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Anonymous ID: JvB8S+ZsGermany
7/14/2025, 7:15:01 PM No.510372702
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This paper argues that autocratic power use air power in a completely different way than demecracies, meanwhile democratic country use their airforce to primarely target the opponent command and control center and logistical hubs autocracies use their to displace the civilian population
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/14702436.2025.2522052?needAccess=true

How do you counter an autocratic regime, like Iran or Russia, from indescriminately targeting civilians while not even trying to go for military targets?
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Anonymous ID: T+RedUTjUnited States
7/14/2025, 7:17:05 PM No.510372870
Another loser with a PhD uses a journal as his personal blog.
I see it all the time.
>t. Academia faggot.
Anonymous ID: Pm9A2kWgGermany
7/14/2025, 7:18:56 PM No.510373018
>>510372702 (OP)
Did someone actually write a scientific paper based on media reports of military targets?
Academia need to be defunded.
Anonymous ID: O/IYC1L9United States
7/14/2025, 7:20:58 PM No.510373187
>israel doesn't count though
Anonymous ID: 9cVIDKE4Cyprus
7/14/2025, 7:24:19 PM No.510373443
>>510372702 (OP)
>How do you counter an autocratic regime, like Iran or Russia, from indescriminately targeting civilians while not even trying to go for military targets?
by shooting down the enemy planes/drones and winning the war.
attacking civilians in the end is a losing strategy because the enemy's ability to fight doesn't change while you waste time and resources.
Anonymous ID: OQ87qblxGermany
7/14/2025, 7:24:26 PM No.510373451
>>510372702 (OP)
>bad guy targets civilians
>lowest civilian/military casualty ratio of any war in the past 100 years
>good guy targets command and logistics
>consistently has the highest civilian/military casualty ratios in all their conflicts
i call bs on it
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Anonymous ID: 3A+h1wVpSpain
7/14/2025, 7:32:15 PM No.510374085
>>510372702 (OP)
Israel status?
Anonymous ID: RTiXNb0MFinland
7/14/2025, 7:33:38 PM No.510374192
>>510373451
Stop noticing, that's illegal in Germany
Anonymous ID: nGVQ0z/1United States
7/14/2025, 7:35:09 PM No.510374308
>>510372702 (OP)
>muh democracies vs autocracies
Another worthless article
Anonymous ID: abusNgynMoldova
7/14/2025, 7:36:28 PM No.510374420
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>>510372702 (OP)
Contemplate the fact that the average Westrooner will read statements like this and fail to perceive the turbo-clown-world parallel reality it presents.
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Anonymous ID: abusNgynMoldova
7/14/2025, 7:38:01 PM No.510374528
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>>510374420
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Anonymous ID: 3A+h1wVpSpain
7/14/2025, 7:40:58 PM No.510374763
>>510373451
just a coincidence, doesn't invalidate the theory
Anonymous ID: abusNgynMoldova
7/14/2025, 7:41:16 PM No.510374787
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>>510374528
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Anonymous ID: abusNgynMoldova
7/14/2025, 7:43:54 PM No.510375004
>>510374787
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP1OAD9jSaI

Another well-known democratic principle is that starving the autocratic tyranny's child control centers and civilian logistical hubs is "worth it".
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Anonymous ID: 2Kp2fZW5
7/14/2025, 7:44:59 PM No.510375090
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>>510372702 (OP)
>democratic country use their airforce to primarely target the opponent command and control center and logistical hubs
lol
lmao
Anonymous ID: Ya8F+3PBUnited States
7/14/2025, 7:45:31 PM No.510375135
>>510372702 (OP)
My "democracy" firebombed Tokyo in 1945 on the night of March 9-10. We burned 16 square miles of the city to the ground and killed 100,000 Nips in their sleep. Now ask me about atomic bombs.
Anonymous ID: abusNgynMoldova
7/14/2025, 7:46:30 PM No.510375211
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>>510375004
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Anonymous ID: 6De38qhvLatvia
7/14/2025, 7:47:45 PM No.510375313
>>510372702 (OP)
My German great grandfather and great uncle were both killed by British bombing of German cities towards the end of WW2. It wasn't strategic it was just revenge murders at that point.
Anonymous ID: abusNgynMoldova
7/14/2025, 7:47:56 PM No.510375331
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>>510375211
I'm starting to wonder if there's a civilian population that Western democracy hasn't bombed at some point in the last 100 years.
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Anonymous ID: Kn2DsxB0United States
7/14/2025, 7:48:31 PM No.510375389
>>510372702 (OP)
Israel,the only democracy!!!! in the ME bombs civilians all willy nilly without care of consequences
bullshit paper

same with the Us

>it's literally the inverse of reality
Anonymous ID: abusNgynMoldova
7/14/2025, 7:50:15 PM No.510375520
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>>510375331
Anonymous ID: Kn2DsxB0United States
7/14/2025, 7:50:55 PM No.510375573
actually getting low key mad rn
people who wrote such bombastically retarded lies like this should have their femurs and fingers snapped repeatedly for years
Anonymous ID: IOlX5ZOgUnited States
7/14/2025, 7:53:25 PM No.510375769
>>510372702 (OP)
The most retarded thing the west does, is pretend that civilians are not legitimate targets. Civilians are a resource just like power plants and factories churning out ammunition. It's also where manpower is pulled for active fighting.

Western style wars cost too much, and just makes generational conflict inevitable as kids grow up to avenge their fallen relatives. Better for your own country if entire families are wiped out.
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Anonymous ID: ESjcM5uRUnited States
7/14/2025, 7:55:44 PM No.510375952
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>>510372702 (OP)
>How do you counter an autocratic regime, like Iran or Russia, from indescriminately targeting civilians

You misspelled ISRAEL.
Anonymous ID: abusNgynMoldova
7/14/2025, 7:56:00 PM No.510375974
>>510375769
>The most retarded thing the west does, is pretend that civilians are not legitimate targets.
The most retarded thing """the West""" does is to condemn targeting civilians while it does so continually, ranging from economic warfare against the poor to straight up bombing their urban centers.
Anonymous ID: A0n6ptPnFinland
7/14/2025, 8:00:46 PM No.510376315
>>510372702 (OP)
authoritarians care about civilians: their own. if everyone is same ethicity then what do you need democracy for? everyone is the same and votes for the "my people run this country" government.
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Anonymous ID: abusNgynMoldova
7/14/2025, 8:02:55 PM No.510376460
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>>510376315
>authoritarians care about civilians: their own
Kek. I love this board so much. Every time I feel inadequate I come to this place where everyone is 80 IQ and feel like a turbo-genius in comparison.
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Anonymous ID: A0n6ptPnFinland
7/14/2025, 8:05:21 PM No.510376647
>>510376460
genociding minorities isnt at odds with what I posted.
Anonymous ID: 74wvqI1VCanada
7/14/2025, 8:19:01 PM No.510377676
>>510372702 (OP)
>meanwhile democratic country use their airforce to primarely target the opponent command and control center and logistical hubs autocracies use their to displace the civilian population
From what we've seen with actual real life empirical evidence:

- democratic countries use their airforce to primarily target civilian gatherings/weddings and to displace the civilian population

Source: Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Lebanon as perpetrated by the US and Israel.

- what autocratic countries? The only autocracy with a somewhat functional airforce is Russia and their airforce ranks (especially after the recent Ukrainian operation) like 4th or 5th in the world behind the US Air Force, the US Navy, the US Army, and the US Marine Corps individually.

China isn't autocratic since the CPC could easily overthrow Xi if it wanted. And Kim Jong Un barely has anything that could be called an air force. So who are they even talking about lmao.
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Anonymous ID: 74wvqI1VCanada
7/14/2025, 8:20:28 PM No.510377800
>>510377676
Oh and Gaza is the big one we've seen lately.
Israel precision striking the children of doctor's and journalist's. Sugoi.
An Incredibly Super Very Serious Shit Poster ID: cgqEELKZUnited States
7/14/2025, 8:24:13 PM No.510378113
Frens
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>shit no one cares about enthusiast has a paper guise.
Anonymous ID: LBJo0sfRSpain
7/14/2025, 8:27:46 PM No.510378428
>>510372702 (OP)
>muh precision weapons
SA-Yemen war:
half a million deaths by STARVATION btw
Anonymous ID: SJU1T/c6Denmark
7/14/2025, 8:31:13 PM No.510378692
>>510372702 (OP)
If the reason is the difference in effects on the target based on their political system, it's pretty bizarre to conclude that it has to do with the political system of the attacker.
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Anonymous ID: cdFYB1byUnited States
7/14/2025, 8:47:18 PM No.510379991
>>510372702 (OP)
fire bombing dresden and tokyo. nuking 2 other cities of civilians in japan. yea idk about op
Anonymous ID: abusNgynMoldova
7/14/2025, 8:52:44 PM No.510380434
>>510378692
>If the reason is the difference in effects on the target based on their political system, it's pretty bizarre to conclude that it has to do with the political system of the attacker.
You'd think bombing the civilians and infrastructure of a """democratic""" nation would exercise leverage over a """"democratic""" government while bombing the civilians of an authoritarian shithole would have no effect, but in practice, Westroon nations are more than happy to kill off both their own civilians and those of their enemies.