Thread 510528940

I graduated with a CS degree and I'm still a NEET. Are we supposed to just be slaves working for McDonald's and Walmart?

>>510528940 (OP)
its over

A coordinated communist cyberattack targeting the US FIRE sectors — finance, insurance, and real estate — would strike at the heart of our passive American wealth extraction, economic stability and global influence. These sectors form the backbone of US capital flow and wealth generation. Disrupting them would not just stall domestic transactions or damage consumer confidence. It would fracture the trust that underpins the US dollar’s dominance in global markets.

The attack would signal a strategic shift away from conventional military confrontation toward asymmetric digital warfare. Instead of missiles or troops this is power projection through precision code. The adversary exploits the US’s dependence on networked systems and centralized financial data.

Domestically such an attack would trigger chaos. Bank runs frozen credit markets real estate paralysis and insurance systems unable to process claims would destabilize the economy at every level. Internationally allies would question the reliability of American financial systems. Rivals would be emboldened to decouple further from Western institutions and pivot toward alternative economic blocs.

Geopolitically it would mark a defining moment in cyber conflict. It would likely trigger a response doctrine that places cyberattacks on par with kinetic acts of war. Retaliation could range from crippling counter-cyber operations to economic sanctions or even conventional strikes depending on attribution confidence.

In this new domain strength is measured not by how many aircraft carriers you have but by how hardened your code is how redundant your systems are and how quickly your economy can reboot under pressure. The old Cold War was about nuclear deterrence. This one is about who blinks first when the servers go dark.

So what's the alternative? I'm interested in a trade since they're pretty AI safe and you don't have to compete with women or materialistic chinks/jeets. But everything I see online is tradies bitching about low pay, how hard it is on your body, how boomers don't want to train apprentices, how you should work for a union but it's hard to get into etc. What the FUCK is the right move in 2025 for a normal dude

>>510528940 (OP)
You can also drive for Uber. Plenty of options

What? You get said degree to NOT work at walmart.

>>510528940 (OP)
>getting a degree to do a job that 85iq retards do

Looks like you got scammed, retard. Maybe you should ask for a refund?

>>510529190
If your family isn't rich by now, you'll just die poor.

>>510529190
The boomers not wanting apprentices thing is a lie. The problem is you don't really make any money as an apprentice.

As much as I love programming, so do Indians. Might as well just let them do it honestly since it will make humanity more efficient. I'm going back to school for medicine. Indians love to do that too but there are never enough people in medicine so it works out

>>510529235
Jeets can't do CS jobs though. They're just scammers with fake credentials.

>>510529388
You might as well go to school for FIRE since you have the choice you brainlet.

Why would you ever work an honest job? FIRE is the biggest wealth siphon from actual labor in human history.

>>510528940 (OP)
you're supposed to create your own app/work on a project for free and put all your shit on github while working at McDonalds.
That's supposed to be how you get your X years of experience working on Y Language

>>510529190
Culinary arts is kinda fun. You have to cook and 90% of it is cleaning. But its like being on a sports team and if you stay fit and fresh, the work is manageable

This passive wealth extraction is global. It’s the biggest flaw of the current system. Why would you work in anything else?

>>510529891
Not how it works, at least now. Recruiters/HR roasties just see no experience on your CV and immediately trash it.
Actual team leads sifting through candidates themselves was a thing before the scamdemic IT boom. Now every company wants to be like Google and has a gorillion interview stages that drag on for weeks at best.
The only real chance CS students have is sucking up to their professors so they can call up their private sector acquaintances and recommend them.

>>510529388
Indians aren't good at programming or medicine, their extremely immoral character and low ethical standards render them inefficient and lacking.
Top that with their questionable hygienic practices and all of that garbage is out the window.

>>510529190
Seems like Nursing is the only field that hiring. That maybe education. Both female dominated fields.

>>510528940 (OP)
Yes, they can just import people form India with fake degrees, that won't join a union, will work for low wages and work long hours.

Why would anyone want to hire you?

>>510528940 (OP)
You can't find a job because we don't have enough immigration. Trust the plan.

>>510528940 (OP)
My parents told me I need to move out and start my life and settle down. Rent starts at 1300 bucks and I make 12 bucks an hour despite getting a degree in computer science. All the woman at the ripe old age of 21 are birth controlled, obese, single moms. When told these facts my mom said, “You have to make it work like we did it was hard back then too. You need to lower your standards there is nothing wrong with plus size woman and there isn’t anything wrong with being a stepfather I know a man who’s happy raising another man’s children.” Can someone explain to me what these two retards are thinking? Also explain how to deal with a society where basic milestones are impossible to achieve.

My dad went to college and got a meme degree. He ended up getting a meme job with the degree. At my age he had three kids. He was able to buy a house and support my mom and three kids.

I got a much better degree and struggle to make anywhere near what he makes. I did the math and found out if my parents gave their house to me I still couldn't afford the upkeep, much less a mortgage, a wife, and three kids. The past four years have set me back so much I am actually making the least amount of money I ever have.

I would love to be a father and support a wife and kids with a great job. Society isn't letting me. I don't want to be blackpilled but I don't see any alternative. As I get older and the door starts to close on a family I'm starting to resign my fate and try to think of a different future.

>>510528940 (OP)
any system that dumbs down its merit and credentials to allow women and niggers to succeed will eventually just lose any prestige and value it once had

women are also the majority of college attendees now, and they're retarded. so a lot of them are coming out with useless degrees with no real application

>>510528940 (OP)
I got IT certifications instead of a degree and had no problem getting a job. Weird.

>>510530943
Congrats. I hope you make your boss a lot of money!

>>510530943
what certs and what job? Seems like they care more for experience than certs.

>>510531383
I have a house and cars now, I'll cope somehow.

>>510531678
Sec+, CCNA, RHCE

>>510528940 (OP)
I would say that trade schools are the way, but I've been looking at job listing for the past YEAR and can't remember the last time I saw someone hiring carpenters, welders, etc.

>>510529388
>Might as well just let them do it honestly since it will make humanity more efficient
Don't make that mistake. At first glance the code monkey position may not appear to require any intelligence but the Indians will still fuck it up due to being too dumb, lazy and dishonest. Boeing planes keep crashing because they replaced white coders with Indians.

>>510532012
What's the role and did you have any experience? Just got denied from an IT role with my CS degree lmao.

>>510528940 (OP)
they don't do age gaps either. they're doomed.

>>510528940 (OP)
pick yourself up by your own bootstraps, shower and groom yourself and get your ass down to your local golf course and start shaking those hands firmly. nothingquite gets you a 100k/yearly CEO position likea gud old asskissing

>>510530688
>Can someone explain to me what these two retards are thinking? Also explain how to deal with a society where basic milestones are impossible to achieve.
They're not thinking. My dipshit welfare queen dad, his obese remarriage AND my alcoholic mom also told me to just "figure it out" and to "find my own way" when I brought up how utterly ruinous both the job and housing market is and will continue to be. Their brains are calcified and you have to accept that you're simply a different class of human being than them. Their betrayal isnt without consequence though- none of them will see my children nor will I attend their funerals. Boomers and GenX are scum, in the realest sense of the word.

>>510532324
Network engineer. I interned as a sysadmin for a few months, got picked up by an ISP. Seemed fairly straight forward to be honest.

>>510529190
Aircraft mechanic

>>510532590
Got it, did you get the certs, do the internship, and then get the job or was it in a different order?

>>510528940 (OP)
>Be me
>Masters mechanical engineering grad
>Applying to jobs
>Only one firm really gives me any callbacks
>Have three seperate phone interviews with three different hr recruiters that ask nearly identical questions that I already submitted with my applications
>Get 3 second round interviews from first round hr bullshit
>1 in person, two on phone
>Travel 3 hours to first one
>Seemingly have an okay interview only to be told no a few days later
>First phone interview gave me a rejection within a day
>Not a bad interview by any means, must have been a pity interview
>Third phone interview in two minutes from now
>Have no real hope of success

Wish me luck i guess

>>510528940 (OP)
Ironically I’m a literal high school drop out that became an exec, and I’m entirely unconnected from a poor fag family.
So yes, college is absolutely useless and is only a metric of how good a goy you are for useless HR roasties to use.

>>510532487
Golf courses are unironically one of the best places to network with boomers and people who can actually hIre people.

>>510532158
Most apprenticeships now are done through labour hire companies. Contact them, great scam really. They make money hiring you out, the government pays them money to find you an apprenticeship and the tradesman gets cheap labour.

>>510528940 (OP)
I work as a janitor for the university from which I earned a bachelors.
My boss is a felon who struggles to read.
yes, it's meaningless and useless.

>>510529190
move to Alberta, learn welding, work an oil field, or get your license and work a mine dozer. also join a masonic lodge or whatever ethnoreligious fraternal order you can get. do it now before AI leads to mass layoffs of the lower middle class.

>>510528940 (OP)
university education wasn't really intended to be vocational for a long time. For a few decades, employers realized that it filtered dummies, but that changed over time and removed the efficacy of the filter. You could always argue that education is valuable for its own sake, but that doesn't necessarily make you more employable. When you factor monetary & opportunity cost into that consideration, then it just doesn't make sense for most people aside from the wealthy and birghtest/most inquisitive minds (like it was for a long time)

>>510534181
Its rarely worth it for the bright ones anyway. You can be the smartest kid in the class and receive no meritocratic reward for doing so while joe schmoe with rich parents and a sub 3.0 gpa can get a job any day of the week

>>510530943
Certbros unite, NEVER fall for the kike college scam.

>>510533030
don’t take any shit from those swine man

>>510532681
>like cars and want to be auto mechanic
>hear horror stories about having to buy several tens of thousands of dollars worth of tools just to get paid barely above minimum wage working stressful flat rate on shitboxes while you destroy your body
>look into being an aircraft mechanic
>they say "nah go for automotive it's easier to find a job and you get paid more"
>would also be too stressed knowing that if I mess up, hundreds of people could die
I'm just so tired anons

>>510534612
Unfortunately, college is the only way to get a good paying, respectable job that wont treat you like a mild nuisance at best, or a fucking nigger at worst. I know. I'm living proof of what happens when you don't go to college...

>>510528940 (OP)
They stopped hiring actual talent in 2020 under COVID, now it's just pajeet tech serfs and diversity tokens
>t graduated my MS program December 2019

>>510528940 (OP)
>Are we supposed to just be slaves working for McDonald's and Walmart?
Yes dude
Do we have to spell it out for you

>>510528940 (OP)
if you want to work with a cs degree you need to larp as indian. You will not get a callback or pass an interview loop otherwise.

If you want to get a job period stop saying you are a white male, only 6% of new jobs went to white males last year

>>510528940 (OP)
>Are we supposed to just be slaves working for McDonald's and Walmart?
Yes

>>510534740
Not true for certbros. You're just a lazy nigger.

>>510534660
try telecom or low volt stuff was the easiest job I had by far and the pay is decent not great but a good starting point plus you meet a lot of people at job sites

>>510534740
you’re a nigger

>>510534843
I dont have thousands of dollars to shill out for certs. If I fail thats a band down the drain I could have just spent on scratch tickets at the Kwik Trip.

>>510528940 (OP)
Do you have a portfolio?

>>510534890
Far, far from it.

>>510528940 (OP)
The Timeless Truth About Tyranny According To Aristotle. He predicted that governments would prefer foreigners and hate its people.

https://youtu.be/2gkYbrzMAE4?si=eFxyzmjeydjFf5hr

>>510528940 (OP)
They are only letting EXPERTS stay employed to use AI. Shoulda done EE bro ;)

>>510534640
The point that Im trying to get at is that its not even about money or inefficiency anymore. I can at least partially respect a business for just doing business, but having three repetitions with three different people is clearly a waste of time, money, and effort on their part.

Btw, my phone interview was scheduled for nine this morning and they still haven't called me yet.

Humiliation ritual on all fronts

>>510529190
>So what's the alternative
let's be honest no matter what you do you'll end up a debt slave

>>510528940 (OP)

>CS degree
Learn to co... Umm.

Learn to flip burgers.

>>510529388
Just because they like it doesnt mean they are good at it.
Indians are terrible at everything.
Which just creates more work for the skilled.

>>510534740
I was recently not only passed over for a promotion to supervisor after 5 years of service but also not interviewed for a position that aligned precisely with my degree.
How am I supposed to get a better job when my experience is scrubbing toilets for half a decade and the people who awarded my degree are not willing to train me into a new position?

>>510535918
Depends on how good that portfolio is or whatever extracurricular activities you got going on.

>>510529181
So it would fuck over rich Jews, where's the problem

>>510536010
working full time, going to school, being a homeowner, and raising 4 kids is not busy enough?
should I fucking go to graduate school?

>>510536297
>working full time, going to school, being a homeowner, and raising 4 kids is not busy enough?
Holy shit

>>510536529
they said being a "weekend warrior" was a bad thing after I described what I do with my time off.

>>510536803
There are no weekends with such responsibilities.

>>510532487
serious or ironic? cant tell

I HAVE 2 (TWO) STEM DEGREES IN 2 VERY DIFFERENT FIELDS AND IM STILL UNEMPLOYED

>>510528940 (OP)
Yes. Companies are just going to hire the remote working jeet with interior skills because it is cheaper.

CS degree and unemployed

>>510528940 (OP)
Have you ever done a graduate interview? They're insane. Several days, multi stage, psychometrics etc then your application gets sent off to HR that box tick you lmao. Jesus Christ.

"Hello everyone, there are 500 applicants for 2 positions, good luck, the competition will be strong"

>>510528940 (OP)
>So is college completely useless now?
Always has been.

>>510538721
Have you "college is a meme" chuds ever applied for jobs in your life or are you out of touch boomers? If you think a bachelor's is useless see how far your resume gets in 2025 without it.

>>510539143
Indeed. I apply for no less than 10 jobs daily. Still dont get any offers.

>>510539143
I'll take my degree off my resume and see if that works.

No, but CS degrees from T2+ schools are. You bought a bubble asset. I don’t know what to tell you, man.

>>510533941
Ok. I want to work on an oil field. I have no education skills or work history. So Now what do I do?

>>510528940 (OP)
so glad I'm not going to college and will never get a job in my life

>>510528940 (OP)
>Are we supposed to just be slaves working for McDonald's and Walmart?

We could have told you that 4 years before you finished your degree.

>>510528940 (OP)
>i failed where millioes succeed
>uni is useless!!!
Ok loser.

>>510528940 (OP)
if that was someone worth hiring they wouldve used a URL shortener on that QR code.

>>510528940 (OP)
We need to close the border and end all H1-B. This should be the main issue in America right now.