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Anonymous (ID: ZWfMSwyC) No.510141818 >>510141898 >>510142384 >>510144385 >>510144525 >>510144666 >>510144667 >>510144754 >>510145255 >>510147422 >>510149005 >>510149463 >>510153324 >>510153544 >>510154197 >>510155076 >>510157385 >>510157442 >>510157604 >>510157996 >>510158337 >>510159724 >>510159882
The black race won. We're all black as our universe is inside a black hole.
Anonymous (ID: fVCHteT0) United States No.510141898 >>510142293 >>510142462 >>510144525 >>510144527 >>510144880 >>510144922 >>510153142 >>510153811
>>510141818 (OP)
Hasn't this theory been tossed around for years?
Anonymous (ID: LPzWjmpW) United States No.510142156
fuck niggers
Anonymous (ID: 5CxpOIcB) Ukraine No.510142293 >>510142462 >>510144525 >>510149624 >>510157524
>>510141898
Wouldn't that clash with the apparent homogeneity of distribution of various formations? Also we'd be observing CMB disparities I think.
Anonymous (ID: NMNcWlDb) No.510142384 >>510142505
>>510141818 (OP)
that makes no sense
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510142462 >>510143145 >>510147562 >>510149216
>>510141898
Yeah. Now there is some (small) evidence for it due to disparity in the rotation of galaxies. It should be 50/50 clockwise vs. counterclockwise, but it's not and that may be taken as evidence that the universe itself is rotating.
>>510142293
Why?
Anonymous (ID: 53wryf91) Australia No.510142505 >>510142995
We are one under the black sun.

>>510142384
Our reality is 2 dimensional. The human brain adds the space. There is no such thing as space or time. All time exists at the same time. For some bizarre reason our consciousness is only able to view things as moving forward when in reality causality doesnt exist.

That's the summary.
Anonymous (ID: 53wryf91) Australia No.510142995 >>510143951 >>510144233 >>510155294
>>510142505
I think this also calls into question free will but others (the leading scientists) believe we could have free will depending on our quantum state OR our consciousness itself may be the result of quantum phenomenon but thats too advanced for me.
Anonymous (ID: 5CxpOIcB) Ukraine No.510143145 >>510143929 >>510143951 >>510144472 >>510157524
>>510142462
Depending on the inflow and how it redistributes at event horizon, there would've been either higher densities closer to the centre or closer to the surface. Over the 13 billion years gravity would have either made the centre more densely packed or the "edges" clump up into groups at the cost of interior.
Similarly, CMB would be highly localised at the "moment" when whatever (collapse? Makes matters worse really) created the bubble. In fact the mechanism of CMB being there at all in this case is not obvious to me.
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510143929 >>510144296 >>510144472
>>510143145
>there would've been either higher densities closer to the centre or closer to the surface
The center of what? If the universe is a black hole, the entire universe is the center of the anterior black hole.
>CMB would be highly localised at the "moment" when whatever (collapse? Makes matters worse really) created the bubble
The answer to this is the same as the above. There is no localization in a singularity.
>the mechanism of CMB being there at all in this case is not obvious to me
It would exist for the same reason it's understood to exist in normal cosmological models: UV radiation emitted during the pre-ionization epoch when the universe was an opaque neon sign, but has since been redshifted to the microwave spectrum.
Anonymous (ID: nsD3UiA2) Argentina No.510143951 >>510144192 >>510144407 >>510144579 >>510144854 >>510156838 >>510158532
>>510142995
You don’t have a quantum state you're a fully decohered classical system

>>510143145
I agree with you and I would say another argument is that we don’t detect any noticeable instream of matter, if anything the idea that the total amount of mass energy in the universe is constant is a pretty widely accepted fact but I would imagine any black hole universe would see a constant influx of it
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510144192 >>510144480
>>510143951
>we don’t detect any noticeable instream of matter
How would we? Such an instream would exist beyond the edge of the visible universe. Also, one could say that the expansion of the universe itself is the EFFECT of such an instreaming of matter from an anterior universe.
Anonymous (ID: OvkyV4I/) United States No.510144233 >>510144468
>>510142995
Causality exists because work exists, time has such great angular momentum that appears to follow one direction, but if you go to the very submicroscopuc level, the wavefunction shows us that a system can exist in multiple states independent of the time axis.
Anonymous (ID: nsD3UiA2) Argentina No.510144296 >>510144468 >>510144468 >>510149385 >>510150800
>>510143929
But the interior of a black hole is the space between the singularity and the event horizon. He’s right that the mere inclusion of a singularity would break isotropy I think.
As far as CMB you need recombination for it but the currently understood mechanics of a black hole don’t allow for recombination at all.
Anonymous (ID: fml3jSel) United States No.510144385
>>510141818 (OP)
no we're ohh grid of the cosmic web in the void get fucked faggot we got a great spawn point hidden away
Anonymous (ID: nNIqB9F+) United States No.510144407
>>510143951
>reddit tier atheism and pseudo-science in the year 2025

kill yourself
Anonymous (ID: 2Qpga+w2) United States No.510144412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-5KjFJxnw4

THERE ARE 8 BILLION TALES IN THE NAKED UNIVERSE. THIS IS JUST ONE OF THEM.

BUT

THEY ALL HAVE. BLACK. HOLES.
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510144468 >>510144691
>>510144233
>Causality exists because work exists
This is circular.
>>510144296
I don't see that at all. That implies that a singularity collapsed from one side, instead of from all sides at once.
>>510144296
>As far as CMB you need recombination for it
No, you need recombination for the universe to become transparent such that you can see it. The CMB itself was produced before recombination and stopped once it happened.
Anonymous (ID: OlViWB7k) No.510144472
>>510143145
>>510143929
Science doesn't exist you pseuds. Learn what spirituality is.
Anonymous (ID: nsD3UiA2) Argentina No.510144480 >>510144539
>>510144192
As long as mass-energy is entering the universe you’d have to detect it somehow, the idea that it’s constant throughout its entire history is a pretty widely accepted fact. I’m not saying I can confirm it beyond any doubt but you're making a pretty bold claim by saying the amount of mass and energy is not constant
Anonymous (ID: kY8kHBK7) United States No.510144525
>>510142293
>>510141898
>>510141818 (OP)
Our solar system is an atom
Earth is an electron

We are falling and shrinking into a black hole and landed on an electron of a single atom
Anonymous (ID: /l18NiqT) United States No.510144527
>>510141898
Yes, and it’s not a theory. It’s pop- science hogwash that retards like Neil Degrasse Tyson perpetuate for clicks
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510144539
>>510144480
>As long as mass-energy is entering the universe you’d have to detect it somehow,
Not if it's entering beyond the edge of the visible universe, which it would inherent be if we are inside a black hole.
Anonymous (ID: 5CxpOIcB) Ukraine No.510144579 >>510144738 >>510144840 >>510156838
>>510143951
Any "recent" inflow would be at least 93 billion ly away. We would only be able to detect anomalous appearance of matter or unexplainable high density distributed abnormally relatively shortly followed by complete absence of radiation until a certain point in "time", which might be who knows how far ahead. All due to apparent "expansion of space", which to be fair is not too dissimilar to some theorised behaviour at or beyond what we see as event horizons.
>but I would imagine any black hole universe would see a constant influx of it
Only if there is at least one source nearby still. And again, an observer would need to either be close enough or have the means to receive the data quickly despite being billions of ly away.
Anonymous (ID: crmyRUY1) United States No.510144666
>>510141818 (OP)
“Science” is so fucking stupid
Anonymous (ID: pFhiJ3F5) United States No.510144667
You're attempting to describe how cosmic theory can be satirical.

Rick and Morty sort of did this at a mainstream level, "it seems like slavery with extra steps"

>>510141818 (OP)
>This makes me laugh so hard for so many reasons.
>Completely failing to describe any scientific theory, completely unable to describe any construct in which one idea comfortable describes how it functions in conjunction to another.
>Sudden vacuum decay still exists as a universe ender
I know you have better screwballs somewhere this isn't the good existential stuff.
Anonymous (ID: nsD3UiA2) Argentina No.510144691 >>510144932 >>510144932 >>510145187
>>510144468
>I don't see that at all. That implies that a singularity collapsed from one side, instead of from all sides at once.
There would be some measurable gradient toward and away from the singularity. That’s what I mean by breaking isotropy.
Regarding your comment about recombination, you’d still need an opaque plasma I believe. With a black hole you have gravitational collapse, not expansion and cooling. Still, getting into this much detail is too much for me
I’m still quite convinced regarding the fact that you’re violating conservation of mass and energy and isotropy
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510144738 >>510144840 >>510144853
>>510144579
I don't understand how what you're saying contradicts what I'm saying to the other anon. It sounds like we're agreeing. We don't observe inflow because it would be beyond the edge of the visible universe, which isn't 93 billion light years away btw. That's the diameter of the visible universe, not the radius.
Anonymous (ID: PKN7MXW5) Ireland No.510144754
>>510141818 (OP)
yo mommas black hole
Anonymous (ID: nsD3UiA2) Argentina No.510144840
>>510144579
>>510144738
Fair enough
Anonymous (ID: 5CxpOIcB) Ukraine No.510144853
>>510144738
I'm pointing out what I believe to be some mistakes in his specifics. We are not in agreement but I do not have the energy required to argue at length.
Anonymous (ID: crmyRUY1) United States No.510144854
>>510143951
Why are you making these fucking arguments at all?
>kikes tell you a black hole is so dense even light can’t escape
>kikes say we live in a realm that is 99.9999999999999999999999999999% nothing at all

That’s the only argument you need, these are definitionally opposed concepts. It doesn’t matter if they are correct or incorrect because they are fundamentally incompatible.
Anonymous (ID: zHA+H9y4) United States No.510144880
>>510141898
We are all circling around some gargantuan mass. Our solar system circles the sun, our galaxy circles Sag A and our universe probably orbits some kind of ultra massive black hole.
Anonymous (ID: cTiZLatO) United States No.510144922
>>510141898
We’ve been tossing the black hole since time immemorial. This is why God is a cuck
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510144932
>>510144691
>There would be some measurable gradient toward and away from the singularity. That’s what I mean by breaking isotropy.
No because the entire thing collapsed at once directly towards the center.
>>510144691
>Regarding your comment about recombination, you’d still need an opaque plasma I believe. With a black hole you have gravitational collapse, not expansion and cooling
The opaque plasma would be caused on the INSIDE of the black hole, post collapse. Recombination came after that when the universe cooled enough to allow electrons to bind to protons, thereby rendering the universe transparent. The CMB is the relict light from when the universe was an opaque neon sign, but we can only see it because recombination rendered the universe transparent such that it could reach us from billions of light years away.
Anonymous (ID: 5CxpOIcB) Ukraine No.510145187
>>510144691
>With a black hole you have gravitational collapse
Collapse is the worst-case scenario because the starting point would have been a massive core, likely stellar, which would have been gobbling up matter for 13 billion years. Recursion? Either way would've been hard to miss.
Collapse is also the most likely because tiny ones are likely to disappear with no measurable effect due to evaporation.
Anonymous (ID: d9fb/C5O) United States No.510145255 >>510145489
>>510141818 (OP)
Last week they were saying we live in a simulation
Anonymous (ID: pFhiJ3F5) United States No.510145489 >>510145741
>>510145255
programmatically engineered black holes are the only logical foundation for we're living inside of one.
Anonymous (ID: nNIqB9F+) United States No.510145741 >>510146867
>>510145489

>ITT
Anonymous (ID: pFhiJ3F5) United States No.510146867 >>510147327
>>510145741

>Just need a new invention to reboot what makes people economically sufficient
>No tech singularity
>Actually in a tech singularity
>Programming can do anything and its proof of concept support style proves that it's viable
>It makes billboards that the billboards use boiling water to communicate you can communicate with using other smaller billboards.
>billboard technology will never be the same
>Still realize we live in a faulty pattern matching association.
>Still fail to realize that this is about adoption of technology
>Still make single mothers instead of programming a better solution


oh but also

>violent blackholes commiting % of all violent crimes.
Anonymous (ID: nNIqB9F+) United States No.510147327 >>510147660
>>510146867
>broken bot
Anonymous (ID: yah2jspe) United States No.510147422
>>510141818 (OP)
Does it matter? It will never effect you or your lifetime either way
Anonymous (ID: isVnqNif) United States No.510147562 >>510151892 >>510152140
>>510142462
>disparity in the rotation of galaxies. It should be 50/50 clockwise vs. counterclockwise, but it's not
>look at a clock from the front
>it spins clockwise
>look at a clock from the back
>it spins counterclockwise
are astrophysicists this retarded?
Anonymous (ID: pFhiJ3F5) United States No.510147660 >>510147887
>>510147327
sorry your sleeper cells are telling you I can be deprogrammed, I hear that's what your suicide watch is like.
Anonymous (ID: nNIqB9F+) United States No.510147887 >>510148705
>>510147660
>deprograms you
Anonymous (ID: pFhiJ3F5) United States No.510148705 >>510148781
>>510147887
>here we go again


>Be super advanced cyborg
>Im not MegaMan
>Can't make a botnet to support my own interests
>Have an arm cannon
>Can't emphasize enough, Im not black MegaMan
>Live in a massive building shaped like a T
>Owned by holding corporation down river of Mr. T
>Try to get a cool cyborg dog
>Sued by capcom
Anonymous (ID: pFhiJ3F5) United States No.510148781
>>510148705
picrel
Anonymous (ID: VbwRBorn) United States No.510149005
>>510141818 (OP)
There is not edge to the universe. The universe is a 4D hypersphere. If you traveled on a straight line 3D vector, you would eventually end back at the same position that you started at.
Anonymous (ID: Qh2xbtxd) United States No.510149216 >>510151892 >>510152161
>>510142462
Rotating galaxies direction is stupid as fuck. Just look at the galaxy from the other side and walla, it’s rotating the same direction. Sometimes scientists are so smart they’re dumb.
Anonymous (ID: Qh2xbtxd) United States No.510149385
>>510144296
How about dark matter?
Anonymous (ID: 3ORzCYzJ) United States No.510149463
>>510141818 (OP)
NASA insider here.
We're actually living in a black hole inside another black hole— which makes it a 'white' hole by some of the people in the inner circle.
We tried to condition the public to this knowledge with the ending scene to Men in Black 1
Anonymous (ID: WBciznMT) United States No.510149537
watch watch this... watch this..
the black hole...
wait wait i got this i got this..
we just wanna do one thing...
the one thing.
this thing, this black hole thing....
what it is is..
we're the thing
the black hole thing
we're the black hole thing
as im sitting here,
people round the world, around the world
they're gonna be askin this one thing
does anybody get that?
Anonymous (ID: GWCp9DgK) United States No.510149624
>>510142293
Back to the trenches with you
Anonymous (ID: WwtTAb6B) Spain No.510150800
>>510144296
Wouldn't different pull depending on distance look isotropic? At least in the horizontal axis. Someone less drunk please whip out the math for the vertical axis.
Anonymous (ID: fhsAtU0c) United States No.510151892
>>510147562
>>510149216
>nigger mutts don’t know what disparity means
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510152140 >>510152161 >>510152326 >>510153251
>>510147562
There's only the perspective we have which is from earth. The point is that the rotation of galaxies isn't 50/50. That's the issue. The point you raise is otiose.
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510152161 >>510153251
>>510149216
see>>510152140
Anonymous (ID: isVnqNif) United States No.510152326 >>510152460
>>510152140
well what the fuck is the breakdown that's got you soibois so hot and bothered? 51/49? i hope it's something actually statistically significant.
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510152460 >>510156050
>>510152326
You fundamentally misunderstood the issue and now are calling me a soiboi because I understand physics instead of being stupid like the rest of the shitskins that make up nu/pol/. What did I even say that made you angry? Was it just because I know stuff that upset you?
Anonymous (ID: ojCKRnE5) United States No.510153029 >>510153148
what difference does it make? i mean its not like it will change anything. i will die in < 100 years if im lucky. who gives a shit.
Anonymous (ID: A/Xxh1zb) United States No.510153142
>>510141898
Yes but it's gaining credibility because astronomers found evidence that the universe is on an axis and is rotating. It shouldn't be doing that. All thanks to JWST
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510153148 >>510153284
>>510153029
If you lived for 1000 years would it make more of a difference to you, enough for you to give a shit?
Anonymous (ID: Qh2xbtxd) United States No.510153251 >>510153301 >>510153368
>>510152161
>>510152140
Who cares about earths perspective? Totally meaningless
Anonymous (ID: ojCKRnE5) United States No.510153284 >>510153319
>>510153148
no because the time frame where this could possibly be relevant would far exceed 1m years.
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510153301
>>510153251
k
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510153319 >>510153402
>>510153284
Why 1 million years? What happens then that didn't before?
Anonymous (ID: zq1JkVNH) Brazil No.510153324
>>510141818 (OP)
no, it's not, stfu memeflag kike. this is as accurate as simulation theory, then again at least this one has somewhat of true observation, but is mostly misinterpreted and it's also base on not accurate knowledge about the universe.
the true is that we don't know wtf is beyond the event horizon of the universe. More universe? Other universes? Nothing? Who knows.
Anonymous (ID: Qh2xbtxd) United States No.510153368
>>510153251
I mean there will be a point in space somewhere that the ratio is 50/50 it just won’t be from earth, big fuckin deal
Anonymous (ID: ojCKRnE5) United States No.510153402 >>510153513
>>510153319
nothing
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510153513
>>510153402
k
Anonymous (ID: FDTADx3k) Canada No.510153544
>>510141818 (OP)
Kek
Anonymous (ID: LjLksInF) United States No.510153741
No shit, what spaghettifies you more than life?
Anonymous (ID: abMuWAnf) United States No.510153811
>>510141898
Some jew threw it out when he noticed 3 galactic clusters to rotating a certain way.
The answer is no of course not. That's just retarded.
Really simply put inside a black hole time behaves like space and space behaves like time. As you fall towards the center you and everything else does as well all towards the same point in... Time.
Everything that gets caught travels towards the center which is the end of time until the black hole evaporates or pops. The fcs would not be the same everywhere if we were in a black hole for starters
Anonymous (ID: IaGHGu/1) United States No.510154049
Fcs is the same. Meh. The higgs wouldn't work lol you'd have constant gamma rays lol it's just a terrible theory..
You'd be cooking off gamma rays near constantly. Lol it's like virtual particles plus the higgs and a black hole that can go beyond the Eddington scale, it would be like a giant microwave but with gamma rays from the resulting break downs of electronics and protons and neutrons, the Feynmans would be hilarious. No this just a very stupid idea
Anonymous (ID: IlX7Cmeh) United States No.510154197
>>510141818 (OP)
At one point, OP you lived in a black ho.
Anonymous (ID: GaHxQ1pT) United States No.510154787
The center and focal point of absolute material gravity is the Isle of Paradise, complemented by the dark gravity bodies encircling Havona and equilibrated by the upper and nether space reservoirs. All known emanations of nether Paradise invariably and unerringly respond to the central gravity pull operating upon the endless circuits of the elliptical space levels of the master universe. Every known form of cosmic reality has the bend of the ages, the trend of the circle, the swing of the great ellipse.

Space is nonresponsive to gravity, but it acts as an equilibrant on gravity. Without the space cushion, explosive action would jerk surrounding space bodies. Pervaded space also exerts an antigravity influence upon physical or linear gravity; space can actually neutralize such gravity action even though it cannot delay it. Absolute gravity is Paradise gravity. Local or linear gravity pertains to the electrical stage of energy or matter; it operates within the central, super-, and outer universes, wherever suitable materialization has taken place.
Anonymous (ID: SR+fRj3q) United States No.510154918
If you believe any space shit youre a dumb retarded nigger

>why yes the big spaghetti star 100000000000000 miles away has a meatball planet which rains diamonds and might have life!!!!
Anonymous (ID: s1/FPzqU) United States No.510155076 >>510159176
>>510141818 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc1zGRUPztc
Anonymous (ID: Tq7f+AsQ) United States No.510155294 >>510155839
>>510142995
Not really, free will is illusory like everything else.
Anonymous (ID: 8M4uyhi+) United States No.510155839
>>510155294
You sound demoralized...but I guess that was your fate.
Anonymous (ID: isVnqNif) United States No.510156050
>>510152460
>>>/x/
Anonymous (ID: pEH4ukiZ) Australia No.510156358
>a black's hole
Imagine the smell

There is no way we live in a black's hole or a blacked hole or a blacked black's hole being blacked.
Anonymous (ID: ufj9Lue2) United States No.510156480
>black holes
Add it to the list.
Anonymous (ID: 9hDMNb1K) United States No.510156688
We are all inside the belly of a great beast, and it is eating us alive.
Anonymous (ID: S5AVNpB7) United States No.510156838 >>510157009
>>510143951
>>510144579
The discrepancy you two are having is that one is assuming the in-falling matter at the edge of the universe is constantly adding "new matter" to the universe, thus increasing total mass. This is incorrect. The absolute amount of mass in the universe is static. However, this does not mean new in-falling mass isn't accruing at the edge, or horizon, of the universe; it simply means it has already been calculated into the total amount of gravitation of the universe. This is a consequence of human (or possibly all conscious) perception as it can apparently only process moment to moment, whereas all of time and space exists within a singular "mega-moment" that is imperceptible as a whole and may only be pieced together -- at least by "us humans". Time and space both appear to us as fragments within and across our perceptual modalities but, they are indeed one and whole.

As such, any energy-information near enough to consciously perceptible inputs (thus perceived earlier) would be cooled enough to be perceived. In-falling matter will be quite, quite far away. (quite).

In regards to OP, my "guess" is actually a discrepancy between the masses of the two initial colliding objects that formed the exterior black hole.

The reason we get dark matter and dark energy is because they are perceptual artifacts. The edge of the universe is a 380k ly bound of boiling particle soup before it light may even solidify. Then you gotta calculate the hawking radiation, or how much mass evaporates into the anterior universe, because it depends on the surface volume of the anterior bh mass, god cutting edge physics is really frustrating.

Did I even mention singularities being critical thresholds of scalar re-normalization? ffs
Anonymous (ID: pEH4ukiZ) Australia No.510157009
>>510156838
Yes but what about the fact were inside some black's hole? We could die on The Shittening at any moment, when a Cosmic Turd slams into us.
Anonymous (ID: VQhmuM+v) Sweden No.510157385 >>510157886
>>510141818 (OP)
more like blacked hole LEMAO
that's your humor right /pol/?
Anonymous (ID: YgAiNVV/) Mexico No.510157442
>>510141818 (OP)
>black hole

kikes sure are obsessed with niggers
Anonymous (ID: oB/3qH2Y) Spain No.510157524
>>510142293
>>510143145
>lad has been draft-dodging for so long he became an astrophysicist cosmologist
Anonymous (ID: 1gGNJ42L) United States No.510157604
>>510141818 (OP)
>all humans originate from Africa
>everyone's a different type of black person
Anonymous (ID: pEH4ukiZ) Australia No.510157886
>>510157385
Precisely. Imagine the smell. Proof we don't actually live in some black's hole.
Anonymous (ID: AaIpeJSa) United States No.510157996
>>510141818 (OP)
>Are we living in a black hole?
I don't think a black hole's survivable. We would have been turned into subatomic particle spaghetti. There'd be no Labubus because a black hole would have killed us all immediately before the TikTok-addicted white women ever reached their local mall Pop Mart.
Anonymous (ID: Dk+ID15B) No.510158337
>>510141818 (OP)
>our planet is another planets hell's
>existing inside a black hole

This checks out
Anonymous (ID: 8ZEd/Dna) Canada No.510158532
>>510143951
>You don’t have a quantum state

Micro-tubules would disagree
Anonymous (ID: SDOW0fE/) United States No.510158721
Niggerverse theory still undeniable. We live in the niggerverse. In an alternate universe it's Crackerverse and white people cause problems.
Anonymous (ID: gryhPzFB) United States No.510159176
>>510155076
This is stupidity, but it does bring up a good question as to why it wasn't called a Gravity Well or Absolute 0 going off on scientific classification.
Anonymous (ID: 9R+dja1u) United States No.510159724
>>510141818 (OP)
soundgarden proved this theory in 1994

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg
Anonymous (ID: ML1n3Mb0) United States No.510159882
>>510141818 (OP)
prester john did not win