Thread 510368129

Fell for it again, huh?

Why would sane Americans be against supporting their allies?

Oops we're not paying for them.

>>510368129 (OP)
Trump is literally selling them stuff, not giving it away, and you want to pretend this is a loss?

>>510368129 (OP)
>More bombs for Ukraine
>More money for Israel
>Deficit three trillion higher
>No Epstein files
>Groceries more expensive
Someone tell me any functional difference between the last six months and what we would have gotten with Harris.

>>510368129 (OP)
Why is the Oval Office so gold? He’s more of a nigger than Obama.

>>510368129 (OP)
The jew of Kievj had to remind him of some Kompromat- or if there’s none, whatever crazy fairytale he told Drumpf to keep him in support

>>510368129 (OP)
To be fair he tried to negotiate peace with Russia and was going to give away at least a 1/3rd of Ukraine but Putin declined and then he realised that Putin had no intention for peace so the only way to stop the conflict is through war

>>510368488
> Well fuck people , at least we make money with those weapons now!
I‘d welcome a rain of nuclear warheads on the west at this point.

>>510368465
Because you have Israel to pay to.

>>510368129 (OP)
>>510368526
Are you bots? The Europeans are PAYING for them

>>510368666
He's the first black president
>mcdonalds
>felon
>multiple baby mamas
>gold everything
>got shot

>>510368745
Question could be if you can even vote for change if either party in charge supports the endless jewish wars ?

>>510368828
Are you jewish? Why are you pro war

>>510368784
I doubled my money on BAE systems too!

>>510368828
> I‘d shoot you in the face point blank if someone pays me for it

This is literally your morals condensed your brown skinned cocksucker

>>510368465
>>510368488
>>510368828
I think you Kikes are too fucking stupid to post here. We don't support Zelensky at all. We are anti-Zelensky.

>This is not my war bro!
Well, now it appears it’s yours, have fun!

>>510368903
omg

>>510368951
>>510369050
>I'm mad drumpf isn't helping ukraine
>I'm mad eurotards are paying to help ukraine
Oh ok you're just mad

>>510369123
Who are you quoting?

>>510368465
I don’t understand, was it just like the lend lease act prior? And now we’re just having NATO buy it and sent it to Ukraine

>>510369172
>was it just like the lend lease act prior?
No biden just gave it away for free

>>510369093
Same, but who cares about Zelensky in this?
Trump supports American industries and others are paying for it.

>>510368488
>>510368828
>>510368465
Based! More money for Israel!

>>510369093
Being pro or anti anyone is for the proles

>>510368129 (OP)
Trump needs to apologize to biden and all the people of Ukraine his incompetence killed

>>510368784
Hey mate the people themselves choose it, same as with the people in Gaza.
Want peace?
Go make peace.

>>510368129 (OP)
Damn I should have voted for the Indian woman who hates white people

>>510368465
>they're paying
And by paying, he mean they're giving more of ukraine to blackrock, because ukraine can't afford any of it, they don't have the money.

>>510369237
More money for America*

>>510369237
Miga!

>>510369234
Maybe the American industrialists don't need a 4th Yacht and can just chill tf out

>>510369325
But all the same, we're paying for it. We lose again.

>>510369237
>>510369356
You groypers are such silly people

>>510369367
>straight to communist talking points while pretending to be a nazi

>>510369314
Actually you should have written in Hitler

>>510369325
Actually Germany is paying.

>>510368526
They closed the border and are cutting taxes. That’s a massive improvement over whatever Harris had in store.

>>510369367
Make peace if you want peace or die by our weapons while we profit off of it kek.

>>510368129 (OP)
Half-assed headline
>>510366792
He is selling them to nato, stupid choice of words to use though.

>>510369325
Europeans are legitimately paying us for weapons, then sending them to Ukraine. Idk if its free aid or a loan.

>>510368383
If Ukraine is our ally then Israel is our best ally

>>510368465
lol are you retarded?

>>510368129 (OP)
This meme never gets old.

>>510369511
Half-assed in politics is a deliberate move

>>510369491
>They closed the border and are cutting taxes
really? So that is reflected in crazy wage inflation, right? Right? You can personally attest to the border being closed?
Because I'm pretty sure there's a bunch of smugglers watching TV in a bar in Tijuana laughing thinking "what the fuck are they talking about" when they hear the same retarded shit you've bought wholesale.

>>510369421
>being anti-Ukraine, a Jewish cryptocracy, is Communism
Kys kike

>>510369555
You are so silly

>>510368960
Smart.

>>510369354
>for america
lmao yeah """america"""
the billionaires getting ukraine's land and resources doesn't benefit me.

>>510368488
Trump said he was going to end the war. This merely prolongs it further.

>>510368129 (OP)
translation: I'm being blackmailed by Russia and Israel, please NATO save me

>>510369423
Ah yes that would have made a huge difference. Its just like communism, if everybody wrote in Hitler we'd suddenly be living in utopia right now so long as there wasn't a single bad actor among the entire 300 million people in American, shitskin illegals included.

Now you're going to say "voting is meaningless"
to which I respond, voting in this instance is equivelant to pascals wager only there is no 4th option to make everything worse therefore there is no reason not to vote.

>>510369464
Germany can't afford that shit either. They can barely afford their nearly non existent military.

>>510368465
>He didn't know we was there
2nd African-American U.S. president who keeps it real

>>510369520
It has to be on loan or some other jewish shit. Wouldn't be anything new, they've been cucked for decades.

>>510369537
A smart person really believes russia will stop if it thinks the ukraine has no way to defend itself.
And before you start with your bullshit, fuck the leadershart of both sides the world would be better off without them in it.
Citizens suffer under pathetic weak leadershits like them.

>>510369720
I don't vote for pedophiles it's just that simple

>>510368465
That's no problem at all, next dem president is going to condone all debts ;^)

>>510369491
>They closed the border
bunchofpeoplelaughing.png
>and are cutting taxes
oh, sweatie

>>510369580
>anti-Ukraine
No, what you just said was anti industrialist. The literal origin of communism. You're one of those retarded chink tok brainwashed zoomers who has been MKultra mindfucked into believing he is a leftist and pushing leftist dialect into right wing circles.

>>510369852
You just vote for a brown woman married to a jew

>>510369354
Most Americans aren't on the board of directors for major defense contractors

>>510368745
>he tried to negotiate peace with russia
He demanded an unconditional 30 day ceasefire then the Kellogg plan which was basically Minsk 3 plus NATO in Ukraine via the 'coalition of the willing'. There was no negotiation with the Russians at all.

>give away a third
There was no international recognition. The lines were simply frozen in place for endless negotiation while Ukraine continued getting weapons and rebuilding.

>putin had no intention for peace
Putin has been trying to end this war since 2022 and the position the Russians have taken from the start is that they aren't looking for another Minsk treaty, they want a definitive end to the conflict by addressing the root causes.

The only people who want this forever war is NATO because it can explain away the fact that the quality of life here is dropping massively and covers up the EU's movement into dictatorship.

>>510369520
They are sending their current stocks to place orders for replacements from the US paid for by interest on Russian assets in the EU and whatever other money they put towards this.

The US will jack up the prices and rip off the Eurocrats, but that's their job to loot us and enrich themselves.

>>510369852
Age of consent in nazi Germany was 14. Cope.

>>510368129 (OP)
Seems like kompromat Russia had on Trump was at least partially tied to the Epstein files. Trump used to kiss Putin's ass a couple of years ago now all of a sudden he's turning on him? Not a coincidence

>>510369883
>TDS leaf
Youre going to pay the tariffs no matter how much you throw tantrums here

>>510368129 (OP)
Nope, only turkish weapons from turkish depots

>>510369636
Actually it's Germany that's paying for it, also if you want gibs just say that.

>>510369652
He tried to, openly, clearly, undeniably.
Thing is he can force Ukraine, he can't force Russia, so he has few options since they refused.

As such he has reduced costs to his side and is simply waiting for Russia to change its mind as the pointlesness of their continued war sets in.

>>510370013
They also put you kikes in work camps ;)

>>510370030
You now remember liberals were psyopd into thinking drumpf was a russian agent for 4 years LOL

>>510369732
And yet it has managed to afford it.

>>510369491
wow thats crazy, but i still see fucking spics eveywhere i go, so he hasn't done enough yet and i wont pat trump on the back for zero changes in my personal life.

I WILL NEVER TURN ON TRUMP
HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO HEAR IT
I SAY IT AGAIN AWARD
I WILL NEVER TURN ON TRUMP
HAIL SAINT TRUMP

>>510368465
>they'll pay us back later, trust me goy
magatards are coping so goddamn hard

>>510370108
What shithole do you live in?

>>510369980
No, but most of its industry does directly benefit off of it.
Arms sales has always been the go-to tool to drag the US economy out of a slump.

>>510370143
shut the fuck up liberal
Is /pol/ just a leftist board now why are there so many of you faggots here

>>510370108
Bro Zion Don is giving out mass amnesty

>>510369891
The Industrialists we were talking about were Military industrialists like Lockheed-Martin, you brain dead faggot. Post a picture of a dead kike to prove you're not one.

>>510370143
How stupid are you zoomers?

>>510370192
Nah they just flood here in a tantrum over losing.

>>510370176
I'm not a rich jew either

>>510369093
I've never been pro-Zelensky, faggot.

>>510370081
Did you know that Hitler would have personally killed every single spic shitskin following the faggot known as Spic Fuentes?

Wheres the argument btw?

So europeans are buying our weapons to send to ukraine and I'm supposed to be mad about this?

>>510368383
I'm not but MIGA was so sure Trump was going end NATO and support Russia and it's fucking hilarious to see him back track on everything they thought, He might as well be Biden but even more pro pedo.

>>510368465
MIC BROS WE WON AGAIN

>>510368526
Kamala would've been more culture war faggotry and far less noticing

>>510370322
You people are fucking insane.
>>510370321
But... DRUMPF

>>510370204
I know right the US is already almost 40 trillion dollars in debt what's a few 100 billion more going to matter?

>>510370281
You are right now you fucking retard

>>510370321
You don't even care that he protects child raping kikes so I doubt you'll care about any of this kek.

>>510370197
Ah yes, nazis were famous for hating military industrialization....

>>510370263
Not employed with a real job either then, i take it?
Everything real benefits.

>>510370302
Never listened to Nick the only political podcast I like is Warstrike

>>510368129 (OP)
PEDO MAGA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-knHXSKYY

>>510368129 (OP)
I hope Putler sticks a yuge nuclear missile up orange kike's butthole

>>510370392
>Insane
Why because I think Russia and all it's inbred slavshit retarded people should burn in nuclear hell fire? I support trump arming enimies of the zigger orcs. One of the few things he's done that I do support.

>>510370399
WTF are you babbling about, you memeflaggot fuckstick? How is pointing out that we're not paying for shit for Ukraine somehow pro-Zelensky?

>>510370393
They are PAYING for it you deranged groyper retard. Go be mad at trump on Twitter you retard.

>>510369899
do they rape children? no? then ill vote for them.

is it that hard for republicans to not rape children?

>>510370192
>>510370204
Nothing but desperate flailing and seething, the more anti-semitism grows the more the magatards shriek

>>510368129 (OP)
FUCK THE DISGUSTING turkish SCOUNDRELS !

>>510370492
Putin won't do shit besides get more of his dipshit people slaughtered.

>>510370517
paying for it with what money?

>>510368383
MAGA wanted to dissolved NATO. They was screaming for it all of Biden administration.

>>510370494
>>510370518
>>510370519
>nafo and liberals are mad
Oh no!

>>510368465
>we

>>510370485
Sounds like glownigger bullshit.

>>510369732
>Germany can't afford that shit either
oh i'm sure there are some friendly (((bankers))) that can loan them some money.
kinda like when you allied with the jewish communists in WWII and britain couldnt afford the war so ((Churchill)) sold the empire and when that wasnt enough he took massive loans from the jewish (((bankers))) of USA
WWII was about bombing Europe to rubble, stopping national socialism, and then USA jewish ((bankers)) loaning to Europe for rebuilding so theyd became debt slaves to the jew by the (((Marshall Plan))), basically bringing Germany back to Weimar it just momentarily escaped from

It's actually funny how this story is taught in American schools they say that "Oh America helped and paid to rebuild Europe!" pretending as if it was not a LOAN, kinda like your banker "helps you build a house" when he loans you money for it and puts you in debt for the rest of your working life.

We were actually smart and didnt take the marshall plan and rebuilt on our own, but of course the jew did ultimately get us, by fooling us to join the EU.

>>510370512
Youre making excuses for Trump firmly planting America into a pro-Ukraine position, you stupid little bitch. If you're not a kike, you are one dumb faggot sycophant.

>>510370192
>WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE HERE OPPOSE MY KIKE CHILD RAPE CULT?!
kek you really are confused by this

>>510368828
WOWEEE ZOWWIE. SUCH PROGRESS

>>510370572
Their money you fucking retard. You have to be intentionally being retarded, there's no way you people are this dense.

>>510370003
>loot us
>Hungary
Your useless country is a drain on the EU, poorer than Portugal and Slovakia. When are you dysgenic gypsies leaving so I can plan a party?

>>510370579
>mad
I'm relieved honestly, it's actually good to see Trump isn't sucking off Putin anymore.

>>510370617
>>510370634
>DRUMPF
You've been doing this for a decade and you still haven't accomplished anything

>>510368465
>They are paying for it!
>With what money?
>With the money we gave them.

>>510370373
kek arabs look so much their jewish brothers its fucking ridiculous
they're all canaanites

>>510370617
>Youre making excuses for Trump firmly planting America into a pro-Ukraine position
>not paying for their shit is a firmly pro-Ukraine position
The memeflag should have tipped me off several posts ago.

>>510370713
What money did Trump give them, you dumb nigger? The 500 million back in 2019? LOL

>>510369845
>A smart person really believes russia will stop if it thinks the ukraine has no way to defend itself.
lol are you retarded?

>>510370067
>they refused
Russia has been dealing with this war since 2014. Every time the Russians have trusted the west to implement treaties to solve this, they break them and Russia gets blamed.

Hollande and Merkel were proudly saying that they had no intention of honoring Minsk 2 and were just buying Ukraine time. Russia would be completely retarded to sign onto the Kellogg plan knowing that the mutts and NATO won't even address the root issues of the conflict.

>simply waiting for Russia to change its mind as the pointlesness of their continued war sets in.
This is an existential war for Russia. They will continue fighting this war until they have neutralized Ukraine. This isn't some mutt colonial war on the other side of the planet.

>>510370067
>He tried to
No he didn't.

War cannot be waged without weapons, and without american weapons hohols cannot wage war and eventually war's fire will dwindle and go away naturally without a fuel to keep it burning.

Not for a second during Trump's term mutts stopped assisting hohols in their war.

>>510370696
Its fuckig air defense anyway its not like it'll help Ukraine keep the Donbas

>>510368944
3rd party if they keep their grubby hands from inferences in 3rd parties.

>>510370720
>Agreeing to help Ukraine is not a pro-Ukraine position
You simply need to be killed off, in a gas chamber would do.

>>510370518
Really all Trump had to do was not rape kids it's not even that hard

>>510370611
Britian and France had been borrowing money that didn't exist from private jewish bankers to fund wars since the 1700's.

>>510370322
Even Biden's most incompetent handler would NEVER openly admit to hiding the Epstein case.

>>510370635
They have no money you fucking retard, we've been propping up their economy since the start of the war

>>510370720
yeah if USA MIC is making weapons and germany are paying for them, this is an excellent situation for USA and its germany who is getting fucked here, once again

its not that bad to manufacture weapons and give them to someone, USA has done it a lot
but to manufacture weapons and have someone else pay for it, well thats free money for USA

>>510369845
Kek the only way Russia will stop is to be completely annihilated. Every nation on earth should be sending weapons to the Ukrainians. Also Russia is a kike ass ally, they allowed Syria to fall, Iran to get blown to shit and so much other bullshit. No clue why anyone sides with Russia at this point.

>>510370634
LITERALLY HIS ONLY PROBLEM WITH YUROP
WAS THEM NOT PAYING THEIR 2% GDP TO LOCKSNEED

HE WAS VERY CLEAR ON THIS GOING BACK TO DRUMPF 1

NOW DRUMPF 2 UPPED IT TO 5%
AND YUROP IS PAYING IT

>>510370827
Europeans have money wtf are you even seething about? Do you even know what you're mad about?

>>510368129 (OP)
No more wars, wasn't that his promise just a year ago?
>>510368745
>To be fair he tried to negotiate peace with Russia and was going to give away at least a 1/3rd of Ukraine
We don't want 1/3 of Ukraine, we want security guarantees and the end of NATO expansion, which means that NATO should retreat to its 1997 borders.
>Putin had no intention for peace
Putin is the only leader who wants peace, but not at all costs. Until NATO agrees to his conditions, the military operation will proceed.
>>510370067
>Thing is he can force Ukraine, he can't force Russia, so he has few options since they refused.
Then why send more weapons to the nazis? How will that help him achieve peace? The best he can do is to cut all support to Ukraine right now, and they'll have no other option but to capitulate.

>>510368383
>just get mired in conflicts between total dumbfucks - they're your friends!
Pass.

>>510370793
At this point its pretty obvious you're a faggot and trying to be as stereotypical as you can to sound like a nazi. Its not really working pinko faggot.

>>510368129 (OP)
>Fell for it again, huh?

We're selling them weapons not giving them weapons. If they want to waste their money that's their business. They can send us all the money they want.

>>510368129 (OP)
>Disclose
lol he must be on the verge of suicide considering he was just shilling for trump but as hes paid off by russians he has to flip the narrative now that trump did wrongthink

>>510370799
>Really all Trump had to do was not rape kids it's not even that hard
For jews it is basically impossible. You might as well ask them to do manual labor.

>>510370848
The zoomers mad ITT dont even know what theyre mad about. But they know for sure drumpf made them mad

>>510370518
Ask Lawrence King or Mark Foley

>>510370773
It's better than nothing and with Putin pushing Trump further away by being an arrogant slave shit inbred I can see us "selling" them even more weapons.

>>510370880
Yes, Zero Money or Weapons should be given to Ukraine or Israel. They should be left to fight their own wars with their own weapons that they provided for themselves.

NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM NIGGER

>>510370885
You don't believe a single word you're saying.

>>510370674
Better to just leech it until it collapses. We have one foot out the door anyway.

That's what everyone else in this region is doing anyway. Not our problem you were greedy for empire and let us in.

>>510370952
Why would we say no to Europeans buying our weapons lol, were nit giving any shit for free though

>>510370793
>OMG IF YOU THINK US SELLING OUR SHIT TO OTHER COUNTRIES IS A GOOD THING YOU SIMPLY NEED TO BE KILLED OFF
Trump could end the Ukraine war and you'd explain how anyone in favor of it needs to be killed, you memeflag-using twat.

>>510370985
>Zero Money or Weapons should be given to Ukraine
Disagree, Israel can die for all I care but Ukraine absolutely should be armed. In fact I'd support giving Ukraine nuclear weapons at this point.

>>510370769
ITS YOUR WAR

PURELY A WAR OF CHOICE
YOU DONT NEED THE BANAN
YOU WANT THE BANAN

>>510370903
>We're selling them weapons not giving them weapons.
This line would work better if you hadn't been using it for giveaways to israel for years.

>>510370985
>zoomer groypers actually have no idea what theyre shilling about
Shut the fuck up retard go back to twitter

>>510371000
he's also going to start sanctioning russian aligned countries as well.

>>510370811
Yep people don't realize that the jewish grift goes long and deep
They don't understand how close we were to FINALLY getting to the good timeline when Hitler was going to expell them not just from a city or land but the entire continent
Unfortunately golems did the greatest race treason of all time and killed millions of Whites to save the jews
And now we are in the bad timeline of the jewish clownworld - and possibly permanently, it might just be that the last hope of removing the jews died in 1945 and that will stay as the defining moment in the history of White race when they read about us after pure White faces no longer exist

>>510371052
>22 replies
you're doing a disservice to your cause.

>>510368465
Imagine paying for your own weapons lmfao

>>510370848
>>510370935
These are the same faggots that have been whining about us selling weapons to Israel and treated them exactly the same as Biden and Obama giving Israel more than 30 billion dollars in aid. Anything he does is bad. ANYTHING.

>>510371057
He's said that for a while. Trump wants the war over so it doesn't escalate. Carrots and sticks have been used in both sides.

>>510370758
>Wah wah wah trust
I'm not defending western conduct but this pretense of Russians being more trustworthy is not a delusion worth sacrificing millions to.
Only realism works in contexts like these, and realism is that there is always a limit to how much you can want and demand before it starts fucking you over instead.

>Existential war
Hysterics never fare well in the long run, either put the war into perspective or anticipate the consequences of indulging in a warped perspective - Ukraine has made exactly that mistake in the first years of the war.
Russia is powerful, but it cannot defeat itself and Ukraine at the same time.

>>510371097
You dont even know what you're shilling about LOL thats why no one takes you zoomer retards seriously. Go throw a tantrum about drumpf somewhere else you unserious faggot

>>510371057
correction, trade tariffs*, about 100% on anything connected to russia and any secondary country with russian goods is getting sanctioned by 100%
>>510371108
hes learned that russians are not a people that you do business with. you gotta humiliate them and strangle them and then they'll do what you want. cant say im unhappy. hes humiliated both putin and germany the last month so its a good week for me

>>510371000
especially when these will get blown up or used up within weeks. Billions into american coffers lmao

>>510370769
Failing to take the deals you can get is a mistake Ukraine has made too you know.

>>510371101
>tf
>tp
kek

>>510368129 (OP)
common miga L

>>510371014
>Trump could end the Ukraine war but he doesn't
You are a delusional faggot. You must have alienated a lot of people over these past 10 years over this shit, kek

>>510370914
Ah true

>>510368488
Yeah, because they wanted russia to win and they wanted trump to actively help them do so.

>>510371101
or fighting your own wars

>>510370518
>i'm voting my way out of this
Fucking retard

>>510371057
Remember how quickly Trump cucked on the independence day tariffs when the markets reacted. He'll do the same in 50 days, there is no way that he'll go through with this.

Trump already cucked from the 500% 'bone crushing' tariffs and confiscating 5bn of Russian assets in the US that Lindsay Graham wanted to get to this point.

>>510370885
>Until NATO agrees to his conditions, the military operation will proceed.

Best case scenario russia takes the entirety of Ukraine. Then WHAT? nato will not leave, what are you gonna do ? nothing will be left to invade. concessions have to be made on both sides but nothing extreme like 1997 borders. keep in mind putin is old and america is playing the long term game

>>510371164
Go rape children you fucking kike. You'll be dead soon anyways

>>510370885
Yeah, but you're apparantly not strong enough for that.
It's simpler to maintain the stalemate and wait until time changes your mind.

>>510371227
What you even addressing in that post?

It has zero connection with false statement about Trump "really trying" to end war.

>>510371089
Thank you so much for the pic!

>>510371297
voting my way out? no im voting to collapse the system. make the worse choice every time so that things become so shitty there is only bedrock beneath you

He has gotten Americans through many wars. He knows what he's talking about.

>>510371299
russias in not much of a position to do anything and more tariffs is good for us as well in central europe. keeps germany and russia contained, throttles them out, and we can reap the benefits as prospering economies. plus trump sending stuff to ukraine including drones is big change for him. i have no idea why putin is just refusing any kind of diplomacy he must be really scared for his life. my guess is the moment putin ends the war he gets taken out and replaced.

>>510368488
With what money nigger?

>>510368383
Plot twist, it's a bluff. He does not care about NATO or Ukraine. He just wants everyone to forget about Epstein.

>>510368383
Why the fuck would we be sending anything to foreign countries when our own country is crumbling

>>510371297
Well it's implied he's not voting because the overwhelming majority of politicians rape kids just like Trump does

>>510370892
Yet your favorite orange kike is just doing that.

>>510371268
He did offer them a de facto win, it's mindblowing that in their pride they failed to take the offer.

>>510368129 (OP)
I’m going to rape your brown mothers, sisters and children then deport them with my child inside of them.

>>510371000
I don't know why you think I think we should say no. My only real complaint is I think we should arm Ukraine for free, take the shit we give Israel and give it to the ukies. I see Ukraine as another Palestine being slaughtered by a massive nation just for fun. I don't see the Russians as good guys. I truly do not think selling weapons to Ukraine is bad.

>>510371424
the salt today is amazing

>>510368745
>country instigates war on your borders
>forces you to fight
>supplies your opponents with everything from money to munitions to special forces
>still win anyways
>country shows up after you've gained the decisive strategic initiative and begs for peace
>decline
>country's retarded citizens:"OMG U R L'UNREASONABLE WARMONGER!"

>>510371398
Russia asset interest money lol. Why would you be mad at this unless you were Russian? Look at the amount of proxy ziggers and memeflaggots seething at this for no reason, really makes you think.

>>510371352
Ukraine too was offered a real chance for peace early in the war, and failed to take it. Russia has now replicated that exact same mistake.

I do not pretend to know the future, but that failure did not spell much good for Ukraine at the time and i doubt it is different for you.

>>510368129 (OP)
Based. Total zigger death

>>510371398
Money they have evidently.

>>510371526
why is it always leaf flags that shill for putin? and its always the same lines repeated over and over again.

>>510371424
Oh yes because we weren't mired in Ukraine(300 billion from Biden) before Trump or Gaza(35 billion from Biden) before Trump, were we, asswipe?

>>510370041
1. the tarrifs will be passed on - to you. pls learn how tarrifs work.
2. your country is owned and operated by Israel.
3. part of Americans' work-week is dedicated to Israel: you literally pay taxes to a foreign government
4. let us know if you gain independence and become your own country, but until then, pls simmer down

>>510371503
Most normal people tend to have a very negative reaction to child molesters

>>510370030
There is no compromising info, Trump is just retarded. He genuinely thought the Russians were his personal friends, and then when they refused any of his suggestions he threw a tantrum. His entire foreign policy is based on who is being nice to him personally.

>>510371547
>offered a real chance for peace
every deal ukraine ever made with russia just had russia violate it and steal more land. we tried to warn them but they ignored us years ago. so we joined nato and guess what? russia cant do shit. ukrainian retards actually believed russians when russia said they'd never fuck with them and now they're fighting a war because russia fucked with them.
>>510371602
who told you that? russia today or cnn? lol

>>510368383
Israel isnt my ally you retarded fuck

love him or hate him, what would you say if you were in a room with trump right now

>>510368465
>ww3 good as long as not paying for it
yay !

>>510371665
pls order some mcnuggies

>>510368129 (OP)
Absolutely based. Trumps stance on both Ukraine and Israel has been cucked but his finally stepping up.

>>510369580
>being anti-Ukraine is communism
Yes

>>510371398
Our money. They do the same shit with israel. Give them a "loan" that never gets paid back and they use our money to buy weapons. It's a very simple trick but it works on conservatives.

>>510368383
America has no allies

>>510371657
>Uh do you have a heckin sourcarino that molesting children is bad
Maga moment

>>510371657
>every deal ukraine ever made with russia just had russia violate it and steal more land
you might think we're retarded, but we remember boris johnson flying to ukraine to convince zelenskyy to not sign a peace deal

>>510371543
THE OLGINO TROLLS IN ST PIDORSBURG ARE ABSOLUTELY SEETHING

>>510371526
It's obvious what mutts simply want to protect blackrock investments, they dont care about peace or so, if hohols were on the roll, you would have never heard about any "time for peace" just like you did not until summer 2023, as everyone from globohomo chanted for military victory.

Only dumb nigger trust amerikikes.

>>510371547
>Ukraine was offered peace
Every single peace deal suggestion offered by Russian were basically a surrender deal for Ukraine.

>>510371424
We should sell to Russia, too. But Trump isn't that based. Fuck these war niggers.

>>510368666

Too nig to rig anon.

>>510371657
See: >>510371160
Same for you as for Russia, just switch the names around:

">Wah wah wah trust
I'm not defending western conduct but this pretense of Russians being more trustworthy is not a delusion worth sacrificing millions to.
Only realism works in contexts like these, and realism is that there is always a limit to how much you can want and demand before it starts fucking you over instead."

>>510368129 (OP)
Based I voted for this. Kill Ivans and Igors.

>>510371755
oh i forgot tankies dont rely on reality just fantastical LARPing and fan fiction
>>510371771
you dont sign a "peace deal" with a country like russia, because they will immedatiely work to undermine it. hence why you can only negoitate with violence. putin is also in a very bad position. trump keeps asking why putin wont even try basic diplomacy and this is because i imagine russias internal elites plan to replace putin after this disaster comes to conclusion. probably putins biggest mistake in his entire career.

>>510371751
as he is literally sitting next to the head of nato rn kek, he has also had a plethora of world leaders at the white house in the last 6 months

>>510371773
Damn lots of people going home after intelligence officer has been shouting at them for 10 hours.

>>510371823
Yes, that's what happens when you are de facto losing.

>>510370769
Well yeah, the Americans, or at least their elites, understand that it's in America's interests for as many Russians to die as possible. Of course they're going to keep the war going as long as they can. The Russians are fucking retards for getting themselves into this mess, and the Americans and Europeans would be stupid not to make hay while the sun shines.

>>510371771
>muh Boris Johnson sabotaged muh deals
Now please tell us what Russia demanded on those Istanbul peace talks, ziggers and their apologists always fail to mention that.

>>510371875
You think it's "fan fiction" that majority of humans don't like child molesters?

>>510371894
its more that putin can offer nothing else because he will be replaced. he started unwinnable conflict and now cant find any way out. trump would give him something but putin being russian isnt very good at diplomacy.
>>510371995
the only thing you tankies can do is lie, gaslight, deflect, and shift it. its not interesting for anyone please return to your reddit

>>510371386
>do anything
These are tariffs on Russia's trading partners that will jack up the price of everything around the world. Higher oil prices lead to more inflation and more brown people in Europe because their countries can't take it.


>more tariffs is good for us as well in central europe
It's terrible for us in the long run because the big Western European megacorps will be able to buy out all of our farmland and industrial capacity for nothing once they go bankrupt because they cannot afford to run with mutt or arab oil.

>benefits as prospering economies
We're in the Eurozone. We can't choose who we trade with or the terms of it. If we never joined NATO or the EU we'd be able to balance both sides against each other to get the best deal but because we are in both we are forced into wars that aren't our problems and economic blocs that favor the people who made the rules.

>why is putin refusing democracy
Read any of the posts I made so far. It's not Putin who is the problem here.

>he's going to get assassinated
Typical butthurt belter.

>>510371894
>de facto losing
>Not a single strategic war goal reached
This war is a stalemate at best as of now.

>>510370003
>Putin has been trying to end this war since 2022
By trying to conquer Ukraine
>The only people who want this forever war is NATO because it can explain away the fact that the quality of life here is dropping massively and covers up the EU's movement into dictatorship.
Ridiculous cope. The Russian regime wants this war because they believe Russia should dominate its neighbours

>>510368129 (OP)
>admits to being a child fiddler
>admits to defending tooth and nail the list that would immediately put many pedos behind bars
>tacos over every single tariff "threat"
>takes all your taxes and speedrun deposits it into jewish bank accounts for wars they started
Another one to the collection migamutts.

>>510372066
>hungarian zionist

>>510371547
Peace means resolution of reasons for war. Mutts never had the intention to offer anything like this. Armistice for some years is not peace.

>>510371962
Putin can easily stop the war and the deaths of Russians by not invading Ukraine kek. What a stupid fucking post.

>>510368383
It's a good question, but right now we are dunking on the pedophile.
>>510368666
He's a total Slavaboo. We should be surprised he doesn't wear a gold tracksuit to work.

>>510371774
Why would they care about peace when one of their major rivals just decided to liquidate an entire generation of its young men over basically nothing lmao, why in God's name would they want to help you out of the pit you've dug yourselves into?

>>510372066
If you never joined NATO or the EU you’d be an ever bigger shithole than you are now, a thousand hungarian whores would be on their knees ready to suck at the snap of my fingers, know your place.

>>510372066
>These are tariffs on Russia's trading partners that will jack up the price of everything around the world. Higher oil prices lead to more inflation and more brown people in Europe because their countries can't take it.
i dont know if you pay attention but immigration is grinding to halt. and we are currently patrolling borders even with citizen militia to enforce that. browns being russian allies doesnt really mean anything to me except that im glad they'll be getting more economic pressure on them so they'll collapse more. i dont really care about them honestly
>It's terrible for us in the long run because the big Western European megacorps will be able to buy out all of our farmland and industrial capacity
i think thats just orban to be honest. we're doing really great and continue to prosper, especially as russia declines and we can enjoy trade. its great to see germany pressured as well, keeping the insane policies of EU to minimum. things keep getting better in my view.
>We're in the Eurozone. We can't choose who we trade with or the terms of it.
lolwut? we have a lot of trade deals outside of eurozone such as AIIB which we signed in 2016

>>510371995
The problem tends to be that it's usually not the jews that are anywhere near the worst with this stuff, while that's implicit to your claim.

>>510372046
Genghis Khan pretty much stood at the cradle of modern diplomacy funnily enough, and with both sides being donkey-headed fools Trump is acting the wisest by simply waiting it out while enforcing a stalemate with his metaphorical pinky toe.

>>510372121
SOUNDS LIKE SHAREBLUE SHILLS GRASPING AT STRAWS

1 RUPEE HAS BEEN DEPOSITED FOR YOUR POST RANJESH

>>510371317
I'm on my lunch break, this IS your job lol

>MAGA is now pro-ukraine from being anti-ukraine
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAHHA
Biggest cucks in history the MAGA movement.
In 3 more years every American will be free from these fucking retards

>>510372143
>Armistice for some years is not peace.
which is why nobody is taking any deal with your country because this is what you offer, already proven because your country invaded crimea then invaded ukraine more after that. ukrainians were retarded for ever actually believing you wouldnt fuck with them but now they're paying for it indeed.
>>510372314
well trump knows that post-war ukraine will see a lot of growth and because it will cut ties with russia it automatically means economic growth and development. so anyone with a brain knows its beneficial. russia on other hand is in very awkward position, and i imagine putin is scared for his life which is why he keeps dodging out of trumps calls and talks. he hasnt even shown up to 1.

>>510368526
Keep seething vatnig faggot. You churka subhumans are going to get fucked.
Whites are getting sick and tired of Russia, China, and their sandnigger minions trying to destroy the West. You shitskins will not replace us, and we will never accept your commie ideology.

>>510372220
I mean I agree that the Russians are retarded, yeah. This entire thing was a catastrophic fuckup on their end and its extremely funny. When I say the Americans want as many Russians to die as possible, I'm not criticising them. It's the objectively correct decision and I think it's fucking hilarious.

>>510368465
Of which Europe loaned from the IMF
Which... America supplies

>Paying out real goods with imaginary loans
Art of the Deal?

>>510372046
Bro it's not a lie the overwhelming majority of humans are opposed to child molesting

>>510372109
>By trying to conquer Ukraine
How much land was ceded in the 2022 Istanbul treaty. Literally Donbass, Lughansk and Crimea. All areas that voted to leave Ukraine.

If Putin wanted to conquer Ukraine, he'd ask for an unconditional surrender then. He didn't because it was never about conquering Ukraine.

>because they believe Russia should dominate its neighbours
Angloid lecturing the planet on empire and morality. I've seen everything now.

Isn't that what your misrable fucking country did forever? You funded endless wars and created huge amounts of human misery to keep your empire and power alive.

You are still doing this with Ukraine today via NATO because you are too weak to fight it yourselves.


>>510371875
>you can't trust putin
So why do Eurocrats demand a peace treaty and ceasefire than just declaring war now?

>>510372078
They literally have all genuinely strategic goals bar Odessa (if that was ever a goal).
Ukraine (like Russia) has a lot of effectively empty space for which formal control matters little aside from pride.

Noit doesn't help that "our" side keeps falling for its own propaganda.
But you know with Trump we have at least one sober guy on the team thankfully.

>>510368129 (OP)
Oh good, no more war awesome, it was cool to see Trump stop this war in 24 hours and not supply Ukraine with weapons like that fucking old fool Biden.
It was awesome to see all the dirt on those criminals in the Epstein files too, I'm glad Trump didn't protect those filthy molesters and rapists like that fucker Biden.
You people are stupider than a pack of fucking niggers

>>510371044
I need banan thoughbeit
Sorry not sorry

>>510368828
WITH LOANS
THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR SHIT YOU DUMB FUCKING MIGATARD

>>510372412
You dont even know what you're shilling about you liberal freak

>>510372522
>So why do Eurocrats demand a peace treaty and ceasefire than just declaring war now?
why would anyone in europe declare war? russia grinds itself out against country that by all metrics should have lost years ago, but people underestimated just how fragile and corrupt interior of russia actually is. this was exposed i think just after prigozhins failed coup. then putins lack of appearances, his shifting out of talks and dialogues, and notable lack of any real russian military actions except bombing civilians. they've run out of ideas and its obvious but putin cant end things as they are because they'll probably kill him for starting probably russias biggest geopolitical disasters in modern history.

>>510372253
What you even talking about? We don't have such illiusions about mutts. Total mutt death, as it always have been. Entire war started exactly because mutts cannot be trusted with their project of cultivation future nato member from ukraine.

Nobody believed what hohols will be dumb enough to genocide themselves for the mutts sake. It's a cosmic level of retardation, unseen in modern history. Daily reminder what they die for the right to join NATO and be a army powerhouse in europe. Nothing else.

>>510370885
>we want security guarantees and the end of NATO expansion, which means that NATO should retreat to its 1997 borders.
This is the problem with you subhumans. You don’t seem to understand that NATO is a defensive alliance. It’s not an expanding empire, eastern European countries are willingly joining it for protection. In reality it’s Russia that wants to forcefully expand into Eastern Europe. Putin knows this, that’s why he pushes the narrative of “NATO expansion,” to make Russia’s expansion appear to be defensive.

>>510372143
See: >>510371832

Russia is mighty, but when your reach (your wants) exceed your grasp (the things you can get) that is never good for you.

But hey we're winding down our involvement, if you want to fight a hundred years more that is fine by me.

Lol.
The only good thing trump has done.

>>510368465
sure, just like we didn't pay for the wall.

>>510372621
Does a loan not count as a transaction? genuine question don't use caps on me

>>510368465
>30% Tarrifs
>funding America's proxy war
>mass 3rd world migration replacing you and raping your daughters
Eurocucks are just a humiliated people

>>510372621
The Europe has been funding the US ever since WW1.
In WW2 the marshall plan was fully paid back with interests.
We are the vassals of the US and the latest trade war is an example of that.
So yea, the ukraine war benefits to you more than it does to us. You can thanks Putin a lot.

>>510372471
YEAH BUT BLUMF DIDNT MOLEST ANYONE
YET YOU SHILL ALL DAY AS IF HE DID

WHERE IS THE PROOFS

THE BIGGEST SHILL CAMPAIGN OF THE YEAR IS ENTIRELY DEVOID OF EVIDENCE

>>510370769
>>510372699
Your points would have carried even more weight if you hadn't posted anime pictures. Don't let the NAFO faggots never take you seriously.

>>510372829
>We are the vassals of the US and the latest trade war is an example of that.
lol you just have a shitty government you keep electing and then like usual western europeans you never take ownership when you fuck up and its always someone elses fault.

>>510370885
>No more wars, wasn't that his promise just a year ago?
Zion Don lie and jews lie.

>>510372413
Ukraine is unlikely to genuinely rebuild desu, that's just false hope at this point.
And Putin has much more to fear of old age than of his enemies.

It really is an extremely big problem that our side keeps falling for its own propaganda.

>>510368745
Ukraine is Russia. Ukraine has always been Russia.
There will be no peace until Ukraine fascists and their foreign supporters accept this.

>>510372856
>WHERE IS THE PROOFS
It's Epstein list you know the thing Zion Don is desperately hiding

>>510372724
>You don’t seem to understand that NATO is a defensive alliance.
Tell that to Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and all the other countries this "defensive alliance" of yours has invaded in the last 30 years.

>>510372413
Smartest pole lmao

>>510368465
It's OK. The lithium mines that Putin captured will be ours when Ukraine is free (never).

>>510372871
anime website

>>510372921
naw they'll rebuild and it'll be fine for them too especialyl as they wont have russia hanging over their heads anymore. look at the facts: every country after 90s that joined nato prospered, while belarus and ukraine were dumb enough to believe russians and now look at them: poor and in war or fading away. but as soon as that is cut, prosperity comes in.
>>510372988
all russians honestly have at this point is acting edgy on the internet. theres really not much more you can say anymore

>>510372894
You can't do shit at the national scale against an empire like the US. They won WW2 and as a result, we bow to them, period.
Even the EU that was supposed to defend our interest bow to them and you eastern countries are just their satellites, defending their interests and buying everything that is made in the US rather than made in Europe.

>>510372938
Russia has a timer shorter than ours if it continues like this though, war exhaustion there is high while we haven't worsened after some initial tough hits.

If you want lasting peace you make a fair deal, Trump's good for that.
And if you reject that in your greed then by all means consign Russia and Ukraine to the graveyard of history.

Germans call graveyards "peace yards" for good reason, those too fond of war fill them the quickest.

>>510372982
A LIST

LIKE YOU MEAN
A LIST

THATS YOUR PROOFS
THAT IS NO PROOFS

>>510373047
Not really
And it's a political board, not an anime board.

>>510373109
again, youre just being typical cry baby western european who elects the same retards over and over again and blames everyone else. and then you do nothing for yourselves either. you probably just watch porn all day. the "EU" is dogshit german institution that forces idiotic social engineering policies because germany wants to federalise the continent.

>>510372522
>So why do Eurocrats demand a peace treaty and ceasefire than just declaring war now?

Yeah, loudly, often, and in public. Because they have elections to win and public support to maintain, and plebs don't understand that killing hundreds of thousands of Russians at a fairly minimal financial cost and no cost of relevant life is incredibly beneficial for both European and American international power.

>>510368129 (OP)
NATO needs to be dismantled.

>>510368129 (OP)
It was ridiculous in the beginning, but in the end it's the most optimal scenario. Ultimately, NATO is a military alliance of a dying empire that will continue to seek to expand as the only way to postpone its death. There is no point in trying to make peace with them because they are absolutely not interested in the world. They will still continue to actively attack wherever they can, and they needed peace in Ukraine only for a respite. Previously, Europe played the role of a good policeman, now Trump has decided to take this role, the Kremlin did not fall for it, so everything returns to the old scenario with an attempt to prolong the war as far as possible with the hope that this will cause social unrest in Russia as a result.

>>510372812
In the current economy, these loans aren't worth the dogshit left out on the street. Nobody has the ability to payback anything with loans

Americans are thinking they're high IQ because they can just loot European companies when it comes time to payback said loan
Europeans are laughing because they've already looted everything to shit and there's nothing left

ECB has been giving out dogshit loans left and right

There's a ton of articles going
>Dude don't worry about it
Nearly everything Europe has been doing for the past 3 years has been exclusively with handing out shitty loans

>>510373106
Russia will always hang over them though, that's exactly the problem with our side believing its own bullshit.

And i'm not going to take the rest of that seriously as it is not serious.

>>510372267
>you'd be an even bigger shithole
But we did and we are taking advantage of you, tough shit.

>sweden acting tough
Didn't you give away to arabs and niggers? lmao

>hungarian whores ready to suck
They'd end up laughing at your tiny dick and lack of sexual performance. You'd probably end up crying in the corner.

>>510372276
>immigration is grinding to halt and we are currently patrolling borders even with citizen militia to enforce that.
The EU migration pact is going to be enforced next year and the boats to Italy never stopped. What are smoking?

>we're doing really great and continue to prosper
IT is leaving Europe due to the EU's regulations and we cannot compete with America or Asia when it comes to manufacturing. Europe has no cheap energy or materials, Russia was our only hope at that and that's gone.

>russia declines we can enjoy trade
>we have a lot of trade deals outside the eurozone
With who of any substance? The biggest partner we had was Russia, the EU has ruined that.

>>510372413
>well trump knows that post-war ukraine will see a lot of growth and because it will cut ties with russia it automatically means economic growth and development.
Blackrock just closed their Ukraine rebuilding fund. That's where the growth was going to come from.

>putin is in an awkward position
Where is the majority of the world's population? Outside of Europe. That's why the mutts are trying to dump Ukraine on Europe so they can get to Asia which is where the world is shifting. Putin has already moved there and the EU is still trying to get there.

>>510372522
>All areas that voted to leave Ukraine.
By “voted” you mean taken over by Russian backed separatist terrorists
>If Putin wanted to conquer Ukraine, he'd ask for an unconditional surrender then
He can’t conquer Ukraine. At the start of the full scale invasion Russia tried to take Kyiv and failed. That’s why he’s not demanding unconditional surrender, because he’s not in a position to do so
>Angloid lecturing the planet on empire and morality
Whataboutism isn’t an argument
>Isn't that what your misrable fucking country did forever? You funded endless wars and created huge amounts of human misery to keep your empire and power alive.
The British Empire spread democracy, prosperity, industrialisation, peace, law and order etc. By comparison Russian imperialism (the Soviet Union especially) has only ever brought misery and suffering
>tf
Absolutely pathetic to see a Hungarian shilling for Russia. Your ancestors are turning in their graves

>>510372699
Great, by all means keep going! Let's see if we can hit 1.5 million corpses by December, that'd be one hell of a Christmas present

>>510368465
this is good
europe has been dragging its feet on this shit

>but my poor country of bumfuckistan sent 14.88% of our gdp compared to you fat stupid americans
dont care its clearly not enough

>>510372121
>admits to being a child fiddler
On what planet, schizo?

>>510373207
0 fucking arguments. Easy for you: You are taking EU gibs while dick riding the US like no tomorrow.

>>510368129 (OP)
Great. They figured out how to make Europe pay for their proxy war.

>>510373288
russia collapsed twice in the 20th century. It will collapse again soon and you will still be fantasizing about the great American collapse while standing in line for expired American MREs from the russian equivalent of UNRRA.

>>510368465
>WE WUZ

>>510373197
>triggered by japanese cartoon images
Bydlo detector.

>>510368465
When will Israel pay for the shit it gets?
Never? Thought so

>>510373197
political board on an anime website

And for the record, the patriot missiles (paid by europe) are used to counter the ballistic missiles that russia spam on civilian targets. Once again USSR and the angloes are using europe's destruction to make money.

>>510373106
There's nothing I can say to YOU you retarded fuck. 17pbtid and all of it is butthurt belt nafo talking points, no point humoring you.
>every country after 90s that joined nato prospered
All they did was sucky-suck on Germany's tit, you being the most egregious example. Shut the fuck up.

>>510372983
None of those countries were invaded by NATO you low IQ brainlet. A handful of NATO countries invading Afghanistan, Iraq etc doesn’t mean NATO collectively decided to invade those countries. In fact, most of the west opposed the US/UK invasion of Iraq

>>510372621
>drumpf didnt get cash for them so I'm voting for Kamala
You people are such losers

>>510368465
Mexico - I mean Europe will pay for it huh?

Russia will not lose.

Any time NATO and US increase their effort, glorious China will enter.

>>510373603
you yuros would go back to killing each other again if we left you to your own devices

>>510373659
Accurate, US propaganda spammed about "France surrender monkeys" for decades after that.

>>510373388
two more weeks lil pup

>>510373336
>By “voted” you mean taken over by Russian backed separatist terrorists
Yeah, people voted for maidan for sure xddd. Even when Poroshenko and Zelensky went to the polls from the position that they were a separate party from the Maidan, even though they abandoned all pre-election promises after the victory. Otherwise, that's what Western democracy is, after all. People voted for Trump and got a pedophile Bush, Europeans vote for fewer migrants and get more of them. Here Russia really went against Western democracy, aka the interests of the oligarchs

>>510373422
Hиппoшки - этo нaши вpaги, aнимe - инcтpyмeнт их мягкoй cилы. Глyпo этo нe пoнимaть.
>>510373552
Political board on an imageboard forum, not anime website. Just because it has boards for anime doesn't make the whole site "anime"

>>510373727
China is good at being China but not much else.
It has made similar prideful mistakes before - leading to its dismemberment by Europe and Russia.

>>510373725
>HEH LOOK AT THAT IDIOT BIDEN GIVING OUT FREE WEAPONS FOR NOTHING
>WATCH THIS
>*Gives out free weapons for nothing*
>AREN'T YOU GLAD YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR KAMALA

>>510373727
Russia chewing its teeth out in a forever war is also in China's interests, though. Putin's already been in Beijing doing the kowtow, the more the Russians fuck themselves over the easier it will be to subjugate.

>>510368828
we are, with your money LMAO

>>510373926
...America is paying us now?

>>510373921
russia cannot quit the war, the humilation of losing to poorest country in europe would be far to large

they need to keep hitting their head against the wall and eating themselves alive slowly but surely

>>510373983
NATO is buying weapons, not EU, US also happens to be biggest financial contributor to NATO

>>510373886
>>510373926
Europeans are paying for the weapons, this isn't hard apparently unless you're braindead zoomers with TDS

>>510373838
No, Russians have very much gone in support of western oligarchs lol. More have died in the past few years to line the pockets of American and European arms manufacturers than ever did in Iraq or Afghanistan, by several orders of magnitude. Thanks for the money, dummy.

>>510374108
Yeah it's a geopolitical goldmine for the west lol

>>510374124
Aye, before that increase to 5%.
It ain't coincidence that Germany has clarified that it is paying.

>>510373336
>By “voted” you mean taken over by Russian backed separatist terrorists
Elections don't matter until we agree with the results. Didn't you starve the Irish to death for hundreds of years because they refused your rule, I guess it makes sense with your support of Ukraine.

>Whataboutism isn’t an argument
It is, you have zero moral ground to be lecturing any country on anything with your history.

>The British Empire spread democracy, prosperity, industrialisation, peace, law and order etc. but russia was worse
You starved India to sell drugs to China then invaded them when they stopped accepting your posion. You were instrumental in the slave trade and you were waging constant wars to expand your empire. Even to this day massive amounts of the world's problems are because of the empires you carved up.

>shilling for russia
Considering that my ancestors hated the Angloids as much as they hated the Russians as we fought as many wars against you as them last century, they would probably wouldn't care.

>>510374125
>THEY'RE PAYING FOR WEAPONS
>With Loans
>That they borrow from the IMF
>That borrows from the Federal Reserve

I guess It is hard when you're a low IQ zogbot that gets raped in taxes every month
Keep repeating though

>>510374162
Your obsession with murders won't change anything. You killed a lot of people in ww2 and still suck black migrant cock

>>510374108
>>510374213
...Or they could just take Trump's excellent deal and get pretty much all the non symbolic stuff they need, as opposed to all they want.

But why go for the quick easy win when you can opt for the slow loss too?

>>510373363
>Let's see if we can hit 1.5 million corpses by December
It depends how successful "volunteer enlistment" will be going.

https://files.catbox.moe/sjggdf.mp4

>>510371089
It goes much further back than that

>>510369581
How so?

>>510374252
Hard set NATO contributions are just that, contributions, 5% does not account for all financial assets of NATO, that's why Trump ran on it and threatened to withdraw US from NATO (he never will)
Either way, weapons will be bought, transported and delivered and it won't affect single European

>>510374455
Christianity is a slave religion created by the jews, Christians were forbidden from lending money at imterest by the church which gave jews a monopoly that lasts to this day

>>510374556
How i wish that were true.
No, as per usual we're paying for American arms in a roundabout way.

>>510374373
they should have taken the deal that was offered to them. but russia is more interested of fighting wars for the sake of war, than actual objettive thinking

he offered them no nato for ukraine, front line freeze where it is at, and santion reliefs. instead, russia chose war and destruction because it's like a bear that has taste of human blood and hungers for more for the sake of blood, instead of logical thinking at this point

they will attack baltics within 2 years even if massively under equipped. because the logic is no longer there

>>510374596
The exact same is true for muslims, up to and including jews to bypass their own religious limitations.

Spain has some nice castles adorned withpictures of moorish royalty - painted by jews.

>>510374726
True

>>510374669
I respect Russia more than you do but if they genuinely do that then that amounts to suicide by toheir own admittance.

So i suspect some sort of deal by winter, winter tends to cool even the hottest heads - or kill them.

>>510374364
Ireland didn't fight in WW2, and the general public doesn't matter in geopol decision-making unless there's a collapse of the state. The western elite has been making a fortune off the corpses of your countrymen, and greatly expanding its global influence. If you insist on thinking about these things in terms of populations or moral norms, you will continue to be baffled by the events playing out in front of you.

>>510374373
If Putin accepted anything other than a massive victory he would be murdered and probably replaced with somebody who would immediately resume hostilities, and in any case the Ukrainians wouldn't accept it and I'm not sure the Americans are in a position to immediately compel them to. The war will continue for another few years at least. Nothing will happen until there's some sort of major status-quo change.

>>510374469
You dont even care what the thread is about, you'll be shilling against Trump no matter what.

>>510374880
The guy is well past retirement age, it's not violent death he fears.
And the Ukrainians can clearly be coerced, so if Putin changes his mijd peace will be a matter of weeks, not months.

This war has seen every side be disappointing so far, but maybe we'll soon have peace.

>>510374213
>geopolitical goldmine
No one trusts the west anymore. Soft power is completely gone. Why do you think that the west only talks about weapons manufacturing because hard power is all that they have left and it bankrupts countries.

>line the pockets of weapons manufacturers
This isn't a good thing, dumbass. The reason why governments were banned in investing in these companies is because when they become too powerful the answer to everything is war.

>thanks for the money
You aren't in the club. When these people's wealth gets threatened, you are the meat that will be thrown in the machine.

>>510374394
Ukraine and Ukrainians are completely irrelevant to American goals in this conflict, and mostly irrelevant to European goals, although the Europeans have a stronger interests in making sure that a Ukrainian state of some sort exists and is outside of the Russian sphere of influence when the war is done. The goal is to kill Russians and make money. Ukrainians are largely irrelevant to the strategic calculation here.

>>510368129 (OP)
WHAT A FUCKING DUMB RETARDED SHILL THREAD. EUROPE IS BUYING AMERICAN WEAPONS, THAT’S IT.

>>510375117
>no one trusts the west anymore
No one trusts *America* anymore, and that's for reasons entirely separate from the war. The collapse of US soft power started before the war and is more or less a product of the American political system being schizophrenic and unreliable. Recent European focus on hard power is also a product of this.

>This isn't a good thing, dumbass
Never said otherwise. But it is why this is taking place, and why it will continue to take place for the foreseeable future.

>you are the meat that will be thrown in the machine
As long as there's a long enough list of others to get thrown in first lol