Thread 510457271

christcucksisters… how do we respond without sounding mad?

>>510457271 (OP)
Based meme.
Christniggers will seethe

>>510457271 (OP)
turn the other buttcheek of course

>>510457389
>>510457271 (OP)
Based, only by ridding ourselves from the jewish mind virus, can the White Man take his divinely given role as head of Earth

>>510457271 (OP)
christgolems have always served jews.
Tacitus, Histories, Book 5
>For the worst rascals among other peoples, renouncing their ancestral religions, always kept sending tribute and contributions to Jerusalem, thereby increasing the wealth of the jews

After the jerusalem council, saul was asked by james, cephas, and john to remember the poor which he was eager to do.
Galatians 2:9-10
>And recognizing the grace that I had been given, James, Cephas, and John—those reputed to be pillars—gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, so that we should go to the gentiles (ἔθνη/goyim), and they to the circumcision (jews). They only asked us to remember the poor, the very thing I was eager to do.

What does "remember the poor" actually mean? And why was saul eager to "remember the poor"?
Romans 15:25-27
>But now I am going to Jerusalem, ministering to the saints. For Macedonia and Achaia were pleased to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints in Jerusalem.
Yes, saul was instructed by james and the apostles to collect contributions from christgolems for the poor among the saints in jerusalem.
>For they were pleased, and they are debtors of them. For if the gentiles (ἔθνη/goyim) have shared in their spiritual things, they ought also to minister to them in the material things.
What is saul's reasoning for collecting contributions from christgolems? According to saul, christgolems are debtors that owe material things to the saints in jerusalem.
Why are christgolems debtors to the saints in jerusalem? According to saul, christgolems are debtors because they shared in the spiritual things of the saints in the jerusalem.
What are the spiritual things that christgolems shared in?
John 4:22
>You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is of the jews.
1/2

>women
>jews
>christcucks

All the same

>>510457698
The following is an example of the amount and frequency of the contributions that saul collected from christgolems:
1 Corinthians 16:1-4
>Now about the collection for the saints, you are to do as I directed the churches of Galatia: On the first day of every week, each of you should set aside a portion of his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will be needed. Then, on my arrival, I will send letters with those you recommend to carry your gift to Jerusalem. And if it is advisable for me to go also, they can travel with me.

Are the contributions from christgolems (((prophesied)))? Yes.
Isaiah 61:6
>But you will be called the priests of yahweh; they will speak of you as servants of our god; you will eat the wealth of the goyim, and you will boast in their riches.
See: https://biblehub.com/text/isaiah/61-6.htm

See:
ἔθνος- https://biblehub.com/greek/1484.htm
>Corresponding Greek / Hebrew Entries: - H1471 גּוֹי (goy)
2/2

>>510457271 (OP)
>oy vey akshully we created the religion we hate so that you would conquer the entire world and then 2000 years later you would abandon it and we could take over!1111
Holy fuck Chaim, get a better script.

>>510457779
You worship the elohim of israel, retard.

>>510457271 (OP)
the platonics dictated church policy so sternly the empire schismed

>>510457271 (OP)
Why do Jews hate Christianity?

The Romans allowed their sex trafficking.

>>510457271 (OP)
the Christian worldview doesn't glorify weakness, it redefines strength.
in Christianity, humility sacrifice and dependence on God aren't signs of fragility, but of spiritual courage and moral clarity.
Christ's crucifixion is not a defeat, but a triumph over sin and death.
to call that "worshiping weakness" misses the point entirely.
Christianity utterly crushed the worldviews that exalted pride and brute power as ultimate virtues.

>>510457271 (OP)
You are actually retarded if you think a bronze aged kingdom had more propagangic power than even the hapsburg dynasty

>>510457389
lmao, this retarded jewish OP couldn't wait to VPNsamefag.

The answer is easy - Christianity predates Judaism by many decades, if not centuries. jews were practicing Talmudic Rabbinicism and then eventually got their shit pushed in by the Babylonians, at which point they were captured and forced into Babylonian culture, where they stole all the polytheistic gods and pretended like Talmudic Rabbinicism came up with them.

When nobody believed them, because they came back as the Pharisees and Jesus said 'these guys are mondo faggots, why are you listening to them; also they wear fucking supercloaks in the desert, what is this shit', they threw a fit and began to steal from Christianity. Thus, Christianity worked to create sects & offshoots to keep the proto-kikes off everyone's back.

One of the biggest jewish psy-ops is convincing midwits that God wanted them to share with jews, i.e. through the defiling of Christian scriptures. They know this is true because they cannot explain away the 'Synagogue of Satan', which could only exist if Christianity was established first, because how else would the jews come up with a singular god when they lived in societies that always believe in multiple gods?

TL;DR: Be correctly Christian and never go to 'church', because church is a renaming of the Talmudic temple, where they performed stupid rituals to sate their prion madness (now know as Tay Sachs). Jesus talked to people and built houses when he wasn't performing miracles. You don't need a 'church' to do this. Cathedrals are the only acceptable places of Christian gathering and worship, outside of a gallows stand to watch Luciferians hang. Stay mad you kikes can't break Christianity after six millennia and more.

Glad to see most on here are rightfully bashing christkikes
It's literally just Judaism with a few extra steps

>>510457271 (OP)
It's already over OP. Only spics defend saulstianity around here, because they want to avoid what's coming to them. All Aryans are now atheists or Pagan.

>>510457271 (OP)

the english already did - it was called leaving the catholic church - then the USA let irish catholics off the boat and the rest is history

>>510458433
>frenchman threatening me
ooo scary

>>510458424
after saturday comes sunday

>>510458957
Predicting events isn't a threat, and you realize you just confessed to being a spic?

>>510459028
i'm brown haired and blue eyed, but feel free to imagine me as a nigger or a frog all you like and present your best arguments, is what i'd say if i didn't think i already had a lengthy pointless conversation with you in >>510370946 as kjNMEeMm yesterday.
you were a screeching histrionic irrational wreck and it was a total waste of time.

>>510459345
Ah you were that insane nigger who claims we can't say that raping babies is wrong if we don't justify it by saying "it was revealed to us by a fictional rabbi"

>>510458424
>When nobody believed them, because they came back as the Pharisees and Jesus said 'these guys are mondo faggots, why are you listening to them
>why are you listening to them
Matthew 23:2
>The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat

>>510459610
almost.
basically, atheism implies moral antirealism, atheists can't derive moral oughts from their materialist worldview, and therefore helping an old lady cross the street or raping her are morally equivalent objectively under the atheist materialist worldview.

>>510460198
>look some retarded comments by retards no one cares about
People didn't become atheists because of dawkins, they only listened to those guys to learn how to debate common saulstians. And as picrel already stated, attributing your gut instinct to a fictional jewish entity doesn't make it any more real than my gut instinct.

Your entire reasoning for what is moral or not is "god's nature" aka "yahweh said so", then you dare to deny it's an appeal to authority cult. Yahweh ordered child sacrifices and the sexual slavery of children, who is genuinely obsessed with giving people hemorrhoids and unleashed poisonous serpents and fleas and butchered millions of cattle as well for no reason. He self-describes as jealous and easily angered, by your own definition a short fused jealous alcoholic is god's nature and as such a beacon of morality.

He made his own prophet cook with shit and personally threw shit at people's faces, and he objectively set up Adam and Eve to have them disobey a nothing-burger order in terms of consequences (the only outcome of the disobeying being wounding yahweh's ego, which makes no sense since he knew it would happen already) and that somehow justifies introducing pain and suffering to billions of people.

The reason you shills argue for theism is because you rely on Aryan gut instinct about morality, because you know yahweh is a fucking evil jewish myth invented to justify all jewish atrocities and be revenge porn for inbred jews to masturbate to. You just know the ancestors of Saul were masturbating to the idea of all Egyptian first borns being killed in their sleep by yahweh.

1488 doesn't need jewish rabbinic nonsense, it opposes it in fact. You can't be pro-Aryanity and a spiritual jew, and if you're not pro-Aryanity, you deserve the rope.

>>510460880
atheism, rooted in materialism, can't ground objective morality.
if moral oughts come from gut instincts, as you claim, they're subjective. helping or harming an old lady becomes equally valid.

without a transcendent standard, your morality collapses into preference.
how do you justify moral absolutes without God?
instincts vary by person and culture, what makes yours binding?

you call theistic morality an appeal to "Yahweh said so," but that's wrong. God's nature, not arbitrary decrees ground the truth value of moral claims.
theistic morality claims goodness flows from God's eternal perfect essence, not a human-like authority.
you cite specific acts in (and not in) the biblical narrative as being evil, but by what standard can you judge them evil?
if it's your gut, you're begging the question.

your "aryan gut instinct" swaps one authority for another. why is it objectively right? it's also exclusionist, unlike the universal scope of theistic morality. you tie theism to jewish conspiracies, but my point was philosophical.

atheism lacks a basis for objective moral duties, you're borrowing from the Christian worldview to even argue morality, then denying the foundation.

>>510461791
I already explained everything in the other thread, you refuse it because you believe in jewish supremacy and egalitarianism for all goyim.

>unlike the universal scope of theistic morality
Indeed, I am not obsessed with teaching things to niggers, in fact I'd rather all non-Aryans and non-Jap be killed.

>I'm not blindly listening to yahwh, i'm blindly listening to god, who is yahweh!
How much fucking pilpul can you produce my guy? You have to be genetically jewish to spew that much bullshit.

>you tie theism to jewish conspiracies
>Loving your race is a jewish conspiracy, not the holy book of jews written only by jews

Heil Hitler, TKD. Having smiling blonde blue-eyed kids is morality, killing niggers and kikes is morality. You're an anti-Aryan jewish commie.

>>510457271 (OP)
>1000 years of military dominance later
Lmao that's a hell of a slow burn.

fork over the taxes, interest, and inflation goyim we’re building the third temple

>>510458114
Christians are more evil than Jews.

>>510462180
yeah see, total waste of time.
you have the rationality of a woman.

>>510457756
>ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles,
and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.
That is, the Gentiles will share of their riches, and those that mourn on Zion will boast in the glory of the Gentile, what is not understood? The glory is shared, common, does not mean God has cast away all of Israel, but that the blessing promised to Israel will be common to all nations, all people. The first verse in that chapter starts out with "The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek"
Jesus walked into the synagogue (Luke 4:17-19) and took a scroll and read these exact words to the people there, and they all witnessed Him as God's Messiah (chosen).
So all people are comforted, blessed, and saved in Christ.

>>510462480
>It's irrational to not believe in egalitarianism and worship a fictional rabbi invented by the real rabbi Saul to destroy the Roman Empire
Great morality btw

>>510462607
>invented
Odd thing to say, considering we have more written evidence for Jesus Christ than we do for Alexander the Great.

>>510457271 (OP)
we conquered the world after we became christian
stop viewing history through the lense of latins butthurt because we destroyed their precious decadent empire.

>>510462756
>evidence
>evidence is when jews write shit decades after the thing supposedly happened, with no one else ever writing about it
Mein neger, according to your own jewish book, yeshuah's disciples went to Rome and healed some prominent Roman people. You're telling me the Romans, who autistically copied what everyone else was doing better than them, never wrote anything about that, never made a single inquiry into jewish healing magic that could allow them to greatly increase their military capacity and medicine knowledge?

>>510462607
me:
>the atheist worldview can't ground moral oughts
french:
>uhhh Christianity is egalitarian though in my view! and that's bad according to uhhhh uhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhhhhh

you are an absolutely embarrassment.

>>510463052
Kek, utterly proving last picrel. Saulstians are simply commie prototypes, you posit as an axiom that egalitarianism is good. Also funny that you're pilpuling in the same message by pretending I'm inventing that you're egalitarian, when you hate the fact I'm NS because "it's also exclusionist". Death to all kikes and their worshipers.

>>510463236
>you posit as an axiom that egalitarianism is good
i'm a complementarian.
>frenchman threatening me again
ooo scary

>>510463002
The earliest of Paul's writings date to a decade after Jesus' crucifixion. Josephus wrote in the 70s, almost 40 years after the crucifixion. Meanwhile, Alexander was only mentioned by historians a couple hundred years after he had died.
>disciples went to Rome and healed some prominent Roman people.
When did that happen? The disciples stayed in Judaea for most of the early Christian period until of course the Romans destroyed Jerusalem, forcing them to flee to other parts of the Empire. Even then they lived in places like Antioch, Damascus, Ephesus, Corinth even, but I don't know of a single account of disciples in Rome, apart from Paul's arrest.

>>510457271 (OP)
>how do we respond
By using scientifically gathered demographic political data to completely annihilate this Adam Green delusional takes

Respond to pic related without sounding like a coping shit skin fedora tipper and remember, there is always more where this came from :)

If you died tonight, want to find out for certain if you'll be in heaven or hell? Can you spare 2 minutes?
https://youtu.be/6lzaPqKf2zs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc
Jesus Christ is God who died, was buried and resurrected to save you from hell. Do you want His blood to wash away your sin permanently, making you righteous to God? Nothing else can save you no matter what, and it's your choice to accept or refuse this gift. God is ready to forgive you but waits for your answer, so decide now before it's too late.

Rom 5:9 "Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."

>>510457271 (OP)
I don't listen to random AIslop, sorry

>>510461791
>atheism, rooted in materialism, can't ground objective morality
Atheism has nothing to do with morality. It's just an opinion about a question.

I have grounded morality despite being an atheist

>>510464372
It's pointless to argue with saulstians. They define morality as obeying yahweh, and if you don't do that it's not "true, objective, grounded morality". And arguing that it's atheism is already fake and gay like all jew worshipers, it's a-yahwehism. Yahweh is an evil jewish monster who describes himself as jealous and easily angered in his own fucking book. And saulstians worship THAT.

>>510464372
while atheism doesn't directly address morality, it implicitly denies the existence of an ontological source for objective moral values.
>I have grounded morality despite being an atheist
i'd like to hear more, go on.

>>510464372
What is your morality grounded on? Personal feelings?

>>510464705
>ontological source for objective moral values.
You mean your personal feelings and opinions
>>510464705
>>I have grounded morality despite being an atheist
>i'd like to hear more, go on.
My morality is based around genuine empathy and it's grounded by the effects and affects it has on those around me and our ability to leave peacefully with each other

>>510464882
See >>510464912
>My morality is based around genuine empathy and it's grounded by the effects and affects it has on those around me and our ability to leave peacefully with each other

>>510457271 (OP)
>Imma post it again!
Ffs OP. Herbs.

>>510457271 (OP)
>Same image same talking points every single fucking day
I'VE PLAYED THESE GAMES BEFORE

but no seriously do kikes think pissing into a sea of piss is how theyll wear down 4chan and crack consensus? Lol, lmao even.

At least dont make it so obvious by spamming your new meme images in phases
Such organic much consensus

>>510464912
o hi ghost of mesa.
>You mean your personal feelings and opinions
if you're going to do this solipsism thing (reality is perceived through subjective minds, therefore everything is subjective) i'm not going to play with you.
>My morality is based around genuine empathy and it's grounded by the effects and affects it has on those around me and our ability to leave peacefully with each other
that's nice but it's not objectively grounded.
a psychopathic cannibal's moral compass would be just as valid, objectively, as you're just pointing to your own preference of peace rather than tasty human meat.

Tips my fedora and menorah to you kind sirs!

LOL

>>510464955
Genuine empathy is an emotional response, much like love, hatred, anger, desire. How did such qualities arise in a being that, according to a creator-less worldview, exists only to survive? Empathy isn't always advantageous, is it? Many people die helping others. I would say sacrifice is illogical and insane in a purely godless worldview.

>>510465386
>if you're going to do this solipsism thing
It's not solipsism. It's true. You personally feel your favorite flavor of god is what gives you moral directives. Yes or no?

>>510465386
>that's nice but it's not objectively grounded
It is, read again
>>510464912
>it's grounded by the effects and affects it has on those around me and our ability to leave peacefully with each other
The outcomes show I leave more cohesive and peaceful. That's objective

>>510465536
Why would the creator be a sadistic jewish entity obsessed with feces? Stop defending yahweh with theism, theism doesn't prove saulstianity in any way. None of you jew worshiper niggers ever address that. What in the bible, entirely written by jews, proves it could only come from a God? Nothing, it's shitty jewish texts written by shitty jews.

>>510465536
>Genuine empathy is an emotional response
Its also an action and train of thought. It requires one to out their personal shit aside to genuinely help someone.

You've never ridden public transportation nor worked in customer service nor volunteered to feed and shelter homeless

>>510457271 (OP)
The truth is more complicated than that. The catholic church might be the most evil organization in human history, but you can't say that they and jews always worked together.
The jews were collecting money from the peasants an giving it to the church. This was convenient to the church because jews were the perfect scapegoats.

>>510457271 (OP)
>posts generic argument on why Jesus isn't God.
>If God exist, why bad thing happen.
>Rabbi Yeshua bin Yosef.
>Yahweh horse head carving.
>Kike on a stick.
>Sky daddy haha.
>Out of context, incomplete Bible verse.
>You must hate Christ because Christ is a Jew.
>Judean and Judaism are the same thing.
>I hate Jews even though I parrot talmudic talking points word for word.
>Hail Odin.
>No Odin didn't drink cum that's a talmudic talking point, only I am allowed to use those.
>Christ was brown look at the research that Israeli archeologists did.
>Christianity is controlled opposition for goy golems
christcuckery is the trojan horse the jews use to subvert our country. it has to go.
>Imagine where the white race would be if it hadn't been held back by christcuckery.

>>510457271 (OP)
Imagine the world we'd live in if white still honored strength instead of jewish theology.

Stay awake to the brood of vipers

For, tell me, is not the dwelling place of demons a place of impiety even if no god's statue stands there? Here the slayers of Christ gather together, here the cross is driven out, here God is blasphemed, here the Father is ignored, here the Son is outraged, here the grace of the Spirit is rejected. Does not greater harm come from this place since the Jews themselves are demons? In the pagan temple the impiety is naked and obvious; it would not be ease to deceive a man of sound and prudent mind or entice him to go there. But in the synagogue there are men who say they worship God and abhor idols, men who say they have prophets and pay them honor. But by their words they make ready an abundance of bait to catch in their nets the simpler souls who are so foolish as to be caught of guard.

(4) So the godlessness of the Jews and the pagans is on a par. But the Jews practice a deceit which is more dangerous. In their synagogue stands an invisible altar of deceit on which they sacrifice not sheep and calves but the souls of men.
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“Be careful,” Jesus said to them. “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”

7 They discussed this among themselves and said, “It is because we didn’t bring any bread.”

8 Aware of their discussion, Jesus asked, “You of little faith, why are you talking among yourselves about having no bread? 9 Do you still not understand? Don’t you remember the five loaves for the five thousand, and how many basketfuls you gathered? 10 Or the seven loaves for the four thousand, and how many basketfuls you gathered? 11 How is it you don’t understand that I was not talking to you about bread? But be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” 12 Then they understood that he was not telling them to guard against the yeast used in bread, but against the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

WHO WROTE THE TALMUD?

>>510457271 (OP)
Romans were idol worshipping materialists who believed in conquering the known world and leaving it at that. But you can’t slaughter your way to world domination without becoming a monster yourself. Christians are spiritualists who see there are greater cosmic forces at play here that wage war over men’s hearts and minds. It is always better to change a man than destroy a man. Their philosophy birthed western civilization and gave unprecedented freedoms and wealth as long as society remained moral and protected from outside forces seeking to sabotage and infiltrate it. We have tried a society where might makes right and it has failed considerably. Only a society where virtue makes right is worth living in.

>>510457271 (OP)
human is nothing more than a chimp with enough awareness of his environment, because his environment is full of emptiness and void, pains suffering and disease, he fills it with whatever he needs to survive the evolution of his frontal lobe. "I think therefore I am" is about the most tragic thing to happen to this species, why not just be satisfied with "nothing matters, I don't matter, all things will perish, this is just a tiny quick blip considering the larger scale of all things"....I try to talk to my boomer father about all the hell mankind does to himself, especially recently, all he replies with is "well, god will fix it soon"...I can't live like this, I can't live among people that think like this.

Always laugh at pagantrannies making shit up

>>510458142
>protocommunists crybullied the ancient world until a point where they could take actual power and instil universalist ideology in the white man

K

>>510458424
>Christianity predates Judaism

Top kek

>>510457271 (OP)
God, AI niggers are so fucking pathetic, literally incapable of even making a wojak meme

>>510465740
Absolutely garbage response.
>>510465769
I'll tell you more, it's a state of mind, a condition of heart. It is far beyond simply doing something logical. And here is where you are wrong, Christianity is not doing something because a book says it is true; Christianity is doing something, because God has changed your heart and made you capable of doing something right. Without this critical and important aspect of Christianity, we get religion (like Islam) where doing a deed is worth more than the right state of mind. If my heart is not in that action, my deed is worthless. Which is why Jesus teaches that even looking at a woman with perverse thoughts is bad, not just the action, or that even calling your brother empty or useless is the same as hitting him in the face.
And I have helped those in need, believe me.

>>510465630
>you personally feel your favorite flavor [...]
you are such a flamboyant homosexual.
>[...] of god is what gives you moral directives. yes or no.
no, God's nature is the ontic referent for the truth value of moral claims. it doesn't have to be my "favorite flavor," we could appeal to the maximally great being of mere theism if you'd prefer.
you're the one appealing to subjective preferences (empathy, peace). while those are noble in my worldview, they're not universal obligations. a cannibal could equally (and quite easily) say their morals are "grounded in authenticity" or "nature's law." without an objective standard, you're just trading opinions.

>it is [objectively grounded], read again
you're conflating consistency ("my morals are coherent to me") with objectivity ("morals exist independent of human opinion")
empathy based ethics are stable if everyone agrees, but that's collective subjectivity, not objectivity. if morality is just about human consensus, then majority opinion could justify anything, including things you're call evil.

unless you can anchor morals outside human preference you're left with "i like this, they like that" and no objective way to resolve the difference.

>>510461791
>I can't possibly understand murder and theft are bad without a jewish god

Retard.

>>510466354
Talmud is totally oral traditions dating back to moses, the trust me bro tier pharisees said so in 400 AD. They would never lie to me even though theyre the children of the father of lies!

Modern judaism is the original mormonism

>>510466494
>i can ground the truth value of moral claims in something objective without appealing to theism
go on, i'm listening.

>>510466447
KEK. The saulstian knows he can't argue in favor of yahweh because he's a semitic malevolent entity.

>>510466540
The Talmud isn't scripture. It isn't a "holy book".

>>510466301
Romans thought the moon was a god and worshipped it. They are metaphysically on the same level as Indians who worship cows. There is no coming back from that.

>>510466494
>Looks at modern kike led world where pursuit of power and pleasure have become the highest calling
Retard

An ordained rabbi owns pornhub, no amount of kvetching in this thread will change the fact at least one new anon learned this info by reading this thread, that's one more permanently antikike anon, kikes have lost :)

https://time.com/7017403/solomon-friedman-pornhub-ethical-interview/

>>510466107
>Christians are spiritualists who see there are greater cosmic forces at play here that wage war over men’s hearts and minds
No, that's greeks and romans. Christians value risk aversion and obeying authority.
Ancient civilizations saw the gods as forces of nature. These forces can take you over and destroy you. You were taught to be brave, but careful.

>>510466354
Hello newfag

>>510466765
>Romans thought the moon was a god and worshipped it.
Based

>>510466681
>when you worship Jews
>God is malevolent
You vomited two empty and meaningless statements.

>>510466674
>it's completely impossible to understand murdering my friends, family, and neighbors has negative consequences to me and the group without jew god

Lmao at your life. You belong in prison.

>>510466447
>I'll tell you more
No thanks

>>510466451
>>you personally feel your favorite flavor
>you are such a flamboyant homosexual.
Why is lying so easy to you?

>>510466451
>>[...] of god is what gives you moral directives. yes or no.
>no, God's nature is the ontic referent for the truth value of moral claims.
You're contradicting yourself. You said no them just explained why it's a yes lol

>>510466451
>you're the one appealing to subjective preferences
We all do. Morality is subjective on a macro scale and becomes more objective on a micro/societal scale.

However the outcomes of my morality are objective and true. Myself, my friends, family, neighbors and colleagues all live better the more cohesive we are and empathy is a primary tool of that. Doesn't have to be the only tool, but it is an effective one

>>510466451
>you're conflating consistency
Nope. It's not conflating when it is consistent.
>>510466451
>if morality is just about human consensus, then majority opinion could justify anything, including things you're call evil.
Welcome to legislating laws my friend.

You're preferences are just as personal as mine

>>510458424
Embarassing cope. Simple words.

Christ is Kike

>>510466773
>my enemy is subverting my people

Turn the other cheek, christgolem.

>>510466895
Tell me how you know murder is wrong. It's either an emotional reaction, or mental programming.

>>510466738
>This is why we erect eruvs around entire fucking cities and contain 3000 pages of pilpul loopholes around the actual laws of God but totally we dont follow it goyim :^)
God cursed you for adding and removing from the law like he and moses warned you not to do.
You even have the oven of akhnai in the talmud that literally claims some retarded rabbis outargued God and made him cry uncle. Demonic book for demonic children.

> Upon hearing Rabbi Joshua's response, God laughed and stated, "My children have defeated me!"[2]

og mormons
>It isnt sex if I have my roommate shake the bed
>It's not murder if we lower him into a well to starve
Youre the same as mormons just without the surface level goodwill to outsiders

>>510462496
>christgolem.exe script

>>510467027
Tell me how you know murdering innocent people is good, retard.

>>510466873
What part do you want to argue for? Condemning billions of innocents to death and suffering for the victimless "crime" of 2 people that he set up to do that specific act? Throwing feces at people's faces and ordering his own prophet to cook with feces? Ordering the genocide of cities except for the little girls to be taken as sex slaves? Unleashing poisonous snakes and fleas and floods and starvation when he could just give everyone a painless instant death? Establishing thousands of years of dick-mutilating? Turning rivers of water into blood? Mind-controlling pharaoh to force him to reject the jews demands when he didn't mind them, then drowning him and all of his army for no fucking reason? Murdering all first borns in every house unless you have goat blood on your door? Ordering infinite holocaust offerings genuinely for the only reason that "the smell of burning flesh is pleasing to me"?

Ah, what a beacon of objective grounded morality!

>>510467027
>It's either an emotional reaction, or mental programming.
Its both

>>510462756
No you don't. Alexander had a historian literally with him, coinage and bloodlines he left. Quit regurgitating Christkike apologetics

>>510467224
Youve already exposed youre obsessed with defending kikes and their talmud with the same old talking points despite being some kind of larping pagan or atheist, you already lost, just remake the thread with the same image again like u kikes always do.

>>510463543
Josephus mentions of Christ are 4th century forgeries cope. Manetho disproves Exodus if ancient t writing are your only criteria of validity

>>510457271 (OP)
>During the trial of Socrates in 399 BCE, Socrates was accused of thinking that the Sun and Moon are made of stone and earth, as opposed to being purely divine.
Muh heckin Greco-Roman worldview is based! Take that weak Christians!

the screencap that killed this psyop

>>510458142
Take your foreskin-munching jew on a stick and shove him

>>510457779
this. Antichrist shills are actual subhuman retards

>>510467385
You really want to go down that route Pablo?

>>510467392
if the antichrist shills could read they would be very upset about this post

>>510467377
Lmao

I'm not defending the talmud. Fuck the talmud and fuck the Torah, but if you believe the talmud is the word of god or that jews believe it is the word of god then you are uninformed or lying or both.

>>510467576
Get your vpns mixed up there shlomo? Wrong id buddy, hell aviv is scraping the bottom of the barrel these days huh?

Theyre not sending their best. Sad!

>>510467111
>God cursed you for adding and removing from the law like he and moses warned you not to do.
So you admit that modern jews are in fact the ones that were led by moshe?
Also, the elohim of israel didn't reject his chosen rat-faced sandniggers.
Romans 11:1-2
>I ask then, did God reject His people? Certainly not! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin.
>God did not reject His people, whom He foreknew.

>>510465915
Christ is kike

>>510457271 (OP)
>AI Wojak
Vantablack Coal

>>510467670
Im camping. Posting on mobile.

No argument then I take it?

That's what I thought, christgolem.

>>510466107
Good goy

>>510467224
That's not a answer, that's just retarded in fact.
>>510467252
>Condemning billions of innocents to death
Who are these billions, and how were they innocent.
>Throwing feces at people's faces and ordering his own prophet to cook with feces?
I have no idea where you got the throwing feces part, but God commanded Ezekiel to cook on feces as an example that was meant to shock people.
>little girls to be taken as sex slaves
Where
>Unleashing poisonous snakes and fleas and floods and starvation
For a reason, read the Bible
In fact if you had read the Bible you'd have understood the reason for all these things.
>>510467270
Thank you for the genuine answer.
>>510467285
>writings
The works of Alexander's personal historian is only found in the writings of much later historians since most of it did not survive in it's original form.
>>510467381
Prove it

>>510467027
Empathy dear non white

>>510466895
>lmfao roflcopter llolol
not an argument.
you should find it very disconcerting that you have no way to explain why someone shouldn't kill and eat you if they could get away with it without appealing to your own preferences.
>>510466932
>Why is lying so easy to you?
was it a lie, or just a statement of perceived fact?
>you're contradicting yourself.
i was clarifying that moral directives aren't derived from personal belief in God, but from God's nature itself (the ontic grounding.)
it's not a contradiction, it's distinguishing epistemology from ontology. you were conflating the source of moral awareness with the existence of moral truths.
>morality is subjective on a macro scale and becomes more objective on a micro/societal scale
objectivity implies truth independent of ANY scale of human judgment. this discussion is over really as you've conceded to my position.
>outcomes of my morality are objective and true
this is confusing instrumental effectiveness (morality leads to good outcomes) with objective truth. the fact that empathy produces positive cohesion doesn't by itself prove its moral truth, it just shows it's useful.
>Nope. It's not conflating when it is consistent.
the initial point was that internal consistency doesn't equal objectivity. you're sidestepping without addressing the distinction.
>Welcome to legislating laws my friend.
this just reinforces my original point, without a grounding principle beyond consensus, morality becomes vulnerable to whatever a majority says, including atrocities justified by law.
>You are preferences are just as personal as mine
that's true if we're talking about personal ethical intuitions. but again, we're discussing a metaphysical claim about moral truths, not moral tastes.

>>510457271 (OP)
Rent fee. You lost

>>510467859
Which is an emotional response, not a factual logical conclusion.

>>510467683
Oy vey surely more pilpul will work.

God can make stones into children of abraham if he wanted, pharisees once again did not heed the warnings. Children of the devil.

“You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. 9 And do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 10 The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.
---
After she had weaned Lo-Ruhamah, Gomer had another son. 9 Then the Lord said, “Call him Lo-Ammi (which means “not my people”), for you are not my people, and I am not your God.[b]

Sad lonely delusional whore of babylon, piling her sins up to heaven, bomb some more hospitals and starving children, Im sure you kikes believe that pleases God.

Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

>>510457271 (OP)
>muh dead Roman Empire again

Jesus you guys need new material.

>>510457389
This. Its the Cross day bear.

Cool, another gay neopagan thread

>>510457271 (OP)
>STOP BEING AGAINST FAGS YOU FUCKING BIGOT!
No, lel.

>>510467946
To show a shocking prophecy
my Lord why is all opposition to truth always such fervent and aggressive misunderstanding of it?

>>510467843
If you can't infer immediately in the ways antisocial behavior such as murder is bad, then you must have the opposite reaction of it being good.

There are mounds of reasons as to why killing innocent people is bad, but the only reasons you appear to be comfortable with is the one found in the 10 commandments. Which suggests that you would be perfectly okay with murder if it wasn't written in a jewish tome.

>>510467843
Fucking jeet larping as leaf.

>Who are these billions, and how were they innocent.
You never read the book did you? The very reason to this day we can experience pain and death according to your very own jewish book is because yahweh punished all of us forever for Adam and Eve eating a fucking fruit which he could produce infinities of and already knew they would eat it because he created them that way and put it right next to them.

>I have no idea where you got the throwing feces part,
Malachi, 2:3 I believe.

>God commanded Ezekiel to cook on feces as an example that was meant to shock people.
>You don't understand, spreading my menstrual blood on a canvas is an anti-capitalist message

>>little girls to be taken as sex slaves
>Where
Multiple times in the OT you retard, read your own damn jewish shitty book.

>For a reason, read the Bible
What reason is there to inflict genuinely needless pain? Who the fuck kills using poisonous snakes, don't tell me that's muh benevolent god, that's a fictional jewish warlord with revenge porn fantasies.

>>510467906
>without appealing to your own preferences.
>I couldn't possibly have shared preferences with others unless it's explicitly jewish in origin

Holy fuck

>>510457271 (OP)
Literally the ancient version of "Leftist". The ultimate paganlarpers. They stole all pagan culture and bastardize it.

>>510464882
If Abrahamism is a lie your morality is based on deceit. Just imagine breakfast lover

>>510467774
Saddest excuse Ive ever heard, they need to deduct shekels from your pay for doing such a pisspoor job. Vile shlomo

>>510468084
>There are mounds of reasons
Name one
>>510468174
>The very reason to this day we can experience pain and death according to your very own jewish book is because yahweh punished all of us forever for Adam and Eve
Nope, read the Bible again, from the very beginning. God cursed the earth for Adam's sake.
>Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it.
God speaking about the embarrassment Israel would face if they do not repent and turn away from their idolatry and degeneracy.
>Multiple times
where
It's all emotional, all based on seethe and feelings.

>>510467906
>was it a lie, or just a statement of perceived fact?
See how you formed a question? It's because you don't know but you are emotional do you lie. No I'm not a homosexual despite your hurt feelings

>>510467906
>i was clarifying that moral directives aren't derived from personal belief in God, but from God's nature itself (the ontic grounding.)
>it's not a contradiction
It's is, as you just keep telling me your personal preference on where you get your moral compass

>>510467906
>>morality is subjective on a macro scale and becomes more objective on a micro/societal scale
>objectivity implies truth independent of ANY scale of human judgment.
I disagree. Its human judgment that determines objectivity. Objectivity means nothing to an insect for example

>>510467906
>this discussion is over really as you've conceded to my position.
Other way around bud

>>510467906
>the fact that empathy produces positive cohesion doesn't by itself prove its moral truth, it just shows it's useful.
It's useful because it has moral truth

>>510467906
>the initial point was that internal consistency doesn't equal objectivity.
But it's not internal when others are affected by in amd inturn practice it

>>510467906
>you're sidestepping without addressing the distinction.
Incorrect

>>510467906
>>Welcome to legislating laws my friend.
>this just reinforces my original point, without a grounding principle beyond consensus,
But that's how laws are man and changed consensus.

>>510467906
>including atrocities justified by law.
Thanks for proving my right

>>510467906
>we're discussing a metaphysical claim about moral truths, not moral tastes.
There is no difference

>>510468084
>If you can't infer immediately in the ways antisocial behavior such as murder is bad, then you must have the opposite reaction of it being good.
false dichotomy.
see your philosophers in the pic here: >>510460198
it's not that the opposite of bad stuff is good, it's the good and bad don't exist as meaningful distinctions at all within the moral antirealist framework atheism implies.

also, everyone knows "murder" is bad, because murder by definition is killing+bad.
but not everyone agrees that killing is bad at all times.
some people (in this thread) think Christians should be killed
some people think violent crimnals should be killed
some people think no one should be killed.

how can we decide on who is right?

>>510468466
>how can we decide on who is right?
By the context of their claims and a consensus

>>510468002
>pilpul
Nope, I quoted saul of tarsus where he said his fellow sandniggers weren't rejected by the elohim of israel.
>bomb some more hospitals and starving children, Im sure you kikes believe that pleases God.
I'm not picrel and the elohim of israel commanded your favorite sandniggers to do what they do today. Of course, you have cope and pilpul ready. lmao
1 Samuel 15:3
>Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

>>510468566
>consensus = metaphysical truth
terrifying notion
>>510468460
>No I'm not a homosexual despite your hurt feelings
i'm just going where the evidence leads me.
>It's is, as you just keep telling me your personal preference on where you get your moral compass
i'm done. i warned you earlier. >>510465386

>>510460880
>"Gut instinct"
Parasitepill is the final redpill. This are worms thinking and talking.

>>510468372
>no arguments found

>>510468454
Survival.

>>510467670
They've been using jeets.

>>510467707
>Doesn't know where the word kike comes from
Lurk more newfag

>>510468296
>Abrahamism
good morning saar

>>510468658
>consensus = metaphysical truth
>terrifying notion
That's not what I said

>>510468658
>>No I'm not a homosexual despite your hurt feelings
>i'm just going where the evidence leads me.
What evidence exactly? Me having a different opinion than you?
>>510468658
>>It's is, as you just keep telling me your personal preference on where you get your moral compass
>i'm done.
I accept your concession

>>510468454
>Nope, read the Bible again, from the very beginning. God cursed the earth for Adam's sake.
I love how jews pilpul by pretending rephrasing something to say the exact same thing somehow changes everything.
>No no no, he did not say "I will stab you to death", he said "I will kill you with a knife", this is completely different checkmate non jew-worshipers

>God speaking about the embarrassment Israel would face if they do not repent and turn away from their idolatry and degeneracy.
"I WILL SPREAD FECES ON YOUR FACES"
>Noooo guys he didn't mean it, I know better than yahweh what he actually meant

Saulstians are a jok.

>where It's all emotional, all based on seethe and feelings.
>REEEE you must know all the intricate details and exact verses for the hundreds of variations of jewish revenge porn fantasies that I don't even know and won't look for!!! You are emotional and unstable and weiiiiirrrrrd if you don't remember by heart in which verse the jews take little girls as sex slaves

I cant wait for the day you jews are all fucking hanged.

>>510468699
Well not really, in the eyes of the murderer.

>>510468466
Objective morality doesn't exists. What's good for me and mine doesn't extend to my enemies.

For the nigger to come to white lands and take is good for the nigger. It is bad for the white to pay for all of it.

>>510468699
why prioritize survival?
why not pleasure?
we're only on this spinning ball of mud for about 80 halloweens at maximum.
wouldn't it be better to experience all that you possibly can, like drugs sex and rock n' roll? live fast die young?
there's no inherent meaning to existence right?

>>510457389
fpbp

>>510468811
I don't follow. Are we saying that because the murderer is getting a thrill from murdering that murder is now good?

>>510468938
>why prioritize survival?
>why not pleasure?
Because you live longer to experience more and new pleasure

This isn't hard to understand

>>510468921
>Objective morality doesn't exists.
this is a bold counterintuitive claim to knowledge that you can't actually justify without asserting atheist materialism as true, and most atheists are too pussy to actually argue that atheism is true and instead hide behind agnosticism.

>>510468938
Because it doesn't lead to happiness you retarded jew. Individualism at the expense of the group ends miserably for everyone every single time, Aryans don't need jewish fairytales to know that. Dying of a drug overdose at 26 after fucking a hooker isn't healthy, and you don't need fictional rabbis to understand that as an Aryan.

>>510468794
>you must know all the intricate details and exact verses
to criticize Christianity, yes. You think you're a polemic, but you're actually a toddler, both in thinking ability and emotions.

>>510469090
>this is a bold counterintuitive claim to knowledge that you can't actually justify
Sure you can. Name all things that ar4 objectively moral.

You won't be able to without using personal preference

>>510468657
Keep kvetching kikes, even youth evangelical support for u kikes is down below 30% that would be unheard of even 2 decades ago, just goes to show your lies only work for so long... Shoah is coming tick tock

For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of God’s churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own people the same things those churches suffered from the Jews 15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to everyone 16 in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved. In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit. The wrath of God has come upon them at last.[b]

You kikes will not escape God's wrath, but go on keep bombing starving people in that open air prison camp you kikes run, you kikes havent stacked up your sins high enough yet, keep going.

>>510468938
You do that and report back to me on how your hedonistic adventures stack up to others who prioritize stability. Planting trees who's shade they will never sit in, as it were.

>>510461791
cavemen didn't murder each other out of existence. morality does not require religion.
break it down to; are humans good or are humans selfish, still doesn't matter. if they're only good because it rewards them, then they can also do it without religion. either way, religion isn't required.

>>510469141
>>you must know all the intricate details and exact verses
>to criticize Christianity, yes
It's that very reason why Christians are so divided on their own holy book. Kek

>>510457271 (OP)
We conquered the entire world.

>>510457271 (OP)
Shalom rebbe. Meme against judaism and islam when?

>>510469141
KEK
>To criticize Christianity, yes.
I love saulstians cope, truly pilpul masters.
>"I don't need to know my book that I claim is the ETERNAL WORD OF A PERFECT OMNISCIENT GOD AND THE GREATEST WISDOM IN THE UNIVERSE FOR ALL ETERNITY, it's those who don't believe that a jew is god who should know everything"

>>510457271 (OP)
AHHHHHHHHH!
BURN THE PAGA- I MEAN THE ANTISEMIT- OR UH THE HEATHEN!

>>510469042
I was not alluding to thrill, but rather to the fact that murder could be advantageous to some. Would the murder of a ruthless dictator be good? Or how about the murder of someone who is more successful than you, so you can inherit his possessions?
>>510469255
I think that only proves God's word is truthful, considering the multiple prophecies of "wolves in sheep's clothing" and "waterless clouds" who defile and deform the word of God.

>>510469090
But I would never argue atheism. I can't know god exists or doesn't anymore than anyone else.

Im not "hiding" behind anything.

Also it's not counterintuitive as context matters.
>my wife is being raped by niggers but I can't le murder xDDDDDDDD

>>510469304
>I love
There isn't a shred of love in you.

>>510469108
you're assuming hedonism fails because it's "unhealthy" or "miserable," but if life has no inherent meaning, why does "health" or "happiness" matter?
your argument against pleasure maxing is itself a moral claim (this is bad because it harms the group) but if morality is just aryan pragmatism, you've got no ground to call anything objectively wrong, only inefficient.

your "group survival" ethic is just another subjective preference. why is the aryan collective's survival "good?" if there's no higher standard, it's just tribalism wwith extra steps. even nazis appealed to "natural order"

you're smuggling in moral judgments (overdosing at 26 is bad) while denying any objective basis for them. either
>morality is real (and requires a transcendent foundation that atheism lacks), or
>it's just opinions (and your aryan pragmatism is as arbitrary as the hedonism you mock)
pick one.

>>510469461
>why is the aryan collective's survival "good?"

>>510469394
>I think that only proves God's word is truthful
Not really. It proves "God's word" is just man's word which changes based on subjective interpretation

>>510469302
They cant spare the shekels right now, too busy laundering all our taxpayer dollars

>>510469394
Are you implying Christian leadership does not nor has not ever murdered for power?

Are you conflating geopolitical moves to the common man?

>>510457861
I am of Israel, retard. Being butthurt that you have to behave like an adult and follow the rules isn't going to help you in life.
>>510458114
>oy vey look at my MS paint fellow goyim!
>this means you should hate God now because I do!

>>510469461
>but if life has no inherent meaning
Life has a lot of meaning. Even to an atheist
>>510469461
>your "group survival" ethic is just another subjective preference
As is yours. You subjectivity picked your favorite flavor of god to get your morality from. Which is just man's morality cloaked in a God claim

>>510457271 (OP)
Every pagan is just a faggot.
Their true hatred of Christianity is that tells the truth - faggots are gay

>>510469544
Subjective interpretation does not mean it isn't God's word, however. Much like one tribe's morality conflicting with another's does not mean objective morality itself does not exist.

>>510469461
>why is the aryan collective's survival "good?"

>be me
>Aryan
>want to survive

>>510469531
can you answer the question?
almost all of us whites outside of tatted up prison gang members don't give a shit about it.
>>510469397
>But I would never argue atheism
typical
>I can't know god exists or doesn't anymore than anyone else.
how do you rationalize your claim that morality cannot be objective then in an ontological sense?

>>510469686
thats right boy, we know you're gay for jesus. save those cheeks for your jew lord

>>510469620
I am implying that a Christian does not and will not murder for power, wealth, fame, etc, because he knows God's will.

>>510457271 (OP)
Christianity gave a dying Rome another 1000 years, and nationalism increased demand for Jewish cross border connections

>>510469759
>how do you rationalize your claim
>different IDs
nevermind.

>>510469759
>how do you rationalize your claim that morality cannot be objective
>what is context

Sometimes murder is justified.

>>510469725
>Subjective interpretation does not mean it isn't God's word
I disagree. Its man's words being subjectively interpreted. Just look at Martin Luther removing 7 books from the bible

>>510469725
>objective morality itself does not exist.
Name every objective moral. You won't be able to without using personal preference

>>510469845
>am implying that a Christian does not and will not murder for power, wealth, fame, etc

Yet history would suggest otherwise.

>>510469743
I couldn't make a caricature of saulstians as good as what they actually are. They genuinely ask "Why do you want your family and race to live, if you don't believe in the jewish rabbi, why do you not want to experience death and suffering and see your whole family raped and killed in front of your eyes and all Aryans die, that doesn't make sense!"

>>510469871
>Sometimes murder is justified.
this is a logical impossibility, like a square circle.
killing is sometimes (or often) justified, but murder by definition means it's unjustified.

>>510457271 (OP)
>without sounding mad?
tired of this shill line

>>510466170
Sure, we get your teen angst against dad and muh society. But how come everything comes from nothing? What is your view on the beginning of the universe?
Don’t forget the big bang theory first appeared in a paper by Georges Lemaître, a Catholic priest

>>510469848
bahahahahahahahahhahahaahahahahahhahahahaha
keeping a corpse with dementia alive so that maggots can fester on it longer is nothing to brag about

>>510469759
>how do you rationalize your claim that morality cannot be objective then in an ontological sense?
cannot be objective because it is rooted in human perception and cultural context

This is what defeats you

>>510457271 (OP)
Christians persecuted Jews for centuries the meme doesnt make sense

>>510469999
>but murder by definition means it's unjustified.
Who determines what is or isn't justified?

>>510469925
>Just look at Martin Luther removing 7 books from the bible
He excluded the books we call "apocryphal" today from his translation of the Bible into German. I've read the Apocrypha and I can say that they have little to no spiritual in them.
>Name every objective moral.
the one's commanded by God :)

>>510469999
Are you unable to discern the difference between a murder of jealousy and a murder of defense or how society would respond to either?

Genuine question.

>>510470177
>I've read the Apocrypha and I can say that they have little to no spiritual in them.
To you they don't
>>510470177
>>Name every objective moral.
>the one's commanded by God :)
That's over 600, can you demonstrate you follow each one? The answer is definitely a no :^)

>>510470205
>or how society would respond to either
Why would this matter?

>>510470299
>That's over 600, can you demonstrate you follow each one?
I follow the one's God has made universal, not the specific commands He gave to Abraham or Moses. And Jesus tells us what that command is: love :)

>>510470205
the act of killing in self-defense might be legally and morally justified. it's typically labeled "manslaughter" or "justifiable homicide" depending on the jurisdiction.
whereas killing out of jealously, premeditated and driven by passion is what the law and most moral frameworks call "murder," which is by definition unjustified.

so if someone says
>murder is sometimes justified
they're misusing the word "murder" because it already means "unjustified killing"

>>510470336
Because we live in one and it is society that imposes judgment and consequences.

Kindergarten tier understanding of civics, leaf nigger.

>>510470336
>Why would this matter?
Because it's society that determines "objective" morality within that society

>>510469999
Of course you wouldn't understand. You follow slave morality.

>>510465492
came here to post this

>>510470448
>I follow the one's God has made universal, not the specific commands He gave to Abraham or Moses
Oh so you subjective pick and choose what to follow then.

>>510470473
Semantics.

Sometimes killing is justified.

+41UPpxE

Is a coward

Retarded thread full of retards. It’s very easy to make a case for morality and ethics outside of christianity. It’s also easy to analyse the origin of good and evil. You just need to look beyond yourself. Oh, that might be impossible for egoistical normiegroids.

https://ourchan DOT org/pol/thread/16434.html

>>510470589
semantics are the most important part of communication.
>Sometimes killing is justified.
i absolutely agree.

>>510457271 (OP)
Lern to mad.

>>510470734
And how do you agree on murder vs killing?

>>510457271 (OP)
embarrassingly bad meme

>>510470641
>It’s very easy to make a case for morality and ethics outside of [theism]
the only case i've seen for moral realism from an atheistic perspective is from philosophers like landau, who appeal to brute facts and moral intuition, the sort of argumentation they'd sneer at if used as justification for belief in God.

>>510458142
>Redefines strenght
Weakness is now strenght guys, totally true :^)

>>510470449
>I have syphilis from engaging in debauchery and had a mental breakdown over a horse caused by neurosyphilis
>Nietzsche, deeply disturbed by the scene, ran to the horse and embraced it, sobbing. This event is often cited as a pivotal moment marking the beginning of Nietzsche's mental breakdown and subsequent decline into profound madness.
>Nietzsche spent the next 11 years of his life under care, experiencing profound madness and dementia.
>I am a role model
Yes for the retarded. Dont worry we all had our nietzsche phase, I still have zarathustra installed on my kindle.

>>510465915
>posts generic argument on why Jesus is God.
>If no God, why universe happen.
>Rabbi just meant teacher.
>Crust is kang post.
>Picture if Jewsus as a white aryan Chad (ahistorical).
>Pagan marvel characters haha.
>Out of context, incomplete Bible verse.
>You must love Christ because jews hate Christ.
>Judean and Judaism are not the same thing.
>I hate Jews even though I parrot the talmud (old testament) word for word.
>Praise Jewsus
>Look at this lie about Odin that a jew made up!
>Christ was white look at this painting I pulled out of my ass.
>Paganism/atheism is controlled opposition for goy golems
>mainstream christcuckery is the trojan horse the jews use to subvert our country. We need to all believe my own personal version of Christianity that only I follow.
>Whites would all be living in mud huts if it weren't for jew on a stick!

>>510471605
>talmud (old testament)
That's the torah. Otherwise, based.

>>510457271 (OP)
MUH 2000 YEAR PLAN
very seethe
there's an eternal september of 20 something reddit niggers, even their hero neetzsche had a better understanding

>>510471529
>give me muh role models
Nobody is perfect and nobody claimed he's a role model. He's still right about genealogy of morality.

>>510471232
>the only case i've seen for moral realism from an atheistic perspective is from philosophers like landau
This is another lie

>>510471804
the torah is the 5 books of moses
tanakh would be most synonymous with the OT

>>510471232
if God's morality was different from your morality, whose would you follow? For example, if God considered stealing as good, but you considered it as evil- what your stance on stealing would be?

>>510471605
>atheism is
Just a lack of belief in God or gods

>>510469655
>I am of Israel
Get in the oven

>>510472660
Amazing how that anon ignores this. Very telling

>>510472059
>Muh Übermensch
>Nobody is talking about role models
Yup like I said retards

>>510472660
there is no "God's morality" and "my morality" in an ontological sense in my worldview.
ontologically, there's only morality, which is grounded in God's nature. i have a subjective perception of what morals truths are, the same way i have a subjective perception on any other truth (math, science, biology, etc) but that doesn't mean morality is subjective ontologically. God doesn't "consider" the truth value of moral claims, they exist necessarily like numbers and laws of logic.

if it was revealed to me that stealing in some scenario would be a "good," i'd do it. but according to the revelation i've received from sacred scripture, it's not.

>>510457271 (OP)
Rome didnt succeed because of christianity or paganism or usery or jews

Romes success is entirely owed to the victory of Julius Caesar. I dont think people properly appreciate the miracle Caesar accomplished. Empires only last 250 years yet rome lasted 2 cycles of 450 years. Why???

Because at the end of one of the cycles rime went thru 80 years of timmult from the grqcchi bros to marius and sulla. The roman republic for all intents and purposes should have collapsed with the catalinian conspiracy. But then something happened. Cicero summarily executed the rich corrupt elites. This gave caesar a window to rise to power and then what happened when he won? He won so spectacularly and killed every single corrupt elite so hard that he had time to fix the economy. Pay off the debts and even fixed the entire calander so well we still use Caesars leap year today.

The momentum caesar built up threw europe into prosperity, and gave future leaders a model to strive for that caesars europe lasted all the way until the death of fucking Charlamagne 900 years later.

Europe would literally be Africa or Asia tier if it wasnt for Julius Caesars victory that purged europe of the corrupt elites that always seek to suck the wealth and prosperity of a society

>>510472660
A) God does not see stealing as good
B) My morality is God's morality. God gave me a conscience for that very reason.

>>510472753
A lack of belief as an emotional response. Deep down it offends and condemns them, but the atheist chooses to pretend he doesn't believe in anything.

>>510473661
Notice how this clown didn't actually answer the question?

Here's a simple one. Is murdering babies always bad?

Watch, he'll avoid this too

>>510474075
>A lack of belief as an emotional response.
Depends on the context. For me, I haven't been convinced of the existence of God, let alone your favorite one

>>510474075
>but the atheist chooses to pretend he doesn't believe in anything.
Why the this constant strawman? I believe in a lot of things

>>510473661
This idiot again. Do you still "disagree" that your god and your jewish savior condoned atrocities against children in the (((bible)))?

>>510474391
see >>510469999

>>510473852
>My morality is God's morality
Is murdering babies always bad?

>>510473852
This is precisely why browns and niggers are joining saulstianity so much. Aryan young kids first go through a morality system of "I shouldn't do X because I'll be punished" then as they mature into their teenage years they adopt "I shouldn't do X because it's wrong". They internalize the rationale as to why a thing is bad, for the good of society, aka their race, town, family, community. If you steal just one thing, sure you won short term if not caught, but if everyone starts stealing, then everyone will have to spend vastly more effort on protecting their stuff than they'll ever gain through stealing in the first place.

Aryans internalize what is good for their race, this is what makes them superior moral beings, pure, kind, healthy, strong, because they understand the ramifications of evil actions, the discord they'll inevitably caused if they start to be normalized.

But subhumans (like saulstians) cannot understand this, they remain forever locked into the first step "punishment bad, me avoid punishment", which is why they absolutely need this idea of an omniscient god, to be certain that stealing from the cookie jar will be detected 100% of the time. For the really dumb brownoids, the quran repeats that "Allah knows all secrets and knows all that's in your heart" every single page to really hammer that point into their heads. Subhumans only understand punishment, Aryans understand goodness.

I hate the modern religious discourse honestly.
"I serve christ so hard"
"I serve odin harder"
just be independent you worms, why serve what has failed you?

>>510473661
>if it was revealed to me that stealing in some scenario would be a "good," i'd do it
My point is that your logic is sound and valid, but the fact that your subjective perception of morality aligns so perfectly with God's morality makes the whole thing suspiciously self-fulfilling.

>>510473394
Übermensch isnt a role model, its not the embodiment of his philosophy, but his envisioned future of mankind. You dont know what youre talking about, Nietzsche was explicitly against role models.

>>510474582
Your God condone it. Therefore you have morality outside your God

>>510474545
>Do you still "disagree" that your god and your jewish savior condoned atrocities against children
yeah.
>what about exodus 12? what about joshua 6? what about hosea 13? what about isaiah 13?
1: most of these stories are descriptive rather than prescriptive. (bob ate a cookie vs go eat a cookie, bob)
2: the wages of sin is death, God killing people is isn't immoral, it's justice

>>510475004
>God killing people is isn't immoral, it's justice
Kek this clown thinks God murdering babies is justice.

This is how you know these people are the ultimate faggots

>>510474849
>but the fact that your subjective perception of morality aligns so perfectly with God's morality makes the whole thing suspiciously self-fulfilling.
it doesn't always.
i want to have a harem and kill people who annoy me.

>>510475004
>yeah
Retard.
>God killing people is isn't immoral
Nice subjective morality, retard.

>>510475116
>i want to have a harem and kill people who annoy me
I don't. And you're the one who claims they have objective morality lol

>>510475206
>Nice subjective morality, retard.
explain

>>510468761
Christ is Kike

>>510468761
You gilollow the beliefs of Abraham. Christ is Kike

>>510475451
Or just stop being an annoying fucking retard. God told the bolsheviks to kill the tsar's children, just like he told moshe to kill children. Prove me wrong.
>you can't

>>510475587
weird, i don't see an explanation there.

>>510466837
2016 called

>>510475116
Hopefully one day you'll be self-aware enough to annoy yourself.

>>510475711
You can see the big fat L you've taken yet again because your god is a piece of shit kike that you have to go to bat for in spite of your insistence that his existence has established objective morality by its very virtue.
>>510475717
I don't think he'd live very long in a world where people were legally murdered over trivialities.

>>510475451
See
>>510474888

>>510476576
>I don't think he'd live very long in a world where people were legally murdered over trivialities.
what do you base that notion on?