Thread 510108391

Daily reminder black people invented jazz, the most important new genre of music in centuries, rivaling classical music and operas.

>>510108391 (OP)
Techno and House, also made by Black Americans are far better genres.

>>510108391 (OP)
cool. if we allow niggers to keep jazz, can we send them back to africa?
i’ll make that concession.

No one owns any genre subhuman freak

Jazz is jewish if you were going by that merit fyi

>>510108391 (OP)
Classical devolved into big band which devolved onto jazz. It's like if niggers moved into La Louvre, sprayed the walls in graffiti, shat over the furniture and then convinced pajeets that they created a beautiful Palace

>>510108391 (OP)
Everything is black washed

>here is trash nobody cares about you must love the nigger now!
Nope

Jelly Roll Morton specifically cites this as the origin of jazz' rythm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5L1UAGow3k
The improvisational structure is straight out of latin pregones.

>>510108391 (OP)
Not music.

>>510108391 (OP)
Like always blacks started it and then whites picked it up turned it into something amazing.

>>510109432
Blacks didn't start it at all, just read a tiny bit of history. They got their sense of harmony and rhyme from Anglos.

The single most important musician on Kind of Blue is by far the pianist Bill Evans, who was white.

>>510108391 (OP)
Niggers invented making random, meaningless noises.

>>510109955
Western harmonic theory was quickly adopted by pretty much the entire planet because of how incredibly sound and well thought out it was. It explained basically everything.

>>510108391 (OP)
You forgot to mention that it's a purely American art-form, idiot OP

>>510111746
hahaha the cope is great in this one...Here try some of my peeps other great music

I'm not really into jazz but this album is pretty cool.
>Rivaling classical and operas
You sound very foolish.

>>510108391 (OP)
Otis redding is cool

>>510112248
If blacks are so good at music why are you coping about whites making music?

>>510112364
Fun fact, the whistling at the end of '(Sittin’ on) The Dock of the Bay' wasn't intended to be in the song, it was just Otis randomly whistling at the end of a take. The producers just had enough sense to leave it in because it sounded good. There's all sorts of cool stories like that if you read up on Motown/Stax. James Jamerson basically built the label with his bass playing but wasn't given a shred of the credit he deserved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imsB543zqSM

One of the greatest songs of the 20th century. It's like the bassist is playing a duet with Stevie.

>>510108391 (OP)
Friendly reminder Japan latched onto it and has been producing a large quantity of modern artists that aren't making Starbucks jazz albums.

>>510112248
A tribe playing drums in the jungle is not really making music. Their drums are not meant for aesthetic enjoyment, but for performing a ritual. It's supposed to be like an ominous, scary introduction to the presence of a guiding spirit. Those guys weren't competing against each other for who has the best drum fills and coolest syncopated rhythms. The sound in itself was not supposed to be enjoyed, but to put you in a trance, to conjure up the forces of chaos and fate.

>>510112777
checked, so did Europe. And Africa (particularly South Africa), South America.
Jazz has had a profound global influence, it's a 'genre' that can no longer be compartmentalized or neatly defined.

>>510108391 (OP)
I like Coltrane way better. Top 5 niggers imo

>>510108391 (OP)
., , , ,....

>>510111746
based

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>>510112248
>dey wuz all black
When you actually dig deeper you find blacks and whites both contributed to nearly all the genres blacks claim as their own. There were many fantastic black jazz artists though undeniably, if you cannot appreciate Coleman Hawkins Body and Soul because he's black then i'm afraid you're not white.
https://youtu.be/zUFg6HvljDE

>>510108391 (OP)
jazz sucks go back to mu

>>510112777
any recs

>>510114287
Kys nigger lover. Jazz isn't music. Also whites gave blacks everything they learned to come up with blues, so they didn't "invent" that either.

Yeah, all the big band brass instruments they used weren't made by them either. Stop the lies. Blacks invented shit regarding music. The stuff they did come up with is gobbledygook garbage like rap.

>>510115208
Rap was fine when there was meaning behind it. It's only since the 90s ended that it turned into low grade niggers spewing garbage about money, drugs, women, and their "crew" with no real substance to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxKleuLBRcw

>>510108670
"CH 47. jewish jazz becomes our national music."

I started hitting "not interested, do not recommend channel" on youtube any time I see a black person. I'm so tired of niggers. Same with jews and Indians.

>>510108391 (OP)
Jazz was created by a bunch of classical musicians playing in clubs at night because they wanted to play outside of the "rules", It was a mix of races, but mostly white, just go look at the pictures.

>>510115208
Did you even read my post? Seems like you need to take your meds.

>>510108391 (OP)
quick reminder that OP's negro was an overt anti-White POS

>>510112248
Where’s metal

>>510118119
It exists outside of history. It creates it's own reality.

>>510112248
Is this what retards actually believe?

jazz mostly sucks
very few of them even wrote songs, they just did their takes of already established songs
most of the blacks were also heavily mixed creoles

>>510117812
>memeflag
Miles was famous for cussing out everyone, but he was also known for saying he didn't care what color the musicians in his groups were.
He never said what rando X poster claimed either

Anybody got that "Jigaboo Jackson" screenie?

>>510108391 (OP)
Miles Davis filters me so hard it's not even funny.
>>510108489
Yeah Detroit and Chicago shit still sounds fresh after all this years.

>>510108391 (OP)
>Daily reminder black people invented jazz
invented my ass
back then hiring musicians became expensive so they hired cheap retards instead
jazz is not different from punk (because they just played whatever) well except that jazz music only existed for the money meaning that it was a soulless cashgrab since its conception

the most important jazz hits? written by jews btw

>>510111881
>western
european, you silly brit

>>510108391 (OP)
>Whites invent music theory and recording technology and all the instruments
>niggers get all the credit
Something seems off

>>510108489
>Techno and House, also made by Black
are you absolutely retarded?

>>510108391 (OP)
> rivaling classical music and operas
This is what niggers really believe.

>>510108391 (OP)
Bix Biederbecke was before Louis Armstrong.

>>510108391 (OP)
Not gonna lie, black people created some great music. They should stick with entertainment

>>510121714
He’s technically right. Blacks made “progressive” and house music in Detroit and Chicago, which was the basis for techno.

Disgusting nigger apologists itt
>You know, I hate niggers but dey wuz ALL da musik

>>510112264
No shit it's good. Jazz is American. It was created by blacks who couldn't get a whole band to play in their small clubs, then made better by whites who COULD sell out big venues. Music is music though. Just like the dumbest niggers can be insanely talented athletes, some of them cotton to instruments with an uncanny ability. Jazz triads were (re)invented by American negros and there's no need to try and take that away from them.

It's ok to appreciate things from other cultures. The nips do it all the time. It doesn't mean you want to assimilate or anything.

t. Jazz hound/funk player who was in several bands and wrote a lot of originals.

>>510112248
Music started when the Jews monetized it. Your chart is meaningless.

>>510108391 (OP)
isnt jazz heavily inspired by classical

also, why is there not a single notable black composer

>>510122980
Pop music is Jewish, by default.

Something weird is tunings. A was traditionally tuned at 432 hz, however... classical music in 432hz can be extremely moving. Joseph Grobbles of all people had the idea that foreign made operas and pieces should be played in 440hz while only German operas tuned in 432 so the volk would think German music was superior.

The Jews picked up on this and...many, many hits (that would otherwise be kinda dull) were recorded in 432 and 417hz A. (417 stimulates the root chakra and makes young girls wet).

So, yes, the popular stuff is jewish, but music itself is real.

>>510108391 (OP)
daily remember that jazz music is still horribly painful to listen to for anyone with functioning ears

>>510115816
>Rap was fine
No, it wasn't.
>>510117195
>Did you even read my post?
>There were many fantastic black jazz artists
Shut the fuck up you stupid kike.

>>510122205
are we ignoring kraftwerk, jean michel-jarre and industrial/synthpop artists that predate the black detroitians and the black chicagites?
all blacks did was giving djs a dumbed down version so that they could play tracks flawlessly
>house
it's fucking post-disco

>>510122675
>Jazz is American. It was created by blacks
>funk player
kek, look at this wigger

>>510108391 (OP)
https://youtu.be/h4X3rAg6lhY

>>510122675
You could simply stop at is American. It was developed by and between both blacks and whites. For our 250th, the history of jazz would be a great example of how America can work between races to create something unique, remarkable, and timeless. Blacks and whites could get along better if we based our affiliations on common love of culture lile music and film and why we love them, instead of why we are angry and don't like things based on race. Anyway, Jazz is American.

>>510122675
>The nips do it all the time
isn't kpop biggest hits just disco? talk about cultural appropiation lolololol
enjoy your hiphop niggas

A jew by the name of Arnold Schoenberg invented jazz.

Jazz is just random chord progressions and nonsensical harmonies sequenced to fall under the guise of "hyper-complexity", which normies fall for every time of course. It's literally just nigger monkeys bashing random keys.

>>510125688
Another example would be hip-hop: it uses a lot of music made and produced by whites using music technology made by whites but reinterpreting and overlaying spoken rhyming couplets to create a variety of narrative formed a new American genre: rap. Everyone, black or white, knows at least some Steely Dan because of rap. Funny, that.

>>510108391 (OP)
>>510108489
obvious d/c thread filled with bullshit.
but Miles Davis was great

>>510124900
I've got blond haired and blue eyes, negro. I can't help it I've got "soul". It is what it is.
>>510125688
Yes but...this is pol. I was explaining things for anyone interested. I'm not just gonna make blanket style NPR statements. It's just music. Enjoy or not. I'm not trying to solve problems lol.

>>510125688
Classical music was cancelled by the Jews after WW2 along with most White art and replaced by degenerate abstract art, and degenerate music. Jazz was part of the "slow boil" that deleted spiritual art like Classical music, which leads to Rock and Roll, then Rap, then whatever passes for "music" these days, which is all made by producers behind a computer screen instead of actual musicians playing instruments.

>>510126023
>new American genre: rap
isn't rap a form of church lyricism? the earliest rap is religious related (God's gonna cut you down to size)

>>510108391 (OP)
>niggers invented jazz
They can keep it

>>510126281
why are you even on this site?
you fags that can't help yourself but consume jewish/nigger shit are the coalburners of culture

>>510108391 (OP)
black people have made incredible contributions to music, that is one thing I will give them. That is why segregation is the best bet. Still have the in the country and communicate, but not have them living around you causing trouble. I think America probably owes american black people some sort of space.

Frame it as a positive for the black community (which it is)

>>510125783
Not only do you lack any appreciation for music, but you obviously have no pattern recognition.

Why are you even posting in a thread so completely outside your ken?

>>510108391 (OP)
Even if this is true at best you invented something when using white instruments. The absolute best peak outcome of this argument is you 50% invented something.

Lmao

>>510126709
I've been here since /b/ you simple fuck.
I can't help it if you're only capable of classifying everything into 2 columns and got stuck on the Jewish racial division plot.

I'm just not as stupid as you. Deal with it, faggot.

>>510126370
I mean, I would argue Gospel is also a unique American genre, a combination of traditional spiritual and folk in an American context of southern baptism. Music brings all people together and often the best out of us for this reason. Music is the only real magic in the world. It's just carefully arranged air we experience and make as humans. We liked it so much we did all we could to reproduce and create it and listen to it again and again. Anyway, I ramble.

>>510126727
>but you obviously have no pattern recognition.
retard, that anon is correct
jazz just like punk and industrial was more about playing by the feeling than playing by the book
it's just jazz really started as cheap music

>>510108391 (OP)
Jazz wasn't invented, it was synthesized. Uncultured nigger.

>>510127014
What instrument do you play again? Do you understand basic music theory...at all?


I think I'm responding to bots and/or just retards now. I should probably stop lol.

>>510108391 (OP)
>, the most important new genre of music in centuries, rivaling classical music and operas
>We wuz muzic
Cope

>>510108391 (OP)
>black people invented jazz
Actually intrinsically false.
The first group to call their music jazz, and the first group to actually put out a commercial jazz recording, were White

>b-b-but
Everybody claiming to be jazz before them was a ragtime musician and only claimed to be jazz after it was coined.

The frontman of the New Dixieland Jazz Band learned to play from a New Orleans Marching band led by a white guy.

>>510108836
/thread
biggest jazz icon is a white man, Frank Sinatra.

Jazz is just sonic hedonism. It’s just musical gooning.

>>510108391 (OP)
jazz niggers will tell you that jazz is just classical and thats 100% right

>>510127228
I've always liked this arrangement of Blackbird.
https://youtu.be/MyVuFCxj1no?t=57

>>510127010
>I mean, I would argue Gospel is also a unique American genre, a combination of traditional spiritual and folk in an American context of southern baptism
uh, that makes sense but i'm not entirely sure if gospel is unique to americans
surely someone was directing a gregorian chant but they were short of time so they made it quick. but alas this is merely a rambling
>>510127228
>What instrument do you play again
anything is an instrument, silly
your music theory is now used to make plastic music on the radio and spotify. it deserves to be mocked

>>510108391 (OP)
You niggers don't even know

>>510126975
>easily upset when confronted with truth
>assumes bullshit to cope
yeah, you're a nigger at heart

>>510108391 (OP)
>>510127372
This enrages the nigger because niggers actually can't refute it either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WojNaU4-kI

>>510127592
>muh coltrane changes
how to sound like every modern jazz artist jew

>>510127534
It's a shitty recording but the breaks are good and it's well rehearsed.

>>510108391 (OP)
Jazz is trash and will never rival pieces like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrmaZGjWg1I

>>510108489
Techno is German you idiot. Kraftwerk invented it.

>>510108391 (OP)
White people invented the instruments they are using to make the sounds.

>>510127726
Eat shit bitch. I'm merely posting the other best Jazz albums

>>510127556
No, anything is an instrument to an artist you worthless heeb.

>>510127685
You've said nothing at all to counter my arguments.

You're obviously a bot or just a very low IQ individual. Post a screenshot with Captcha on your next post and prove me wrong please.

>>510128056
I still don't know why they keep insisting on the Detroit Sound influencing the rave/electronic scenes. that shit has a short life
at this point new order, depeche mode and fucking cabaret voltaire had more influence on the dance scene

>>510128225
>no, anything is an instrument to an artist you worthless heeb
attacking the person instead of argument? how desperate
either way, your concession is accepted

>>510128288
Cultural appropriation. Blacks have no culture so they try to steal white culture.
Well what’s this butt-shaking called again? They invented that lol.

Correct.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xrZ-t_bnfck

>>510128225
>You've said nothing at all to counter my arguments.
i don't "debate" at your disposal, like cringelord lefty fags
if you say something of worth, without being bitchmade, then i might contribute, but instead you act like a coalburning fag
>YOU'VE OFFERED NO VALID REFUTE TO MUH VALID CLAIMS
lmao kys

>>510108391 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH1YkBCjh7s&list=RDgH1YkBCjh7s&start_radio=1

>>510108391 (OP)
Jazz disgusts me just as much as the niggers that created it.

>>510108391 (OP)

Yeah, but how many people are going around and advertising that they're listening to miles davis? Black pepo may have invented one of the most enjoyable genres of music ever invented, but it's also the least listened genre of music.

Go black people.

>>510112248
This is a brown nigger.
He is coping hard because IN REALITY niggers invented NOTHING .
And all music has been invented by whites.

>nigger brain is too small for any music other than tum-tum

You faggots keep posting the same retarded anti-white crap I am thinking you gotta be Eglin browns.
I.e. you have no idea about music and was just hired to dump anti-white propaganda.
>t. you are retarded

>>510127995
I usually prefer live but yeah it's poorly recorded. Here's the studio version:
https://youtu.be/rcUztmd7GQQ
It's one of the few times an interpretation is better than the original, especially the piano breaks.

>>510108391 (OP)
> rivaling classical music and operas.
Not even close, but jazz is nice.

>>510128675
>>510128814

So you both suck and are simply here at the behest of kikes to perpetuate racial division?

I think we got it by now kek.

I think it's great but did whites at the time view it as "nigger music" the same way whites today view black music

>>510129244
It's not bad fren. I'm not gonna tell you it's great, and I wouldn't expect another musician to give me accolades with that either. It's solid playing. Very solid. However, you could do more; something original, even if it seems like it sucks, just try something; it's worth a shot. There's talent there. Tap into it. Find any old chord progression and rock out for a bit... Then try another.
Just create something brother. That's literally the crux of music/art. Create something beautiful that others can appreciate.

I dont know what that is

when in doubt, try this
CLINICAL TEST QUESTION
>are you descended from south asian subcontinental ancestry?
any answer longer than "no" means yes
not answering means yes
lying means yes