Does this actually happen

>>510427308 (OP)
Yes. I was a communist as a teenager. After interacting with non-Whites in Toronto and discovering how much they hate White people, I stopped being a communist.

Fuck Antifa.

>>510427308 (OP)
The jews really are just that vile and disgusting

Horseshoe theory isn't just a meme

>>510427308 (OP)
Yeah some people get radicalized to be “cool” and don’t understand the underpinning ethos

>i'm a le ebin based nazi now
a leopard can't change it's retard spots

>>510427368
Highschool trains you to be a far left retard and being some antifa larper is the end result. Then you noticing things more and more and it all starts unraveling.

Antifa are just the most vile, chauvinistic expression of corporate power.

>>510427308 (OP)
I was a lib until my teens when the Zimzam trial gave me my first dose of the redpill. Something just clicked seeing how furiously they went after a clearly innocent man over shooting some hoodlum nigger

>>510427308 (OP)
>Does this actually happen
it's literally the same thing you absolute retards

>>510427308 (OP)
it happened to me but over the course of like 15 years

>>510427308 (OP)
makes sense considering /pol/ is predomaintly far left and brown

>>510427308 (OP)
pattern recognition is a hell of a drug

>>510427308 (OP)
the only difference between those two is whether you side with white people or not

>>510427308 (OP)
>Does this actually happen

Probably. If you're dumb enough to be an antifag edgelord you're dumb enough to be a natsoc edgelord.

>>510427308 (OP)
Actually, yes. That is exactly what happened at the end of the Weimar republic! How cool is that!? Huh?

My politics forever.

>>510427308 (OP)

>>510427308 (OP)
i was always against the mainstream and learned at a very young age that kikes are pushing antifa commie shit in schools

>>510427308 (OP)

>>510427308 (OP)
One thing that happens a lot of the times is that White men or Whites in general will join antifa groups and then there's such a huge concentration of the most dysgenic losers that they've ever seen in their entire fucking lives that their disgust response finally kicks in, and they become Nazis in response.

Joel Davis was famously a part of antifa, but then he got kicked out of antifa by the feminists there because he tried to actually organize and create hierarchy in the absence of order and hierarchy. Literally if you try to actually bring in some amount of competence or hierarchy in antifa groups you'll be labeled as a reactionary or Nazi and then be promptly kicked out by the feminists. Meanwhile Nazi groups will value order and hierarchy above all else, but still have slight amount of problems in actually creating it.

>>510427308 (OP)
100% that guy interacted with non-whites

>>510427308 (OP)
So you went from caring about people to serving Israel?

>>510428779
>Joel Davis
https://odysee.com/@MarkCollett:6/PWR233:d
It's the guy on the right

Every 1/1 post is Israeli propaganda. Look at the narrative they are selling.
Weird. Everyone is right wing pro Israeli.

>>510428887
/pol/ has always been right wing kike
Naturally us right wingers support white ethnostates against the brown horde

>>510428779
>>join fight club
Guys I gotta tell people!
>>get kicked out of fight club.
Fucking feminists!


You do understand antifa operates without leadership and has individual cells that can operate independently.
It's designed that way?
Antifa is designed to be cloudy like that on purpose.

Name Antifas leader so we may go arrest him. Oh you can't?
Yea I know.

You joined "antifa" (no you didn't) and the first thing you tried to do is dismantle it's entire structure into a heiarchy?

>>510427308 (OP)
Yup I was communist. Immigration and trannies "woke me up" for lack of a better term. We were tricked into thinking these low IQ niggers actually wanted equality. They don't.

>>510429029
I'm so sick of Israeli lies.

>>510429058
Do you realize now why there's so many fucking Nazis in the past 5 years? You're entirely immune to anything that would actually benefit your in-group. Hierarchy and order will always triumph over a bunch of disorganized mutts who act against the interests of society

>>510427308 (OP)
If you are either of both, I hope you are not older than 18.

>>510427430
It's almost impossible not to hate jews I don't know how people do it. They are the most hateable creatures on earth.

>>510429135
good for u

>>510429167
I'm 22 and staunch MAGA. ITZ DA JEWZ. Let's be honest we both know you don't believe that in real life.

>>510429058
It's more like you put on a mask and go out with group of friends and call yourself antifa. That's as deep as it goes. No network no cells or whatever gay shit. It's a bunch of larping nerds who think they are doing the right think and niggers and spics getting the upper hand.

>>510427308 (OP)
I went from NS to a tankie. It’s effectively the same thing tho just a more acceptable version

>>510429029
Moot sold it to a mossad agent and your use to having Israeli propaganda beams into your retarded head 24/7.
Or you are Israeli. Check out this dead body.

>>510429235
cringe. If you aren't MAGA you're not a real american

>Does this actually happen
I went from right libertarian to anarcho communist, so I imagine it is quite possible for someone to go from leftist to nazi.

>>510427308 (OP)
Might be true, I can see the same blind, childish zeal.

>>510428779
Antifa is a zionist sponsored controlled opposition, just like BLM and all the LGBTQ movements. It doesn't want to actually accomplish anything. It's just there to be as ridiculous and annoying as possible about non-issues like race, feminism and faggotry to make people realize that they're actually a joke and push them towards "right-wing" ideas.

>>510429289
Ok pedo jew

>>510429158
I don't belong to antifa nor identify with them.
I think they are weak and designed opposition to prevent more luigis.
I'm literally a self reliant woods leftist and hermit.

The only thing more retarded than a Democrat is a republican and the only thing kde retarded than that is a Israeli pretending to be swedish talking about Americans politics.

Israeli needs to shut the fuck up for a day or two.

>>510427308 (OP)
It can, but most of those are just jews infiltrating, AGAIN. Flying obvious flags like this shit is a crimson flag indicator you're dealing with a kike. Two years isn't enough time to properly synthesize all that information to magically become a pinwheel faggot. Not to mention, the better symbol is the Aryan Sun. People who use the mirrored pinwheel are basically LARPing. Plus, 'Nazi' comes from Ashkenazi; the name is a goal-post moved psy-op.

>>510427308 (OP)
10 years for me. By Obama's 2nd term, was getting real sick of all his race hustling

>>510429210
Black blocking is based. It goes deeper when your not just a astroturf republican boogieman.

Like when they did the Elon is a victim against Tesla.
You could of just bought a high powered laser off ebay and shot it into the cameras at a safe distance and destroy thousands of dollars without being seen or getting close..
One retard sets a car on fire and it's woe is me, I need 200 billion dollars in tax funds! Then, it was all for nothing because the fickle ass Israelis up in the white house got mad at the south African illegal anyway.

I want a refund.

I unironically believed in left wing talking points, then i grew up. Went through my libertarian phase, thinking we just need to get government out of things. I even joined a party and volunteered. Then i met the mouth breathers that vote first hand at the polls. It made me realise our fate is decided by actual retards. Nat soc is literally the only answer. Democracy is a joke. Id take a strong nationalist government any day of the week.

Maybe Democracy could work if we restricted voting to net positive tax payers, but good luck getting anyone to agree to that.

>>510429501

>>510429355
What do you think about immigration? Why do lefties support it? It doesn't make any sense even from a leftist standpoint you suppress and alienate your own working class pushing wages down and workers out of their jobs? Even the immigrants are exploited before even crossing the border.

>>510427308 (OP)
its real. once you see the light you cant go back to jewish faggotry

>>510429602
I copied my opinions on immigration because no one cares.
I never got a response to this in my life aside from being called a nigger usually. No one has addressed hr5678 my entire life and both parties expand it.

Republicans are too stupid to solve it and democrats are too weak.

Unionize foreign labor and make a constitutional amendment to force wages to be lateral and it removes all incentive to replace you and encourages domestic hiring.


Rounding them up and sending them home has been the MO for up years. Then the new crew is flew in.

>>510429602
Don't forget.
Texas praviso. Texas legalized illegal labor.

>>510427308 (OP)
Ultra liberal antifa requires an LOT of indoctrination and brainwashing, especially if you are a white, heterosexual, male.
Once you figure out the pyramid of (jewish) lies it's all based on it's very easy to swing violently in the opposite direction.

In Wiemar Germany many of the Red Shirts eventually joined the Brown Shirts (after their organization was destroyed). In that instance I think it was more about being a part of something (anything) that gave young men hope. Nationalism/Fascism is usually much more "hopeful" than Commie Antifa, which is much more "spiteful".
Commies / Antifa are ALWAYS the losers in a society.

>>510427308 (OP)
Not unusual if you're some secessionist stuck in the cold war to go from tankie light with some doubts about central banking to sieg heil in a few years, but this is peculiar.

>>510429742
Why wouldn't we be more focused on our own working class?

>>510429602
Close the visas.
Amendment to force equal wages so they can't just be bypassed by the next admin.
Immigration will solve it's self based on incentives.

Everyone is mad at the only group that can't change the process.
The business can not hire them.
The government can close the visas.
You can request domestic labor (at a premium).

They literally propagandized people into hating the only part of the process that is literally a effect and not a cause.

Of course it happens. Mentally ill people shift between different ideologies that support their psychosis. All these people (most of /pol/ included) want is a system that makes them feel justified and allows them to enact violence on whomever they don't like.

>>510429891
Profit motive.
It's literally explained in the post.

Hire 5 Mexicans and all their labor is free and they are deported without pay.
Bigger take home for white business owner.
Bigger bribes.
Bigger kick backs.
Nrke taxes to Israeli.


Brother you and the immigrant are the only ones who lose.

>>510429501
i love how in germany they have to break literal promises they made pre-election on lower energy costs. it would be too expensive and be ~5bn in total. previous day they decided to burn said 5bn on free fucking weapons to ukraine.

democracy has to stop.
we need sanity back and the jewish clowns incl. their forever wars out.

>>510427308 (OP)

>Does this actually happen

/pol/ infected the world, anon

>>510427308 (OP)
i went from watching murdoch murdoch 10 years ago to now being more and more of a communist everyday. i think the political spectrum is just the autism spectrum for BPD/insecure people who manifest their outside view of the world in the correct way to interpret current happening events. i still fucking hate israel tho

>>510427308 (OP)
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>>510429210
Yea pretty much. Intent VS reality.
Either way its ineffective beyond being used as republican(Israeli) propaganda

>>510427955
keep hiding behind your memeflag, you foreskin eating kike faggot

>>510427308 (OP)
you can be on the right side of history as a uniparty globohomo voting zionist anti-nazi
or
a nazi
500 genders, 2 political modes of being.

>>510431080
I get why naive people with social circles of exclusively their own people could be convinced of communism. how they could convince themselves everyone is as similar harmless as them and their friends (who they like) but I don't get how an autistic bogan would go for it. its just naive.

The socialism you want is national socialism.
defined benefactors and defined beneficiaries.
and the benefactors and beneficiaries are the same unifiable people.

>>510427308 (OP)
Everyone is a liberal when they're young because they have no idea about history.
Once you develop a pre-frontal cortex and the ability to recognise patterns you can clearly see them repeating into the future.
Jews and their influence (goyim-controlling psyops like Christianity, communism, multiculturalism, feminism) have fucked basically every country and caused untold death an misery.

>>510432150
Explain why the people in north Carolina begged for government assistant, fre phones, free money, and bitched when they didn't get it immediately?

You are leftist by need and right by greed. The average republican turns into a commie real fast the second it's convenient.

>>510430082
>>510429742
I still remain undressed completely..

Feelings over facts I guess.....

>>I Hate Mexicans more I love my children's future.
>>I love Israeli propaganda more than I love a solution other countries have already used to solve my problem.

God I fucking hate republicans(Israelis)

>>510427308 (OP)
>Does this actually happen
Communism is farthest left, and Socialism is between Communism and Center. So, he's just on the deradicalizing path. So it makes sense.

>>510427308 (OP)
I used to be a lefty, then a chud, now im a lefty again but racist and sexist and hate the jews

People who become NS either learn what it's actually about or think they've "switched sides". Antifa is so deranged that I honestly couldn't tell you, either they had a rare moment of clarity or they're just larping. Either way I almost never counter someone expressing our ethos.
Like if they're a tranny, faggot or non-white they will lose sight of objective reality before switching sides because they think we want to exterminate them.
Judging by this kids profile he probably thought antifa just meant "standing up to the mean people" until he learned the mean people are right.

I should note that thinking "Its the rich people's fault, they keep us down, abuse the working class and use the world as their oyster at everyones expense" is very easy to discover the secret that you add 'Jews' after the rich part and magically you somehow revolve right to the complete opposite direction of where you used to be even though you belive the same thing

>>510427308 (OP)
Look at Ana Kasparian, all it took was for her to get sexually assaulted and the entire Left turned on her for wanting to prosecute the POC rapist.

Now she finally gets it.

>>510433074
national socialism.it's in the name.

>>510433705
You mean the Jewish form of socialism? No thanks.

>>510427308 (OP)
The majority of the people that join these movements are just violent retards that want an excuse to beat people up. It's just circumstance that they didn't end up on the other side, or became a football hooligan instead.

>>510427308 (OP)
Anti establisment ideologies mix.
Real commies can become anarhists nationalists etc.

Key point is real. Upper middle class faggots that want more bureaucracy will never be anti establisment.

>>510431332
You would like russian man butt you nafo troon

Femboys are mentally ill fags who were groomed online to believe anything. Whatever seems trendy with memes and geek culture, they’ll follow it no matter the political motif.

Perfect example is the usual Hearts of Iron or World of Warships player.

>>510427308 (OP)
Happened to me toward ukrainians. At first I was totally pro-ukrainian, helping them with everything I could do. But then their blatant propaganda joined the party and it was the first red flag for me. Then I started googling their history and turned out they're as shit as russians, just yet another slav shithole with no virtue.

>>510427308 (OP)
If you are fighting against a globohomo corpo alliance manipulated by bankers and investors, it is only foolish not to realize that your opponents are jews.

>>510427546
Antifa LARPers were 50% glowniggers and 50% desperate teenagers and young adults who wanted easy problem girl pussy. Notice how geeky lefty men are also the biggest weasels and manipulators. Antifa relied mostly on subculture optics, which at the time was crust punk.

>>510429169
I'd agreed but god damn do these people slave themselves to ignoring everything they do.
So many people I know still try to pretend 'not all jews' even though they have pure evidence that says otherwise every time.
I pity those people. We're entering the time where it's pointless to try and turn them away from that path.

>>510433996
For some reason, I feel like I can have more enjoyable conversations with far leftists (not the type who blindly believe corpo bullshit) than with pro-system normoids. At least until the Wokism mind virus completely ruins the far left.
The HR cuck-suckers pretending to be anti-establishment is a modern horror story.

>>510427308 (OP)

>>510427308 (OP)
Yeah, usually by exposure to minorities.

>>510434131
sure you were memeflag

>>510427308 (OP)
For me it’s the other way.

>>510435155
>if someone has an opinion different from mine, he's a lair and it can't be happening

>>510427308 (OP)
>Does this actually happen
Where do you think you are?

Is there really that big of a difference between antifa and nazis anyway?
>hypercritical of capitalist power structure
>believes violent revolution is necessary for change
>radical thinking that disengages from mainstream politics as a vehicle for change.

The difference between antifa and nazis is literally nust the JQ. Do you recognize that the “capitalist global elite” are disproportionately made up of Bergsteins. That’s it; that’s the entire bridge.

"you can have any color you want as long as its Black"
-Henry Ford

>>510427579
>I was a lib until my teens when the Zimzam trial gave me my first dose of the redpill
Many such cases. Can't flim flam the Zim Zam.

>>510435591
pretty much, and once you note they are encouraging multiculturalism while maintaining a core exclusionary tribal identity themselves, and pitting everyone else against your tribe, which you have been convinced (by their media and cultural engineering) isn't important enough to defend.

yeah bro, I'm going to disagree.
its not the only bridge, they still have a ways to go.

>>510434611
Left and right is a dumb label but the meain problem with the left is that poeple who should be called bureaucratists occupy all important positions.
Poeple who dont give a fuck about workers equality living conditions and only care about current bureaucracy expanding. They are fine with blackrock owning everything. And they like wokeism because it creates more bureaucracy and gatekeeps jobs from poeple not familiarized with woke unwritten rules

>>510427579
I was a lib too, until I worked one of their campaigns as staff. I learned then they were full of shit and dangerous. I backed Trump for his first run and saw that go nowhere. Im far right now.

>>510430255
If it was democracy the outcome would of been different.
Your a captured nation. Me too.

>>510427308 (OP)
It happened in Germany itself in the 1920s, so yes.

>>510427308 (OP)
You’d have to be an idiot to have ever been an “anti-racist”. My whole life people have known me for being racist but no one took it seriously until I got political.

Now I’m under surveillance

>>510427643
It's predominantly cracker and kike

>>510435913
the A in NSDAP is for arbeiter or workers.
some (definitely not all) on the left are just misguided allies with the right that have been captured by the machine's controlled opposition and brainwashing.
We'll see if the rabbi losing control of the golem is significant enough for a wind change but I think the jew apparatus is just using it all as a pretext to get all the radicals they're having problems controlling now into one bucket. I guess what happens next depends on if they underestimated how big a bucket they were going to need.

>>510427308 (OP)
They are the same thing. An in group and an out group is developed and all the worlds problems are placed upon it.
Pure democracy is the only political movement based on the empowerment of individual self-efficacy.

>>510427357
This is diversity is actually necessary. I’ve talked to hundreds of nationalists over the years and there seems to be a magic formula:
>good sense of humour
>5 years of exposure to diversity in a non-civilized environment (school or anywhere where rules are arbitrary)
>amplified effect if you spent your childhood in the whitest possible place and then end up the most non-white place at the age of 12. The hypotheses is that being around foreigners in your development of biblical manhood (13 and beyond)/biological manhood development (puberty) leads you to having amplified opposition to diversify due to your instincts screaming that your outnumbered and thus living under a form of subconscious occupation

>>510435897
Using divisive identity politics to pit the working class against itself is something anarchists point out regularly. Who do you think it was that noticed rainbow capitalism as a direct and immediate public response to OWS? It wasn’t the natsocs who pointed that shit out. Everyone recognizes this.

I will grant that the anarchist side doesn’t really care about white nationalism or racial separation as an end goal. That’s actually probably the real bridge, that’s the thing that leads you to the JQ. Without that, even if you realize every banker in the world is Jewish, it doesn’t matter. You’re content to want them headless for being bankers.

>>510429158
There really aren’t that many outside of pol, the political right are trying to force a paradigm shift amongst right leaning voters because they know above all else that a voting base pumped up on hatred of the other will do as they’re told without exception. this board has been politically irrelevant for years

>>510436408
Jewish tactics is subvert all movements.
Every movement has a jewish/glownigger side trying to inject it no matter how small.
Im sure there somwhere there is some glownigger or a jew trying to make anarcho pastoralism support blackrock or back izrael.

>>510427955
>We at 4chan
Lol using the same script for everything.

>>510427308 (OP)
>people ask me about politics during highschool
>liberal about money, mostly center when it comes to societal issues
>say that I believe that some people need a helping hand (and it wasnt even about gibs)
>get a commie badge, because i guys were mpstly right wing in eastern europe
20y later, im more conservative but still treat far lefties and far right as a comedic material. Most of my friends from highschool that i still keep some kind of contact are more left-wing or just totaly dropped out of politics.
Its really all joke, at least in my country.

>>510427308 (OP)
They're probably still antifa. They just hate jews now and because of the fact they're antifa think that alone is what makes a nazi.

>>510437066
>Jewish tactics is subvert all movements
Extremely true. Read David Graeber’s account of the early days of OWS, it’s fascinating (even though I think Graeber technically counts as a jew). Almost immediately upon the inception of the idea, unrecognized outsiders show up and start loudly complaining about white men “dominating the conversation”, attempting to create a hierarchical structure that values “POC voices”, etc. Eventually that segment won the day and did meaningful damage, but in the beginning it basically came down to one of Graeber’s fully white friends loudly insisting that she was black (even though she absolutely was not) every time the issue was brought up to shut down the subversive critique.

Any time 3 people get together to threaten the system in any way, a 4th one will show up and go
>but maybe the bankers/capitalists/zog/jews aren’t our REAL enemy
absolutely and without fail. It’s fucking uncanny. It’s almost like the entirety of identity politics is a vehicle for stifling working class dissent and oh, look, leaked internal corporate documents showing diverse workplaces don’t unionize and oh, look again, it’s another jewish-owned media company promoting horribly offensive race mixing that nobody watches because they’re getting billions in slush fund money from a jewish investment firm and hey, there’s a pattern here

>>510427308 (OP)
when you see the list of deductions on the paycheck from your first job and realize you're "the rich."

>>510427308 (OP)
The Jew is now larping as a Jew hater.
Nothing new under the sun.

>>510427308 (OP)
the Vril edits on insta and tiktok are doing wonders
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0IFt7_hSiwE

>>510434198
Yeah, and MAGAts rape kids, don't they?

>>510436713
its not so much 'white nationalism'
its that you need a clearly defined unifiable group that is 'you' so that you can exclude 'them'.
its your house, and every 'them' you let in is one more vector of potential divide and conquer.
blood is thicker than water.
ideology is just words in your head, workers rights doesn't mean shit if all the workers are made to compete to survive and the workers are not a unifiable group. Its why multiculturalism is so vital to control, its an undefeated lever for D&C to protect their control over labor so that they can never be thrown off their money farms by the workers themselves and it always works.
Should it? No.
Do I wish we were better than that? Of course.
Are we? No. That's just naive idealism. It always works.
When it comes to securing their own livelihood workers have no loyalty to one another, being fellow workers isn't a significant enough bond.

Its 100% an arms race to build a social construct that can exclude them effectively.
"Fellow Workers" is something they've been subverting for thousands of years. Its their bread and butter.

>>510439877
>workers rights doesn't mean shit if all the workers are made to compete to survive and the workers are not a unifiable group
The general idea among the radical left is that workers ARE a unifiable group. That's the in-group, it's based on class.

>When it comes to securing their own livelihood workers have no loyalty to one another, being fellow workers isn't a significant enough bond.
It can be. Though admittedly identity politics is an extremely potent weapon against that way of thinking, which is of course why kikes promote it so heavily. Which is why it's so important to lash out at identity politics, even if you aren't especially concerned about it.

I find myself in the odd position of not really having much of anything against black people in principle (though I'm not going to pretend that racial divisions on crime, IQ, etc aren't real) but still being furious when I see the latest Netflix slop niggify a white character just as a demoralization tactic. The attempts at white erasure are obvious and transparent, the only thing that separates me from the white nationalists is I don't see socioeconomic control as a way to achieve white genocide, I see white genocide as a way to maintain socioeconomic control.

>>510438302
I like graber he is jewish but i thing goy side of his brain prevailed. Plus his mother was disowned by her parents for marrying a german.
I would recomend to anyone to read his articles regardles of political persuasion.
It explains a lot about how the world is fake and gay.
https://thebaffler.com/salvos/of-flying-cars-and-the-declining-rate-of-profit

The book debt is also good.
Graber championed direct democracy. I agree thats the best way to defeat glowies because they cant insert someone in bureaucracy and take controll.
I disagre with his views on nationalism and borders but belive it would naturaly happen with direct democracy.
Poeple can vote to keep their land pure. Voting and decentralization make no sense if ccp can send 1 milion glowies to subvert your state.

>>510427308 (OP)
Yes. I know a woman who was a far left extremist supporting the alphabeti spaghetti and blm. Then she got raped by a nigger

>>510427308 (OP)
yes I used to hang out at the fag club in college until the members started to turn on me and act like shit because I was straight and I refused to take part in militant activities or protest events. I look back and they're just a bunch of groomers trying to get young unsuspecting young people into their casue and then try to fuck them or manipulate them to transition when it's not needed

>>510427308 (OP)
Its definitely possible. I was basically a commie in 2021 until I realized how evil leftists were and then a bit later found out about the jews.

>>510427357
Everywhere i meet non-whites, no matter how friendly and conciliatory and cucked I try to be, non-whites just hate me for being white.

>>510442147
So you're still a midwit just like before.

>>510427308 (OP)
>Does this actually happen
no. it's like atheists who turn christians; it means a lot to christians, it doesn't happen though.

>>510440883
>I don't see socioeconomic control as a way to achieve white genocide, I see white genocide as a way to maintain socioeconomic control.
Right, its about keeping the money farms printing.
The reality is white genocide is impossible. They might be able to degrade nations but Europeans + the diaspora exceeds 800 million people worldwide, and that's not counting any of Central/South America because of mesoamerican mixture (and there are unmixed diaspora communities there which means the number is higher than 800k, a lot higher if minimally mixed people are reclaimed into the genepool).
The real issue is that we're being kept from having a nation and its a source of racial demoralization and humiliation and alarm because there are no defenders of whites in power, not even in their own nations.
Which is why the socioeconomic control is the real goal. If uncontrolled nations can stand, they will be expelled (and worse) and free nations will help and supports other nations in expulsion of these parasitic ownership/investor classes (which is overwhelmingly jewish or jew enabled/enabling/compromised). They're not difficult to identify at this stage of civilizational decay.

>>510427308 (OP)
Happened to me in 2020. All it took was being in Portland at the time.

>>510442181
Yea, and they wont stop till you have no home.

>>510442018
Thats a good story! I like that it had no moral correction or redemption arch, but that she was just raped violently, the end.

>>510442232
Are you a supporter of gay democracy or something then?

>neo-fascism
vs
>classical fascism

>>510441914
>I disagre with his views on nationalism and borders but belive it would naturaly happen with direct democracy.
I think there's truth to this. Jewish interests deliberately promote gorilla monkey nigger behavior via media control, but any time you find a group of black people who are (a) radicalized and (b) able to string together sentences with words longer than 8 letters, black nationalism/black exodus always seems to come up. They don't believe their own communities can be adequately represented by racial outsiders any more than we do, they want black cops on black streets promoting black values.

>>510427308 (OP)

Yeah, I became an anarquist who believe ms society is way better off under fascist rule.

>>510427357
Smart man. The next redpill is that both sides are run by the same people.

>>510427308 (OP)
I went from tankie to nationalist to egoist. As every ideology is just a tool to enforce its (or more like its leadership) will on others, masked as higher truth, its only rational that I take my own will as highest truth.

>>510442963
egoism is a spook. truth is a spook. rationality is a spook. max stirner is a spook.

>>510427308 (OP)
Never trust a traitor

>>510427357
God, leafs are so gay and impressionable.

>>510427308 (OP)
Yes, it happens a lot because autistic retards are very vulnerable to extremest propaganda. That's also why so many autistic incels become trannies.

>>510429210
Antifa:
http://archive.is/5cdGX
http://archive.is/F1z5R
https://pastebin.com/raw/hYrbGARz
https://archive.is/p63Kv

>>510442963
That's fair.
The only will you can ever truly have control over is your own.
If you don't have positive control of you someone else would be happy to add you to their roster.

>>510429504

>>510443194
Better to have spooks you created yourself, then spooks enforced from others.

>>510427308 (OP)
Im a former libertarian who still believes in libertarianism, but knows it requires a fascist exterior to protect and cultivate that libertarian utopia internally.

Essentially federal gov needs to be maximally fascist or strongly nationalistic with the sole purpose to cultivate a homogenous people within its states, while the states themselves should compete with each other to act as true libertarian utopias as possible. Also the fed should be protecting the interior from outsiders and subverters, which currently is their biggest failing, i.e. mexicans, indians, H1Bvisas, DEI, women in the work place, oligarchy, Israel/AIPAC, cartels, chinese infiltration... all massive irresponsible failures by the feds and often directly caused by them.

I think antifa/socialist/communists actually just want this style of fascist/libertarian society but dont know it.

>>510443298
>"anti-fascist"
>dressed like a tankie
>writings of fucking Mao Zedong
do they not even see the black flag there or what. In what sense is this "anti-fascist".

>>510439067
>Please read and enjoy my mentally ill cluster b histrionic fan fiction
You think this and you still won't do shit
The reason being is that you're a pathetic little PUSSY that will never do jack fucking SHIT
PUSSY

>>510443444
I would never describe myself as a fascist but I do think gatekeeping is important and all communities should be vigilant about ensuring everyone in the community shares their core values, and openly hostile to any element which even remotely appears not to. I don't think a large and organized military power structure is necessary to achieve it either, you get a lot more mileage out of all of your neighbors actively hating you. The real project of the modern immigration state is not the H1B visas its "multiculturalism" as a concept and the idea that people who come here don't have to adopt the customs, beliefs, and values of the place they wind up, especially when you mindfuck the natives into believing that this death of their own identity is some sort of virtue so that they actively encourage it.

>>510427308 (OP)
You read about what communist movements were once about, and then get hooked in by trotskists online, and it all sounds good and stuff. Then you go to a commie organized meeting and it's just a bunch of idiots yelling at each other to use their proper pronouns, and that white people suck and everyone is a nazi.

That's why people leave, because the far left was highjacked by trannys and racially motivated interest groups.

>>510443470
They were always pro-soviet since day one. They evolved out of the communist party of Germany before Hitler took over Germany.
The Berlin Wall was called the antifascist protection wall in the DDR.

>>510443765
There's a really interesting story (I think I read it in CrimethInc but I actually can't recall the source now) about an anarchist group that was trying to act in solidarity with a labor union about to undertake a major action. So they invite a representative from the union to come down to the meeting and speak about the issues and what their plan of action is, and how they could use help, and the author relates watching this guy's growing horror and disgust at exactly what you're talking about, the entire thing becoming a gigantic internal pissing contest about trivial bullshit, until he finally gets to speak and basically goes
>I have no idea what the FUCK I just watched but we're striking here at this time. Bye

>>510427955
Jews are based.
Protect Israel.

>>510427308 (OP)
You're welcome.

>>510443400
Basically this. You need fascism to create the libertarian utopia. You need an extreme authority to ref the states and people, to keep the libertarians NAP and people "playing" fairly. State level should be maximally libertarian, while federal level should be maximally fascist. The biggest failures was obama era, where the federal became the DEI, then later the feds welcomed illegals, H1Bs and generally the browning of america... all things that are the base of our issues right now and all due to corruption of the federal level by oligarchs whose only goal is bottom line money, no respect for the former national race or culture. Having the feds subverted and no longer protecting the states retarded decisions like replacing its own people, everywhere is failing, and the country will balkanize.

>>510443916
Disgusting. Get the fucking black flag off your logo.

>>510442272
>>510440883
Yeah you are both right and it is a good discussion. The painting underneath the Eifel heavily endorsed by Rothschild jews is called "endless sleep" for a reason. Whites are the only pattern recognising threat to jews, but we are too "nice", we're slow to racially other, but when it happens it's clear. In my opinion the true test of white people this century is will we manage to keep Jews in mind as the perpetrator, or will we fall for it fully and just fight Muslims for the jews for the thousandth time, this time in our home countries
Yeah I was a lefty for ages and remember identity politics coming in and there was no arguing with them because I'm white and he's white and they're a man and whatever, it really put a spanner in the works as it pertained to real action, 'cause the socialists with brains saw right through it, but it was at least 50% that was ideologically captured because they get the women with their emotional bullshit. I remember asking in a big meeting "So you want 50% of managers to be women and you're happy then?". "No, 50% of women managers and then we change stuff because we are women managers" BRAINDEAD. I notice it's black man + white woman, for it is the white man's brains they really fear. The race mixing is a smart angle though because blacks mature quicker so they do sort of win early puberty which is a crucial time.

>>510427308 (OP)
I actually was a commie when i was a teen, what changed completely my view is the JQ and the Holohoax.
Now I just think Hitler was right on everything but that he has been too soft on the jews.

>>510444260
>So you want 50% of managers to be women and you're happy then?
You ever observe how affirmative action, as a concept, is basically just a lie designed to perpetuate the idea of meritocracy? Capitalism works by insisting that if you work hardest for Mr. Shekelstein, you can work your way up and join the elite too. It's the fucking Hunger Games, you're playing to "win" in a way that doesn't threaten the power structure.

They have to put a bunch of token do-nothing "minorities" of various types in there because you can't perpetuate the lie that it's not a nepotistic circle-jerk that you will never get to be a part of unless it LOOKS like the most disenfranchised people can get ahead.

You can put a white guy in there and say "well he worked his way up, he USED to be poor like you, but he was a good goy and now look at him!" but they just sort of stopped believing that, so now they have to put Rasheequa Jazeequa in there to make the lie still seem believable.

But these people act like the tokenism is the point, like the win condition is "slightly more tokenism" rather than dismantling the fucking machine.

>>510436547
You are cattle if you had to first experience shitskins before you could comprehend why they are bad

>>510444079
>the country will balkanize.
It has to.
Creating a widespread state of disunity to the point its unmanageable. It has to balkanize to re-establish functional unifiable polities.
Their machine is running on inertia at this point, not any coherent design or vision. A default mode of 100 million jews and hungry dreamers singing "take everything you can, give nothing back!" is what we have.
Its just too dysfunctional. No one sane would want this to work.

>>510443765
>>510443945

That can be also said about nationalists and NSs or any other groups. Bunch of insuferable fagots infighting and being smartasses, wanting to tell others what to do. But thats because nobody have the power to establish hierarchy and command. If that happens, there is just one insufferable fag forcing his bullshit.

>>510443741
> migration state is not the H1B visas its "multiculturalism"
Agreed, but H1Bs is a tool they are using to import. They also use migrant workers and illegals, and other forms, but the most damning thing has been textbooks, the general subjects in federally controlled schools, for conditioning generations of Americans, that whites bad, that american bad, poor native americans, poor blacks, poor jews, its all white americans fault. Everything has been systematically made at the federal level to culturally and literally remove whites from their homelands and give to non-whites what we used to have. Fundementally it makes no sense why the feds would want that from a philosophical stand point, its self harm to want diversity and equity and women in the work place, etc. Only corruption and subversion at the federal level explains why this happened. Corruption and subversion by entities that benefit those pushes. The entities are corps and possibly indirectly through those corps by china and russia, but also direct corruption by israel through intel and other positions of power with mexicans trying to do both atm. The result has been causing the beacon on the hill to self immolate and gut itself. The pure libertarian will find himself standing alone, surrounded by muslims and cartels.

> not called fascist
Im not sure what system you would call it, its not libertarian either, but it is fascist exterior shell with fascist interior cultivation, with end goal to create a libertarian utopia not a totalitarian regime/dictatorship or fully central planning.

>>510443765
>Then you go to a commie organized meeting and it's just a bunch of idiots yelling at each other to use their proper pronouns, and that white people suck and everyone is a nazi.
honestly this. I'd rather join a side that doesn't hate me just because I'm white, even the nazis if necessary.

communism is actually better than capitalism, but not with forced diversity(no, i don't want to live next to someone that is genetically/noticeably more violent and dumb) and forced wokeism(no, i don't want to think about gender constantly like people started doing in the 2010's)

>>510427308 (OP)
>Does this actually happen?
Yes. The far left and the far right have almost everything in common. The only real difference is that the far left officially divides society in classes, while the far right divides it into races.

Wokeism and anti-zionism however have caused ghe far left to start thinking in terms of race: jews and whites. And when that began, the noticing also began.

>>510445024
> balkanize to re-establish functional unifiable polities.
I dont know about that, id assume it is more likely going the way of rome, and states shapes would shift, and become independant, with the USA never coming back again. Evidence being it would take literally 4 hitlers unopposed to undo the browning and loss of white homeland and culture in america right now. Trump is not 1 hitler by any rational person view. Next guy wont be trump, nor will they be 4xhitler, and its even starting to look like we may be going right back to accelerating the collapse in the next election. We'll see midterms.

>>510427308 (OP)
Still a disgusting statist. Nothing more than useful idiots.

>>510445587
>The only real difference is that the far left officially divides society in classes, while the far right divides it into races.
both sides use both race and class for division, just very very differently.

>>510427308 (OP)
>>510427357
>>510427368
Nazis rape kids.

>>510427430
>>510427507
>>510427522
Rightoids rape kids.

>>510445217
>Fundementally it makes no sense why the feds would want that from a philosophical stand point, its self harm to want diversity and equity and women in the work place, etc
It makes perfect sense why they want it
>disunity and mistrust among the working class keeps it from organizing against the ruling class as a bloc
>the ability to control who enters the workforce prevents the working class from having too much leverage as independent actors; you can always import foreigners, add women, etc., when your native workers have too much power, to reduce job security and promote obedience.

Replace "work" with "vote" to understand it at the government level but it ultimately comes down to the same thing. Diversity prevents the mass of the public from having enough in common to successfully band together against the elite without eating itself, and the constant expansion of that diversity with time allows the introduction of new elite-loyalists among the mass of the public whenever it starts to get too class-conscious.

For bonus points, you can tell the mass of the public "you're one of US, you're a part of the upper-crust group, it's those filthy outsiders who are your real enemy", which can then be used to make YOU identify with your captors while also allowing you to be used as a scapegoat/target if the imports ever develop a class consciousness of their own. Keep your nose clean and work hard, you could always be replaced with a jeet. But if the jeets ever decide THEY'RE tired of being exploited, we'll use you as a meat shield by claiming you're one of the exploiters, not the exploited.

It's a very rational and effective system.

>>510433847
Marx was a jew sweatie, try again.

>>510429602
Eliminates the white race which is the highest leftist ideal.

>>510445876
> It makes perfect sense why they want it
>disunity and mistrust among the working class keeps it from organizing against the ruling class as a bloc
>the ability to control who enters the workforce prevents the working class from having too much leverage as independent actors; you can always import foreigners, add women, etc., when your native workers have too much power, to reduce job security and promote obedience.
> Replace "work" with "vote" to understand it at the government level but it u....

Sorry but ive heard all this before. Im not buying "muh votes" anymore. Its been said for three elections now, that both sides want illegals here for "muh votes" yet despite all the other horrid fallout from them being here NO muh votes has changed any thing. Biden won 2020, then trump won 2024. The divide and conquer tactic is cartoonish and deviates too far from reality. CCP is one of the largest most unified monocultures in the world right now, and they absolutely have NO issues controlling their population, so any conscious goal of preventing unity for the objective of pop control is retarded. Division creates chaos, and failing. Its what you want of your enemy, government trying to divide its people, the ones that literally make it, is completely self inflicting wounds and not a credible or realistic strategy. Its only explanation is through external bodies exploiting our system with the intent of us destroying ourselves or a cancer fundemental to our system we need to cut out or fix or something.

>>510427308 (OP)
Yes it also happens the other way around. Extremist people are prone to go to the extreme and are more politics obsessed, so you get these meme horseshoe events rather often.
Its more likely that a Nazi becomes a Tankie than a Demoflat becoming a Rebooblican.

>>510445609
No reformation, different regional polities. States but not necessarily as we draw the borders today. The state governments are all officials that serve the uniparty theatric opposition system. They serve a political party, not a people. It all needs to dissolve and everyone needs to become some new thing on their own with whatever people are unifiable in their own regions, new regional polities.

>>510427579
that was like patient zero for SJW-ism

>>510445840
You dont get it do you retard? If Biden could have killed Trumps chances by proving he's a pedophile he would have, but he can't because he would have outed himself too. They are all pedophiles, every side.

>>510427308 (OP)
I speedran that in 2 months back during the nigger riots. Most true believer leftists are just sheltered, ignorant national socialists that are a few hard truths away from being awakened.
The ones that are hard to flip are the people who are driven more by perceived social consensus than any sort of personal principles. The only way to convince them is to look like you're winning.

>>510446789
It's not literally about votes, just about loyalties. The numbers don't actually matter all that much, what matters is if the existing mass of the public turns on you, you can import a new mass of the public to shore up your own interior support.

>CCP is one of the largest most unified monocultures in the world right now, and they absolutely have NO issues controlling their population
They're a massive totalitarian state that controls all of the media and all of the economy and works daily to vomit perpetual propaganda, but their existence still relies entirely on the west. China would collapse in 6 months without the export economy and they know it.

The west must cultivate individualism to at least some extent in order to function, totalitarian states that destroy individualism as an ideal/concept collapse under their own weight. So the question becomes how to you wrangle individualism without stamping it out entirely. How do you let people believe they are the master of their own destiny, such that you can capture their intellect, work ethic, creativity, etc., and harness it, while simultaneously keeping them subjugated? How do you control them while maintaining the illusion that you are not in control?

China doesn't do this. CCCP doesn't pretend it isn't in control. And it's why all they can do is be the west's giant factory and produce derivative bullshit that they steal FROM the west. Because all of their creativity was murdered or exiled as a threat to the hegemony. The west can't do that.

>>510443728
http://reichandlowentherapy.org/Content/Character/Oral/oral_communicator.html

Large abstract global causes may be championed, with no real demands on the ego, but smaller specific injustices to specific known people closer to home may be unopposed because the ego strength is not present for an actual fight. They often champion the cause of under-dogs and minorities, idealizing those with little power. This comes from the feeling of having been deprived and cheated, which is repressed and projected onto others. It is sometimes said that orals dislike the people they know, and like the people they don't know

>>510447097
I dont agree with it being good, needed or desired, but I do agree it is what is happening, that complete balkanization is inevitable at this point, everything else is theatrics and estimating the delay/duration. The cultural and genetic browning of America is far too great to over come at this point. It is past the tipping point, we are watching the runaway train now, maybe see some jeets try to stop it, which will be entertaining, but theres over 20million illegal browns here with zero interest in America or wanting to naturalize, with their only interest is exploiting the system for financial gain, that is 20mill on top of the other 150million "naturalized" browns who in majority, hate whites and american ideals, and on top of all that we have entire failed generations of millenials and zoomers due to economic and pandemics.

>>510427546
>Then you noticing things more and more and it all starts unraveling.
Doesn't always unravel, a lot of the time the person descends into cognitive dissonance.

>>510447701
> It's not literally about votes, just about loyalties. The numbers don't actually matter all that much, what matters is if the existing mass of the public turns on you, you can import a new mass of the public to shore up your own interior support
That is what Im calling retarded. You think in one generation radical fundemental muslims are going to stay leftwing support of faggots and women runing around nude??? Theyre already breaking ranks on the left, and in many parts of the country the ONLY opposition to total debauchery and culture rot.

> China would collapse in 6 months without the export economy and they know it.
Buddy... WE would collapse in 6 months without china. They make EVERYTHING! we are on a razors edge of hyperinflation. Boomers sold out our country for that cheap chinese crap! If they cut us off we would be fucked. Why do you think we are at war with russia and iran, but china literally released a bioweapon attack on us and nothing has been done? The biggest cybersecurity attacks and most consitent? China. Infrastructure and foreign psyops attacks?? China. But no, russia Russia russia and israel israel.

>>510427308 (OP)
>One Fed Pscop vs another Fed Psyop

kek

>>510427308 (OP)
Yes and it happened in real Nazi Germany. In fact that's why they renamed themselves from DAP to NSDAP, they wanted to emphasize "socialist" and "workers" to be more appealing to those on the left. Talk to any Bernie supporting socialist why nationalism is necessary for socialism to work and they begin to get uncomfortable and realize national socialism has something to it.
The jews aren't doing themselves any favors right now and are red pilling everyone that the US is a Zionist captured state. Gaza is indeed a genocide.

>>510447701
>>510446789
And I should add as an addendum to this, it's also important to remember that bureaucracy is extraordinarily fucking stupid. Stupider than you can possibly imagine. So stupid it almost defies explanation.

You can ask "why, when it's so patently obvious that this plan of theirs is causing the entire machine to grind to a fucking halt, when it's so transparently clear that it isn't working the way their plan says it's supposed to work; why do they keep doing it?" And the answer is
>never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity
They are fucking stupid. They are bureaucrats. They cannot conceptualize the plan not working, so the plan is working. The numbers will be fudged to ensure that the plan is working, because their job is to make sure the plan is working and they all do their job. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on. How many times have you watched a company lose billions by refusing to back down on a plan that was obviously doomed to failure? Do you assume "a rival company must have put a plant in their C-suite to destroy them"? No, they're just retarded. They're retarded when the plane starts falling and they stay retarded all the way to the ground. That's all the explanation that's really needed. Suicide by obstinance.

I think the idea that a shadowy highly-organized foreign cabal is destroying our righteous nation from without has appeal because it's easier than facing the reality that our leaders are all transparently nepotistic kikes and glad-handers looking out for their own futures, supporting each other the same way any other community would do. Because they are a community. A community of elite parasites who are sometimes at odds and sometimes compete but are always going to help each other and never help you. They attended the same schools, eat at the same restaurants, meet at the same parties. They are a clique, not a cult.

>>510427308 (OP)
The Reveal!
>>510445840
Yes.. jews on the right rape kids & jews on the left rape kids & jews in Israel rape kids, jews in Russia rape kids.

Where ever there are jews kids are being raped in jew basements.

>>510427308 (OP)
Not 100% the same but Mussolini was a socialist before inventing facism

>>510427308 (OP)
yea, antifa spends time with niggers then ends up hating them

>>510427308 (OP)
I'm sure it does, however it worries me. ANTIFA kids are just angry youth in need of an excuse for violence. Right wing extremism, left wing extremism - it doesn't matter to them as long as they can set a car on fire.

>>510435997
the one time i voted it was for the socialist party, i was 19
I was against voting 6 months before that, and resumed being against voting right after i voted
i was and still am convinced it's all a scam
but for 6 months i let the campaign brainwash me, a bit like starting up a smoking habit
same phenomenon: you hear about it, you develop a desire for it
thankfully, actually voting once reminded me all i used to think about voting
it's a scam
not even sure voting in 2005 would have meant anything, although for once they had a vote about a real choice: in or out of the EU
but of course they overturned that vote entually, proving my view right in the end

i see voting as the insurance industry:
>give us your resources and consent to protect you from the future; trust us good goy we'll take care of you
it is a pact with the devil: if you want power, you take power
if you want change, you make change
you dont delegate to jerkoffs

>>510427357
Were you an anarchist hacker?

>>510442765
This. They're brainwashed to hate you. Even the most reasonable one might not be able to hold back.

>>510448422
China is our factory. Of course we need them. But they also need us. The west can't operate like the CCCP does, because the intellectual labor has to be sourced from somewhere. We can't all be the CCCP. China isn't trying to destroy the US, it's trying to get rich off of the US. China was a barely functional hellscape until it became the factory of the west. Do you think state-colluding agencies like Tencent are taking minority shares in a huge swath of western companies because they want to destroy those companies with CCCP propaganda? I think they're doing it to get rich. They want money and power and they can't get those things in the CCCP because their entire country operates by destroying itself to shit out whatever the west is prepared to gobble up.

Your analysis is a bit like saying "if the jews are exploiting the workers, why do companies offer paid time off and flexible holidays and quarterly bonuses instead of just being a sweatshop?" And the answer is, sweatshops only produce sweatshop labor. Capturing valuable intellectual labor requires ideological alignment. Work camps can produce license plates, but not slogans. They can produce 2x4s but not architecture. The intellectual work has to be done somewhere. And controlling that workforce requires a different approach; one based on psychological manipulation rather than mere coercion.

>>510448547
> Do you assume "a rival company must have put a plant in their C-suite to destroy them"? No, they're just retarded.
But this literally happens all the time, its called a corporate hostile takeover, often goes hand in hand with corporate espionage. You plant insiders for dirt or assessments, and even attempt to derail the company, so you can buy it on the cheap.

>>510427308 (OP)
If you think of politics as a circle, you can go so far in the wrong direction that you end up in the right one.

>>510427308 (OP)
Opposite for me. The right side is just a phase for awhile before you open up and gain empathy

>>510449379
Sure it happens all the time, but do you think it's the leading cause of "business makes catastrophically bad decision"? When Bud Light set itself on fire by making a tranny its spokesmodel, do you think that was a secret plot by a Heineken NV plant designed to destroy them? Or just sheer fucking retarded stupidity billowing out from an echo chamber too tone deaf to realize how badly that stunt would go over with the consumer base?

>>510449492
>empathy is screaming to put people in camps for not taking gene therapy over a bad cold

>>510427368
I don't get it but I guess it make sens for boomers

>>510427308 (OP)
Yes if youre 14 years old or retarded.

>>510448547
> I think the idea that a shadowy highly-organized foreign cabal is destroying our righteous nation from without has appeal because it's easier than facing the reality that our leaders are all transparently nepotistic kikes and glad-handers looking out for their own futures, supporting each other the same way any other community would do. Because they are a community. A community of elite parasites who are sometimes at odds and sometimes compete but are always going to help each other and never help you. They attended the same schools, eat at the same restaurants, meet at the same parties. They are a clique, not a cult.
Yes but whyyyyyyyy???? CCP doesnt have the same end result despite stupid chinks in charge....Also are you INSANE? Its NOT a conspiracy theory foriegn governments are actively trying to harm our governent by any means necessary. Its also NOT some fantazy regardless of how it easy/hard it fits into your mind, that LITERALLY shadowy highly-organized foreign cabals are trying to destroy US! Its not some propaganda to obscure reality, theres active chinese gangs buying up homes and land in Maine right now paying off officals and putting their own politicans in charge to pass laws in their favor. This same thing has been going on in the southwest with cartels in calironia, new mexico, arizona. This is real dumbass!

>>510427308 (OP)
...anons...you...

>>510427308 (OP)
Zoomers live theoretical lives on a theoretical web

They lack a sense of community and structure typical pre-postmodernist societies possesed

They are ergo, groundless, and have nothing to anchor them into reality, floating around in the cosmos of "potential" to be anything, that hard reality provides

>>510447664
>sheltered, ignorant national socialists that are a few hard truths away from being awakened.
Most of them hate white people. You also can't really convert a feminist. They are female supremacist. If you try to do it you only poison your own ideology.

>>510427308 (OP)
Yes, but I would be extremly suspicious of people who made this shift.
They are either
A: people who realized fascism is far more honest honest as opposed to far left double speak bullshit
B: it’s purely them realizing what the winning side is or they just want to try extremism in a different flavor. They will have zero real commitment to the ideology

Group A happened to a lot of 2016 Bernie bros who realized it was all bullshit including Bernie himself.
Group B are entirely just self interested.

>>510449963
>CCP doesnt have the same end result despite stupid chinks in charge
Sure it does. You think the people in charge over there aren't all a cadre of friends-of-friends and mutual acquaintances who get together at the same fucking cocktail parties?
>paying off officals and putting their own politicans in charge
You have been deluded into thinking that there is such a thing as "our politicians". The Chinese are playing the game now, they've become a part of the global elite, they're in the clique. They're way behind the jews in that regard but it all comes down to the same thing, you learn to succeed within the social structure of the elite and that gives you control.

Pause to consider: if the point of immigration was for a foreign power to destroy the target nation with chaos and unrest, why are the CHINESE immigrants to the US broadly successful and respected? Why is it that east asian immigrants become doctors and shop-keepers and attend prestigious schools and do well without causing a lot of crime and unrest? Wouldn't China's easiest play be to send us all of their human detritus, their criminal underclass, while keeping the experts for themselves? Why do they export the geniuses and keep the retards as slave labor garlic peelers and living organ banks for the Party elite?

>>510449256
This type of over importance on "intellectual labor" and "psychological manipulation" is indicative of the type of arrogance that fails in real world. Your living a detached fantazy view of reality if you believe what you wrote past a thought exercise. AI is going to replace all "intellectual labor" and propaganda/psych manipulation are 1 tool to control a pop, not the only or even the backbone/bedrock of controlling anyone. Its useful, its why they do it, but it creates a feedback loop that can self posion, it can cloak reality of even those in charge, causing the metaphorical boat, to steer into a cliff. Thats the, is it external causing that or internal base flaw of or system? One is the answer and either way it needs to be fixed.

>>510427955
>>510443951
>Jews are based.
lol what a kike

Come on....

In you go>>>

>>510450868
It really only takes a cursory glance at Mao era china to verify your points.
It was pretty much all inner circle bullshit and cocktail parties while having the peasants chant slogans and kill each other.

>>510451033
>AI is going to replace all "intellectual labor"
I don't think this is actually true, but surely if you do believe it, you can see how what I wrote would explain why the elite are pushing AI's validity so goddamn hard even though nobody fucking wants it. Zero percent of people want their first Google result to be an AI summary, but Google devotes the enormous fucking computing power to making it mandatory anyway for billions of daily searches. Why? Because they WANT AI to be able to do what you're describing. If they can actually eliminate the dependence on intellectual labor, then they CAN pivot to sweatshop tactics. It's very important to them that you feed the AI machine so that they can make you into a disposable meat robot and they no longer have to waste money, effort and time trying to manipulate you into siding with them and their beliefs.

The "mask slips" as they start to envision a future where your compliance is no longer really important, because your terrified obedience is sufficient. As it stands, the west can't do that.

>>510449619
Both.

The stupid part:
Corps are retarded to culture and politics. Thats by design. They are systems to make bottom lines- profit, money, wealth.

The intentional:
Angel investors, investment firms, single wealthy investors part of organizations with agendas, have been seized by competing government bodies, using shell companies to hide sources, all in the name of "free market". Ones like the CCP, have been using their govs profits from USA buying all their shit, to pump into companies that promote their agenda in the free market. That funds these investors who push DEI in budlight, in target, in google, in microsoft, etc. the CCP directly owns several large corpsin Canada for example, which they use to promote policies that harm canadians, maximize their exploitation and why canada is all chinese and indian now. Other countries do this too and some try more direct approaches (mexico/cartels, israel, etc) but im just using CCP as the easiest example

Commie vermin can never become National Socialists. It's not in their nature. You can transition from a stupid lolbert or a conservative into Fascism, but not from communism.

>>510450868
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Pause to consider: if the point of immigration was for a foreign power to destroy the target nation with chaos and unrest, why are the CHINESE immigrants to the US broadly successful and respected?
Idk retard... maybe to place loyalist in ley powerful or control positions in our system!

>>510451484
> Zero percent of people want their first Google result to be an AI summary, but Google devotes the enormous fucking computing power to making it mandatory anyway for billions of daily searches. Why? Because they WANT AI to be able to do what you're describing.
You are absolutely incorrect about this. Im telling you anti-AI people whose belief is AI is fake and unrealized are going to have a hard reality smack very soon.

>>510452021
Why would they want people in control positions of a system they're trying to destroy? Why seek control of something you intend to break? It only makes sense to seek control of something if it's going to be useful to you. It's why occupying militaries don't start by carpet bombing the entire target nation into a crater and then walking in to lay claim to the rubble.

Are they trying to destroy us or take control of us? Because your argument rests on the idea that immigration is designed specifically to cause a nation to crumble, not on ideological grounds but by literally undermining the entire thing so it can't work or function correctly. What are they doing trying to covertly take over a target they're ostensibly setting fire to?

>>510445126
Yes, but those niche fringe groups have always had the same goals, the communists movements in the 1800 - early 1900s were about breaking down class structure to be more transparent with each other, workers rights, upward economic mobility for the working class, and making sure that the modes of production weren't highjacked by capitalists. Essentially, putting workers first. And it was usually a mix of nationalist mentality and communist class solidarity that got people on board.
That a worker in one nation could fight to have labor unions, public housing projects, and progressive taxing, and a government that would protect them, but also having strong opinion and empathy for other workers in another nation.

I used to be a union steward and got involved in actual socialist meetings that were strictly about workers rights. And I saw the tranny invasion happen, it was ridiculous.

>>510452362
> Why would they want people in control positions of a system they're trying to destroy? Why seek control of something you intend to break?
To steer it into the metaphorical cliff! What do you mean? This isnt some cool story bro, this is viewable in real life, there corporate examples of this where hostile companies get their guys in another companies key positions to sabotage the company, then either buy them up on the cheap or run them out of business entirely. Its the same thing.

>>510427308 (OP)
communists are anarchists are easier to convert than liberals or conservatives because they are already radicalized. you just have to peel back the layers of propaganda (which is usually traumatic to the indiviidual; the level of which depends on how weak the will is and how bad the brinwashing)

>>510452599
>To steer it into the metaphorical cliff!
But none of them are actually taking positions of relevant power. You're talking about, at best, a subtle sociocultural shift toward their values. As I said, their immigrants come over here and open corner stores without committing crimes, they don't come over here and take congressional seats. That would be the Israelis.

>>510452721
Firstly your creating a fallacy by micro focusing on one group (CCP) to minimize the extend of all the nations doing the same thing. Second your suggesting specifically Chinese have only done subtle takeovers, when they have taken over atleast one or two cities in America, if not gained the upperhand of the northwest states and extreme northeast like maine and mass. Maine is being taken over by literal chinese gangs, weed growers NOT doctors and surgeons.

>>510430082
Felleing countries their geneetics made into failures is a cause, not an effect.

>>510428747
Glownigger LARPers.
Why the fuck would they call themselves "Nazis", playing into Allied propaganda, when the actual term is National Socialists.
They existed to make actual National Socialists look bad to dissuade people from looking into it.

>>510427308 (OP)
>easily manipulable anime pfp has once again been easily manipulated
shocking

>>510430082
This is well put and gets to the heart of the matter. I remember Maddox saying something similar years ago.
If you just legalized the people and their labor, they would no longer be desirable to hire and would have no incentive to come. The only reason they come in the first place is for the work, which is readily available because employers can get away with paying them less than regular workers.
The more illegal you make their labor, the less employers can get away with paying them (and it's still more than they could get back home). It works to depress the wages for the rest of us because we don't get access to those jobs and therefore have to compete for a smaller pool of jobs than would otherwise be the case.
But people don't like that. They want logic that fits on a bumper sticker instead of actually thinking out the ramifications of the policies they support and why they are sold those policies in the first place.

>>510453904
Because they were self aware and knew they were edgelords.

>>510427368
This. America's problem is that there's not enough niggers.