drones in hysterically dynamic and cool actions.

Drones are faster. These units get decimated as well, ask Russians. Anyways, this kind of infantry units becomes rational on the battlefield saturated with drones, it is still more effective than fe driving trucks or smth xD

>>510076632
Drones are quicker.

>>510074259 (OP)
why did he ping @doge ?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2008/dec/11/gunsnroses-elvis-presley-human-rights
>Amongst the songs most used are: Metallica's Enter Sandman
kek fucking boomers, honestly Don't tread on me would be a superior choice, even if "ironic"

>>510076925
Creeping Death would be an optimal choice. The best Metallica song ever. Iconic headbanger.

https://youtu.be/sEWJXLJ6GTk?si=hPR45HPB9wdH2GpH

>>510077082
Hey polish fren, do you know what I do remember as well? The day i went to meet her grandfather, a farmer. Election day in that small city wasn't it? I remember her family telling me they were rooting for me to win a competition as well even though they said it was going to be a family competition amongst themselves. Take care!

DPRK alone produces more drones than the US, let alone Russia, let alone China. Mutts are incredibly late into the game, their shit is overpriced and incompetitive (look at Switchblade), their industrial capacity is nowhere near enough for anything approaching "dominance" (look at Patriots), and that PR video is cringe.

>>510077291
Give them a chance

>>510077291
based truth.

thread is retarded.

>>510077180
Oh yeah and the figs. Thanks for the figs.

>>510074259 (OP)
Shieet, a new announcement from the Trump administration just dropped.
Announcement sisters, we are so back.

>>510077374
Amerimutts have a magic ability to get up after knockout. How many times we heard the US is finished during Cold War because they lagged behind Soviets in space tech in the beginning or because they lost Vietnam war. Modern Amerimutts are no longer a human capital, it is absolutely fkn insane post-capitalistic powerhouse leading in most crucial technologies of the future such as AI. True, they vastly lack in industrial potential compared to China, hell, even their economy is less robotized than Chinese one currently, but they still have a lot of aces up the sleeve.

>>510077578
40% white, can't build planes anymore, can't build cars, dependent on chinks to build their semiconductors. mutts are behind in AI, china produces the most AI patents in the world, even nvidia admits that. they are losing against houthis, iran, let alone russia and china

>>510077800
Humans would become irrelevant up to end of this decade thx to AI. Why do you think they are so determined to poison everyone with gene therapies? Most of what you said is true except of China leading in AI, they are still slightly behind. If the US successfuly switches to human-less R&D centers and human-less factories of Industry 4.0, everything is possible

>>510077945
china is ahead in AI, most AI rnd is chinese. you have been wrong this thread lmao

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/report-shows-china-dominates-ai-110000441.html

>>510074259 (OP)
With what manufacturing base?

>>510074259 (OP)
>less drones
>more expansive
>in "two weaks"
Remind NASA, few decades ago. Just before, they outsourced to Russia. Expect many films about American superiority over the country they outsource to.

Where do they get their parts from or the raw material?

No raw earth for your drones or othrr mil tech, have you not got the notice from China?>>510078090

>>510078023
China trails the US od A in AI due to limited access to advanced semiconductors from US export controls, inferior compute capacity, US basically dominating in high-performance AI chips, Chinks have weaker innovation ecosystem and US of A is leading in frontier AI models (40 vs. Chinas 15 in 2024 btw). Chinkoids have less private-sector investment in the field (over $100bln in the US vs. ridiculous $9bln in China in 2024). Heavy regulatory constraints slow down public-facing AI development in China, finally the US is attracting more global AI talent from around the world, like vast majority of leading engineers in OpenAI are from Poland and China (2nd position). Chinks still rely on open-source US models like Llama. Finally China has slower AI diffusion outside major cities.

>>510074395
the usa just wasn't ready to fight a large scale war against Russia. They probably expected Putin to give up after a month, but instead the Russians innovated and showed the world the power of small uav drones , electronic warfare, and mass infantry blitz. Ukraine vs Russia is basically all of the west vs Russia and they can barely hold the line.

>>510078161
Prime Liv Tyler.

>>510074259 (OP)
Not news. The US has been buying drones for years. We were shopping for cheap models last year. Look up Biden's "Replicator Initiative"

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/pentagon-buys-two-new-types-drones-under-replicator-initiative-2024-11-13/

>>510077082
I mean, I like the music so it'd be weird to be tortured by it... probably will be annoyed I don't have my good headphones to listen to it.... they can try with a 64kbps mp3 torturing me

>>510078479
She didnt know Steven Tyler was her dad til she was 11, thought Todd Rundgren was her pops. Her elf ears for Lord of the Rings melted on her car dash once. Shes fluent in French, sang in That Thing You Do!, and almost quit acting for good before The Leftovers. Shes big into transcendental meditation, helps with stress and mom life. Also, shes an UNICEF Goodwill Ambassador and loves vintage fashion, often rocking unique fits. Moved to London for privacy, away from Hollywood chaos. Her only shortcoming is that she has a vagina instead of big juicy dick.

>>510078798
I like raw 80s Metallica shows. Check this one out:

https://youtu.be/lRArbRr-61E?si=QOeqyez2y3FIDo55

This is absolutely fkn insane. Burton was so talented and ahead-of-time.

>>510074259 (OP)
I'm probably still never going to ever build a single drone for the human trash on this shithole continent

>>510079304
Agreed. No joke, when Metallica announced their show in Chorzów I got my entire friend group to start planning. Big Hype!

>>510079304
>Cliff Burton was the Jimi Hendrix of bass

I liked this comment the most thats why i up-liked it.

>>510078743
The main difference here is that it looks like the USA is moving away from its existing drone fleet where individual units have a floor price in the tens of thousands to adopting the current standard where drones cost at most a couple of thousand.

Laddies and gentle traps... America being "great" again:

>>510074395
M. I. C. = Misappropriating Investments into Corruption

>>510079515
In 1987, Metallica played their first Polish gigs at Katowices Spodek. Fans from Walbrzych, psyched after the show, tracked down James Hetfield at the Warszawa Hotel. They invited him for vodka... and he showed up, chilling like a regular dude. They taught him Polish cuss words like pizda, jebać, kurwa etc, he even jotted them down, laughing. Drank some nasty herbal vodka, partied hard. No rockstar ego, just good vibes, making it a legendary night for those fans.

>>510079901
SOVL........................................

>>510080220
Imagine emotional state of poorfag youth from communist shithole, that by pure accident meet a global music star in proximity of the best hotel in the country, they use broken English to invite him to their poorfag-room shared by like a dizen of guys to reduce cost of renting.... and then Hetfield himself knocks at their door.

Truly legendary story.

>>510080419
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-RUrSl4Y7w
Your link earlier started a playlist I can't stop................ drums are hammers from hell here

>>510080721
The Skydio X10D is not made entirely from US-produced components either. Producer emphasizes US design and assembly (wow), this thing relies on Chinese-made parts, like Dongguan batteries fe, due to supply chain constraints.xD

Anyways, it is just propaganda vid. We shouldnt be so brutal. Lets wait for results.

>>510081243
Mavic 3T has comparable specs to this drone as well, but it costs only $3k. So the price must be reduced at least x10 for the drone to meet effect2cost requirement on modern battlefield.

>>510077291
Approximately 80% of components in Russian drones, such as Shahed-136/131, Lancet, Orlan etc are sourced from China. These include critical electronics, cameras, engines, navigation modules, fiber optics, name it. Even China-origin reports indicate China supplies 67% of foreign components, with some estimates reaching 80% for critical electronics. Chinese firms often use intermediaries or disguise parts as civilian goods to bypass export controls. Despite tightened restrictions, dual-use technologies continue to flow af, significantly enabling your drone production. So stop cosplaying as smth more than Chinese junior partner in this field. However, i notice your vast improvement in using drones, war is best improvement-factor

>>510079901
I live 10min walk from Spodek.
My dad saw them near (now) Courtyard hotel when leaving the cars to get checked in.

>>510083570
*in 2008.

>>510083185
>everything and the kitchen sink lumped together in one glorious peremoga post
Kek. Shaheds have been full localized for good while now.
>stop cosplaying as smth more than Chinese junior partner in this field
As opposed to who? US has done how many reports on inextricable Chinese supply chains deep in every branch of their MIC now?

>>510076414
this is the pinnacle of American engineering you're disrespecting here, pollack
shut up, you are irrelevant and we own you

>>510074395
they're the only nation of the 3 with a functioning air force

>>510074259 (OP)
>GabeZZOZZ
for someone reason the German government hates him

>>510083803
https://xcancel.com/GabeZZOZZ/status/1943413957294690470#m

>>510083684
2025 CSIS analysis indicates 60-80% of critical components like electronics, navigation systems and engines are Chinese-made. The Yermak-McFaul group found 67% of Shahed-136/131, Lancet, and Orlan-10 parts originate in China. Your efforts to scale domestic production at facilities like Alabuga is noticable but reliance on Chinese components persists due to sanctions limiting access to western tech. You are a lady of the yellow man now in this aspect. Besides Chinese diplomat admitted in public lately that China is interested in victory of Russia in Ukraine so things couldnt be more obvious at this point

>>510074259 (OP)
we should be mass producing drones like the gerad-3+ and stationing them in europe. 1,000,000 should be about right.

>>510083684
2025 CSIS analysis indicates 60-80% of critical components like electronics, navigation systems and engines are Chinese-made. The Yermak-McFaul group found 60+% of Shahed-136/131, Lancet, and Orlan-10 parts originate in China. Your efforts to scale domestic production at facilities like Alabuga is noticable but reliance on Chinese components persists due to sanctions limiting access to western tech. You are a lady of the yellow man now in this aspect. Besides Chinese diplomat admitted in public lately that China is interested in victory of Russia in Ukraine so things couldnt be more obvious at this point

>>510074259 (OP)
as usualy, the militaries today prepare for yesterdays war

drones are a meme since countermeasures against them are developed rendering most of current ones complete useless soon. Already now the only drone used are the wired ones. Soon every fpv drone will be useless because of automatic laser interception. One should invest in autonomous ai powered ground platforms and large CHEAP suicide drones.

>>510083983
thanks bro

>>510084146
>completely ignores the uncomfortable question
>repeats the same nonsensical media-statement with drastically different drones lumped together
Right on brother. Any day now the Wheel of Genotba will turn and the Great Peremoga shall come about.

>>510084175
EW works in sectors, it is unable to embrace entire drone-saturated battlefield and EW vs drone is a constant fight, both things must be constantly updated. Lasers now are useless against swarms of drones, it is incomparably more effective to use AI-controlled 12.7-35mm robotized cannons with cheap yet effective programmable munitions. The future of anti-drone defence is using drones as cheap anti-drone suicide loitering munition imo. Drones killing drones, basically. The only thing that matters is to make sure that drone-killers are cheaper than drone-assaulters.

>>510084312
Ukrainian women clean my house on weekly basis. Thats the only connection i have with Ukraine, objectively.

>>510074493
They can already make this, and they have, but there are ammunition and fuel issues with those robots.

>>510074259 (OP)
How much a pop?

>>510074395
Upper brass in the technology requisition realm are very stubborn with adapting to new technology. The navy specifically is a bureaucratic mess because every little subsystem on a sub or carrier has one specific guy assigned to it instead of general mechanics and any repairs are documented down to the washers. Most navy research development is sustainment for existing vessels and trying to convince brass to use stuff like additive manufacturing or drones takes a while at best

>>510085181
Regulation free probably means free to use bottom of the barrel everything so probably real fucking cheap with a nonzero chance the recycled batteries swell up randomly

>>510075396
We need less jews. Our small arms got sold out to sig on the cheap.

>>510085528
Jews are a vanity thing. You might tolerate them when you are very powerful and have a lot of money that you basically dont know how to spend, but if you find yourself in situation of critical shortages, Jews become a net-drain on your painfully limited resources and they might even secretly collaborate with yoyr enemies for theif profit. Trust a Pole, we have 1k years experience with Jews as we were receiving any amounts of them for long centuries after they were being kicked out from everywhere in Europe xD

>>510078301
>the power of mass infantry blitz
fucking
lmao

>>510085778
Yeah that's why half of America hates jews now.
>Trust a pole
My family before coming to the US in the early 1900s also knew plenty about the jews. That's why they pass laws against talking about the jew .

>>510075530
>You do the math.
mutts are literally losing to haitians on sea
you are absolutely delusional if you think that doesn't represent the overall state of mutt militarily industrial complex
the only thing it can do and do well is laundering taxpayers money for kikes

>>510084175
> Soon every fpv drone will be useless because of automatic laser interception. One should invest in autonomous ai powered ground platforms and large CHEAP suicide drones.
Only America,Israel and Britain has working laser interceptors

>>510086233
These interceptors are fkn useless tho.

>>510074493
>drone with a riffle on it
rifle is heavy, bullet isnt exposive. grenade is better

>>510075984
in theory. in practice amerifucks are ruled by thieves, liars, perverts, because amerifucks are adulterers, oathbreakers, and take advantage of each other

>>510074970
Hey look, a shit eater.

>>510074493
I don't think it's possible energy wise but
>ionising ray gun
>powerful electric arc goes through ionic channel
>death

Mount this on a drone

>>510074395
Because the US armed forces aren't being trained to fight other countries.
They're being trained to fight Americans.

>>510078835

solid 3/10
no tits ass and str8 guys dont liek their girls with a cock

>>510079807

in jew micropenis dreams

>>510086655
Rumors about inevitable collapse of USA are at least 200 years old. My great-grandparents, grandparents, parents were fed with rumors about inevitable, near and certain collapse of USA but it never happened. USA is like a tumor, a tumor is theoretically immortal as long as it doesnt kill the host. If USA doesnt destroy the planet completely, it means it would most probably outlive all of us like a tumor.

>>510074259 (OP)
>MUH DRONES!
>Muh DRONE ARMY!
>NOTHING CAN BEAT MY DRONE ARMY!
>Sends in EMP.
>150 billion in army drones gets flushed down the toilet in an instant.
>Now you are wide open for a massive buttfucking.

>>510087020
EMP can neutralize only some fracture of drones on the battlefield but it cant neutralize new fresh supplies just heading to frontlines. Hardened military drones may resist low-yield EMPs. Battlefield deployment of EMPs is limited by range, cost and collateral damage to friendly systems. Moreover it always generate mirror-response from your opponent which disables you as well.

>>510086917
I am 80% hetero, 20% homo, like Marilyn Manson. It means that i prefer girls to boys in statistical manner but sucking some tasty lady-dick is always an option.

>>510086681
Shart in mart mutt

the USA is such a feverdream with niggers and spics

>>510074259 (OP)
BUT I AM 12

DEEP DOWN EVERYONE IS 12

BASED HEGSETH

>>510074395
Because capitalism unironically. Russia and China can focus on what their state needs, while the US is beholden to corporations.

Imagine hood niggers with cheap access to killer drones.

>>510075796
>>510076414
The Switchblade was designed for isolated troops in Afghanistan to have some air support before real air support could arrive. It's not really a cost effective weapon for heavy fighting.

>>510075984
US have entered babylon territory in terms of decomposure. Im not sure trump can jerk the trajectory back onto proper tracks

>>510086233
t. clueless retard

>>510074259 (OP)
>american made
*assembled
I work in the field, all parts are chinese made, the only thing is sometimes the flight controller which is open source anyway

>>510074259 (OP)
>They could only muster 5 drones
We're fucking cooked, aren't we?

>>510090577
AMERICA LITERALLY INVENTED DRONES
DARPA GRANTS TO MIT DECADES AGO

CHANG IS GONNA GET REKT
ALL HIS COMMIE SABOTAGE OF AMERICA IS BEING REVERSED

>>510081243
I literally worked at skydio and none is US made except the software and some plastic parts, they couldn't compete with DJI so they used the nepotism to secure gov contracts to keep the company alive

>>510090577
only if we get into a direct conflict. but yeah i think we'd be on our heels for awhile until we got our shit together. mass produced cheapness is something americans have lost long ago

>>510074493
Thankfully, barrel+ammo is heavy, so we don't have to worry about that much yet.

>>510074970
Things slip through, but our defense sector has rules against using components from or manufacturing things in China.

>>510090781
Thx for insider info

>>510074320
Gayer than two bikers fucking missionary

>>510086169
You might be disappointed. Poles generally like Jews, even subconsiously. If somebody denies official version of Holobolo-event, they act like dogs with rabies for example. If you ever decide to create some serious anti-Jewish global alliance, you better avoid Poles for your own good.

>>510090272
Yeah, what works in assymetric conflict doesnt need to be useful in symmetric one. The US wasted 20 years on hunting wildlings in sandals.

the next great war will be nothing but a rude awakening.
>aircraft carriers/capital ships
waiting to be become obsolete in the opening weeks of the war
>tanks and apcs
already in the dumpster
>infantry doing infantry shit with a shovel
insertnameGOREvideo.webm

artillery was called the god of war and will be the only thing that is relevant as it did before, granted cheap unmanned artillery and expensive hypersonic ballistic artillery is the way forward.
the future will be nothing but cheap and disposable

there wont be capital ships powered by nuclear reactors carrying 70 planes.
they will be replaced by many vessels that can carry 1-3 planes that can take of vertically, cheaper and disposable
all capital ships are on borrewed time
they are just sunk costs loitering the seas

>>510094721
>artillery was called the god of war and will be the only thing that is relevant as it did before

True. Shooting down a 155mm artillery shell is generally harder than a hypersonic missile. Shells are smaller, faster-moving and follow a predictable, ballistic arc, which leaves a short intercept window (few seconds literally). Shells lack radar signatures and are hard to detect. Hypersonic missiles, though faster are also larger (meters long), they must maneuver at least in final stage and emit stronger radar/thermal signatures, making them easier to track with advanced systems like Aegis or THAAD. Artillery shells require precise/rapid-response systems like CRAM which painfully struggle with detection and reaction time against small, non-maneuvering targets.

>>510074259 (OP)
Is he holding the epstein files?

>>510095134
just make them as cheap and disposable as they get an you are winning.
make the surgical strike hypersonic missiles as expensive as they can get and make sure they hit their targets.
but for the rest...
most of the casualties in the ukraine war have all fallen to artillery barrages.
the stuff we see on pol is just the icing on the cake.
drones come with video feeds by their nature and have media appeal because of that but they are not responsible for most casualties in the war.

>>510095617
Ukraine uses drones excessively not because it wants to but because economies of entire "collective West" are incapable to supply it with enough artillery systems and shells.