Thread 510432556

European Christians are the original self-hating White liberals. They destroyed their own cultures and religions to replace them with the Jewish invention Christianity.

>>510432556 (OP)
>European Christians are the original self-hating White liberals.
We do not hate white Europeans, why would we? They were the first peoples to convert ot Christianity, Europe is the continent that has been Christian for the longest time, all of our history is in Europe, all of our greatest churches and cathedrals are there, all of our greatest theologians, thinkers, writers, preachers, missionaries and priests have come from Europe.

Our problem with white Europeans today is that so many of them have turned away from Christ.

>>510432849
>They were the first peoples to convert ot Christianity
It seems many were forced to. Meanwhile Mark 6:11:
>And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, leave that place and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them

>>510432849
>They were the first peoples to convert to Christianity
Those were clearly the local judeans.

Xianity is incompatible with Civilization. Christian values contradict European/Roman/Hellenic virtues, and Europe only remained civilized by over-ruling and ignoring Abrahamic doctrine when there was a rational conflict between these two worldviews.

>the pope asked that God "open borders, break down walls [and] dispel hatred"
>“There is no room for prejudice, for ‘security’ zones separating us from our neighbours, for the exclusionary mindset that, unfortunately, we now see emerging also in political nationalisms,” he said.
>“People must move “beyond our fear of those who are different,” he said, saying the Holy Spirit “breaks down barriers and tears down the walls of indifference and hatred”.
A Roman would say:
>Kill barbarians. Behead barbarians. Roundhouse kick a barbarian into the Roman cement. Slam dunk a barbarian baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy jews.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/08/pope-leo-criticises-exclusionary-mindset-of-nationalist-political-movements

get a load of this>>510432849 nigger
the messianic synnagagues known as "churches" will happily let White people be exterminated so long as:
1) the Whites in question were in one way or another disobedient
2) the shitskins that replace them are more obedient slaves

>>510432849
>They were the first peoples to convert ot Christianity
Lol
No jesus' fellow jews where

>>510432556 (OP)

true. and of course basically what the Führer said

>>510432849
Aren't you some kind of chinkoid mutant that thinks chess prowess proves the jewish god?

>>510433176
>the messianic synnagagues known as "churches" will happily let White people be exterminated so long as:
>1) the Whites in question were in one way or another disobedient
>2) the shitskins that replace them are more obedient slaves
according to the Vatican, plundering Whites is more important than worshipping God
LMAO

>>510433054
Mark 6:11 is not an instruction for all Christians about how to carry out proselityzing:
>And He called the twelve and began to send them out two by two, and gave them authority over the unclean spirits.
>He charged them to take nothing for their journey except a staff—no bread, no bag, no money in their belts— but to wear sandals and not put on two tunics.
>And he said to them, “Whenever you enter a house, stay there until you depart from there. And if any place will not receive you and they will not listen to you, when you leave, shake off the dust that is on your feet as a testimony against them.”
>So they went out and proclaimed that people should repent. And they cast out many demons and anointed with oil many who were sick and healed them.
Mark 6:7-13
https://www.esv.org/Mark+6/

This is Jesus specifically gathering and giving instructions to His apostles about preaching to Jews in Judea, not about how Christians should preach at all times.

Agreed. They're a force of evil sugarcoated with some good principles to be easier to swallow.
All semitic religions are evil and destructive to the planet and psyche of whites.

Religions are colonialism

>>510433188
I meant to say that white Europeans were the first gentiles to convert to Christianity. Of course the first people of all to convert were Jews.

>They destroyed their own cultures and religions to replace them
Arabs did this too by the way. Jerusalem is the epicenter of evil energy

>>510433176
>1) the Whites in question were in one way or another disobedient
>2) the shitskins that replace them are more obedient slaves
Could you please point me to any church that has this as explicit policy?

>>510433238
So forced conversion is completely okay? How is that any different from the Muslims? Where's the love? Do you think that this is normal?
>Conversion to Christianity met great opposition among the Bulgarian elite. Some refused to become Christians while others apostatized after baptism and started a rebellion against Boris for forcing them to be baptized. Some people did not object necessarily to the Christian religion but to the fact that it was brought by foreign priests, which, as a result, established external foreign policy. By breaking the power of the old cults, Boris reduced the influence of the boyars, who resisted the khan's authority. In the summer of 865 a group of Bulgar aristocrats (boyars) started an open revolt. Boris ruthlessly suppressed it and executed 52 boyars together with their entire families. Thus the Christianization continued. In 889 Boris abdicated the throne and became a monk. His son and successor Vladimir attempted a pagan reaction, which brought Boris out of retirement in 893. Vladimir was defeated and Boris had him blinded, his wife shaved and sent to a monastery. Boris gathered the Council of Preslav placing his third son, Tsar Simeon I of Bulgaria, on the throne, threatening him with the same fate if he too apostatized.

>>510433342
>So forced conversion is completely okay?
That is up to God to decide one both the converted and the preacher die. Only He will decide if He accepts it.
> How is that any different from the Muslims?
Well for once according to the Quran Muslims are actively in a state of conflict with nonbelievers, they're explicitly commanded to turn to violence if they encounter people that refuse to convert.

There is no such compulsion in Christianity, while some Christians MIGHT of their own accord and based on their circumstances choose to resort to violence in the face of disbelief, this is not a mandatory reaction, a Christian can also simply choose to move on in peace.

>>510433469
>That is up to God to decide one both the converted and the preacher die.
So you have no thoughts on your own when asked actual questions? Why are you so subversive?
>if they encounter people that refuse to convert
I provided an example with the exact same thing, did you even bother reading it?
>this is not a mandatory reaction, a Christian can also simply choose to move on in peace.
Yet for some reason they chose the former. I'm still waiting for answers.

>>510433553
>So you have no thoughts on your own when asked actual questions?
I do, but I refuse to judge my fellow Christians, especially those who are long dead and have already faced the judgement of God, the only judgement that actually matters. They don't need me to judge them.
>Why are you so subversive?
What part of my thinking is "subversive"? I'm being completely honest with you.
>I provided an example with the exact same thing
Again, Boris chose of his own accord to react in such a way, the Bible did not compel him to do so.
>Yet for some reason they chose the former.
Some do, some don't. Let God decide with whom He is pleased.

>>510433700
>I do, but I refuse
So you literally don't. I asked you a very simple question which you refuse to answer.
>my fellow
But it's okay to judge other people?
>Boris chose of his own accord
So is it a good or a bad thing?
>Some do, some don't.
Would Europe be Christian if they didn't force convert a significant part of it? Please do answer!

>>510433867
>So you literally don't.
I do have my own opinions, just because I refuse to share them doesn't mean that I don't have them.
>I asked you a very simple question which you refuse to answer.
And I already explained why. I do not think it is appropriate for me to judge the actions of a dead Christian, they have already faced the judgement of God.
>But it's okay to judge other people?
If they're doing something clearly against our religion, and we're not committing it ourselves, I say yes.
>So is it a good or a bad thing?
That is up to God to decide.
>Would Europe be Christian if they didn't force convert a significant part of it?
I believe so, I believe that God is in charge of history and that the Holy Spirit empowers Christians to spread the religion, Christianity would've spread regardless of the methods that Christians have chosen to use.

>>510432556 (OP)
>They destroyed their own cultures
OK brown tranny immigrant and fake refugee, literally, tell me what culture was "destroyed" when we converted to Christianity in Norway. Your beloved human sacrifice? Homosexuality? Drugs? What exactly? Pathetic that you had to run away from this thread:
>>510395814

We Scandinavians ditched illogical, dysfunctional, hyper-violent and batshit crazy paganism and embraced Christianity, over one thousand years ago, creating arguably some of the most peaceful and well-functioning societies the world has ever seen. Pic related.

>>510434078
Tell me, brother, why have your people largely chosen to abandon the Christian faith?

>>510432556 (OP)
>the strong resist
>the weak convert

>>510434027
>just because I refuse to share them doesn't mean that I don't have them.
Then it's only logical to ask why do you even have these opinions in the first place? Aren't you sinning by having them?
>I do not think it is appropriate for me to judge the actions
So you don't know what's good and evil?
>If they're doing something clearly against our religion, and we're not committing it ourselves
And how is that not pure hypocrisy? It seems like you're immune against anything but the non-believers are not.
>That is up
Then why do you have a problem?
>would've spread regardless of the methods
Then why do them?

>>510434123
Same reason everyone else does it. God is dead. We killed him.

>>510434123
We have had insane brainwashing from birth into atheism and secularism. It started in the 1930s when our rabidly atheistic labor party got a full democratic majority. Worse, our state church is run by politicians, meaning godless and godhating politicians are picking Bishops and professors in theology, resulting in a bastard church far away from genuine Christian teaching, even though you have some good priests trying to fight back against the system, but overall, we have in Norway now the apostate church mentioned in Revelation. Traditionally, Norway was a very devout Christian nation.

>>510434219
>Then it's only logical to ask why do you even have these opinions in the first place?
You think the only reason people have opinions is to tell them to others at all times? Haven't you heard of the concept of keeping something to yourself?
>Aren't you sinning by having them?
Why would it be sinful to keep an opinion to yourself?
>So you don't know what's good and evil?
I do, the Bible informs me of it. But the final judgement is God's and His alone.
>And how is that not pure hypocrisy?
Judging someone for something that you yourself are not doing is the exact opposite of hypocrisy.
>It seems like you're immune against anything but the non-believers are not.
I'm not? Christians are as much sinners as everyone else.
>Then why do you have a problem?
I.......don't? Are you having a stroke?
>Then why do them?
Each Christian had his/her reasons......it's up to God to decide if He finds them acceptable.

>>510432556 (OP)
>>510432849
Jews were white in medieval Europe. They made the red heads wear yellow hats so they could be recognized since otherwise they couldn’t.

>>510434373
>God is dead. We killed him.
Why do always deranged and ignorant midwits quote Nietzsche? I guess you are a raging pagancuck as well?

>>510432556 (OP)
>European Christians are the original self-hating White liberals. They destroyed their own cultures and religions to replace them with the Jewish invention Christianity.
hence the term EUROKEKS

>>510434495
>You think the only reason people have opinions is to tell them to others at all times?
So you claim to have opinions but would never share them, then what's the point, really?
>Why would it be sinful to keep an opinion to yourself?
Because you're still judging other people.
>I do
>But the final judgement
So how do you know what to do?
>that you yourself are not doing is the exact opposite of hypocrisy
So it's not that you're refusing to do it but can't?
>I'm not?
>against our religion, and we're not committing it ourselves
You're.
>I.......don't?
You literally complain about Christianity losing it's relevance.
>Each Christian had his/her reasons
So they are not supposed to follow the teachings?

Atheists got ridiculed off the face of the internet with fedora memes and now they came back as 'based pagans' making the same nonarguments.

You want people to give up on Christianity? Offer better and more logically consistent metaphysical framework.

>>510434797
>people to give up on Christianity
People have gave up on it long ago when they normalized fornication. And we are not even talking about the many other things that they are doing.

>>510434450
>Traditionally, Norway was a very devout Christian nation.
on pain of death, ostracism, kidnapping

>>510434695
>So you claim to have opinions but would never share them?
No? Some I do share, some I don't. This entire thread is me giving you some of my opinions.
>Because you're still judging other people.
Judging is an outward action, not just having a thought in your head.
>So how do you know what to do?
By studying the Bible, but God can choose to have mercy or not at the end. We can only do the best that we can and hope to find grace in His eyes.
>So it's not that you're refusing to do it but can't?
I am conciously refusing to judge Boris.
>>I'm not?
>You're.
What sin am I committing that I'm judging someone else for?
>>I.......don't?
>You literally complain about Christianity losing it's relevance.
I didn't know what problem you were referring to. You simply asked "Then why do you have a problem?" without specifying.
>So they are not supposed to follow the teachings?
They are, but Medieval Christians followed the Gospel to the best of their ability and understanding, now it's only up to God to decide what to do with them.

>>510433335
>Could you please point me to any church that has this as explicit policy?
see>>510433227
>but muh catholics aren't REEL Christians!
all sects have their hands on the shitskin welfare pie

>NOOOO STOP DISBELIEVING IN SOME BULLSHIT WE MADE UP!!!!
>NOOOOO BUT WE CAME UP WITH THIS, THEREFORE ITS TRUEEEEE!!!!!
sorry bud, Truth is objective and Christ is Truth.
relativists are retarded

>>510434900
That doesn't matter. The world is a cesspit, yes, but that doesn't mean atheism is any less of a nihilistic paradox and it doesn't mean Christianity now magically has any alternatives.

>>510433176
>Christian values contradict European/Roman/Hellenic virtues
literally every Theologian disagrees with you. Christian Morality is Virtue Ethics. The Hellenic Logos is identified with the Christian God for a reason.

>>510434968
>Some I do share, some I don't.
No, you're just being subversive and intentionally talking only about things you like.
>Judging is an outward action
I don't know man, do I really have to bother proving that even your thoughts can be sinful?
>By studying the Bible
But at the same time it's okay to do things that are the opposite of what's taught in it?
>I am conciously refusing to judge
But you already did in your mind...
>What sin am I committing
You think that you're superior.
>without specifying
Because this is what you're complaining about.
>They are
But they didn't? Why do I have to always ask you questions instead of you just making a normal reply?
>>510435130
>That doesn't matter
Yes, obviously nothing matter when given actual proof for his delusions. No idea why people like you can't ever be sincere.

>>510432556 (OP)
Yes. But spics crusader-larping will now cite the jewish book of desert adventures, and call you a schizo if you quote from the same book any passage they don't like.

>>510435138
>theologian
woah no way, christian philosophers say they're right? I didn't know that.
>Hellenic Logos is identified with the Christian God for a reason.
I guarantee you dont even know what youre saying.
Abrahamic doctrine is comically in opposition to Hellenic wisdom. "original sin" by itself contradicts all Platonic and Aristotelian metaphysics. are you saying youre a Christian who rejects "original sin"?

take your nafri paws away from my board you fucking shitskin

>>510435088
That decree is about not forcing illegal immigrants in the US to attend mass in fear of being caught and deported. Nothing about "plundering whites".

>>510432556 (OP)
>>510432849

>>510435419
>No, you're just being subversive and intentionally talking only about things you like.
I've engaged with every point you've given me so far.
>I don't know man, do I really have to bother proving that even your thoughts can be sinful?
Thoughts can be sinful, unshared opinions not necessarily.
>But at the same time it's okay to do things that are the opposite of what's taught in it?
No. And let me point out that you've yet to show exactly what is it that Boris did that was according to the Gospel. I've already addressed Mark 6:11
>>510433238
>But you already did in your mind...
No I haven't. I do not hold any judgement on Boris or his actions.
>You think that you're superior.
I am not superior to anybody.
>Because this is what you're complaining about.
You could've just been a bit more specific, you know?
>>They are
>But they didn't?
The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. We've all fallen short of the glory of God.
>Why do I have to always ask you questions instead of you just making a normal reply?
You're the one choosing of your own acccord to thow all these questions at me.

>>510434937
>on pain of death, ostracism, kidnapping
Really? Give me ONE Norwegian primary source backing up your brown and fake claim. You can even provide Norwegian secular academic sources if you want, always Masonic and highly antagonistic towards Christianity. As always with you raging pagancucks, all you have is rabid and vile Jewish lies.

>>510435790
He looks happy.

God bless him.

>>510435419
>>Yes, obviously nothing matter when given actual proof for his delusions. No idea why people like you can't ever be sincere.
I made 2 posts and in both of them I told you what matters. Metaphysical framework matters. Atheists have none. Pagans have none. You have to offer one to progress this argument. Muh jews muh ancestors isn't an argument.

>>510435579
>they didn't literally say it
getting desperate my little irrational Xcuck?
your synnagagues say it's ok to skip mass (not worship God) if you are a wanted criminal (illegal alien, plundering American jobs, smuggling drugs, both, etc)

>>510432556 (OP)
Yes, christ cucks serve satan just like muslims and Jews all branches of Abraham are evil.

>>510432556 (OP)
based thread

>>510432556 (OP)
>are the original self-hating White liberals.
Wait until you learn that leftism literally grew out of Christianity and leftists are literally secular Christians who follow closer what jesus ordered his followers to do.

>>510435882
>>they didn't literally say it
They didn't say it at all.
>your synnagagues say it's ok to skip mass (not worship God)
If those illegal immigrants were going to attend Mass, I'm pretty sure that they were worshipping God on their own.
>if you are a wanted criminal (illegal alien, plundering American jobs, smuggling drugs, both, etc)
Being an illegal immigrant, although a crime, does not necessarily mean that you're stealing jobs or smuggling drugs.

>>510435799
>I've engaged with every point you've given me so far.
No, you just reply with one liners.
>unshared opinions not necessarily.
You already judged him in your mind.
>what is it that Boris did that was according to the Gospel
I don't think he did anything according to it.
>I've already addressed Mark 6:11
You just said it's a timed event so following your logic then everything is allowed after that.
>I do not hold any judgement
So you don't have any opinions about him?
>I am not superior to anybody.
Yes, you clearly are considering you can only judge these outside of your religion as if they are lesser beings.
>You could've just been a bit more specific, you know?
The irony.
>but the flesh is weak
So they did sin and their actions were wrong?
>You're the one choosing of your own acccord
So people shouldn't ask you questions and just accept whatever you say as the truth?

>>510435865
>and in both of them I told you what matters
So what matters is not what you're doing but what your imagination prefers? How is that not pure insanity?

>>510432556 (OP)
>based

>>510435814
Can you provide a source yourself that the conversions were done peacefully?

>>510436222
>>So what matters is not what you're doing but what your imagination prefers? How is that not pure insanity?
Ok, so you either don't understand this argument at a fundamental level or you're unwilling to argue in good faith. What is even the point of typing anything then?

>>510434937
You have never read "the Bjørndal Trilogy – Og bakom synger skogene (1933), published in English as Beyond Sing the Woods; and Det blåser fra Dauingfjell (1934) and Ingen vei går utenom (1935), collectively translated under the English title The Wind from the Mountains" - have you fake Norwegian nationalist?

>>510436121
>No, you just reply with one liners.
Which is engagement. You nead me to write a whole essay for every reply?
>You already judged him in your mind.
I haven't, I know my own mind better than you, anon.
>I don't think he did anything according to it.
I doesn't matter what you think, only what God thinks.
>You just said it's a timed event so following your logic then everything is allowed after that.
Not everything is a timed event, there are some rules that do indeed apply to all Christians at all times, just not Mark 6:11 specifically.
>So you don't have any opinions about him?
No.
>Yes, you clearly are considering you can only judge these outside of your religion as if they are lesser beings.
No? Only if they're committing a sin and it's a sin that I myself are not committing.
>So they did sin and their actions were wrong?
They definitely committed sins, everyone has, the matter is what God regards as their sins and whether or not He chooses to have mercy on them and forgive them. Some of their actions were wrong, some were righteous, it's up to God to decide that and we can only come to an aproximation of the truth based on Scripture.
>So people shouldn't ask you questions and just accept whatever you say as the truth?
No?

>>510436612
>Ok, so you either don't understand this argument at a fundamental level
No, what I'm saying is that you yourself don't believe in it.

>>510436479
I didn't speak of conversion. I said Norway was a very devout Christian nation. Most Norwegians converted freely; that is true. The rest killed priests and raided peaceful Christian farmers and then you got a conflict. Source is the Viking Sagas.

>>510436650
>Which is engagement
Another useless reply.
>I haven't,
Then why are you refusing to share your opinions, you literally said that you do have your opinion about the topic.
>I doesn't matter what you think
Then how do you decide what's right and wrong?
>just not Mark 6:11 specifically
Why? That sounds very strange.
>No.
>I do have my own opinions, just because I refuse to share them doesn't mean that I don't have them.
Strange.
>Only if they're committing a sin
But Christians can commit them and it's okay, that's very strange.
>everyone has
But we are talking about some very specific things here.
>No?
Then why are you saying that I did it on my own accord when you're the one making a judgemental statement first.

>>510434450
>Traditionally, Norway was a very devout Christian nation.
Maybe if you think history began 1500 years ago (which you probably do because you're a christtard). Traditionally (that is, going back to the Ice Age), Norway was populated by Aryan tribes who had no clue what a Jew was or why they would ever want to pray to one.

>>510435520
None of what you said is an argument. Explain why you think Abrahamic doctrine is "comically" in opposition to Hellenic wisdom and why original sin would contradict Platonic and Aristotelian metaphysics.

>>510436685
Believing and failing to adhere to it isn't mutually exclusive.

Modern Christian support importers of foreigners

>>510434123
Same reason as everyone else: Jews want us all to be atheists who worship equality and the government instead of God

>>510435970
>dude not caring about personal attacks and insult means that you should let your entire country get burned down!!!!!
echt een kankermongool ben je

>>510437016
>>I haven't,
>Then why are you refusing to share your opinions,
I'm refusing to formulate one opinion on one certain topic. Not all of them.
>you literally said that you do have your opinion about the topic.
I explicitly told you that I don't have opinions on Boris.
>Then how do you decide what's right and wrong?
I don't "decide" what's right and wrong, for once. I discover what is right and wrong by studying the Bible.
>Why?
Because those orders were specifically given to the Apostles. I mean read it carefully, it doesn't make sense to apply this modus operandi to all Christians at all times:
>He charged them to take nothing for their journey except a staff—no bread, no bag, no money in their belts— but to wear sandals and not put on two tunics.
Is every Christian supposed to go with a staff, sandals and just one tunic?
>Strange.
I have other opinions on other topics, just not Boris.
>But Christians can commit them and it's okay
It's not okay.
>But we are talking about some very specific things here.
I know? I'm just refusing to have an opinion on Boris.
>Then why are you saying that I did it on my own accord
Because you did? You're denying your own free will now.
>when you're the one making a judgemental statement first.
Nothing that I've said is judgemental.

It's late, this will be my last reply.

Goodnight.

>>510437282
Christians vote for more restrictive immigration policies and always have
Non-Christians vote for less restrictive immigration policies and always have

>>510436796
> Hákon the Good, a 10th-century Norwegian king, attempted to introduce Christianity to Norway but faced resistance from pagan chieftains. While he embraced Christianity himself and even tried to establish it as the official religion, he ultimately had to renounce it to appease the pagan population.
I don't think there's any fruitful conversation that can be had here.

>>510435922
...you believe in Satan? And all Abrahamic religions are evil?

>>510435970
>hasn't read the book

>>510434078
>dysfunctional
nigger, these supposedly dysfunctional Aryans were the first to:
- walk across the ice sheet to north america (even beating the mongoloids by 5000 years),
- domesticate horses, oxen, and dogs,
- create the wheel,
- develop agriculture,
- create calendars,
- smelt bronze, and then iron
- to build giant fucking henges, pyramids, and finally buildings with arches and domes
- and to kick the asses of all the shitksins from carthage to egypt to india

the only reason anyone cares about christianity at all is because white people took it up
the crosscult interrupted all intelligent discourse in europe by about 1000 years if we use development in mathematics as a measuring stick for academic progress

>>510437109
Zero logical argument, typical Jewish kvetching with no substance.

>>510437146
You are too pathetic and stupid to realize that this was prophesied in the Bible, the apostate Church found in Revelation. You are confirming my point faggot Jew larping as a pagancuck.

>>510437423
He was not the one who converted Norway to Christianity. He needed pagan support to be King and he especially needed support from Trøndelag. I have read the Saga and you pagancuck just copy-paste wikipedia. As always you pagan morons have no clue what you are talking about. Zero respect for your White European history and you couldn't care less, unless you can twist it in some way to attack Christianity and Christians. You are Jews, brown immigrants and traitors, larping as pagancucks.

>>510437257
That makes no sense at all. Especially considering the nature of the belief.
>>510437365
>on one certain topic
That's subversive.
>I explicitly told you that I don't have opinions
I quoted the opposite.
>I don't "decide" what's right and wrong, for once.
Then you know if someone did a good or a bad thing.
>it doesn't make sense to apply this modus operandi to all Christians at all times
Why, that makes absolutely no sense. Why shouldn't they be held to that standard?
>Is every Christian supposed to go with a staff, sandals and just one tunic?
Ah, so you're talking about the physical stuff now but not teachings, how convenient. Following that logic it should be completely modernized. Ask the Orthodox what they think about that.
>It's not okay.
Yet you can't judge them.
>I'm just refusing to have an opinion
Which says enough about what you really think.
>You're denying your own free will now.
No, I simply replied to your provocation.
>Nothing that I've said is judgemental.
>but it's okay to point out the sins of the non-believers
So the non-believers are not even humans, or?

>>510434078
>OK brown tranny immigrant and fake refugee, literally, tell me what culture was "destroyed" when we converted to Christianity in Norway. Your beloved human sacrifice? Homosexuality? Drugs? What exactly? Pathetic that you had to run away from this thread:

this is a deranged marxist subhuman trying to attack the history of his race. kys you piece of shit. subhumans like you would have been killed off by vikings so no shit you shill for a religion that appeals to weaklings.

>>510437654
>He was not the one who converted Norway to Christianity
Do I really have to find even more embarrassing stuff?
>just copy-paste wikipedia
Yet you can't disprove it and just hurl insults.
>you pagancuck
I never said anything about paganism or atheism. And ironically don't even have to do anything to make you show your true colors. I don't think this is what Christian behavior is.
>in some way to attack Christianity and Christians
I have not criticized Christianity at all, just hypocrites like you.

>>510437564
christians are proto-marxists. look at how they slander and revile their ancestors and tell me it's not eerily reminiscent of soviet practices

>>510433176
>slave mentality
that's like saying a son has a slave mentality to his father

>>510437564
Making everyone christian was rome's desperate attempt to keep the empire together.

>>510433176
where are jewish and muslim columns?
if not, why just christianity?

>>510437979
Luc 22:36

>>510437564
>dysfunctional
lol, fucked up pagancuck moron. I did NOT say that we Norwegians were dysfunctional, I said paganism was dysfunctional and by that I mean our paganism i.e. Åsatru.

What you state as fact is contested history and rejected by mainstream historians. I believe that at least we had a White ruling class in those areas, but we as Whites have done so much that it is pathetic that you have to use inventions from the Middle East as something done by White Europeans. You don't have enough historical data to back it up and you will look like a clown when you state that as facts among historians. Including non-PC and honest historians. But as literally all pagancucks you really don't care about our White history, unless you can use it in some political or anti-Christian way.

Your pic is false and only a total moron would post it. Pagan Rome kicked Jews out of Jerusalem and spread them all over Europe. Jews thrived in pagan Rome, pic, and could trade, buy Roman citizenship, buy Roman land etc etc. A lot changed for the demonic Jews when Rome became Christian.

>>510432849
>We do not hate white Europeans, why would we?
Because when Aryan Europe starts a totalitarian political and economic movement that ultimately starts to revive its ancestral religion, it pushes the jeeboo church aside which means less money for rome and fewer boys to diddle for the priests. The church did as much as it could to obstruct Hitler until he was too powerful to contain.

>>510435419
>>By studying the Bible
>>510434968
>By studying the Bible
This is comedy gold. like fucken unreal comedy.
Because """""studying the Bible"""" transaltes to
>Ignore everything in the bible
>Combine verses totally out of context
>Do the opposite of what jesus ordered us to do
And most importnalty
>Make up more copes for literally every word in the bible cope that is so insane and so crazy and so impossible that only absolute cultists and schizos can buy it.

I mean the time I pointed out to the le only bible christian that what he told me is not in the bible and the bible actually takes the opposite position only for him to quote his youtubers in a wall of insane cope in unreal.

>>By studying the Bible
You become an atheists and bringing up the bible to christians you shows you that this religion is made up insanity and can not be true. NEXT!

>>510432849
>Europe is the continent that has been Christian for the longest time
That would be Africa, but who cares

>>510437979
If you die, and you leave behind all worldly possessions, then what the fuck is the point of running around like a rich cunt for a few decades and being a dick to everyone around you, when you will just be spending eternity with the very people you are shitting and spitting on you dub kike niggers.
I will not forgive you in heaven.
I will be the loudest fucking cunt saying the most obnoxious shit at the worst times possible.

Dinner in heaven? I will be sure to remind everyone of how they used to exploit the shit out of everyone at the table, and then please pass the potatoes.
Oh yeah, remember how you started jewish wars for profit?
Can I have a biscuit please?
All day, constantly.
I will offer zero forgiveness.
I will be the reminder, constantly, for all eternity, that you were cunts to me and I will be very very fucking loud about it.
You will fucking wish you were in hell nigger.
I will never forgive nor forget this shit.
10,000 years of heaven I will be LOUD AS FUCK reminding everyone that the creator allows greedy nigger kike whores into the afterlife.
And reminding everyone who those greedy nigger kike whores are.
I will be the cunt of heaven.
So either they don't get let into heaven, or I don't....

Paganism is the most backward and frankly retarded thing that has gotten into /pol/ack minds. You live in a time of record low religiosity due to the consequences of the enlightenment, and you choose to rebel against Christianity because... it's not le ancesteur religion. It's so fantastically stupid. Your illiterate ancestors knew better than to be fagans, yet you in 2025 think it's the way. I can't even begin to comprehend the mental illness.

>>510438112
>We have to let jews in and let them be in charge of our banking though!

>>510437907
>this is a deranged marxist subhuman trying to attack the history of his race
How raging homo. Tell me. So explaining WHY my forebears converted to Christianity is an attack on my forebears, while total morons and cucks like you trashing your forebears (if you were White and European) the last 1000-2000 years as weak and stupid, is not? Are high again faggot pagancuck?

>a religion that appeals to weaklings.
lol, you have clearly never reand and understood the Bible. You are clearly not White. Only a complete and utter moron would claim that a religion that first conqured paganism and then later created the greatest civilization in recorded history of man "appeals to weaklings". YOU are the weak and stupid one. YOU are the spinless faggot that are unable to adopt strong Christian morality and serve the creator of the universe and all life. Fuck off back to your video games, drugs, inter-racial porn and compulsive masturbation totally out of control, massive pagancuck faggot, pic related.

When God ruled Europe, we ruled the world.

>>510438434
You worship a jew

>>510437532
>>hasn't read the book
I did in context and all of it.
Now try to cope this commandment from your god jesus away.

>>hasn't read the book
Everyone can read it. I literally give bible codes (Matthew 5) where it is.
Or you can use this
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205&version=NIV

>>510438305
do you know that Paul doesn't reference a single teaching of Yeshua's (except for the sacrement)? Yeshua did nothing but old covenant teaching and in fact he amplified it. But once he was sacrificed on the tree and resurrected, the Holy Spirit came on the scene and the message completely changed.

You should read Paul if you want to understand what Christianity really is. Everything else is a prequel (still very important, but not for instruction for Christians).

So yeah, read the scriptures, but make sure you rightly divide the word of Truth.

>>510438446
>Fuck off back to your video games
Don't be a "no fun allowed" type. What's wrong with bideo gaems?

>>510438465
And? Is that an argument?
>pic
And what have you done as a fagan? Fought off any foreigners lately?

>>510438465
And most of Europe converted for profit motives.
It's kind of fitting

>>510437338
>>dude not caring about personal attacks and insult means
Retarded COPE.

>People literally hitting you and stealing property from you is only a le insult
I mean chrisitans are pathetic this is the point where everyone laugh at you.

>Not resisting evil people is only a le insult
New low achieved religion of self contradiction!

>>510437925
>Do I really have to find even more embarrassing stuff?
What is embarrassing? He came with a handful of priests and monks, built two churches and did not have time to convey Christianity to the local pagans in Trøndelag, before he allied with them and conquered his enemies so he could become king. How is that embarassing, faggot?
>I never said anything about paganism or atheism. And ironically don't even have to do anything to make you show your true colors
Yes, because you are a coward. As all you atheist apes larping as pagancucks, you hide what you belive, because you are embarassed and you can't defend your deranged religious view based on hedonism, nihilism and love of anal sex. You are a traitor, a faggot and a weak little man.

>>510437564
>we wuz pyramids
>we wuz rome
holy shit
what else u waz?

>>510438434
those who live by progress die by progress, if the latest popular thing is your reference point, Europeans already surpassed it and are now wholesome liberal secularists, by their own choice, because they know better and are far more literate than Europeans 100 years ago

>>510438661
I wouldn't need to fight off foreigners if you didn't keep letting jews and those jews keep letting foreigners in, christkike

>>510437979
>their ancestors
>their
kek, Levi Jensen is a jew

>>510438946
I also caught this shitskinned vermin animal with Norwegian flag
as well as a nafroid animal also larping as christian https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/404895459/#404914574

christian on /pol/ = racially foreign animal

>>510438446
>conquered paganism

ok stupid faggot i guess islam is superior to christanity because your country is being slowly converted over. lol thanks for the concession dumb faggot

>greatest civilisation ever
christendom was not so great. you want to forget the ass whoopings of the crusades like they never happened. the greatest civilisation to ever exist was the (pagan) roman empire which conquered half the known world and managed to hold back the desert tribes that would become muslim and later plague europe.

>>510438575
>You should read Paul
You need to read Acts 4 and Acts 5.


>Something something paul
IMPOSSIBLE!

It is literally inside the book you worship who you say was written by god himself.
Cope this one out!

>Something something paul
Then why the fuck is it in your gods book that you worship?
Seriously some parts of the bible like letters literally read like someone copy pasted some angry facebook debate somewhere in the middle and decided
>Yep this is what god wanted to write down!

Seriously have a read:
>Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols

Ah yes that woman Jezebel truly some timeless instruction from god not someone angry Facebook rant. Timeless wisdom because we all know who Jezebel is and what she was saying! CLOWN FACE EMOJI!

>>510438896
>the latest popular thing
Nice try. The world didn't just become secular because it was popular, numbnuts. What the fuck do you think why it happened, and how would your faganism cope with the same process?

>>510438905
But fagan Rome literally brought the Jews here.

>>510438661
We are heading towards extinction, civil war and total destruction of our race and civilization. This is not the time for White men to waste their life and time playing video games. Worse, as we can see from pagans, video games have shaped their understanding of reality, so they live constantly in fantasy land, docile and deranged, with no real understanding of who they are and the the European civilization and history truly is. Video games in small portions under control is OK, wasting your life on it, is not.

>>510439083
>Nice try. The world didn't just become secular because it was popular
neither christianity, but since you lie as you breathe, you receive the same medicine
Europeans freely chose to become secular liberals and abandon christianity, that's your logic

>>510438133
>A lot changed for the demonic Jews when Rome became Christian.
They spread across Europe and set up a worldwide banking cartel? They became more powerful than ever because the church sheltered them every time locals tried to pogrom them? The fact that you refer to them as "demonic," indicating that they are some kind of humanoid hobgoblins, instead of properly seeing them as a parasitic subspecies of human, just shows that you live in make-believe fantasy world. You might as well claim that orcs and elves are real if you're going to refer to jews as demonic or "satanic" (another world that retards like you love to use).

> mainstream historians.
mainstream historians also say that the holocaust happpened. but the fact is that aryans were the first to develop all of these things. And Kennewick man was white.

>I believe that at least we had a White ruling class in those areas
yeah, and the reason they were the ruling class is because they with their bronze weaponry easily perforated the bug-eating neolithic brownoid river dwellers they encountered. Being a foot taller than the opposition didn't hurt, either.

>>510438434
But when whites chose to rebel against their ancestral religion centuries ago, this is okay?


>>510438446
>lol, you have clearly never reand and understood the Bible.
No one understands the bible because it's reality-contradictory and even self-contradictory schizophrenic jew nonsense. If you actually believe the impossible shit that happened in the bible is real, despite it going against all experience, you are a certified dumbass. Sorry, you don't even make it to midwit status. If you absolutely need something to worship, I suggest praying to the Higgs Boson, Giver of Mass. At least the Higgs has been observed, unlike your imaginary Jew god.

>Kikes create racial hatred thread and then bump it when nobody replies.
You guys should be looking to kill yourselves.

>>510439050
>ok stupid faggot i guess islam is superior to christanity because your country is being slowly converted over. lol thanks for the concession dumb faggot
We got that AFTER godless boomers, pic related, ditched Christianity and embraced atheism, Jews and paganism, dumb faggot. Again, you are too stupid to be White, ignoramus.

>>510439168
>No one understands the bible because it's reality-contradictory and even self-contradictory schizophrenic jew nonsense
Says the idiot that has never ever read the Bible
>If you actually believe the impossible shit that happened in the bible is real, despite it going against all experience, you are a certified dumbass.
I have probably double your IQ, not even kidding.

This is a giant waste of time. Pagans are traitors, behave and think like children and there is nothing White in them. Their manners, behaviour and mental faculties are those of niggers, totally alien to White European culture, heritage, and civilization.

>>510439128
>jewish subversion is destroying europe
>we gotta worship jews harder

oy vey you are my most dumbest goyim

>>510439260
>We got that AFTER godless boomers, pic related, ditched Christianity and embraced atheism, Jews and paganism, dumb faggot. Again, you are too stupid to be White, ignoramus.

my point still stands. that you are not able to acknowledge your blatant hypocrisy betrays your low iq, probably indicating sub-saharan or middle-eastern ancestry

>>510438994
knew it LOL. you really are a stupid christstain, levi mohammed bin osloberg

>>510439083
Stop lying

Pagan Rome destroyed Judea and razed its temple

Christian rome sucked jewish dick

>>510439128
Anything in excess is bad, but frankly, the collectivist issues imposed on you by your own elites isn't something for individuals to worry about. I don't like it either, but it's not like anyone here will do anything but complain online. Might as well relax and enjoy.

>>510439164
>Europeans freely chose to become secular liberals and abandon christianity, that's your logic
It is, and why did they do that? They didn't find out that secularism is "based and muh ancestors did dat", they just gained a new understanding of the world and made their own kind of religion out of it. I find it mostly rational and that's indeed what defeated Christianity among the majority. Your faganism is a fringe idiotic movement of vikang larpers.

>>510439168
>But when whites chose to rebel against their ancestral religion centuries ago, this is okay?
You misunderstand. Your ancestors didn't convert from faganism to shamanism. They traded up for what was more advanced. How can you now go from secularism (or Christianity) to worshipping thunder gods? What is the sense in that?

>>510439584
Read a book memeflag.

>>510439575
it's your "national hero", have some respect
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/504110262/#504116676
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/493103580/#493128750

>>510439593
>why did they do that?
following your historicist/progressivist logic, more educated, people always change their beliefs into something better

>>510439711
And where are the pagan intellectuals now? I only see you seething on /pol/.

>>510432849
>They were the first peoples to convert ot Christianity, Europe is the continent that has been Christian for the longest time,
Last time I checked Armenia is not in Europe.

>>510439757
don't change the topic, following your logic, the current thing is always the best thing because people only change their beliefs into better ones, ergo Dawkins > Aquinas > Plato, correct?

>>510438946
>>510438994
>>510439164
>>510439650
1. Tell me how Jews subverted and destroyed Italy. Tell me how Romans got subverted by Jews and Masons to elect a rabid anti-Christian Masonic Jew as their mayor in the early 1900s. Give names and details, faggot Jew.

2. Give me your BEST logically sound argument that I am Levi Jensen. Use documented facts and logic only. Good luck. What is it with you Jews and pathological lying? Is it based on Jewish DNA, Jewish culture or both?

Pic. The text reads,
"Without Solving the Jewish Question
No Salvation for Mankind"
Germany 1936

>>510435138
>Christian Morality
Is "nothing you do in life matters", Christianity is complete amorality. Christianity teaches you can do right your entire and be punished forever for it and you rob and murder your way through life and beg forgiveness while being executed and be welcomed in eternal paradise. That is no morality

>>510439260
your gay ass christ-cult is almost entirely brown. Your church leaders do not now nor ever have they ever felt any compunction about converting niggers and beaners to your supposedly white ethnoreligion. There are billions more niggers and gooks alive than their should be and this is all due to Christian missions and Christian charity from retarded whiteskin Chriggers who think that the soul of a nigger is equal to the soul of a White. Maybe if your own church wasn't niggerfying itself as quickly as possible, Whites would not be leaving it in droves. Or is the browning of the church also because of muh ebil pagans?
These same stupid Chriggers then sign up war after jew war to go kill arabs and even other whites for the benefit of yidsrael. The United States armed forces have always been overwhelmingly Christian and they have been the #1 attack dog for ZOG jews for a century.

Christianity has had 1500 years to kill Jews and it's failed. Per Christian doctrine, all that Christians are permitted to do is to pray for Jews until they repent from their jewy ways and beg for forgiveness. It doesn't work, because as low IQ as most Jews are, they still aren't dumb enough to fall for that. Not when their racial religion has given them the world.

>godless boomers
most of those people in that pic were christian btw

>>510432556 (OP)
They couldn't have done shit if not for their tribe leaders didn't convert so they don't need to pay taxes to shamans it's all about elite fucking over people

>>510439908
>1. Tell me how Jews subverted and destroyed Italy.
it starts with a jew called Saul, from tarsus, he changed his name to Paul, you might know him as Saint Paul
>Tell me how Romans got subverted by Jews
see above
>Give me your BEST logically sound argument that I am Levi Jensen
oh you definitely aren't *wink wink* you just always refuse to denounce him and to say he should be deported from norway

>>510432556 (OP)
The norsekike strikes again

>>510439828
I thought your point was that paganism is somehow taking over. Yes, following that logic, secularism has defeated Christianity and religion in general because it requires far less belief in the fantastical. Christians have to believe in all manner of miracle, but fagans have to do worse. Where are the Olympian gods? We ascended Olympus and found none.

>>510439626
Jew

>>510440013
Uninstall 4chan retard.

Hitler should have holocausted Christcucks instead

>>510439990
pagan just means non abrahamic by their own(abrahamics) definition, what you have in mind are neopagans perhaps; modern japanese are "pagan", NS Germany's elite was "pagan", someone who today has any understanding of the universe, spirituality, world, that doesn't involve jewish scriptures is "pagan" in this sense
even part of the ancients themselves had doubts about the gods, miracles, etc... doesn't mean they weren't "pagans" in the eyes of an abrahamic e.g Epicureans

the question you should ask yourself is whether it's better for the future of Europe to sink back into jewish scriptures and be the equally retarded cousins of muslims and sing in churces full of fellow christian niggers, or to move into an understanding of the world that serves the interests of Europeans

worldwide jewry(includes christianity) is against your continued physical existence, choose well

>>510440351
I remember talking to you many moons ago. What you stand for is making up a new religion for practical purposes, am I correct? Your problem is that you think of religion as a tool instead of an actual spiritual device. Whereas Christianity claims divine origin, you wish to construct the "ideal OS" for normies. That will never happen now and no one would choose to believe it anyway.

>>510440299
Hitler couldn't even win a war and thought that fighting everybody was a great idea. Nazis = suckers.

>>510439593
>How can you now go from secularism (or Christianity) to worshipping thunder gods? What is the sense in that?
I'm not a pagan and I'm not worshipping thunder gods. The stupid snownigger who worships a jew just calls everyone else a "pagan" because christniggers are paranoid about "pagans" hiding behind the bookshelf even though there are like 1000 Asatruniggers in all of America. I don't worship anything because worshipping things is gay and for women. If you need a label for me, it's atheist racist. Or just "White."

>>510440700
This is literally a pagan thread. Stop acting retarded bong. What are you doing here?

>>510440523
religions are constantly "made up", abrahamics just have some hilarious mental tricks to say to themselves and others that they are the only ones allowed to do it, this criticism was literally what pagans had to say about christians, that they were rootless parvenus without tradition

religion is a tool and "tool" is not necessarily a bad word, you follow the Platonic way and meet people where they stand, a new "religion" founded without the rejection for example of Darwin and the whole apparatus of the sciences that goes back to basic ancestor worship in a modernized form(meaning, for example, you take care into defending the nation) is far, far more normie-friendly currently than anything abrahamics can offer, which is why NS Germany had the flavor of a true religious frenzy more than a simple ideological movement

>>510432556 (OP)
>>510438465
I post some facts from the bible.

>>510440915
>>510432556 (OP)
>>510438465
I post some facts from the bible.

>>510440984
>>510432556 (OP)
>>510438465
I post some facts from the bible.

>>510441024
>>510432556 (OP)
>>510438465
I post some facts from the bible.

>>510434797
But the scriptures say the pagan gods were the watchers appointed by the most high. The pagans worship the same most high God if you believe all of that stuff. If you don’t then who cares.

>>510441058
>>510432556 (OP)
>>510438465
I post some facts from the bible.

>>510440838
You're ignoring the issue here. Christianity wasn't even expected to come to the prominence it did in the late empire. It's origin wasn't as a tool, but completely focused on the supernatural and the afterlife. How does your ancestor worship do that? Why would anyone believe it? The average person isn't nearly as nationalist as you project them to be, and European nationalism is mostly fiction, too. We're all mutts, so what sort of racial Valhalla would you imagine?

>>510439593
>What is the sense in that?
p1: Human beings require a cope to deal with death
p2: Christianity is a bad cope because it makes us weak and will result in the ethnic destruction of the European peoples
p3: Paganism is a good cope because it's based in nature and our ancient ancestors
c: We should drop christianity and become pagans

>>510434797
a drunken nigger hobo could offer a more consistent metaphysical framework than a religion which has for emotional/vulgar reasons tied itself to an ""historical"" ""fact"" and the written "revelation" of a bunch of illiterate gypsy herders

>>510438434
>and you choose to rebel against Christianity because... it's not le ancesteur religion
Do you really think that this is the reason so many whites are not Christians, or are at most nominally Christian? Or do you think it might be because the Bible is full of absurd claims that contradict reality and that empirical science is way better at predicting the future and explaining things than the Bibbul is?

>>510441124
>Human beings require a cope to deal with death
I do not.
Neither does anyone else.

>b-b-b--b I do
Then you are WEAK and the WEAK are to be PURGED!

NO more lies only truth!
Screenshot this!

>>510441085
>>510432556 (OP)
>>510438465
I post some facts from the bible.

>>510441113
christianity resonated with the slaves and women that constituted the vast majority of the imperial plebeian population, there's no denying it, it met people where they stood, offering them an idea that made them chug down their miserable servile lives better
>How does your ancestor worship do that? Why would anyone believe it?
offering them a feeling of being at home somewhere and with people they are related to by blood, works in most countries in most eras and without the 24/7 propaganda by the parasitic hostile elite would work here too
>We're all mutts
yeah yeah it's all space dust etc.... spare me the normgroidal brain farts

>>510441124
Doesn't answer the question on how anyone is supposed to believe in that bullshit.

>>510441152
Really? Where's your competing religion, then? Why couldn't pagans compete? Were the European drunken illiterate gypsy herders just worse?

>>510441166
You're just rephrasing what I say. I know most people aren't pagans, which is why I'm mocking pagans here. Normal people (and I hate bringing normies into this, but they have more sense than pagans do) disbelieve in Christianity because of science, not les ancesteurs.

>>510441113
>Christ golemry wasnt a tool
Its was, is, and will always be a tool for jews to subvert Whites

>>510441316
see >>510441313
telling lowly racemixed slaves that they miserable terrestrial existence will be repaid in a cosmic commuinst commune works on them, and still does, hence why christianity and chistians are the lowliest hominids currently on the planet
paganism was too tied to the minority of the aristocracy and well birthed races

>>510441313
slaves =/= plebs
>>510441376
Okay, so how do you expect the majority now to become pagan, when the majority will always be an underclass that will find Christian ideas more favourable to them?

>>510432556 (OP)
European peoples did not grow from the soil of Europe, we are not plants. People have legs and move to places. That is what the Germanic peoples did, they moved into Europe once, they did not just magically appear from the forests. They came from somewhere, highly capable people that seem to have lost something.
It is only jews that want you to believe that White people have nothing to do with the ancient world and just dwelled in the forests for thousands of years. This is not what happened, they moved into Europe from the east, as Scythians and Goths. They came over the Caucasus, hence why we are still called "Caucasian". South from the Caucasus was where the northern house of Israelites were brought into Assyrian captivity. They lost their name Israel because they were divorced from God, thus they became "the nations" (ethnos/gentiles). Same for Greeks and Celts and Gauls etc.. They are all Israelites, that is why the Gospel went to Europe, to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (James 1:1), and Europeans bear the fruits of the Gospel and spread the Gospel to the ends of the earth, as was prophesied Israelites would do. They are in the New Covenant, as prophesied (Jeremiah 31:31-33, Hebrews 8:8-10, Hosea 1:9-10, Romans 9:25-26, 9:3-5). The scattered house called "Israel" and the house of Judah (not "jews") are in the New Covenant for 2000 years and established Christian civilization (John 10:27-28). The "jews" are not the people of God, they are a mixed multitude of antichrists in a synagogue of Satan (Revelation 2:9, 3:9).

We are not alien to the ancient world, we are the literal physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. We have a covenant with Almighty God Jesus Christ.

>>510441506
please spam this more and more, we really need to create as much hate towards subhuman christian vermin as possible

I am so glad these containment threads exist. If this shit bled over to the rest of the board, I think I would go out and start exterminating whites left and right.

>>510433176
>Xianity

Go back

>>510441479
>the majority will always be an underclass that will find Christian ideas more favourable to them?
they won't, for reasons you yourself have mentioned, to third century oriental urban mongrel masses it was believable, to your average modern prole it isn't, not without heavy reworking; but in any case, I don't hate the average Euro normie so much as to want to feed them the most humiliating psychic fodder in order to enslave them as thoroughly as possible, I think a basic system similar to what the Japanese do would work among modern Europeans as well

>>510441225
Both of our positions on it are irrelevant. The vast majority of people demand a cope in order to keep going, it has always been like this. People are not strong enough to deal with death head on. Chances are you say you don't need a cope but then believe in reincarnation or some shit.
>>510441316
Why would anyone who already believes in a spiritual world with gods have any problem swapping one belief for the other? I don't get your objection. Their goal is not to convert atheists but to convert christians to something else.

>>510441506

>a DNA study blocks your path

all that cope of a wall of text only to be destroyed this easily.

>>510441626
What in particular angers you about it?

>>510441676
What do the nips do anyway? Aren't they spme of the most suicidal bugmen?

>>510441702
For these reasons:
>>510439990
>>510440523
>>510441113

>>510432556 (OP)
>Christianity is literally the reason why there is any European culture
>the middle ages were the height of technological advancements surpassing the Roman empire by a long shot
>before it, Europe were just shitty mudhuts with snowniggers raiding and killing their own people
>Christianity kept Europe White and to this day, the religious Eastern European countries are all nearly 100% White and defend their borders against sandniggers
>Western Europe started to become a shithole filled with brown people the moment Atheism started to become a mainstream view
>HURRDURR CHRISTIANITY DESTROYED EUROPE
Varg is a retarded Wigger who loves Turkish dicks btw.

>>510441970
Yes but Europe is now full of foreigners after secularization. Why did you Christians do dis? lol

>>510441970
poor bait 2/10, way too obvious even if you were a shitskin squatter

>>510441702
>Both of our positions on it are irrelevant.
So you reject evolution like the cuckold you are. Found another secular creationist.
>The vast majority of people demand a cope in order to keep going,
False however continue.

> People are not strong enough to deal with death
I am.

>a cope but then believe in reincarnation or some shit.
No reincarnation no nothing. Death = annihilation for all.
Only this worldview makes any sense whatsoever.

If you believe in an afterlife then tell me why not kill yourself? Why even care to win in this life if you go to super magic fun land after you die?

PS:

>reincarnation
Why the fuck would anyone want to go to Buddhist hell?
reincarnation = Buddhist hell
reincarnation = the universe punishes you with reincarnation and not annihilation (nirvana)

Also does Buddhism not like debunk you?
Since Buddhist want annihilation after death and to never be reincarnated? Only they can not because magic bullshit bla bla bla karma bla bla?

So Buddhist want what I tell you everyone gets for free after they die. Total annihilation.

>>510441967
putting aside globohomo culture enforced on them by christogolem USA, they managed to neatly conjugate modernity with their traditional ethnocentrism, they don't get a panic attack if they read about Darwin and evolution because it's not written somewhere in some ancient jewish scribbles, and at the same time they maintain national chauvinism based ultimately around a cult of the ancestors instead of the christian derived psychosis of having to make everyone on the planet the same uniform Christian™ biomass

>>510442063
I'm Christian and I don't mind permadeath. That said, Pascal's wager, and also, I believe in a Creator, and I choose to believe that the Abrahamic God is the one, because why wouldn't the Creator introduce Himself to us?

>>510434078
Sar he is varg sar

>>510442021
The general problem with Christianity is, that the protestants let women preach and invited women into their realms of authority.
Since women are all emotional retards and Germany has an equal amount of Catholics and Protestants, they also infiltrated not only the churches but also the government.
Obviously, the main contender for this happening were Jews, who hate Jesus with a passion and therefore gave women rights.

>>510441970
>Western Europe started to become a shithole filled with brown people the moment Atheism started to become a mainstream view
Almost. What actually happened is that Europe started to become a shithole when the White Christian Allies decided to bomb their "traditional Christian" (your words, not mine) homelands because some Jews told them to.

>>510442169
Right, so your point (which was to be expected) is that religion should only serve nationalist/chauvinist purposes because universalism is disgustang. However, universalism and the global melting pot is inevitable, so maybe the best move is to make it as eugenic as possible instead of regressing into nationalism which isn't even really historic. Now you'll mention negroes and Indians, but feminism and capitalism together are doing a fine job keeping them down in white countries. It would be better to export these ideas to their countries.

>>510442252
>problem with Christianity
>that the protestants
Sorry, I don't recognize those as Christian. Even ancient heresies are better.

>>510442435
>However, universalism and the global melting pot is inevitable
it's only inevitable if jews and their tikkun olam serfs christians and muslims maintain power, the historical and prehistorical trajectory is the opposite and of differentiation

>make it as eugenic as possible
impossible religions like christianity and islam thrive on dysgenic policies and on leveling everything down to the lowest common denominator, you can't even abort the downies because they make fantastic christians

Came down here 200 years ago to butcher a cutlet race with the edge of the fucking sword. And now it's time for jew meat in due season. For the goyim.
>>510432556 (OP)

>>510442252
>The general problem with Christianity is, that the protestants let women preach and invited women into their realms of authority.
The general problem with Christianity is that it purports that a jew who was born of a virgin and then came back from the dead is totally what happened and you will be burned at the stake for heresy if you don't accept this as literal fact. You really don't have to examine the religion or its effects on society beyond this ridiculous proposition.

>>510442624
nonsensical picture, there is no pan-jewish bottleneck, it's like saying that the amish bottleneck is because christians were persecuted in modern Europe, the bottleneck i only of ashkenazis and it's followed by centuries of amish tier birth rates in christian east Europe
christians lie like they breathe and are far worse than jews, evidence #3464458283245

>>510442178
>Pascal's wager,
Ah yes the paranoid schizophrenic known as Pascal!
What about it?

>Dude what if this literally impossible thing (because of decades of facts and reasoning) can happen?
Impossible thing can not happen.

Wow this was fast. Christianity is literally impossible even if it is true then literally no one in the history of humanity did follow it and all they say violates the bible or they need to cope away 99.999% of the bible.
This is literally a impossible religion who can not be true based on it disproving itself.

However lets do that with other religion
>Dude what if Islam can be true? 50% chance man!
Only then we get a religion like Christianity so what now? It is literally impossible to be a christian and a Muslim at the same time

See why this is childish crap?

>Dude what if Christianity can be true? 50% chance man!
NO that is not how probability works!
Also you need to be a man and stand up for something instead of fearing something that has 0.00000000000000000001% chance of happening according to your nonsense and ZERO chance of happening because of the religion itself disproving itself!

>Pascal's wager,
OK lets play this for real.
>Lets take race mixing Christianity (over 99.999999999999999999% of all churches)
>Dude Pascal's wager! MAN! Better stop being racist since if you are wrong you will go to hell! Better star race mixing!

See how your imaginary delusions have a impact on real life? Do we do the same with LGBT Christianity?

>>510442569
>it's only inevitable if jews and their tikkun olam serfs christians and muslims maintain power
No, lol. Funny how everything is the fault of kikes and Christians. Do you really find this to be a believable position? Regular people are just citizens of the world by their own convictions. I've met nationalists I've told that closing down borders to ALL immigration is necessary for long-term national survival, and they just couldn't cope with the idea. Nationalism simply cannot survive except as an idea that's mostly propagated by the more primitive underclass.

>>510442569
>impossible religions like christianity and islam thrive on dysgenic policies and on leveling everything down to the lowest common denominator
Natalism in general is like that, but who's going to force the genetically gifted to reproduce? They're too busy living life. All that's left is the competition in the arena of life. I am too afraid of low IQ browns flooding our nations, but maybe robots and AI can replace them, making their lives here intolerable if not impossible.
>downies
Not like they breed.

I Am Great Returned And These Satanists Have Never Been Mad Before. Slay Them.

Why do you guys insist on being so retarded?

>>510441967
Those reasons don't really address the point. You're asking why would atheists renounce a secular worldview and become pagans but what's being proposed is to turn christians into pagans which requires only a recalibration instead of a total worldview change. In other words they already believe in the fantastical so it's not that big a leap anyways.
>>510442063
>you reject evolution
Wtf? You have to be a total retard to jump to this conclusion from what I posted earlier. It's exactly the opposite, the evolution of our cognitive levels were a double-edged sword evolutionarily speaking therefore we developed the copes. And what the fuck is a "secular creationist"? You're not worth replying or reading further since your first words already show very low cognitive ability or dishonest argumentation.

>>510433176
You're welcome for the entire continent you currently reside on. If it were up to "Odin or Jupiter or Mithros or whatever "god" you faggots are worshipping this week, you'd still be living in mud huts dying of medieval AIDS.

>>510442774
IDK man, I want to respond seriously to you, but your post comes off as schizo. Can you rephrase it and be more coherent?

>>510432556 (OP)
>their own cultures
such as? what is your ancestral ideology or spirituality you will replace christianity with? it's easy to say you are a pagan because it doesn't mean anything today. are you gonna sacrifice bulls to a specific god in exchange for favor? are you gonna worship your grandpa? or just new age stuff but for men?

>>510439509
>High iq christkek loves jews and atheists
Epic

>>510439914
Show flag schlomo

>>510442921
It's not the same because paganism is obviously bunk, whereas Christianity can be made believable enough (as evidenced by billions of (mostly nominal) Christians). European paganism is dead for a good reason. Where are the Olympians bro?

>>510442178
Pascal's wager is quite dumb and worthless since it presupposes certain aspects of god to begin with. You can invert Pascal's wager by presupposing the inverse: that god wants you to not believe in him. You don't have any good reason to presuppose one over the other.

>>510442827
>No, lol. Funny how everything is the fault of kikes and Christians. Do you really find this to be a believable position?
like the sky is blue, it's all around us, every single jewish and glorified jew 2.0 organization supports universalism and globalism, christians are some of the most directly involved in the kalergization of Europe
>Regular people are just citizens of the world by their own convictions.
hardly, you are thinking about an increasingly shrinking minority of what are commonly named champagne leftists, middle-upper earning people who live in major cities sheltered from the diversity they created and the negative economic effects of globalism
for the average shrinking middle class and low class pleb, the negative effects of globalism are becoming impossible to tolerate and you would easily sell them closed borders, return of industry and the jobs they carry with them together with the security of homogeneous communities

>>510443064
>You can invert Pascal's wager by presupposing the inverse: that god wants you to not believe in him.
And yet has not revealed this to us.
>You don't have any good reason to presuppose one over the other.
Is that why we have a worldwide Abrahamic religion?

>>510434797
I was actually the one mocking fedora tippers. Defending theology made me reject monotheism.

>>510442602
Judaism wasn't even a thing until 500 ad, also the racial make up of first century Palestine was more in the realms of a White nation than after the arabisation 600 ad in the area.
Ever saw how Levites look? They are fucking White.

>>510442939
one can tell your are a christrat by the inability to comprehend a basic english post talking about the past and when christanzee ZOGdogs chimped out on local European cultures

>>510437384
So? Churches are still all in on importing foreigners. If the churches are doing it the congregants are supporting it

>>510443101
>like the sky is blue, it's all around us, every single jewish and glorified jew 2.0 organization supports universalism and globalism, christians are some of the most directly involved in the kalergization of Europe
It's really mostly just your governments at the behest of big businesses.
>who live in major cities sheltered from the diversity they created and the negative economic effects of globalism
Those are epicentres of diversity.
>for the average shrinking middle class and low class pleb, the negative effects of globalism are becoming impossible to tolerate and you would easily sell them closed borders, return of industry and the jobs they carry with them together with the security of homogeneous communities
Too late. They believed in democracy and not have to outvote the foreigner. Never gonna happen.

>>510443040
>obviously bunk unlike christianity
You must be kidding right? Many pagan gods are symbolic representations of Nature. For example Neptune is the god of the sea,Venus is the goddess of love. They represent the energies that our ancestors saw in these domains of life. To say that this is bunk but a jewish carpenter collecting foreskins is totally believable is quite the retarded position for a secular person to take. I don't see how you can justify it.

The primary reason to adopt Christianity as far as I've read was to supply a metaphysical basis for an absolute monarch. Multiple gods suggest a more shared power structure, but one god suggests one king as his representative on Earth; so ambitious kings preferred the Christian worldview.

It's surely the height of irony that a religion founded and characterized by a pacifist martyr who loved the poor and weak was always best propagated by rich, autocratic, ruthlessly violent kings and knights.

>>510442939
Option C, yet they still end up doing the same shit wiccans/witches/spiritual™ women do.

However most just claim to be "pagan" as a counter to Christianity. It's the same thing as people who claimed to be satanists in the 80s and then internet atheists int he 00s. Atheism lost it appeal once people connected the dots between atheism and trannyism, nihilism, furries, etc.

>>510442178
>and also, I believe
lets translate this
> I believe
You list the argument right here.
What does the word "believe" mean?

believe = accepting something as true without evidence.
In other words a child believes in the magic Santa clause you believe in the magic god creator.

>I believe in a Creator,
See above
>I believe in Santa clause

>and I choose to believe that the Abrahamic God
See above
>and I choose to believe that the it is the flying spaghetti monster
Literally same argument only the spaghetti monster makes more sense since it is not this level of self debunking as the christian religion and god.

>Creator
So you ignore reality. All the evidence for evolution the basic reasonings... all of it....

OK let go with that
>Creator
OK explain where all the races did come from. I wait.
What race where Adam and Eve!
I WAIT!
Created by the same god all of them!

>because why wouldn't the Creator introduce Himself to us?
To the jews only....

>because why wouldn't the Creator introduce Himself to us?
In the most insane way possible?
Did you even read the bible? And like think?
See picture.
The bible literally argues against the existence of an afterlife and what is pro is very shaky at best. WHY THE FUCK would your god do that?

The NT is pure insanity Christians need to cope 24/7....
Literally none of your doctrines like the afterlife, heaven, hell etc are answered and only conflicting words spoken while most of the NT are insane ramblings that make no sense (according to EVERYONE EVEN THE BIBLE ITSELF!) and literally 1 century facebook post rants about some woman or man who is long dead. Why the fuck are letters of some guy included as the word of your god?

have a read:
>You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality

Ah yes that woman Jezebel truly some timeless instruction from god not someone angry Facebook rant. Timeless wisdom because we all know who Jezebel is !

>>510443210
>Ever saw how Levites look
No. Show some pics.

Death Thread

>>510443318
Ah, yes. It's just symbolic. I guess so is Christianity, then. Problem solved.

>>510432849
everything this jew says is a lie

>They were the first peoples to convert ot Christianity

Europe's elite converted majorly around the millenium. But most countries redated their glorious "christian past" so it's probably a retcon. The people "became" christian much later so Europe has been under the kike yoke only for 6-700 years.

>Our problem with white Europeans today is that so many of them have turned away from Christ.
everytime we go full christ retard, Europe suffers. Right now judeo-christianity is strong, which is why we get swarmed with brown people. There is no reason for this replacement but J-C.

>I meant to say that white Europeans were the first gentiles to convert to Christianity.
total horshit. There's so many older middle easterners and even niggers who went judeo-christian before Europe.

Judeo-christianity is the scourge of all White people. Those who follow the disgusting rabbi will literally not survive, it's as simple as that.

>>510443351
Skimmed through the schizo rant, but where does your Big Bang come from? Can you go infinitely into the past? Was matter simply >always< there?

>>510443300
at some point it becomes a matter of people getting what they deserve, Europeans have the choice of abandoning universalism and thus ipso facto christianity and thus existing past 2100 or to perish to abrahamic racial entropy and permanent brazilification, it's up to them, christians already chose their side

>>510437384
Except every CU and CDA lol.

>>510437384
Every major Christian instruction is heavily imbedded in third worldism.
Christianity is nominally tied to provincialism and conservatism out of cultural inertia which is why it’s associated with “Right Wing values”
But the “based Christian” is very much at odds with the direct messaging of his church and congregation which is literally a DIRECT supporter of the things he dislikes.

>>510443210
nigger i don't fucking care about who the real jews were. Whoever they were, none of them came back from the dead. If you believe that a man can come back from the dead, you are a sucker who will believe anything. xtianity is the sucker test that every groveling, blubbering xdog has FAILED

>>510443123
>muh revelations
Weren't you arguing from a secular perspective? Why are you bringing up fairy tales now all of a sudden?
Pascal's wager only works if you're really low iq, it doesn't survive the challenge I presented. No need to deflect.

it really is telling that all the flags shilling for christianity are american and those attacking it are not once more proving the only young people still believing in gay religions are brown mexcrement invaders

>>510443351
Yet another fedora atheist keyboard warrior so autistic that They/Them is allergic to nuance in biblical text. Jesus had a sense of humor and also spoke nuanced words/parabels. He didn't literally say "you sinned you must cut out your eye at once" and hand his disciples a blade. Rather he was speaking hyperbolically. If I told you "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse" I don't really have an appetite for horse, anon.

>>510442921
>Wtf?
This is your own logic.
Things that have evolved can not have a creator.
WTF do you think a CREATOR is?

>And what the fuck is a "secular creationist"?
Exactly what it says a creationists who does not do the god and bible part.

>"secular creationist"?
Example every leftist is a secular creationist.
>Humans evolved and evolution is true!
>HOWEVER WE ARE ALL THE SAME HUMAN RACES DO NOT EXIST YOU RACIST!
So a secular creationist he in his insanity thinks that god magically created all races out of nothing (creationism) only he says that god is not real so a secular creationist.

> And what the fuck is a "secular creationist"?
WOW this really trigered you and made you angry.

>You're not worth replying or reading further since your first words already show
I accept your unconditional surrender. Now go back into your corner where you ignore everyone who thinks differently.

>>510442936
>Can you rephrase it and be more coherent?
It is perfectly understandable.

>>510443410
Can you jew worshiping christ slaves quit pretending to hate jews? Thanks

>>510443489
Voter*

>>510443064
>You don't have any good reason to presuppose one over the other.
Here is where we disagree.
>Whatever you make up that makes logical sense
VS
>The self debunking trash of the bible and Christianity
One is not like the other.

>>510443551
Where's the flaw? If God wants you to not believe Him (why the fuck would he want that?), we'd have an atheist religion long ago.
>Pascal's wager only works if you're really low iq
>Pascal is low IQ
>says random moortugeese literally who

>>510442922
>Whites couldnt create anything without the help of a jewish cult manuala that tells you how to sell your daughter into slavery
KEK

>>510443636
Sure, but it's vomit and I'd like you to write it better.

>>510443411
From a secular perspective, yes.
For the people who believe in spirits and gods, jumping from christianity to paganism is not a big deal in a spiritual sense since there's not that big a change in worldview anyways. You still have life after death and all that.

>illiteracy
>child sacrifice
>subsistence farming
No, they embraced Monotheism.
The chieftains of our ancestors accepted baptism.
That gave birth to the first petty kingships and Europa.

Out of my holy land and U.S.A.E., Sheklant Heeb. Your meat is one dollar a pound.
>>510443677

>>510443805
the first king of the Franks was still pagan
taking over Roman civilization is wholly independent from jew worship

now, una cerveza por favor i un taco, gracias

I'm so happy to see retarded idiots like Corey Mahler that thinks Christianity isn't Jewish and that Christianity allows racism get excommunicated and kicked out from his church.

So fucking funny because every single church denounces these online X Christ is Kang faggots.

>>510442939
Why would anyone need to meet your demands for what a "real" pagan should be doing, Cortez? Who made you the arbiter of sincere interest in our own history? We can simply take an interest in the material we have in whatever level that we take an interest and use it as we see fit. It's not a foreign program, it's our own. One uses one's own property in the manner he desires, not the manner demanded.

There's no reason to particularly respect Christians on this front anyway when Jesus is very clear about poverty being a preferable state of life but the vast majority of Christians are still trying to get rich anyway, and that's just one bit of selective listening in Christian practice. How about you remove the beam from your own eye before you complain about the splinter in mine? Give your stuff away and get a zero bank balance before you talk to anyone about their beliefs being "easy."

>>510443471
>Skimmed through
LEARN TO READ.

>Oh you debunked my entire ideology and religion
>Howevre what about the le big bang? Check mate atheists!

The big bang is nonsense made up by a catholic priest to secretly inject god into science and that was made dogma in science in the 90s!

>Was matter simply >always< there?
I presume that or some other cycle it only makes sense. However why are you concerning yourself about this nonsense?

>Dude what about how a gas behaves zilions and zilions and zilions years into the past
That is autistic crap
Why not talk about the here and there and our interaction with other humans? Like who gives a shit how a galaxy 500 billion light years traveled in the past? How about the here and now and the fall of the west?

Any more copy pasted reddit arguments?

>>510443789
I don't think so. Christianity has the momentum and numbers to make itself a believable religion (legitimacy by effect), whereas paganism is dead and historically tied to even wilder superstition than Christianity. You explaining it as symbolism solves nothing.

>>510432556 (OP)
Look at the shill!
>destroyed their own cultures and religions
More like realized Christ was their old gods made flesh.
>Jewish invention Christianity.
Wasn't Jewish until about 300(ish) years ago lol read a history book.
Inb4 "we wuz kikes"!

>>510434078
Anon Christianity brought massive non stop warring to Europe, to the point it created a massive exodus out of Europe.

>>510443936
Joosh To Death Then Because It Is All There. Judaism Is Satanism, And The Jews Always Team Up To Kill The Jews.

>>510432556 (OP)
christians are built for bbc and i have a bbc ready for them

>>510444063
Are you just pretending to be retarded? The question of the origin of the universe is intimately tied with the question of a Divine Creator. Now explain infinite past to me. Surely physicists have some answers to this?

>>510444117
you mean BBF

>>510443604
Dude you are literally retarded, I will not reply after this one.
My position from the start is that human beings evolved higher and higher cognition levels which is a double-edged sword because it allowed for total domination of our environments on one hand but on the other hand it gave us a deep awareness of our mortality.
While our cognition is used to make us dominate, it also needs to be used to make us cope. That is why we needed to invent religions and rituals and all sorts of beliefs so we wouldn't go crazy.
Now for some reason after reading this you reply to me with
>LOL so you deny evolution?!?!? Creationist!
which means you are straight up a retard. Leave Europe and go back to your home country nigger

>>510443995
being a Real Christian™ requires only some imagination, not like those fake christians on mount athos or some levantine village

>>510432556 (OP)
Pagans literally have a ritual where they ceremonially drink sap from a tree in order simulate drinking odin’s cum.

I’d rather stick to a non-cum guzzling religion thank you very much.

>>510432849
Many of your “great churches” were converted pagan temples, lol. European Christianity was only as halfway OK as it was because of syncretism with the aspects of paganism you just couldn’t destroy

>>510444288
cum guzzling is jesuspilled, repent

>>510444067
>Jew worship is legitimate
>Not your peoples religion
> :^)

>>510438434
>rebel against Christianity because... it's not le ancesteur religion
Yes
>>510443006
This is all Jew worshippers can do, use names of their own holy men as insults. Shlomo is a version of the name Solomon who was, according to Jewish and therefore Christian tradition, one of the holiest men to ever live. It is insane how they use the names of the holiest men in their own religion as accusations
And also whine about flags. Remember: EVERY newfag whining about flags is a Christian

>>510444314
>Jew Jew Jew Jew JEWS!
Not an argument.
Now what would be an argument for a religion? How about the fact that it being dead and buried proves it to be false? Why did pagan gods fail their worshippers?

>>510444206
christian mouths love dirty black anus

>>510432556 (OP)
>worship the wooden pole
stfu nigger

>>510443575
>esus had a sense of humor
Translation:
>everytihng I do not like in the bible is like a joke
>Jesus is being ironic
LOL you religion is a joke!

>parabels
You do not know what this word means!

>I don't really have an appetite for horse, anon.
A retarded phrase that only exists in the English language!

>"I'm so hungry I could eat a horse"
Your point does not even make sense!
Do you even understand what the combination of "I could" means?

> I don't really have
Funny how the product of your god of ironic talking is literally nothing and shit and countless christian sects murdering themselves over the trash he did say...
Want to talk about that autism? Are all of them also autistic?
I can also play the
>You autist jesus is ironic here!
Line on every bible part you use to support your own ideology!

How about that real life laws and engineering specification are not made with the same ironic jesus talking method? Precision is key.

PS:
>Jesus is le ironic
I am talking about your book having literal facebook rants copy pasted into it from people who are not jesus or god! Or how literally no one can understand WTF the point here is since no one knows who the fuck this Jezebel is!

Is the bible gods shitpost to humanity?

>>510443725
>If God wants you to not believe Him (why the fuck would he want that?)
Why not? Do we have to guess why god wants what he wants now? Maybe life is a test.
What reason do you have to justify your belief that there is a god that really wants us to believe in him?
It's a completely arbitrary position to take and just as valid as the inverse position.
Yes Pascal's wager is extremely low IQ but I'll wait for you to propose a rational argument as to why a god would want one thing over the other.

>>510444383
>You have to worship jews!
>There is no argument
Very compelling

>>510443805

Liberalism is really another word for atheism. Neoliberalism is a secular world order.

I am a Muslim of European descent and understand the importance of Christianity in Europe's history.

Now that secularism is destroying the West I preach Islam to bring people back to God.

To take Europe and USA back from zionists, restore the family and marriage.

>>510441070
>say the pagan gods were the watchers appointed by the most high
it was punishment. humanity rebelled against God at Babel and Gods response was "I give your your foreign gods, see how it works out for you".
thousands of years later and people still worship these demonic powers who will be punished in the second coming.

>>510432556 (OP)
When people call christianity OR islam a "jewish psyop" or whatever
...you can bet your bottom dollar right then & there
THAT THEY NEVER READ THE BOOK
...which just so happens to be an extremely long 'testament' *against* the people who are supposedly doing the psyopping.
/end

>>510444234
>I will not reply after this one.
I won the debate on the grounds of my opponent refusing to debate.
Thank you.

>is that human beings evolved higher and higher cognition levels which is
How does god fit into this or a creator. Do you understand what a creator even is?

>is that human beings evolved higher and higher cognition levels which is
And this can be harmonized with the bible and creationism and Adam and Eve and the apple and snake how?
>The bible is a book full of lies and meaningless shit
OK so is the rest of it.

>the other hand it gave us a deep awareness of our mortality.
NOPE. Not for me.
And you can not explain this!

>b-b-b WE
English lacks the exclusive WE and this is a shame. Not for me.
Only for you and other subhuman trash like you.

>which means you are straight up a retard.
And he says I am the schizo one!

>>510439050
>) roman empire which conquered half the known world and managed to hold back the desert tribes that would become muslim and later plague europe.
bitch they made everyone a roman citizen. a fucking desert dweller could move to rome and claim he is a roman. rome was the first globohomo empire.
even the bible recounts Paul repeatedly waving his "I am actually a roman citizen" card when being persecuted.

>>510444489
>What reason
What do you think the Abrahamic religion is? That's the assumed Word of God. If God wants us to do something, He would reveal it. Why would God wait for you to decide to become transhuman cloven-hoofed brony, but never help create a religion out of it so we can do His will? That's just absurdification of the argument.
>extremely low IQ
And how have you outdone Pascal?

>>510444875
Nigger pascals wager assumes theres only one god when there are an Infinite possible number meaning his wager is the worst idea possible

Pagan LARPers are some of the most historically ignorant people out there. Among many things, they forget:
>The Hellenic orgins of Christianity - the NT is written in Greek. The Levant was Hellenised centuries before Jesus died.
>The Roman Empire was in decline before Christianity had any significant influence on it
>The highest achievements of Europe were all made under Christianity
>Paganism was variegated and in most socities it achieved next to fuck all - where that wasnt the case (Rome, Greece) culture succumbed to spiritual and moral crises that were acutely felt
If you want to go back to worshipping demons because your lust to commit racial idolatry cant mesh with "cuckstianity", go ahead. But do remember that pagan Rome was multicult as fuck long before Christians took power and the barbarians that destabilised it were white as the driven snow

>>510432556 (OP)
You are nothing but a talmud-loving slave of the synagogue of Satan. You and the other brainwashed slaves of modern babylonian indoctrination will all perish in Hell if you do not repent and side against the synagogue of Satan.

>>510445026
How many religions have a concept of hell as punishment for disbelief?

>>510445051
>>The Hellenic orgins of Christianity
hahaha funny little christianzee beast, now do the Germanic origins of Marxism, the English origins of Gangsta rap, etc....

>>510443725
>>Pascal is
Pascal is A SCHIZO!

>says
SAYS ME.

Christians have a long tradition of elevating schizo trash if the schizo says things that they like see jorden peterson and his insanity.

>we'd have an atheist religion long ago.
Say the one whose religion is the one dying out....
CLOWN EMOJI
CLOWN EMOJI
CLOWN EMOJI

>>510445051
>We wuz da real hebrew speaking afro semites, sheeeit
>Not you pagan larpers!
Nigger Hebrews arent European, youre the only one larping

christianity is for a people who have nothing else.
I'm not saying this to be rude, but all the religious christians here are all former drug addicts or losers...
like good for you bro, not everyone needs a jew to control their life though.

>>510445196
>Pascal is A SCHIZO.
>says ranting 4chan schizophrenic

>Say the one whose religion is the one dying out....
Non-sequitur, but formally there are 2.4B Christians.

>>510445138
Plenty. That's probably something you ask google. For example, christ nigger cucks didnt have the concept until they stole it from the hellenics, although the hindus had it long before them snd the buddhists as well

>>510444875
>And how have you outdone Pascal?
I debunked the wager in a couple of sentences. I'm still waiting for you to address it instead of deflecting. The presupposition is based on pure faith instead of reason which makes the "rational" based argument invalid.
I'm assuming you are a christian? Why do you want to hang on to this low iq argument instead of simply stating you have faith in your belief? A 60 iq grug who believes because of faith is much more respectable than the 95iq retard who takes Pascal's wager seriously.

>>510432556 (OP)
>They destroyed their own cultures and religions
They destroyed cultures and religions
that let their people fuck little boys.

>>510443238
>one can tell your are a christrat by the inability to comprehend a basic english post talking about the past and when christanzee ZOGdogs chimped out on local European cultures
i'm not baptized, so i'm not christian by any true christian measure, i'm just don't have any problem with medieval spainish ideology or spirituality, just asking for details about exactly which "local cultures" you want to revive, can you provide those detail? maybe i won't have problems with those either, but hard to judge without details
>>510443995
i am not asking you to be "real" pagan, i am just asking what do you mean by pagan at all, you can choose whatever you want i'm not imposing anything on you, just provide details so i can judge it, it's very easy to speak from a place of nowhere, judge everybody and stand for nothing yourself
as you say some christians are hypocrites, but we can judge that they are hypocrites because we know what christians believe, how can we judge you if you won't even say what you believe?

>>510445433
bro you sound like a demon that crawled out of the gates of hell. why are you trying to make christians think?..... you're going to cause him to deconvert

>>510435832
>he looks happy
As the retarded often do

>>510432556 (OP)
Christ won oslo kike
Get over it

>>510445549
>How can we judge you?
You can't, we dont accept the opinions of jew worshipping golem retards. Your opinion is utterly invalid

>>510445141
>>510445255
>retarded replies
Big surprise

>>510444164
>The question of the origin of the universe is
For retards with autism.

Now lets talk about what is really important!
>Now explain
Why the fuck should I?
No serious question why?

>b-b--b-b explain infinite past to me
How about we talk how your religion imports millions of niggers instead?

See why your cosmic shit is retarded?
>b-b--b-b infinite past
Is irrelevant while your country burns down.
See why your cosmic shit is retarded?

>>510445722
No arguments from the christ nigger

>>510445331
In some forms, but hell or banishment from Heaven for disbelief is a Christian notion.

>>510445433
You said that the position is arbitrary and just as valid as the inverse position. Why? Should pagans disobey their gods because their will is arbitrary and maybe the Olympians actually want you to disobey them? Why should anyone believe in any god if gods are just playing 5D chess?

>>510445708
>You can't, we dont accept the opinions of jew worshipping golem retards. Your opinion is utterly invalid
you won't even be open about what you believe, might as well write your own Talmud

>>510445553
Ty brother Heil Satan
He can upgrade from the 95 iq Pascal's wager position to the 105 iq TAG position after this. It's just embarrassing to see someone advocate for Pascal's wager in a serious manner.

>>510445777
Just admit that you're retarded and walk out of the conversation.
>b-but I don't want to think about things
Then stfu.

>>510445811
Who gives a fuck about some Jewish cult that stole it's ideas? I have no reason whatsoever to believe jewish myths

>>510445846
>If you dont accept worshipping jews
>Its like the talmud
Sure thing, christ nigger. Suck that circumcised jesus cock

>>510445889
That's alright. What myths do you believe in and why?

>>510432849
>greatest theologians, thinkers, writers have come from Europe.
Yeah and they came before Christianity and they continue to come despite Christianity.
It's in our bones, not some jewish ghost.

>>510445949
I reject jewish myths, why do i need anything beyond that? Oh because youre a shill trying to keep Whites from overthrowing your jewish attempt at workd dominance

>>510446016
I don't care about atheists. I'm here to ridicule fagans. Atheists make enough sense.

>>510445944
i didn't ask you to be a christian, just to be open about what you want to replace christianity with, it's a basic question, if the answer is nothing that's great but you have nothing to offer, we already tried the new atheist just stop being christian and everything will magically work, and got tranny kids in exchange, so don't mind me for being skeptic about negative ideologies with zero positive claims

>>510433176
This.
Christianity is a foreign cult brought by Judeans.

>>510446044
>Im here to promote jew worship
Yeah, we know, foreskin eater

>>510446074
Rent free.

>>510446065
>You have to default to jew worship, goyim!
Nah

>>510445328
>Non-sequitur,
So you do not understand basic facts

>If your made up nonsense is true we would have an atheist religion long ago.
Meanwhile your religion is dying out...
So what is the conclusion here?!

Literally a IQ test for having 50 IQ
>but formally there are 2.4B Christians.
And some years later only 2B
And then 1B
And then...

See how this works?

>>510446093
>Still promoting jew worship
Not really helping your case

>>510446118
Yes, and our below replacement rate births means we'll go extinct soon. Nice going, retard.

>>510446145
Where did I push Christianity on you? Go ahead and be atheist. Happy?

>>510445811
The position that god wants you to believe in him or else you're going to burn in hell is completely arbitrary. You are assuming a bunch of stuff about this god to begin with. Pascal's wager relies on these assumptions being taken for granted.
What if I present you the "Anon's wager" that relies on the assumption that god designed this world as a test and you only pass the test if you don't believe in him?
There is no reason for you to choose one assumption over the other. You call it 5d chess because you take it for granted that the assumption you like is the correct one.

>>510446190
This entire thread is you trying to delegitimize narive European religions in favor of your Afro semitic dick-clipping desert cult

>>510445856
>>b-but I don't want to think about IRELEVANT things
See how you are retarded
>noo stop talking about the west burning down and white genocide!
>what about my absurd hypothetical that only confuses me in my limited language!
>muh infinities!
You need to be immediately culturally enriched by a mob of POC!

>>510446218
Pascal didn't assume these things but taken them directly from Christianity, as you already know. Christianity as a religion is founded by people claiming witness to miracles etc. Ultimately founded on belief, but it's not at all arbitrary. Now where does "Anon's wager" come from besides your own ass?

>>510446258
Ah, so you are a fagan, but afraid to argue about it and instead focus on Christianity. Figures.

>>510446290
Projecting dutchcuck issues.

>>510446290
Thread is about religion and then you nope out of difficult questions by derailing it to talk about huwite genocide. Introduce a hammer to all your devices.

>>510446369
Youre a jew worshipper lol

>>510446426
Where da Olympians at bro? How did they lose to the Magic Crucified Jew? Pathetic.

>>510432556 (OP)
It's a Middle Eastern disease created in the sand lands and then brought to Rome with migrants.
>The city was also the main center of Hellenistic Judaism at the end of the Second Temple period. As one of the cities of the pentarchy, Antioch was called "the cradle of Christianity" as a result of its longevity and the pivotal role that it played in the emergence of early Christianity.[5] The Christian New Testament asserts that the name "Christian" first emerged in Antioch.[6]
Once in Rome they used leftist subversive tactics to spread it, staging all manner of stunts and riots to pressure the Roman authorities to give their cult more power.
>Some early Christians sought out and welcomed martyrdom. Roman authorities tried hard to avoid Christians because they "goaded, chided, belittled and insulted the crowds until they demanded their death." According to Droge and Tabor, "in 185 the proconsul of Asia, Arrius Antoninus, was approached by a group of Christians demanding to be executed. The proconsul obliged some of them and then sent the rest away, saying that if they wanted to kill themselves there was plenty of rope available or cliffs they could jump off."[12]
Once they got more power, they went full Communist and purged Europe of our native culture. In Northern Europe they literally did crusades against relatively isolated countries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjVXNm7ByMQ

It's disgusting what happened, but it's not too late to burn all churches and destroy every evidence of Chrsitianity and sent all the cultists back to the Middle East, including the new ones that have arrived in recent decades.

If Europe doesn't do it we will not only be culturally Middle Eastern but demographically as well.

>>510446420
This fuckin christ jew trying to pretend the thread wasn't about christ golemry being used specifically to attack Whites. Then he tries to pretend they arent related issues.
This is what christ niggers are: lying anti White pseudo-semites

>>510443575
>Jesus had a sense of humor and also spoke nuanced words/parabels
What a fucking fedora, acting like a snarky redditor and shit.

>>510445549
>>510445846
its empty anti christian hate with no substance.
no "pagan" practices paganism, they just hate christ. there are no bigger hypocrites.

>>510446533
Because pagans lived in peace and harmony?

>>510446504
Christians much like trannies groomed little kids into their ideology. They knew they could not convert the conservative Romans but they could brainwash the next generation that would replace the previous generation.

>>510446457
Why didnt your magical jew return when he said he would? Pagans understood symbolism, unlike your faggy kike cult

>>510446457
>Where da Olympians at bro?
It do be like dat.

>>510446190
>Yes, and
WTF you retard!
You started this argument by talking about your schizo hypothetical with some majority your shringing numbers debunk your nonsesne.

Why are you so triggered about the fact that your religion is dying out? Liek WTF?!
>below replacement rate births means
So is the entire white race!

>>510446596
>O-o-oy vey!
>Why arent pagans choir boys like the castrated boys christ golem priests rape up the asshole?

>>510446598
Greek pagans did not consider Christians/Jews to be one of the learned nations.

>>510446635
Either a spic or jeet made this left wing meme, look at the grammar.

>>510446504
Christians to this day donate money to the Jews, just like in Roman times.

>>510446609
>Pagans understood symbolism
It was real in their minds! It's just symbolic! What a religion.

>>510446648
Nah you're stupid as fuck. Don't strain your pitiful little mind.

>>510446671
Don't talk about boyrape as a fagan. Fagans were the champions of it.

>>510446671
https://www.walksinsiderome.com/blog/the-scandalous-private-life-of-tiberius-caesar/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporus

>>510446727
See, he literally can't conceive of a concept like symbolism. His mind can only think of sucking bloody dicks lime his jewish genie, yahoo

>>510446504
>pic
Lies.

>>510446369
>Pascal didn't assume
*Gets stabbed by a nigger*
> but taken them directly from Christianity, as
*Wife raped by a nigger*

>Christianity as a religion
*children raped*
*home burned down*

See how silly you are?!

>Projecting dutchcuck issues.
Oh so no response after I highlighted that EPISTEMOLOGLY your literal cosmic autism about infinities or the "meaning of IS" or whatever hot crap of bullshit your can dig out of the joke that is chrisitan and western philosophy is literally meaningless?!

>>510446727
Jesus was a boy rapist you retard LMFAO

>>510446720
Doesn't mean they're wrong. It's all about the noticing.

>>510446866
Fagan imagination, everyone.

>>510446763
HE LITERALLY LINKED A JEW HAHAHAHAHA

>>510446895
>Quote his own Jewish writings
>I-i-its imaginary, goyim!

Christians gave Jews a monopoly on usury and therefore banking. Mortgage/loans are still the same Jewish usury from before, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Sure, they try to muddy the waters with man-made definitions, but Jewish power is still based on usury and the collective Christian slave caste.

You don't see Jewish bankers ruling over China or their religion because it was mostly based on ancestor worship. Why would a Chinaman worship a Jew if they have their own ancestors to worship? It makes no sense to the Chinaman, why would it make sense to a European?

>>510446934
You can find that about Tiberius anywhere, retard.

>>510446988
Nothing in that chapter even suggests anything like that. You just like boyrape like a real fagan.

>>510447040
>Jesus being caught with little boys naked at 4 am isnt evidence of his raping boys
Kek, jew worshippers get the rope

>>510447087
Nice going being an epic retard. You really convinced me. Bye bye now!

>>510447156
Run, christ nigger, go suck some nigger feet

>>510447174
Stop projecting your desires already.

>>510446850
Rome was shameful and disgusting? Sure, like every city today. Where do leftists congregate? In big cities. That's where Christianity comes from. It looked down on the countryside, i.e. pagans. It's another similarity with leftists who look down on white hicks from flyover states.

Who did Christians first convert in Northern Europe? Not the ordinary people. They formed globalist unions between kings and then used state power to stamp out the people's will.

>>510447201
>Thank you for these nigger feet rabbi yeshua
>SLUUUURP

>>510447296
You must be real jealous of Bergoglio here. Now go back to blackedposting.

>>510447351
>Christ nigger projects his religion onto others
HAHAHAHAHA

>>510447397
Mutt's law is eternal.

>>510447427
Is that not the pope sucking nigger toes?

>>510447459
It is. He's strange and shameless, but an honorary American. He is from LATAM, after all.

>>510447532
Ok, just making sure your pontifex maximus, the head of your jew worship cult is in his official capacity as head jew worshipper, sucking nigger feet. Glad ee agree your kike religion sucks nigger feet, faggot

>>510447647
kek, touche. Made us look stupid.

>>510447703
Yeah you worship an imaginary dead jew. Its pretty fucking ridiculous

>>510447766
But why don't you argue from an atheist position? You sure as hell won't defend faganism because you know you can't. Why cope?

>>510447766
you help the kikes deny christ, cant think of anything more lowly and non white

>>510447801
My only goal is the eradication of abrahamism and all jewry

>>510447820
Who cares? All your semitic jewish fairy tales are equally fake, gay, and jewish.

>>510447862
And when you fail? How will you cope?

>>510447907
Lmfao it can't fail. Jewish fsiry tales can't withstand scrutiny

>>510447967
Two more weeks?

>>510446369
Who do you think that the Pascal's wager is for nigger?
You think it's for the christians (who already believe in the christian god)?
No, it's a rational argument for the secular people.
The only way Pascal's wager makes sense is if you concede the presupposition but the only reason to do that is if you're already a christian anyway. That's why it's retarded. There are plenty of much better arguments for your god than that one.

>>510448024
Lol all the time in the universe will never make your jew worship cult true

>>510448105
So it's not arbitrary?

>>510448133
How will you eradicate them? Oh, yeah. You won't. Just seethe until you die.

>>510448307
Yeah its already dying because fairy tales arent real lmfao

>>510448402
>muh bongland
Gonna be Muslim instead.

>>510448438
Kek, no surprise 70iq sand niggers still follow a sand nogger religion. Whats your excuse?

>>510441506
Shut the fuck up Turk.
Aryans are ancient bringers of civilization.
We have nothing to do with your (((rat))) holes of Judea.

>>510448483
But white people are going extinct too, right? Is it because they're a meme people?

>>510448543
There are more Whites now than ever in history. Im extremely thrilled that the White genepool is being cleaned of undesirables like you. Jew worshippers, faggots, trannies, leftists, and race mixers are all self selecting out of the White genepool. This is a massive win for Whites .
Meanwhile your cult is just niggers