Whats the true cost to enter Heaven? - /pol/ (#510463992) [Archived: 367 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: qEzVxWDWUnited States
7/15/2025, 7:40:11 PM No.510463992
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Is it a little weird that we expect God to take care of us non stop for eternity based on just 60-80 years of living on Earth? I feel it's going to actually cost us something for the generosity.
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Anonymous ID: /NX01XsVMexico
7/15/2025, 7:42:41 PM No.510464178
zip it kike
Anonymous ID: e0TSR5GuCanada
7/15/2025, 7:43:05 PM No.510464214
>>510463992 (OP)
>Is it a little weird that we expect God to take care of us non stop for eternity based on just 60-80 years of living on Earth?
No, you aren't a goldfish that needs to be fed and it's fishtank cleaned. You are a creature with free will. You either will your own will and save yourself, or you will God's will and be saved by Him.
Anonymous ID: ny7ndiAUUnited States
7/15/2025, 7:45:44 PM No.510464410
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I mean the cost is very clearly pain and suffering.

The old testament makes it clear that karma is real, and in order to save us from Karma he sent his son to die for our sins.

keep in mind that karma is less a moral system and more a spiritual physics system. Moral entities can exist in immoral flesh. With the right teachings we get to learn how to process those and ascend even higher spiritually.

when jews hide that information from us he sends a son to take the suffering off of us and elevate us to our position where we started.
Anonymous ID: ZjTMoBqPUnited States
7/15/2025, 7:48:33 PM No.510464586
>>510463992 (OP)
>Is it a little weird that we expect God to take care of us non stop for eternity based on just 60-80 years of living on Earth? I feel it's going to actually cost us something for the generosity.
You have to work a job in heaven to earn your keep. There will be ditch diggers, coal miners, factory workers, office drones etc.
It's like this life but with a higher quality of living, sort of like moving to Iceland or Switzerland.
Anonymous ID: 9xcQZ5toUnited States
7/15/2025, 8:08:57 PM No.510466128
>>510463992 (OP)
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, โ€œI am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Anonymous ID: 702z/pkTUnited States
7/15/2025, 8:10:56 PM No.510466278
>>510463992 (OP)
I didn't choose to be born or be a conscious being.
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Anonymous ID: LvO34zNTUnited States
7/15/2025, 8:11:13 PM No.510466294
>>510463992 (OP)
your understanding of heaven is a fantasy
same as hell
scripture anthropomorphizes it for our minds to understand the idea
Anonymous ID: UWT0xlwO
7/15/2025, 8:15:38 PM No.510466625
>>510463992 (OP)
The price paid for such privelege was God's very own blood on the cross:

โ€œยถ Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.โ€ (Acts 20:28)

โ€œFor by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.โ€ (Ephesians 2:8-9)
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Anonymous ID: 0J7JzsvqSpain
7/15/2025, 8:18:07 PM No.510466840
>>510463992 (OP)
My theory is that heaven and hell are "snapshot" states of consciousness that become static personal experiences right at the moment of biological death. Perception of time is stretched infinitely or even looped, creating either "eternal suffering" or "eternal salvation". In other words you get to bath in your own juices for all eternity, if you carry regret and identity issues that would translate into hell.

Jesus always pointed inward, said "the kingdom" and forgiveness is there. Externalizing all these concepts and seeing them as external forces or places has made people lose control over them, seeking forgiveness outside of themselves. I think that's the most dangerous trap.
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Anonymous ID: 702z/pkTUnited States
7/15/2025, 8:18:08 PM No.510466845
>>510466625
Why do all the christfags only post the same 10 verses... Oh yeah, they have never actually read the Bible
Kys memeflaggot
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7/15/2025, 8:21:09 PM No.510467042
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13. And as the earthly Flesh must die, so also the Life and Will must die from Sin, and be as a Child that knoweth nothing, but longeth only after the Mother which brought it forth. So likewise must the Will of a Christian enter again into its Mother, viz. into the Spirit of Christ, and become a Child in itself, in its own Will and Power, having its Will and Desire inclined and directed only towards its Mother. And a new Will and Obedience in Righteousness, which willeth Sin no more, must rise from Death out of the Spirit of Christ in him.
Anonymous ID: 2jR+DcL+Canada
7/15/2025, 8:22:01 PM No.510467097
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>>510463992 (OP)
Jesus paid for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tf72DtkGvI
Anonymous ID: 8t71ZqNZUnited States
7/15/2025, 8:22:49 PM No.510467152
>>510463992 (OP)
John 3:16
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m=33 yo man
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E=eternal life
E=126 quadrillion dollars
Anonymous ID: UWT0xlwO
7/15/2025, 8:23:19 PM No.510467192
>>510466845
Which verses? I have quoted countless from the whole bible.
Anonymous ID: 0E2zHM7PUnited States
7/15/2025, 8:23:47 PM No.510467225
Youre only allowed to bring in things you 100% proved you dont care about. Thats why most people cant even bring themsleves inside
LUCIFER !!P38zFLDUYUhID: IZBSyw7+
7/15/2025, 8:26:23 PM No.510467416
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... the first step is sacrifice, the second, renunciation.

https://youtu.be/fregObNcHC8
Anonymous ID: vhR172J3United States
7/15/2025, 8:27:03 PM No.510467469
>>510463992 (OP)

There is no cost, anon. He has already determined who will live on and who will be destroyed. All that's left is for each and every single one of us to come into this world and fulfill our divinely ordained purpose on this planet.
Yes, even the wicked serve a purpose.

The Grace of God is what guarantees you eternal life, not works.
Catholics seethe and cope at this because both them and their ancestors will have wasted entire lifetimes trying to earn something which can only be given.

Don't be a catholic, be intelligent. Be honest with yourself and do what your heart has purposed to do. God will sort you out in the end.
Anonymous ID: UWT0xlwO
7/15/2025, 8:27:53 PM No.510467531
>>510466840
You cannot forgive yourself. Only God can, and that's the purpose of the cross; it allows helpless sinners to be forgiven.
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Anonymous ID: ecqGT6cPUnited States
7/15/2025, 8:31:28 PM No.510467798
The only cost is that you swallow your pride and worship Jesus Christ as your lord and saviour.
Anonymous ID: 0J7JzsvqSpain
7/15/2025, 8:36:20 PM No.510468182
>>510467531
Saying "only God can forgive" assumes you're separate from God. Jesus said that you are in the father, and he in you. By externalizing the teachings you're all placing your power in the hands of others and denying your own sovereignty that is in you as part of the father. Modern evangelical doctrine made christians retarded and condemned them.
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Anonymous ID: 2mCr/jjmLatvia
7/15/2025, 8:38:09 PM No.510468327
>>510463992 (OP)
It's almost as if that's fake shit invented by zoroastrians. Christianity put together plato, judaism and zoroastrianism to create the ultimate globohomo hellscape.
Anonymous ID: CJxbvZ0dCanada
7/15/2025, 8:40:37 PM No.510468501
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>>510463992 (OP)
Anonymous ID: EfQhalW/Germany
7/15/2025, 8:42:36 PM No.510468650
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Death to the christmeme! I am an evolutionary von Neumann machine living the automaton life in this grand particle automaton we call the Universe, or Quantum Field. Jesus christmeme will never provide satisfactory answers to the interesting questions, it's about goyim programming so you all act in peculiar ways to emanate the church-egregore.
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Anonymous ID: UWT0xlwO
7/15/2025, 8:45:23 PM No.510468859
>>510468182
God dwells in a saved person, but the saved person isn't God.

โ€œIf we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.โ€ (1 John 1:9)
Anonymous ID: A0WMy0kEUnited Kingdom
7/15/2025, 8:46:27 PM No.510468948
>>510468182
>Saying "only God can forgive" assumes you're separate from God.

We are seperate, Jesus has led the way to reconciliation with our heavenly Father. Jesus Christ, Lord and Saviour, was sinless, blameless, entirely innocent, both man and God and has opened the gate of my and your salvation.

Thank you, Lord Jesus!
Anonymous ID: 9xcQZ5toUnited States
7/15/2025, 8:50:52 PM No.510469311
>>510466278
You choose what to do with your life.

>>510468650
>machine
So you're just acting by the programing that was there before you were born?
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Anonymous ID: 702z/pkTUnited States
7/15/2025, 8:53:05 PM No.510469491
>>510469311
>You choose what to do with your life.
What does that have to do with what I said you fucking retard
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Anonymous ID: J24ux8ZyUnited Kingdom
7/15/2025, 8:59:28 PM No.510470018
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>>510469311
>So you're just acting by the programing that was there before you were born?
>there before you were born
Yes, yes I am! I can't fly like a bird technologically unassisted, or lift a million times my mass; I am beholden to the laws of this automaton. You too are beholden to those ancient laws.
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Anonymous ID: nUNUsZZZ
7/15/2025, 9:03:27 PM No.510470353
>>510463992 (OP)
I've been thinking a lot about this, and it seems like Paul contradicts Jesus's teachings. Jesus said he came to uphold the law and not abolish it, but Paul said that all of a sudden it's okay to eat pork and be uncircumcised and you have to pay the church a percentage of your income
I think Paul might have been an agent of the Roman empire
Anonymous ID: mWLfHfb8Turkey
7/15/2025, 9:05:05 PM No.510470475
>>510463992 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PQbXr8oD50
Anonymous ID: /iRYa9xzUnited States
7/15/2025, 9:16:41 PM No.510471351
>>510463992 (OP)
the blood of Jesus is the only ticket to heaven
Anonymous ID: 9xcQZ5toUnited States
7/15/2025, 9:27:42 PM No.510472173
>>510469491
Truth. Think about it in light of the OP.

>>510470018
>mixes hardware with programing
>Admits to being a NPC
Anonymous ID: HSizKNucUnited States
7/15/2025, 9:34:09 PM No.510472666
He only takes care of Jews.
Your gentile ass is gonna work!
Anonymous ID: lMcNE91NUnited States
7/15/2025, 9:39:30 PM No.510473066
Itโ€™s very hard to control people in the real world by just using the means that are available in the real world. If youโ€™re bigger and stronger than someone you can get them to hand over their sandwich by hitting them, or if you have a big stick or something. If you want to exert a large amount of control over a large number of people, though, you generally have to seize that control through the narrative world.
Itโ€™s easier to control people through the narrative world than the real world because the narrative world and its relationship with the real world is too complicated for most people to understand, whereas the real world is quite simple and straightforward. For this reason, a tremendous amount of energy goes into controlling the dominant narratives, the dominant stories that people tell about whatโ€™s going on in the world.