Thread 510439674

>>510439674 (OP)
equality doesnt exist so idc what else he has to say, next

>>510439674 (OP)
How can you refute the Bible when you haven't read it

>>510439923
good thing Marx exposed equality as a bourgeois smokescreen

>>510439674 (OP)
It never needed more than the realisation that it's a jewish universalism that aims to re-educate people away from racial consciousness to class consciousness.

>>510439674 (OP)
Its based on the presupposition that all people are equal so on its automatically wrong

>>510440068
>Its based on the presupposition that all people are equal
Are you sure?

>>510439674 (OP)
>how can you refute pi=4 when you haven’t read schizophrenic rambling websites?
Shut the fuck up and kill yourself

Prima facie

>>510440008
I dont know what you mean but youre clearly the more clever one here, IDC about that junk its as thick as the bible and im not going to read it

>>510439674 (OP)
History shows it's fruits

This is LITERALLY all you need to refute communism. Just straightforward extrapolation of easily observable human behaviour.

>>510439674 (OP)
Most people don't understand that Marxism is descriptive and predictive, not necessarily prescriptive.
It describes the state of society and the direction society will continue to go under the capitalist classes. It doesn't offer hard-set *solutions*, but rather simply points out that it would be better for the working classes if the working classes were in control of the apparatus of the State and wielded it in its own favor instead of leaving it in the hands of the elite wealthy class. The solution to some problems might involve command economy while others require regulated markets - regulated, because at the end of the day they need to serve society as a whole instead of those who would profit like parasites over it.
The bourgeoisie aren't "better" rulers than a government run by our own representatives taken from among us would be. They still oppress us and are responsible for the economic woes in our lives, and they're more than happy to bring out the guns just like any "Communist dictatorship" would would backed against a wall. That they haven't in our own society is because we've never challenged their rule.

>>510442239
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>>510439674 (OP)
Easy. There are niggers, jews and women that like his garbage. Thus it’s an idea that can be discarded.

>>510443630
It doesn't though. And I've read the book.
What it refutes are economic policies that have been implemented by socialists.
The mistake many make is in thinking that socialism is a set of economic policies. It's not. What socialism is is ownership of the economy by the working classes, fullstop. The problem historically has been that, after gaining control of the economy, the working classes found themselves in uncharted territory and didn't know what to do with it. So they used command economies, which are good for solving some of society's needs (up to a point) until they reach a level of inefficiency, after which they fail miserably.
But again, the point isn't government control over society. It's ideally worker control over the government, which extends that control over the economy. You could have a socialist-controlled market system and it would still be socialism so long as the working classes were, in fact, the ones calling the shots. And socialism is not a complete repudiation of capitalism; it has historically seen itself as a following stage built upon capitalism, not an alternative. In many places, that means that when socialism takes over, capitalist ways of doing things would remain but be regulated in ways so that the wealthy classes don't get to hog the bulk of the benefits for themselves.

>>510444360

Uncle Ted tried to warn us

>>510439674 (OP)
How can you argue for Marxism when you haven’t read anything?