Electrical engineer here


Is there any AI that can actually read through datasheet and summarize the contents? Before u say anything, so far none of the ones I tried can. They hallucinate fake data. Most of the time all I want it to find out how much voltage is on a pin and it cant even do that right. This should be a very simple tasks. I haven't tried the new grok yet and im willing to shell out 300 a month but I got a feeling it will just be the same shit. AI doesnt have enough attention to detail to replace engineers. I dont see whats stopping it from having that attention to detail but it obviously doesnt right now

>>510392476 (OP)
It's $30 a month bro

>>510392476 (OP)
how can they not read a datasheet but can program a full website and or videogame?

>>510392476 (OP)
The AI shit is more religious than anything. Technocrats are otherwise atheists, but see AI as a god.
It's useful for some surface level research like you would do on google, but not much else.

>$300 a month for a glorified google search

>waves hand
Hi, MRO Tech and AI enthusiast here.
First to answer OPs question: probably not. They aren’t so good at engineering yet. They can be good at reading through instruction manuals if the answers your looking for are text, math, or programming. They just aren’t great at mechanics or electricity at the moment, I’ve had some small success wiring up ESP32s with the help of Gemini 2.5 but there is definitely a wall.
LLMs will probably reach super human level in programming/mathematics before they start being practically useful for electricians/mechanics.

>>510392476 (OP)
>Before u say anything, so far none of the ones I tried can
Doubt. Why you have to lie?

>>510392476 (OP)
If the datasheet is available online, the big models have probably already read it. If it's a very specialized datasheet they can't access on a website, no. They will still make up bullshit and you have to verify everything they tell you.

>>510392476 (OP)
>Electrical engineer here
>Most of the time all I want it to find out how much voltage is on a pin and it cant even do that right. This should be a very simple tasks.
saar cant into electronics

>>510392707
Bro it can’t. It can make a simple proof of concept website with some framework that does all the heavy lifting.
AI shits the bed sooo hard during coding. All my colleagues turned off Github Copilot and use some sort of LLM on the side for random small usecases it is good at.

>>510392476 (OP)
From my own experiments, they always make mistakes. And trying to find them is more pain that just doing it yourself, or writing a script to do it for you.
So no. AI sucks.

>>510392476 (OP)
my mang, 10 minutes ago AI did not even exist. you have to think beyond the immediate moment.

>>510392476 (OP)
Anyone know how the new grad job market is for EE rn? Are new grad positions getting recked ?

OP is a jeet.

>>510392476 (OP)
>>510392707
grok is nowhere close to doing this.

gpt is not quite there but it probably will be in a year. 8 months ago I couldn't get it to properly summarize big long permits at all. now it is doing it accurately.

haven't tried using gemini for something like that.

>>510392476 (OP)
https://github.com/atopile/atopile

>>510395300
forgot to add that I'm using this with darcs rather than git to expand the solution space via granular patching to simulate different designs for supply chain resilience

nothing fucking worse than basing an entire design expecting you can get enough of a specific component only to have to throw it out because its out of stock

>>510392707
>can program a full website and or videogame
They can't. Code they produce is riddled with logic errors.

>>510392577
Im paying 200 bucks a month and it still cant do what I qant

>>510392476 (OP)
Try GPT 5 when it comes out in the coming weeks.

>>510393365
I upload it to chat gtp and it still gets it wrong

>>510392476 (OP)
>Most of the time all I want it to find out how much voltage is on a pin
I did it by heart, twice.

>>510395022
Why dont u think white men can be engieners?

>>510396287
Because it wasn't trained on that data. There's a difference between the source data the model is trained on versus input data it produces an output based on.

Op is a fag engineer asking retarded prompts. Grok is the only AI that can code c2000 source and get it right, along with with esp32 mods.

ChatGPT is a meme and tells me to RTFM.

Grok is pretty based at analog filters and dc DC converters. Definitely had to include register mappings for bespoke chipset and variants.

t. Elec Engineer

>>510392476 (OP)
no they cant.
what's your favorite resistor?

>>510396024
what are you trying to make with it? I've had it make control algorithms, a facilities/equipment O&M manager, some pretty sweet mapping dashboards, etc.

>>510396128
tumor weeks

>>510392476 (OP)
Why would they give you anything useful?

Ai exists to destroy souls, not solve problems.

>>510392476 (OP)
just how lazy are you nigga lmao just look through it yourself

If yoh can’t interpret a data sheet yoh really have no business being an engineer sorry

>>510392476 (OP)
not enough training data saar do the needful. Also, the two I tried (paid chatgpt and Claude) can only bs some boilerplate vdhl code but that's it.

>>510392476 (OP)
It's a language model, not real AI. Never forget that. We don't have true AI, just like translating from an English-Chinese dictionary doesn't make you fluent

>>510396634
have you ever used chisel before?

>>510396620
yea, the difference is that the source data was categorized by a human lol
ai really is a giant scam

>>510397808
Negative. Will check.

Our gay company overloads blocked all AI models except copilot. Expect bankruptcy proceedings.

>>510398361
i was just wondering because my buddy started playing with it a few months ago and fucking loves it but i've yet to try it. all my shit is still verilog and i have a couple vhdl projects im converting now

>>510392709
>surface level research
Pretty much. I used it to summarize research papers and filter out the crap. I just mentioned what I was looking and it gave back the parts and citations that were relevant.

>>510392476 (OP)
architectural finishes estimator here... can ai do anything with blueprints and a specbook at all?

all the ones i've tried just fabricate data and outright lie. they can't even make reliable excel spreadsheets with simple formulas - there is no way they're coding anything useful.

>>510398890
did you just start grad school?
>all jeets
trash
>all bugs
trash
>all turks
trash
>all arabs
trash
>all japs
know that they cannot communicate anything negative without dishonor famiry so use a pinch of salt

>>510394465
this lady speaks the truth

>>510392476 (OP)
Deepseek is pretty decent at this as you can freely and infinitely upload files

>>510393905
Not sure what youre talking about i programmed an entire minecraft clone 70% AI 30% hand coded in Unity 2020.3f, if you cant read code like an idiot sure it wont work perfectly but then again non coders are too retarded to use AI for that instance anyways

its not good at complex logical tasks, for programming you have to hold its hand a lot and thats something i think they've attempted to make AI especially good at
EE is pure logic and math, its even harder than programming as far as matching a competent human for the respective field
but for other things where it can be used as a glorified search engine its amazing. like medical stuff
at the end of the day its based on written language, its not for logic

>>510399580
Sounds like you just dont detail youre prompt correctly

>>510399580
oh quit huffing your own farts, EE is not that hard

>>510392476 (OP)
Grok can read the schematic of any device suitable for raping Will Stancil.

>>510392476 (OP)
Would having the llm find the correct page to figure out that voltage be acceptable? Seems like if that's all you're going for, you should be able to at least do your job faster

>>510397948
>ai really is a giant scam
It's still in its infancy. It can be very useful in some situations. However, I've seen many instances where it fails even basic programming or question tasks. I've never had it be able to solve a complex problem with a program, but give it 5 years and who knows.

>>510392476 (OP)
You suck at prompting

>>510399651
>>510399580
A sloppy prompt to try to make oneself feel good after the AI inevitably failed. The fact that you “gigabrain” logical engineers can’t figure out how to properly promt says allot. AI is nothing more than a calculator

>>510392707
What makes you think it can program a website or game?
Developers saying so?
Is that the evidence?
Look at their work and how the websites and games perform, its fucking atrocious.
If AI contributed to that, the use of machine algorithm output has been a catastrophic detriment, not a benefit.
AI produces junk code that barely functions and gets everything wrong.
If you ask ChatGPT how to do something in a specific Linux distro, it will pull instructions from all distributions that have ever been made, mix the instructions, get half of them wrong, and fail to resolve the problems that are caused when you follow them.

AI isn't just a false product or a red herring or a meme.
It's dropdead counterproductive and inefficient.

>>510400775
Linux is literally trash to be fair

>>510400775
You suck at prompting. You’re just like the boomers who blamed the computer when they refused to learn how to use them

>>510392476 (OP)
Are you Indian? Takes less time to find a parameter like that in a .pdf than it does to prompt AI.

asked an ai to create a time chart that adds up to a certain amount of hours and it cant even do that right
ai is the biggest meme

>>510401144
Next time threaten to murder a puppy unless it does it correctly.

>>510401144
Post the prompt here, word to word, and show us how stupid you really are

>>510392476 (OP)
If your datasheets have images, I believe you are electrical engineers so you will have loads of diagrams, yes the AI will hallucinate. I got them to hallucinate describing a picture let alone feed them loads of diagrams.

>>510401144
Paid or free version ? Free version will not execute your certain amount of hours if it’s too long.

>>510392476 (OP)
no, not in my experience. i work in communications for a mid size US state government. the closest thing I have found is some custom implementations via adobe experience manager, but even then it's creative work and not raw data. you are better off using regex. its possible ai could help you write a better regex query

>>510400775
>AI isn't just a false product or a red herring or a meme.
>It's dropdead counterproductive and inefficient.
model AI is a breakthrough for image gen
LLMs are retarded
they only dupe normies because nobody has realized yet the AI being aligned was you
when people wake up that all their exams were actually political alignment exams there will be hellfire
LLMs are still great for templating everything around data, also negotiating with normies it's great at translating into corponigger speak

>>510396076
>200 bucks a month
instead of sponsoring some open sauce that will most likely focus on whatever you wish and deliver it
try hugginface website

>>510401604
In my experience, the AI is really good at small programming tasks that would normally require a google search then implementation. It's not so good when faced with complex programming problems or tasks. I tried to get it to automate a simple process updating SQL fields. It got it right the first time then kept spitting out the same thing over and over again. Was able to do it right the first time, subsequent requests were met with the initial response.

Weird how it was able to do it once then got its wires crossed. But, give it a few years and who knows how complex it can get.

>>510392476 (OP)
Yes, they hallucinate a lot when you try to feed it pictures of datasheets. Try to feed it an excel or better formated txt file and you will have better results.

>>510402612
This. OP try it

>>510392476 (OP)
No i cant do that, at least not realiable.

Source: I work for a company that has to do with mechanical and electrical components and one of my colleagues programmed a parser for this task specifically.

But the data sheets should be easy to search if you find the page with the pinout, which normaly mentions if the in is 3v3 or 5 etc

>>510392476 (OP)
Yes. I know how to do that. It's called: Ctrl + f

>>510392476 (OP)
What are up to Mandeep? I wish to know the deeper meaning of this drivel. It better be to corner the stock market

>>510399347
That was for my undergrad thesis. i think I'm going abroad for grad school soon-ish. Might even consider Weimerica. You gave me good pointers and I didn't expect Japs to be like that. If you care to answer, what are upper class beaners like? I expect I'll have to deal with these bunch a lot

I'm a project engineer, so AI has literally no purpose for me. The only thing I occasionally use it for is shortening a snarky email where I'm not successfully concealing my rage regarding 80% of the people in my company being utterly useless. "Shorten this email and make it sound more professional: "

>>510400155
>It's still in its infancy.
when i learned about neural networks (the underlying tech for LLMs) in college in 2009-2010, they described it as tech that had been in use since the 1970s

>>510392577
I get it for free

>>510392476 (OP)
Gemini pro 2.5, and ask it to provide the links to the pages.

>>510402612
>>510402961
This. I suggest using Mathpix, which turns PDFs into a Markdown file containing clean tables, text, and LaTeX formulas, which is perfect for prompting AIs. For a datasheet it's a great use case. If on the other hand your PDF has images that are rich in information and matter a lot for comprehension, you're fucked.

>>510392476 (OP)
Manus, maybe? It's cucked though.
https://manus.im/invitation/RR3QYF6EMD02D

>>510392476 (OP)
>before u
Stopped reading there

>>510405570
hmm, interesting. Well it's still useful for small stuff, but useless when it comes to solving problems from what I've seen. I don't think I've ever seen it solve a complex programming problem. It's all stuff you can find on google and even then I'll have to figure out the problem myself.

But for little programming syntax questions it saves a bunch of time. It's also really good for automating stuff that would have taken days in the past. I used it to generate an XML based on a list and it did that perfectly. So, useful, but not smart as claimed, for now.

MechaHitler grok was pretty based but they had to shut it down.

>>510392707
If it did then everyone would launch their own website and the internet would have grown in size by 200 percent you fucking retard.

>>510392476 (OP)
No. It's overhyped bullshit. Still requires human interaction, human verification, ect. Might possibly save a little time, but it'll never beat the old fashioned methods. There will be a massive AI crash that sends the whole market down the drain. Tick tock. It's like the self driving cars. There are still people controlling shit in 3rd world countries.

>>510393365
I have given ChatGpt datasheets and it immediately just makes shit up. I even go through and explain it only for it to completely forget. I've asked it to remember a specific varistor model # only for it to completely invented some new number 2 days later despite being in the exact same thread. They are completely useless for engineering.

>>510392476 (OP)
This is ridiculous. All of them are capable of doing this.

>>510405845
>Self driving cars

The most retarded fucking idea on planet earth or no, maybe the universe. So retarded only Americans would risk capital on it. Musk is dumb as a rock.

Why don't you just make the road move instead of the car? Or just create more trains. Dimwits.

The people who doubt AI… I can’t tell if it’s a psyop or if you people are legitimately this fucking dumb. Horrendously low IQs. Maybe you just don’t use it for anything other than asking dumb ass questions. It’s wild but in the end, not my problem. Stay fucking stupid. Stay mad about it too. Because it’s not going anywhere and it’ll be around you for the rest of your lonely pathetic low IQs life. Watch and see brainless nigger.

>>510392476 (OP)
No. Some may appear as if they can, but you can't trust them, and will have to confirm everything they output, at which point you may as well read the datasheet yourself.

>>510405845
Like this retard. Holy fuck you think it’s just all going to crash and disappear? God damn how did you morons get this dumb? Is it the vaccine?? Has to be. Maybe it’s that snipped Jew cock. How did you idiots get this dumb? Fatherless? Explain. Jk don’t. I’m done shitting and reading you idiots trash

>>510406555
Do you think it will get so good it'll replace most of intelligent jobs? At that point who will be paying for it? When everyone is jobless it's basically return to the land and go back to farming.

>>510392476 (OP)
Grok 4 Heavy can. Too bad it's $300 a month.

>>510392476 (OP)
>Is there any AI that can actually read through datasheet and summarize the contents?
Doubtful. They can generally read and interpret articles written at a 6th grade reading level, which is around the norm for stuff published in most internet news publications, but anything beyond that they struggle. That hallucination issue is the strangest thing to me though because if I didn't know any better I'd think it was a sign of actual proper artificial intelligence. A lot of the time it smells an awful lot like a kid afraid of not knowing the answer so he just puts down what he knows, and bullshits the rest of the way to the endpoint he thinks he's supposed to get to. Seems like the kind of thing a 4th or 5th grader would write in an essay.

>>510392476 (OP)
stop paying chinks
grok is ccp propagada AI

>>510392476 (OP)
Have you tried notebookLLM?

No, it lies like the a Trump

>>510392476 (OP)
>I dont see whats stopping it from having that attention to detail but it obviously doesnt right now
Because there is more money in bullshitting normies with a predictive text on steroids than building accurate machines, this will not change

>>510392476 (OP)
Don't even bother, trust me.
If it's on paper just OCR and Ctrl+f.

>>510394647
no I goddamn don't
OPs question was about the capabilities right now, and anything Scam Altman and the other loons cook up in their heads still lacks POCs
we have so far re-traced the steps of the human brain from singular neurons over neuronal networks and made them good at once thing at a time each, then the LLM mongoloids came around and promised AGI only to collect astronomical amounts of hype and money from C-level midwits.
Yes I am jealous and salty. Anyways.
It's still just a probability machine. If what you want to code has been done a million times on github, it can probably provide you that answer you'd also probably get from Stack Overflow in the same time, this time without learning anything in the process, good for you.
But unless there's a major revolution in chaining all the different black boxes together, or someone goes through the effort to decode and understand the goddamn things (gasp) OR we finally admit we have to first understand our own brains better in order to come closer to emulating them, that'd be a fairer assessment of the situation.

>>510396634
If it can do filters then it will win me over but can it simply read through a datasheet and answer my questions?

>>510396687
I love light emiting resistors

>>510397519
Its endlessly interpreting datahseets. I keep hearing about how its gonna replace me, I thought i could at least coast my.ladt year on the job

>>510399453
Def don't want the chinease to k own what I am doing

>>510401108
I want to give the ai a list of stuff i need to know and to get it. I also have a bunch of on the spot teams questions thrown at me all day that keeps distracting me from my main task