Thread 510520177

>>510520177 (OP)
should buy something if not weapons maybe a nuclear refinement center to help with the Olympics, he just had one and knows what the finical burden it is.

>Refuse to aid Ukraine with weapons
>Refuse to force them to sign a peace deal

What did Eurangutans mean by this?

>>510520177 (OP)
Americans can’t even follow the production demand RIGHT NOW, they just up the prices and then use euro tax money to funnel even more money to their defense industry what a total fucking sham

>>510520291
Pretty epic prank huh

>>510520177 (OP)
.....

>>510520177 (OP)
Germany, Poland, Finland, whoever else hates Russians, probably.

>>510520291
French people have always been insufferable faggots.
We were liberating them from the Nazis and they were insufferable faggots then too

>>510520410
Maybe your fake country should learn how to build things.

>>510520455
i hate muttmericans more

>refused
They're removing two more holidays and having us work for free instead right now, he's not refusing he's too broke to buy them

>>510520177 (OP)
>>510520291
The truth is that the US makes overpriced and obsolete shit.
Ie planes with $45 screws and 10K toilet seats.

The US industrial complex is and INDUSTRY, it's a grift.
So no, we aren't buying your shit, we'll sell our own shit. What will Donnie do? Tax us 150%? kek

>>510520617
Doesn't matter, as an occupied country you will do as the US says.

>>510520739
You should nuke the mutts' main thralls (anglokikes and germniggers) if we want this continent to survive
Hell Id even accept temporary french or russian semi-hegemony despite your negrophilia and their islamophilia to get rid of mutts

>>510520177 (OP)
>trump tells yuros to buy mutt weapons an give 'em to holohols.
nah, you're alright faggot.

>>510520739
Is that your finger?
And yes, a fastener can cost that much, /n/igger.

>>510520739
unfortunately pierre you let jeets use your stuff in full view of the public. not a good marketing tactic.

>>510521090
Reminds me of picrel, nothing justifies those prices, fgt.
No wonder the US has the biggest military budget if you inflate the prices of everthing. China builds the same fighter jets for 1/10th of the price.

>>510520739
>this bolt had to be made with certain materials
>with certain processes
>to achieve certain material properties
>it then had to be tested to ensure those properties were achieved
the more you ask of a bolt
the more it's going to cost to get a bolt that does what you ask of it.
you could always roll the dice with a chinese bolt, anon.
they'll print whatever certification papers you ask for.

>>510520739
Lol you wanna check about the shop furnishsing schools before pointing USA.

>>510520291
>a "peace" deal
Letting Russian animals murder, rape, and loot with impunity in occupied Ukraine is not peace, you brainless vodka monkey.
Putin replaced the entire Ukrainian population in Mariupol with Russian Muslims and other brown mongrels like you.

>>510521491
Get real job, nafotrannie.

>>510520177 (OP)
Probably because we make our own weapons.
Macron probably still salty about the $35B australian submarine deal too.
Also
>no link
sage

>>510520814
this. Same with Macron.

>>510520503
I understand the annoyance of having to pay top dollar for your weapon systems, fueling your economy and then have Trump claim he’s supporting Ukraine for countless billions while Europe does Jack shit for months. French are also bankrupt, so it’s a different situation from us and the nordics (we’re basically labour drones).

>>510521336
100€ for a desk light paid on your dime. At least Americans are free to chose to be retarded or not.

>>510521672
Before 2014 Russia bought aircraft carriers in France. Now France will have to buy American.

>>510521491
why are you such a racist

>>510521789
Nigger, where the fuck do you think you are?

>>510521491
>Letting Russian animals murder, rape, and loot with impunity in occupied Ukraine is not peace, you brainless vodka monkey.
It's peace. Look at the American whiskey monkey kindly giving the banan to the friend monkey instead of eating it.

>>510521896
He's not a negro. He's middle class, the middle class doesn't condone racism.

>>510521672
>we make our own weapon
Replace the famas with a German rifle
kek

If and when the us is sending over to be destroyed old stock why'd you want to pay for it? For new stuff sure. Also I'm pretty sure the french will gladly just send their own stuff such as AASM hammers etc

>>510520177 (OP)
So trump announces a big weapons shipment, but actually europe needs to buy it, and now they won't buy it.
and trump has given russia 50 more days for conquer ukraine.
europe needs to use Russia's siezed assets to buy it.
what's the hold up? This is ww3.

Thank God for France
The only nation willing to stand up to the primary genociders of Europeans, the USA, who hate Europe and wish to corrupt and destroy it
Vive la France!

>>510520291
>Refuse to aid Ukraine with weapons
it's understandable that reading doesn't come naturally to russians.
>pushed for Europeans to build up their own defense industrial base.

>>510520177 (OP)
Frogs, what's going on, big guy?

>>510521336
You have never turned a wrench in your life.

>>510522304
They’re broke mon ami. Here’s to hoping it stimulates them to unbrazil themselves a little

>>510522283
Most of military aid came from the US. France in particular provided very little aid at all. And I've been hearing about this European build up for a long time. It's been three fucking years, you still can't replace the US aid. Especially in such critical shit like satellites, intel and communication.

>>510522623
Oh yeah, right...

>>510522672
Without financial aid to prop up the government you are quite done as well. You national industry ramp-up is largely financed from Europe. It’s the smartest move for speed and the best outcome for you, because it will be a stepping stone for independence and even power when you become a truly big manufacturer. The US is very focused on its own MIC, while Europe is deliberately aiding your industry (we also scoured the globe to get you equipment nonetheless). Also, it is very difficult to quickly replace the big enablers, like satelites and Intel. 3 years is nothing in that domain. I’m honestly surprised how fast we are moving there as well.

>>510520538
Is there any actual physical product made in the USA that is not some overpriced military hardware? And you cannot even mass produce that.

>>510522304
>>510522672
>>510522750
You DO realize that France pays 20% of EU aid right? Like Germany pays 25%, and Italy 14%.
But more importantly: why should you receive aide?

>>510523135
>Germany pays 25%
Yeah AND they've sent plenty of shit on top of it. You sent less than little Denmark

>>510523374
They value niggers more than their European brothers.

>>510523374
Why do you have gay interracial saved on your device and why did you feel the need to post it on a military equipment spending thread?

>>510523526
You didn't answer the question.
Why should you receive aide?

>>510523627
france in particular has more of a vested interest than many considering the inroads russia has been making into africa.

>>510520291
Germany and France were only aboard with defense spending increases from NATO as they wanted to use that to boost their own arms industries (and in German case automobile). If they buy American they get fucked instead economically.

>>510520410
Lol almost anything nowadays from the US is a scam, a ponzi or a pyramid.

Lmao, Maidan scum is seething.

>>510523553
I wish, niggers are more useful then ukranian refugees here.

>>510524007
how so? They're getting weapons again.

>>510523627
honestly this kind of behavior is enough to turn one into a tankie and push for flooding france with more jews and shitskins. He should receive aid because his nation is fighting our proxy war dumbass.

Why are ukrainians acting as if the world ows them something? Talk about entitlement.

>>510523746
Africa in the financial way, is a trap.
We have very few mining companies (mainly Eramet and Ourano) compared to Anglo countries (especially Canada, Australia and US) who have mining giants.
We're losing money in Africa as we gain nothing but spend a lot. Russia is actually doing us favor by finally pushing us out of a sinking hole. Might they enjoy the resources (few diamond and gold) and get all the issues that come with the slew of kangs.

>>510524192
Proxy war that doesn't benefit us at all. If you have a revenge to take with Russia it's your choice and freedom to do so. But there's no reason for us to help you and hurt ourselves financially because you're too small to do it on your own.

>>510524162
Those are old Biden-era weapons, not something in addition to those. Not for freee anymore too. Biden promised billions for weapons, but now Trump is making the EU buy those weapons. Also, the situation in the east is catastrophic, several villages are lost every day. Zelensky just replaced the government, it's his third one during the war, and you know how effective that is during war. Russia will launch a major offense in the next month. Ukraine is fucked and that's good. Thank you, mister Trump! Fuck the dealers of death!

>>510524399
>implying we care enough
It was your own politicians in NATO that pushed for this and it was indeed the French who also pushed to bomb Ghaddafi.
You deserve to be an Algerian province and we will not help you. Thanks to you on my seaside restaurant, I am now charging french people 35% more because of your stupidity.. Until you learn better. nigger lover

>>510520291
The US and Europe are not at war with Russia and I gladly welcome them to reconquer the land stolen by Bandera’s terrorists.

France is surprisingly nationalist in the way they run their economy and military supply chain.
It would be a near perfect country if it didn't have lefty attitudes towards immigraiton.

>>510521491
>Le Economiste
lmao, like anyone believes that glownigger rag anymore - it's as valid as Russia Today.

>>510524597
That's funny, who was constantly mocking us for Macron calling multiple times Putin in an effort to deescalate the conflict.
Nobody is expecting Bulgaria help in anything be real, we subsidize you since 2007 after all.

>>510521372
When you realize the bolts were made in China your whole argument goes out the window. Lmfao.

>>510521372
Why are our 'top of the line' companies getting their parts from China then added a 100000% mark up to sell to the government?

>>510521957
This shit really boils my bladder.
We buy their rifles, they won't buy our planes.
They negociate everything for themselves and against us.

>>510522283
with what industry blud

>>510520177 (OP)
>Please give more money to Jews so they can keep killing Ukrainians
Lmao

>>510526185
I’m pretty sure you have a net surplus in terms of military trade with Germany, from spacecraft, aircraft and howitsers.

>>510520177 (OP)
The US bankrolls 70% of NATO. The Frogs aren't buying the arms, the US is going to be buying it from itself. The money laundering must keep flowing

>>510522304
We are fucking broke and we already fund the EU with Germany

Macron isn't serious, neither is the EU or the US. Politicians could've increased the training budget for mechanical, electrical and electronics technicians 5 years ago in anticipation and those guys would be work ready now but they did fuck all. Funding Ph.D.s in radical trans lesbian studies might score woke points but it aint gonna get weapons systems built. They had their heads up their asses knowing exactly what the situation is. Fiddling while Odessa burns.

Italia did too.

>>510527088
>Politicians could've increased the training budget for mechanical, electrical and electronics technicians 5 years ago in anticipation and those guys would be work ready now but they did fuck all.
Why would they pay for plebs to learn skills? The money is supposed to flow to jew billionaires, not random blue collar humans.

>>510526185
You should be arming China if you want to be top tier in defense, and piss of the Anglos.

>>510524399
You are still spending a fortune funding Al Qaeda and Boko Haram trying to topple governments that just kicked you out.

>>510521491
You're just mad Germany is losing it's third war in a row to Russia

>>510527681
Ukraine should go home to the borders before 1917, and the war is over.

>>510526420
so, the funny thing about that is the uk recently nationalized steelworks, and opened 6 new munitions factories, but, at least in this context, macron would be more interested in the french situation.

>>510520177 (OP)
War
Death
Chaos
Nothing
But
Trouble
Ahead

>>510532522
>the uk recently nationalized steelworks
Because it was failing and allowing it to go under would mean that the UK would lose the ability to make steel
>and opened 6 new munitions factories
No, your government talked about setting aside some money to maybe do this at some point in the next ten years

>>510520177 (OP)
makes sense, US kit is insanely overpriced

>>510520177 (OP)
What Pierre gon' do, send those dogshit Rafales that got capped in their first ever engagement?

>>510523627
their jewish king demands it

>>510521491
why does the "totalitarian hell" part of the ukranny not have goyim press gangs but the "free liberal democratic" part does?

>>510520739
>Ie planes with $45 screws
It's actually a fair price due to quality constraints.

>>510520177 (OP)
Hes right though. Why should euros buy overpriced burger wunderwaffles when they could be making their own and profiting from it.
Literally the only reason this hohol thing happened was because jewsa wanted to reduce russian gas and oil flowing into europe because they rather be the only ones selling to them (at a huge margin profit) and also to boost their (((mic))) stocks by selling bullshit to europe.

>>510520177 (OP)
It's hilarious how hollow the European threat it won't buy US weapons is given how transparent it is that they're economically unable to even create a military industrial complex anything close to what the US has which is why European NATO chiefs are sucking Trump's arsehole and publicly calling him "daddy"

>>510537718
>Poolack is a stationed zogdog defending overpriced bolts made in china
Funny

>>510520739
Nigger France is in crippling debt with an ageing population with a low retirement age coupled with a generous welfare program on top of that you import Arabs and Africans as the future workforce to prop all that up you are unable to create any type of military industry

>>510521705
Then why they never chose not to be?
Seems like they never had an option though

>>510520291
Forcing them to sign a peace deal is Russia's job.

>>510520177 (OP)
Oh shit anons! This fucker is drawing a line in the sand! No pussy, no weapons! Simple as.

>>510537967
They can't because as even the article points out they don't have the economic ability to create such an industry as European nations are deeply indebted, have stagnant economies an ageing population and are bringing in Arabs and Africans as the replacement workforce only they don't work and collect welfare only adding to the debt the only thing they can do and what they do, do is raise taxes

>>510538486
Europeans are supposed to pay for the weapons anyway. If the weapons are ordered from European companies, the money stays in Europe and it helps build up the European arms industry

>>510526185
They don't buy your planes for the same reason that you don't use your own rifles.

>>510537718
>Boeing
>Quality

>>510538662
You need the industry to not only create the weapons but build them at scale so the only way that happens is if the government invests lots of taxpayer money to fund that which they won't because they can't because it's economically and politically not viable as it will come at the cost of social welfare programs, tax increases and increasing the age of retirement which the government won't do because then they're no longer the government

>>510520177 (OP)
>wahhh its too expensive
>we'll make our own, al fresco
>dumbfuck eurocucks believe this
we will have to rescue europe again someday soon because of this retardation, and these same cucks will cry when young America laughs at them, again

>>510538949
The US hasn't won a war in 80 years

>>510522142
>For new stuff sure
If Europeans are going to pay for new stuff to give to Ukraine, it'd be better to order from European companies than American companies. That way, the money would stay in Europe and the money would help strengthen the European arms industry. There are European analogues to almost every weapon the US sells, however the European companies need firm contracts signed before they can start ramping up production.

>>510539117
>European companies need firm contracts signed before they can start ramping up production.
Yes they need governments to spend tens of to hundreds of billions of taxpayer money while also still somehow having that same amount of money or more in the budget to spend on existing programs, infrastructure maintenance, new programs etc

>>510538902
>You need the industry to not only create the weapons but build them at scale
Yes
The process to ramp up production should've started in 2022

>it will come at the cost of social welfare programs
The money is supposed to be spent anyway. There was a new NATO pledge of 5% of GDP on defense. Some countries like Poland and Lithuania were already going to spend 5% of GDP. But instead of placing orders with European companies, many European countries buy most armaments from America and South Korea because that is easier and because it curries favor with the White House
And now European taxpayers are supposed to commit to pay American companies to build new weapons to be sent to be destroyed in the never-ending money-furnace that is Ukraine

>>510539352
So they can have modern weapons to kill more yuros

Somehow this is normal in yuropa

>>510522304
wait wtf
why is my country sending so much compared to all the others?

>>510520177 (OP)
Where are the European weapons, why do they have to pay for American ones?

>>510539352
Hundreds of billions are supposed to be spent anyway
Right now European taxpayers are paying to build up the American arms industry rather than paying to build up the European arms industry
European taxpayers are paying anyway, but they're getting less security for it because they build themselves into a dependency on the Americans

>>510539532
They're paying less in the short term because they're buying a finished product rather than spending money developing the industry and also spending on research and technology in the long run it would be profitable for them but currently European governments aren't in the economic position to invest the capital needed to create it politically it will be unpopular as it will lead to austerity in order to fund it would result in riots, protests and strikes which would further hurt the economy