Why do tradies always lie about how much they make?

>>510477844 (OP)
It feels good

>>510477844 (OP)
I make 70k doing commercial door hardware and thank god I don't have to share an office with an insufferable faggot like yourself

>>510477844 (OP)
There’s lots of variables but no one likes explaining shit to office children so figure it out yourself.

>>510478129
>>510478300
>No argument, just defensiveness

Yeah, about what I expected.

>>510477844 (OP)
> the average
Okay, now the median please.

>>510479412
>No argument
You haven't presented anything to argue against.

>>510477844 (OP)
They lie to the government, they brag to you

a lot of US tradies that are past 4 years of experience do clear $60k @ 40hr/wk. the thing non-trades people don't understand is a lot of those dudes work 60-70hr/wk with double time @ the 55hr mark. that's how you get these 28 year old electricians driving loaded camaros and shit.

>>510477844 (OP)
70k in many places in the US is enough for a mortgage on an Americana home and supports a family. Plus no college debt or having to put up with white collar faux-bourgeois socialization. Comfy.

>>510480435
>that's how you get these 28 year old electricians driving loaded camaros and shit.
No, you get that because they got a huge loan, live like a slob in a dump, are functionally broke, and need to work 55 hours/week to pay for the car.

>>510477844 (OP)
plumbers that 'make more' probably live in areas with a higher cost of living so it's a wash.

>>510480541
Okay, but these people ain't claiming that they make 70k, they claim they're getting twice that amount.

>>510477844 (OP)
I'm already at 49k for the year, 35k after taxes and I'm not even a loiscensed plumber yet.

>>510477844 (OP)
What is the average cost of living across the entire US?

Empty barrels make the most noise.

Once you are licensed you charge 100 bucks an hour dummy

>>510477844 (OP)
I make 30$ an hour in Michigan and someday I'll make 40$. That's no lie and yes I'm poor.

>>510477844 (OP)
Most plumbers aren’t hourly wagies, they are contract workers.

If you don’t need money, you are just “too busy” to work and go on vacation.
Some plumbers unironically do make 6 figures, but they work all the fucking time.

I can only speak for myself, but good fucking luck getting me to do fuck all after I hit around 40k in a year while I’m holding no debt.

>>510480935
because they do.
they're making $60-70k from their base wages @ 40/hr a week. many tradesmen have such a high demand for their labor that they get work for an additional 15-30 hours, with union double time pay @ the 55 hr mark.
you absolutely will go from $65k to $120k if you do that more weeks than not.

>>510477844 (OP)

>Entry level make 40k
>Masters make 100k.
Average that out.

>>510478300
i always find the endless tradie coping hilarious. you know deep down white collar work is superior. the amount of justification a tradesman does to prove it's all worth it is enough for me.

i make ~$69/hr as a union arborist
if you crunch that out for the year it's like $130k/yr gross (assuming you take some time off)
granted this is just above poverty where i live, average house is about $6k/mo mortgage, and rent for 1 person is ~$2.3k/mo

>>510480435
Hm, not worth it. I hate most people. I'd rather be poor than call another man 'sir' in this age.

>>510477844 (OP)
plumbers and electricians charge me 125/hr
The electricians aren't even good half the time - tell me there's no issue, then the tenant moves out and I find busted off plug prongs in a floor outlet
Apiance people replacing parts which according to another tech have never seen go bad
Appliance people can't fix the fridge with the spare part which came with it - door spacers, no tools required
Trades are 90% a bunch of dunce gypsies only good at ripping people off
Check out home inspector channels inspecting NEW construction
Roof trusses? Unnecessary
Drinking job? Mandatory
Gas leaks? (kek) Every single time
Can't stucco properly? You bet
Broken welds on windows and sliding doors? Fuckin right every time,
Upside down, inside out window installs? Believe it or not,
Cracked and broken shower modules? 90% of the time as well,
Sewer exhaust into the attic? Let's Go,
2x4 support beams too short and not making contact? Of course,
Level walls? That's for faggots,
Ripping you off on less than minimum insulation despite you laying for extra insulation? Sucker,
Leaking roofs? Get wet,
Water damage in the attic? Jump in,
and on, and on, and on
Good trades people are great
But they almost don't fucking exist.
Your 800,000 home is being built by the same incompetent people building 400,000 homes.
Building companies simply subcontract all work
Trades people don't know how to do their own job

>>510481398
$100 per hour?
Lol, no. Half your day is spent driving to jobs and $400 bucks per day becomes $200 after jewish business taxes. Factor in the gas guzzling truck/van and you will starve charging $100 bucks per hour on site.

>>510477844 (OP)
do you expect every single one to make the average, retard?

>>510482017
>Half your day is spent driving to jobs
this is retard cope. paid by the hour dumb nigger. this counts. and you also drive to work. if you dont, your job is gone to a.i. very very soon. bye brokie nigger.

>>510482175
>this is retard cope
It's a fucking fact of service plumbing.
Half of almost every day of work is spent in your truck driving to people's houses to do your fucking job.

>>510481684
Lol, today I answered the phone and wrote some emails at my superior white color job. What's that Miss. Karen? You are upset that your insurance policy doesn't cover your anal bleaching? I will go suck my middle managers ballsack superiorly right away

I'm 19 high school drop out making 120 k doing hvac

>>510483309
Before of after the jew (taxes)?
Either way, good for you anon.

>>510481829
Giving me flashbacks to my days as an insulator. Modern "custom" homes are the biggest pieces of shit I've ever seen. There are maybe 2 builders in my town I'd trust to frame properly. Every other company hired the speediest but shittiest framers they could just to get as many homes up as they could. We'd almost always have to wait a week or more longer than what we were scheduled for because the framers, plumbers, roofers or sparkies fucked something major up. One company in particular would hire the shittiest roofers I've ever seen. Never used nails, always staples. And they'd always miss the rafters. Resulting in these shit houses losing half their roof in a mild to medium wind storm.

here in bc, british columbia for the unwashed the gubmint was honest once.
during the plandemic the population was divided in 2 classes
essential/non-essential
now everybody knows his worth
whoever was considered non-essential back then, during the plandemic, still is and will be non-essential
strangely enough, most trades were/are considered essential
there you have it
i have cut back a great deal having anything to do with non-essentials
so, that's how simple it is
are you essential or not?
if you were considered non-essential, i will avoid dealing with you as much as possible
fuck you.
cheers!

bwahahahaha
non-essential office slackers
fuck you

>>510480435
>work 60-70hr/wk

No amounts of money is worth this

who lifts mankind from stone age to our current civilization level?
think about it!
useless paper pushers
joooish daycare "jobs"
bwahahahahhaha

>>510477844 (OP)
You know what the trick of it is? Heres a protip: Owning the business

>>510483888
for a limited time it is ok
just put your nose to the grindstone to get things rolling
the main thing is really not get into the jooo claws, i.e. debt
keep your nose clean, no debt, do honest work and you will be golden in no time
3-5 years you have to grind it out, after that the work will come running to you, if you know what you are doing
be self employed, keep things small but good quality
t. old, experienced tradesman who has done well for himself
fuck useless jooo lickspittles

>>510477844 (OP)
>Why do tradies always lie about how much they make?
I know a tradie who got lucky and found a short term 1 month contract for some emergency work paying £100 per hour.

A tradie will then take this figure and pretend that lucrative contract work like this is always available and will just say that he earns £200k a year (£100x8x5x52).

Journeymen plumbers in Chicago make $60.50 an hour plus full benefits.

That’s 125.8k a year before overtime.

>>510477844 (OP)
>Why do tradies always lie about how much they make?
Because they want a cheap worker.

>>510477844 (OP)
To be fair, everyone here lies about how much they make
Fuck dude, I’ve seen fucking DoorDash drivers claim they make $45/hr LOL

>>510479573
>now the median please.
$63,215

I'm a anal plumber and I make 200 per second

>>510480435
That would be equivalent to $150k a year, that's still kinda shit considering all those hours lol.

>>510480997
$100k+ annually to avoid homelessness

>>510484510
>Journeymen plumbers in Chicago
>Chicongo
FUCK that.
Niggers do not deserve indoor plumbing.

>>510484260
Implying everyone can be an owner. Do you even think one step beyond your own delusions of grandeur?

>>510481684
They make another 30k easy cash off the books.
It's hilarious how wagies and office sucks can't even imagine unreported income.

>>510483888
>>work 60-70hr/wk
>No amounts of money is worth this
For once I agree with the fucking Fr*nch.
Actually, that’s just a dumb joke, the real Frenchmen and Frenchwomen can be based. Some great literature and philosophy, too. Keep up the snail-eating and the great cuisine generally, frog,

>>510477844 (OP)
You speak like anything with self respect would willingly want to be near you things

54 is below poverty level by the way

>>510477844 (OP)
Tradies work 4 hours and charge for 12.

>>510477844 (OP)
>Saars, I buy plumbing certificate from my cousin
>Saars, I'm best plumber why no one hire me
>Saars, its lie plumbers make no money
Lol, LMAO even

>>510483888
I'd do it for x months a year to get the rest of the year off (as merchant marine and such does). Too bad I have DQ health conditions.

>>510480935
You have to understand that 70k is what you see on tax returns. Smart tradies get paid in cash or do 1099 contracting, which means everything is tax deductible. So ... you pull in 70k on tax returns, about 30k in cash jobs, and you pay little to no income tax because you deduct a ton of expenses. Take home pay in that scenario would be about 30% more than some retarded software engineer making 100k. Also, you have stuff like inventory. So, you make $500 on a job, spend $400 on plumbing fixtures, you made only $100, but you hid about $400 in profit in inventory which means you now have $400 in assets but only made $100 for.tax purposes. Really good tradies can pull in the equivalent of about 200-300k in real profits if you actually add it up.

>>510490344
not according to any gov assistance program. Have to work part time 20 hrs at McDonalds to qualify for anything (or not be white)

>>510477844 (OP)
They need more fresh meat to work the hard labor under them

>>510481678
100k - medical expenses from your entire body falling apart for half your life = 50k

Tradesmen won't tell you this

>>510477844 (OP)
nigger half the "plumbers" are illegal mexican laborers they are making HALF of 50k at best

>>510491299
>100k - medical expenses from your entire body falling apart for half your life = 50k
What tradesmen also wont tell you is the labor isn't what kills their bodies. Tradies are typically alcoholics, most smoke/vape or use some form of tobacco products, and most blow their paychecks in strip clubs. Clean living isn't encouraged among the blue collar crowd. Avoid these kind of vices as a tradie and you are set.

>>510491692
>nigger half the "plumbers" are illegal mexican laborers they are making HALF of 50k at best
And while they are doing that, they pay no income tax. No state tax. No payroll tax. Their kids get free medical care through medicaid. They get free meals through head start. They get WIC and SNAP benefits. They get rental assistance. Wetbacks literally pull in more than white collar faggots when you consider how much they game the system.

>>510479412
least mad canook crying about tradies while he gets raped in Quebec by jeets and mudslimes with an inflation rate some how higher than americas

>>510480954
Don't do it, little kot! Smoking damages the lungs and you have a lot of playing and running to do.

>>510477844 (OP)
>it's another brownoid who doesn't know how averages work.

>all the wagies ITT trying to dab on the Trades
Your job will be replaced by AI soon and you can cry about my 6 figures salary alongside the artists and musicians we do not need anymore lol
This world belongs to Tradesmen, we run this shit and always have.

>>510477844 (OP)
80% of tards on this board lie about literally every aspect of their lives lol

>>510493264
96% percent of statistics are made up on the spot.