Thread 510424336

>Ukrainian civilians don't want to die as soldiers
>Don't have enough money to bribe recruiting officers
>Decided to go rogue and use Telegram to tell Russian soldiers where the recruiting office is located.
>Ukrainian conscription offices were bombed.
What's the point of having a war at this point?
The underclass civilians have de facto mutinied, the next step is to join the guerrillas called the Resistance.

Isn't that pretty hypocritical since Russian civilians are also being conscripted?

>>510424453
>since Russian civilians are also being conscripted?

we have no enforced conscription for svo mutt

>>510424336 (OP)
Russia seems even more desperate lately

>>510424336 (OP)
I guess this is the beginning of the end for Ukraine

>>510424453
Kek Russians are so outraged at the idea that NATO and the NEOCONS are trying to destroy their country with this proxy war that there's more volunteers than the military is prepared to handle.

>>510424723
>>510424724
Notice it's always a leaf flag. Need to research why. Offshore jeet posters?

>>510424615
>we have no enforced conscription for svo mutt
Why do you lie? Russia conscripts over a million twinks a year.

>>510424615
forgive him he's trans and jewish

>>510424806
chinks and pajeets are half of /pol/ now. just look at OP who forgot to turn on the memeflag

>>510424615
>crashes the economy
>poors struggle
>conveniently pays for VOOLOONTEERING
Snownigger, Dostoyevski would have come up with this level of Russian misery if he'd had enough time.

>>510424876
kek I just noticed that wtf

>>510424806
maybe i`m one of the 88% of ukrainian men who don`t want to join the armed forces using a vpn

i noticed how you responded with an adhom and nothing else. i see this as proof that i won

>>510424336 (OP)
based af

>>510424945
no you obviously aren't and I figured it out already. So bizarre. You get paid off shore to shill for a country that can't even conquer a dump like Ukraine kind of sad life choices Sanjay

>>510424336 (OP)
lol

>>510424615
pretty sure ukraine also burned draft centers in kursk

>>510424615
>no enforced conscription
What exactly do you mean?
Can you refuse conscription and face no punishment? That's how I'd interpret non enforcement. I'd also say that's not conscription at all, like how disobeying a law that's never enforced implies that there really is no law to speak of.
Unless you mean there's selective enforcement, which is just corrupt.

>>510425207
It's just the usual vranyo. Their culture is based around lying simply because you can do it. Dostoyevsky wrote a whole essay on it out of revulsion with his countrymen.

Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40JmEj0_aVM

nobody gets to svo unless he wants to on our side

>>510424336 (OP)
That's unfair. Probably a war crime. So mean. STOP IT! please

>>510425051
ok but only 12% of men who join the ukrainian armed forces volunteered

>>510425207
What he means is that Russia doesn't have conscription centers that pull people off the streets and throw them in the front lines. Russian soldiers in Ukraine are volunteers. Russia does have a national conscription system like Finland does where every adult male serves for 12 months but that's merely basic training and those people don't get sent to the front lines in general, they did use these conscripts in Kursk though.

>>510425658
>Russia does have a national conscription system like Finland does where every adult male serves for 12 months but that's merely basic training and those people don't get sent to the front lines in general, they did use these conscripts in Kursk though.
They're using them almost everywhere. That's one reason why they claim 4 Oblasts as Russia, because they can be deployed to Russia and say "look, we're not mooobilising!"

>>510425658
>but that's merely basic training and those people don't get sent to the front lines in general
Oh to be so pure of heart

>>510426125
This is correct and the only reason one would "annex" territory you don't control. Now they're trapped by this very thing though, and can't end the war until they have their own borders according to Russian law. But that's going to take another decade of meatgrinding.

>>510426268
Conscripts just aren't very effective troops, if people don't want to be on the frontlines then they simply won't be fighting very well and probably shouldn't be in the front lines. It's pointless to send in the 18 year olds from national conscription before they learn to shoot when there's an ample stream of volunteers that have actually finished their basic training already lining up to join.
It's just a fact that Russia has not issued a general mobilization the same way Ukraine has.

>>510424336 (OP)
>What's the point of having a war at this point?
How else do you make room for jews?

>>510424336 (OP)
Yea that’s always been a thing in war. Sieges are a bitch. At any time your own people will slit your throat

>>510424336 (OP)
what's a social support center?

>>510424453
your nation has a draft (selective service).

the difference in ukraine is that they forcibly abduct people from the streets to go into the grinder. that wouldn't work in the us, nor russia. and it's counter-productive, simply because people who don't want to fight make poor soldiers.

>>510427034
Job and Family Services in the West. DCFS

>>510427105
why would ziggers bomb that? are they trafficking children?

>>510427103
America doesn't have a draft, it had a draft in the past and could have one in the future but currently doesn't.
And if it did it would make not one iota of difference to the morality of conscripting anyone else in any other country at any time.
Some people would cringely call this fallacy whataboutism.

>>510427237
to make leftists like you seethe

>>510427279
im just curious

>>510427270
Selective service is a draft system, it is simply not activated. In Russia theirs is activated since USSR times. Many countries around the world draft. But Russian draftees aren't used in the SMO save for very rare occasions (Kursk during the start, and at the start of the SMO due to commander corruption and incompetence).

>>510427270
>whine about whataboutism
>his first reply is literally whataboutism about russia

>>510427270
selective service is a draft in you're registering yourself to be called up; it's for everyone.

when you force people to fight against their will, you're functionally killing them. the better course of action is to put them in factories and other civilian roles that help the war effort.

>>510427426
>it is simply not activated. In Russia theirs is activated
We're talking about the same thing no matter how much you want to split hairs and discuss trivial points of semantics.
BTW that goes for the term SMO too.

That's actually kinda funny

>>510424336 (OP)
Based. Im glad the ukies are finally getting some justice.

>>510424834
Not true, faggot.

Muscovy wants to bomb a lot of shit; they can write whatever they want with their mongol runes - Shit isn't magic and won't guide them any closer to their intended target, you'll still only bomb fast food joints and playgrounds.

>>510425207
He means that Russia doesn't have a conscription for the war specifically, only a general purpose training conscription (1 year), which is a lot easier to evade because you can leave the country freely until they actually send you the draft notice

>>510427825
obvious hohol. Why don't you go back to hoholandia and volunteer?

It took ziggers 3.5 years to finally figure out that hohol pigs cant be conscripted into the meatgrinder if their kikescription centers dont exist.
This whole gay kike war is scripted by some hook nosed gigakike i'll tell you that much

>>510427707
cope shitskin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Russia

>>510425125
Ukraine wasn't in Kursk city, they were in small 1000 population villages in the Kursk region. What would be the point of staffing a draft office outside of the main city nearby, just to recruit an eligible population of like 1 or 2 residents per month? Are you retarded?

>>510427825
>mongol runes
are retards here so buckbroken by the mutts that they are now proud of ignorance?

>>510427103
>and it's counter-productive
unlesss
your goal was do reduce the population of the nation that you have hijacked in a plausible and deniable manner

>>510424834
Russia has mandatory service for 18(?)yos. Those conscripts cannot be used in combat without a declaration of war. Russia's "SMO" is distinguished from war legally because it means they can only use volunteers in the conflict. Even the penal battalions were volunteers. You can watch videos of the prison recruitment that Wagner did.

>>510428775
>Those conscripts cannot be used in combat without a declaration of war.
Why were they then?

>>510427525
It's an SMO because they would be obliged to make war on all of Europe and the US otherwise. Unfortunately for you Russia is not going to put you out of your misery with nuclear hellfire.

>>510424336 (OP)
United States, Eternal Anglos, and Europe are forcing and bribing Ukrainian politicians to continue war

Government workers are so funny

>>510424336 (OP)
>What's the point of having a war at this point?
hamburgers?

>>510427525
>Mutt is too retarded to understand the difference between conscription and mobilization
Another case of "muh freedums".

>>510424336 (OP)
>poltava
>kharkov
>kremenchug
>zaporozhye
>krivoy rog
they've been only bombing the TCC offices in places where banderites aren't very popular. that is, the south and east of the country. i kinda wanna see if bombing tcc offices in lvov or lutsk would draw the same reaction from the public.

>>510424453

>america is a failed state and your life is worse than the average European or Russian's by a long way
>jewcraine can only recruit by dragging old men off the street
>Russia does not force conscript anyone, it does not send national servicemen into combat and their voluntary recruitment has surpassed 1000 a day
>every day Russia is winning, every day jewcraine is losing
>Russia has maintained a 20:1 K/D ratio for the entire war
>You will never be a woman

also, today i will remind them
>most motivated ukrainian conscript

>>510435342
>20:1
holy shit this dude, you live in the era of the internet and yet you believe whatever the fuck government sources tell you.

>>510424723
>Russians are so outraged at the idea that NATO and the NEOCONS are trying to destroy their country with this proxy war that there's more volunteers than the military is prepared to handle.
That's a new level of self hatred.

>>510424615
Because you are not attacked by enemy who wants to genocide you and you have to fight for your whole existance. like you are doing to ukraine every day you are sending them hundreds drones and rockets to kill kill kill ukrainians

FUCK RUSSIA

if you were in ukraines boots, everyone would be mobilized!!!!

>>510424615
kek if NATO would actually attack russia the you would be vanned and to the front in a matter of hours, nigga. With weapons aiming at you if you try to retreat. History repeats and you might live to see that shit. Just know that you chose it.

>>510436754
>if you were in ukraines boots
"If"
> who wants to genocide you
check Israel, this is how genocide works

solution is simple
Force cocaine Zelensky to surrender
Show the same determination that you had on the Maidan

>>510436856
we'd just nuke entire NATO from submarines with hypersonics and be done
live happily ever after

>>510438489
>nook
k

>>510424834
Except they can ignore the notice and they wont get dragged off the streets
Faggot
They just lose thier passports and credit

>>510438662
welcome to 21th century, what else you'd expect

>>510438789
keep me posted, vanya

>>510438913
subcrscibe to my blog

>>510424336 (OP)
>The underclass civilians have de facto mutinied
Not yet, Putin is still in power for now.

>>510424336 (OP)
> the next step is to join the guerrillas called the Resistance.
Hohols won't do shit, they expect Russians to come and solve their problems for them. The mentality of hohol is that of an entitled toddler who is to be pampered and spoiled just for the fact of their existence.

>>510440706
>The mentality of hohol is that of an entitled toddler
just say belter state

>>510424336 (OP)
Ah, so this is way nafotrannies got hysterical.