Seriously, no one ever talks about this, but what the fuck is going to happen to politics after Trump leaves office?
>everything in US politics revolves around Trump
>a lot of geopolitics revolves around Trump
>the entire republican party revolves around Trump and his policies
>the entire democrat party has no policies, just seething about Trump
>shills here don't even care what they're shilling, they're just seething about Trump
what the fuck happens when he leaves? the GOP goes back to being boring and the deomcrats have to actually get policies again which they don't have.

Here’s the hard truth: Trump isn’t just a political figure; he’s become the gravitational center of American politics. When he leaves the scene it leaves a vacuum, and vacuums in politics don’t last long.

there is no red/blue divide. Foreign and economic policies will not change.

>>510488300 (OP)
>what the fuck is going to happen to politics after Trump leaves

You mean after AOC is in charge? Not sure but there should be plenty of free gibs to go around.

>>510488895
>there is no red/blue divide
>i'm just really interested in supporting the blue part of the divide that doesn't exist though

>>510488300 (OP)
Also.. Trump’s statement in your photograph was both a declaration and a reaction. It reflects the anxieties of a political establishment facing a generational shift: while the political class clings to Cold War-era rhetoric, polls consistently show growing support for socialist policies among younger Americans, especially on healthcare, housing, and education.

>>510489031
did i mention domestic policy you jew?

>>510488300 (OP)
Who do you think Trump kneels to? Kikes. Who do you think Democrats kneel to? Kikes. Kikes will keep the show rolling, regardless of the president.

>>510488300 (OP)
>when he leaves
He will try to run again in 2028, even if not possible he will at the very least dominate the election cycle talking about it, wasting everyones time but keeping the attention on him. Vance will openly say a vote for him is a vote for Trump. No matter the outcome you will incessantly hear how Trump is behind everything, like how conservatives blame Obama for Biden and everything Democrats do to this day

>>510488300 (OP)
Irrelevance. The cult dissolves. The same that happened to Elon will happen to Trump.

>>510489131
He will be Vance's VP

>>510488300 (OP)
It doesn't matter. The 2 party system we have is designed to seesaw back and forth between big business (republicans) and big government (democrats) while fucking the citizens over. One party will pass bills supporting their preference and the next will gut tax cuts or spending plans but leave a few measures in creating a nightmare for the average citizen to understand through decades of frankenstein government.
Then Republicans will blame the economy being stalled with runaway inflation on Democrat policies passed by Biden and taking effect during trumps term and extending past it to win again in 2032 or 2036.
It's just the same loop on repeat and nothing will change until the government collapses.

>>510488300 (OP)
Another pedophile takes his place and the decay of this country happens either at an accelerated rate (democrat pedophile wins) or they pump the brakes barely, on the surface level while flagellating for their jewish masters (republican pedophile wins).

>>510488929
AOC is a complete joke, she's never even passed a single bill. She's just loud and would get absolutely BTFO in a national election worse than Kamala did.
I keep see her primarying Schumer though which would be kino.
>>510489147
No one voted for Elon ffs. Millions voted for Trump and it's up to each party to earn their votes.

>>510488300 (OP)
Lmao I don't think hes going anywhere. He'll be an advisor, cabinet member, or maybe even vice president.

>>510489541
Nah he wants to clearly be a king maker in the GOP. Right now it's Vance's party to lose in 2028.

>>510489284
Pay attention to this dude anons
Don’t forget it’s not left vs right it’s don’t think about the billionaires selling out the future and release the files

The Jew puppet show will continue with the next stooge following the Jew agenda of more theater and scripted nonsense to create division and issues to give the illusion of choice and that your vote counts but all we really get is just what the Jew masters want and suffer greatly for it...

>I'd rather defend Zionist paedophiles than be a socialist!
MIGA

>>510488300 (OP)
>Tonight we renew our resolve that America will never be a socialist country.
Remember this quote the next time some wall street banks or other jew business gets bailed out by the government

>>510489541
>advisor
There’s someone in politics more retarded than this obese golem that would want his “advice”?

>>510490138
>paedophile
forgot your VPN was on foreigner
>>510488895
>>510489109
>>510489284
>>510489842
ok but I'm going to vote for the side that doesn't want tranny surgeries for kids, mass illegal replacement migration, and anarcho-tyranny.

>>510488300 (OP)
Hopefully we get a socialist country I think that is pretty likely with how the gop is covering up the Epstein thing. The only question is will it be a nationalist socialist country or a democratic socialist country but the boomers are dying off no one else guzzles capitalist cum

>>510490308
Too bad you liberals have terrible policies that are revolting to anyone not brainwashed already

>>510490269
your cope is literally just left/right braindead bullshit. both sides are raping kids and trump is covering for them all, despite he and many in his admin promised to release the files

trump could rape a child on live tv and you'd defend it

>>510490771
but you support the left lol

>>510490372
Kek ok dumb nigger your party is collapsing because you are covering up for pedos only the most braindead nigger like you are trusting the plan. Im partial to the NS version personally but either way works for me

>>510490951
>hello fellow 4channel far right nazis
you can't admit your politics here because you'd be mocked off the board. it's so tiresome.

>>510488929
No one is ever gonna vote for AOC.

>>510490893
not everybody who is upset about the epstein files is a raving leftist. find better cope.

it doesnt bother you at all that trump campigned on this point and straight up lied about it? that he's covering for rapists?

>>510491336
you are a raving leftist though, you just hate trump. you're not even going to read the epstein files ffs

>>510490269
Its fine if voting makes you feel better. But red team is in no way better. Tranny surgery is more of a state issue, like abortion who cares if its banned in one state when a 3 or 4 hour drive at maximum gets you to a state that allows it. Republicans literally passed the immigration reform bill in 1965 which removed the favor to European and immigrants which can sustain themselves with an 85% yea rate on the vote along with literally doing nothing when Trump has had presidency twice to make meaningful change. Both sides are tyrannical as well. Republicans are more the boot of the government on your face tyrannical and democrats are more let nonwhites run wild tyranny.
I agreed with trump on what he talks about during campaign but obviously he has done the opposite of what he says so far in term 1 and 2. And he likely only has 2 years before 2026 election removes republican control. Just one example of tyranny is wanting to use the power to remove citizenship, it creates a dangerous precedent because it will go to supreme court and if allowed gives reasons to allow it in future for example to remove citizenship of evil right wing nazi.
We have more of an oilgarcy these days. If you want to win an election you need money or be backed by money. Money is used to remove you if you go against AIPAC on both sides. Individual stock investment is allowed to insider trade. If you have money you can abuse laws and pay a fraction of your profit in fines. You can bribe politicians to add benefits to your company in must pass omnibus bills. The average citizen should be pissed but this country's spirit has been dead since the 1800s.

>>510491403
>UR A LEFTIST
you didnt answer my question.

>>510491043
I want jews and non Whites removed from this country I want robust social safety nets for Whites and I want robust environmental protections for our air trees water and animals.

>>510488300 (OP)
>not socialist
>gibs for niggers and jews

Baka

>>510488300 (OP)
Biden will be revived to take his place.

>>510491499
>p-plz take me seriously
>>510491520
Families used to provide the safety net, not the government. Other than that I agree.

Civil wars are pretty much inevitable. What’s weird is we don’t have by really charismatic military leaders fighting for power. If our Julius Caesar is going to be some faggy tech oligarch that is just going to be so gay.

TDS turds will mass suicide.

>>510488300 (OP)
Either the two major parties adapt or die. I'm hoping everyone ditched banning abortion as a platform. It's a position that only grows more unpopular every election.

>>510488300 (OP)
>They told me to say this but I never heard of social jism

>>510491694
nice reply, Pedofag

>>510491403
The Epstein files? What are those?

>>510489284
Nothing ever happens until suddenly everything happens at once

>>510491690
That's such a nonsensical talking point. Without Trump the left legitimately has no energy and without Trump the right calms down and focuses on policy. The left will have nothing to fucking do without Trump. It's how the fundraise, message, and react. They don't actually have any policies LOL, it's just anti trump rhetoric and seething.
>>510491808
Abortion hasn't been a thing since Roe V Wade was overturned; but the right legitimately died on the hill of abortion until recently. EVERY issue they cared about was lost to the left while they fought to overturn roe v wade.

>>510491690
Ju C wasn’t so charismatic. He was a good general. It wasn’t popularity that made him emperor it was his soldiers who he ordered to stab everyone who got in the way.
In fact he was a lack of charisma yo match his ego that got him stabbed a lot in the end too.

>>510489251
cant do that

>>510491909
If nothing ever happens, then everything is always happening.

>>510491682
not everybody upset with child sex trafficking being covered up by a president who campaigned on it is a leftist. i voted for trump and im upset that none of the campaign promises have materialized culminating in him refusing to release the epstein files and arming ukraine over the course of 3 days. keep up with the leftist cope shit all you want but you're defending zionist paedophiles because your brain is left/right rotted and you're too stupid to see it

I was listening to roman military history yesterday. So i’m the expert today.

>>510491520
You want but you won’t get

>>510491968
Always has been.

>>510489049
It’s the worst I had ever seen even to the point of dragging Hulk Hogan out. And now new GOP polls (gaslighting?} may have her beat Cruz by 20 points.

>>510491495
>red team is in no way better
it's just objectively false lol. I'm an independent but I vote for the red team because they're objectively not insane.
>>510491981
>I hate drumpf and shill the current thing
ok. also
>paedophiles
turn off your vpn

>>510491682
Well jews fucked up the family structure so at the very least we need those robust social safety nets for a few generations to stimulate the American people while those structures can be built back. We need time to reverse the damage so abandoning our people and telling them to figure it out is not a sustainable solution. In a perfect world we can discuss cutting back some of those saftey nets after the damage has been reversed. Plus there will be lots of confiscated wealth from jews to fund such projects

>>510492118
>bombed Iran
>escalated the war in ukraine
>won't deport all illegals
>will import infinity jeets
>won't release the epstein files
its spelled paedophile you retard

>>510488300 (OP)
It was the same with Obongonigger for the dems. The Hulkster and the Iron Sheik might retire, but the marks will still fill the stands and clap for the new face and boo at the new heel. You’ll still be ruled by pedophiles in tiny hats.

>>510488300 (OP)
Before Trump it was fucking Jeb Bush
They are just going to return to milquetoast losers again

>>510492013
I used to think that but the way things are going I don’t see much of a future for kikes here. The young people certainly don’t see a future for them here either so I think I will get what I want it’s just a matter of time

>>510488300 (OP)
vance 2028 continues Trump policies over two presidential terms

>>510492334
>groyper
>>510492436
I can see Vance taking over in 2028 and trying to be the calm version of Trump with the same policies. It could be effective but just so fucking boring.

>>510492468
Boomers need to die out. Boomers have been oppressing the world for decades now. Until that happens nothing will change, but sadly they're not going to die out for at least 20 years.

>>510492581
i was a leftist, now im a groyper? you're getting your cope mixed up

>>510492735
>implying there's a difference

>>510492118
I guess it depends on what you want at the end of the day to which team you want better. I want a white country which is for whites with policies that benefit whites only. I guess if you just want to exist then Republicans let you feel better about that as long as you ignore the slow march of the rich trampling on you instead of taxing excess wealth to benefit the white race. Neither team is contributing to my ideal so I pray for the collapse of this country to hopefully build a country for whites.

>>510492874
>excess wealth
that doesn't even have a real meaning

>>510488300 (OP)
>the entire democrat party has no policies, just seething about Trump
You only this because you're a retard who doesn't actually look into politics beyond rage bait.

>>510489031
You rape kids and/or support child rapists (conservatives), kys

>>510493430
Enlighten the thread democrat, name 5 policies you people have.

>>510488300 (OP)
"seething"
Oh so you're a dumb piece of shit then. Ok.

>>510493334
It does. If you have enough money to create private equity funds with the intent of purchasing business to extract wealth but bankrupting the business then you have excess wealth. If a business is focused on shareholder profit instead of improving business or increasing employee earnings then they are corrupt and ran by an economic mindset instead of functional. A state exist to benefit the citizens not citizens existing to benefit the state. And if wealth is actively harming the average citizen because of the wealth (runaway debt and inflation to subsidize business and government) then wealth is an issue. Again, different viewpoints and ideals in the world so we have different opinions on the matter. The difference is my opinion is correct and morally justified by wanting a singular country for the white race in a world of hundreds which are not for this.

>>510493964
that has nothing to do with the amount of wealth you have, that's just business practices that wouldn't be done in a high trust society.

>>510494103
Correct. High trust society only exist in singular race countries. And my ideals would be a singular race country. I dont really understand how you are undermining my point you are agreeing with it.

>>510494219
>I dont really understand how you are undermining my point you are agreeing with it.
I was agreeing and refining it desu. We had a high trust society even with minorities here until it was deliberately subverted.

Politics is a soap opera go keep you from organizing and retaking your country from the jews
"It's heckin on tv it must be true!"

>>510494304
Mexicans and muslims need to be deported

Every 40 years in America sees a president who comes along and so profoundly reshapes the political landscape that the subsequent administrations are reactions or continuations of their policies.
>1780s: George Washington
>1820s: Andrew Jackson
>1860s: Abraham Lincoln
>1900s: Teddy Roosevelt
>1940s: FDR
>1980s: Ronald Reagan
>2020s: Donald Trump
The present dynamic today will continue for the next thirty years or so, with presidents either reacting against Trump or attempting to continue his policies, like with Obama/Bush.

>>510488300 (OP)
I am voting for a progressive that will tax the fuck out of these rich fags. Im willing to deal with troons if it means richfags get cucked

>>510496408
>a liberal is voting for a liberal
no way

>>510496538
I voted for trump twice. I realize now the problem isnt left vs right. Its rich vs poor

>>510496649
>Former trump supporter here. ngl it's pretty hilarious watching him crash and burn. seriously though we can't let him get his hands on the nuclear codes
ok

>>510496688
it must blow your smooth nigger brain that my opinion has changed over time. fucking cult faggot

>>510497041
>YOU'RE IN LE CULT
>but yea former drumpf voter
you people are just silly.

>>510496408
>Im willing to deal with troons if it means richfags get cucked

It will never happen in the globohomo system. They’ll promise to tax the rich, but they’ll tax you, and use the proceeds to make trannies and ship in illegals.
>t. Voted Dem like a retard for years

>>510496649
>I realize now the problem isnt left vs right. Its rich vs poor

It’s the globohomo jews vs those Americans that actually care about the country. You sound like a retard lefty trying to sell us on communism or something

>>510488300 (OP)
4chan is spend. The energy is gone. Understandable. This eppstein shit is way above even 4chans head haha its still funny to watch this squirming going on but this is unironically the end. 4chan needs to backoff on this its getting out of hand, were playing with the big boys now and were getting outplayed, we dont know whats real anymore

>>510488300 (OP)
>virtue signaling about muh socialism of all things
>as modern jewish capitalism destroys everything in sight
just axe all medicare, medicaid, social security and other government programs already so the retards who put this retard in power and their subhuman spawn can all die off for good

>>510488300 (OP)
There will be one less pedophile in Washington.

>>510488791
nah, our system is resistant to cults of personality. we'll have someone else come along. do you have any idea how genuinely popular obama was?

>>510488791
>chatgpt, give me the most chatgpt response imaginable

>>510488300 (OP)
dems will spend the next 20 years campaigning on the need to reverse all the damage they will claim he has done to the world

>>510496649
It's beaurocrats vs everyone else

>>510497318
>It’s the globohomo jews vs those Americans that actually care about the country.
we are talking about the same thing but here you are picking fights on nuisances. the rich, the elite..etc = jews or jew affiliated. jews run the american financial empire, so rich = shabbos goys in one way or another.
why am I even explaining myself to you? got vote for your orange kike, idgaf
>>510497083
>you people are just silly.
the site used to be great before you miga niggers got kicked out of 109 websites and came here. eat a bag of foreskins nigger, still not supporting trump

>>510497971
shut the fuck up you liberal faggot no one has, does, or ever will like you freaks

>>510496688
Nah I agree with that guy and I guarantee you I’m more right wing than you since I want TKD and TND. I just know neither side is gonna give us that and they’re both in bed with pedophiles and they’re all being blackmailed by the same Israelis. So I’m just gonna vote for more gibs until the country inevitably collapses

>>510498126
>hey I'm larping like a caricature of /pol/, i'm super right wing and also hate drumpf
silly

>>510498216
You don’t see a problem with politicians covering up for pedophilia and blackmail because you’re an evil coward. This isn’t about muh left vs. right. This is about our system being fundamentally compromised and broken

>>510498048
fantastic argument from an emotional pedo protector

>>510498311
>look at me I'm shilling the current thing I hate drumpf vote for kamala
do better

Why the Epstein shit matters to people on the right

>>510488300 (OP)
>>510488791
Trump leaving office is a metaphor for Boomers dying off. A huge power vacuum will arise when Boomers are fully gone. Will your side win? What even is your side?

>>510488300 (OP)
The jews will continue to rule, just as they did before and during Trump's terms in office.

>>510488300 (OP)
Who cares?

Yes, I'm aware you have many questions, and are anxious about your future. But consider for a moment: It doesn't matter.

>>510498512
I genuinely don't think a boomer will be president again after trump. he'll actually be the last boomer president especially if someone younger like Vance or a young dem wins in 2028 no way people go back to some 80 year old boomer.

>>510498695
boomer is a jewish mindset. boomers were simply mostly this mindset because they never experienced adversity in their entire lives. There are plenty of people who can be the new boomers. Like Vance. Great example. Another jewish boomer ready and willing to serve jews. This one has a bonus nigger bloodline.

>>510489049
Your meme is retarded.
Why do retard leftists like you understand the concept of White supremacy and White privilege, but completely fail to comprehend the phenomenon as it exists among Jews?

You complain all the time about White's holding disproportionate power in colonial countries, yet see nothing wrong with a tiny minority group like Jews dominating the film industry, the legal profession, banking, wall street, fucking politics. Stein, berg, witz, baum, whatever man clearly this is White supremacy at work here, pay no attention to the fucking Jews. They just work really hard and are super smart unlike White people, obviously. That what the Jews who demand you dismantle White supremacy tell you anyway right?

Ever notice there are so many Whites calling out White privilege, yet NO JEWS CALLING OUT JEW PRIVILEGE? Ever wonder about that? Ever wonder why there are no Jews calling for Jews specifically and not Whites to give up power? Never strikes you as the least bit odd as they call for removing Whites from power while insisting that exceptions be made for them?

>>510488300 (OP)
I'm enjoying things while they are in my favor. 2029 and beyond is going to be bumpy

>>510491925
>They don't actually have any policies LOL, it's just anti trump rhetoric and seething.
Fucking kek.
All you have is anti-dem rhetoric and seething.
That's all any of your "policies" boil down to retard.
You are everything you accuse the other side of being.

>>510499450
It's hard to believe that everything you just posted is projection. Hard to do but well done.

>>510488300 (OP)
>what the fuck happens when he leaves?
Dont worry anon.
WW3 is on the horizon.
And so is the draft.

>>510489049
Socialism, capitalism, and Communism are all invented by; JUDAISM

>>510499922
I got drafted like 10 times last week bro, even died for Israel like 5 times

>>510488300 (OP)
Trump presidency was planned for 10+ years. Give our elites time to bring their new puppet out. It is going to be a smooth transition. You will even forget that you asked so stupid question.

>>510499979
>even died for Israel like 5 times
Thats definitely not enough patriotism on your part.

>>510488300 (OP)
Place your bets now, trump third term or vance-rubio 2028? Its about equal odds for both.

>>510500498
You can tell Trump doesn't want a 3rd term because of how fast he's moving right now. If Trump was seriously about a 3rd term, he would've went slow in this term.

AI will make bureaucracy obsolete overnight. The voting population will stop being idiots blindly believing shit said on the campaign trail as if it is a binding contract. Entire cities will be running by technology and things will get done under budget on time with zero corruption.
And then I woke up.

>>510490308
god I hope I live to see you people sent to El Salvador

>>510488300 (OP)
>>a lot of geopolitics revolves around Trump
Trump's USA is unreliable and untrustworthy
Euros, Canada, Australia, and others dramatically reduced their reliance on the US and strengthened ties with others.

if/when the US dollar loses reserve currency status there will be a quick transition to a post-USA world

>>510500498
>trump third term
naw
he's looting the country for the billionaires
if he wanted to get elected again, he'd do something for real Americans

>>510496649
what party do you think most NY investment bankers are? how about corporate lawyers or coders? I'll give you a hint, they all went to places that Trump is trying to shut down for antisemitism.

>>510488300 (OP)
AF will centre around Massie, the Massie Massive as it will be coined.

Margery Taylor Green and her Green Shirts.

The populist movement will be so great that Jew will make their last move which fails and a new leader will emerge from the ashes and vow revenge like Pharoah as the tribe scrambles for Israel now protected by Russia.

But I don't want to spoil the whole story.

>>510503472
Once Trump is gone the populist movement will get folded back into the GOP like it was after the 2014 "Big Red Wave" and after the Tea Party Movement got fucked by Obama.
All the GOP ever wanted to do was play controlled oppositional doormat to the Democrats, but then Trump had to go and fuck that up with MAGA.

>>510503005
>what party do you think most NY investment bankers are?
You think the elite put their support behind people based on their party affiliation? My brother in Christ, they give money to both sides, at the same time. The elite are smart and look at each candidate individually, they have no party loyalty.
Meanwhile we are purposely kept divided with ridiculous social issues as a distraction while they loot, rape and pillage our country.

>>510489049
>polls consistently show growing support for socialist policies among younger Americans, especially on healthcare, housing, and education
yeah no shit, if people can't get jobs to pay for that stuff anymore than the only option left is to convince the government to provide it for them

>>510503472
>AF will centre around Massie, the Massie Massive as it will be coined.
Massie represents what trump claimed to be. He's like an authentic version of trump and I say that as someone that doesnt always agree with him.
Voters want a real nigga, not these fake ass crypto jew zionists, thats why you see that hood negrees in TX rising up, same with AOC.
I aint voting again I see another real nigga in the race

>>510488300 (OP)
Socialism is the only thing that could make the US into a livable and modern country, but Americans will never accept this simple fact. They exist to serve oligarchs.

>>510503931
While I agree with you wholeheartedly, the people that want to rise up against this system do no want to return authority to the constitution, or liberate the masses. They want to install their own system, instead. Fuck class warfare for that very reason. No, I'm not going to be a communist.

>>510504130
>While I agree with you wholeheartedly, the people that want to rise up against this system do no want to return authority to the constitution, or liberate the masses.
This is why our true savior must rise up outside of the system. That can only happen if the system is busy with something else. This is what makes happenings so fun

>>510488300 (OP)
America will absolutely become socialist, national socialist.

Trump and Biden are both pedophiles, the third position is unavoidable.

>>510504110
oh yea socialism really ended well for your country and all the countries around it yea?

>>510503931
I mean yea man Jamie Dimon and the other elites really running stuff are certainly like that, but the grunts that are actually running the companies are just people who went to good colleges because those are the elite jobs in our society. They are predominantly liberal.

>>510504103
>voters want a real nigga
>AOC

>>510488300 (OP)
It'll just become about blaming Trump for their own failures to move forward. 100 years from now democrats will say "we'd be living in a utopia if not for Trump!" Republicans will screech about how Trump ruined them for some vague reason and how they'll never reach the same highs again. EU will continue to be bitches and whine about how Trump has permanently damaged relations and that's why they can't do anything anymore.

I'm pretty sure republicans are going to try to run either cruz or rubio to capitalize on the "conservative catholic latino" vote, which will completely devastate the patriotic ethnonationalist faction that was powering MAGA. On the other hand they may have a better chance of winning than the Democrat party, who resemble an oreo being peeled apart. In the long run both parties will run latinos, faith in the political system will collapse, and anarcho tyranny will take over the cities a la CHAZ.

>>510488300 (OP)
communism

>>510504103
Shut the fuck up you wigger traitor bitch.

>>510504358
>oh yea socialism really ended well for your country and all the countries around it yea?
Yes. You just fell for the American psyops, your rulers (oligarchs) have a vested interest in keeping you in forever poverty, so they shill against socialism.

>>510504653
Types like breakroom.

>>510504714
>it was all a huge psyop! communism didn't actually suck!
lol
lmao even
people like you aren't even human

>>510488300 (OP)
Has Donald Trump done anything different than Joe Biden? He spent 4 trillion dollars, is continuing both the Ukraine and war in Gaza, continues to refuse to release the Epstine list, and has not deported any more illegals than Joe Biden. The only thing different with Trump is the rhetoric and optics. So why would it matter if someone else comes along and continues the polices that started before he was President?

>>510488791
You mean some evil bastard is gonna come along and all the MAGA followers will flock to him simply because he's not on team blue?

>>510504786
Communism and socialism aren't the same thing, which you would know if your masters haven't indoctrinated you.

Socialism is the only winning political model. All others have failed. Your system, the oligarchy, is the worst one there is. You just got psyopped into believing otherwise because all actual solutions (socialism) have been demonized because Musk needs another yacht.

>>510488300 (OP).

Vance wins.

>>510503472
Libertarianism will never take off nationally. People want social safety nets, not tax cuts for billionaires. You don't have to like it, but it is the truth. All libertarians ever end up doing is taking away these safety nets from White people, while Democrats make sure that non-Whites get taken care of.

>>510488300 (OP)
>promises to never be socialist
>rolls back 1970s conservative policy
Nixon made the EPA. Fighting socialism while the finance industry eats us alive doesn't make sense unless he's working for the finance industry. How many billionaires on a presidential cabinet is a normal amount? Obama had 1, Biden had 0. Trump has 13. Peter Thiel owns Vance, making him a finance stoog.

>>510488300 (OP)
You're stuck with the new imports and you're just going to have to deal with it. See early 20c America. You're going to get "socialism" in the form of ethnic appropriation, but you should be used to that.

>>510504946
If you read Das Kapital, then you'd know that Marx said Socialism was the transitional period to Communism. But you illiterate retards shill for a product without having read the manual.
Don't ever insult another nation's education system when you're little more than an ignorant, useful idiot savage.

>>510504848
>I hate bloompf
go away already

>>510505018
All I know is I have a social safety net, free healthcare, free education and that it's impossible for me to fail at life. You have a wooden house, crushing debt for a degree that's worth jackshit and if anything ever happens to you and requires healthcare you'll go bankrupt and end up in the street or a coffin.

Again - socialism is the only winning system, everything else is unworthy of man.

>>510504981
that's not true, the libertarians are also why Trump decided to pardon Ross Ulbricht. That's their lasting political legacy: pardoning a drug dealer kek

>>510504499
you can dislike her, she is very dis-likeable after all, but she is a real nigga. wouldnt expect a fake woman like you to understand what a real nigga is but now you know.
>>510504653
>Shut the fuck up you wigger traitor bitch.
nigga im not in your gay little cult, calling me a traitor means fuck all to me.
>>510504358
when im talking about rich vs poor, im really talking about super rich people vs everyone else, the people that have actual power, im not talking about ceos and shit. I see this country as a capalist for thee, socialist for me oligarchy. If you need proof of that just let me remind you of the 2008 bailouts where we got foreclosed on and they got bailed out only to buy back their own stock shares. We need to be single issue voters and the issue should be: whatever takes power away from them and gives it back to us (aka take their money)

The ultimate failure of multiculturalism is proven by the USA breaking down into ethnic voting blocs. The republicans will become whites + latinos, and the democrats will become latinos + blacks. The democrats benefit from having the backing of groups with higher birth rates and an infinite well of foreign immigrants to draw from. All European countries will turn further and further left because their nonwhite groups have higher birthrates and an infinite well of immigrants, who will all support the left wing because it's anti authoritarian and therefore anti white. This will keep furthering until the white race is completely devastated enough that someone pulls their head out of their ass and creates an ethnostate or dictatorship. But no one can deny that the West's democracy is turning into a political tug of war between various ethnic groups which is the ultimate proof that multiculturalism doesn't work.

>>510505018
>If you read Das Kapital, then you'd know that Marx said Socialism was the transitional period to Communism. But you illiterate retards shill for a product without having read the manual.
have you been to his country? how do you knows ours is better? if marx said socialism is a transition to communism, then I would assume he probably also said capitalism is a transition into socialism, right? then wtf is your argument?

>>510505221
>But no one can deny that the West's democracy is turning into a political tug of war between various ethnic groups which is the ultimate proof that multiculturalism doesn't work.
Nice fiction. You're projecting your politics onto Europe, which has nothing to do with your nonsense. Only the stupid are right wing, the rest is bullshit.

>>510505187
I would say that in China they don't have a social safety net but that China shows much more promise of existing in 200 years than Western Europe does. This social safety net makes people weak, and it also attracts parasites. One of the biggest reasons America is collapsing is the strong welfare system in the cities allowing subsaharan apes to thrive. They get paid by the state to have babies.

>>510505187
>crushing debt for a degree that's worth jackshit and if anything ever happens to you and requires healthcare you'll go bankrupt and end up in the street or a coffin.
Imagine believing all the stupid shit you read on the internet. Enjoy your proto-communism, you retarded nigger. No wonder Eastern Europe is so shitty.

>>510505328
You aren't human. You will not use God's gift of speech to communicate with me, you communist dog.

His incessant lying really is entertaining.

>>510489284
>big government (democrats)
how do retards here still believe republicans are not big government? They didn't slash spending at all you fucking morons.

>>510488300 (OP)
He'll be replaced by some other Israel promoted puppet.

>>510505018
Marx was worthless though.
Does no good to describe a system that can only be predicated on infinite resources.

Even then hoarding and corruption could still occur to enforce scarcity, look at diamond mining.

We need practical people like engineers to create more wealth, not deadbeats and freeloaders making up shit in coffee shops and from behind their computers.

In the meantime it's fine to chase these people out of politics because they believe in stupid things that don't actually work.
If leftists said specific things like reform the actual industry of healthcare, or reform the actual industry of picking crops via technology, transparency, accountability I'd respect them more, but they are all empty wooden heads screaming repetitive things about muh poor immigrants.

A democrat literally cannot promote real transparency and accountability because so many of them exist on middle management and government makework bullshit.

>>510505430
>You aren't human. You will not use God's gift of speech to communicate with me, you communist dog.
thats a weird way to concede an argument. but alright, a scalp is a scalp

>>510505328
He doesn't grasp that we tried communism and it didn't work, but socialism does. It works everywhere, fucking everywhere IF the government is competent. The issue is that to Americans the false image of socialism is perpetually shilled in the form of South American failures (of government) rather than successful models of say Norway or Sweden or Switzerland. This is intentional.

>>510505345
I think it's pretty stupid to see politics in "wings." Taliban and MAGA have a lot of the same conservative opinions, but they would vote for opposite parties. That is why radical Islamists in the UK vote labour alongside feminists and communists. Croatia does not have a mass migration problem but a lot of us see the template for the future of the West in Yugoslavia, a bunch of hostile ethnic groups forced to share a government which will eventually split.

>>510488300 (OP)
Vance takes over and we get Peter thiel style oligarchy with a Palantir surveillance state. checkem

>>510505486
Their problem is that these morons think it's "moral" to enforce systems they know will fail because it's the "right thing to do."
They're worse than the Republicans who will refuse to fight the left on even footing, despite knowing they'll lose and the nation will die because of it.

I hate these people so fucking much, you have no idea. Stupidity is evil, and these command economies and massive centralized bureaucracies never work as they claim they will. People always suffer. They always die. Hell, look in Europe right now with the AfD and other right wing movements. Europe is imploding, and they're doing everything they can to stop the people from voting for a solution to the problem. Once you give power to leftists, they never relinquish it, no matter how bad things get.

They aren't people and should be treated as such.

>>510488300 (OP)
Wtf are you talking about? He left office before and the earth continued spinning. Pull your tongue out of his orange fatass for two seconds you retarded migakike faggot.

>>510505377
>This social safety net makes people weak, and it also attracts parasites.
It doesn't. It actually spurs competition because it's human nature to compete and outdo the other, socialism just makes it harder or impossible to fail so utterly you cannot rebuild your life. You have to be a collosal fuckup like a heroin junkie or similar not to succeed in Europe. The paradox is obvious but it's real - in your oligarch system and raw capitalism people fight out of desperation, fear, and agony. In socialism people fight because they look themselves in the mirror and say "I can do better, I am better." The presence of safety nets and such makes you optimistic and eager to apply yourself WITHOUT FEAR.

>I would say that in China they don't have a social safety net but that China shows much more promise of existing in 200 years than Western Europe does.
Debatable, but I concede that they are winning bigtime. But it only adds fuel to my argument - in China the oligarchs and such are fully and 100% subservient to the central authority of the CCP. It's not a system like yours where a Musk or Gates or Zuckerberg can dictate anything. In China, those bitches are made to obey like Jack Ma did.

>>510505386
>No wonder Eastern Europe is so shitty.
We're genuinely rich as fuck at this point. Are you from the 1970s?

>>510505504
some degree of socialism is required to maintain an otherwise capitalist economy simply because over time money tends to consolidate into a few players hands simply due to the nature of investing.
so yeah, if you want to keep your capitalist society, you have to handicap the rich a bit so they cant grow and take over the goverment which is what we are currently dealing with here in the US

>>510505486
>believe in stupid things that don't actually work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p93w7MpbZRw

>>510505803
I think the West's socialism + democracy will result in it getting btfo by tough foreign hordes. I think China's a more sustainable model because I think their autocracy is more resilient and their lack of a safety net both keeps their people tough (unlike soft westerners) and repels potential foreign parasites (muslims blacks and jeets). I think the Chinese system of a libertarian autarkic autocracy is more similar to the traditional feudal European kingdom. One of the worst things about the welfare state is I think it coddles the weak while hampering the strong and I think that's a big part of why so many Europeans are basedboys.

>>510506154
>I think the West's socialism + democracy will result in it getting btfo by tough foreign hordes.
its called national socialism mein nigger

>>510488791
Trump is a joke kek, maybe when people still believed in him he was significant but his legacy now is protecting pedophiles and passing a shitty budget bill.

>>510504572
Damn... What about any of that is supposed to be bad again?

>>510488929
AOC is not even nearly qualified to run the epicenter of jewish power. Actually, fuck it; I hope she does win so that Russia or China has an easier time invading this dump.

>>510488300 (OP)
>>510488300 (OP)
>Seriously, no one ever talks about this, but what the fuck is going to happen to politics after Trump leaves office?
A civil war. I don’t see any other outcome, both sides are unwilling to compromise anymore, everything is framed as win/lose through a partisan lens and naked power is the only thing keeping politicians in line.

Once the Dems win 2028 we’ll be in such poor economic conditions it won’t really matter who wins anyway, even if Trump was made king our lives will still get progressively worse.

The only solace we can take is that most of us will be dead by 2030 and the pain will be over at least.

>>510505204
>pardoning a drug dealer kek
If you understand the way the case was built against him you’d take this much more seriously.

>no one ever
Uh huh. I've seen multiple threads on here and plenty of posts elsewhere about how after Trump, the leftists are going to swing back the pendulum HARD, like a game of tetherball. So, just imagine the most insane spiteful humiliation rituals you can think of--that is America's future.