>Noooooo we canโt release the Epstein files Democrats will win the next ejection if we do!
So are you admitting Republicans are all pedos? Lmao
>>510352553 (OP)i dont even think the "epstien files" are real and i still think this is a dumb thing to say
>>510352680The Democrats win every election.
So do the Republicans.
>>510352553 (OP)Who cares which head of the hydra eats you? The only people who benefit from the secrecy are Israeli intelligence members
>>510352743Odd thing to say
>>510352771The fact that there's no fix narrative wise for maga is evidence that this is not a nothing burger.
>>510352843>DO YOU HATE DEMOCRACY?Yes. The people are retarded.
>>510352771This is hard MIGAcore. Miggers are absolutely demonic.
Why do Republicans keep saying theyโll lose the midterms if they release the files?
What are they implying, here? Why is Charlie even asking a question like this? Strangeโฆ
>>510352763yeah, so what lol
>>510352553 (OP)Do you want Republicans to be exposed as the pedophiles that they are even if it means the pedophiles will lose the next election?
America is not a real place, what a fucking joke.
>>510352553 (OP)can't release the epstein files or sun will fall out of its orbit and hit earth!
>>510352999>the fucking midterms bro my team might lose the game!Voters aren't sentient.
>>510352553 (OP)What a fucked up equation. Imagine caring that much about a fucking political party
>>510352999>What are they implyingThey are saying: do you want us to be exposed as pedophiles and lose the next elections?
>>510353022>even if it means the pedophiles will lose the next election?You're pretending the other side is not also pedophiles.
>>510352553 (OP)do people actually think people will be arrested? releasing any government file is basically fodder for drama. if i recall trump released a bunch of shit on jfk and it was a big nothing burger. people are literally doing nothing right now despite the files being withheld, so what exactly do people think will be different were they released? releasing government secrets is not a lesson in justice or any sort of righteous vindication on behalf of the people but basically the equivalent of putting a whoopie cushion on a chair. we laugh, we cry, we get embarrassed, we get a little angry, we move on
>the dumbocrats!
I hate these people
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>>510352553 (OP)stop posting this embarrassing zioncuck here
>>510352553 (OP)nope, i would rather give my daughter to epstein than let dems get the white house
>>510353156This is a kike
>>510353088>we won't release the files even if they hurt both parties equallylol lmao
I love seeing in real time how the Trump cult comes to a new consensus and programs their minds what to think
Holy shit I can't believe this is the narrative they're going with
>if you seek to know the truth we are going to lose the elections
Think about this for a second, it's a complete inversion of what we should be expecting from the political class, this is grounds for a complete overthrow of the government
This is not even about the elephant/donkey dichotomy, this should unite all Americans to overthrow the uniparty system
>>5103532312A tards immediately put their hands up the moment they see cops.
Nobody's overthrowing shit
>>510353229It wouldn't hurt Democrats and you're deluded if you think it would. No MSM outlets would even report on it.
>>510352553 (OP)Releasing the files and telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth will SECURE VICTORY for 50 years. All the talk about USAยดs total collapse is bullshit. You just go thru the same thing Russians did in 90ยดs and bounce back in a decade.
>>510352553 (OP)doesnt matter what the hardcore base wants. The moderates who get MAGA over the top are already walking away. Mass support of DT through this will only make MAGA look worse on the way down.
>>510353088That's the thing, both sides are pedos but yelling "THE DEMS WILL WIN IF THE FILES ARE EXPOSED" implies only one side is
>>510352553 (OP)>charlie kikeCome on anon.
>>510353363>MSM names in the list>mass arrestslol
LMAO
>>510353402No, it implies this:
>>510353363. There would be no MSM reporting on it. If they did it would be to only report on Republican involvement and obscure anything the Democrats did. Republicans would come out and eat each other alive while Democrats would circle the wagons and bury everything. I'm not stupid.
>>510353088Then why isn't the other side saying that they'll lose the next election if the names are released?
>>510353516Ah yes, the all powerful MSN that made Hillary win in 2016 and Kamala your current president
Everyone on both sides think the person they hate is on the list, there's millions of ai generated lists, being on the list is the new being antisemitic.
>>510352553 (OP)What level of MIGA brain rot causes him to not realize how damning that statement reads?
>no we need to stop talking about the satanic pedophile cult it's not that big of a deal and we need to focus on winning the election
Literal cult behavior if you're fine with this
Also Charlie Kirk looks like a meatcanyon character
>>510353611The names are currently not being released so they don't have a reason to say anything. Did you see them clamoring for it to be released while Biden was president? He had the evidence for the last four years and did literally nothing. Why do you think they kept their mouths shut then too?
>>510353623I'm talking about the effect it would have on current D voters, which is zero.
>>510353731Sure thing cultist, sure thing
>>510352553 (OP)He exposed everyone on both sides being pedos.
>>510352553 (OP)I registered as a democrat yesterday been registered as a republican my whole life. The gop is going to lose the midterms they might as well break the system on their way out at this point. If they were real patriots that actually cared about the people of this country they would fall on their sword and expose it all even knowing they are implicated too. Leadership is about selfish service to your subordinated not ruling over them and pretending like they donโt know you are evil. We canโt have an Israeli pedo blackmail ring pulling all the strings in this country. Itโs evil and will never end the foreign influence and occupation. It needs to be exposed to give the people of this country a chance at rebuilding something better. We cannot have the foundation of this country be on abused children. Such a foundation should be totally destroyed and any pain we have to experience to destroy that is ultimately worth it. Fuck your gdp fuck your partisan bullshit turn over the tables
>>510352771Reset the system God damn it let it be!
Amen
>>510353230Theyโre worse than the left
>>510353787I've said nothing that was false. If [Democrat politician] is on the Epstein list, it will have zero effect on how many Democrat supporters vote for him. This shit doesn't matter with their base. If you think it does you have no conception of the reality on the ground here.
>>510353062It's because they used cult psychology tricks to win in the first place. Trump is the cult leader. If the leader goes down the cult disbands. It's already happening, BTW. The only solution is for Trump to apologize. It's a Chinese finger trap. I have little doubt that he's trapped permanently, because he can't seem to "let go". If he did he'd be a "loser" (and a real Christian, incidentally)
>>510353849Who are you implying is going to release the files after Trump's presidency is over? Lol.
>>510353991Do you have any relevant survey data or historical examples to support your argument?
>>510353394Who cares? Elections are fake and heโs a lame duck anyways. The function of maga has been fulfilled - a new controlled op movement that set back white racial identitarianism by 10 years while all the proles were slopping up civic nationalism 2.0
>>510353731Youโre the lowest form of life
>>510354197I have my own life experience which is more valuable than any opinion of a foreigner.
strange question about if justice should take place or not.
it all sounds like protecting pedos.
>>510352553 (OP)dems will win midterms anyway, so yes.
>>510352553 (OP)for every version of this question the answer is yes
governments shouldn't have secrets
>>510354266If you fight an enemy with no principles, if you cling to your own too closely then you will lose. That's simply a fact, and one I thought many people on the right had already learned, but I guess not.
>>510352553 (OP)I've been over electoral politics for years and I've just been voting to appease my family members. This was the last straw. Now I'm not voting ever again in any election and I'm trying to convince everyone I can to stop.
why does the political arm has so much power over the justice arm?
>>510352553 (OP)I DON'T GIVE A FUCK BURN IT ALL DOWN YOU FAGGOTS
This is fucking retarded optics. If they were never going to release the list they should've kept quiet about it. And now they're in this mess, they're making it worse by gaslighting people in the most obvious ways. It's not just shitty morals, that much is obvious, it's extremely shitty politics too.
>>510354068I donโt know who will but we know that trump wonโt because he is in them and clearly the other republicans wonโt either because they admit if they released them they will lose elections. I think either NatSocs or tankies would release the files tho both are real dissidents in this evil system. The problem becomes getting one of those sides into power I think the commies have a better shot so Iโll support them begrudgingly I would prefer the NatSocs tho
>>510352680/thread
its all kosher theater
>>510352553 (OP)If releasing the information about how Israeli and American intelligence agencies use children to ensnare important people in pedophile blackmail schemes caused the economy to collapse, the Republican party to dissolve, and America to cease existing I would still want the information released. If it's that damaging to its function then this government/party/nation doesn't deserve to exist.
>>510352553 (OP)That's a fake account.
>>510354512>I am right wing but I will support literal communists becauseOkay
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>>510354273Ah, so republican voters are "noble" and care about the children, while democrat voters don't and will do anything to retain power.
Did you know that black-and-white thinking is a common feature of cults?
>>510352771Don't care, let it burn.
>would you support the exposure and the beginning of the downfall for kike hegemony worldwide if it meant the blue globalist party won the next election rather than the red globalist party
Just what planet are migapedos living on?
>>510354607Yes I will support literal communism over baby raping kikes and their golems robbing and destroying this country and pushing us into wars and being a permanent parasite. Release the files and we donโt need to go that route but they wonโt so Iโll be pragmatic
>>510354646I'm not noble at all. I'm a terrible person and I support terrible people. The only thing I care about is policy. If I wanted to be a moralfag I'd go to a church.
>>510352743>If we release the Epstein files>then we will need to murder our own childrenHol...
HOLY CRAP
The Biden administration didn't release the client list. I think they would have if it would damage trump more than themselves. Both parties are deeply entrenched in this profile ring. I don't know what else it would be.
>>510354821So the only issue you have with the deepstate child molesters is that they don't support your preferred policies?
>>510352553 (OP)>Why would you want to know the truth if it might change the way you see the scum destroying your home and your nationBrain dead.
>>510352553 (OP)I just want to see them and then I just want to see some heads on pikes
>>510352771>If we release the names there will be fire and brimstone>meteors come down and the whole earth will shake
>>510353984The Trump cultists have no principles at all. Their all for "protecting children" until it's no longer convenient for them to do so. Thus they have no actual principles to stand on.
Everyone in America should want the release of every single unredacted document around Epstein, yeah I get it if they don't want to put actual CP out there, but blur the children and not the perpetrators so we know and have proof of what people were engaging in this shit. If it brings down politicians / business people / rich cunts then so be it, anyone that was associated with Epstein in any nefarious way should be exposed.
>>510354956I don't see any realistic way to remove these people so their existence might as well be irrelevant. If the situation changes so will my opinion on that.
I never expected MAGA to become more evil and degenerate than liberals but somehow they did it
>>510352771Just bite the bullet and oust the handfuls of corrupt blackmailed. They should have got out from under it years ago
I ASSURE you the country will bounce back if their precious pedophile rulers are missing for a bit
>>510355140How can their existence be irrelevant when they control the politicians via blackmail and what not? You think that voting matters but in reality it's just theater, the real decisions are made elsewhere.
Nah, liberals are so much worse because they're racist, anti-male, anti-family, anti-industry. Above all, they hate humans and want to destroy order wherever they find it.
>>510355118YES
>>510355199groupthink
once people identify with a group it trips an ancient ooga booga switch and they stop being humans and start being chimps
>>510354473you don't think they knew exactly how this would play out when they announced they were dropping the case last week? how could they not?
I'm not sure I believe this, but what if trump is waiting to release a redacted version of the Epstein list just before the primary so that he can do maximum destruction to his opponents and get more maga people in?
>We can't pursue justice because it would hurt our side more than the other side!
Do Republican pundits and talking heads really think this is a good talking point? Do they think actual voters are going to accept this talking point? Are they fucking retarded?
It means maga is now pro.child sacrifice.
>>510352553 (OP)He has conditions when it comes to being ok to protect kid fuckers.
Trump needs to clean house or maga stays home.
>>510352553 (OP)>have a secret bag thet once opened will give prosperity to everyone.>launch poll>ask... would you want to open the bag if it would mean literally Hitler pops out and genocides 90% of the worlds population >everyone says no>therefore this is proof we should NOT open the bag of prosperity>checkmate athiests
>>510355631Charlie Kirk specializes in retarded talking points. The blue team does this with Don Lemonparty and MSNBC-type media.
It's not a surprise. The question is why it's tolerated on /pol/ where much more politically sophisticated users discuss banalities of the day.
>>510352771FISA courts were created for this very reason
Black hoodies
Rope around their necks
Quick drop
Televised for the world to see what America does to kid fuckers
>>510355819>/pol/ >where much more politically sophisticated users discuss banalities of the day.
>>510355819>The question is why it's tolerated on /pol/We've been infested by r/t_d controlled opp retards for a decade now, unfortunately.
>>510355631The same reason Biden didn't even talk about the files. You can redact the list all you want, but the ones you are naming will show their own hand with receipts and drag you down with them.
>>510352771>you have to let your leaders get away with heinous acts of rape and murder otherwise it may impact your standard of living in some way
>>510355819>politically sophisticated usersNot since 2016
>>510352553 (OP)Elections aren't real.
>>510355118Normies are just slave brains. Thereโs a reason every society in history de facto enslaved their peasants and gave them zero political power.
>>510355923>not now that we're here lolMost people in public spaces don't know what Chabad Lubavitch is or that there is no qualitative difference between always blaming "the rich and powerful" vs "the jews". They don't know any history, they don't know what post-ideology means, or what technocracy is, what the internet of bodies is, that John Calhoun's Mouse Utopia experiment became the basis of Western Civilization, etc. They're capable of mildly superficial witticisms about "government bad" and that is about the whole of it. So you can fuck off with that bullshit.
>>510355344Racist is a fake Jew word.
>>510356110Do you think the userbase disappeared entirely since then? It did not. This shithole is still the most active imageboard online for a reason.
>>510352553 (OP)What makes you think there are no democrats on the list?
>>510356292Oh sure, some of us are still hanging around. But the sheer number of retarded normalfags who have infested this board doesn't help.
>>510356258You don't have to like it. I don't respond well to others policing my use of terms, however. If you're not going to hold the enemy to their own standards then I don't know why you bother showing up to argue. Go and build your own Saturn Cube.
>>510352999It's because they were already going to lose the midterms, thanks to starting a war with Iran and the pathetic deportation numbers.
>>510356216explain to me the functional ability that tacked on context shit has to a mechanism built to destroy the rich and powerful
knowledge of who has historically held power isn't required to destroy power itself
what is the actual real world difference, what is ideology for what does it do why do you think we need it
>>510352553 (OP)All those people chanting "Free Palestine" are missing a golden opportunity to wave flags printed with Jews sucking Bloody Baby Cock. You want to hurt powerful pedophiles from Israel? Flying giant banners of Jews blowing babies will make the Jewish media squirm more than any suicide bomber blowing up a Synagogue. Imagine raising thousands of banners of Jews being Jews as you march through the streets. They can't do anything about it if you do. They want you in Europe, in America. To put ever one of you in prison or deport you is antithetical to their ongoing mission to destroy all nations except Israel. Share these pictures and more with every Muslim in every Mosque. Put them on t-shirts. Instead of burning churches, plaster these pictures all over the buildings.
>>510352843>would you really punish a crime if it meant that the politicians who only pay lip service to you would go to jail? :(Of course not, I live to serve and not the other way around.
>>510352553 (OP)what's going to win Democrats the next election is Republicans lying to their base
conservatives don't like to be lied to, simple as
>>510356389so many racist porn addicts
i thought the ponies were bad for it but fuck me b is just gone
really takes the fun out of the word nigger to share a board with people who not only believes in race but are jacking off to it
>>510352553 (OP)imagine being the idiotic democrats and yet again walking directly into this fucking trap lol.
>>510356555You should rephrase those first couple of lines of text. They look like fuckin' gibberish. If you goof around and play dialectical games with them, you're reinforcing an Overton Window. They control that. If you forget about facts and logic, instead opting for memes and the provocation of strong emotions, you're never going to get yourself or anyone else out of the echo chamber, which has deleterious consequences obviously.
Also, you misread my comment. Post-ideology means that your faggotted political philosophies are about retarding public awareness of the real crimes and individual criminals who are burying our empire and our nation. It's a technocracy owned by judeo-christian oligarchs from France, the UK, and the Middle East historically. Presently they do much of their planning from Switzerland.
>>510356799I mean, look at this shit. This is what you think we should be doing? I bet it's good enough for Charlie Kirk's arch nemesis at MSNBC.
>>510357078All I am doing or saying is this:
Donald J. Trump raped children
>>510355199Both are insane self-destructive cults. Don't call it MAGA though, as I'd rather call it Trumpism. America does have to be great again.
>>510352743Iโm glad this pedo sympathizer is dying
>>510352553 (OP)The democrats will inevitably win an election. And the republicans will inevitably win an election after that. And so on, ad infinitum.
So I can have the Epstein files (something I want) and have democrats sooner... or I can NOT get what I want, but get democrats anyway.
>>510352553 (OP)What a load of bullshit. I don't see the democrats campaigning on this issue. The whole kosher uniparty doesn't want it publicized. This is a clear situation of establishment versus the people.
>>510357569Trump can easily prove him wrong by releasing the Epstein files!
>>510356834i'll try again
assuming that jews are in power
then what is the qualitative difference between blaming the powerful vs blaming the jews
the mechanism built for destroying power would destroy the jews without needing an ideological component
>>510356995>post ideology means having an ideology>reals over feels is feels over reals actuallyrejecting ideology to focus on specific events retards public awareness of specific events....make that make sense believer-kun
>>510356408Very ghey post anon
>>510357763Two things.
One, it's not "jews". It's judeo-Christians. They linked up like Spottem Gottem and Poo Sheisty during the Crusades.
Two, technocracy is not an ideology in this context. It's a descriptor for the use of Big Data to organize and "progress" societal order. The point is to say that whereas 'Third Positionist' neetsoc rail against mindslaves of the French Revolutionary dialectic because "The world is a business," owned by kikenvermin, accelerationists and European post-continental philosophers who've defined the foundational outlines of these sociological phenomena admonish you to ignore your idiot box banter from Merchant (Social)Media and look at the scientific and technological mechanisms at play. Consider for a brief moment how retarded political banter looks to someone who is aware of the existence of Digital Twins.
Are you beginning to see something yet?
>>510354377>Principles>ZOGnald TrumpTrump's only (((principle))) is fucking kids, you disingenuous
faggot.
>>510357569Hey, at least I am not a child rapist.
Like Donald Trump
Trump raped kids.
>>510358119>1pbtidYour contribution has been duly funded, Beautiful One.
>>510352680They are real.
The question is if the public will ever see the real files or some doctorted edited bs.
>the question is
Never pass Go and collect 200 megashekels. Groundhog day in perpetuity. Imagine an exasperated debater returning to step one every morning. Forever.
It's the new White Man's Burden. Moral casuistry ad nauseam unto expiry.
>>510352553 (OP)Republicans lost when this damage control started.
Trump is a pedophile, he won't release the list because he is on it. Now that his back is against the wall he fumbles excuse after excuse, it's pathetic. He promised you he would release that list. Now he won't because his name is on it, just like Elon told everyone.
Trump has cost the republicans not just the next election, but all current and future republicans will wear this shame forever.
Republicans protect pedophiles. They're done.
Elon will fund the next winner and republicans will spend decades in disgrace.
>>510353898You don't get to reset the system.
The system resets you.
>>510359046Elon is a CIA construct. You'd have never heard of Elon if it wasn't for the CIA.
If the gubberment has nothing to hide, they can release the files!!
>>510352553 (OP)they're going to win regardless
>>510358182a whole lot of shit you don't need in order to destroy power and thus any of the aforementioned groups who might hold it
consider for a moment how retarded something like the as seen of /x/ digital twin is to someone that rejects all that isn't repeatable within a
measurable system
now extrapolate to all beliefs that have even less proof than that
and what the fuck is the void, you really expect me to believe a lack of some abstract can scare/depress a person? something else is going on there
>>510359219Kill yourself.
I don't like that people keep asking the question that has been answered for six years. Every person who is not compromised wants full exposure of the blackmail pedo ring and full justice brought against the perpetrators, regardless of the consequence. If America is weak enough to crumble because we kill a few pedophiles, then we deserve to crumble.
>>510352553 (OP)We'll go into a forever war times two?
What's the fucking point here? Under Biden, we were rushing toward a collapse. This motherfucker is going to keep this bitch on life support so she can get raped a little more?
And why are they begging so hard? Because you have no idea how bad it really is.
The facts surrounding the Jeffrey Epstein case are so heinous the publication of the facts would cause Americans to recoil in horror from Israel and demand an end to all American diplomacy and aid to Israel
They say what Kevin did on Epstein's island was horrific.
The young boy was hand cuffed naked with his hands over his head to the reinforced shower head pipe. The pipe did not really need to be reinforced since the boy did not weigh more than 80 pounds.
Kevin remotely turned on the scalding hot shower water.
" Nooo, Nooo !!" the young boy cried out in anguish as the scalding hot water poured out over his body.
"Nooooo, I want my daddy !!! " the tormented young boy cried out
" I am your daddy" Kevin Spacey answered from the darkened room.
"Nooooo !!!!" The young boy cried out in anguish.
>>510359279the only reason to add an ideological component is disruption ala occupy+
or to make room for a different group to take the power
so you are a plant or an ideologue, a traitor either way
fuck you release the files
>>510359219>>510359279why do all the countries have to become less white the whole time we try your ideas
All of a sudden, the Epstein files help Democrats???
>>510359191You're a retard and Trump is still a pedophile.
>>510359586podesta spoke fondly of dennis hastert in his emails after 4chan hacked into them
>>510352999Everyone knows for sure bill and Hillary were on the fucking list why do cuckservatives think it wonโt hurt demokikes? OY VEY THE SHAM UNIPARTY MIGHT ERRODE AND WEโLL HAVE TO RESET. For the best
>>510359394But it's not America that's in danger of crumbling over this issue, is it?
I am certain that revealing the truth would destroy relations with Israel and put them in a very vulnerable spot.
So the real question Charlie Cuck should be asking is: Are you okay with the potential destruction of Israel if the evidence is released?
The answer is still yes, we can't let evil persist when we find it. We will have to solve the muslim question after, though.
Better to enjoy the show and legitimize the news cycle than to see what's behind the curtain for subnormal intellects. In that sense, it's already over for "humanity".
>>510359508>The facts surrounding the Jeffrey Epstein case are so heinous the publication of the facts would cause Americans to recoil in horror from Israel and demand an end to all American diplomacy and aid to IsraelSuccinct.
We know about kayfabe, we know about Smith-Mundt modernization, about hyperreality and hypernormalisation. We know about text to video, voice simulation, and all these other tools and techniques freely accessible to the average online sperg in degraded form. But someone trots out a member of the Ugly Actor's Guild and that all blows away.
>Squirrel!
You deserve it. You really do.
>>510359557anarcho syndacalism? the only time anyone tried my ideas it worked out great, sadly one countries worth of anarchist machine gun wagons does not win against several countries worth of tanks
you need to look to the rich cunts for that one, they need a certain level of economic growth to withstand the strain they put on the system, populations in certain places are reaching their natural density limit and stabilizing
ie growth not fast enough to hold up the strain of rich cunts existing
so they import more to keep the line going up, because the only alternatives are system failure or they are removed from the system to avoid failure
>>510352553 (OP)>So are you admitting Republicans are all pedos?Yes they are. Every time some political figure is busted for child sexual abuse or exploitation is a Republican 80% of the time. They're a gay criminal porn whoredom and child exploitation sex cult. This is happened time and time and time again.
That being said, Democrats are entirely a fake party. They're a red herring and a decoy party (very poorly pretending to be a left wing party) formulated by and controlled by Republicans and the far right establishment. A fake left wing party to prevent a real left wing party from existing. Occupying that slot with a fake construction. Democrats primary purpose war the be the face of all the liberal gay porn whoredom shit Republicans and righty establishment wanted, but obviously couldn't say do because it doesn't fit with their facade, so they had Democrats be the face of it under guide of "open mindedness and liberalness" etc so Republican and righty zionist establishment could much better attain and this crap, hasn't done fucking anything for regular people.
>>510352553 (OP)Yea, I donโt care.
>>510352553 (OP)It's fucking insane to even ask this. What the fuck is wrong with Americans?
>>510353363>>510353516It doesn't fucking matter if the MSM wouldn't report on Democrats in the files (but yes they would, the MSM reports negative stories in Democrats all the time), prosecutors will still be able to prosecute those people in the files who need to be prosecuted even if the media won't report on the Democrat names (yes they will). Most MSM news is right wing including the biggest news outlet, Fox. Stop bullshitting faggot.
>the judicial system isn't corrupt
It's all so tiresome.
>>510358701the public has already made up it's mind, and there's nothing the FBI could do to convince terminally online twitter posters. They believe the government is run by pedos, but what's funny is that they will continue paying taxes. If you wanna believe what randos tell you, at least live by your beliefs.
>>510352771Oh ok, better let them get away with everything then... what a stupid thing to say.