Thread 510594090

>hold 2 electrons in separate superposition cages
>the cage lights up when a spin is detected
>collapse one of the electrons
>if it collapses on an even nanosecond, write a 0
>if it's odd, write a 1
>???
>PROFIT

>>510594090 (OP)
Psychic quantum communication is faster than this.
t. Those who know.

>>510594090 (OP)
looks like my nuts ha

>>510594090 (OP)
I was a kid when I first heard about this theory.
Was it ever experimented?

who cares the earth is small enough we can communicate instantly already.

>>510594271
I'm planning to get off this rock.

>>510594090 (OP)
Wouldn't work. Dunno how. But basedentists are dumb faggots more interested theoretical horseshit than understanding observable phenomena

Suspending disbelief, that you could store a billion of these uncollapsed wave forms that have not yet penetrated the higgs field in two basketball sized objects which you can pop off like a stack for a message to be transmitted in exactly the way you say, you still have the problem of timing. When do you pop the next bit off the stack because if you don't, then the influence won't appear on the other side, and you won't be able to know if the message is heard or not. Also, the balls must travel sub-light speed, and you can't make a clock on the side that says when to collapse wave forms, because the speed of the ball de-synchronizes the clock, making the entire thing useless even if I suspend disbelief that you can do what you say, which you can't, because your if-then statement doesn't produce information generated from the other side.

That all being said, it might not be impossible to transmit data faster than light by piggie backing on how light is able to move retrograde in time.

>>510594090 (OP)
While entanglement seems to communicate faster than light, it couldn’t be used to transmit information. Therefore it doesn’t violate the laws of physics.

>>510594090 (OP)
Doesn't work that way. Entanglement doesn't allow for faster than light transfer of information.

>>510594221
Tirelessly.

>>510594149
A good example of this is when Ryan Dunn died and Bam destroyed his rental van out of rage at the exact same time.

>>510594327
there is absolutely zero evidence that the vastness of space is anything but a lifeless void.

>>510594090 (OP)
I thought nothing can go faster than light.. and faggots wonder why no one trusts the science anymore

gaming would probably still lag

>>510594601
>Entanglement doesn't allow for faster than light transfer of information.
Assuming the entangled pair one outside the event horizon and the other inside the blackhole this would imply faster than light since light cant escape a black hole but this is highly jewish

>>510594668
proof?

>>510594090 (OP)
Yeah but after we use those electrons they are gone forever. How do you send the next message

>>510594447
You can collapse 1 electron a year, only the initial time has to be known.
>>510594601
Entanglement IS FTL. Stop repeating mantras.

>>510594788
Yes, but probably due to refresh rates of the game engine, and not network. It would be much better.

Also with instantaneous data transmission, you can push extremely high data rates through it.

>>510594090 (OP)
i know fuck all about physics but I assume quantum entanglement just means that you can INFER the state of the other particle if the know the state of its partner, even if its on the other side of the universe. It doesn't mean the other particle was updated faster than light

>>510594090 (OP)
Congratulations OP, you thought of the ansible only 40 years after Orson Scott Card

>>510594090 (OP)
Here's what you're actually doing:

>We don't know if this entangled electron is spin up or spin down
>Let's measure the electron to find out
>It's spin down
>that means the other entangled electron, 10 billion lightyears away is spin up

you are not transmitting information faster than the speed of light, the information is inside the electron already. You cannot transfer anything through the electron. You cannot choose the spin of the electron when you measure it.

>>510594668
Here is the only thing I can find him saying But I did hear him say it years ago shortly after the crash
https://www.tiktok.com/@xomgitsbunnie/video/7352562216622738734?lang=en

>>510594934
Only the time of collapse is required, not the state.

>>510594448
>if I travel somewhere faster than the speed of light but I promise not to tell anyone until light catches up with me then that's fine
Retarded.

>>510595010
Only the time of collapse is required, not the state.

>>510594090 (OP)
Quantum entanglement does not allow for faster than light communication.

Quantum entanglement just means that when you know the spin of one entangled particle then you know the other. But stopping one from being entangled doesn't stop the other from being entangled.

It's like having a pair of shoes and placing each one in a different box. If someone opens up one box and finds a left shoe then they know the other box has a right shoe. But knowing that one is a left shoe doesn't cause the other box to contain a right shoe, the right shoe was always there.

>>510594090 (OP)
>when a spin is detected
Retard

>>510594090 (OP)
Just like my Star Trek Voyager

>>510594851
FTL is also the wrong word because the event goes back in time to figure out what I should do.

I take that to mean the deep history doesn't exist since it's a simulation made to look old, and all the stuff happening now that's been in transit to your eye, like looking at a galaxy far away, something that never happened has to come into existence in your present, and that's why it's FTL, but it's not FTL because the billion years ago thing is happening as you collapse into existence.

Which is as trippy as it sounds, moreso, when you observe a galaxy that's never been observed, you are basically collapsing that galaxy into existence on disk.

It's the only explanation that makes sense.

>>510595428
>the right shoe was always there
Exactly. The OP retard is describing influencing one entangled particle with an external force and somehow magically the influence is also transmitted to the other entangled particle. Lmao .....

>>510595010
But the other electron at that point unveils it's spin right? How did it know to do that?

>>510594934
how can an electron get linked when it is on the other side of the universe? surely distance and every other force would disrupt it.

>>510594090 (OP)
>jews will deny this is possible because they didn't invent it

>>510594182
Because your nuts are as small as electrons.

lmao got em

>>510595152
I don't think you understand

if we entangle 8 electrons in a row, 8 for you, and 8 for me
And we travel apart
and I measure them as if it were a binary string, e.g. 00100100 with the 1's corresponding to the electrons I've measured

You, on the other end, cannot tell that I measured anything. There is no signal from the electron saying "I've been measured and my entanglement has collapsed"
To know what the spin of your electrons are, you have to measure them also
And when you measure them their collapse will be completely random for you
you cannot tell which electron superpositions were collapsed already by me

If you want actual real faster than light travel, it's theoretically possible with negative gravity and wormholes and some kind of universal "accounting trick" which forces any travel through a wormhole to undergo time dilation (according to the relativistic dilation between two wormhole points) that intrinsically prevents causality violations

>>510595880
The same force that allows antisemitism to spread vast distances for no particular reason

>>510594090 (OP)
No such thing as an absolute clock so, how do you propose you keep a stable clock signal to use the exact nanosecond as a way of transferring information?

>>510595880
modern quantum physics is presented as confusing as possible
take a shotgun barrel and shoot 2 bb out of it, one bb is rotating left and the other right
if you catch one of the bbs you can tell what is the spin of the other bb
that is it, all of it

>>510596145
>tfw deductive reasoning is FTL

>>510596158
there might be a way to faster than light things, but that would involve other dimensions

>>510596260
yes, also shadows travel faster than light too

>>510596014
You can detect collapse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence#Quantitative_measurement

>>510596145
Quantum physics literally proves even the smartest physics are retarded and proved wrong. When anyone brings up quantum they are obviously retarded and should be put to work in the lithium mines to build robots and ai.

>>510594090 (OP)
>the cage lights up when a spin is detected
Here's where you run into a problem. Any means of detecting the spin of the particle interacts with the particle, interrupting the superpositioned state.

>>510594090 (OP)
And here I am still yelling "nigger" from my tree fort.

>>510595010
>>We don't know if this entangled electron is spin up or spin down
we do know because we can modify it

>>510596158
Those filthy psychic space roaches deserved it

>>510596014
>You, on the other end, cannot tell that I measured anything. There is no signal from the electron saying "I've been measured and my entanglement has collapsed"
don't need to, we can do measurments at the same time

>>510594090 (OP)
When Queen died, Charles became king faster than light. Though they were entangled, no new information was transmitted.

>>510596310
>shadows travel faster than light
They do not.

>>510596131
Lower the clock rate, 1 collapse per second/minute, etc

>>510594601
>information
Semantics.

>>510594221
repeatedly, it doesn't work.
a new method of communication is the first thing everyone thinks about when they first learn about entanglement.

In the 60's and 70's Russians experimented with killing baby bunny rabbits onboard submarines and seeing if the mother back in Moscow showed any signs of distress, because they thought things could be telepathically linked.
Maybe the US could do similar experiments with niggers. Point a gun at the mother's face and see if the son cries out "I dindu nuffin!"

>>510596637
which isn't particularly useful, since charlie wouldn't know he was king until the information that the queen had died was transmitted to him by conventional means.

>>510596728
they do

>>510594690
It's extremely obviously not a "void"
it also contains at the very minimum a shitload of stars which create energy which we can use for whatever we want

>>510596863
It's not. If you can't transmit any information from observing a spin and know the other, it's not semantics at all.

There's no way to inject information into a system, observe its state and then have that information appear on the otherside.

>>510595880
only 1 electron exists

>>510597153
How?

>>510595560
>>510595719
You can detect collapse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence#Quantitative_measurement

>>510594690
when humans move into space, it becomes full of life

>>510597289
Drop the mantra and read the thread.

>>510594090 (OP)
can you and me get rich from this? lets do it bro

Bot convo

>>510597087
Which is the point, entanglement isn't useful.

>>510594727
Same and I thought the speed of light was somehow in maxwells equations about electricity and magnetism
At this point somebody gots to pay foe me to study this and take tests and then give me a cush job paying well to care
I remember some from electronics shit but eventually it’s just connecting pre made components and using microcontrollers
and we are back to software again BORING

>>510597314
Anon only a retard would think shadows are casted before light. You can easily do basic modern experiment with a camera to figure out if you or the shadow show up first.
>>510597503
Most convos now on here have to be bot convos cause if you aren't retarded like the bot they ignore you and fish for retards.

>>510597533
>>510597087
Mystery is where that information is stored. Those that believe there are no hidden variables that contain spin state information, say that property of being one or another spin travelled faster than light. Entanglement isn't useful, it's just a puzzle for physicists.

>>510597303
her name is coulombia >>510568428
and she is very very fast >>510570860

>>510597533
Could you not use morse code? Not about the spins but about the intervals between collapsing the wave functions? Longs and shorts? It doesn't matter whether it's up or down on the other end it's 1 second between the first two electrons you collapse and 2 seconds between the next. So long as you can determine collapse you can then have longs and shorts.

>>510594090 (OP)
>hold 2 electrons
you can stop right there.

No really, you need to stop. Let's try to lose some weight, let's try to get to the gym Tomorrow. Then let's focus on your job let's start putting more effort into that so that you can earn more money.

>>510597803
>coulombia
that's very funny actually

>>510594090 (OP)
It's a fairly common idea. I think the problem is that you need a way of generating new entangled particles along the way. So, if each superposition is destroyed by measuring it on one side, you need to have a continuous stream of entangled particles to make it work.

I'll give you one better:
> entangle to particles
> send one out in space (or around an accelerator) as fast as you can
> time dilation occurs on the one moving fast.

The question:
> does that now make the particles entangled across time?
> now giving you the ability to send messages back in time.

The collapse results in a random state, you can't control whether it's a zero or one. And there is no way to relay that you've collapsed the particle without STL travel.

>>510597314
a shadow is not a real thing, it pseudo particle
like a void, a missing thing can interact with another void, another missing thing and you can describe those interaction and have physics of pseudo particles

so you can cast a shadow across the universe, and it is faster than light, because it is not real, it is just absence of something

>>510599017
>meme flag continues to prove they are retarded and never even took basic chemistry classes
sigh

>>510594149
Psychic quantum communication is so fast that it already happened

>>510599320
there is no transmission of information
information event happened when the 2 particles were generated

>>510594090 (OP)
No way to know if you measure first or if it was measured first on the other end. Not ftl communication... Sorry chuddie

>>510594090 (OP)
>quantum entanglement

Think dimensionally and on different scales.

>>510597393

Imagine outer space riddled with frozen feces everywhere. You go to warp speed & come out of warp with 3 tons extra mass as you pass through the Pooverse/Space South Asia
Pr you lose atmospheric containment as you warp through frozen poo

>>510600720
It's closer than you think.

>>510594090 (OP)
I doubt there is any meaningful way to process this information in a FTL manner, If the information transfer between superposition elections even proliferates FTL

>>510594149
maybe, but an AI can use the superposition method to send information backwards through time

>>510594090 (OP)
That's not... that's not what it means.
QM does not violate Causality. This is just a misinterpretation of quantum principles.
>You have two letters
>One with an arrow pointed up
>One with an arrow pointed down
>You have no idea which envelope contains which
>When you hold an envelope, it's simply a 50/50 change it's either up or down.
>You mail one letter to the other side of the galaxy
>Still no one knows which envelope contains the up or down arrow
>The moment you open the envelope and look inside that yours contains the up arrow, you immediately know the other envelope, at the other end of the galaxy, must have the down arrow.
>The 50/50 probability that you have the up arrow collapse to 1, while the other probability collapses to 0.
>This is what people "claim" to be faster than light speed information communication
>It's not: it's just a probability collapse

>>510594090 (OP)
Why do you believe this Jewish kabbalic nonsense?
You do realize it’s all made up, right?

>>510594327
You're a poor faggot who shits on the sidewalk.

>>510596637
An okay comparison.
Probabilistic collapse isn't a physical property, just a statistical one.

>>510600886
>Jeetndia superpower by 2010, saar!

>>510594090 (OP)
Yeah but how do you sync the clock among them

>>510596055
underr8d kek

>>510595691
Imagine being this retarded.

>>510597252
So much bullshit packed in such powerful words

>>510597366
He's not describing decoherence. He's describing there being no spin to detect and then suddenly spin coming into existence to be detected due to external forces on one end and then somehow manifesting on the other end as well. The spin always exists. ANY deviation from this annihilates any entanglement.

>>510602160
Kek it's real

>>510594090 (OP)
If humans create anything that is faster than light then it would mean humans have surpassed God.

>>510594090 (OP)
>muh atomism

Field modality. You just found the harmonic. Closer to lightsp-- RATE OF INDUCTION? the less extension/magnitude is quantifiable/relevant.

>>510594090 (OP)
>an even nanosecond, write a 0. if it's odd, write a 1
You live in a 2 dimensional world.. What's above the 0 or what's below the 1. You are top picture, become below picture.

>>510594090 (OP)
>place two light flashing devices on directed to both sides of a worm hole.
>game over

>>510601839
That's also retarded because perception doesn't change physical probabilities

>>510594826
lol. no, it's not jewish. that's the trick. it's an analog of time dilation wherein the entangled particle residing inside the BH lives in a "redshifted" region relative to the "control" particle out here. the BH particle exists in the shadow of the control particle's wake and hence can be thought of as a drivebeam.

>>510603095
well relativity is inherently the jewish ala einstien. Although black holes empirically do seem to exist in nature when viewing from a telescope warping space time so much light cant escape which agrees with the math. But this math doesn't agree with the quantum so gravity is probably some form of entropy and the jew math just happens to roughly model it correctly.

>>510603095
applications? well, for one, i could generate zero-point energy. how? by leeching energy from one reference frame to another. if one particle were situated on the surface and another in orbit, the actual time dilation effects can be leveraged to harvest energy resultant from frame dragging. when the system collapses, energy is released. sure, it'll slow earth's rotation but that's for future generations to worry about.

>>510603445
gravity is emergent, yes

>>510594090 (OP)
>nanoseconds sync
umm

Need access to other dimensions or we are stuck here forever.

>>510603538
another application i've already detailed in another thread wherein such a system forms the basis for operating a fuzzy holographic quantum computer.

>>510594851
>Entanglement IS FTL. Stop repeating mantras.
Entanglement is very clearly FTL when you realize Von Neumann is right: Consciousness collapses the wave function.

>>510597985
Im pretty sure that clip is the Elbo Room, in Ft Lauderdale

yeah man, we all played mass effect

>>510594090 (OP)
Quantum entanglement is like a pair of socks. You never know which one is right and which one is left, but the moment you put one on, let's say on a left toe, all the other socks in the entire universe become right ones.

>>510604385
another application is using the QC setup when an energetic potential exists (frame dragging/momentum mining) to be translated into an amplification of the informational-energy potential for particle generation. so, it's particle accelerator without the acceleration bit using energy harvested from time dilation/frame dragging.

>>510594090 (OP)
I can literally talk to people from all over the world in playstaystion with no delays.
wake me up when it's so fast they can hear what I say before I say it

>>510594090 (OP)
>>510594221
>faster than light
>nanoseconds
lol

>>510605373
and obviously becoming proficient in such setups enables using the sun instead of the earth and likely distant objects as well.
>>510605373
>informational-energy potential
informational-gravitational energy potential

>>510594327
>gyppos in outer space

Reminder that the Mandelbrot set is an analogue for the futility of trying to crack God's divine code. We wont be able to exploit/surpass the speed of light, we wont be able to reduce molecules down to their smallest sizes, and we won't be able to zoom out to see how we fit into the macro picture of interdimensional spacetime. We're in a curated terrarium for soul refinement and testing faith under duress

>>510594090 (OP)
>when a spin is detected
lul
It's impossible to distinguish the state of the spin of the electron to determine whether it has been activated without activating it, because to collapse it is to observe it.
You cannot "check if it has been collapsed" without collapsing it.

>>510594090 (OP)
>Take a long stick that has same length of earth to mars's distance.
>push it a little

>>510594090 (OP)
Take the gloves. Put one in a computer on Earth. Put the other in a computer on the moon. Open the computer on planet Earth. You have a right glove = you have a left glove on the moon, you fucking idiot. That's all about Spooky action at a distance

>>510594090 (OP)
you can't tell when the superposition collapses

>>510594090 (OP)
in no fucking way can you possibly spin this to say that its related to politics

>>510594690
Not so fast Rajpeet

>The Cambridge group has found that the atmosphere seems to contain the chemical signature of at least one of two molecules that are associated with life: dimethyl sulphide (DMS) and dimethyl disulphide (DMDS). On Earth, these gases are produced by marine phytoplankton and bacteria.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c39jj9vkr34o

>>510605970
>informational-gravitational energy potential
ie. paradoxical potentiation
to restate: the system under consideration, involves leveraging entanglement interferometry to drive a system analogous to a quantum-eraser inside of our artificial black hole. in the case of a fuzzy holographic quantum computer, interference was used to cycle through configurations of the quantum-eraser which corresponded to some system of interest the output of which was read using holography. in this case, time dilation was used by the control circuit to drive the QC.

paradoxical potentiation is when the quantum-eraser simulates an esherian impossible geometry as in a mobius strip. so instead of providing statistics relative to some solution space for computation, the system as a whole, in the case of frame dragging, is storing gravitational energy in the form of informational potential so that an increasing amount of energy is discharged at system collapse.

>>510594090 (OP)
nanosecond for 1 bit of data, for 1 GB you die from old age
And you need to have atomic clocks perfectly synced to one nanosecond, i don't think that is possible, it could be solved by having agreed standard like that first bit must always be 1 so if you get 0 at the start of the message you can do logical NOT correction for each next second

>>510594690
Nothing does not exist. Space exists to contain a substance, it cannot exist in an empty state.

>>510594090 (OP)
This shit is as real as Santa and the only eeasoon you believe it is because you're too ashamed of questioning it out of fear of being mocked as foolish

>>510594601
>can we see it?
>no! But here's cgi we made

>>510611180
Empty space can exist retard

>>510612475
Particularly in his skull

>>510594090 (OP)
>Have a box that has either a red ball or a blue ball in it
>Look inside
>It's red
>I just communicated!

The cage checking if there's a spin or not will cause it to collapse to one state or the other. You won't know if the other guy checked until you check yours. No information is sent.

>>510594090 (OP)
Vectors are for LOSERS!

>>510595010
not how it works tho, hidden information theory was debunked many times

>>510612675
>You won't know if the other guy checked until you check yours.
Sorry, I phrased that wrong. You won't know if the other guy checked or not regardless of what you see. All you know is what he has, which is not a transfer of information from him to you.

>>510594090 (OP)
anon was able to build this in a gooncave with a box of clipart!

>>510606301
>Reminder that the Mandelbrot set is an analogue for the futility of trying to crack God's divine code.
All this sounds like to me is that we have a fruitful mine that will never deplete.

>>510612475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-vKh_jKX7Q

>>510609693
>time dilation was used by the control circuit to drive the QC
specifically that dilation being the result in difference of the time-dependent evolution of the QC relative to the speed at which parameters/configuration are changed by the control circuit via entangled inference.

I know for sure we are going to have interstellar social media slop

No, spooky action is more like spooky correlation. Quantum experiments show a correlation between entangled particles that is greater than any local and realist theory can show, proven via bell inequalities and associated experiments. The nature of that correlation no one knows, but it hints at a deeper structure/order to the universe, one that transcends both time and space. Which is the lord Jesus Christ amen

>>510594182
is it because of the spin?

>>510594090 (OP)
Wonderful. Now you can instantly transfer a bunch of random bits from one location to another without any control over what the bits are therefore making it completely useless. Neat!

>>510594090 (OP)
>faster than light communication
>the cage lights up
Anon, I.

>>510614538
All you need to do is get the entangled particles to another location and .....oh
The speed of light foils once again

>>510602518
I created it. Am I a god? Im Miguel alcubierre.

>>510602993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6HLjpj4Nt4

>>510595677
Janeway couldn't kill that mutt fast enough.