>>510299200 (OP)
The top 5 most powerful air forces in the world are as follows:
1.) The US Air Force
2.) The US Navy
3.) The Russian Air Force
4.) The US Army
5.) The US Marine Corp

But your pajeet toy model plane is cute

>>510299200 (OP)
go back to India

>>510299497
And they still cant stop baby raping...

>>510299200 (OP)

There's a lot more to aerospace technology than mimicking exterior shapes.

>>510299710
based

>>510299200 (OP)

>>510299497
so? You know there's hundreds of countries right? Not every conflict involves the USA, they only care if there's oil or jews involved

>>510299710
this is what we're going to do to your babies

>>510299497
>The top 5 most powerful air forces in the world are as follows:
>1.) The US Air Force
>2.) The US Navy
>3.) The Russian Air Force
>4.) The US Army
>5.) The US Marine Corp
Tell me again how you lost to the Afghans, houthis, Somalis Vietnamese and Koreans?

>>510299918
OP directed his argument against the US. Also, I am amused that all the Canadian flag posters are jeets here

>>510299200 (OP)
GOOD MORNING HOW DONYOU GET GEN 5.5 SAAARRR THE BITCH BLOODY DRONES DONT STAY

>>510299200 (OP)
Cute <any flying object> you have there.

>>510299855
>literal poo splatters on it.

>>510300093
>3.) The Russian Air Force
Lol. The Russia airforce doesn't exist anymore. They've been completely MIA in the war in Ukraine

>>510299710
Yeah, India is fucking weird. You should stop letting those people into your country where they keep doing it, too.

>>510299918
No other military matters. Zero exceptions. They are third world engagements that use trenches and tanks when such things were obsoleted decades ago. If you disagree, then pony up. Your air force is not even 5% of #5 on that list. Go get more aircraft, and try to do it without buying our retired handmedown F-16s that we sell off to make newer and newer craft that you cannot afford because only the larger (comparatively to your nation) economies in Europe can afford those.

>>510299855
>Covered in poo stains...

>>510299200 (OP)
The difference in that pic is one country actually has planes flying and future customers lined up, the other hasn't even assembled a plane yet.

I'll let you all figure out which is which.

>>510300093
A lack of public support for genociding countries is the primary cause of not accomplishing long term goals in those wars. America “lost” their interests, but make no mistake, they did not lose in body count

>>510299497
>Ruskies
It ain't 2022 anymore, given their inabilty to SEAD a bunch of obsolete F-16 blocks and the fucking Mig-29 I say bump them to 7th after the Chinks.

>>510299200 (OP)
cool model plane pajeet

>>510300805
Could be true, impossible to know right now. It’d just be speculation; no matter how correct it may seem

>>510299710
Kek true

>>510300665
>A lack of public support for genociding countries is the primary cause of not accomplishing long term goals in those wars.
Debatable you genuinely got your ass kicked in Vietnam and Yemen

>>510300308
what about this, what about that?

>>510299200 (OP)
Okay so let me get this straight. The first f-22 flew in 1997, and it wasn't until 2012 that it was finally completed.
We are living right on the cusp of drone warfare that's likely to make the f-22 obsolete, and the Indians are only in the model stage of their new flagship fighter?
Seems like a waste of time and money to me. Manned aircraft can only pull as many g's that a human body can handle, a drone will romplestomp them in the near future.

>>510299710
They built up those forces to specially protect baby raping

>>510299497
7.) chinks
8.) the National Guard
9.) the NYPD

>>510299200 (OP)
>5.5 gen with 6th gen technologies
I know nothing about fighter design but this sound like cope

>>510299497
>3.) The Russian Air Force
Anon... Please.

>>510299200 (OP)
India hasn’t even managed to get their domestic 4th gen into wide service, Tejas is still a low production airframe with fewer than four dozen examples in service despite the program being initiated in the 1980s. It also just isn’t a particularly impressive design, being more or less a jeeted Mirage. If they can’t manage a 4th gen they’ll never do a 5th and probably end up buying Su-57 if Russia offers it again. I doubt they’re allowed F-35 since they’re still too close to Russia. KF-21 currently uses American engines and Lockheed Martin has been advising the program. As it stands it isn’t a 5th gen since current examples don’t even have an internal weapons bay, massively limiting their stealth, and certainly isn’t “5.5th gen” as it doesn’t have performance advantages over any in service stealth fighter.

>>510299200 (OP)
>from the country that eats its own faeces and the one with a feminist cult goverment

>>510300951
A 1995 demographic study in Population and Development Review calculated 791,000–1,141,000 war-related Vietnamese deaths, both soldiers and civilians, for all of Vietnam from 1965 to 1975. The study came up with a most likely Vietnamese death toll of 882,000, which included 655,000 adult males (above 15 years of age), 143,000 adult females, and 84,000 children. Those totals include only Vietnamese deaths, and do not include American and other allied military deaths which amounted to about 64,000.

Also worth mentioning that France fought and lost the first Indo-China war prior to US’ involvement. I realize this is just a dick measuring contest here; but war is obviously far more complicated than numbers anyway. Not to mention wars wherein the fronts are on the opposite side of the planet.

>>510299200 (OP)
The KF-21 is absolute trash and is barely even 4.5 gen. The J-35, which itself is a joke, at least has internal weapons bays.

>>510300951
France got it's ass kicked. America did not. We initially won the Vietnam war and got North Vietnam on a peace agreement that they violated a year later, but Americans said "No" and we abandoned South Vietnam completely.

We completely won the Houthi conflict. Not sure what copium you're on.

>>510301352
>>510301384
Cope posts we were there to end the communist regime, got our shit kicked in and left.

>>510300248
I've seen this one...

>>510301384
The KF-21EX is the stealth version with internal weapons bays. That is currently being built.

>>510299710
Checkmate, mutts.

>>510299855
That camouflage is cringeworthy.

>>510301520
Read the thread or gtfo

>>510301573

>>510299200 (OP)
I got bad news for you saar, meestaar retardkun.

https://youtu.be/e2blJLRyUQc

Your shitty plane made by poo-hands will not redeem. It is beyond redemption ALREADY and not even pooped yet.

>>510299497
Israel*

>>510301764
Lmao it would be too on the nose if it were satire

>>510301970
Was using this as a reference, up to the reader to decide if they agree with it or think it’s bullshit. Not really my problem, but feel free to check it out anyway
https://www.wdmma.org/ranking.php

>>510301702
You lost, tranny.

>>510300805
>It ain't 2022 anymore
You're right, bump them to first and the USAF down to 2nd. They bomb Kiev every night, the USAF can't even destroy Fordow

>>510299497
How proud the jewish golem is of his masters assets and power structures. Vile golem.

>>510299200 (OP)
These fakers think they're 6th gen because they made a mockup? They don't even know what that means. I believe South Korea will make some sort of decent fighter jet that isn't 6th gen but not India.

We have a Space Force now Rishad

>>510301352
>A 1995 demographic study in Population and Development Review calculated 791,000–1,141,000 war-related Vietnamese deaths, both soldiers and civilians, for all of Vietnam from 1965 to 1975.
Your argument was that you only lost because you didn’t genocide but then you post data showing you genocided as much as you could ??

"We didn’t use nukes" you couldn’t they were a puppet state of commies who had nukes

You didn’t pull any punches and lost on the ground

>>510302449
I mean, you can say whatever you want about me but that doesn’t make what I said not true

>>510302425
The big cuck thinks USA is somehow second when the F-22 and F-35 are the undisputed best fighter jets and USA already thinks they've stayed for foo long and is developing the F-47. Who's the winner then cuck? China with it's unproved probably shitty jets or Russia tiny fleet of Su-57 that even Russia thinks it's a failure?

>>510300308
The Russian Air Force is kaput because some ancient scrapheaps got droned? You know they have hundreds of those, right?
NAFO schizophrenia is truly something to behold...

>>510302740
I’m just saying body count wise, America doesn’t lose wars. Also idk why I’m even defending it to begin with, I’m one of the people that didn’t support the wars that were occurring during my lifetime. I’m just saying, and it isn’t a good thing, if america truly wanted to level an entire country -they could. Backlash would have to be damn near global and probably nuclear to fight and win a war on American soil.

>>510302663
The modern space race is controlled by an autistic, retarded, Howard Hughes-type, that thinks importing 50 billion jeets is the way of the future. Good luck!

>>510303096
You're seething lmao

>>510303259
>"we need to stop the taliban, al-qaeda, and ISIS"
>bomb the taliban, al-qaeda and ISIS
>the taliban, al-qaeda, and ISIS take control
>???
>profit!

>>510299200 (OP)
thats a little bit too small, man.

>>510303550
Yeah haha

>>510303345
RISK THREAD HERE!
>>510302509
Now you know, anons.

I think Air Forces are sort of becoming a thing of the past.
It's mostly about drones now, isn't it?

>>510303593
No. Drones aren't good in direct confrontations. They're good in attrition wars, when you have lots of time.

>>510303473
Can I get a refund for my ticket to the 2023 Crimea Beach Party?

>>510303593
Your risk map doesn't even have any rules on it

>>510303810
Or continents/territories with borders that make sense to defend for troop bonuses. I mean, there’s nothing there lol

>>510303593
They’ve become increasingly important but so far all the fanciest stuff is still manned. They’ve basically taken over recon but so far the CCA concepts are mostly high subsonic or low supersonic and carry at best 2-4 missiles or a handful of small bombs. Give it 20-30 years and I can see them take over most strike and air to air missions, but I imagine the manned quarterback role they envision the 6th gen’s having probably sticks around, even if only because the swarm of mostly autonomous killbots concept rubs most people wrong

>>510301018
They can stomp them now. Not to mention long range lasers. The age of tanks and air fighters are over.

Also what the fuck is the Chair Force gonna do when the muslims take over New York? Bomb themselves?

>>510300665
ah yes, turning women and children into smuckers is such a big accomplishment.

>>510304329
.. that’s literally what I said? How genociding people isn’t “winning” but it absolutely does show how stupidly powerful the US armed forces are?

>>510304329
It is when they go all the way, but they don't. No wonder the military is full of gelded trannies or soon-to-be trannies

>>510299200 (OP)
>5.5 gen
>6th gen
>actually just another 4.5++++ gen

>"we have the targets in sight, need to drop ordnance on these guys"
>"noooo! muh ROE!"
>finally get permission to call in CAS after 5 hours
>end up bombing the wrong fuckers anyways
>"mission accomplished y'all! GIT 'ER DONE!"

>>510304533
so powerful that we spent 20 years getting rid of taliban only to end up with taliban. sure thing. perseverance is more powerful than bombs or bullets, dipshit.

>>510305194
Alright, fine. America’s combined airborne military is weak. It’s weaker than probably ant other country’s air forces. You guys are all correct. Good job, we can stop talking about it now

>>510306173
It's not weak because it doesn't have the firepower, it's weak due to the pussy faggot "leadership". Fucking 'Nam vets could've told you that.

>>510306288
Holy shit that’s literally basically what I’ve been saying this entire time. Public opinion faded, support for wars ended, armies are pulled out, war is “lost.” Jesus Christ I hate /pol/ so much

>>510306397
>Jesus Christ I hate /pol/ so much
Welcome to the club, enjoy your stay
Also there's a few blue IDs in here that all look the same

>>510299200 (OP)
yeah, yeah

>>510307225
WHY ARE ALL THE ID'S BLUE

>>510299497
American cope is so adorable

>>510300665
America had no idea how to win or what winning even meant in a place like Afghanistan. It had nothing to do with body count or the public losing interet. Nobody in charge had any real strategy to speak of. Its like showing up to a ball game and expecting to win even though you don't even know the basic rules.

>>510306397
>America doesn’t lose wars.
>Ignores vets' suicides
>Ignores the $2+tn spent
That's like saying a malpractice didn't kill you because you died outside the hospital

>>510303259
>if america truly wanted to level an entire country -they could.
Again you literally did all you could short of nukes and you failed with your maximum power and all the bombing you could muster

And you can’t use nukes because their patron nation has nukes too

>>510307660
>America had no idea how to win or what winning even meant in a place like Afghanistan. It had nothing to do with body count or the public losing interet. Nobody in charge had any real strategy to speak of. Its like showing up to a ball game and expecting to win even though you don't even know the basic rules.
Not exactly true. An explicit goal was to do the fighting outside the US instead of in it.

>>510303473
anyone who supports ukraine is mentally retarded

>>510299497
And yet you need your masters. Intredesring.

>>510299855
What the fuck is this piece of shit?

>>510302924
They lost to the Taliban, then they lost to Yemen, then they lost to Iran. If the USAF is so great why is it losing so many wars? Why is the Red Sea still closed to Israeli shipping? Why can Yemen still bomb Israel with impunity? Where's Iran's uranium? Why doesn't the US just use some of its magical F-22 and F-35 wunderwaffen and win a single fucking war?

I like how they always copy the shape of our stuff then pretend like they're superior online.

>>510308335
Leafniggers who trip over themselves hating America are really gay and pathetic.

>>510303810
>>510303929

Okay, alright, interesting take...

>>510307635
>>510307660
>>510307767
>>510307993
>>510308185
All of your guys’ points are correct. America’s combined airborne military is weak. It is weaker than your country’s Air Force. Good job. We’re all very convinced now. It’s probably the weakest military on the planet actually, you got me.

>>510308435
What does that have to do with you being the back to back war losing champions of the world?

>>510299200 (OP)

>>510299497
I thought the joke was that the navy is first.

>>510299497
Oh look another pajeetoid shitskin jew peacocking around the US military.
Good work Joshua... Here's your participation ribbon, sweetie.

Hey, no offense, but we're not going to be dumb enough to post our high tech war toys.
Thanks but no thanks.

>>510308921
Once again I’ll state that I’m amused by every Canadian flag in this thread being a jeet

>>510308010
Which isn't really a victory plan, but more a plan to reduce American civilian deaths. Sort of like deciding to play on the away field rather than home field to avoid the embarrassment.

>>510299200 (OP)
Why is it the size of a sausage roll

i hate poos so goddamn much

>>510299200 (OP)
>First jet fueled by poo

>>510299710
indians and jews rape kids when worlds collide
when worlds collide, it's a curious thing

>>510299497
So basically Israel owns the world’s most powerful airforce.

>>510299855
the flying potato, well maybe if it gets off the ground. kek

>>510301018
The military has been working on AI fighter jets for years. They can dogfight. Jets would have an advantage in range, munitions capacity, etc.

>>510299497
All of those mentioned belong to Isr*el, goy.

>>510299200 (OP)
what is this a fighter jet for ants?

>>510299200 (OP)
Look saaar we build model! We ayreean an stonk nao yes? *headbobs*

>>510299200 (OP)
Are we going to pretend that the F-22 isn't 20 years old now?
Are we also going to pretend that the NGAD/F-47 isn't coming now?

>>510312216
>Are we going to pretend that the F-22 isn't 20 years old now?
Oh its worse than that Jim.

>>510299200 (OP)

>>510300308
>All that planning and effort to blow up planes from the 60s with fucking propellers that weren't even being used in the war.
Nato is retarded, Russia should have lost in 2023 given the amount of resources stacked against them.

>>510299200 (OP)
USAF died in vietnam.

>>510299497
>3.) The Russian Air Force
Kek the Russian Air Force barely even exists these days. I’d replace them the the Chinese Air Force or perhaps the French Air Force or something.
In fact the Russian Air Force has always been a joke, even back in WW2 they did nothing but get easily curbed stomped and the main reason why German pilots are still the greatest aces of all time is because of how easily they slaughtered Soviet pilots.