A Honda HRV costs $40k, an Accord costs $45k, and a CRV costs $55k. This is not sustainable

>>510503808 (OP)
yes it is chud. dont like it? start your own car company.

>>510503808 (OP)
Should have invested in public transit chud

>>510503808 (OP)
A chink Tesla costs $8k but it has the same tech and specs of $80k cars

>>510503808 (OP)
Without trumps tarriff tax they would each be 20k less

>>510503808 (OP)
How much do you make net, anon?

>>510503808 (OP)
Those all seem like pretty reasonable prices.

A ~650cc motorcycle will cost 10k new and 5k used, will get 50+mpg (better than all cars), accelerate faster than 80% of vehicles on the road, and cost half as much and be much easier to maintain
The world does not need more wheelpods. Ban single occupancy cars on public roads, they are an abomination.

>>510504322
Death trap

>>510503808 (OP)
why do you have to leave your hut?
what's out there for you so far from your hut?
what's so important out there that needs your attention, big man?
why don't you just stay in your hut and stop talking so big?

i dont have a car - cost zero

haha just kidding i spend thousands on uber please kill me

>>510504127
Move to China, then. Faggit.

>>510504322
Even though you're a bike zealot there is an element of truth here.
But it's not an option for everyone, or for every application. If you've ever tried to get by only with a bike for all your needs you'd know that.

>>510503808 (OP)
New cars suck ass anyway just buy good years and pirate factory service manuals.

>>510503808 (OP)
Did you buy all the dealer-added junk or something?
Because none of them start even close to that.

>>510504322
I own a motorcycle and it isn't year round transportation

In the mid 20th century we felt comfortable leaping into cars because everyone assumed prosperity would increase infinitely forever. But one of the biggest downsides of car infrastructure is that it's extremely difficult to downgrade to a different system if prosperity ever decreases. A streetcar infrastructure for instance can safely downgrade to bicycles and walking if for some reason the streetcars can't be run anymore (which itself is unlikely), those methods will be more annoying but they'll still work. But a subdivision and strip mall infrastructure is so spread out that it can only be traversed by car, so if the cars ever become too expensive to own and operate (which can happen easily), the society simply ceases to function.

It's a system that fundamentally lacks resilience compared to walkable infrastructure based around trains for long-range travel. When prosperity decreases America can't just safely become poorer, it has to suddenly and violently fall apart.

>>510503808 (OP)
yeah its crazy because the median salary is 50k. you need to work a year to afford a car not mention insurance, fuel and maintenance costs

>>510503808 (OP)
New cars are for rich people.
You get a hand-me-down with seats a stranger has been farting into for years.

>it isn't sustainable because i personally can't afford it

>>510505148
Maybe in the freezing arctic north.
I commute every day on my bike, in all weather. It ranges from roughly 0C to 40C here.

Buy an old shitbox and learn 2 wrench. You will actually enjoy driving when it isn't a soulless commuter.

>>510503808 (OP)
Those are mildly priced for new reliable cars?

>>510504245
They're not. Interest rates are through the stratosphere, and dealerships have so much inventory they aren't even making deals like they used to. That Accord used to be 25K just 5 years ago. You'll be paying $600-700+ a month. For a mid tier vehicle. You can forget about owning an Acura unless you make 100K a year.

And if you think this is bad, the used car market will give you daymares.

Just owning a car is becoming rich people shit.

>>510505370
This was true 15 years ago. Now that same shitbox that was $500 has 100k more miles, 15 years older, and cost $5000. I feel bad for high school kids, I use to buy a car for a single paycheck working minimum wage when I was 16.

>>510503808 (OP)
You could lease one of those and pay it off for the rest of your life.

>>510505425
How many hours of work do you reckon it would take for you to make your own car? You know, mining/producing materials from scratch?

We would all love for things to be cheaper, but it’s sort of a miracle these things are already this cheap.

>>510505425
Financing a car isn't a good idea.
If you can't afford it, either buy a cheaper car or buy something pre-owned.

>>510504322
So fvcking zased
>>510504372
Pussy
>>510504504
You can easily shove a week’s worth of groceries in a backpack and tank bag, and those physically unable to operate a motorcycle really shouldn’t be on the road to begin with.
In a sane society, people who have to take Kayden and Brayden to lacrosse practice would be allowed to have nothing larger than a Camry/Accord or equivalent, and you should need a CDL to own a pickup or tow anything.

Cash for Clunkers ruined this country. In high school around 2007 you could buy a decent used car that would last years for literally $800. Gen Z is so fucked it's not even funny.

>>510504322
you're just asking to get killed by either a boomer, a drunk or a retarded beaner who will probably be drunk, too.

>>510505597
>a backpack and tank bag
Take the topboxpill. They're so good.

>>510505578
>Let them eat cake!
You really have no idea what it's like for people out there.

>>510503808 (OP)
and obama killed all the good used cars.

>>510503808 (OP)
Honda has always tacked on 10k more than the vehicle they tried to copy (goyota vehicles usually). Sounds like its 20k more now. Just buy used, the mandatory safety bullshit on new vehicles are a dealbreaker. You'll know within the first week of buying, try renting one of these hunks of plastic shit before buying and you'll be running to the used market.

>>510503808 (OP)
Honda is overpriced just get a Toyota.

>>510505774
Every poor person that I know is only poor because they're stupid.

>>510506002
You must be pretty poor then, Bruce.

>>510505992
Toyota is even more expensive

>>510505369
Do you own a motorcycle?

>>510506149
You can find $21K cars on a Toyota lot, good luck with that with a Honda.

It's what you get for trying to pull manufacturing out of cheap China to the expensive US. And tarrifs.....

>>510505919
my sisters subaru is stupid as fuck.
>pull into driveway automatic braking slams the brakes 3ft behind parked car. still in the street so i hit the gas and it violently lunges
a lesser man wouldnt have had the reaction time and wouldve slammed into the car
>merging off road away from a stoplight i dont need to deal with. car starts beeping like a fagget flashing shit all over the dash like im going to ram the stopped car 50ft ahead in another fucking lane
>auto "lane maintain assist" aggressively fights steering input to the point of causing opposite of desired input
i dont want or fucking need my engine to turn off when i come to a stop sign
>GOD
>DAMNED
>FUCKING
>TOUCH
>FUCKING
>SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSS
AIDS
its all AIDS and i have 0 hope for the future. 2BQFH
i dont give a fuck if you can take 10 seconds every time you start the fucking car and turn all that shit off. it should be off by default actually it shouldnt be in it at all. some dumb bitch wants all that dumb shit they can pay extra

>>510506310
Despite the sign saying "no motorbikes", there is actually a motorcycle in that picture.

>>510506460
Do you own one or just a picture of one?

>>510505992
Honda has at least a little bit of soul, most Toyotas are boring as fuck.

>>510505464
This isn't talked about enough. How is a 2000 Ford Ranger $3000? The vehicle is 25 fucking years old. People who take Kelley Blue Book seriously are actual goyim morons.

There should be a law that any mass produced car can't be sold over $2000 after 20 years. Just call it "antique vehicle standard deduction tax" or some shit, and people won't think it's communism.

>>510505992
>just get a Toyota
Hyundai, but right idea

>>510506564
Where are you going with this?

>>510506790
The government would do cash for clunkers again and all vehicles in that category would vanish for $2100.

>>510504127
unironically BYD and Great Wall motors cars are superior quality than anything to have ever rolled out of Detroit. Its frightening how well they are put together. Speaking as someone who works for the Big Three. There is a reason they are banned, we couldn't compete. A base model would cost less that $5000 USD and gets 400 miles a charge. Its fit and finish are seamless and reliability reports from markets say nothing but positive things

>>510503808 (OP)
Toyota Hilux Champ starts at like $13k. Of course it's blocked from being sold here so the American nigger car industry can try to sell their $80k+ shit boxes.

>>510505156
This is only an Anglosphere problem. Every big city in the rest of the world is walkable.

>>510507170
BYD Han flagship would retail for 5k before taxes and fee's if they could enter the market.

>>510504322
Nigger you know full well you aren't commuting to work on that thing every day. Let alone buying groceries etc.

>>510507097
OMG for me?? You're a darling!

>>510507326
Groceries are definitely much harder than commuting. I get most of my groceries in my car, but that's because I'm shopping for my entire family. If I was single and had some panniers, shopping on the bike would be very easy.

>>510507326
It's possible but it sukkkks.

>>510506875
>Hyundai

What if you're not black or mexican

Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.

>>510503808 (OP)
poverty is cheap
everything is expensive because you allowed the manufacuteres and dealers to think they were justified in raising the prices.
you allowed them to create an environment of unsustainable planned obsolescence in order for them to raise profits.

the old school cars you could fix at home with simple hand tools, now you need specialized tools just to find out what's potentially broken, then order parts specificly tailored for that specific model of car.

you allowed this.
we had a good thing with the old school carburetor, and now you can't afford anything.

>>510507309
Kei truck design is the best IMO, but I don't see why we have to keep bailing out the nigger car industry. When I was a kid my dad refused to buy anything but American. I can't even fucking describe how many fucking problems we had growing up with American cars. When it was my time to buy a car I bought an old camry. After that my dad switch and we've bought nothing but Toyotas since the 80s.

The real shame is that modern Toyotas went the same way as American car companies out of greed. They already had bullet proof car designs. Then they got greedy and fucked their shit all up. Every fucking modern car is a POS.

LEARN HOW TO FIX YOUR OWN CARS WHY DO YOU NEED A NEW CAR PEOPLE ARE BRAINDED AND DUMPIN PERFECTLY GOOD VEHICLE

>>510508087
The only bitch about fixing cars is not having access to a lift. If you have a lift most car repair becomes trivial.

why wont you just settle for the base model?

>>510508087
>why don't all people do my hobby with me

>>510503808 (OP)
I bought an old Silverado and am learning how to wrench on it with YouTube. The thing is incredibly simple to work on. I plan to run it forever since parts are cheap and I'll be able to scavenge parts from other trucks when they stop making new parts.

>>510503808 (OP)
>A Honda HRV costs $40k, an Accord costs $45k, and a CRV costs $55k. This is not sustainable
wait until you see what they did to home prices and healthcare

>>510503808 (OP)
>A Honda HRV costs $40k, an Accord costs $45k, and a CRV costs $55k. This is not sustainable
nigger have you even looked? even californian dealers, in a hub of mexicans and high cost of living, have them available below 30

>>510503808 (OP)
SUVs are specialty cars. If you want an affordable car, you get a sedan.

>>510508652
how many kids. no, how many carseats can fit you in there, chang?

Boomers paid less for a house on a couple acres.

>>510503808 (OP)
>decided i want a car after almost a decade of not having one and just using the bus
>look up prices
>used cars START at $10,000
START
AT
TEN
THOUSAND

>>510505156
Based /n/ truther. Cars rely on high wages, cheap gas, and cheap cost of living. Boomers thought the good times would continue forever so they ripped out our existing transit network of streetcars and trains. Every city in this country was connected by trains, and every city had a tram network going to every neighborhood. All of them. Now today most of these places are lucky if they have a single bus line. They fucked us. They fucked us over, for what? Why? To make us into debt slaves.

>>510508942
I just have 1 kid and I'm divorced so it works out well. There's seating for 3 if I want to pick up someone else.

>>510508652
I wish I could find a decent 4 door truck for like 10kish. There exist none.

>>510509291
Why are you lying?

>>510509516
dirty fucking nigger retard faggot

>>510509472
You could get a Silverado SS for that much. It is an extended cab.

>>510503808 (OP)
nigger its $23k $28k and $35k

>>510507118
Didn't ford CEO call it "humbling"?

>>510509180
NIGGER YOU CAN GET A GOOD CAR OF FB MARKETPLACE FOR 6K HIGHLANDERS, CAMRY, COROLLA, 2000'S LEXUS AND ACURAS ARE ALL 6K

>>510509674
Middle of that truck looks like it's gonna buckle any day now.

>>510509553
Deserved, >>510509516 is a faggot