Thread 510557569

Russia rightfully fears the power of NATO. Not because NATO ever had plans to attack Russia, but because NATO exists as a power entity in the world outside of an imperial structure.

To join NATO you first have to be a democracy with universal suffrage. NATO is an organization that free nations willingly join. This means that NATO never has to waste resources on maintaining control over “NATO territory.”

The state of Russia has ALWAYS been based on the conquest of new peoples who do not want to be part of Russia. The Russians under their original Empire and their Soviet Union reincarnation were always tied up with internal conflicts and security concerns. The Russians have always had to spend vast resources (secret police) on keeping their conquered peoples and territories in line.

The Kremlin has always ruled with fear. Therefore, Russia can never operate at full strength against an external enemy, because their empire would then crumble from within as different conquered peoples would rebel with the hope of escape.

Because NATO is a voluntary organization, every new nation that joins only adds strength to the alliance rather than subtracts from it. NATO does not have to worry about its member states going to war with each other. If NATO had to go to war against Russia, NATO would not have to waste resources putting down internal rebellions of nations who would use a conflict as an opportunity to escape NATO.

This is what Russia fears about NATO. Autocrats always think democracies are weak because they are disorganized, chaotic, and everyone is always after their own self-interests. But democracies in the last 100+ years have a long and bloody history as some of the most warlike forms of government. And democracies have won most wars of the last century.

Whereas autocracies like modern Russia are frequently extremely weak, utterly lacking in resilience, and extraordinarily brittle. Conscripts from impoverished regions of an empire make terrible soldiers. They will be the first to rebel against their masters the second they sense weakness from the emperor.

>>510557608
>a country joins russia
lol

>>510557569 (OP)
Did nato ever accomplish anything besides creating a nigger migrant crisis by bombing Libya which was an anti-migration bulwark, making europoors buy overpriced mutt crap, bombing Yugos to protect mudshits and make worthless micronations feel powerful for once in their existence?

>>510557997
NATO is the reason why there has not been a world war 3 and why the world has enjoyed a period of relative peace for 80 years

>>510558417
Nato is the reason europe is flooded with shitskins and baltic micronations try to call the shots in geopolitics based on their ethnic past grievances

>>510558551
European Union is at fault, not NATO

>>510557569 (OP)
Youre a sissy slut for big black cock

>>510558643
I don't recall the EU bombing Libya, I recall NATO doing it
Maybe the EU instead is what's responsible for peace in western europe rather than nato, that's what all EUfags say afterall

>>510557569 (OP)
yes

>>510557569 (OP)
Democracies are weaker than dictatorships (usually)..

>>510557569 (OP)
anon
be realistic , I doubt putin gave a rats ass about nato , my take is his concern was over ukraine joining the e.u.

>>510560935
Name the democracies that have collapsed in the last 100 years. Then name the dictatorships that have done the same

>>510561259
Venuzuala
Buy an add for NATO
Faggot

>>510557997
>and make worthless micronations feel powerful for once in their existence?
that's the point of an alliance, looks like it worked

>>510561472
Venezuela is formally a democracy — it has a constitution, elected officials, and holds elections. However, in practice, it is widely considered an authoritarian regime or at best a hybrid regime with severe democratic backsliding. Venezuela is not a functioning democracy in practice. It has democratic structures on paper, but in reality, it operates under an authoritarian regime where elections and institutions are manipulated to maintain power.

Try again

>>510557569 (OP)
STFU nigger, you have been doing it for years, loser

>>510558643
Israel is mostly at fault, but NATO did their dirty work.

>>510557569 (OP)
How much harder can you project your own fear of Russia on us?

>>510558643
>>510558551
We are in both and we are flooded anyway, its more the post cold war overcorrection to accepting rapefugees than anything, this overtons window is rapidly shifting

>>510562430
Nobody is afraid of you. You can't even take the poorest country in europe that's right on your border in 3 and a half years. No, now it's your turn to be afraid. Even your so-called allies now see you as the failed state you are. China won't save you

>>510562618
you're one of those grey haired fat pedokike "australians" aren't you?

>>510562430
Not a single country in the world is afraid of your squad of vatniks attacking with chink golf carts and shovels. Your military is the biggest joke in modern history. Oh, and your economy is about to collapse too. I can't wait to sample your sister spreading her legs for 10 dollars.

>>510563371
>>510564258
Rutte says all kinds of hyperbolic shit now about Russia invading NATO in 5 years, but no serious person believes that and everyone realizes it's just cringe fearmongering to get NATO members to boost their defense spending to appease Trump. The Russian military is a total joke that has been humiliated before the entire world.