How did Americans manage to successfully keep the Metricjews at bay for the last 235 years?
I bet you didn't even know metric was that old. Or that it was invented by French Antifafags during their revolution.
There's only three countries in the entire world who still use the Imperial System today. I can't remember the other two.

>>510279546 (OP)
Kilometer gentrification

>>510279546 (OP)
>How did Americans manage to successfully keep the Metricjews at bay for the last 235 years?
American society is structured around fractions and European based around the unscientific decimal system. Imperial units are divisible by 1,2,3,4,6 and 12. Demical is only divisible by 1 and 5. America is about practicality and Farenheit has greater resolution in degrees for the temperature society finds itself in, Centigrade has to pull stupid shit like 23.3 because its resolution is too low.

People were very honest about jews. The closer you go through time to Jesus' era, the more whites considered Jews evil christ-killing vermin. It was cultural and traditional knowledge

>>510280453
Interesting.
I definitely agree with you about Fahrenheit being superior when it comes to accuracy. The only good use for Celsius I've ever seen is for more easily monitoring PC temps.

>>510280453
>divisible by 1
Bruh.

>>510279546 (OP)
America was planning on being one of the earliest countries to go metric. But Joseph Dombey, while on a voyage to provide us a set of standard measures we ordered to make the switch, got kidnapped by British pirates and we kinda forgot about it.

>>510279546 (OP)
>How did Americans manage to successfully keep the Metricjews at bay for the last 235 years?
Effective use of whitworth machines, with predominant usage causing imperial measurements to be ubiquitous in machining and manufacturing.
The confederacy used whitworth rifles to extreme effect, and those rifles came from whitworth's machining practices. Confederate soldiers reported magical results with the rifles, while northerners learned to identify the specific muzzle report and whistle of the hexagonal rounds through the air.
Blood cemented the legacy.

What a whitworth machine actually does is use effort as a divisor. It can take one inch, and through leverage, convert 1 inch of measurement into 1/10th of an inch. Doing it through a sequence leads to 1/100th, and then 1/1000th.
This is all the metric system one ever needs, and why the specific usage was so effective.

>>510280950
Its also divisible by 0.

>>510280957
>Joseph Dombey
Holy shit, you're telling the truth. Fucking pirates!!! Also, what a strange looking man.

>>510281594
>what a strange looking man.

>>510281594
Not everything I say is bullshit.

>>510281241
You meant 10, since dividing by 0 gives an indeterminate result

>>510279546 (OP)
Nobody was wanted to relearn 10 yards per first down or 90 feet to home plate.

>>510283835
There is no such thing as 10 in the number system, only 0 and 5

>>510279546 (OP)

>>510280453
>unscientific decimal system.
That's why nasa and every big player in engineering / architecture uses the metric system

>>510280453
Fahrenheit resolution is too high
you can't feel the difference between 70 and 72
meanwhile the difference between 20 and 22 is palplable
your weather people frequently say
>tempereatures in the low seventies
or someshit because nobody cares about the exact number
also pic related

>>510284371
If it’s a little warm in my house I get up and turn the AC down two degrees. You wouldn’t understand that because AC is a luxury you can’t afford.

>>510284629
I don't need AC
my house isn't a gypsum and cardboard box in the desert

>>510279546 (OP)
>Metricjews
Cope for using a retarded ass system. He's 6" 3 1/4 ' tall. Fucking nonsense. Say it in meters faggot.
Measurement increments in unequal units. That's absolute retardation.
Decimal point makes sense. Your shitty yards, feet, inches, etc, are useless.

>>510279546 (OP)
I worked in a machine shop one summer, all of the old equipment from before the age of the computer is hardcoded in imperial. And I’m not talking dinky lathes and rulers. Massive fucking machines with intricate mechanical logic most places have packed up and shipped to india

>>510284689
And yet, your people come here and have to learn our ways when you beaners work construction.
Hahahhahahaa, we won every time

>>510284833
Illegals aren't my people. They're yours. You welcomed them and gave them jobs.
You make their children, undistinguishable from your children.
Imperial system sucks balls. Cope some more.

Decimal inch is used by gigachad metrologists.

imperial system can only make sense to brownoids lmao

“Imperial” measures, ironically given the name, are organically developed everyday measures in use by the common man. They were standardized/rationalized but were born of common use by ordinary people.

Metric was a “rational” system imposed from above by self-important bureaucrats who were more interested in standardizing society for their own legibility than in how that society naturally preferred to operate.

tl;dr imperial = working man’s honest measures, metric = insidious kike bureaucrat plot

>>510284666
My house is brick and plaster walls with a 10’ ceiling. It’s a craftsman style, built in 1910. It’s 1,400 sq feet on a 3/4 acre lot. It has central air and heat.

You will never live like this.

>>510284371
>you can't feel the difference between 70 and 72
I can. There is a marked difference between 70, 72, and 75. I know because I keep my house at those temps over the course of the day, and there is a difference between them. And degrees matter when talking about office temps and suits n shit.

Now sure, there isn't much of a difference between 72 and 73. But I don't have to use decimals to deal with minor changes, and that is convenient.

Plus F is useful at the hot temp range. Body temp being at 98.6F is weird, but it's handy that 98-100+ is hot as fuck. Meanwhile C is useless in hot temps. 38? 40? C is only useful at 0, where water freezes.

>>510284371
you can't feel if you have a 100.6 fever? that's 2 degrees above normal and is indicative of an infection or reaction of some kind at the least

you're wrong

>>510284666
then stop bitching about how hot it is every time the sun comes up

The jew fears the decimal inch metrologist.

>>510285088
You have it backwards.
Metric is made simpler so brownoids can understand it.

>>510285088
Kinda, Imperial is more relatable to the real world and what you see IRL living. AKA a foot is a foot long.

But at the end of the day, we have come full ciricle and science is gay. and we have learned that natural measurments based on objective reality we all can understand intrisicly... has show to be more 'true' then metric.

>>510280453
We use both systems depending on the situation

C temperature is superior
0c is ice cold, there will be frost outside and it will make an ice cube
100c is boiling water
50c is the peak of desert heat, if the air is that hot you are going to die soon

Your claim about resolution is nonsense, using f for heat is like using centimeters for height, it just becomes meaningless 3 digit numbers
Oh this guy is 172cm tall? It's totally unintuitive nothing numbers
The oven is 172 f hot? How much is that in actual real temperature? Oh 78c, so getting near boiling

My weather is in c
My oven is in f
You cant trick me you silly American, farenheit is gay and lame

>>510285473
your a 100% retard

>>510285373
jews fear the precision tools

>>510279546 (OP)
Friendly reminder that the official definition of the pound is 0.45359237 kilograms and the yard 0.9144 metres.
You are ultimately using metric measurements, they just convert them into burger-units for you so you guys can feel a bit special.

My hair is .003" in diameter.

>>510285436
can you explain why you put months before days when writing a date

My 9 gage guitar string is .009"

>>510284324
nasa uses both depending on what they're doing you dipshit, how the fuck do you not know this? we had a shuttle blow up years ago because of it, someone thought an 8mm bolt and a 1/2" bolt were the same thing and shit was loose and nobody caught it, then BOOM

>>510285732
The official SI definition of a meter is
>the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 30.6633189885 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium-133 atom
I’m not sure what makes your unit more special and less arbitrary than mine

>>510279546 (OP)
antifa didnt exist during the french revolution but cool science fiction

>>510285817
Because in our everyday speech you say the month first. I refer to a day as “October ninth”, not “ninth October”. So when I use numbers to represent those words, I write them 10/09. If your everyday speech tends to say “ninth of October” instead, your way makes more sense for you.

>>510285817
That's how we were taught to do it in school. And if you joined the military they teach you to write the date like this.... 13 July 2025. I prefer this way personally, where you spell out the month and put in the full 4 digit year, so that there can be no confusion.

>>510279546 (OP)
Because nobody naturally has an intuitive of metric measurements. The old imperial system on the other hand, is incredibly intuitive.

>>510285956
>8mm, 1/2inch
You are a dumbass and have no idea what youre talking about. 8mm is close to 5/16" measuring at .315 and .3125 respectively; your argument is fake news that was intended to oust leaky faucet nasa desk jockeys that have zero clue about tolerances. To believe that someone tries to use a bult nut set with that large of a discrepancy only displays your ignorance and proves you are likely a jidf agent or a poojeet streetshitter.

jews DO NOT want you to know this, but you can split the inch into decimals; like we have been using for the past few centuries: standards have only gotten more repeatable and tighter.

>>510279546 (OP)
>Americans manage to successfully keep the Metricjews at bay
America has guns. Those backwards animals must be disarmed and then completely genocided. Then whatever few docile browns are chosen to work the land, mine minerals, or get raped by and for the Jews will use meters, kilograms, and centigrade if they even require education for their tools. More likely the AI will just direct their labor in clicks and grunts.

>>510285373
>>510285816
>>510286211
>>510286380
I am the only poster itt that has personally measured the thickness of paper or hair. You have no idea how to measure and its because you lack metrology equipment. Acquire calipers at the very least. I recommend dial calipers however the digital or vernier ones are just as good for either higher resolution or durability.

>>510286168
ours is more information per syllable although i doubt thats the reason for being different

This thread proves that jews are low iq

>>510279546 (OP)
Metric is caveman tier. Imperial is superior because it uses base 12.

>>510279546 (OP)
The British sank the French ship the, rather expensive, metric weights and measures bound for America were on.
Because the ship was owned by a guy that you may have heard of named Napoleon.

>>510279546 (OP)
its unironically because america has a strong freemason presence and was originally suppose to be the "new atlantis". free masonry in europe were all infiltrated by anglos and turned into spy rings, but there are still some genuine ones in america. the metric system obfuscates sacred numbers and ratios, imperial still connects humans to physical reality the same way the ancients measured the earth

>>510285296
>you can't feel if you have a 100.6 fever?
I dunno
healthy body is temp 36.6C
I can feel myself becoming fevrish at 37
feels badman at 38
39+ is really bad
41 is ambulance time (just don't go bankrupt)
42 you're dead from your proteins cooking

>>510286380
This post btfo's the entire thread

>>510286832
>was originally suppose to be the "new atlantis"
Well it worked.

>>510279546 (OP)
because we know that measurement should be based on the human body, metric is literally machine logic for bugmen

>>510286731
It doesn’t though? A foot is base 12, but weight is base 16 (16oz to a pound), volume is base 8 (8oz to a cup), in fact powers of 2 are much more common than dozenal. The only dozenal measures in Imperial are length, angle and time (and metric also uses dozenal time).

>>510285162
this, the difference between 75 and 72 is enormous

>>510285611
Man is 6 feet - getting tall
Man is 182.88 cm - meaningless

This piece of paper is 7.8 inches - Huh?
It's 20cm - Got it]

Here's some ice - this is a 0c object
>This ice that objectively has no heat is 32 degrees f in temperature
Go fuck yourself
This oven is 100c, water will now boil in it
This oven 212 f? Completely random numbers

Man is 12 stone in weight - The average man
Man is 24 stone - Either a huge fat fuck or some really big strong guy, a double person
Man is 168 pounds, man is 336 pounds - absolute nonsense
A stone is 14 pounds, pounds is only good for small weights
You don't even use stone, you aren't even using imperial properly
Kg is just as gay
Stonechads rise up

>>510287154
I click my thermostat from 70 to 69 at bedtime because 70 is too hot to sleep comfortably.

jews are spamming the thread now that they've been btfo by the decimal inch chad once again

>>510279546 (OP)
>How did Americans manage to successfully keep the Metricjews at bay for the last 235 years?
Easy. You just need a sufficiently low IQ.

>>510286380
Kikes are afraid to even acknowledge this LOL

>>510287202
Stone is such a weird weight unit to me, but speaking fluent pounds when talking about human weight, I can understand how metric types can learn to speak fluent centimeters for human height.

>>510287064
Time, Calendar, Angles, Distance, all base twelve, baker/egg count, you moron.

Don't a good chunk of Bongs, Canucks and Aussies still use imperial?

>>510285373
Kikes are fraudulent

>>510287238
you should give 68 a spin.
i think you'll be surprised

Look another 1pbtid kike trying to obscure the decimal inch posts.

>>510279546 (OP)
Because fuck Europe thats why

>>510285373
Do you research metros?

>>510286380
Lel'ing at how merely being able to measure causes jews to freak out and then flood the thread with 1pbtid's. They do not want you to be able to work metal in a precision manner.

Metric is more "logical" in a detached, autistic sense, but imperial is more practical regarding human experience. Same applies to dating formats. DD-MM-YYYY is "logical" but MM-DD-YYYY is more practical since the MM being stated first immediately contextualizes the DD. If you tell me "the 15th" this tells me nothing; if you tell me "December" this tells me something I can immediately contextualize by my own experience.

Another 1pbtid loser jew trying to obscure the decimal inch that btfo's the entire thread

>>510287658
Fahrenheit is superior also because there are more pips between temperature changes, ensuring more accurate control of climate, as in aquaria or terraria. I would NEVER use Celsius for such things. 1 degree C is like 2 F.

>>510287427
>Time, Calendar, Angles, Distance, all base twelve, baker/egg count, you moron
Calendar = time dipshit. “Number of eggs” is not a unit of measure.

So, like I said, the only dozenal imperial units are angle, time and distance (and distance only up to a point, the foot is 12 inches but there’s no dozenal relationship beyond that to larger distances like yards, acres or miles)

Ones that are not:
Weight, volume, temperature, energy, power, pressure, torque (admittedly, the last two are derivative), plus all of the regular use units we take directly from SI since they have no meaningful imperial alternative (kilowatt, decibel, herz, lumen/candle, blah blah blah

>>510279546 (OP)
Some aspects of the Imperial system should be kept, such as length measurements. The rest is retarded and can be safely discarded.

>>510287794
There are advantages and disadvantages to most things. One thing I don't understand, however, is the use of "weeks". Don't know if you use it in America, but it's used all the time in work schedules here "In week 42 bla bla"".. TELL ME THE FUCKING DATE, NIGGER! I don't know when week 42 is. It's sometime late in the year, but you'll have to look up the fucking date (of the Monday in that week) anyways, so it's completely fucking useless.

>>510288300
Calendar Week/Fiscal Week is not a uniquely American business concept, but it is admittedly irritating as hell to parse.

>>510288121
It's easy to calculate from F to C or the other way around. You just need the set points - 32/0, 50/10, 68/20, and then every 2 F is 1.11111111 C. Figured that out when playing around with it some years ago. No reason to do all the math. Just do like this.. 50 F is 10 C.. So if it's 54 F it's 10 C plus 2 x 1.111111 C, meaning it's 12.222222 C

>>510287392
It works for human weight
6 feet tall, 12 stone weight, can't go wrong
Pounds are just increments of stone

If you are baking a cake you want grams
500g
I spilled 30g of the flour - Oh well, it will turn out fine
I spilled 0.066 of the pound of flour?

>>510288386
It is here, and it breaks my fucking brain. The most useless shit ever.

>>510279546 (OP)
Yes, OP we all know you're a nigger dick measuring enjoyer.
That and your whole house industry being made out of wood to role-play that christcuck inside you even more
but sure, the international measure of unit that is kike, and not your kike foreskin muncher units.

Imperial is blatantly superior. A foot is approx a male foot. An inch is a thumb. A yard is a human arm. A mile is 1000 paces. These are HUMAN terms.
Most people don't even know how metric was defined. The meter was defined as 1/10000000 the distance from the North Pole to the equator, so the centimeter is 1/1000000000 the distance from the North Pole to the equator. Then if you make a cube with each side 1/1000000000 you have a volume of one mililiter. Fill it with water and weigh it and you have a gram. This is fucking retarded and changes the definition from something relatable (the human experience) to worshipping an arbitrary distance (Polaris to Middle Earth). The metric system is satanic and anti-God.

>>510279546 (OP)
America is the only country with SOVL left in the world.
The metric system is literally Satanic. If you don’t understand this you shouldn’t be posting here.

>>510288300
>"In week 42 bla bla"
That may get done in some business contexts (I'm not sure since I'm not in that kind of work) but it's not something that's done in normal communication

>>510279546 (OP)
https://www.instagram.com/p/DL9i2GhvSjY/

>>510279546 (OP)
Metric is so much quicker and easier to use when fabricating, but I have a much easier time visualizing imperial. So when I'm building something, I'll rough it out the draft in feet and inches and then convert to metric for cutting and assembly.

Decimal inch chads are kings. Nobody itt has mentioned it which proves its a shill's thread. The inch can be split 10, 100, 1000, 10,000, even a million. But jews DO NOT want you knowing this.

>>510281633
Literally me

>>510287794
One interesting addendum to this: I wonder if the rationality of following months with days or vice versa is in any way related to whether the language in question puts adjectives before or after nouns.

To me, the month describes the date. “The 15th” means “the first 15th that comes after today” unless you specify. “July” is an adjective that describes “15th”. In English, you put adjectives before nouns. I wonder if that same rationale applies to make “15th July” sensible in a country that describes things as “apple red”

>>510288589
Be happy for that. Here it's a menace. Everyone uses it, and then I always ask, "Okay then, what date is the Monday of that week?", and people go "u-uh..uhhh, let me check". They'll always end up having to check the dates no matter what. It's NPC to the bone.

>>510284371
I absolute can tell the difference between 70 and 72 or 72 and 74. 72 is okay, 74 is like "geez is the AC on?"

>>510288300
Beginning of calendar Q4 poorfag.

>thread begins about length measurements
>jews get btfo by the decimal inch
>now they are frantically spamming about the calendar formats
jews are fucking stupid ahahahahahaha retarded kikes.

>>510288837
Okay, see you there then.. Don't check the calendar (date). You know when it's week 42, so let's just keep it at that, kek.

>>510288532
Here in America it’s
>Fiscal Year
>Fiscal Quarter
>Fiscal Period
>Calendar Week
But CW isn’t really used all that often. Normally it will be something like “week 3 of Period 7”

Why are mcburgers such psychotic people who freak out over little things like the metric system? Toyotas and Hondas are made in metric system. Computer chips are made in metric system. Von Braun and his nazi friends built the moon mission in metric system. Are all of these things a communist conspiracy? It just seems like a small-brained take. Metric is simple, so you are freeing up time and energy to spend on higher-level calculations instead of wasting time doing conversions.

>>510289015
>Why are mcburgers such psychotic people who freak out over little things like the metric system?
they love their feet, elbows, thumbs and, most of all, their niggerdicks (the largest unit to measure length)

>>510285088
>0 degrees F = it's fucking cold
>100 degrees F = it's fucking hot

>0 degrees C = it's a tad chilly
>100 degrees C = you're dead

>feet is still superior for human heights and even metric countries commonly refer to people in feet and inches

>many countries use miles for roads as well

The fact is Imperial is good for human life, Metric is useful in a lab. That is it.

>still zero jews are able to touch the decimal inch subject because it absolutely BTFO's the entire thread.
jews lose. The holocaust didnt happen

>>510289149
>>100 degrees C = you're dead
Visit a sauna some day.

>>510279546 (OP)
there was a push in the 1970s to teach kids the metric system in schools, but business interests who did not want to retool won out.

>>510289149
>0 degrees C = water freezes, the road is slippery now, be careful
>even metric countries commonly refer to people in feet and inches
no they don't
but it's simple
180 cm or more = man
under 180 cm = manlet
simple as

>>510287392
There's nothing hard on the metric system, is a science convention, you homosexual kike-slave.
you claim being proud of the tea party event and being free from the anglos but you still use their measure system that they, themselves don't use more, for the most part, because it's antiquated and follows no convention or logic.
This bong replying you is trolling you, he knows pounds were developed before the discovery of gravity by newton.
The fact is that all your freedom units (kek, very freedom when they are call imperial and base on bong monarch dick size), are based on the metric system by law, your law.
You just don't use it because you're a functional retarded with that 60% fat body mass burger pride.
But by law both pound and inches are define by the metric system.
How much kings are in a metric ton? 1000 kgs, very fucking easy, even a braindead retarded can figure it out.
now how many pounds you find on on a imperial ton?
kek.
I seen a burger short the other day with 2 constructors, a nigger and a ((white)) guy, the short was about find a piece of wood for your plywood homes, and then the white guy says that is about a dick size, and then the nigger ask, mine or yours? and then the ((white)) guy says, "yours". So yes, you do measure things in nigger dicks sizes. Is not a joke or euphemism, it literally happen.

retards only understand one system, i bet you only know one language too
t. dual finland-usa citizem

>>510285817
For the same reason you don't say "brown hair on the boy in the house" over "in the house the boy has brown hair".

There are only two rational ways to do dates: YYYY-MM-DD or MM/DD/YYYY.

>>510288993
We use quarters too, and that's useful. It's literally just the seasons. What is a fiscal period? Never heard about that.

I only use dates and timestamps. "16/04/25 kl. 17.00" It's the most precise. (kl. means "klokken" - o'clock in English). When doing that, there's zero doubt. Zero shit for the receiver of the message to unpack. It's right there. All the info they need.

>>510289322
>>even metric countries commonly refer to people in feet and inches
No. Literally no one does.

>>510288572
Ok so how many pounds are in a cubic foot of water? 17 and 84/589.7ths? What's the relationship between a thumb and 1000 paces? Oh right: not related at all. Omg so intuitive LE HUMAN!

>>510285436
>AKA a foot is a foot long.
The foot of who? because not all feet are the same

>>510289322
Anon, I don't need a thermometer to tell if water is freezing or if water is boiling.

>>510289389
The boy in the house has brown hair would be correct if you ask me, but of course you didn't.

>>510280453
>unscientific decimal system
Wait until I tell you about non decimal money. I wonder if I could get amerifats to support it.
>1 pound is 20 shillings
>1 shilling is 12 pence
>customers total comes to 1 pound 3 shilling and 2 pence
>all they have is a 5 pound note
>how much change do you give back

>>510279546 (OP)
look around our beloved society and britain and say imperial wuz right
imagine being born in britain where you will never escape the curse
(of being able to make perfect rotten fish pie)

>>510289457
>Anon, I don't need a thermometer to tell if water is freezing
sure you could just use a weather stone on a rope like in that ancient joke

>>510289451
manlet detected.

>>510289530
but how much is that is guineas and sovereigns?
I have a two dubloon coins btw, can I get change for that?

>>510285088
>Africa is white
>North America is brown
Ok jeet

>>510289522
I'm glad you grasp the concept of relevance and realized the brown hair isn't the context.

>>510289345
>retards only understand one system,
Nooooo system x that I'm used to is so easy to use and good for everyday life compare to system y.

Yup jews lose. Decimal inch reigns supreme. jews are afraid to even write the term: decimal inch
Prove youre not a kike orna streetshitting poo by simply typing
>decimal inch

>>510280453
Sounds like someone has a bullshit job, as do most Americans. Which is why they can get away with using a retarded system.

>>510280453
In science, Kelvin is used. It's based on the same "scale" as C, just 273.16 points behind. F is exponential, and that's why most of the world can't relate to it.

>>510289149
0 freezzing 10 cold 20 room temperature 30 hot 40 very hot
world's temperature closes between -50 up to 50 except for some radicals
in farenhait 0 is freezing temperature but so is -10F or 10F
how the fuck this particular number means anything precise?
100 F is fucking hot but so is 110 and 90
and what are the border numbers in farenhaits?
32 for example
room temperature is 68
great fucking metric for everyday measuring
its mostly for retards who only care if its hot or freezing or inbetween

>>510289530
>Wait until I tell you about non decimal money. I wonder if I could get amerifats to support it.
That system only made sense when coins mattered, inflation rendered the coinage part of it useless.

Kikes literally cannot type out
>decimal inch
Christ is king

>>510289744
Of course. But the date of the month is more relevant than the month itself. The month doesn't change every day, but the day funny enough does. I don't need to be reminded every day what month or year it is. Only when it changes. And I know that, because either I get my salary, or else it's NYE, and you need to sleep under a rock to miss that.

>>510289819
>bro 0-40 is so much better than 0-100
You people are funny

>>510289917
Okay anon it's the 19th.

>>510284666
>house
>soviet bloc apartment

these are not the same

Who would have known that jews are scared of the decimal inch.

>>510290035
Sure. I know it's July. So it's gotta be July 19th (I know it's only the 13th, kek).

You literally use that in every day communication.. "What date is it?" "It's the 19th". No one would say July afterwards, cause everyone fucking knows it's July if it's July.

>>510289294
Saunas don't immerse you in boiling water, shitjeet retard.
Don't tell me that you actually think steam only exists at 100/212 degrees.

>>510280453
>>510280880
It's even better than that. Fahrenheit was designed so that it would be easy to produce a thermometer. You stick mercury in glass tube. The mercury will rise and fall with the temperature. But how to make the graduations? You stick it into a freezing brine solution (reliably 0F, easy to make) and mark the 0. You stick it into an ice block and mark 32. Then you stick it under the arm of a human and mark 96. Then you can subdivide using a string to figure out others, because these measurements are multiples. Later, when more accurate instruments were invented, it was discovered that normal human body temp was 98.6F which threw it off, but they should have just adjust what 1F meant.

Celsius is the covid vax of measurements.

>>510289395
>What is a fiscal period? Never heard about that.
Basically a month. Except it’s rounded to end at the end of a calendar week (so a period is either exactly 4 weeks, or exactly 5 weeks), and it counts up from the start of the fiscal year (so, e.g. Period 1 might be approximately July, or October, or March, depends on the business).

Myself, I’ve always preferred to use the week-ending system. w/e 07/14 is clear enough for everyone to understand and acceptable in most contexts.

>>510290035
Compare it to AM/PM. You mutts also often leave out the AM/PM, cause if you're with someone who asks what time it is, and you both know it's afternoon because you've been up all day, then you don't have to include "PM". No, you can just say "It's 5".

>>510290077
>>soviet bloc apartment
1985 was 40 years ago

>>510290150
Unless the day is in another month in which case the month is the most important. The fact is you're used to an irrational way to do dates.

No one would ever file paperwork as Day then Month then Year.

You would always do file folders as Months.

>>510289395
>What is a fiscal period?
it's when the tax office fucks you so hard you start shitting blood (hence period)

>>510290247
Sounds unnecessarily complicated, kek. I only use dates, and I always demand to get the precise date and time if I make appointments with people. It's not my job to unravel their unnecessary crypto shit.

>>510289294
If you think 212 F water doesn't kill you jump in a bathtub at that temperature.

>>510290252
Well given you metric retards I'm shocked you don't say 15:00.

>>510290459
My good sir it's 20 minutes after 15 hours on the 8th.

>>510290291
Sure, but then we both have an argument. I'd say that the current month, your intinerary is always more relevent in the present month. That's why DD/MM/YYYY format is more suitable for everyday situations.

>No one would ever file paperwork as Day then Month then Year.
Yes they would, pretty much everywhere outside America. Here it would either be "13. Juli 2015" or "13/07/25".

>>510289986
0 in farenhait tells you absolutely nothing same as 100 in farenhait
0 in celsius at least tells you water is freezing below that
10 is like a warm fridge
20 is exactly room temperature
30 is beginning of sweltering heat
40+ is dangerous zone typical for niggers and similar
its much more usable in everyday life than dumb farenhait

jews lost.
Decimal inch wins

>>510290459
We use both here. 3 PM can be both "klokken 3/tre" or "klokken 15/femten".

Celsius may not be as Scientific as Absolute Zero made by the Kelvin guy, but at least it follows the same convention, it only drift the 0 from being the absolute from the freezing point of water on earth atmosphere since we live on earth and we are made out of water.
Since 2023 burgers define their own piss and drunk units of ((freedom)) by the metric system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_customary_units

>>510290360
I wouldn’t make appointments using the period system. It’s a subdivision for the purposes of accounting computation. You talk about the sales trends in P10, and that’s a nice concise metric because you don’t have to ask questions like “how many Saturdays were there relative to Thursdays, and how does that affect the numbers?”

You go 4 week period, 4 week period, 5 week period, that’s a quarter. 4 quarters is a fiscal year. You look at trends over weeks, periods, quarters and years. It has the advantage of ensuring one unit is always divisible into whole multiples of the next unit down.

>>510280453
This is true and it will never stop making foreigners seethe.

>>510290623
What's up with Liberia? Ooga-booga system? "What time is it, Mkubu?", "Uuh, it's two and a half mouthfuls of human flesh o'click clack".

>>510290761
it isnt true you dont even feel the warmth difference between 23 and 24C

>>510290678
It's overly complicated. Everyone understands a date and time. It's the most laconic way to put it.

>>510279546 (OP)
The scientists who were going to propose the change to metric were all killed on the Titanic. The ocean said no.

>some dumb fuck foreigner is trying to respond to me when his flag isn't worth listening to
Get filtered faggot.
/^(?!US$|CA$|GB$|AU$|NZ$|IE$|JP$|KR$).+/

>>510287515
We use both depending on what we're talking about
Each system is better for certain things

All our ovens are in f for some reason but we use c for everything else
Using f for temperature is total nonsense for people who think their ice cubes are hot
I would completely delete f as a system, I want an oven in c

If you can argue that decimalised inches are good (they aren't, you are literally using cope decimal) then you can handle 0.3 of a degree of c for some niche scientific purpose
However
If you want to think of a mans height it's 6 feet
6 feet 5 inches? Damn that's a tall guy. 6 feet 7? Holy shit!
decimal for human height is gay unintuitive nonsense

Miles are better for car distances, km is just cope miles
Judging by the human reality of people walking around near your car - 10mph or less is slow, 20mph medium, 30mph is fast
Are you actually going somewhere now?
30mph slow, 60mph is medium, 90mph is fast
>Excuse me I'm going to drive in my vehicular automobile motorcar at 48kmph
Fucking what?

>>510290189
>>510290413
Stop moving the goal post you brown niggers.

>>510290573
His point is, you don’t keep all the 13ths together, then all the 14ths together, then all the 15ths together. You group by larger subdivisions, and put the most significant digit on the left.

Years are a unit. Within that, months are a unit. Within that, days are a unit. Within that, hours are a unit. Within that, minutes are a unit. Within that, seconds are a unit. If you have a timestamp on a file it reads
YYYY-MM-DD_HH:MM:SS.ms
Because that’s the way that makes alphabetical sorting = chronological order.

Writing the day before the month is like writing the minute before the hour. Why do you flip halfway through? Why is it 15 july but not 45:07?

>>510290588
It's amazing how mindbroken you are to think that 0-100 is a nonsensical scale.

>>510280453
>his brain can’t handle significant digits without getting overwhelmed

>>510285088
Feet, Inches, Miles, and ounces are all better related to human perception, with 10% noticeable differences. You can spot when someone is an inch taller, you can feel when a baby bottle has hit 4 ounces instead of 3 or 5, you can run a mile without looking at any kind of gauge because it's tied to human endurance. You can eyeball how many ft wide something is. You can feel the difference in 1 F and easily set it per whole point for temperature. 76F is near ideal room temperature, but in C you can only set it to 24C (75.2F or 77F which is too hot or too cold).

If you switch to metric, you need weird measures for everything to hit these easily perceptible numbers, you need thermostats with an extra decimal point to be easily adjustable for comfort, and then you end up moving in units closer to F anyway. Metric is easier only on paper. But trying to run 1.609 Km is a weird goal. 10x is a totally arbitrary cuttoff for most things. Moreover, with top tier engineering, it does nothing to help. Metric and Imperial have had no outcome performance difference at all for engineers. Smart people learn to use any units.

The only thing Metric is better at is memorizing the differences, which is irrelevant outside of school mostly. Sometimes it comes up in cooking but most measuring cups units are sufficient.

AS a human factors engineer, I prefer a system based around human perception.

>>510290588
It was set according to physical circumstances that could be easily reproduced and wide enough apart to create granular units. You're literally just ignorant, see >>510290200

It's even more ridiculous in construction. In Germany, dimensional lumber is given in specially chosen unit combinations (like 200mm x 50mm for the equivalent of a 2x4 because 2cm x 5cm loses all the useful divisibility. Europeans literally shoehorn metric measurements back into imperial because it's so much more useful. I know of the German case but I'm sure you can find examples in other European countries.

>>510290588
Oh so 0-40 isn't completely arbitrary even though it's absolutely retarded?

>>510285436
>AKA a foot is a foot long.
A meter is exactly one Minecraft block long. You lost.

>>510290942
>P1
>”overly complicated”
>from June 28th to July 26th
>”concise”
It isn’t complicated it’s just foreign to you. Thinking in Periods is second nature to anyone in business, at least in America.

>>510291112
>say something retarded
>screeches like a woman when called out over it
You actually believed that saunas were normally boiling water temperature, didn't you? That's fucking hilarious.

>>510291126
I get that, but it's just not very relevant for daily use. You know what year it is. Or do you wake up every day and have to be reminded what year you're in? Or month for that matter? No you don't. It's only relevant 13 times a year, 12 times for the months, and 1 for the year. Days are relevant 365 times a year.

The clock is opposite because the seconds aren't relevant in a day. The hours are most relevant for scheduling, then minutes, then seconds.

It all comes down to simplicity and relevance. It supercedes logic.

>>510291334
You had to write the dates down, didn't you? Then why not just do that to begin with?

I have no idea what a foot is in relation to anything
I have no idea what a yard is in relation to anything
I have no idea what a mile is in relation to anything
I have no idea what a quart is in relation to anything
I have no idea what a gallon is in relation to anything
I have no idea what a pound is in relation to anything
The answer always involves some retarded arbitrary number

With metric, everything is just *number prefix* times measurement unit.
Meter for length
Gram for weight
Liter for volume
Joule for energy
Byte for data

Nano = billionth
Micro = millionth
Milli = 0.001 (ie. Millipede)
Centi = 0.01 (ie. Centipede)
Deci = 0.1 (ie. Decimal)
Nothing = 1
Deca = 10 (ie. Decade)
Hecto = 100
Kilo = 1000 (ie. Kiloton)
Mega = million (ie. Megaton)
Giga = billion
Tera = trillion
Peta = quadrillion

>>510291430
It's literally relevant most of the time for daily use to have to tell someone a date that isn't the current month. Because normal people when referring to the same month say things like "This Tuesday" or "Next Tuesday".

>>510291338
>You actually believed that saunas were normally boiling water temperature, didn't you?
Lol this burger thinks 100C air temps is killing you.
In Europe we have public saunas at 100C.
You can easily go a couple of minutes at 150 C.

>>510291430
>it's just not very relevant for daily use. You know what year it is
Correct. And at the end of the year, files tend to get put into storage anyway. Which is why we default to MM/DD and leave the year off, which in turn leads to it being appended to the end (MM/DD/YY) if it’s wanted at all which it typically isn’t. Because MM/DD is the information we typically want, and it makes the most sense to present that information with the most significant figure on the left, the same way we write time, the same way we write all numbers.

>>510291517
If you're around IQ 75 people, then yes. I never have problems with it. Literally never. If I make an appointment and it's this month, I say "Here the 14th", and if it's next month I'd say "The 14th of Aug". You're overthinking and overcomplicating it.

>>510291534
Anon go into a room that 212 F.

>>510291515
The whole "I can translate units by moving the decimal point" is irrelevant because you can already do that with scientific notation.
You can also just tack the same thing into imperial. Or anything. Milliinch, deciinch, kiloinch, etc. Tiny brained metrictards can't imagine this.

>>510291515
>I have no idea what a foot is in relation to anything
>I have no idea what a yard is in relation to anything
>I have no idea what a mile is in relation to anything
>I have no idea what a quart is in relation to anything
>I have no idea what a gallon is in relation to anything
>I have no idea what a pound is in relation to anything
>The answer always involves some retarded arbitrary number
Meanwhile meters are minecraft blocks.

Every kid on the planet knows how many blocks tall any structure is.

>>510291658
I need to know what day of the month it is every day, but not what month it is every day. Month changes every 30 days, days change, yeah, daily.

I literally fail to see your logic here. Makes no sense. I'm sure Danes are ten times more punctual than Americans anyways, kek. We are extremely punctual people, so it proves that our system works flawlessly. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

>>510291477
>You had to write the dates down, didn't you
No? P2 is the one that starts Monday when P1 ends on Sunday. It’s very natural to think this way when dealing with business KPIs. Of course I wouldn’t think this way if I was making an appointment, but there’s a difference between the units that are useful for specifying a date, and the units that are useful for specifying a range of dates. The concept of a “month” is not very useful in business, it’s an arbitrary and constantly-changing vague collection of days/fractional weeks.

>>510291126
>YYYY-MM-DD_HH:MM:SS.ms
This is the only non retarded order, the stellaris default, very useful for computers too since the order is alphabetical too

>>510291103
>All our ovens are in f for some reason
No they're not.

>>510291534
>In Europe we have public saunas at 100C.
Isn't that the temp where water boils? What do you do with your skin after it blanches off you?

>>510291979
did you drop out of high school?

>>510291722
If you don't grasp why conceptually it's easier for someone to understand December 25 easier than 25 of December then you're already lost and that's why even now you're an ineffective communicator. Classic midwit take by the way, the goal should always be about saying things that are least confusing to the most people. What you don't realize is when you start with 25 the first thing someone thinks is "oh this month" and then you say "December" which causes them to switch contexts. I already know you wont' get this idea, but that's because you're going down with this ideological ship.

>>510290200
This is so convoluted
You think it's logical to measure things based on FREEZING BRINE instead of water?
It doesn't rain freezing brine and your car doesn't skid on freezing brine

>My ice cube is hot because it is less more uncold than this block of frozen brine

>>510291762
>a minecraft block is a meter
>Steve 1.85m tall and walks 4.3m/s
I mean I know he’s Swedish but god damn

>>510292029
Most people don't set a sauna above 200 F for ambient temperature and I shouldn't have to tell you why.

>>510291754
>Anon go into a room that 212 F.
>>510291979
Bro that's pretty normal. Are you from a third world country or what?

>>510291223
I prefer 68F to 70F.

>>510291884
It's fucking retarded, kek. You have dates, no need to build all sorts of other systems on top of that. Dates are 100% precise, and that's all you need.

>>510288472
Or, I just won't and I'll keep using the superior metric.

>>510288199
Time of day, AND calendar stupid.

>>510292212
>Europeans poach themselves alive for fun
Jesus Christ how horrifying

>>510292108
Here's an idea, air temperature usually goes below 32 F and rarely goes below -10 F.

>>510290623
How can some of these countries not be known?? Burma has millions of people.

>>510292108
You're thinking like a normie and not a scientist. Imagine you want to create a system for measuring temperature from scratch. You don't have existing tables of measurements to go to. Fahrenheit doesn't exist. Centigrade doesn't exist. What do you do? Fahrenheit's system was an ingenious solution to this problem. He exploited easily reproducible physical conditions that formed a linear scale, with enough granularity to be practical for everyday measurements. Most normies have similar complaints about units of length, because they're counting on their fingers (this is why they like a base 10 system) not doing actual construction, machining, etc.

>inb4 yeah but you can't use Fahrenheit in XYZ extreme scientific experiment.
Nobody argues against Kelvin for that.

>>510292047
When it's spoken, like Dec 25, or 25th of Dec, it's kind of the same. Doesn't matter. But reading words vs reading numbers are two different things. That's also why most dyslexic people can easily read numbers.

You mutts are the only ones using this backwards system, but for some reason, all other people in the world are wrong.. Reminds me of the kikes and the 109 bars they were kicked out of. You're saying it's the fault of the bars, kek.

>>510292411
so your temperatures also go into minus
just at a more retarded point that reflects nothing
at least 0C reflects water freezing which is somewhat relevant in daily life, particularly if you're driving

>>510290588
My wife is part Polish. I get it.

>>510292582
>My wife is part Polish
so you know exactly what lukewarm is like

>>510291757
The problem isn't "what's an inch", the problem is that what is an inch in relation to other units of measurement and why isn't it consistent. A meter by any other name is just as long. But a decainch isn't a foot. Because the US system relies on its units to all be different fractions of one another, you can't apply prefixes and have it become a new meaningful unit.

People can understand byte > kilobyte > megabyte > gigabyte > terabyte > petabyte
It wouldn't matter if you called a byte a glib. But if you said 3 glibs in a trob, and a baker's dozen trobs in a stroy, and 6.377 stroys in a pung, there is no convenience.

Why is one American cup equal to 236.588 ml? A cup is 250 ml, it's easy to understand.

>>510292568
Do you know what they also do? Most places also go above 100 F. So most states go below 0 F a couple times and most states go above 0 F a couple of times. You wouldn't understand given you die when it's 85F.

>>510292305
It’s not about precision, it’s about useful subdivision. Isn’t that what this thread is about? Fahrenheit is worse than Celsius despite it’s enhanced precision because the range of values is less legible? Milli-centi-deci is better than feet/inches/etc because it makes subdivision easier?

It’s unclear and annoying to write out a range of dates every time you want to refer to a single fundamental unit of time. A period is useful because it’s a consistent subdivision of a fiscal year, which a month is not. If you want to do good comparative analysis you have to lengthen and shorten your months to be consistent sizes and day spans ANYWAY, why not just put a label on it (P7) instead of constantly re-specifying the exact range of dates?

Because an autist who has never done comparative KPI analysis thinks it doesn’t make sense for scheduling his haircut? Who cares? There’s a reason businesses work this way.

>>510292654
What a dumb fucking argument. Inches and fractions works for literally everything and unlike you we don't need to typically explore granularity beyond 1/4 or 1/3. If you need 0.1 you've already missed the plot and you're likely autistic.

>>510291515
My foot is exactly a foot. My cock not quite.

>>510292654
>Why is one American cup equal to 236.588 ml?
beacuse that's the size of the cup in which George Washington dipped his wooden dentures for the night
what's so hard do understand?

>>510292478
you ask me? you need to ask you fellow burgers that curate that wiki page. then again, I don't blame you for avoid, since wikipedia is mostly curate by kikes and woman with color dye hair.

>>510292835
Nothing wrong with oak teeth.

>>510292835
You don't need a relation for cups because is only used in a single context: cooking. 3 cups of flour, half a cup of warm water, a tablespoon of honey, a teaspoon of yeast. This isn't hard and I hope you're busting out the scale when you make bread.

>>510292047
>What is the date today?
>It's the 25th....OF A DIFFERENT MONTH HAHA I TRICKED YOU

>>510292747
European ways of measuring things are and have always been superior. Much more logical and much simpler, much more suitable for everyday usage. You will never admit this, and I'll never admit the opposite, cause it's simply not true, so let's end it here. It's a waste of fucking time.

It's 32:21 Clo'ock here, on the Juleteenth of 13 in 2520. Noodgight.

>>510280453
Are you saying you're to fucking stupid to do division up to at least 2 decimal places in your head?
>divisible by 1
Nevermind

>>510292654
>But a decainch isn't a foot.
Yes because in real life you almost never care about subdividing or multiplying something by a factor of 10. You care about subdividing or multiplying things by factors of 2 and 3. This is why the imperial system is superior. How do you figure out 1/6 of a foot? Easy, two inches. But what is 1/6 of a meter? Same thing with cooking.
Again, this is why in applications where this shit really matters you still see imperial. You see it in the "stealth units" of German carpentry. Or in the fact that all drill bit diameters are still given in 64ths of an inch.

>>510292805
You're basically admitting that the US measurement system isn't good enough for measurements beyond everyday practical use. The metric system is also good for everyday practical use, and it's good for everything else too.

>>510293104
So you made a strawman for what I said?
>The 14th of Aug
That was what he said he does and said it is simple.

>>510292654
>Why is one American cup equal to 236.588 ml
An American cup is based on the classic volumetric notion that
>a pint’s a pound the world around
And is fundamentally tied to the volume of a pound of water.

Now, SUPPOSEDLY the gram and liter are tied in a similar way. So I can’t see why there wouldn’t be a nice consistent translation from cup to milliliter everywhere. Unless your country redefined the cup to cuck to metric without changing the definition of a pound, thus undermining the fundamental logic of your own entire system.

>>510285473
I think Fahrenheit is better for air temperature in human terms.
0 degrees Fahrenheit is the coldest you might ever want it to be. If you're moving around enough to keep from shivering, it's very refreshing. Any colder than that (or any wind chill or getting wet) it starts getting to the point where you have to really worry about frostbite.
100 degrees Fahrenheit is the hottest you might ever want it to be. It's great for a day on the lake, but any hotter and you really need to worry about heat stroke if you're doing anything active (not involving being doused in water.)
I like Metric hardware for mechanical things, if for no other reason than I'm tired of scrounging through tools and parts and shit, just for every nut to have its own special snowflake fucking thread pitch or something.

>>510293057
>I hope you're busting out the scale when you make bread.
You actually should mass out your ingredients when cooking, ESPECIALLY when baking and ESPECIALLY when using heavily density-variable ingredients like flour. But I digress.

>>510293237
So you're admitting you chose a system that is impractical? You do realize we use Metric when it's practical to use it right? We don't use a impractical system when it's impractical to use. You do realize we sell rulers with both Imperial and Metric right? Sorry if door handles being installed at 36 inches makes you seethe.

>>510293479
Are you fucking retarded because ultimately being precise is how you fuck up cooking most of the time because things like ambient air temperature, the ingredients you used, etc, will require you to improvise. Sometimes you literally just have to add a pinch of flour.

>>510284371
>>tempereatures in the low seventies
you got it retard

basically, 1 digit of information (the leftmost) is all that's needed to transfer enough information. In celisus, you need like 3 digits, 23.4 or whatever the fuck

>>510293665
no we just can tell the difference between 20 and 21

>>510279546 (OP)
The US was by far the largest economy in the world and switching was expensive, so we didn't do it. Other smaller countries had more incentive to switch.

On one hand, Americans have to learn both but that was our choice I suppose. Even if we had switched its not like the units would have disappeared and we'd still have to be familiar enough to know them when we encounter them.

On the other hand euros and especially Canadians and Mexicans have to deal with them because we make the units so common. I see people on reddit complain that "Americans don't understand the problems they cause..." i understand and don't care.

So while I agree that metric is better by almost all measures i just don't care. I was building a parts kit gun and had to buy a pre-made receiver tube because I couldn't cut metric threads on the lathe I had which was annoying, but the lathe was so old that had we switched in the 70s it would probably be useless now.

Deep down I actually like two systems because it doubles the number of tools I have (get) to buy.

Funnily enough I've met british people (shitskins that moved there) that ask me how Americans were so dumb to invent that system

>>510293593
On a stove top most of the time yes, but baking is 30% culinary and 70% chemistry and you really should be massing your flour and leavening agents. It isn’t just a “to taste” thing it has to do with the rate that conversions happen especially with yeast and precision is relevant.

tl;dr bread doughs are made with a certain number of grams of flour. I’ll toss in another tablespoon when making a gravy if I think it’s too thin.

>>510293778
>chemistry
So you only cook with 100% pure ingredients and measure the force you use to mix to ensure the proper air, water and material ratio? Sometimes you people take hilariously retarded positions in order to win an argument.

>>510279546 (OP)
Metric is better and we should drop the American measurements. It’s just pointless bullshit they teach you to keep you dumb

>>510292547
Yes the 1700s science man found a way to measure temp with a glass tube full of deadly poison metal
People would also get sick or die from contact with mercury and lead in those days
So it was understandable for the time

But that man could have chosen normal water
Instead he chose brine
The man fucked up

>>510279546 (OP)
Stupid nigger.

>here goy, learn two redundant forms of measurement instead of actual science

>>510279546 (OP)
The UK uses both depending on whether we are assembling furniture or making the furniture the units will change

>>510293957
Without sounding like you live your life only on the computer, describe five times you needed to use Metric to solve a problem.

>>510279546 (OP)
We never let europoors dictate anything. We have always asserted our dominance over them and their backwards ways, thank Christ.

>>510293884
The point is “a cup of flour” is a measure that covers far too broad a range of “actual amounts of flour” to be useful in a culinary context. I gather you don’t do a lot of baking from scratch. You can get a kitchen scale for like $12 bro, it’s a tool worth having.

Also
>measure the force you use to mix to ensure the proper air, water and material ratio?
This is why stand mixers have precise speed throttles, do you make a meringue with elbow grease and sweat? I mean I’m impressed if you do but nobody fucking does that.

>>510279546 (OP)
>America is about practicality
Lmao
How many gallons in an imperial ton of water, and what is its volume?... do that in your head right now.

Meanwhile in metric:

1 litre of water = 1 KG, 1000 litres of water = 1 metric ton, its volume is 1 metre cubed.
that is practical.

>>510293479
>Baking bread is impossible without breaking out the kibble balance
The mind of a metrictard folks

Cooking is maybe the best example of why imperial is better. Say I want to halve a recipe. In metricland, I don't have half units, so I have to use five of the next-smallest division of 10. So if the original recipe called for a kilo of flour, now I have to make five hectogram scoops (that scoop exists, right? Hopefully that scoop exists, otherwise I'm stuck making 50 dekagram scoops. Or 500 gram scoops). In imperial if I want half a pint I just use a cup.

>>510279546 (OP)
The imperial system is beyond archaic and from a time when people only needed a system that measured length and weight. Anything else and it becomes cumbersome. The metric system is superior in every way and even observes 400 year old discoveries about gravity.

>>510293375
>0 degrees Fahrenheit is the coldest you might ever want it to be
I have never physically been in a temperature worse than maybe - 4c
I think Scotland has places that get to -5c
0 degrees f is -17c

If the temperature is 0c you will not go outside and sleep on the floor because you have water in your body and that is objectively cold

YOU CAN'T TRICK ME AMERICANS
WE USE BOTH SYSTEMS
BOTH
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Its 10456 degrees in the US and Liberia today.

>>510294168
So you're going to die on the hill that you're precise and you're not full of shit in order to win this argument.

We also don't use only whole cups. We also have 1/4 cup, 1/3 cup and 1/2 cup.

It's funny you made the chemistry argument but now completely ignore that no one cooks with pure ingredients in a lab. No one makes sure the "warm" water is exactly 120 F.

>>510279546 (OP)
I didn’t get to choose, the NIST did and they are obviously doing it for a good reason

>>510294321
>How many gallons in an imperial ton of water, and what is its volume?... do that in your head right now.
Name five instances outside of a math class where that's necessary. Bonus points if you relate it to your mother and what she does every day.

>>510291148
try refuting what i said retard
>>510291294
you are retarded
you cant even give me similar characteristic numbers for farenhaits because you will come out as idiot
>>510291292
so human's body temperature is 98.6 F?
fucking great
farenheits are completely useless
they dont make anything simpler and only introduce useless confusion

>>510294507
I am a scientist and knowing that something is equivalent to something else does save me time. It probably doesn't save civilians any time. I am making dilutions occasionally.

>>510294594
What are you even talking about? 0 F to 100 F is the yearly air temperature range within 80% of the USA. The only other time temperature matters is freezing water and boiling water, both of which can be visually discerned. Feel free to talk about instances of measuring temperature where Metric is superior.

>>510293925
He did use normal water, that's what ice is. That's how you get the 32F mark, which I literally said. You use a brine mixture to get 0F because adding salt to water causes freezing point depression (you know like why they salt the roads).

>>510294723
No one is saying scientists in a lab should be using Imperial.

>>510294353
That’s stupid. If a recipe calls for a cup and I want to make half, I use half a cup. I don’t need a unit for each halving. Also get a fucking kitchen scale. The two kitchen tools every kitchen should have that your mom’s didn’t: a scale and a thermometer.

>>510279546 (OP)
it's complicated, our founding fathers rejected the metric system, but technically we passed the metrification act in the 70s, and have converted to a mixed system, but it's completely voluntary and most people just went
>ehhh... who gives a shit
and kept carrying on carrying on. technically we learn both systems, but lean heavily towards us customary out of national pride. cars have mph and kph, school teaches how to convert between feet and yards, millimeters and decimeters, drinks come in ounces and ml
but... who gives a shit? you know?

>>510294856
You dont want to be a citizen scientist? I am. the vax was a complete hoax. I hope the Chinese take over. I am resentful as fuck.

>>510292654
Metric cups are just close approximations to standard cups meant to make old/American recipes usable since, for example, metric teaspoons, tablespoons, and cups maintain the same relationship to each other. If you make an American recipe you end up with slightly more food but the recipe turns out the same.

>>510293236
I had a textbook for a class that was so old I had to learn f-p-s to do hard science my senior year of college. The inch-foot-yard-mile thing never came up because we just used kilofeet. The thing that makes metric significantly better is that mass and force are clearly distinct units. In standard you have a pound (mass) and pound (force) . There is another unit of mass called the slug. Midwits on the internet love 'muh factor of ten' though.

>>510294594
Human body temp was discovered to be 98.6F due to more precise thermometers due to more precise engineering. The way to fix it would have been to just define "Fahrenheit 2.0" or something where the base unit was 1/160 larger. The point is the derivation/definition of Fahrenheit is superior to Centigrade for everyday tasks.

>>510294780
But anon that doesn’t make sense. Why not calibrate it so
>0°F is ice
>100°F is human body temperature
>the ice brine slurry is -30° or whatever it would come out to be
Why calibrate it the way he did?

>>510294507
it's useful for any type of engineer, you know, the people that build nations
you can go back to construction plywood+cardboard houses using nigger dicks, anon, as you try to emulate yeshua, nobody is stopping you.
but declaring that imperial units are better in anyway than metric, is a big mistake. I thought you lived on a republic, why you have such a hard-on with your tipless dick on IMPERIAL units? Is because it use nigger dicks as a conventional of measure?

>>510294723
Conversion of mass to weight in the imperial system gets all fucked up like you wouldn't believe, there are different weight and mass units like slugs and poundals depending on your length scale and then there is always ambiguity between lb force and lb mass because what does "lb" even refer to? Requires a contextual reading and breakdown of the text? Sometimes they use "lbf" and "lbm" but this system is retarded, literally satellites have crashed because of this shit.

>>510295050
You still haven't explained with decimals are better than fractions outside of "muh science" appeal. Anon, most people don't have to calculate the capacity of something in gallons from cubic feet, in fact outside of extremely specific circumstances the average person can avoid it completely. The fact is most people don't need to calculate how much dirt is required to fill a 100 foot long raised garden.

>>510295195
Because temperature goes below freezing a lot?

>>510294421
I have seen -32F in my backyard. Most winters here get to -20F to -25F. It usually warms back up though a few days later after a cold blast. Sometimes above freezing in as little as a day or 2.

>>510285088
MDY is halfway decent, DMY is full on backwatds retarded. YMD is where it's at.
same way i'd organize a filing system.

>>510286585
My digi can do inch or metric at the push of a button. I compared it to an analog set. Seems to read exactly the same on things I’d test.

>>510294873
You've obviously eaten nothing but Uber Eats. Why do you think 99% of cookbooks use volume measurements? Try cooking sometime and you'll realize just how essential being able to divide or multiply volume by factors of 2 and 3 is. The most skillful chefs and cooks aren't even using measurements, they'll just eyeball. Meanwhile, how often am I going to make 1/10th of a recipe? How often am I going to make it tenfold?

>>510295280
>typical door handle for comfortable use should be 3 feet off the ground
>typical door height should be 80 inches
>typical room height should be 8 or 9 feet
>typical room should be 10x10 feet
Feel free to seethe.

>>510295334
Well in work its mostly that being able to convert units easily makes my job easier.

>>510295334
honestly if i was doing some non science job I may not need metric. But i science.

>>510288790
I was thinking this too. You said it much better.

>>510291292
I used to work in a place that used planks of wood to make roof trusses for houses
Inches are fine for big pieces of wood
pass me a 1x10
we need a 2x14
and the big planks could be 20 feet long or whatever
but
A ruler or tape measure here always has an imperial side, and a decimal side - I don't know if that's the case for other countries
I have never picked up a ruler and used the imperial side

When we join the planks together, and the total tolerance has to be measured, we said it in mm
Because it's time to use pure logic and be careful
This will decide if the roof trusses have been accurately cut enough, and we sometimes found a plank that was miscut by the guy on the cutting bench
>we need to take 4 mil off this plank
What type of plank?
>This 2 thick inch plank here

When you live in a country that uses
>BOTH
>SYSTEMS
Practical reality will dictate what comes out of your mouth or what you automatically do with your hands

You will never pick up a doublesided ruler or tape measure and use the imperial side for anything precise or important, ever
If someone asks you how tall a man is, or how tall a house is, you will tell them in feet

>>510295760
Okay and how is that relevant to 95% of the population? You know, just like fags, you can learn to live without 95% of the population having to acknowledge you. Making everyone else's life more inconvenient because so you can do a conversion in your head is retarded especially since you probably still are required to use a calculator.

>>510295195
You aren't considering how to physically produce a scale with whole number units. Let's say the length between the 0 mark and the 100 mark (according to your instructions) on my mercury tube is X long. So I want to make X equal graduations? How do I do that? Let's say I mark from 0 to X with a string. I could fold the string over to subdivide it in half of X. Then I could subdivide again to get 1/4 of X, etc. But if I want my total to be 100 I run into problems, because after two subdivisions I'm hitting fractional units (12.5).

It's easy to imagine solving this problem today where you can buy a accurate caliper or something on amazon for less than $100. But what if all you have is basic materials? As long as he had mercury, Robinson Crusoe could make a usable Fahrenheit thermometer. Good luck doing that with Centigrade.

>>510296074
Anon it's irrelevant because he fails to understand there is practical need to measure ambient air temperature below 32 F.

>>510295437
Yes this is another good point. Fahrenheit's scale incorporates below freezing temps that would be common/relevant for humans to deal with. Again we're talking about a system for everyday use; nobody disagrees with Kelvin in the lab.

>>510296168
It's very relevant because it's literally why Fahrenheit exists. But the fact it incorporates comment temps below the freezing point of water is absolutely relevant as well.

>>510296001
Foot is evenly divisible by 3 though, that's the only plus. Lengthwise conversions aren't that bad, it's everything else because the system wasn't created with modern discoveries and phenomena in mind, they were added later.

>>510295611
I don’t cook in metric, dipshit, look at the flag. Using mass instead of volumetrics has nothing to do with “dividing by 10” and everything to do with understanding how volumetrics aren’t a great way to measure most ingredients since density is very irregular outside of liquids and lots of things are very challenging to measure volumetrically anyway.

Everyone has always known this. When you learned to cook a turkey on Thanksgiving, what was the rule you were taught? “15 minutes per pound”. Nobody sat there and tried to figure out how many cups of turkey you had. It’s impractical. Mass/weight is more reliable. This, again, has dick all to do with metric.

>>510296004
China uses metric so you will be forced to use metric. They are the worlds super power.

I think the reason why americans build paper mache houses is because they use inches which lead to too many precision mistakes to build with reinforced concrete or bricks like normal people, so they have to use cardboard which is more forgiving towards architectural mistakes. There is no other explanation why americans would make flimsy homes out of wood shavings otherwise.

>>510296411
And if you autistically followed 15 minutes per pound you'd end up with a dried up turkey. Smart point.

>>510280950
>Bruh.
Negroid detected.

>>510281241
Oh shi--

>>510295450
That is insanely cold by all global standards
minus 32f is minus 35c
The north pole only gets to -40c

The systems are so offset that they intersect at an extreme point that is meaningless
These two numbers ^ are similar temps
despite 0c (ice cube) being +32f

>>510296411
>Using mass instead of volumetrics has nothing to do with “dividing by 10”
But the metric system has everything to do with dividing by 10, which is obviously my point.
>density is very irregular outside of liquids
Good thing cooking doesn't involve liquids. Also, is measuring rice or flour by mass instead of volume really going to affect my bread? Now, which is faster?
>lots of things are very challenging to measure volumetrically anyway
Literally 99% of cooking ingredients are measured volumetrically. Are you putting xenon in your bread?
>10 minutes per pound
Imperial units. See?

>>510296074
Even considering that, it would make just as much sense to calibrate it so ice was 0° and the slurry was -32°

something i'm curious about is if using feet and inches naturally makes one better at fractions because you think in them for basic everyday life things.
like 1/3 of a foot is 4 inches obviously.
1/6 of a yard, 1/2 a foot, 6 inches.
a cup is 1/2 a pint, a pint is 1/2 a quart, a quart is 1/4 a gallon, so a cup is 1/16 a gallon.
how do europeans feel about fractions in daily life? is it unimaginable to use them compared to simpler decimals

>>510296473
No, that’s where you use the OTHER kitchen tool I said you should have, which is a thermometer. Still, knowing 15 minutes per pound is your ballpark is a good way of making sure you start the green bean casserole at the right time.

>>510288572
>A foot is approx a male foot.
If you are 2 meters tall maybe

>>510289451
>who's foot
The Kings foot. Something about an English king not having a standard measurement and husband trade was suffering. Not all loaves weighed equally. Not all cloth was equal length. Grift was rampant. Hence
>I'm putting my foot down!
Means to stop foolishness. The Kings foot became the standard measure of length. Every thing else followed suit.

>>510296967
No one is walking a line to accurately measure a room and most people understand the amount of step they need to take to make a foot and whether they need to add a smidge or take away a smidge or walk foot-by-foot.

>>510296738
Either way, you can see that Fahrenheit was neither "random" nor thoughtless, but a very clever way to use easily accessible techniques to form a useful temperature scale. Most people who screech about it have on understanding of how it works; they want round factors of 10 because finger counting is something they can easily process. Nobody ever stops to ask "this makes no sense to me; maybe this guy understood or considered something I didn't."

>>510295636
I don't know anon, I don't know many cm are on a ft.
Metric houses are made in meters. It couldn't be easier.
You know feets come in different shape and sizes, right?

>>510297642
No, I get it. I’m just saying “the freezing point of ice” feels like a very natural and sane “anchor” to a measure of something, and makes sense as a 0° point.

Hell, using the exact same logic, you could declare freezing to be 0° and boiling to be 256°, boiling’s an even more universal concept than a frozen brine slurry (how much salt, anon?) and you can still use the rule of halvings to get a meaningfully fine resolution of “one degree” out of that, with in fact far more precision than Fahrenheit did.

>>510296882
I've never once heard someone refer to a quart, but it's still 8 pints to a gallon here

Look how fucked up this all gets
A USA pint is 16 fluid ounces
A UK pint is 20 fluid ounces
Beer and milk is sold in pints
Bar glasses are made to be 1 pint

We use litres of petrol for cars
For us, half a pint is a bit more than a litre
For the USA, half a pint is a bit less than a litre

>>510279546 (OP)
>How did Americans manage to successfully keep the Metricjews at bay for the last 235 years?
Boomers, not even joking. Once they all perish, we can finally move onto the metric system. I remember when I first went overseas and how everything made sense instantly. Everything is just divided by 10. It's also why I love working on Toyotas, you could practically take apart half the car with a 8mm, 10mm, 12mm, and 14mm sockets.

>>510298041
You actually posted that picture after I gave round, human scaled numbers. A 10x10 room with an 80 inch door with a 3 foot handle is a nice room for any person and I didn't need a single decimal.

>>510298173
Because then you need 8 subdivisions. You'd need a thermometer nearly four times as big as a normal one. Fahrenheit's scale can be done with only 6 subdivisions.

>>510279546 (OP)
>I can't remember the other two.
I think it's Burma and a tiny African country called Ngogobopopoo

>>510298493
you guys don't use quarts? we use them all the time, like for quart sized ziplock bags. i guess there's bound to be some differences, like how you use stones for each 14 pounds.

>>510292395
It's very healthy and relaxing, I understand prolonging your life expectancy is extremely scary in muttmerica but try to put yourself in someone else's shoes.

>>510298173
>(how much salt, anon?)
Exactly
A man in the 1700s could get hold of rainwater or fresh water for drinking
Pure normal water

Americans
You have to let it go
You cannot bullshit me
My fridge and freezer are in c
My oven is in f

If you see a dial rotating anywhere near 0c you instinctively know exactly how cold it is because 0 is the ice cube number
If you see a dial rotating between 150f and 250f it is all just imaginary oven numbers
If that oven dial instead went from 65c to 121c you are using 100c as your reference mark - that is boiling water
That is a perfect oven
But in the UK we do not have these ovens, we have f ovens
f ovens are gay bullshit

Your body is mostly water
You physically and literally are made out of celcius and your mind subconsciously thinks in celcius at all times regardless of what you want because you are water

>>510298767
No, you just have to change how narrow/wide the bore is in the glass rod that you use so that the scale is practical across the range of boiling to freezing. You could use Fahrenheit’s method and essnetially reinvent the Celsius scale (more or less) by setting boiling at 128° instead.

My point is, the calibration method using powers of two rather than multiples of ten makes logical sense. The specific setpoints Fahrenheit chose do not.

>>510295195
>why this way
Water becoming solid was useful knowledge. Drinking water locks up, Livestock in trouble, Water based product and goods are lost, Fishing stops but waterways no longer isolate new lands.
Pickling, Using brine to preserve food was the most accessible and reliable.

>>510299960
i know 0 degrees as the upper limit for acceptable freezer temperatures.

>>510300212
If you set boiling at 128 then you have a very compressed scale for common use. All your useful measurements for most everyday tasks now occupy the bottom half of your thermometer, whatever it is. Also there's the physical considerations of making the thermometer. Handling a glass tube that's just been under someone's armpit is easier than one that's just been boiled.

>>510299114
A quart does make sense
But I have never heard it said
A 2 pint bottle of milk has never been called a quart by anyone here

Beer and milk is pints
Everything else is litres, even other drinks
Fruit juice is measured in litres
Car petrol is litres

>>510299960
Here in America we tend to cook in very even multiples of F° and I wonder if it has an impact on our cooking.

Like you’ll see recipes call for an oven at
>325
>350
>375
>400
>425
But you never see a recipe call for an oven at 383 degrees. I presume the same would be true of any place using celsius ovens; their recipes probably call for
>150, 175, 200, 215
I wonder if their tendency to cook things at what would be 392°F where we’d use 400°F (AKA they use 200°C, we use 204°C) matters appreciably in the way food turns out.

>>510300750
Here in the states you can buy a 20fl oz beverage and a 2L beverage from the same brand off the same shelf. Milk comes in gallons and half gallons; liquor comes in 750mL and 1.75L bottles

America does whatever the fuck we want.

>>510300674
But you don’t calibrate the measurement using an armpit. You calibrate the measurement using a frozen brine and frozen fresh water, use multiple halvings to get a single degree, and from there extrapolate to the measure of the armpit.

How are you supposed to calibrate a scale with 3 arbitrary points? That makes no sense. Two points fix a line.

>>510281633
>>what a strange looking man.
looks exactly like someone who would get kidnapped with a set of government measures on him