Thread 510101819

Can /pol/ explain to me, a non american why the confederates were "bad" or any worse than the founding fathers of america?
> in 1776 slave owning, traitorous aristocrats secede from their home nation and decide to create their own nation
>this is seen as good, is celebrated, and is seen as a truimph for freedom and democracy
>in 1861 slave owning, traitorous aristocrats secede from their home nation and decide to create their own nation
>this is seen as the worst thing ever
Why is it like this? I still haven't received a coherent explanation as to why slave owning aristocrats fighting against their mother country is good in one scenario but bad in another
>inb4 the american revolutionaries fought for freedom
the american whigs fought against their government because they weren't allowed to genocide red indians and because catholics in quebec were given equal rights. They were whigs of the 18th century not the hippy dippy liberals that post 1960 america has tried to portray them as. the confederates were just continuing on with that radical whig tradition of self governance
>y-you're a southerner
see flag

>b-but the founding fathers didn't fight for slavery
YES THEY DID YOU SPASTIC
Lord Dunmore's proclamation that enslaved blacks who fought for britain would be freed is what led a huge number of southerners to fight for the revolutionary cause
Ergo the american revolutionaries of 1776 fought for slavery
And the americans also fought to expand past the appalachians, ensuring the racial genocide of the red man.
Why is slavery worse than manifest destiny genocide? I see nothing wrong with both, by the way. Slavery and manifest destiny were based

>>510101819 (OP)
>the american whigs fought against their government because they weren't allowed to genocide red indians and because catholics in quebec were given equal rights. They were whigs of the 18th century not the hippy dippy liberals that post 1960 america has tried to portray them as. the confederates were just continuing on with that radical whig tradition of self governance

Could you recommend some reading material on this topic?

>>510101819 (OP)
Because of this meme and you being a retarded chink

>>510102277
>Could you recommend some reading material on this topic?
Bernard bailyn's books
albions seed

>>510102390
The Klan were one of the greatest organisations ever known
>"The white men were roused by a mere instinct of self-preservation.....until at last there had sprung into existence a great Ku Klux Klan, a veritable empire of the South, to protect the southern country"

>>510101819 (OP)
>Can /pol/ explain to me, a non american why the confederates were "bad" or any worse than the founding fathers of america?
Continentalchads won, Dixiefags lost. Simple as.

>>510101819 (OP)
It started due to state rights. The south felt like they were being invaded. The war started out with the north losing bad. The cuck Lincoln needed a draft but knew the cuck northern men would never stand for it so he changed the reason to freeing the slaves. Nigger loving northerners love black cock so they fell right in line.
Do you really think a bunch of poor southern people owned slaves?
Read a book you rotton tooth brit.