fuck (((central bankers)))
fuck boomers
fuck no-coiners

TOTAL ₿ITCOIN VICTORY

>>510346111 (OP)
https://www.opgr.org/

>>510346111 (OP)
not only central bankers but also PRIVATE BANKERS

>>510346225
fuck everyone who participates in the (((FIAT))) system

>>510346111 (OP)
Silverfag still but yea, you guys where right. I only have 100 bucks in BTC as a meme. Lmao, I'll cope.

>>510346111 (OP)
>>510346250
Little lying crypto shills. Mark Carpeles was in back in 2011.

>>510346250
yes but bitcoin will fuck over JM Morgan and Citi Bank before it fucks over the Fiat system (which i am ok with).
i am over 85% in Bitcoin and happy about it.

it just keeps going up

>>510346301
it's never too late bro, I remember when I bought in 2017 and people were calling Bitcoin a huge bubble at 5k.

Bitcoin will ALWAYS go up as long as central banks keep shitting out trillions in dollars, euros, pesos, yen, pound etc...If you have patience you will be rewarded. God speed

>>510346111 (OP)

>>510346348
why the fuck are you talking about Mt.Gox in 2025? Lmao is this some sort of new FUD?

>>510346250
Bitcoin is worthless dogshit. Cryptobros only like it because they want to sell it for USD. Notice how Bitcoin is only "good" when its price in USD is high. Because nobody can use Bitcoin in day to day transactions, it just does not happen. It's a digital Chuck E Cheese coin that's only purpose is to pump and dump like a stock. It's a ponzi scheme and people should be ashamed of themselves.

>>510346348
Nah, been in finance for 15 years now. I'll admit defeat. I was on the same line as crypto is for criminals and pedos but now I get it since the USD is fucked.

Everyone should own at least 0.01 in BTC desu. Most people don't even have 100 dollars to spare however so yea, we're gonna become a 3rd world country. I shouldn't have gone so deep in silver.
>>510346440
I have 700k in a emergency fund but I'm not going to fomo. I laughed when everyone got rugpulled in 2017 so I'll see if history repeats first

>>510346348
And now cue the nocoiner psyop. Said person got me good, I got all these little postcards from Japan, if you know what I mean. That's how much I held, and cashed out most of it in 2021. Why did I cash out? Because I looked at FTX, and saw history repeating itself, I am not kidding. I diversified, and most of my portfolio did a lot better.

Newfags: "Stay poor" and "nocoiner" emotional attacks, they call it "FOMO", appeared after the 2017 top, a sign of idiots taking over the space. When this spam rises a lot, a crash of the asset is imminent. I use these stats to judge my (small) investments in crypto coins with a simple Python counter that queries social media with the help of a paid service. Which, for example, reliably predicted the Keeta crash a few weeks ago.

>>510346479
>Bitcoin is worthless dogshit.
you literally can't afford 1 Bitcoin lol.

Keep seething, Bitcoin will eventually replace the petro-dollar system which is based on usury and perpetual debt

>>510346624
>Bitcoin will eventually replace the petro-dollar system which is based on usury and perpetual debt
delulu

>>510346479
Couldnt the same be said of stocks and bonds? Except no stock has ever hit $100k before.

>>510346559
only thing that is good about btc is that purchasing power transfer is coming back to younger generations, the bad part is that it delays the collapse of the usd

>>510346301
>I'll cope.
i respect your position on this. with an attitude like that, you agmi.

>>510346679
imagine unironically believing in the Jewish FIAT system, it's a house of cards. You're Greek, you should know better after they raped your ass after 2008

>>510346702
Yes, stocks and bonds are also scams. It's all jewish dogshit. People keep hyping up jewish-owned control schemes. Even USD itself. God, I hate Crapitalism.

>>510346702
this is 700k per share

>>510346786
What about gold and silver? Are those scams too?

>>510346624
Bitcoin cannot replace fiat. Stable coins maybe but there isn't enough btc for billions of people.
>>510346704
True but the collapse of the USD can be delayed even longer if stable coins become a semi permanent replacement for fiat dollars.

I doubt that will happen but USDC and other currency based stablecoins is the only way I see a blockchain based system working even partially, even so there would need to be a betyer way to track millions of payments and make them faster.

>>510346775
>You're Greek
that's why he's unable to get it. the vagaries of financial systems are beyond the greek mind.

>>510346775
You know that memecoin has a theoretical maximum of 7 transactions per second, right?

>>510346790
warren buffet is nearly dead. when he dies so does his magic.

>>510346559
I will try to do another 2021 with my ex Gox funds, maybe I fail, maybe I get it. If it's Trump being chased out of office, it should be doable. It will repeat. The rising AI unemployment will get some pretty big middle class industries like automotive, the ripple effects will cause a crash. And crypto is way too unhinged now to not crash. Saylor (the man who popped the dotcom bubble, he just can't help himself), staking, Trump's meme coins, Hyperliquid is way too big for half a year old vibe code, the banksters who somehow managed to cause the 2008 crash with HOUSING of all assets are now in crypto, it seems they are burying it in everything they sell without telling their customers, there are pretty good reasons.

>>510346876
>there isn't enough btc for billions of people.
you understand that btc is infinitely divisible don't you?

I'm a Chainlink maximalist.
I think it's going to completely absorb and replace not just all of crypto, but the entire financial industry.

>>510346790
His successor is going to 100% burn Berkshire into the ground.

>>510346877
>that's why he's unable to get it. the vagaries of financial systems are beyond the greek mind.
Explain how bitcoin solves that.

Even if you teleported to 2010 you'd still had to build a hood rig and mine the coins

>>510346111 (OP)
>TOTAL ₿ITCOIN VICTORY
So, what can you do with your bitcoin billions without power and internet access?

>>510346892
>theoretical maximum of 7 transactions per second
which is more than enough to be the backbone of an international financial system.

>>510346892
>he doesn't know about Lightning Network
you're parroting FUD from 6 years ago. Next thing you'll say is that Tether will implode and tank Bitcoin to zero lol

>>510346111 (OP)
>Buy my bag
nope
Also the rule is
if it gets advertised on msm (checked since early July), regular /pol/ threads (since early July) and cab drivers tell you about stocks and crapto (since July) the top is in

this thread is a top signal, including bricsshitter thinking they are "early"

>>510346111 (OP)
oh yeah? and to what currency is it being compared in order to cash out?

>>510346892
good thing a 2nd layer was made long ago, enabling millions transactions of seconds. all consolidated on the bitcoin blockchain.

do some research anon, you might understand it better.

>>510346892
It's way faster, but the big problem is the custody. If it wants to become banking, you need insurance against IT fraud. The biggest crypto website by search result position, coinmarketcap, recently drained its users' wallets with an exploit. It's pretty bad, there are not good solutions that can keep up with banking right now.

>>510346987
make no-coiners and kikes piss and shit their pants by owning a deflationary asset that perpetually goes up over time.

Pretty cool desu

>>510346979
>how bitcoin solves that.
>the weakness of the greek mind?
sorry but btc can do nothing to improve bubble IQ.

>>510346775
Bad news
Bitcoin directly correlates with the Jewish FIAT system.
It crashes when the overall economy crashes because it is now part of the FIAT system, it does not correlate with an inverse to any economic decline. It has had less gain the last 5 years then NVIDA so its not outperforming either.
Bitcoin will not replace anything.

>>510346111 (OP)
The biggest holders of bitcoin are banks and private equity firms you retard.
Why do you think it follows the trend of the stock market?

>>510346946
>you understand that btc is infinitely divisible don't you?
It's not. The smallest unit is 1 Satoshi.
>>510347006
>which is more than enough to be the backbone of an international financial system.
It's not enough to be the backbone of a small city.

>>510346417
because public companies are doing a bull run on it to pump up their own stocks.
the new craze is to announce you’re creating a bitcoin reserve, your stock prices jump, and then the value of your bitcoin jumps so you can buy more bitcoin and keep rigging the game.

>>510347057
you are the biggest top signal itt. Thanks for being a normal faggot

>>510347032
WTF, your taxi drivers speak your language?

>>510346842
>Goldberg
>Silverstein

>>510346111 (OP)
>destoy your servers
now what pasta boy

>>510346940
I'm gonna need to delve deeper but this seems accurate. I wouldn't sell if I held 1 btc however.
>>510346946
Isn't it 21 million forever? I also am certain bitcoin halving mostly just effects miners and not the supply. Correct me if I'm wrong however. I know very little about crypto. I'm a paper tiger and metals guy, always have been

Monero is the final solution to the taxman question.

>>510346111 (OP)

The bubble of all bubbles. When this burst crying will hear at skyhigh.

>>510347121
keep buying authentication token of worthless dms nobody uses I guess... crapto brahhhhhs, stupider than a boomer

>>510347032
>>Buy my bag
>nope
This rhetoric means nothing now. It doesn't matter what any pleb does anymore. Institutional onboarding has begun regardless.

>>510347115
>muh top signal
I bought in 2017 you poor mountain nigger

These numbers mean nothing if you can't cash out. Good luck ruining yourself and your "friends" kek

>>510347110
and here’s a youtuber who goes over it
https://youtu.be/inI0SC3Zj4A?si=gI5nANTK-TTZ7Tqt

>>510347104
>It's not. The smallest unit is 1 Satoshi.
off chain you can go lower than 1 satoshi. in reality a financial system based on btc will have to be mostly off chain.

>>510347057
>make no-coiners and kikes piss and shit their pants by owning a deflationary asset that perpetually goes up over time.
Looks like you can't answer. Your memecoin is worthless without your phone, electircity and internet access. Call me back when you can use memecoin to buy groceries for example.

>>510347176
>>510347186
the collapse is coming anyday now!
trust the plan

>>510347191
>please buy my bag
you are the exit liquidity of a V of V. Buttcorn failed, crapto failed. keep hodling, retard
>>510347203
>I bought in 1996 behind and arbys
>believe me
>Now buy my bag
no, and if you are a company that bought that crap, you are toxic, it shows your business plan is crap

>>510346479
The most popular companies accepting Bitcoin payments worldwide in 2025 are:

PayPal
Microsoft
AT&T
Apple
Starbucks
Whole Foods
Home Depot
Shopify
Chipotle
Printemps
Hubolt
TAG Heuer
Gucci (select boutiques)
Netflix (on trial as of Q1 2025)
Here are some additional resources you can use to find places to spend your crypto:

Bitpay – Directory of Merchants that accept crypto + crypto gift cards

btcmap.org – Live map showing retailers that accept Bitcoin.

Map.bitcoin.com– Global map showing retailers that accept Bitcoin.

>>510347176
To be fair to op the same was said about AI and and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, same with computers in the 90s and early 2000s. There was a crash but it came back stronger so I want say it's over.
>>510347258
I can't buy groceries or pay bills with silver bullion either but I still buy hundreds worth weekly. It's a hedge, that's how it works anon. Get rich quick doesn't exist, simple as that

>>510347236
Interesting. How are you going to bring information on and off-chain?

>>510347258
you're poor so your no-coiner "opinion" isn't worth much, sorry

If you were born in the 80s you probably would have called Internet a fad

>>510347278
keep buying authentication token on data management systems that are a failed experiment that failed to solve their most basic technical problems and are slower, less secure and more wonky than dms out of the 70s

>>510347131
>Isn't it 21 million forever?
there's only a fixed amount of gold on planet earth. no more is getting added. you can cut that gold into smaller pieces but it stays gold. that's why you like gold. countries used to get rich by locating gold supplies then looting it and issuing money based on how much they had in their vaults.

>>510347050
>>510347236
>off chain you can go lower than 1 satoshi
Which defeats the entire point of bitcoin.

>>510347408
>blah blah bitcoin will collapse blah blah
cope & seethe lol

>>510347331
>accepted
and nobody uses the authentication token regradless. it failed. all it is now is a third order derivative of US treasuries. you are better off buying the real thing

>>510347309
>you are the exit liquidity of a V of V. Buttcorn failed, crapto failed. keep hodling, retard
In the years to come it's going to be interesting to see the continually advancing forms of mental gymnastics that anon elect to keep justifying their cognitive dissonance over getting midwit filtered.

>>510347433

Nope. Creating gold is an energy issue, like everything else

>missed out and now cant afford a bitcoin

>>510347464
>frog
>copes
aha. go on, buy another bag normal faggot, the cab driver is waiting for a final fool
>>510347473
You are not using it, you are trying to sell it. V of V and you niggers are currently trying to find greater fools for the 5 of 5 in the V of V

>>510347433
>>510347444
>be 1700BC
>country holds gold and issues local currency based on gold holdings
>be 2100BC
>country holds btc and issues local currency based on btc holdings

>>510346301
Lmao dude your silver is still silver, they're devalued fiat is still non existent and relying on confidence. When the bubble pops, purchasing power will follow into things that actually exist.

>>510346111 (OP)
How will the cartels react when BTC inevitably collapse and they lose $$$ billions?

>>510347433
OK, I gotcha. Maybe a silly DCA strategy of 10 dollars a day would be better than.
>>510347444
I thought that 1 Satoshi was the final number. Then bit, then BTC? I'm very ignorant and uniformed however die to my past opinions on Crypto.
>>510347537
Most people on the planet can't. If you have 100 dollars are no debt you are unironiclly richer than 80% of the planet.

>>510346111 (OP)
Looooool the dollar is down so even though bitcoin looks like it's going up, it's actually down in real term value, and this is why the rich elite continue to scam you because you cucks refuse to understand math.

>>510347560
criminals prefer dollar. only retards and desperate people get scammed by crapto brahhhhhs

I found a free BTC website in 2009-2010 and didn't know how to receive the coin. No wallet. What do you say to that? I could have gotten 1 coin but didn't have the necessary knowledge.

>just be born earlier into a smarter, wealthier family!

>>510347546
>you are trying to sell it
You can't afford my bags. I wouldn't worry about that.

>>510347505
>Creating gold is an energy issue,
good luck building a supernova machine on earth dude. imma just gonna create an element with 158 protons an split it in half to make gold.

>>510346111 (OP)
>crypto slop
And praise the Ponzi schemers and rug pullers apparently

>>510347647
Are you Indian
>Sar my bag is sooooooooooo expansive
>you buy for many dollar sars
>you not have dollars sar
>You cant buy my bag sar
again, you dont use it, you try to sell it, and I'm not buying

>>510347624
>2017
20k
>2025
120k

Bitcoin has vastly outperformed US inflation, you're a pea brained nigger who can't into mathematics but larps as smart

>>510347537
you can buy a fraction of a bitcoin

>>510347560
>implying BTC will collapse

Ngmi nocoiner. Cartels been in BTC since 4 digits. They're not retards.

Hard money wins. Fiat dies. Simple as.

Have fun staying poor.

>>510347604
>Maybe a silly DCA strategy of 10 dollars a day would be better than.
nothing silly about that strategy it's absolutely solid.

>>510347679
>>510346111 (OP)
>crypto slop
>Ponzi schemers and rug pullers

Only a brainlet conflates Bitcoin with shitcoin scams.

Bitcoin is hard money, fixed supply. Shitcoins are VC-funded ponzis.

I don't defend your "crypto" garbage. I defend sound money that central bankers can't debase.

Read Satoshi's whitepaper instead of CNBC, wagecuck.

Bitcoin is inevitable. State currencies are the real ponzi.

>>510347552
>be archeaologist in 2000AD
>find ancient gold coin
>immediately recognize it's value
>be archeaologist in 3000AD
>find rusty hdd with unrecoverable data
>place it in a warehouse as random exhibit #246236

>>510347708
2011 30 cents
2013 1000 dollars

you are the greatest fools. playing V of Vs instead of Is and IIIs. ahahahahahaha

at least the AI fags are in the III of V and have a product that is actually used

Am I the only person that just thinks crypto could be a big jewish scam?
They get all the people who don't trust fiat to buy in, then the feds use quantum computers to steal all their money. Idk man, it just scares me.

>>510347686
kek you're SEETHING so hard

imagine being poor and hating on an asset that you don't even own (or understand), What a pathetic life

>>510346111 (OP)
If bitcoin is so great and making people rich why do so many incels own it?

If you tell any white women you buy bitcoin she will laugh at you and refuse to date you

>>510347553
That's why I was a huge Silver hoarder for 10 years. There is a dhortage and the price is very much manipulated.
>>510347638
Just be rich isn't the answer, Lanning wealth is.
>>510347679
While I'd agree crypto could be run by the jew I'd more say otherwise since most are lost to tune or in wallets that are locked forever in lost hardware. It's why I always said it was just a scam ran by criminals.
>>510347730
Doesn't it have large fees on regulated platforms?


Also wow. The sheer amount of shill posting is making me actually want to buy out of spite actually.

>>510347779
>>510347779

>Am I the only person that just thinks crypto could be a big jewish scam?

Bitcoin != "crypto". Shitcoins are scams, Bitcoin is the hardest money ever created.

>quantum computers
Quantum FUD is retarded. Bitcoin can fork to quantum-resistant algorithms if needed. SHA256 isn't broken by current quantum approaches anyway.

>They get all the people who don't trust fiat to buy in
The actual scam is fiat money printed endlessly by central banks. That's the real theft.

Bitcoin was created to escape the banking system, not reinforce it.

Stop with the /pol/ tier conspiracy bullshit and understand the tech. Bitcoin fixes this.

>>510347785
why should I seeth? 354M dollars between 2011 and 2021. I'm glad retards like you bought that worthless crap. Now use it - you wont, because it has no use case and all attempts to make it useful failed - now its a third degree derivative of US Treasuries

>>510347759
the data is on the chain you stupid bubble fuck. if the entirety of blockchain data is on one HD that someone buries in a hole, i agree, in that situation we're fucked.

>>510347827
>>510346111 (OP) (OP)
>If bitcoin is so great and making people rich why do so many incels own it?

Imagine caring what normies think about your investments. Peak reddit logic.

>If you tell any white women you buy bitcoin she will laugh at you

Yeah, now. When BTC hits 1M they'll be begging for your seed phrase instead of your seed.

Women follow money and status. Always have. The same thots laughing now will be on your dick when your stack makes you wealthy.

The real incels are the wagecucks watching their fiat evaporate while crying about "muh bitcoin nerds."

Stack sats. Disregard females. Acquire currency.

>>510346111 (OP)
It'sliterally propped up by blackrock. That's why altcoins are dead

>>510347717
Most people are behind the curve.
And a lot of events are predetermined, out of anyone's control.
What are you going to do with your coins when the Encryption algorithms get broken by supercomputers? When AI takes away everyone's job and the starvation begins? \

Do you own a bunker somewhere like a billionaire? If not, you are NGMI. It's either become a billionaire or lose everything. Nobody is going to stop climate change, which is certain to destroy Western civilizations.

>>510347848
>I'm glad retards like you bought that worthless crap.
u good bro?

>>510347851
The "chain" won't make it to the 22nd century, you stupid nigger, that was the point.

>>510347845
the whales holding the vast majority of bitcoins are litteraly the banksters, you moron

>>510347914
>Encryption algorithms get broken by supercomputers
Pure FUD. Bitcoin can upgrade to quantum-resistant algorithms when needed. Protocol can adapt, fiat can't.

>AI takes away everyone's job and starvation begins
Luddite cope. Same shit they said about industrial revolution. AI increases productivity. Bitcoin is AI-resistant money.

>Do you own a bunker somewhere like a billionaire?
I own Bitcoin, which is better than a bunker. Portable wealth that survives societal collapse.

>climate change destroying Western civilizations
More doomer porn. Bitcoin miners will use stranded energy and incentivize nuclear. Bitcoin fixes energy markets too.
Defeatist mindset = ngmi. Bitcoin is the lifeboat, not another victim.
Stay poor, stay scared.

>>510347845

Refute the holoshlock real quick

>>510347940
yes, sure. But I want YOU to be the final baggies. you bought my crap, now keep it

>>510346111 (OP)
>big number means big value
simbabwe and germany 1923 were the richest places in history cause big number means value

>>510347845
>the whales holding the vast majority of bitcoins are litteraly the banksters
Absolute brainlet take. Exchange cold wallets ≠ "banksters"

Most BTC whale wallets are exchanges, miners, and early adopters, not JPMorgan execs.

Even if some bankers own BTC, who gives a fuck? They can't change the 21M cap or protocol rules.

That's the whole point of Bitcoin you smoothbrain - rules without rulers. Doesn't matter who owns it when no one can print more.
Same FUD for 10+ years while distribution improves every halving.
Keep coping with your boomer bank stocks while we stack the hardest money ever created.

>>510346559
I have .016 because a crypto bro said the same thing about having at least .01. wish I had grabbed a little bit more but oh well

>>510347975
>more fiat vs shitcoin (((false dichotomy))).

Refute the holoshlock, subhuman

>>510347829
>Doesn't it have large fees on regulated platforms?
shop around, i'm not savvy on current fees. i've not purchase btc since 2017. you do however need to understand the difference between leaving your holdings on an exchange or in a wallet that only you control. if you're buying $10 a day you can buy from multiple places. then move it to a wallet ONLY YOU control when you feel it's too much to leave on the exchange.

>>510347944
>The "chain" won't make it to the 22nd century
the chain isn't on one HDD you stupid bubble fuck.

>>510347975
>I own Bitcoin, which is better than a bunker. Portable wealth that survives societal collapse.
ahahahahaha

>>510347717
>>510347914

> Hard money wins. Fiat dies. Simple as.
> Have fun staying poor.
> It's either become a billionaire or lose everything.

That zero sum mindset is so cringe kek. If there’s anything sure to bet on in this life, it’s the certainty of human retardation, which prevents anyone from having absolute control over everyone else.

>>510347975
Nice glowing. Fed posting won't make your shitcoins worth more.
This isn't about your /pol/ garbage. This is about math and code that can't be corrupted.
Bitcoin is monetary physics. Doesn't care about your identity politics or conspiracy theories.
21 million cap. Decentralized. Permissionless. That's what matters.
Take your schizo meds and focus on what's important: escaping the fiat trap.

>>510347975
I already lost the game of life.
You think it can all be avoided by having some Bitcoin?
Let me ask : Why are billionaires making underground bunkers? Will people who hold some Bitcoin be wealthy enough to survive what billionaires are preparing for? No, unless BTC goes above one million dollars per coin.

I know what it's like to be a loser and have grown accustomed to it.

>>510348116

>zero sum mindset is so cringe
Bitcoin isn't zero-sum, brainlet. It's positive-sum technology. Everyone can win by escaping fiat debasement.

Fiat is the actual zero-sum game where central banks steal from everyone through inflation.

>human retardation prevents anyone from having absolute control
That's literally Bitcoin's whole fucking point. No central control. No one can change the rules. Not even "human retardation" can break math.
This isn't about "controlling everyone" - it's about a neutral money protocol that works regardless of human failings.
You're criticizing Bitcoin while accidentally describing why it works.
Keep buying your CBDC shitcoins if you want to be controlled.

>>510348017
the whales can totally manipulate bitcoin's chart since they hold the majority of the bitcoin in circulation which they actually do, nice try shlomo

>>510347975
and yet it sucks as data management system no matter what. Either its slow, unsecure or expensive, or all three together - but compared to any other data management system and messaging system it sucks.
When there is the question what dms to use for any project, crapto is always the worst choice

AI wins, crapto is going to be a footnote that only nerds remember 10 years down the line

>>510348017
>no one can print more

Only, you can make literally infinite permutations of 'bitcoin'. Bitcoin is just a fucking kike brand with a fuckload of advertising behind it

>multiple corn threads on /pol/
thinkin its time to sell

>>510346111 (OP)
>dollar loses 14%
>Bitcoin "gains" 14%
WAOW! To the moon!

>>510348133

>I already lost the game of life
With that mentality, of course you did.

>You think it can all be avoided by having some Bitcoin?
Not "some" - stack as much as possible. Bitcoin is financial sovereignty.

>Why are billionaires making underground bunkers?
Same reason they're buying Bitcoin - to protect against the collapse of the current system.

>unless BTC goes above one million dollars per coin
It will. With 21M coins and global wealth seeking a safe haven, $1M/BTC is conservative.

>I know what it's like to be a loser
Your choice. Bitcoin rewards long-term thinking and discipline. Losers have neither.
The real bunker is self-custody Bitcoin. Financial sovereignty > physical bunkers.
Stop being a doomer and start stacking.

>>510348167
Whales can create short-term volatility, not change long-term fundamentals. Every market has whales. Distribution improves every cycle as paper hands sell to diamond hands.

Bitcoin's daily volume is billions. Too big to manipulate long-term now.

>>510348177
Bitcoin isn't a "data management system" you absolute mong. It's hard money.

>crapto is always the worst choice
Bitcoin ≠ shitcoin "crypto" projects. It's monetary energy, not a fucking database.

>AI wins
AI needs energy. Bitcoin is monetary energy. They're complementary, not competitors.

>>510348183
>infinite permutations
How's BCash doing? BSV? All the forks failed.
Network effect matters. Can't copy Bitcoin's security, decentralization, and immutability.
Make all the shitcoins you want. Only one has the liquidity, security and 15+ year track record.

>>510348090
I know what the blockchain is, you retarded midwit.
The average HDD has a lifespan of 5 years.
40% of web content that existed in 2013 doesn't exist anymore. Can you fathom that?
The chances of bitcoin making it to the next century are extremely slim.

>>510346474
>Lmao is this some sort of new FUD?
some sort, but it's so hairbrained i don't think they even know what they're trying to do
they've really run out of people to do this, and jeets can only spam old tropes

>>510348222
keep an eye on international normal faggot yellow press. Somebody paid a lot of dough to have July be an advertising month for crapto all over msm - this scam is so transparent by now its even boring to keep up with it.

>>510346111 (OP)

https://youtu.be/L8NcAqithXU

(((Bitcoin))) is fake and gay

Why are you working?

I just made Latvia's monthly salary in 2 days..

>>510348261
With 21M coins and global wealth seeking a safe haven, $1M/BTC is conservative.
That's cool. I will be able to buy a loaf of bread with it by then.

>>510348261
muh revolutionary money that's only used for speculation, fuck off shlomo

>>510348261
>Can't copy Bitcoin's security, decentralization, and immutability

Complete and utter kikeshit lol

Refute the holoshlock, subhuman

>>510346440
>bought in 2017
Same.
Funny how btc increased in value for some reason massively after Charlottesville march event.

>>510348363
>>510348363

>only used for speculation

Tell that to:
- El Salvadorans using it as legal tender
- Argentinians escaping 200% inflation
- Millions using Lightning for instant payments
- Billions in settlement daily on base layer
- Russians bypassing sanctions
- Africans with no banking access

You think this is a fucking game? While you're shitposting, Bitcoin processes more value than Visa.
Not my fault you only see NGU and not the global monetary revolution.
Actual plebs using it as money while western brainlets call it "speculation".
This isn't about ethnicity, it's about math. Money printer go brrr = you get poorer.

>>510348261
>network effect
ahahahahahahaha
2013 wants its narrative back. As far as I'm aware the sales narrative to get retards to buy authentication token on non used dms is that "insdidutions" buy worthless bags.

>>510346111 (OP)

>>510348367
Glow harder, fed.
Not falling for your bait. This is about Bitcoin, not your obvious honeypot bullshit.
Bitcoin has 15+ years of uptime, the strongest hash rate, and widest distribution. No alt has matched this.
If you could copy Bitcoin's security, some shitcoin would have flipped it by now. None have. Network effects are real.
Focus on the tech or gtfo. I'm here to discuss unstoppable money, not your /pol/ garbage.

>>510348270
it's being backed up onto new HDs all the time. you could set up a node today and back it up. the reason that web content doesn't exist is because the original servers got taken down an jews are always trying to fuck over the internet archive. that web content existed in one place an was destroyed when that one place disappeared. the blockchain exists in multiple places and it doesn't really matter if one of the places it exists is destroyed.

>>510346111 (OP)
BREAKING

BITCOIN HAS BEEN HACKED
BITCOIN HAS BEEN HACKED
BITCOIN HAS BEEN HACKED

https://www.cyphertux.net/articles/en/research/ecdsa-nonces-lattice-attacks-bitcoin-exploit

>>510348434
>>510348434

>2013 wants its narrative back
Network effect is stronger than ever, retard. $1T+ market cap, adopted by nations, corps holding it on balance sheets, ETFs approved.

>authentication token on non used dms
Tell me you don't understand Bitcoin without telling me. It's not a "messaging system" - it's the hardest money ever created.

>worthless bags
Yeah, so worthless that Blackrock, Fidelity, and literal sovereign nations are accumulating.
Your cope is showing.
Keep using your rapidly depreciating fiat shitcoin while institutions front-run you into Bitcoin.
The fact you're still fighting it in 2025 proves you're ngmi.

>>510348261
Shit are you retarded. Of course its a dms.
That is the entire sales pitch at the bottom, an immutable data management system, only that it sucks as its state changes are eother slow, unsecure or expensive.
>Hard money
fuck are you a retard

>>510348517

>Of course its a dms
Absolute brainlet take. Bitcoin's blockchain is a means to an end, not the end itself.

It's like saying gold is just a "shiny rock management system" instead of understanding it's fucking money.

The data structure exists to secure the monetary properties: scarcity, immutability, decentralization.

>That is the entire sales pitch
Wrong. The whitepaper literally starts with "peer-to-peer electronic CASH system"

>slow, unsecure or expensive
$20B daily settlement for pennies on the dollar. Lightning for micropayments. 15 years unbreakable security.
You're stuck on "blockchain technology" while missing the entire fucking point of what makes Bitcoin valuable.
Stay poor, nocoiners always do.

>>510348512
>Money
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
tell me that you are a socialist mongoloid without telling me you are a socialist mongoloid.
I'm so glad I dumped this crap when it became painfully obvious in 21 that nobody is going to solve the even most basic technical shortcomings, neither by patchwork nor at the root.

fucking idiots!

If Bitcoin has inherent value, explain to me why the only reason you're interested in it is how much USD it's worth.
If you hate the USD so much, why do you only care about Bitcoin when its worth more USD?

Holy moly the amount of shills in here is insane

>>510348428
bitcoin's price is artificially propped up by USDT which is magic jewish printer money equivalent to the USD printed by the fed

you'll only foul the low iq nigger cattle goyim, shlomo, nice try tho

>>510348592
>dumped this crap in 21
>calls ME the mongoloid

Imagine selling before the biggest bull run in history and bragging about it. Absolute peak retardation.

>socialist
Bitcoin is literally the most capitalist, free-market money ever created. Fixed supply. No central control. Can't be printed.

>basic technical shortcomings
Like what? 100% uptime for 15+ years. Lightning scaling for instant payments. Taproot. What "shortcomings" weren't solved?
The only technical shortcoming is your fucking brain, anon.
You sold the hardest money ever created to hold melting ice cubes called fiat. Now you're coping on 4chan.
Have fun staying poor.

>>510347845
The quantum computers they tell us about arent as good as the ones they dont tell us about.

Idk man, assets and investments go up more than fiat. Owning fiat is stupid. But this crypto bubble has jews guaranteeing it, land and stocks atleast have jews that back it. I trust investments with jews involved, unironically. They won't rig pull the tribe... right?

>>510348428
Why do you waste time arguing with old boomer retard sexpats ?
They are too dumb to even understand a chart or a graph.

I look forward to the 150k BTC seethe threads soon.

Comfy times.

>>510348459

You're a jew (or the stupidest cunt on /pol). I hope all of you subhumans get gassed for real

>>510346301
Literally same...

>>510348599
>>510348599

>If Bitcoin has inherent value, explain to me why the only reason you're interested in it is how much USD it's worth

Basic brainlet question. I measure BTC in USD because we're in the transition phase, retard.

We price everything in USD today because it's the current unit of account. When hyperbitcoinization happens, 1 BTC = 1 BTC.

The inherent value is:
- Can't be printed to infinity
- Can't be seized
- Can't be censored
- Fixed supply of 21M
- Permissionless
- Self-sovereign

USD price is just adoption metric, not the goal. It's the escape hatch from fiat slavery.

I care about sat stacking, not dollar gains. The dollar is dying. Each sat is a piece of freedom.

>>510348574
>is a means to an end
religious lunatic
>it's fucking money.
money is an abstract concept you absolute mongo. crapto as in the satoshi model, Byzantine models, DAG...... are distributed data management systems and the shit you spend dollars, euros, debt in those currencies on are authentication token to initiate state changes
>"peer-to-peer electronic CASH system"
which is a specialized dms, and it frankly sucks at being a dms for a currency, and all patch work attempts to solve it from colored coins to n+1 layer to block enlargemtns to seg wit non solved the core issues

>>510347827
>If bitcoin is so great and making people rich why do so many incels own it?
More incels own fiat that Bitcoin.
Most incels don't own Bitcoin.

>>510348512
>kike gangster orgs like bitcoin, so it's good

Stupid fucking subhuman

>>510348633
>capitalist
that word doesnt exist outside of marxist religious dogma
>Taproot
tell me in 10 words what you belive taproot is
go on, no AI

>>510348574
>year is 2030 or 2035
>USD is worth virtually nothing
>People are leaving the U.S. and heading for Europe
>Bitcoin worth over 1 million dollars per coin

>Year is 2040
>Western world has lost a lot of population
>Robots are everywhere
>Robots mostly replacing humans due to advances in AI. Humans can't colonize the stars, only robots / AI can do that.
>Humans can barely live anywhere on Earth because of climate change

Yeah I know it's FUD. But really, that's what will happen in the next 10-15 years. Humans can't keep up with the changes created by technology, and low birth rates prove this.

I hope you will have a great time and so will every other "guy who made it" due to having hoarded Bitcoin

>>510348717
>>510348717

>religious lunatic
Says the fiat cultist who believes paper backed by nothing has value.

>money is an abstract concept
No shit. And Bitcoin fulfills the properties of money better than fiat:
- Store of value: Fixed supply vs infinite printing
- Medium of exchange: Lightning enables instant payments
- Unit of account: Coming after mass adoption

>specialized dms
You're obsessed with the plumbing instead of the water. The blockchain is the means, not the end.

>all patch work attempts
Lightning works. 1sat/byte fees work. Taproot works. Ordinals work.
You're stuck in 2017 technical debates while Bitcoin keeps evolving.
Tech nerds focus on commits. Monetary experts focus on the policy. Bitcoin wins on both.

>>510348500
>it's being backed up onto new HDs all the time
for now
> the blockchain exists in multiple places and it doesn't really matter if one of the places it exists is destroyed
It doesn't matter when the copies are so sensitive to entropy. It's not stored on clay tablets.

>>510348775


>that defeatist doomer porn
Some of this might happen, some won't. Either way, Bitcoin still matters.

>USD collapse
Exactly why you need hard money. Bitcoin survives currency collapses.

>AI replacing humans
Machines need energy. Energy needs fair pricing. Bitcoin fixes energy markets.

>climate change
Nuclear + Bitcoin mining creates energy abundance, not scarcity.

Bitcoin isn't just about "hoarding" or "making it" - it's about creating a parallel system that works when the legacy one fails.
The alternative is CBDC slavery, digital prison, and having nothing while being "happy".
At least with Bitcoin you have options. Without it, you're just a serf waiting to die.
Stack sats or cope. Those are the only choices in the world that's coming.

The problem I have with bitcoin is the total lack of fungibility. I guess if you're trying to 'save' money I get it, but I like to have my funds accessible and easy to use.

>>510348711
>transition phase

Yeah, the currency of the future is JEW BONES, subhuman

>>510348819
>>510348787
Based. lmao
Do you use grok for this?

>>510348787
you are assuming retard. Currency has its use cases, and it is used, your authentication token are like literally used furniture boomers trade. In your bubble it has a value, as long yas you find a retard that gives you something that has actual value for it
>USE MY authentication token
>Buy into my pyramid scheme
no
>its works
no it really doesnt - tell me how often have you used "lightining" I take a wild guess and say 0 times

>>510348836
Another issue is security, i downloaded the bitcoin app to buy some and it comes with a warning to make sure I don't save large amounts in the app, so now I have to find a "cold storage" option. Who has time for all this shit. Way too many steps.

>>510348907
>Currency has its use cases
Yes, and Bitcoin does them better. Harder money, better settlement, can't be frozen or censored.

>your authentication token
You keep using this meaningless phrase. Bitcoin is the most secure monetary network in history.

>pyramid scheme
Classic brainlet take. Pyramid schemes collapse, Bitcoin's been growing for 15+ years. Every "bubble" higher than the last.

>how often have you used "lightining"
Daily, retard. Strike app, Phoenix wallet, BTCPay Server. Instant payments, near-zero fees.
Used it to pay for VPN, Bitrefill gift cards, Fold card rewards, tipping, and merchant payments.
You're the furniture boomer - stuck using legacy finance while the world moves to Bitcoin.
In 2025 still thinking Lightning "doesn't work" is peak Dunning-Kruger.

>>510348907
look, you’re missing the point, retard. bitcoin ain’t just “used furniture” or some shitcoin authentication token. It’s hard money, 21 million cap, no one can print more, unlike your precious fiat that’s been devalued to shit since forever. you think currency’s just for buying coffee? bitcoin’s a hedge against central bank fuckery— inflation’s eating your dollars at 5% a year, minimum. you’re the one in a bubble, trusting banks that freeze accounts when govs say jump.

>510348971
yeah, you cant even formulate a thought without AI - and explaining taproot in 10 words, impossible for you. You are the best anti shill for crapto, because you are what crapto is, a failure

>>510348971
>Bitcoin's been growing for 15+ years

Yeah, because kikes keep pumping it, (((fuckface)))

Who created it, by the way, (((arsewipe)))?

>>510347203
I bought property and 10xd my money. Im lucky I didnt buy bitcoin. Started with 150k. Now have 1.5m in property. I have debt of 500k.

>>510348991
its used furniture
I made out like a bandit hoping that the issues would be solved, but they are unsolvable - so go on, be the greatest fool in a failed pyramid scheme from the 00s

>>510348711
Uh huh. I smell your bullshit from across the ocean. Your actual goal is to get rich enough from being "early" to an appreciating asset that you can retire and live the comfy life. Once Bitcoin made you enough USD you won't care anymore where this stupid shit goes because you'll have enough money to do everything you want without having to work. That's why pajeets push their stupid coins so hard, it's just another strategy in the rat race to get rich or die trying. You don't actually give a fuck about some theoretical future where you pay for your food with Bitcoin. You just want enough USD to be rich. I see right through you bullshitters.

>>510346111 (OP)
Things you can buy with bitcoin:
People that spend bitcoin as actual currency instead of hoarding it:

>>510349048
Oi, mate, you reckon Bitcoin’s just a (((pump))) scheme? 15 years of growth, outpacing every asset class, ain’t no kike conspiracy, it’s math. Fixed 21 million cap, no central bank shite printing more to screw you. Fiat’s the real scam, Aussie dollars down 80% since the 70s.

>>510348508
/thread

>>510349048
>arsewipe
That's one I haven't heard in a while.

>>510348991

The only way to stop being fleeced by filthy jews is to remove every single one of them and redistribute the wealth they have stolen from White nations

Stick your shitcoins up your analcunt

>>510349135
>analcunt
Saw them live once (they weren't that good desu).

>>510349064
I bought weapons parts and ammo 20x my money now.

>>510348274
OP claimed they are not in crypto, while they are the major players since the first cycle.

>>510347655
I think his point was the cost of mining and refining it anon... unless you stumble over a big nugget after a rainstorm somewhere, the time, knowledge, resources, and energy per gram extracted will be substantial. Mining bitcoin now, and many other coins, also have a substantial cost.

>>510349174

I thought it coined it. Well I'll be

>>510349119
>Fiat devalues
okay, so everything that has actually a use increases in value - crapto is worthless, used furniture of GenX

>>510349281
you cant even sit on that crap or burn it for heat, scrap it for resources or anything else - its the most worthless thing imaginable. Its funnily even more worthless than fiat

>>510349216
I mine with 1TH of hash power it's a 1 in 7,000,000 chance per day spending like 20 cents a day.

Maybe I'll find that nugget and get 400k :)

>>510349119

...and go fuck yourself with your fiat/shitcoin (((false dichotomy))), subhuman

>>510348797
>Some sources only calculate that there are just over 13,000 Bitcoin nodes.
lulz

>>510349352
thats the funny thing. The conspiracy tards that believe that buttcorn was actually Nash and some banksters trying to mask a top down currency reform as bottom up after the 2008 hickup might be onto something.

Only that they fucked up royally losing the narrative control and political capital after the 20/21 bail outs to initiate the currency reform

>>510346111 (OP)
Thanks, but I'll stick with a crypto with real world use. Monero.

>>510349314
It's accepted worldwide and mined as a put option on kWh.

There's no other way to transfer value across the world as efficiently as Bitcoin.

Want to send kWh? you lose x % per miles of transmission line.
Want to send USD? you lose by the jewish capital controls
Want to send gold? Lol good luck protecting that shipment

There isn't any other way to own an asset and transfer it anywhere you want as securely or efficiently as Bitcoin.

>>510349352
oi, calm your tits, mate. ain't no false dichotomy here, just facts. fiat's a gov-controlled shitshow, printed to oblivion, devaluing your cash while you sleep. bitcoin's fixed supply, 21 mil cap, no one can inflate it to buggery. you call it shitcoin, but it’s outlasted every bank run and hyperinflation scam since '09. no middleman, no (((puppeteers))), just peer-to-peer code you can verify yourself. you wanna stay chained to central banks robbing you blind, that’s your funeral. bitcoin’s not perfect, but it’s a harder asset than your paper promises. go check the ledger, or keep screaming at shadows, your call.

>>510349456
and this is why the currency reform is never going to happen - n+1 scammers trying to sell their non used authentication tokens - atomization baby

>>510349320
Bitcoin to Gold Grams
To calculate how many grams of 24k gold one Bitcoin can buy at today's prices:

Bitcoin Price: As of today (July 14, 2025), the price of one Bitcoin (BTC) is approximately $118,479.57 USD.
24k Gold Price: The price of 24k (999 fine) gold is $108.30 per gram.
Using these values, we can calculate the amount of 24k gold that one Bitcoin can buy:

Grams of gold=
Price of 24k gold per gram
Bitcoin price in USD

=
108.30
118,479.57

≈1094.03grams

Thus, one Bitcoin can buy approximately 1094.03 grams of 24k gold at today's prices.

>>510349222
>I thought it coined it.
I'm afraid not - their discovery had already been etched in the anals of time.

>>510349529
I bought my first oz of gold for 5.5 BTC :(

Why is it going up so much, anything special happened?

>>510349488
>It's accepted worldwide
nope. I would give you anything for all 21 M buttcorns. Its worthless. Go on, go use it, without going through fiat, be it with a rehypothecization scam or whatever.

oh wait, using it is actually irrational. it failed. deal with it. Just switch to AI gambler, its in a 3o5 in a III of V, you are actually early

>>510349606
You don't have anything I want though?

>>510349682
well, I guess outside of some communist state forcing me to do business through your worthless crap token, we are never going to have any business to conduct. Good luck finding a greater fool

No thanks, not interested in pyramid schemes

>>510348017
>Most BTC whale wallets are exchanges, miners, and early adopters
so they become the new bankers
it doesn't solve the problem of existence of bankers

>>510349730
For you using Bitcoin will be like you speaking English.
It will be a necessity, unless you want to go back to your little village and live a insulated life.

The sounds of the shills in this thread
> Bitfucks are going to Zero!!
> Just wait till a solar flare...
> Just wait for CBDC...
> Just buy silver
> JP Morgan is not jewish, but silver
> Don't buy Bitcoin Buy Gold....
> Bitcoin is a scam
> Ponzy scheme
> Voting is real
> Get a job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26lQ8XSUuyw

>>510346111 (OP)
if you measure value of btc in usd instead of buying things with btc, then the central bankers actually have won, goyim.

>>510349216
once gold has been refined it's quite easy to keep it in that state though. that retard was definitely talking about making new gold. he'd probably heard about synthetic diamonds and thought it was the same thing.

>>510348428
>- El Salvadorans using it as legal tender
they abandoned the experiment
>- Argentinians escaping 200% inflation
most escapees are just stacking gold
>- Millions using Lightning for instant payments
>- Billions in settlement daily on base layer
>- Russians bypassing sanctions
black market and other illicit activity account for all these
this is actually the only use case for bitcoin
>- Africans with no banking access
and they account for what% of international GDP or equity capitalization?
right

>>510348633
>Bitcoin is literally the most capitalist, free-market money ever created. Fixed supply. No central control. Can't be printed.
no that would be gold

>>510349968
https://bitcointreasuries.net/

The dollar is collapsing so instead of holding USD balance corporations are holding BTC balance.

>>510349855
you are a religious fanatic, you religious fanatics of n+1 cults around perfectly substituable non used authentication token on wonky dms, which is extremely funny, as you claim universality while your crap is demonstratable extremely particular

crapto brahhs failed

>>510350023
>gold
lol, no.
all those fake gold sellers and paper gold backed by nothing. and it will be confiscated by your government in time of need.

>>510346479
>people should be ashamed of themselves
Why? They're not hirting anyone, or stealing money. I think you sound like you are sore you don't have my BTC. I think I remember you from the last thread. XRP is where it's at, right?
The anger, and hate the non BTC people have for BTC people is strange, and I get some major Stanley Cup vibes from it. One of my oldest friends hates BTC and he really HATES that I have some. I don't have a lot, but I have much more than most. The other day when it was 110k he messaged me about selling. It was crazy. He was talking about market liquidity, and how awesome it would be if everyone who had BTC went broke...
I told him
>please don't wish my only investment tanks...
He ignored me completely and just went on and on about how it could go to zero one day. I haven't messaged him about it since, but looking at the numbers, I think it's fair to assume he's big mad.
I have another friend who has an absolute massive amount of coins. If he gets rich, I'll get rich by proxy.
But yeah, why not wish for everyone to get rich? It doesn't hurt to not be so mad all the time.

>>510348787
>- Store of value: Fixed supply vs infinite printing
btc's been too volatile for this
>- Unit of account: Coming after mass adoption
too volatile

>>510346250
he says while evaluating bitcoin off by how much fiat he can buy with it. 80% of all crypto is in jew hands by the way. youre just the boomer 2.0 generation who gets little bit of breadcrumbs

>>510350136
what is it cultist?
>Gubermint soooo weak, crapto is going to make new gibermint
or
>gubermint soooo strong. Its goingto take away alllll your stuff
retard

you cant have both crapto fag

>>510350136
the government can shut down your internet and electricity and your meme coin disappears. at leat gold is a physical object you can pay with without any additional infrastructure being necessary.

>>510350175
unfortunately for them the demographic pyramid is now on its head - not enough collateral to dumb the risk and costs of today on in the future

Should I sell my 7.6K btc? Or continue to hodl

>>510350067
I'm sticking with Bitcoin, but idk how it's going to play out.

I was talking with my dad this morning about how people might react to BTC upsetting the global bond markets and how that'll de-fund entitlement programs (gibmedats)
It's going to put private property rights into question, lol.

I'm fully aware of what's going on and how sketchy everything is.
I'm going to hold these coins and bounce when my state collapses.

>>510350167
Bulls are lambs to the slaughter. You won't make any money and neither will your friends, Bitcoin is guaranteed to drop to 50k by Christmas. Screencap this.

>>510346111 (OP)
hey guise is Binance a good safe exchange to start my crypto adventure and become a multimillionaire?

>>510350297
Then you are stupider than I thought.
its not going to be greek 2013, bifinex, the US treasury and whoever consulted donald trump on this retardation made sure of it

>>510346987

>>510350414
What do you mean?

i personally like to invest on outcomes of sport matches

>>510350468
Figure it out - you are buying authentication token to initiate state changes on distributed data management systems that nobody uses

>>510350235
>gold is a physical object you can pay with without any additional infrastructure being necessary.
You need assay kits or a trustworthy mint
To use gold for an everyday purchase would require a very fine scale or using silver or some bullshit for change.

Day to day commerce with PM is pretty absurd when you look at Bitcoin and how you just need a QR code, it's 100% pure BTC verified by the blockchain, no funny business.

>>510346111 (OP)
I'm a nocoiner and missed the opportunity to buy. Time for me to rope I guess I refuse to stay poor for the rest of my life

>>510350555
Everyone in the world uses it though.
It's the only ledger that cannot be corrupted.
That's the entire point of it.

U.S. government just added 5.5 trillion in debt
Every government is under some sort of crisis and changing the rules.

Bitcoin is the only thing in the world that remains consistent in the face of rapidly changing environments.
A.I. will integrate with Bitcoin seamlessly.
A.I. isn't going to ask JP Morgan for permission.

You've missed the boat and are trusting boomers who fucked you over.

>>510350618
and? its irrational to use it, no matter how theoretically easy it is (it isnt for the wast majority of people deep into the 2050s) - oh you want the state to force it. communist!

>>510350728
>Everyone in the world uses it though.
no. its horded expecting a greater fool, preferably a fool that isnt born yet and is supposed to pay back debt and interest sometimes in the future. Oh wait the demographic pyramid looks kind of not fit for that kind of pyramid scheme for the next 60 years

>>510350173
>too volatile
my bitcoin has been consistently and inevitably appreciating in tandem with out of control expansion of USD M3
I don't give a shit about the daily or weekly or monthly valuation; I think annually
I told you niggers that it would make us all rich, and you laughed
who's laughing now?

>>510349599
Trump's pedo friends found out they're not going to be held accountable now so they're going all in

>>510350734
Why do you keep bringing up communists?

Nobody was ever forced to use Bitcoin, we've been discriminated against if anything.
In USA the banks still won't recognize BTC as an asset for collateral to get liquidity.
The jews want my BTC but I live within my means and refuse to sell it.

>>510350290
Hodl until $1M

>>510350187
your assumptions make you weak.
but please, never buy bitcoin. the moment you do, you've lost everything you stand for.

remember this message.

>>510350963
This Austria anon needs to never buy any BTC or he's a chicken shit.

>>510350350
Yeah, OK... HOWEVER my BTC was given to me, for nothing. From a guy who bought at way less than 50k. So when BTC crashes to 50k, I'll still be up. So will my friend.
I didn't think the
>Haha BTC crashed to 100k
meme was real, but here we are. I know you can't help yourself, sweety. They've done something to people to cause them to feel this amount of hate.
Oh and my friend will never be broke. Even if BTC fell to zero and remained there, he'll still have more money than you.

>>510347191
>It doesn't matter what any pleb does anymore. Institutional onboarding has begun regardless.
So much this. All the /pmg/tards from /biz/ keep spouting "not gonna be your exit liquidity!" and refuse to acknowledge that (1) the ETFs are buying 2.8X the newly-created supply on average, and (2) the "Bitcoin treasury" companies are buyong over 4X the newly-created supply. Daily averages.

We saw the same dynamic in late 2020 when PayPal suddenly allowed people to buy BTC on their PayPal accounts. The volume of money flooding in, when Bitcoin was at $10,000/BTC, meant that the price would have to go over $50K to balance inflows and outflows. The price hit $60K in late March of 2021.

With today's inflows the price will have to reach $300K to balance the inflows from just the ETFs. You can track those on a daily basis at https://farside.co.uk/btc/ , they're not some deeply hidden secret.

What's been holding the price down is that lots of whales are selling since BTC is at the psychologically important level of "holy crap it's over $100K!" But those sellers are drying up now, which is why the price jumped. That will unlock new sellers, until they run out too, and the price will jump again. It's going to take a couple of years to flush out all the "wow I doubled my money, time to diversify!" types but Bitcoin has reached the mass adoption stage at last.

>>510350931
>Oh look the [insert word of supposed enemy on platform] dont like it
>ou must buy my bag
so you fell for it, well you probably as well fell for the coof sharade and didnt figure out it was just a kabucki to mask a bail out. Buttcorn is a top down communist currency reform that was initiated in 2008 and was supposed to be legitimized bottom up so you accept it. Guess it worked with you, luckily there are n+1 substitutes for practically 0 costs, so outside of enforcement the plan failed

32 was the first top, for a good reason, boomers like their numbers

>>510346111 (OP)
kek
it's the central bankers that will want to make BTC illegal to force people to use their new Federal Reserve debt-backed stablecoin tokens
pic related is the newly introduced clarity act
the SEC and CFTC will decide internationally what rules to use

Don't fucking kid your selves.
BTC provides four functions for the Fed:
1 the destruction of private, non-stablecoin crypto use as a currency
2 a potential global financial crisis
3 BTC market price arbitrage to give one last fleecing to boomers fleeing the Federal Reserve Note
4 normalization and adoption of tokenization to force everyone into using the Fed’s new debt-backed stable coin tokens

>>510350350
>You won't make any money and neither will your friends
LOL. You're posting from Puerto Rico, which low-information newbies think is a Bitcoin tax haven.

Honey, I put $3000 in in 2015. I've already cashed out something like $70,000. Now I only have a bit over $1,000,000 of BTC left in my wallet. I've already made money.

>>510351205
>central bankers that will want to make BTC illegal

>>510350963
>dont buy my bag
I sold you your bag, I dont want it back

>>510351240
>I've already made money.
and done nothing of value
sadly, today people think this is a good thing

>>510351162
I fell for it.

From college drop out to 1% in USA, I'm doomed I guess ;P

>>510346250
You never used btc to buy anyting fagot. You are the fiat system. Probably hold it on goybase as well

XMR bros on the other hand...

>>510351243
>>central bankers that will want to make BTC illegal
<<<---lol

>>510351250
>bags
would be hilarious if you're one and the same.
seething for years and years.

>BTC is not a claim to any real resources
this is the Fed

>>510351319
Monero is a shitcoin that hasn't made a new ATH since 2017

Bitcoin is KING and will continue raping Monero in sats value. There is no second best

>>510351298
you sold? Have invested in productive capital? At least diversified into value in currency that is not dependent on a Hong Kong registered bad bank?
I doubt it, you sound like the cultists that were supposed to be brainwashed - luckily you are a minority, and for a currency reform one either need a majority or a force - states lack both

>>510351383
>>central bankers that will want to make BTC illegal
and this is the ECB, lol

>>510346775
>is tarded
>pretends to understand the complexities of financial instruments
everyones a real pro bank manager since the big short huh?
>>510347408
okay now THIS is midwittery

Its great. I have 3.5 bands. On the way to getting that $5k down payment for a new vehicle lease!

>>510351361
nope
other austrian. Austrian inflation was very good to me.
>Buy my bag
nope, you bought the bag now go and dosomething with it - sorry no bigger fool than you left to just buy it for "it goes up"

>>510349858
Butcoins can be divided into smaller and smaller units. Sounds awfully familiar to me.

>>510351509
Another bag seller - tell me how often have you used it outside of selling it to a greater fool? like for productive capital - nobody selling productive capital wants your authentication token? Well bad investment then

kek this is a power pint by the Fed for the type of DLT they would have
guess which side the Fed wants?

>>510351550
such a fool.
spending this amount of energy in a thread about something you don't like. hope you're being paid, the alternative would be quite pathetic.

LOL

>>510350187
He is a retarded marine probably stationed in Okinawa so his opinion is retarded and thus irrelevant.
>>510350963
What color of crayon are you eating today you slack jawed retard? Crypto is a huge rugpull and silver chads are the true winners.

>>510346111 (OP)
>not buying gold
>not buying silver
you're all going to wish you had. i would recommend you get your money out of the fake Bitcoin and buy real things with it.

funny how the BTC logo is always gold colored. perhaps done intentionally to lure more people into this obvious ponzi?

>>510351635
you write like a genuine retard
I've used it to purchase things yes
I used to use it to buy cheap supermarket vouchers then refund the products for cash, then convert the cash for bitcoin and buy more of it, back in the good ole days of og silkroad
I currently have none :)
only a dumb ass would deny bitcoin is a major success, sperg all you want about it

crypto is fine if it is in cold wallets

A reminder, Federal Reserve Notes are what are being issued to worthless oblivion and
>the US dollar is a fucking UNIT

We need to AGAIN issue debt-free, Treasury-issued US Notes like we did before (and during) the bloodsucking, obsolete Federal Reserve. We need to AGAIN issue debt-free US Notes that are pegged to a basket of commonly-used weighted commodities, distributed by a series of state banks.

We can:
1 nationalize Fed banks
OR
2 dissolve Fed and have a series of state banks
OR
3 issue US Notes simultaneously AGAIN and eventually recycle worthless Federal Reserve Notes out of circulation
OR
4 YOU CAN RIGHT NOW: use cash/barter/stack/use credit unions/use cold wallets, these five things IMMEDIATELY transfer power directly to the people

USE CASH, NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN, cash IMMEDIATELY puts the power in the hands of the people.

Real paper cash:
>is permissionless
>is private
>is anonymous
>has no transaction fees
>works in power outages
>doesn’t need the internet
>don't need to be a coder to use it
>doesn't depend on another party having a device
>everyone knows exactly how much they have
>has no transaction limits or thresholds for reporting
>money laundering is harder with physical cash, due to transport
>is inclusive, it does not see race
>is harder to use in ransoms
>can’t be hacked
>don’t need to remember a password to use it
>IS the ultimate in payment platforms
>using cash helps people to save money and budget
>puts the power directly in the hands of the people
>keeps the currency near the REAL goods and services
>less paperwork
>is face to face, not face to screen
>makes government theft harder
>using cash forces the debt-based Federal Reserve to serve the citizens

Boycott businesses that do not take cash.
NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY.
Barter is the real torpedo to these fucking clowns.

>>510351685
I have enough capital and cashflow for three digit life times, and you are desperate baggies sitting on a failed attempt at a currency reform from back in the 00s - getting lurker to think twice about buying your bag of perfectly subtituable digital tokens is a community service

now go and write an article for some blog. Somebody is paying big times in July to get normal faggots to buy

>>510350384
I haven't heard anything bad about it, but they've been mostly blocked from the U.S. market, so I dunno really.

Kraken and Gemini both seem ok. Personally I would avoid Coinbase because they have horrible customer service, bad security, and high fees.

>>510346111 (OP)
bitcoin is centralized and tamed, dumb shitskin

>>510346111 (OP)
Sell it cazzo. Sell your funny money while you can.

Money is often falsely equated with productivity, intelligence, class, success, integrity, and/or good taste.
If you equate success with money, you will likely be perpetually dissatisfied, in a constant state of longing.

But if you VALUE THINGS WHICH CANNOT BE BOUGHT, such as:
community
family
work ethic
intellect
fitness
perseverance
cleanliness
honesty
integrity
compassion
tradition
loyalty
reliability
patience
humor
If you value the above, you will always be content and successful, no matter where you are or what you do.
Judge yourself by deed, not possession.

Money does not make food.
Labor, Seeds, Land, Air, Sun, and Water make food— we have ALL of these things WITHOUT fucking money. If you remove JUST ONE of these items, YOU WILL NOT HAVE FUCKING FOOD.
MONEY DOES NOTHING BUT ACT AS A QUANTIFIER FOR FUCKING TRADE.
We cannot have unearned income AT THE EXPENSE OF earned income. Finance must be the servant of production, not its master.

>>510346624
Bitcoin is worse than gold in every possible metric.
Every argument for bitcoin is a better argument for gold.
Bitcoin is a ponzi without state backing.
Bitcoin is inherently deflationary, far worse so than gold.

>>510348377
Unite The Right at Charlottesville was suspicious leaders tricking a bunch of dupes into walking into a trap. The Cops and National Guard funneled them into their enemies and charged the Unite The Right crowd with hate crimes for defending themselves. They have nothing to do with Bitcoin. If you aren't suspicious of Bitcoin or able to issue it yourself, you shouldn't be shilling it. You don't even know who the primary issuer and show runner is. But I'm sure we will all see a ton of cheerful stupidity and self righteous indignation on all the Bitcoin threads.

>>510351815
nah, writing is for fags.
but i seems you lack understanding what are building blocks of international finance. read up on it, it might finally click why bitcoin is so valuable.

boasting about your capital position is quite small. nouveau riche i'm sure.

>>510351726
silver is the OG stablecoin true if thats what you want great
there are numerous uses out of numerous investments whodathunkit?!
houses provide security, silver stability, cash is liquid, debt can be leveraged and bitcoin is a hedge for fiat
>>510351761
>you're all going to wish you had
says the doomsayer
but yeah hedging is obviously a good idea, small amount of gold and silver - a treasure chest of gold is just retarded though

>>510351946
glow brighter communist

>>510351942
this

>>510351967
>building blocks of pyramid schemes
yes that are blocks, or rather expected blocks of collateral value, at the very base the expected reproduction and productivity rate in the future in relation to the debt+interests.

Boomer style pyramid schemes of "eating now, somebody else children pay later" are off the table for the next 60 years as I doubt that Gen Alpha is going to start having 12 kids by the age of 16. The next bond crisis is the end of buttcorn and crapto in general

>>510350136
>it will be confiscated by your government in time of need
btc is not immune from govt interference
govt has the power to force what legal tender is
lack of anonymity of a public ledger means they got you the moment you try to use btc for any transaction
or they tolerate btc but only if you use exchanges
which is just another word for banks
or they force conversion to fiat for the payment of taxes
many ways for govt to capture btc ecosystem that does not require confiscation
just look at the long history of money
btc evangelists think they've discovered something no one else does
that is hubris
there is nothing new under the sun

>>510352138
>confiscated by your government in time of need
pic rel
when it is made illegal it will be confiscated

>>510350829
even annually, it depends on which month of the year you reckon at
volatility is an issue precisely because its current value, reckoned in fiat or gold or whatever, depends solely on the time you bought in
that arbitrariness is untenable as the foundation for store of value

>>510351977
Note how off this suspicious Austrian is. Even Hitler knew the importance of controlling a central bank and issuing your own currency. So why isn't this Austrian curious who runs Bitcoin? Next, he will say its users run it but that doesn't tell you very much. If you don't own a massive server farm, you can't mine it enough to massively effect its price or supply. Has this suspicious Austrian told you about how divisible Bitcoin is? That could be some good homework for any of you wanting to speculate on it. Find out not only what the upper limit is of the coins but also what their division limit is. (I bet he stops posting now that I brought it up. If he doesn't, keep needling him about when you can buy every day goods and services with it in Austria or anywhere else in USA or Europe.)

>>510346111 (OP)
Agreed. And fuck islam too

>>510351942
so true, only retards would argue otherwise, i can think of some many examples too
international transfer? physical gold is both quicker and more convenient to transfer worldwide than gold, easily
storing large quantities of wealth in a small volume as well as negating storage fees? physical gold by a country mile, storing vaults of gold is both lower risk and cheaper than storing bitcoin
look at gold:bitcon chart, there's a reason that gold has consistently rose in price compared with bitcoin since bitcoins inception, and its because of golds inherent superiority as dictated by its market domination over bitcoin
bitcoin has only reduced in value since inception against gold, much like bitcoin has only lost value in all world currencies over time as well
this is because the market of millions of individuals have decided that gold is a better investment than bitcoin, due to golds self evident superiority

>>510352222
only commutard glow niggers still mention or remember charlottesville, let alone try to attach their narrative to it. there was no need to read further communist - please post donals touching the wall next, I lost my copy

and the Fed and Trump's new debt-backed stablecoin will only be for law abiding citizens, too
kek
imagine if felons couldn't use money, half the fucking banking sector would be fired

>>510352208
i was replying to someone who says gold could be confiscated
my point is that btc is subject to government capture in other ways too

>>510352279
both are crap, and both are third degree derivatives of the US t pyramid scheme

As a bitcoin holder since 2016, I ask of the more astute observers of these threads.... Why is there so much spite and invective towards bitcoin holders? What did we do wrong? Why are we suddenly the enemy?
Something to think about.

the NYFed is operating on $12B in capital
this is all that the largest owners of the NYFed (the primary dealers mostly), would be held accountable for, if they failed, lol, you would think the FBI would give a fuck about this, especially since they claim to have $10T in assets

Thread from Feb 6th 2025 194 posts
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/496654194

200 post thread from Nov 10 2024
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/487963430/#q487963430

the great irony here, is the more cash the public uses, the more it forces the Fed franchises to hold the interest-free fiat as liabilities (aka CIC cash in circulation) and thus, making US taxpayers’ dollars less available to be spent paying out the liabilities of IORB to primary dealers and interest on reverse repo transactions to MMFs

>>510352222
right, btc just exchanges one set of bankers for another
at least with fiat we know who they are
with gold, they don't matter
gold predates banking and even the nation-state

>>510352335
ok

>bought 1 BTC for 35k years ago
>now worth 120k
Life is good.

>>510352211
buy the dip, every time

>>510352537
no, the plan in 2008 was to have the same bankers remain, just with a different top down forced communist good, instead of fiat, crapto, both ultimately worthless as boths value is derived from the risk of default on T Bonds

Trump and Miran are trying to circumvent #2 in pic rel with forwards (futures for treasuries).
They are trying to make it so the US can sell its gold without paying down the debt.

Miran and Trump want for the major debt holders to swap their short term bills and notes for 100 yr bonds, they want to indebt Americans for the next century to the Fed (ultimately via tokenization of these treasuries (aka securities))

Reminder:
using cash forces these debt based central banks to serve the citizens

I promote the abolition of the Federal Reserve and to restore the currency back to American citizens. The citizens of each nation HAVE A FUCKING RIGHT TO A DEBT-FREE CURRENCY USED TO FACILITATE COMMERCE. Not for the currency to be hoarded and used to hide the insolvency of the very fucking bankrupt NYFed clowns issuing it.

>>510352400
totally bro everythings so crap! haha, i hate money! have you heard of credit cards? those things are EVIL >:( makes me so mad lol haha

>>510352628
>ib4 a shiny rock boomer appears
that was the scam up until 1974 - I wouldnt touch that crap with a ten foot pole

>>510352313
Tell them about the division limit of Bitcoin. They don't even know it has one. If you believe it to be the one crypto everybody just has to have you will be happy to teach them how it works. If you are just a Bitcoin rep trying to get more dupes to buy in, you are the problem with all of existence.

>>510352084
bonds are worthless, have been for a few decades.
not sure what you're trying to get at.

people flee to what capital vehicle exactly in that scenario?
bitcoin will be a large competitor. since real estate will implode as well.

>>510346111 (OP)
Feds and China own most of the bitcoin apart the glownigger who launch it, which is most likely Feds.

>>510352628
>boths value is derived from the risk of default on T Bonds
we need our Treasury to issue our own fucking currency

>>510352708
Kys communist
I'm not reading your crap - just reminding you that you should kill yourself, while trying to reverse shill - as you expect commutards states using uncovered public debt to buy your bags - so others dont buy them

you and the italian shill are the 5 of 5 in this V of V

>>510352746
Dont forget Gamestop bought around 5000 bitcoin recently.

>>510352707
the scam was believing the US would convert dollars to gold, not the gold itself

lololol holy fuck

>>510346111 (OP)
what if The Jews have ZOGs do something like FDR did for gold, without Congress IIRC.

just announce everyone has to turn in all BTC for 1/2 current value, or else.

Only a few freaks would hold out.

>>510352723
bitfinex. Whatever that twitter fags name was, he was wrong in essence, but he had the right target in his scope
>>510352748
>we
you mean a bunch of communists in parliaments and gubermints, or no wait, in soviets... fuck you, I rather have the fed than commutards

>>510351976
BTC is absolutely not a hedge for fiat. It's flats bitch. Overlay the stock market history with ups and downs of crypto and you clearly see that crypto goes down when the US stock market goes down. Which means *drumroll* it's speculative trash. Absolutely worthless and no use. The reason BTC and other coins have gone up in value is because government subsidized corporations have used it to inflate their market cap. And BTC and others have been bought up by the US government (not even the federal reserve, the actual government) since 2020 and even before. This means that

1. Crypto is a ponzie scheme that allows wealthy people to make more money
2 a rugpull scheme for 95% of normalfags invested in it
3. Creates duality so people get accustomed to real CBDC once crypto shits the bed.

It's still fiat though. It isn't tangible, crypto is artificially manifested though use of electricity, it is not fungible, it has counter party risk and it has zero barterability. And to top it all off it is tracked and traced even more so than even fucking bank transactions. Gee howdy what a great 'currency crypto is. You have to be a drooling retard to not get out now. This is a warning of a top signal. Mark my words in two months xrp fags and btc pitches will be kicking themselves that they didn't get silver and gold when they could.

>>510352829
yes, what do you think this front run bullshit is? The greater fools expect future tax payers to buy their bags - thats the entire run. typical V of V - no use case, expect the hope that a non born fools is buying your bag through a communist proxy

>>510352279
Retard. If you distrust in physical gold, then you have paper gold. Just like the gold backed currencies of yore.
I don't care what the market says shit about shitcoins, they're made up things that haven't exist for even two decades and will not exist in the centuries to come.

>yfw bitcoin is now more valuable than Amazon

>>510352980
>50 posts by this ID
Totally not mad though.

>>510351918
I don’t value any of that garbage you listed, only money because it makes me happy.

Bitcoin newfag here. Should I care about buying or not if my only plan is to put some away for later? I'm buying putting 1-200 dollars per month.

>>510353027
I have time
and its sliding

>>510352748
that would be the end of the currency
everyone knows the temptation for a national treasury not to inflate away government debts is too great

>>510346111 (OP)
BTC is the easiest and fastest way to BTFO the jews and bankers. Buy some anons.

>>510353025
Please add USD, Pound Sterling and Euro to the list. I want to see something.

and this, too
if you are a crypto proponent, you would use cold wallets, otherwise it is just another arm of the Fed

>>510353058
you are 12 years too late.

>>510352789
Who runs bitcoin? I mean who has the biggest servers that mine it and who originally issued/still issues it? Where are their brick and mortar stores? Their warehouses? Where do you take your complaints if you feel you were wronged in some way? Answer you fucking shill. But you can't. Because that gives the game away.

(He can't answer these questions, anons. Don't trust him farther than you can throw him.)

>>510353166
>otherwise it is just another arm of the Fed

>>510353181
Nigger again, I just remind you that you need to kill yourself commutard reverse shill

>>510353058
Don’t think, just buy and hold as much bitcoin as you possibly can.

>>510353244
>Dont think
>just buy MY bag
lol

>>510352428
>Why is there so much spite and invective towards bitcoin holders?
Jews are panicking and diverting JIDF assets away from hate-india threads to hate-bitcoin threads. BTC ends the kikes before Iranian nukes do.

>>510353264
>Nexon
why is a gook videogame developer holding that much bitcoin?

>>510353213
Anons, this is what a display of self righteous indignation looks like. You see the same kind of air headed nonsense in religious cults. I ask the shill critical questions about the function of the crypto currency and it can't answer. It goes back to being offended that someone dare ask. Look out for behavior like this in the real world. Suspicious Austrian is using an ancient technique that relies on you not asking too many questions.

>>510353297
Good, you can overthink it and stay poor.