>>510097103 (OP)
Not even China can. Leftists of this country are dumb as fuck. You have no idea. It's hilarious.

>>510097104
Do your leftists deny logic and reality and just want gibs?
They are incapable of dialogue based in reality in my country. I am normally an empathetic person so I try to understand perspective. But I really don't get them. They live in delulu land think about only today, not the future.

>>510097103 (OP)
He is just coping, seething and dilating just like average leftards. He has no plans for anything, he is basically only creating new taxes and more taxes.

>>510097103 (OP)
>>510097104
the effect isn't small, but sounds viable.

>>510097105
>Do your leftists deny logic and reality and just want gibs?
Exactly. Letfists of this country are basically only muh feelings and envy.

>>510097107
Will Japan fight back?

>>510097109
no idea. I think majority of us considers this merely as the next trend of world economy rather than a conflict.
we don't depend on exporting goods that much anyway (domestic market makes up 80% of total GDP)

>>510097103 (OP)
The alternative is to kiss american ass, stop enforcing Brazilian law on social media and pardon Bolsonaro for an attempted coup
Those were trump's demands

>>510097107
>2011

lel @ using am almost 15 yr chart. what is up with Japs and their inaBILITY TO use the interwebs?

BRAZIL EXPORTS CHINA 2023 : $100B
BRAZIL EXPORTS US 2023 : $23B

>>510097105
Yes they are welfare leeches literally everywhere

Why are Brazilians either corrupt fascists or corrupt communists?

>>510097114
Democracy is in advanced stage on latin america.

>>510097107
>>510097112
You are missing the point. Trump castrated our leftards because we need to import lot of things from USA.

>>510097116
>we need to import lot of things from USA.
like what?

>>510097116
Shh Trump hasn't heard of export taxes yet... What do you export to us

>throwing the second biggest economy in the Americas into China's arms
Based orange man SAVING the white race or something

lol why brasilians love usacock so much?

>>510097104
>Not even China can
Yes it can, exports to the US are just 11% of total Chinese exports. And because China exports vital tech products such as car batteries, finished consumer electronics, and rare earth metals, those exports can easily be redirected to other countries.

>haha yankees our glorious Chinese overlords are better masters
>Hmm now that we're the only people you can sell to you're going to have to put those prices down 50%, not happy about it? You can always sell to Amer- oh right ror

>>510097122
fuck off, wannabe-Yank

>>510097103 (OP)
yes. Malaysia will support Brazil as fellow tropical nigs.

>>510097123
Shut it chink lover

>>510097125
No, I'm a Yank-hater

>>510097114
What do you think Brazil should be doing against 50% tariffs?

>>510097103 (OP)
>>510097107
Its doable, it will hurt but the alternative is let the US tell you what to do, next thing they will tell you is to cut trade with China, later with others. And then you depend even more on the US and now you have to obey them even more and they they will have even more ridiculous demands. Until you loose all sense of sovereignty and they can do whatever they want in your country.

>>510097104
Then why did you elect them

>>510097103 (OP)
Third-worldism is a mental illness.
If not stopped, Lula will turn the whole of Brazil into the Northeast.

>>510097130
What do you think Brazil should do to avoid the 50% US tariffs?

>>510097103 (OP)
no

>>510097103 (OP)
hahahahhahahhahahahahahahhhahahahhahaahhahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahahhahaahhaha
is lula fucking retarded, like clinically stupid or just fucking evil and communist

>>510097104
Living in low IQ country must be painful desu

>>510097110
thats crazy

>>510097133
>Yes daddy Trump! Fuck me harder!
Why are cuckservatives like this?

>>510097116
>we need to import lot of things from USA.


O que os EUA produzem hoje em dia além de filme bosta para gente com QI negativo??

>>510097103 (OP)

What does the US produce besides shitty movies of adults in costumes and shitty wdapons that don't work? Anything can be imported from China, Russia, India, etc.

>>510097103 (OP)
Based.
Yes.
Everyone can.
Time to stop being spoiled.
Time to stop sacrificing our own cultures for globalist marxism.
Return to neighborhoods.
>>510097104
You could. Just not under the leadership of these people kek. It's a funny contradiction.
>>510097105
They are the same everywhere. Culturally destructive agitproppers.

>>510097138
Don't forget Europe. We love Brazil.

>>510097116

Fala uma uma única coisa que a China e a Rússia não produzam

Retardado mental

>>510097136
>"I'm making a stand against facists guys, everyone else will just have to suffer but don't worry about me since I have money"
Every reddit leftist ever

>>510097122
You're right, but the solution is for all of you to decentralize your exports, not to cater to either of our governments.
But then you'd also have to learn to stop blaming one or the other of us for any of your problems.

There's nothing in my house made in the US. Maybe the only thing is the CPU in my laptop (Intel, a US company). I can't think of anything else

>>510097136
Lulu need to touch the wall, Blessing shell not come until

>>510097103 (OP)
He has exposed the big lie of international trade and defense. Look at Europe scrambling to defend one of their own and begging us for help at every turn.

Fact is that the entire world has been sucking at our teat for a century and everyone knows this.

>>510097146
You guys are losing billions of dollars from a lack of tourism alone, from acting like vindictive retards. No one needs you. And you will only learn through humiliation, which is sad.

>>510097103 (OP)
Yep, Canada could too, you just have to accept fling to a Canadian + global - US consumer market will change some things short term and be brave enough to accept & work on the change for the long term benefits. Short term there are some consumer products you’ll pay a little more for getting them from other countries, but long term you’ll produce your own and build new & profitable industries, building and retaining more wealth in Canada. I get that Canada doesn’t want to, but it really needs to do what Brazzil is doing, and just rip off the bandage and cut off trade with the US. You’re our #1 trade partner, and this random shakedown attack on you cannot be tolerated for 1 minute, or ass you’ve seen these fuckers will see you’re swilling to pay their ransom and just continue to play games extorting you forever. This is why you never negotiate with terrorists, you just kill them or ignore them. Canada must do the same to this threat.

>>510097103 (OP)
no, brazilians like electing such retards for some reason
the country is not very serious and should be lead by the military

>>510097142
>making a stand against fascists!

Who gives a fuck about that? Trump tariffed Brazil, the Brazilian government would have to be pathetic cucks to not tariff America back. Where's your sense of honour? Where's your national pride?
>>510097145
Jews need to be eradicated, then more blessings will come to all of Humanity.

>>510097103 (OP)
I'd comsume chinese slop day and night If It meant the destruction of the great satan

>>510097103 (OP)
>>510097104
Brazils exports to the USA is less then 2% of its GDP.

brs are happy selling to chinese, so yeah no problem

>>510097153
Argentina needs to stop selling to the Chinese or having China extend credit lines to Argentina. Milei talked about not doing deals with communists any more, so I don't know why he keeps renewing deals and doing new ones.

>announce tariffs
>revert them
>claim victory
>trumptards eat it all up
also his schtick of announcing tariffs like it's a tv show is incredibly lame, "the apprentice" is not real life

>>510097103 (OP)
Based LVLA. Drumpf will fold.
>>510097104
>>510097105
>>510097116
>>510097133
Keep crying LVLA already folded bitchlon musk a few years ago without any problems.

>>510097149
>should be lead by the military
if you only knew how bad things are pierre

>>510097105
all you need to know is that
leftists = mental

>>510097103 (OP)
>Lula had a limited formal education. He began to learn to read at age ten and left school after the second grade to work
This is my president

>>510097114
Brazil like most countries in the world is a boomercracy run by geriatrics, our boomers lived under the cold war era dictatorship during their prime and formative political years and were either very supportive or very against the regime.
Bolsonaro was member of the military, althought just a captain at the time.
Lula was an union leader.

Some of our right wing politicians had ties with the CIA back in the day, some are the children of our former dictators
Some of our left wing politicians were soviet assets, lived in exile in the east, or were literal communist terrorists.
You see this trend all over post-junta LATAM countries.

>>510097103 (OP)
Yes. At worst it'll make us grow 0,5% less than usual.

However that's just internet posturing for likes on twitter/Instagram/whatever.
In truth they'll scrap some deal buying a few jets from the USA and it'll be ok

>>510097104
You're the stupid one here.
Unable to understand why politicians say stuff on internet and do something entirely different irl.

>>510097103 (OP)
No, as the us would shut off Blacked.com in brazil

>>510097154
why dont you buy some then?

>>510097104
>>510097134
>huemonke sucks up to israel
>still gets dunked on by israeli
KEK

>>510097131
I think the whole government should resign.
In a civilized country, Lula and his friends would have resigned during the Mensalão scandal in 2005.

The economy is already struggling as it is and our government was on track to shut down next year due to lack of money, how can anyone seriously think Brazil has any chance in a trade war?

>>510097114
not Brazilians, but Political Brazilian party.
>>510097130
i wanna know why we are cursed? the order and progress on our flag, i think it´s a curse to never be attained.
we are forever locked into the limbo of any shit here never worked as intended.
Nuking brazil would literaly save brazil.

>>510097128
>Until you loose all sense of sovereignty and they can do whatever they want in your country.
You have already lost that with your current and last, after you stop taking cuba's cock up the ass then you can talk about sovereignty.

US exports are only 1% of our GDP. We don't need USA at all. Cutting ties would make our lives much better because all of their meddling.

>>510098179

USA backed down to Colombia and Mexico.

Brazil is much more stronger than them and much more independent.

fuck trump I want to buy a russian laptop without cia backdoors

>>510097103 (OP)
No we can't. The drunk Nordestino is nightmare

>>510099558
>USA backed down to Colombia and Mexico
Yeah...you're retarded given you also unironically believe Brazil can live without trade with the USA, the Dollar is already 5.6 reais right now, without trade the Dollar will skyrocket and you will feel the pain in the gas pumps

>>510097166
>>510099689
>>510099757
Yes, we should accept the USA as our overlord and open our market to them so that we are able to buy BLACKED subscriptions cheaper

>>510099793
as long as Oil is dealt exclusively on the Dollar we can't embargo the USA retard, grow up.

>>510097103 (OP)
Thanks to the baldfaced corruption and gross negligence of Trump and those whose will he obeys, we're about to find out.

>>510099882
>as long as Oil is dealt exclusively on the Dollar
Maybe we could dedollarize?????

>>510097103 (OP)
this is what everyone in the world should say FUCK TRUMP

>>510099757

US trade is only 1% of our GDP dumbass. Dolar barely moved after Trump declared economic war. This isn't the 2000s anymore. USA couldn't even beat Canada and Mexico.

>>510099929
LMAO

>>510097103 (OP)
Probably, sopa de macaco is produced domestically

>>510099980
I know that you are paid in dollars to shill for the USA, but this isn't an alien concept to the BRICS nations nor the G20

Brazil doesn't need anything from USA.

USA can't replace our rare earth minerals or coffle.

Trump will back down and declare "victory" as he always does. He's a pathetic coward.

Shit like this just makes "rightwing allies" in that country less popular. I suspect political rally for Brazil's left.

>>510097107
And they ALL use US dollars... US dollars that the US can cut off.

>>510099974
>1% of GDP!!!
You're incredibly retarded by simplyfying the American trade with simple numbers, you are ignoring the employment numbers of the industry that export product to the USA and you're also leaving the fact that with no trade with the USA the Dollar value will skyrocket due to the lack of intake of the Dollar into our economy, please seriously kill yourself you are illiterate in terms of economy.
>>510100077
Not even China can buy Oil without using the Dollar, educate yourself on international trade before you spew bullshit.

>>510100237

USA is a decaying empire. They can't do shit. Trump is just an unpopular retard

>>510099793
>Be a miserable Brazilian (probably judeo roots)
> Support commies because muh gibbes and muh gay history teacher said so
> Country economy breaks and no more gibbes
> Fly to another country like a Indian because economy is ruined

>>510100132
>Shit like this just makes "rightwing allies" in that country less popular. I suspect political rally for Brazil's left.

Not only that but the who will be impacted the most are the agrobusiness that fund right-wing politicians. Political bloodbath for the right in the next year elections

>>510100326
When the Dollar is 10 Reais you will be singing a different tune when you see how it'll even affect the food that you eat everyday

Bolsonarotrannies should an hero tbqh

>>510100237
>Not even China can buy Oil without using the Dollar, educate yourself on international trade before you spew bullshit.
It uses other currencies to negotiate with Russia and Iran, you fucking retard

>>510100446

When Trump backs down as always and Lula reaches 60% approval, you'll be screaming about a huge "Trump victory" while nobody listens.

The reduced exports from Brazil isn't the problem. It's going to be the currency devaluation, which will lead into further inflation and requires further interest rate increases. Can Brazil afford having a weak currency? If they have to import oil, they are screwed.

>>510100446

Trump couldn't hold tariffs against fucking Mexico and Colombia retard.

>>510100568
>If they have to import oil, they are screwed.

We don't. We export oil

>>510100568
We are self sufficient in oil since the 2000s, also there is Venezuela right on the corner

>>510100568
>It's going to be the currency devaluation

Right now it's the dolar that is devaluating

Trump literally made Lula a staunch nationalist that is defending the interest of the nation against imperialism

He literally went to a rally today with a "Brazil for Brazilians" cap

Right wingers are traitors to the nation

>>510100568
>which will lead into further inflation and requires further interest rate increases

Trump couldn't hold tariffs against Mexico and Colombia because inflations and the fact the rate cut is never coming. Brazil impact is much stronger lol.

Trump is a weak bitch, he will back down as always.

>>510100568
National price for gas is based on the Dollar so these illiterate monkeys will learn a hard lesson if their criminal in charge actually decides to embargo the USA

>>510100807

Chad

>>510100857

You retards were saying the same about Mexico and Colombia and Trump BACKED DOWN

LMAO

>>510100568
they can just invade venezuela. if brasil wants to be a regional power then they need to do what any proper power does and invade a smaller, weaker country to assert dominance

>>510097103 (OP)
It would be painful, but probably, yeah.
Brazil is one of the few countries that import more than export to USA, and good part of Brazilian exports are kind that can be exported elsewhere.

>>510100857
If the price is tied to international market, which Lula could simply stop this parity by decree as we are a global producer of oil

>>510100998

We don't need to. Venezuela is our friend and we trade with fair prices.

>>510100807
>>510100913
>>510100993
>>510101016
You are worshiping a politician that since he got in charge the price of food has increased more than it has during the pandemic, the Dollar went to 6 Reais, national debt has increased, the INSS scandal happened, taxed online purchases above 50 Dollars and has also increased government tax in all sectors, please kill yourselves.

>>510101191

Bolsonaro is going to jail and he's gonna get raped. Cry harder

>>510101346
I hope Bozo and Lulu both go to jail actually
>NOOO YOU CAN ONLY BE ON TWO SIDES!!
thankfully I'm not retarded like you.

>>510101191
Bolsonaro has never committed any corruption scandal nor has betrayed the interests of the nation, he obviously knows that Trump has the best interests of Brazil in mind when taxing our whole economy in 50%, the poverty and gdp loss that comes with it, is good for Brazil!

>>510100807
That's just how all right wings are in South America

>>510097103 (OP)
TACO (trump always chickens out)

>>510101445
See >>510101443 and grow up from your binary way of viewing politics, if it is in your mental capacity of comprehending such concepts.

>>510101191
>the Dollar went to 6 Reais

Bolsonaro received dolar a 3 reais and delivered 5

Lula received on 5 and it's still 5

> national debt has increased

fake. Bolsonaro bankrupted the country

> the INSS scandal happened

The fraud started during Bolsonaro government, connected to Ciro Nogueira, Bolsonaro's right handed man.

>>510101554
>BUT BOZO
you are a mindbroken slave

>>510101554
You know, the mess in the economy during his government can be greatly explained through COVID hysteria, which you people pushed.
INSS fraud benefited unions tied to leftist parties.

>>510101941
Bozo was a retard that pushed many things that leftists wanted regardless of covid response, I hope both him and Lulu rots in jail for the rest of their lives for their crimes against the people.

>>510097116
What do you import from the USA? Books on how to become a tranny written by Dr Nosenstein?

>>510101941
>You know, the mess in the economy during his government can be greatly explained through COVID hysteria, which you people pushed.

He destroyed the economy and killed hundreds of thousands of people. Couldn't do shit

Brazil doesn't need to import a single thing from the USA. We pirate most of their shit anyway.

In USA even a threat of slight more expensive coffee would tank Trump's approval ratings and make him back down

>>510102196
everything, we dont have industry. we just export b a s e d beans and iron ore. imagine something manufactured besides a shoe or a chinese car. we dont have it.

>>510097103 (OP)
They can trade with venezuela

>>510102531

We do have industry you disgratefull traitor.

>>510102054
I don't care about either of them. Imagine being a vooter.
>>510102308
He returned the administration with a clean balance. We couldn't implement investments aimed at growth because you "people" chose to close the world economy for a 2% mortality rate flu.
He was pretty retarded and ended up isolated, which does not mean the economy tanking is his fault. Circumstances were different. Lule can't make this country grow 3% because he is a fraud. He should've been smarter 20 years ago, but he is not. Idiots voted for him because they thought it would be a repetition of his previous administrations, which is of course never going to happen because circumstances are not the same.

>>510102531
You can import more industrial stuff from EU and China (you already do).
And sell more coffee, fruits and oil that you used to sell to the USA.

>>510097103 (OP)
>Survive

A low bar even for a 2nd world country like Brazil.

>>510097144
Sure maybe inside
But outside, you have tons of browns
That meloni girl sure wants to black italy

>>510102724
We are a deindustrialized country and we can't come up with demographics to deindustrialized again. Average IQ is 89, which means we won't adapt to the new tech age well, there will be a huge competence crisis and most people are investing their money in worthless degrees.
We're fucked.

>>510097103 (OP)
Brazilians in the government can. The ones outside can't.

>>510102952
Reindustrialize*

>>510097103 (OP)
well they cant extract oil without US help, and embraer cant make jets without US engines. But to be fair lula just said survive

Of course we can, but that's beside the point. There's not a single brain cell between lula and trump

>>510097103 (OP)
Lmao, we're fucked.

>>510102952
>We are a deindustrialized country
You are more industrialized than at any other point in history, yet you cant keep that industry without key US imports

>>510102768
>He returned the administration with a clean balance.

No, he didn't. He left huge debts and without money to even pay federal employees

>>510102987
Socialists can't do that

>>510097103 (OP)
EVERYONE can live without the dollar. But those who try get annihilated due to a holy ear against whatever.

>>510097116
>I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT MY IPHONES TRUMP-SAMA I KNEEL
vira-lata

>>510097103 (OP)
They will, so yes.

>>510097104
>wanting national independence and national self reliance is leftist and bad!
The right has gone full mask off with this globalism shit. Fuck you (literal) faggots, we are all going back to national and cooperation with friendly neighbors, fuck your globalist liberal far right bullshit.

>>510097103 (OP)
You can’t even import car parts there. Car bros have to make do with what’s there. Brazil has been isolated for awhile

>>510097103 (OP)
They can just double trade with China.

Do not give ZOGbots an inch.

>>510103957
watched a boomer on tv saying who wants chinese, or argentinian currency? people want to trade in dollar and Im a schizo so I saw gold hoover over them making them ridiculous. what people dont know is trump threatens the globalists with industrializing the world without having the usa being the center of everything, gets some shadowy concessions for some pedophile friends and continues his dinasty. thats all there is to it nothing ever happens.

>>510104287
America has stopped producing a lot of things but the dollar is still the world currency. America is like a big bank and no one wants to make a new bank from scratch. Sadly, Trump and Netanyahu decided that they will crash the world economy to get their way.

>>510097103 (OP)
The united states doesn't export much, its mostly just guns (which the Brazilians have plenty of already). I think Brazil will be fine.

It would be easier to just stop prosecuting Bolsanario for fake crimes.

>>510104414
>nobody wants to make a bank
I remember when Ghaddafi did, and they publicly executed him.

>>510097103 (OP)
lol, everyone else already is

>>510097104
Fascist here. Yes we can

>>510097130
>Third-worldism is a mental illness
Brazil is literally a third world country. What kind of fantasy world do you live in?

>>510104539
Gaddafi had a lot of oil and gold and was kinda nutty. He wanted to make a bank for Africa specifically, which could have worked or at least supported a lot of anti-Western leaders.

>>510097103 (OP)
No. Much like canada, brazil is dependent upon the vast economic power of the US.

>>510097103 (OP)
china can easily step in and fill those shoes
in fact it already has

>>510104622
And third-worldism is the ideology that's proud of that. Mental illness. Like being proud of having low IQ.

>>510100807
based

>>510099793
>Yes, we should accept the USA as our overlord
Why is having Brasília as our overlord superior to having the USA?
What exactly makes Brasília better? Why should the average person from São Paulo or Mato Grosso prefer to be lead by Brasília than by the USA?
What is even the argument here?
Do you have any, or it just feels and memes?

>>510097104
Russia survives no problem.

>>510104501
It would be easier to just be more focused on stopping actual American citizens from being prosecuted for fake and BS crimes by American governments, instead of being focused on Brazil prosecuting a Brazilian individual, right?

>>510097162
Tu vai morrer, petralha. Tu e a tia laia não passam de 2027. Tem uma corda com o nome do Moraes aqui. A guerra civil e intervenção americana vêm. Deus é Fiel!

>>510103828
Obvious wumao shill is obvious.

>>510103957
The CCP will be toppled before the end of Trump's second term. It's over for you, Marxist scum!

>>510104554
A Reação Nacional não consegue nem pagar a conta de luz, rapá. Lugar de fascista é na vala. O Brasil é de Jesus!

I hope Brazil rots and suffers because everyone here, including me, deserves it.
I hate this place so fucking much.

>>510097103 (OP)
Yup.

This is Trump tryna shut off the new jeet outsourcing. Tech companies are now going to brazil instead of india for their outsourcing.

>>510097110
What about waifu exports, hiroshima bro?

>>510097107
>10%
nothingburger

>>510097104
>not even china
Uhm they've been doing it for a few months already.

>>510110448
Qual jesus? O meu ou o teu, cumpadi?