Thread 510442882

Trekkie /pol/tards what happened to you to turn you into a Nazi?
Star Trek was always about peace, tolerance, inclusion, cultural relativism and interracial romance.

>>510442882 (OP)
blvked

>>510442882 (OP)
I was okay with all those things most of the time. except interracial romance. Then I realized that the nazis could do all of those things without the interracial romance. <3

>>510442882 (OP)
Have you noticed that there are no jews on the enterprise?

>>510443809
And no...vulkans are not jew and shatner and nimoy are not playing jews.

star trek was only really heavy handed on a few episodes, most were pretty fair in thier exploration of moral and social issues and left the implications open to interpretation. also its core is a military vessel so obviously fascism fits in, the obviously aren't assigning dei do nothing niggers to the bridge crew.

>>510442882 (OP)
there is a difference between fiction and reality OP
star trek is a fictional show written by a large amount of people

>>510442882 (OP)
I'm convinced Next Generation is why gen x nerds were so fucking gay and fucked up the entire world instantly.

only niggers watched DS9. and Voyager was all about putting women in charge and robots with tits. I think the success of Picard imbued all of them with the biggest cuck behaviors.

Next Generation is communist garbage and you were weak for watching it.

>>510442882 (OP)
Yes and what happened first in star trek history? The eugenics wars

>>510442882 (OP)
"The economics of the future is somewhat different. You see, money doesn't exist in the 24th century... The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of Humanity." They finally kicked the jews off of earth and they resettled in Ferenginar and the booted all the shitskins that behave like niggers to Qo'noS.

Star Trek is benevolent imperialism.
>the galaxy is scary and you're small and unprotected
>behave exactly as we want you to and we'll let you join our protectorate ranks
>nice dilithium mines you got there
The idea that it's space communism is only because of that TNG "no money" thing.

>>510442882 (OP)
/pol/ is a Stargate board.

>>510442882 (OP)
>Christcucks what happened to you to turn you into a Nazi?
>Jesus was always about peace, tolerance, inclusion, cultural relativism and interracial romance.
One jewish story is as good as another.

>>510444551
Man makes some good points.

>>510443809
Get a load of this retard. :DD

>>510442882 (OP)
Mirror Worlds where always my favorite episodes.

you violated the prime directive and now cry?

Meanwhile on Babylon 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hg_TRynRIs
It's worth noting that in Dune, Jews still exist 20,000 years in the future.

>>510442882 (OP)
Star Trek's commie system only works when there is no food scarcity and everyone is armed

>>510445193
Negative, ghostrider, this is an Expanse board
Beltas only

Zelenskyy, his sails unfurled
Biden, his childrens faces wet
Trump, his arms wide
Putin, his army with fists closed

>>510442882 (OP)
>you are a nazi!
You don't even know any of our names, how would you know what people believe in?
It's so tiresome seeing memeflags and other retards show up here, declare what /pol/ (which is one guy apparently) thinks, then attack using that vector.
Over and over and over and over and over and over again, day after day month after month year after year.

Anyway Star Trek is nice but the real future won't be so clean and tidy, sadly. I often wonder about the feasibility of replicator and transporter tech, on a technical level how do you rearrange subatomic particles?

>>510446315
Babylon 5 is what turned me into a full-blown Nazi. Starship Troopers had cool visuals, but this shit made
>muh rise of the far right
the premise of the show. Sometime in the 2010s I realized that if this was actually the case, we'd have the 4th Reich by now. And B5 wasn't even written by kikes. :D

>>510445908
DS9 is like a Rorschach test. You could make a case for Dominion, Cardassians and Bajorans each being the Jews in some respect.

>>510442882 (OP)
Star Trek is about a civilization of wealthy survivors playing with fancy toys and exploring space after all the poors were made to kill each other.

>>510443809
Ferengi were present within the setting. The point of why the show worked is because they were called ferengi, and their status as another species came with lower expectation they would function like people.
Thus, the setting worked.

>>510442882 (OP)
Traveling to different countries.

>>510445929
Jewish "blessing" hand sign

>>510442882 (OP)
>Star Trek was always about peace, tolerance, inclusion, cultural relativism and interracial romance.
And of course having to defend those ideas by lobbing nukes using your FTL capable science battleship megayacht

>>510442882 (OP)
Shitty threads like this

>>510445006
the creator was a super lefty. theres a reason the later shows say inpired by him even when he was still alive.
he had great ideas but was shit at actually putting them together to enterain people for 45 minutes

>>510446315
God season 1 was wank, always glad they stuck Sheridan's actor in the loony bin

The Klingons are the Russians. The Undiscovered Country is about the Cold War.

>>510442882 (OP)
Kike are not allowed in federation.

>>510447338
*Chinks

>>510447013
hell yeah

>>510442882 (OP)
My wife is Trek, I am 40K, I always been about that fascism.

>>510447338
"In space, all warriors are cold warriors!"

>>510447454
definitely Russians. the entire premise of the movie is the collapse of the Klingon Empire because of some space Chernobyl

>>510445908
saved, too true

>>510447657
It's not Star Trek. Star Trek died with Tuvix.

>>510442882 (OP)
TTD

>>510448259
Picard is a shit show that perverted the idea of Star Trek but the Enterprise D is still the best looking ship in all fiction.

>>510442882 (OP)
Star Trek was written before the holocaust fanfic was written.

>>510448259
Yeah, Janeway should have only saved Tuvok and transported the Neelix part of it into the cold vacuum of space.

>>510448472
I like neelix, he was a pedo, I thought it was pretty slick how they slipped that in with nearly zero backlash. there was even an episode where Janeway thought kes was going through puberty, even if it wasn't puberty in the in universe explanation, in Janeways mind, kes was a prepubescent alien girl she was letting neelix molest on her ship.

I love other races so long as I’m not forced to be around them

>>510448472
One of the best Voyagers episodes was this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OEtZAlD0TE

Kneelicks represents the liberal lefty making excuses criminals, assuming they must just be persecuted.
Neelix ends up being kidnapped and tortured by the violent criminal alien scum.

>>510442882 (OP)
>what happened to you to turn you into a Nazi?
Other people's behavior.

>>510448572
And another Voyager ep was two Ferengi from TNG that got expelled the the Delta quadrant, crash landed on an alien world and enslaved the local people by pretending to be gods.

>>510449155
I got you

>>510448896
Living Witness is another great episode, where historical revisionism and local politics warp the true story of Voyager encountering a world into something brutal and militaristic, remembered in a local holocaust museum.
Then they activate a copy of the Doctor, stored there for the many decades it's been since Voyager was there, and he sets them straight on history before taking off for the Alpha quadrant.

>>510442882 (OP)
9/11 making no sense + Iraq war bamboozling
searching to find out why culminating with constant noticing
None of this has much to do with star trek TNG but its a somewhat nostalgic show to me.
Star Trek has always been liberalism in space; probably moreso than most television.
It's just an interesting case study on the amount of subversion palatable to audiences in the period but by contrast to todays entertainment the underpinning normal would draw kvetching from a Disney exec.

We have our our white male trio in charge: Picard, Riker, & Autism.
The recurring women are in caregiver position and bring emotional levity to the plot.
The two house negros are either a sexless nerd
or the security guard that turns his threatening aspects on your enemies and bites his tongue whenever his superior calls out his foolishness
Sometimes an alien lady shows up and wants to sex a self-insert
Ok sometimes there's like a woman or a black that's an admiral but that's far away and non in my home... I mean on my ship

This is how non-whites being injected into into white society was packaged and sold in the 90s. Its worth noting the amount of traditionalist framing that fills the backdrop but I'm done writing.

People always wonder what Neelix is doing on Voyager, is he the cook, the moral-officer, the comic-relief? What is he doing joining the senior officers during debriefing? Is Janeway insane?

Nope, Neelix is basically the logistics-officer.... basically the ship is understaffed and anyone with any kind of engineering or scientific know-how is needed to actually run the ship, suddenly this weird alien appears with years of trading and storage experience and Janeway just puts him to work organizing and cataloguing, simple, boring with also incredibly useful work.

Voyagers buys spare parts and it's up to Neelix to describe, barcode and input it into the system. Food? Well he is also the cook, so let's put him in charge of that. How much raw materials does Voyager have of that or this exotic metal? Neelix has already done the work.

Neelix is basically the foreman at your local warehouse, it's simple work but highly essential. All his other jobs like cook, moral-officer, diplomat etc just grow out of that function.

>>510451204
He's kind of a jack-of-all-trades, though I wish they'd kept up the plot point of rationing replicator matter by supplementing grown or gathered foods from away trips.

>>510451552
Nope, look at it this way, you are Voyager, you regularly trade with other alien races, you have thousands of objects as well as stuff voyager brought from the alpha quadrant, how do you make sure everything can easily be found?

You need to catalogue everything manually, what is the objects function, what materials is it made, where was it bought, in which crate is it kept, etc \

Someone has to do that and thats basically Neelix's main job.

>>510445908
The theory I've had about DS9 is that the major factions all explore different aspects of Jewishness.

The Ferengi are the obvious stereotypical greedy merchants that cheat and swindle you in the name of profit (btw look it up, every single major Ferengi character was played by a jew)
They also deal in gambling and pornography (those holosuites weren't just for racketball).

The humans are liberal progressive idealists. A multispecies collective of equals, where it doesn't matter if you're a man or woman, white black or green.

The Bajorans are them as the rebellious oppressed.
No longer the victims but brave victors over their oppressors, now free to practice their religion in their reconquered arid desert land.

The bloody Cardies are the Israelis, expanding their lands against agreed treaties; enslaving, displacing, genociding those who were in the way.
They have a secret police force that spies on enemies within and without, discrediting and assassinating the troublemakers.


The Founders are as the pic says, all aspects amalgamated together.

>>510442882 (OP)
It became increasingly apparent that humanity could not reach what star trek presented. The main idea of trek was that man's innovations and technology would free them from the problems caused, at least what I had been taught, by resource inequalities, lack of access to info, that sort of thing.
Nope seems like the problems are baked in and most of the people are retarded no matter what you give them to uplift themselves.
Nope, instead it seems like we're heading right for cyberpunk 2077 or some other cyberpunk dystopian hellhole reality.

>>510442882 (OP)
>Star Trek was always about peace, tolerance, inclusion, cultural relativism and interracial romance.


People realized it was always jewish fairytales and lies.

>>510451847
He also cooked.

>>510442882 (OP)
1. star trek has teleporter technology
2. star trek has replicator technology
use 1. to get away from ghetto ass niggers and the likes, 2. solves all materialistic desires so they can replicate as much gold teeth or whatever they desire, this theoretically SHOULD solve the need for 1. but its safe to use teleporters for personal travel so thaeres that.

Not in the current timeline but the future,maybe, but that also was achieved with a healthy dose of phasers and photon torpedoes...

>>510452674
One thing you realize is you carefully watch the silver and golden age shows is that the Federation does in fact practice genetic engineering, you don't think so?

When Star Trek mentions Eugenics, they don't mean genetic engineering per see, neither do they mean selective breeding, in the Star Trek universe Eugenics seems to mean improving a being by using genes not found in the species, like the augments being improved way beyond the human baseline.

It does not mean using genetic engineering to remove flaws in the genetic code, see the two episodes where Barkley has a gene turned on that prevents his body from fighting a disease or the genetic treatment given to B'lanna's and Tom's child to correct a spinal deformity.

So the Federation allows genetic engineering to remove or edit flaws from the genetic code of a person, now here it gets interesting, most people have some genetic flaws compared to the average baseline human.

So you lack a proper gene to synthesis vitamin D or for the uptake of magnesium, perhaps you miss a pair of genes used to build your brain etc these all get repaired.

The reason the Star Trek universe works, is because every human sees his genetic flaws removed, towards and average baseline of human and now the kicker, that baseline slowly shifts further and further away with every generation, so what was the baseline a century ago, no longer is.

First genetic diseases, then minor immune disorders, then the genes for mathematical intelligence, etc eventually you get a pure human stock, that is way, way above the average baseline humans of the 20th century.

>>510442882 (OP)
>visit pristine, happy world
>outsiders break their laws
>sentenced to death
>sorry, sorry, we're leaving and won't come back
>everybody happy again, including their God
I dunno. That episode seemed pretty based to me.

>>510453380
Some more theories on augments, why is Kahn in TOS such an emotional bitch? Superior intelligence, but he overestimates himself, is highly self-centered and emotional all the time, how could this be?

Simple, his body is muscular and strong to a high degree, meaning his body produces a lot of testosterone, what does the body do to excess testosterone? It turns it into estrogen....

Basically Kahn was behaving like a woman.

>>510442882 (OP)
DS9

>>510442882 (OP)
The black people in star treck are not criminals. There are no muslims.

It was fiction.

>>510444319
I never understood why the f*** They called Star Trek communism because it's not. It's a mix of multiple different ideologies and economic systems. One fact they still use money actually pay people with money. They don't use it eternally within the federation. But they do use money to trade with other civilizations. They preach about self, Reliance, respect and taking responsibility for your actions and improving humanity. It's never about f****** communism.

>>510442882 (OP)
Because star trek along with most modern Sci-fi Fi went to absolute shit over the past decade to the point where I can confidently say I know webcomics that do a better job with those concepts

>>510453240
don't forget section 31 genetically engineering bio weapons and genociding their enemies behind the scenes. they had their hands in both the Klingon augmentes in ent and the founders in ds9

>>510454077
>over the past 2 decades
ftfy

>>510454014
It's actually very likely that money is still used on earth to acquire luxury goods, the federation does use a credit system and picard's family was probably selling their wine to people on Earth, it's just that you don't need to use money if you don't want too.

>>510442882 (OP)
i never watched that dork nerd shit

>>510454336
>i never watched that dork nerd shit
wut yo wasch?

>>510454211
I was about to argue with you but, holy shit enterprise was in 2005. I thought it was from 2010

>>510454248
To be honest they probably still do. But just from what the shows have shown like Cisco's father. You eat there for free. He doesn't charge money because he loves to cook and make people happy. He's improving his civilization by making them happy and having a productive life.

>>510448803
Ocampans live to be like 9 at most, Kes is like 3 in the show. She's like 25 in people years. That doesnt make Nelix a pedo, its a totally different frame of reference. Also, it wasnt puberty, it was a once-a-lifetime heat. Again, aliens.

Also, Harry is more of a pedo, he lusted after 7of9 who got her psychological and social development arrested at assimilation when she was 11 or whatever .

>>510454420
Most people in the federation don't charge money for services because when you have a device that creates anything you want, kind of removes the need from money.

>>510451552
They do show that garden Kes ran

>>510454420
Alright, what if paying is optional? People don't have to pay, but a large chunk of the population does get payed in credits they don't really use? So, they have the option to pay whatever they want and this is usually enough to buy real food for the restaurant.

>>510451204
You forgot that he was also a guide for the first few seasons (before they passed outaside his knowledge zone and they had a whole character identity crisis episode dfor that)

>>510454573
You are probably right. I do believe if I'm not mistaking. He did mention about paying being optional. Or something like that in one of the episodes that he was in so they still could

>>510452835
And doubled as the therapist for all the fucking headcases on the crew

>>510454665
The real question is housing, I have no doubt earth gov allocates housing based on some tier system.

>>510454707
>And doubled as the therapist for all the fucking headcases on the crew
Someone needs to make Tuvok smile.

>>510454439
she had her second birthday on board which means she was one when she boarded voyager, it would make her ten at most in human adjusted years.

>>510442882 (OP)
Star Trek was a utopia with mostly highly intelligent and educated white people. What are you smoking?

>>510454761
They do Assign housing in the federation But I am not sure based on what system they use for it The only time they don't assign housing is for settlers. On new planets day they divvy up the land and you choose which one you want.

Another fun theory I came up with. How could humans maintain a military with species like Andorians, Vulcans and Klingons who are clearly better at fighting and physically stronger?

It's because the previous races are all ambush predators that evolved to wrestle their prey to the ground like Neanderthals, while humans are percussion hunters that do hit and run tactics from afar and then wait for the animal to slowly bleed out.

Basically humans have superior stamina and are better shots, making humans more effective fighters in wars.

>>510454523
I liked that, the show sort of forgets in later seasons how dire their situation is. Maybe it's just because they got more secure at surviving the Delta quadrant, but the early episodes make them seem like survivalists just trying to get by with a limited (and mistrusting) mixed crew. I'd have liked if the ship was more run-down as the show went on, limited resources being allocated only where necessary.

>look how happy everyone is
>All you have to do is achieve a post scarcity society with infinite options for how you spend your time
>Don't like it? Literally hop on a shuttle craft and leave
>Or spend your day in the holodeck
>Then use replicator machines for any of your needs
>Look how well everyone gets along when there's literally nothing at all to have conflict over
>Why not bypass the whole resource scarcity thing and just live as if it were true?

>>510455044
>Basically humans have superior stamina and are better shots, making humans more effective fighters in wars.
We evolved as persistence hunters, jog after your prey and keep forcing it to sprint away until you exhaust it. This is especially effective in a group, where one hunter can give chase while two more catch their breath.
Of course you don't need to chase down your prey and bonk it on the head if you can make a stick throw another stick.

>>510455044
It really depends because in the Star Trek universe.Humans are more seen as Natural and exquisite engineers They are known to be able to fix or Jerry rig Anything in the Star Trek universe.

>>510454439
>Harry is more of a pedo, he lusted after 7of9
it was chakote who actually went through with it, I thought it was a pretty cute romance.

>>510455053
Another fun theory I have, remember the episode where Icheb thought B'lanna was having the hots for him? He was right. B'lanna is basically the ship slut and several men had a taste of her Klingon bloodpie.

>>510442882 (OP)

TNG was a pure meritocracy - modern leftists would call it fascism if you tried to implement Captain Picard's ethics

>>510443809
>He doesn't know what a Ferengi is
>He doesn't know what a Bajorian is
>He doesn't know what Shapeshifters really are

>>510455193
>>510455227

Nope, the reason humans are out there is because humanoid types basically come into three types.

1. Herbivorous, mostly peaceful, very little conflict or incentive to explore. Most of the species in the federation.

2. Ambush predators like Klingons or Andorians, strong and fast, but they tire quickly.

3. Persistence hunters like humans, natural tool-users, restless, explorative, good at war because their higher stamina and long-ranged skills makes them more suited for modern wars.

>>510455494
>humanoid types basically come into three types
Reminder that the whole galaxy was seeded with humanoid life and all the species are (very) distantly related.
>>510455280
kek

>a hopeful vision of the future where humanity has its shit together
it makes sense to conservatives because we don`t hate humanity. utopia is achievable. modern liberals do hate humanity and so i dont see how this would resonate with them, they can only imagine a dystopia. liberalism as it was when the original trek was made was closer to conservatism today then todays modern left.

>>510446527
Trudeau, his anus stretched
Harris, her bottle empty
Newsome, his hopes buried in ashes

>>510455698
Oh, you'll love the following theory....

Why are Klingon mating rituals so violent? Well since the Klingons evolved for up close fighting and wrestling their prey to the ground, they evolved tiny little chimp dicks to limit the damage a fight would do to their genitalia.

A Klingon male literally can't get a Klingon woman to cum, unless he beats her.

This also explains everything about Klingon culture

>>510454420
>nigger doing something out of the goodness of their heart
LOL
Star Trek was always bullshit

>>510455948
B'lonna's parents must have had an interesting bedroom life.

>>510456085
Most parings between humans and klingons are basically human males with their giant dicks giving klingon woman orgasms they have never experienced before. Those two klingon woman that fucked Riker, where in for a surprise, they didn't know human dicks where that big.

>>510455948
>honor culture has lil dicks
>muh dick
You sound black

>>510456237
No it is true, klingons have tiny chimp dicks, so they constantly need to overcompensate for their smallness.

>>510442882 (OP)
Klingons and Photon torpedos
They are a gateway

>>510455903
continued...

we see it well with nu-trek. modern liberals can only write a flawed humanity in a dystopia. which is why it wasn`t well received by most trek fans who are conservative or classical liberal, who still want and believe in a positive vision for humanity.

>>510444319
still the best sci fi show
>communist garbage
mitwit spergs are the worst.

>>510454014
>>510454248
>>510454420

The Federation had wealth and disparity especially with Star Fleet command like Picard and his rich Orchid fields. You'll never hear about O'Brian owning an ancient castle in the meadow or some red shirt having 3 condos. The federation deals in Credits which isn't transferable to latinum. Why would a "post scarce" society still need a form of currency?

The Federation is purely imperialism which was topical all throughout DS9 especially when dealing with the Marquis who proved if you try to live independently of the Federation they will strong-arm you. The federation wants people to join so they can "trade" for "free" resources into a greater collective.

>>510442882 (OP)
>Now I'm not saying all Trekkies are pedophiles but every pedophile we've arrested has been a Trekkie

>>510456812
>Picard and his rich Orchid fields.
Picards ancestors where aristocrats who held on to their estates and passed them down to their descendants.

>>510454931
>it would make her ten at most in human adjusted years
I wonder if that's how pedo's really think.

>>510457402
come now, the math isn't hard, she spent an entire season on board as a one year old, if the average human lives to be 73 as a life expectancy , 73 = 9x therefore x = 73/9. so 1 year old ocampan is equal to an 8 year old human. but she wasn't picked up on exactly her 1st bday so it was probably closer to ten. her second birthday would be equal to a girls 16th birthday.

>>510456310
Klingons actually have a second, redundant dick. They're natural shocker troops.

>>510456960
Yes. That means your average red/yellow won't ever have them and live in some pod.

>>510457957
>Klingons actually have a second, redundant dick.
Also smol

>>510448572
20th century Earth Jews did not know honor

>>510454399
Ended in 2005, started in 2001.

>>510442882 (OP)
Read Peter "Overmaster of Y'All" Thiel's book Zero to One, something like:
>in our group of friends? or in the PayPal mafia, we loved capitalist Star Wars and hated communist Star Trek

I understand that there were many hot female characters, but I see almost no pictures of them in this thread. When do you start posting them?

>>510446362
GAS THE BELTERS, SPACE WAR NOW

>>510446256
>Scully's dad dies of heart attack in Xfiles
>Hammond dies of heart attack in Stargate
>actor dies of heart attack IRL
pottery

>>510458836
That actor basically looks like someone who would die from a heart attack, so yes makes sense.

>>510448259
>>510448387
Do you happen to have the Janeway Pepe kind sirs?

>>510442882 (OP)
Who the fuck base their life on tv show you're an idiot

>>510442882 (OP)
Watching stupid tv shows isn't gonna give me this Hallow cheeks

>>510445193
/pol/ is a Firefly board. Murdoch Murdoch is also /pol/ approved. I miss those goys.

>>510442882 (OP)
you get all those things still, but only if whites are the dominant fascists.

Infinite diversity in infinite combinations

>>510461587
infinigolem

>>510442882 (OP)
The Cardassians did nothing wrong.

>>510442882 (OP)
Star Trek?
I think you got the wrong board mate

>>510442882 (OP)

The dream of liberalism is coming to an end. People are waking up. Even star Trek gave up on the utopia bullshit when DS9 came along.

>>510456379
>who still want and believe in a positive vision for humanity.
Imagine being that naive.

>>510462145
the vast majority of our problems are caused by systems that elevate a minority of the worst people. imagine being so naive you didn`t realize this. its a fixable problem, not in my lifetime, but its possible we could fix it one day.

>>510447301
He wasn't "Sheridan" in season 1, he was Jeffrey Sinclair, a completely different person

>>510462500
Unironically the fix is in the book "God Empeor of Dune" but you won't like it.