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>โReplacing high fructose corn syrup with cane sugar doesnโt make sense,โ Corn Refiners Association President and CEO John Bode said in a statement. โPresident Trump stands for American manufacturing jobs, American farmers, and reducing the trade deficit. Replacing high fructose corn syrup with cane sugar would cost thousands of American food manufacturing jobs, depress farm income, and boost imports of foreign sugar, all with no nutritional benefit.โ
fuck them, they should all hang for poisoning us
He replaced the corn farmers, but he isn't going to replace ME even though he has fucked over a lot of different people
>>510596638 (OP)fuck those corn niggers. they're making everyone fat.
>>510596638 (OP)>Corn Refiners Association President and CEO John Bode said in a statement.They can just switch to making Ethanol, and feed for cattle.
>>510596698>>Fuck them cornholers.Indeed
>>510596638 (OP)So grow sugarcane? Grow anything but corn? Fuck off
>>510596843I've been to a corn hole competition at a local brewery... man some of those people take that shot way too serious..
Flyover hicks make everybody fat with corn and import a million beaners to do it. Fuck em
>>510596638 (OP)fuck em, get a real job next time
>>510596638 (OP)So grow sugar instead of corn. Why are farmers so fucking stupid?
>No nutritional benefit from switching Fuck off goyslop peddlers
>>510597104onions and corn have some nigger tier cartel. they are harder to grow.
Earl Butz and farm subsidies is the reason our food is poison.
oh man its too bad that once you plant corn you have to plant corn forever. i wish they could plant some other crop next year that would be more profitable, but as we know, that is impossible
>>510596638 (OP)fuck the corn jews
>We need to keep poisoning people with our government subsidized slop. Why would he take that away from us? Our illegal worker hoards going away was already bad enough, but this is too far!
He literally just did this as a massive distraction of bread and circuses as everyone is talking about Epstein and Israel
>>510596638 (OP)>Corn Farmers>Look Inside>Megacorps who dictate to contracted farmers what to grow
>>510596638 (OP)Trump hates cowboys.
>lee greenwood blasts from speakers
>>510596638 (OP)Iowa cornhusker checkin in, fuck corn syrup bro, that shit's gross.
>>510596638 (OP)Dumbass doesn't even know that HFCS and cane sugar Coke are chemically identical after a short time in the can/bottle/whatever. The taste difference comes from the added salt.
>How dare the government not pay me to poison the country?
>>510596638 (OP)>Removing goyslop makes no sense, says CEO of Goyslop Inc.Yawn.
>>510596638 (OP)Fuck, I've been anti-Trump since the day he came down that escalator and I might support him now
Fuck them cornniggers
you will work the sugar plantations in exchange for maha good vibes
>>510596638 (OP)>not drinking Coke ZeroYou fatasses ain't gonna make it.
>>510596827>I wanna be just like mexico the only country in the world fatter than the US even though they have real sugar cokeretard alert
>>510598208Mexico switched to corn syrup over a decade ago. The Mexican coke they sell in the US isn't the same as the shit in Mexico.
>>510596638 (OP)Pepsi has a real sugar version. The HFCS stuff sells more
>>510596638 (OP)Fuck them - corn can be used in a million fucking other ways.
>>510596638 (OP)Couldn't they farm something other than corn?
>>510596638 (OP)look at the body types from 1970 to today.
it makes sense fatty
>>510598888checked and cucked by corn cobs pilled
>>510596638 (OP)Circulation of $ > national health
Farmers farming corn can rot in a ditch. Learn a new trick.
>>510596638 (OP)By the way all companies contributing to conveniently packaged sugar offerings should be annihilated.
>>510596638 (OP)they're mad he made the announcement? or do they think he runs coke(tm)?
no, op is doing that appeal to majority thing
Corn is too easy and too good in output, americans refused to farm anything else. The result is even though america is a net food exporter, their food import is barely any lower than China who has 5 times the population and is a net food importer
>>510596638 (OP)Oh no! Not the multi-billionare gov gibs farmers responsible for half of the mass browning of America!
>>510596638 (OP)good. get rid of that poison shit from the system, destroy it, so it never becomes the cheap filler that manufacturers have relied on to fill their product and sicken the people.
>>510596638 (OP)Wtf I love Trump now
>>510596638 (OP)we can grow sugarcane here
I used to help cut it when I would visit family in KY
>>510596638 (OP)Fuck the Corn Lobby lmao.
replace all farmers with robots and AI. we don't need these fucking welfare queen parasites.
This is good news for my family no more selling it to csr for 8c a kilo.
>>510596638 (OP)>MUH GOYSLOP AND ILLEGALS WORKING ON FARMS
>>510596638 (OP)Just plant something else. Corporate farmers also get the rope.
>>510598762careful what you wish for
>>510596638 (OP)Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
>>510596638 (OP)In Australia when the chinks banned Aussie meat and seafood the farmers and fisherman said they would prefer to throw all the seafood back into the ocean and try to catch it again next year rather than sell cheaper to Aussies. Farmers demanded we let in a billion turd worlders to work for illegal wages to pick fruit or they will let it all rot on the vines. 2000 Aussies applied for farm work and farmers rejected all 2000 of them because they refuse to pay minimum legal wages.
Fuck farmers, fuck fishermen.
>>510596638 (OP)What the fuck if he does this how will we get cheap food? This is going to starve my family. Corn and its byproducts are a staple of the all American diet right now. You think a Big Mac is expensive now? Wait for these subsidies to end.
>>510599654Not gonna lie, saw this exact same post word for word yesterday, bot detected.
>>510599662Bullshit you fucking gammin cunt<The market shifted to japan rather than China and it was business as usual no one chucked anything back stop watching the project you halfwitted child its rotting your brain out.
>>510596638 (OP)>>510596734Maybe they can try growing something else besides RoundUp soaked goycobbs
>>510597433dont laugh but it simply isn't possible
>>510596638 (OP)Why not cycle your crops?
>>510599752Kys kike shill
Fishers along the Victorian coast have been left holding up to 10,000 lobsters in seawater storage tanks on boats and in processing facilities after China shut down its live animal trade over coronavirus fears.
Australiaโs seafood industry has been thrown into crisis by the ban, with local fishermen considering a plan to return thousands of lobsters to the open waters.
Dont care, magapedos deserve the rope
>>510596638 (OP)Fuck goyslop farmers
They should be forced their own slop
>>510596638 (OP)I canโt believe anyone on this board drinks soda at all kek, have some self respect
>>510597104Corn tastes good. I have three rows growing.
>>510599662>>510599858Got more on this out of personal curiosity? I just like even more reason to hate on government subsidized farms and fisheries.
Everytime I hear about corn I think of molly tibbets
>>510596638 (OP)Destroying otherwise useful farm and wetland to grow cornslop is typical American retardation. I'm with Trump on this one
>>510596638 (OP)Why don't they grow sugar beets instead?
in case anyone in this thread has an iq below 75, you should know that op's post is fake. he made up the quote.
>>510596638 (OP)Farmers don't get anywhere near the level of hate they deserve, they are down there with teachers, ZOGbots and landlords. They literally grow the poison needed to kill their fellow citizens because poison crops are more profitable, and they do so using illegals (white replacement) as their labor force. Absolute scum.
not sure why we don't just grow sugar cane here instead of depending on foreign countries
>>510600234We have sugar beets. Cane sugar is purely tropical
Why canโt we just import cheap sugar from poorly paid niggers in the Caribbean?
>>510596638 (OP)2 big macs, 2 filet o fish, and a diet coke
>>510600224Its all depends on the farmers, large crop farms, and some types of cattle farms, are so automated, they are essentially landlords that get government gibs and slave labor. Though theres still other farmers, that actually farm, and is real work, corn farmers are not that.
>>510600122Lobbying, Corn farmers have a shitload of influence and lobbyists that pay off a shit ton of people, they also do this for other things like keeping Cannabis illegal (whether or not you agree or disagree isn't the point, It's the fact they literally have enough money and (((Influence))) to do this is the problem) so this is almost the sole reason that corn belt states haven't validated legal, 70%+ votes yet.
They can do this for anything else like crops that they "don't" want grown such as natural sugar in this case, as they want Corn but not as a food, but for HFCS goyslop shit, supplying distilleries for the Alchohol industry (the big reason they hate Cannabis as it's competition), and watering down auto fuel with stupid ethanol "hybrid" fuel that's mandatory in some states.
Shits retarded, kill the farmer's and fisher's lobbyists and gibs and said problems would all go away.
>>510599723lurk more lmaoo
>>510596638 (OP)Even if they do decide to make some sugar Coke it, it won't last long, and won't make Trump innocent of raping children.
>>510600378Why would you want to import shit when you can grow it yourself?
>>510596638 (OP)>I'M UPSET BECAUSE I CAN'T POISON AND KILL MILLIONS OF AMERICANSYou don't hate these people enough.
>>510596638 (OP)Oh noes, people feeding the American people poison are going to lose their jobs.
>>510596638 (OP)Start growing hemp, or learn crop rotation and start growing real food again
shove the corn up your ass
win win
>>510596638 (OP)Why don't they just grow sugar?
>sugar cane
...Aren't you guys trying to tariff us?
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70 retards replied to a 1pbtid slide thread. 45 of them were stupid enough to directly (You) the op
All "corn farmers" are megacorporations. You support megacorporations now, 1pbtid drive by retard trannie marxist anon?
>millions of beaner jobs, gone
And this is bad how
>>510596638 (OP)HFCS merchants are jewish and the farmers providing their product are evil cocksuckers. Time to end ethanol subsidies, and eventually outlaw it entirely too. And when we take away their illegal beaner slave-labor they're really going to be suffering. FUCK THEM.
Then grow something else, faggot. Tax payers shouldn't have to subsidize you.
>>510601123>lurk more lmaoo
>>510596638 (OP)Fuck corn syrup.
>>510599858Lick me where i shit you little fuckwit,ill take my apology in letter form.
>the tv said something that doesnt match the empirical dataThe same people told you to get vaccinated for a 0.001% death rate.
>>510596638 (OP)The same exact corn used to make corn syrup is used to make ethanol for gas, it's called "dent corn". All they have to be pissed about is needing to change some logistics and make a few calls to sell to ethanol buyers instead. In other words, this is fake outrage bullshit drummed up by literal whos. If you want to hate Trump, hate him for better reasons like being a kike shill.
Why not just sell the corn for people to eat regular corn?
>Corn Refiners Association President
thank you mr. CRAP
>>510596638 (OP)I say this with absolutely my whole chest:
Fuck corn farmers and fuck corn syrup.
>>510596638 (OP)Keep drinking soda you disgusting slobs.
>>510598208Iowan hands typed this
>>510601533it's decade-old pasta, newfag
>>510601698You can eat it but it's not as palatable as sweet corn
>>510596638 (OP)I raise an alternative
Use the excess corn for biofuel instead
Actually profitable industry
We use sugar Cane or corn here for biofuel
>>510597542Watched that about an hour before you posted it, good film.
>>510596638 (OP)>Corn Refiners Association President>CRAP
>>510596638 (OP)Corn farmers need cobs shoved up their asses
>>510599953corn does but not corn syrup. my country legalised its usage a just few years back and it killed coke cola. Maybe you as an American zoomer just never tasted how good your parents had it or maybe your coping with the beautiful world that was stolen from you before birth but having tasted both i can tell you corn syrup is objectively trash. Corn on the cob with a bit of molten butter is golden, though.
>>510596638 (OP)>>510596698The government shouldn't even be involved with this.
It should be up to Coca-Cola whether they want to use can sugar or corn syrup, or both.
>>510596638 (OP)>Refiners AssociationThat not farmers.
>>510596638 (OP)Fuck that, cane sugar is absolutely superior. I am old enough to remember when junk food had cane sugar in it. It was night and day. There are millions of Americans who never had a Twinkie because corn syrup Twinkies taste like a completely different product than cane sugar Twinkies.
>>510596638 (OP)>>510596734>>510596827This is why Stalin executed kulaks. Farmerkikes need to be put in their place
>>510602713>It should be up to Coca-Cola whether they want to use can sugar or corn syrup, or both.WRONG. They're poisoning the retarded masses with HFCS because it's cheaper than sugar. Same reason loan sharking is illegal.
>>510596698the great cornholio has blessed us
>>510597526This.
Even the corn grown for corn syrup is just feed corn for cattle.
The refiner is fucked, the farmers could care less. Corn for silage or corn syrup pay the same.
How old is Chuck Grassley. How does he run uncontested?
>>510602713yes, return cocaine in Coca-Cola
>>510597553One is more processed than the other, both kill you but one's arguably worse
Just drink water
>โReplacing high fructose corn syrup with cane sugar doesnโt make sense,โ
this is satire right?
>>510596638 (OP)Clusterarchy.
A Clusterarchy is a temporary state of late stage capitalism defined when too many monopolies exist within a lobbyist system. In this stage, all monopolies intersect with one another, and due to their correlations and similarities to each other will overlap and interfere with one another, leading to mass violence and civil unrest between them.
https://youtu.be/tBH05IowMCE
>>510602107Put some corn syrup on it
>>510596638 (OP)>Government subsidises corn farmers>Government subsidises corn products (SNAP, EBT, etc)>Government subsidises the result of corn consumption (Medicaid)Maybe it really is all corn in the end.
>>510596638 (OP)Holy shit.
Corn syrup is evil. The fact that these farmers are angry that they can't poison the population for profit is pure 100% corn syrup.
Also its literally just coca-cola not any other drink. So my guess is theyre just trying to get Americans to drink coca-cola again.
>>510596638 (OP)Watch Bill Gates come in and buy up the former corn farmer's land
HFCS rules. real sugar doesn't distribute as well. We don't want mexican coke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDP9hye2JBY&list=RDGMEMJQXQAmqrnmK1SEjY_rKBGAVMNDP9hye2JBY&start_radio=1
>>510603062It was always corn Anon.
The only real question is "What kind"?
And buddy. It's about to pop.
https://youtu.be/MhvPlzelj9I
>>510603149Corn and seed oils
>>510601698>>510602978Just put it in a vat and make ethanol out of it, or feed it to cattle.
>>510602713>The government shouldn't even be involved with this.Food and drink makers use HFCS in everything because its the cheapest sweetener. This is because the US government puts tariffs on imported cane sugar. Just remove the tariff.
>>510596638 (OP)>Replacing high fructose corn syrup with cane sugar doesnโt make sense,โ Corn Refiners Association President and CEO John Bode>>510602808Typical commie. Claims to be for the worker, yet advocating execution of the worker for questioning corporations.
You can make sugar from beets ffs
>>510597169I don't actually see any Mexicans farming in the Midwest. That's what 500hp John Deere tractors are for. The Mexicans are who we stuff in the nightmare mear plants so we can eat $2 cheeseburgers.
>>510603062Whatta damn shame.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=to8WhLZdocw&
>>510596829The majority of corn product is already used for ethanol, not food. I assume corn farmers are already selling the max amount that oil companies are willing to buy as its the most profitable venture. Im not sure if they can easily sell even more to use as ethanol if Trump cuts a major market for them, especially since growing and selling corn for food products is subsidized by the government.
>>510603211He isn't 'questioning corporations'. He's whining that Trump's government has stepped in and screwed up his cornslop monopoly.
>>510603280THE PEOPLE DEMAND HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP ANON! IT'S A MUST! SUPPLY AND DEMAND MUST FLOW!
https://youtu.be/RomlBumSu9k
>>510597104Can sugarcane even grow in the middle of bumfuck America? Seems like its only ever grown in tropical countries and India where it doesnt snow.
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>>510603357https://vocaroo.com/19JFlCFQVHP0
>>510603280Its the nature of glucose.
Fructose is more efficient to produce. That's why it's in fruit while glucose is in the vegetables themselves. They use glucose for themselves while they give fructose to others in the form of fruit.
Don't even get me started on sucrose.
>>510598062i know if i'd ask for sauce someone could tell me, but I wanna know how you recognize these girls and scenes? the fact that you post porn outside of /gif/ means something happens in the original video that you assume everybody remembers so they're all in on the joke. do you focus on the necklace? I wank a lot, sometimes a dozen times a day but usually i just skip to the action and be done in 2 minutes to get back to what i was doing before getting distracted. Why even keep watching after you're done? I cant imagine finishing a half feature-length porno other than them being made itself being an objective indicator for demand
>>510603514I WILL NOT BE CONTENT UNTIL THE NAME OF THE SWEETENER YOU'RE USING SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SUMMONING LITERAL SATAN FROM THE DEPTHS OF HELL! YOU WILL EAT THE CHLORINATED DYTHONOMAX HYDROSOATE BENZOATE DILITHIUM ATTROLAZE ENZYME ENHANCED SWEETENERS AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!
https://youtu.be/mRNtw_Tc1Jc
>>510598062>Coke ZeroArtificial sweeteners burn a hole in my stomach on top of being so unappetizing I can sit with a drink with them for 6 hours and not drink it.
>>510603472Just add cold resistance gene to sugarcane and voila.
>>510598062>not drinking Coke Zero>You fatasses ain't gonna make it.Diet Coke and drinks have aspartame and Erythritol which is associated with strokes.
Coke = diabetes
Diet Coke = stroke
"31% higher risk of ischemic stroke (due to blood clots),
23% increased risk for any stroke,
29% higher risk of coronary heart disease, and
16% greater allโcause mortality, compared to those drinking less than one per week."
>>510596638 (OP)And yet moonshine is still illegal.
Curious
>>510596638 (OP)Oh no corn farmers can't make people as fat as usual!
>>510603737I once had a bottle of coke sitting in the fridge for 2 years
>>510598208Mexicans eat mostly carbs
>>510596638 (OP)I have 2 questions:
1. Can't the farmers just plant something else?
2. Do they observe crop rotation or they plant corn every single year?
>>510603403Saars, do no redeem
>>510597104You get more sugar per hectare if you grow sugar beet and only get one harvest every year.
Sugar cane only beats beet if you have endless harvests like they do in the tropics
>>510596638 (OP)Unironically fuck corn. Nutrient-less poison that's been turned into hyper slop. Those faggot farmers can face the same wall as the illegal spics they employ
>>510604104Try reading OP again.
It is about sugar refiners saying
>Farmers will be hurt if the refinery isn't workingThe farmers are not going to be effected.
This is the food monopoly freaking out that their control is being threatened.
>Corn Goyslop Owners Say Anything To Stay In Business
>>510596638 (OP)Reminder that if youโre against hcfs youโve fallen for charlatans. Itโs nearly chemically identical to cane sugar, just in liquid form with some corn byproducts. Both are around 50/50 sucrose and fructose. There is functional use to it, it stays liquid whereas cane sugar can crystallize over time.
>>510604545>Itโs nearly chemically identical>NearlyBut not identical
Keep swinging kike.
>>510604610You retards never explain the mechanism of the alleged horrors of hcfs, it just has a long scary title and sounds bad. Iโm against excessive sugar consumption of any kind.
>>510603472Nigger we used to grow sugar cane here, yes we can fucking grow it. These kike cornsloppers are just shitting their pants because corn has been propped up by subsidies for decades, it's literally free money they're worried about. We literally don't eat nearly enough corn at all, like 80-90% of the corn gets turned into HFCS, making it a cheap additive sweetener that you can put in anything. These corn faggots are just scared to lose their gibs and business poisoning us with goy syrup in everything we consume. Unironically growing literally anything else would be a better outcome for literally everyone except that fat faced goys who profit off big corn.
>>510604128>If you don't consoom the corn syrup you're an IndianCRAP aren't sending their best.
>>510596638 (OP)Just grow and refined sugar cane instead of whining.
>>510604545>corn-fed hands typed this postThe studies on goy syrup have been out for decades, that shit is poison.
>>510603195>Just remove the tariff.No thanks. All those faggot farmer cucks can grow beets for their bennies.
>>510604545So they're the same then? Great. Let's just use cane sugar then.
>>510605012NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS ALL THE SAME BUT YOURE A RETARD HICK FLYOVER MONKEY FOR NOT WANTING CORNNNNNNNNNN! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ANTISEMITISM!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S IT! HE'S ANTISEMITISM. PALANTIR BOT ASSEMBLE!!!!!!
>>510604700>No close enough works in chemistry and biology You can't even demonstrate your false claim that there is no difference between the types of sugars.
This is basic chemistry, you can just substitute one chemical for another and except the same result.
Now make with your proof of the that sucrose and glucose are processed the same by the human body.
>Russia primarily produces sugar from sugar beets, not sugarcane, and has seen significant fluctuations in production over the years, with a trend towards increased self-sufficiency. The country has transitioned from being a major sugar importer to a net exporter in some years.
How come Russian farmers can grow sugar beets but American farmers can only grow corn?
>>510596752Farmers are actually in the process of being replaced by Indians. My roommate was an Indian immigrant and he went to go manage a farm.
>>510596638 (OP)get fucked rural MAGA subhumans
suffer and die
>>510604835>meme flag>Zero comprehension of previous postsJeet confirmed, get back to work. That Ubereats order is not going to deliver itself.
>>510604700fructose is gay, simple as.
>>510597232corn is a very robust crop and can be crown in many latitudes
cane only grows in tropical climates, 90% of the land for growing corn is useless for cane
that being said: Americans eat way to fucking much of the stuff as is, I say get rid of the fucking subsidies and let crop growers go back to growing actual fucking food, corn sucks in everything but corn bread and grits
we need to have crops growing nation wide producing insane amounts of all kinds of food that we can dry and store long term, the very idea that the US doesn't have a ten year supply of food for emergencies is terrifying
and we're the number 1 exporter of food but some 30% of that is corn and basedbeans, we could grow so much more food with variation and nutrition if we stopped making 'farming' an easy job by just letting everyone plant corn and basedbeans on the public dole
>>510599662>2000 Aussies applied for farm work and farmers rejected all 2000 of them because they refuse to pay minimum legal wages.so what happened?
>>510605287Then donโt eat sucrose either since itโs 50% fructose, as is hcfs, approximately.
>>510603886>>510598062if im gonna drink something with the nutritional value of water im gonna drink water
if I'm gonna drink something with the nutritional value of black coffee im gonna drink black coffee
stop poisoning yourself with something that fakes being something that's poison anyway
>oh no our bullshit industry that has harmed multiple generations of americans is going poof overnight somebody gibs me daaaaat!
Fuck them. They can learn to code.
>>510604104>2. Do they observe crop rotation or they plant corn every single year?Most just rotate their fields between corn and soibeans. They'll plant about half of them in corn and the other half in beans and flip flop them every year.
reliance on one crop is what the British did to the Irish, Monsanto will not win every battle forever.
the Shepard has to be watchful every night the wolf has to get lucky once.
>>510605199Higher yield and warmer environment.
If you've ever seen what a corn field does at night you'd know.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PCbX6a_rrys&
>>510603472i would rather ban soda, honestly. It would help far more people than it would harm.
>>510605381Phenylalanine, aspartic acid and methanol are all found in nature, and they are the building blocks of aspartame.
>>510600378We have high tarrifs on it to protect sugar beet farmers.
>>510596734Agreed. The rise in America obesity parallels the increase of high fructose corn syrup in foods.
Fuck farmers.
>>510603886>possibleWow itโs fucking nothing
>>510605464Why don't we just go back to using lead for sweetener like the romans?
>>510605464carbon and nitrogen are both found in nature, they are the building blocks of cyanide
that's not an argument you retard look at the stick sometime and actually read it
>>510596638 (OP)>>510596698>>510596734>>510596752corn is dogshit, we're white we're not mayans, cant we grow anything else?
>>510596638 (OP)lol, fuck them
I'm tired of handing out "fell for it, again" awards. They voted for this, because they imagined other people would suffer more. They can choke on that corn.
>>510596638 (OP)I can't believe americans eat and drink the shit they do. Its filled with garbage, awful ingredients. Its not edible if you're not used to it. Syrup for example, makes drinks vile, its disgusting, literally turns your stomach
>>510597433Corn is heavily subsidized and has been ever since congress asked for "scientists" OPINIONS on what they thought caused heart disease and you had some radical vegetarian or vegan or whatever who told them it was fat that caused heart disease and the solution would be to switch to a sugar based diet. 0 scientific experiments that show fat causes heart disease and sugar based diet is better for you btw, and americans health has only declined after people started following the new dietary guidelines.
>>510605199Because the refiners start the growing season by offering contracts to farmers.
These contract place all the liability and cost of growing on the farmer, stipulation on venders they can purchase seed and chemicals from, yield quotas, quality quotas, etc.
If the growing season goes great a farmer can hope for 5-8% return on investment, a poor or shit year the farmer might break even or loose his ass. This is where the farm subsidy come in.
The refiner now gets a supply of corn for a fixed cost, and zero liability for crop failures. They then refine and sell with 10-30% profit margins.
This also happens with the sugar beet market in the US, the only difference is the farmers are all shareholders in the refinery and run their farms with illegal slave labor. The majority of control of these markets is still jewish controlled, even if the paper says someone else owns it.
>>510596638 (OP)fuck corn syrup
1980's we replaced cane sugar with HFCS and diabetes and obesity rates shot up and never came back down, the correlation is uncanny.
>>510597104Sugarcane barely grows in the US, only in the very deep south of Louisiana and Texas. Beet sugar is more abundant and cheaper but only grows in the Northwest. And corn (and onions) have been subsidized for a while now. These entitled cunt farmers have been given enough handouts. They make sweets companies forced to make their products unhealthier for muh GDP.
Because the corn subsidies and sugarcane tariffs aren't going away, I doubt they're going to start making regular Coke with real sugar. I'm guessing they're just going to start making their "Mexican Coke" (normally made with cane sugar and bottled in Mexico) in the US because of tariffs. It will just be an American-bottled real sugar variety like Pepsi has. They might switch to beet sugar if its cheaper.
If anyone's wondering, cane sugar and beet sugar should be the same health-wise. They're both just processed into pure sucrose. I'm not sure about pesticide content, though.
>>510605235>My roommate was an Indian immigrant and he went to go manage a farmSo he is supervising beaners picking almonds.
>>510605565It's a matter of efficiency.
Corn is simply the most efficient crop for multiple purposes. It can be dropped and used for ethanol production quickly.
What Americans are drinking is effectively the excess of the strategic fuel reserve. We drink diesel.
we can easily get enough sugar from beet farming. It's where we already get the vast majority of our sugar from anyway
>>510605561The amino acids are rapidly broken down by your body and are indistinguishable from other dietary sources. You consume much more methanol when eating fruit than any diet soda.
Glad I shorted corn futures. Made $4 million overnight. This is why I own you plebs.
>>510597104Sugarcane barely grows in the US, only in the very deep south of Louisiana and Texas. Beet sugar is more abundant and cheaper but only grows in the Northwest. And corn (and s.oy) have been subsidized for a while now. These entitled cunt farmers have been given enough handouts. They make sweets companies forced to make their products unhealthier for muh GDP.
Because the corn subsidies and sugarcane tariffs aren't going away, I doubt they're going to start making regular Coke with real sugar. I'm guessing they're just going to start making their "Mexican Coke" (normally made with cane sugar and bottled in Mexico) in the US because of tariffs. It will just be an American-bottled real sugar variety like Pepsi has. They might switch to beet sugar if its cheaper.
If anyone's wondering, cane sugar and beet sugar should be the same health-wise. They're both just processed into pure sucrose. I'm not sure about pesticide content, though.
>>510596638 (OP)Instead of making HFCS just turn it into ethanol...?
It's not that big of a deal. People have been switching from coke to coke zero anyway. Corn syrup is still going to be cheaper so it will find its way into other products
>>510605748See
>>510605734Its just the byproduct of strategic fuel production. They use it because it's cheap. Its cheap because it serves a "hidden" purpose. That purpose is fuel production.
>>510602920People would lose weight, we'd get more done in a day, and people would fuck more. This is a win-win
>>510605368>sucrose either since itโs 50% fructose, as is hcfs, approximately>approximatelyAgain this is chemistry, it is not horseshoes or hand grenades. There is no approximately or nearly.
Now back up you bullshit with actual sources else you are a confirmed shill spewing utter bullshit.
>>510597526Shhh anon you're not supposed to talk about that.
>>510596638 (OP)Corn should not exist as an industry if it has to be subsidized by the government. Same with milk. I thought you guys were against handouts?
>>510599333>The White population in the United States is declining as a percentage of the total population, with a decrease in the "White alone" population and an increase in the "White in combination" population. This shift is primarily due to increased diversity and is projected to continue, with the U.S. becoming majority-minority in the coming decades. Great timing
>>510605907Its subsidized for fuel production.
>>510605199God damn this thread is full of retards
We literally fucking do. God damn this board is shit. Also HFCS and sugar matter so little compared to Sneed oils in cases of diabetes and CMS and for fucks sake
>muh corn syrup is cheaper than real sugar
Go to the store. Buy a bag of sugar for $2. Take a teaspoon and count how many times you can scoop from the bag before itโs empty.
>>510604401>farmers are not going to be effectedkek
>>510605837You can grow sugar cane in every southern state from Texas to Georgia. You could just turn Mississippi and Alabama into the sugar cane versions of Iowa. They don't have anything else going on. Grow sugar beets in the northwest. Problem solved.
>>510606048It's cheaper for a processing plant to use. Just dump it into whatever slop they make. Where as sugar needs to be mixed with water and heated to dissolve, then dumped into whatever slop is being produced.
It's not that the product is cheaper, it's that the product is cheaper to use in a factory setting.
>>510605889I find it hard to believe that the extra two grams of fructose you get from hcfs 55 in coke versus cane sugar matters too much. Cane sugar is highly processed too! I never drink sugary soda, itโs not that hard.
>>510604700>>510605287There's lots of studies that show HFCS causes more weight gain than pure sugar does, so there's definitely something unique about it, but data just isn't conclusive about a specific cause. One theory is that the starchy byproduct it has can cause it. It definitely isn't the fructose, otherwise fruit would be unhealthy as well. Read Ray Peat.
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>>510605761>>510605464you're just sayin shit now I never mentioned methanol and I don't give a shit about methanol, it's garbage and if you're gonna put this much effort into defending garbage then you're a garbage person and now you've committed 2 fallacies newfag
>>510605837yeah it's just sucrose.
the thing is.. sucrose is a covalently bonded disaccharide. It requires an enzyme to break into it's constituent glucose and fructose. This gives your body a little bit of regulatory control over how fast it absorbs the sugar. Not saying sucrose is healthy, we still eat too much sugar in general, but it at least reduces the absorption rate if it has to be metabolized by an enzyme first.
HFCS on the other hand, is just a mix of the constituent monosaccharides. People who defend HFCS claim since it's the same monosaccharides it's nutritionally the same.
The difference is no enzyme is required your body has no regulatory control over how much of the sugars it absorbs, it's basically 100% instant absorbed. To further make matters worse, fructose in high concentrations contributes to insulin resistance directly.
It's fucking awful. Refined sugar is bad, but HFCS is outright worse.
So just grow sugar beets what's the issue? That shit can grow anywhere
>>510606268yup, it's the way to go, just grow sugar beets instead of corn
>>510596638 (OP)Fuck corn, fuck corn farmers, and fuck HFCS. Also, fuck jews and jew-adjacents.
>>510596638 (OP)HFCS is the goysloppiest of all jewish food science poisons. You need industrial equipment and a PhD chemist to even extract and produce it.
>>510606187I'm sure if people ate as much fruit.
Its probably a similar reason as to why $0ยฅ is so problematic. If it didn't have the problems it does it would damn neer be perfect. But if $0ยฅ was perfect every plant would be like onions.
If fructose was so good then plants would use it for things other than fruit.
>>510605458no fuck you, i am capable of enjoying one nice ice cold coke at the end of my day and you are not taking that from me because other people lack self control. i am tired of being punished for other people's behavior.
>>510596638 (OP)Some background. The US Federal Gov started pushing US farmers to grow cash crops for export. Onions and Corn are the big ones. No matter how much you grow, the Federal Gov pays you. The push to HFC as a sweetener was done to support them even greater. Farming used to be simple man's job but now they drive corvettes and own small yachts. They also don't live on the farms.
>>510596638 (OP)Sugar Farmers bout to be stacking cash
>>510605854That shit dries out rubber seals, it's just as demonic as HFCS. Corn also isn't healthy. Did you ever see a sexy girl eating corn on the cob? No, it's always fat old fucks because corn is trash.
>>510596638 (OP)GROW SOMETHING OTHER THAN CORN THEN FAGGOTS!!!!! Grow some fucking cannabis for fuck's sake. That is a rising industry. If your industry is propped up by government handouts you do not have an industry, you have a government program.
MUTTS MUST BE KEPT OBESE AND ON AN I. V. DRIP OF POISON, LEST THEY WAKE UP TO THE REAL "AMERICAN DREAM"
>MUTTS MUST BE KEPT OBESE AND ON AN I. V. DRIP OF POISON, LEST THEY WAKE UP TO THE REAL "AMERICAN DREAM"
MUTTS MUST BE KEPT OBESE AND ON AN I. V. DRIP OF POISON, LEST THEY WAKE UP TO THE REAL "AMERICAN DREAM"
>MUTTS MUST BE KEPT OBESE AND ON AN I. V. DRIP OF POISON, LEST THEY WAKE UP TO THE REAL "AMERICAN DREAM"
MUTTS MUST BE KEPT OBESE AND ON AN I. V. DRIP OF POISON, LEST THEY WAKE UP TO THE REAL "AMERICAN DREAM"
>MUTTS MUST BE KEPT OBESE AND ON AN I. V. DRIP OF POISON, LEST THEY WAKE UP TO THE REAL "AMERICAN DREAM"
MUTTS MUST BE KEPT OBESE AND ON AN I. V. DRIP OF POISON, LEST THEY WAKE UP TO THE REAL "AMERICAN DREAM"
>MUTTS MUST BE KEPT OBESE AND ON AN I. V. DRIP OF POISON, LEST THEY WAKE UP TO THE REAL "AMERICAN DREAM"
>>510606109Does it grow abundantly enough to feed the whole country? There's a reason why corn is subsidized and sugar cane isn't. Ideally yeah we should just isolate and drop subsidies, but soda companies want a certain price point, consumers want to pay a certain amount, consumers want to drink a certain amount, and most importantly, the government wants a certain GDP.
>>510598062I bought a Coke Zero with C-3PO on it the other day by accident. It was fucking gross.
>>510606185Again, this is chemistry. 2 gram difference with ingredients is huge.
Keep swinging.
>>510598433Not according to the label. Are you saying they're lying?
>>510606431During WWII when we brought german POWs to america they were very confused why they were being fed animal feed (corn). Yes i agree ethanol is bad aswell but at least you aren't eating/drinking fucking GMO corn. That being said why dont they grow better corn? The aztecs/mesoamericans survived almost exclusively on the crop, why not grow more "artisan" corn.
>>510606369>If fructose was so good then plants would use it for things other than fruit.We aren't plants retard
>>510596638 (OP)We grow heaps of sugar in Queensland. If you have trouble growing it there we could use the export ameribros
>>510606633Thats exactly my point. The plants are giving us the things that they themselves don't use unless it's to bait us. Baiting a fish and feeding a fish are to different things. The plants are baiting us not feeding us.
>>510598599Coke has a real sugar version too, if you live in a jew-infested city. Yellow cap has cane sugar because corn isn't kosher. The demon YHWH has some weird ass rules for his chosen goblins. Fortunately I have never seen this for sale because I live in a low-jew population zone. It's starting to all make sense why Trump is Making Coke Kosher Again.
TL;DR. It's the jews yet again.
>>510596638 (OP)First, Bode isn't a real surname. Second, since I can't find any info on this fuckin' faggot, he's most likely a top-shelf jew. Third, if this dude doesn't understand most of the sugar used doesn't come from corn, but white & orange sugar beets, and HFCS is only a byproduct of using corn as a feed grain, and a shitty one at that, he is beyond certainly a jew because only a kike could rise to the head of such an influential organization and be that fuckin' dumb. Fourth, and more importantly, we don't import cane sugar. The Southern US was one of the largest domestic producers (and still is) until jewish hegemony pushed corn syrup and forced all sugar to be brought in from random nowhere countries.
No farmer anywhere wants to grow shit dent corn. That stuff is only good in soups and as cornmeal, which is fucking delicious. Strange how the guy running the 'Corn Refiners Association' doesn't just accept his inevitable loss and spin up his machines into giant grist mills, which is cheaper, safer, and easier to do than what you have to do to make corn syrup. Not to mention, just like rapeseed (canola), you have to raze entire town's worth of fields to make enough syrup to make it worth selling, and you have to make sure no other corn ever shows up even a mile within your fields, or you're going to get cross pollination and it'll fuck up your harvest.
Meanwhile, beets can grow anywhere and you can eat the greens, which are delicious, and they have a short growing time, AND grow in winter/cold temps. Sugarcane grows proliferously like bamboo, and once you plant it, you'll have it forever because it spreads via rhizome. The sugar content is more concentrated and milder, not to mention you can just cut the fucking cane and eat it raw and get your fructose fix.
>>510596638 (OP)farm something else
corn syrup is an abomination
>>510596698Yeah ban high fructose corn syrop. You can't buy ice cream without that crap
>>510605837That's weird. I go through the coastal plain of North Carolina frequently.
There's a shitload of wild sugarcane growing there.
>>510604545>>510604700Sucrose is covalently bonded and has to be broken down by an enzyme, HFCS does not.
HFCS is also 5% more fructose, and fructose is worse for you.
You can say they're both bad which is true, but HFCS is worse.
>>510606837>corn isn't kosherCorn is kosher retard.
It just isn't kosher during Pesach.
>>510605837The sugar pepsi tastes great chilled. It's good otherwise.
>>510606585I think both of you faggots are retarded.
The problem is quantity per serving.
One can of Sprite, and you have 84% of your daily sugar.
Two cans of Sprite, and you have diabetes.
It's not hard to figure out how to solve this.
LIMIT SUGAR PER SERVING WITH REGULATION.
The chemistry means fuck all.
Corn syrup vs sugar cane sugar means fuck all.
They are still giving you damn near 100% of your fucking pancreatic/kidney system load in a single God damn can. It doesn't matter where it came from.
Both of you go read a fucking can of soda right now.
Retards.
>>510607113Considering how autistic the average Amerifat consoomer is people would lose their minds.
>dis sheit dun tayse dah sameThink of all the retarded niggers as well. There's reasons why American products have to have certain colors to them too. Were a country of fucking retards.
>>510596638 (OP)Fuck big corn amd these fuckers jobs. High fructose corn syrup is poison, I mean so is lots of cane sugar, but the latter is definitely better than the former.
>>510607011Nah sucrose is worse.
You get twice the amount.
The enzyme does play a part but not enough to say that its better BECAUSE your body has to break it down. The breaking down probably isnt the problem.
For the record I think that sugars in general are bad in large natural amounts. Unless you are finding a sweetener that isn't a sugar you're not going to get anywhere. It's the sugar AND the amount thats the problem not the sugar in any form itself. We need to cut out sugar and with it any artificial sweetener aswell.
That being said cane sugar cola just tastes better. I imagine if somebody took out all the fructose from juice and replaced it with cane sugar people would complain.
>>510599801Beets will grow just fine in cornfields and are easily made into sugar.
>>510599273>>510596638 (OP)>>510596829>>510599706>>510599536
>>510598062>not drinking Coke Zeroever seen anyone slim drinking coke zero? and no you're not slim, fatass.
>>510607236If it's limited by regulation it will only take like 90 days, and everyone's taste buds will renormalize and we can stop this shit.
If people still have issues with it, I have another simple solution, and it will give the farmers something else to grow.
Add in Miraculin.
Farmers can grow miracle berries.
Look into it.
It's the correct solution.
Source: I'm a fucking genius that does nothing but think of ways to solve humanity's problems, but I hold no position of power, and I can't be fucking bothered to go get in people's faces.
>>510596638 (OP)Hahaha fuck Kansas. Grow something else you government handout leaches
>>510596638 (OP)what kinda corn do they use to make corn syrup?
>>510596638 (OP)YES FUCKING FINALLY REAL COKE IM GUNNA FUCNKING CRY TRUMPY MAN WE WINNING!!
>>510607275you don't get twice the amount.
HFCS is 45% glucose, 55% fructose as monosaccharides, it's basically predigested, it gets immediately absorbed through the stomach lining.
Sucrose is 50% glucose and 50% fructose
Gram for gram sucrose you get 5% more glucose and 5% less fructose basically, which fructose is converted to glucose but free fructose is associated with increased insulin resistance.
The need for sucrase to break down is not night and day difference, IE you can't just drink mexican coke with impunity and not get fat, but it does slow it down a little.
Drinking mexican coke vs hfcs coke over a period of time you're going to do worse on the HFCS when it comes to diabetes and obesity.
>>510596638 (OP)fun thing about farming is you can plant a variety of crops over and over again in the same parcel of land. Corn farmers are well set up seeing as they already have irrigation pivots. They just need to switch to a different crop
>>510607343its just the jews wanting to keep us on hfcs
>>510605464>Phenylalanine, aspartic acid and methanol are all found in nature, and they are the building blocks of aspartame.actually how fucking retarded are you
>>510596638 (OP)> high fructose corn syrupLinked to metabolic desease - _one_ of the numerous reasons why we have picrel.
These (farmers) sold their soul for a buck.
>>510596638 (OP)Learn to grow sugar beets.
>>510606991>>510607113>>510607379>Namefagging>R3ddit spacing>Just grow tropical berries Back to r3ddit troon
"Corn syrup is good for you"
>corn salesman
>>510605837>Beet sugar is more abundant and cheaper but only grows in the Northwest.Not in Northeast? Why? I thought beets grow everywhere where it's sufficiently cool and watered.
>>510606268Can't sell them diabetes meds if you do that. It's called horizontal integration: same people that own big agro also own big pharma. Having healthy, strong nation is bad for (business) and bad for (politics): testosterone makes people vote against open borders and communism.
lot of sheltered suburbanite retards in this thread, kek
>>510608136>Having healthy, strong nation is bad for (business) and bad for (politics): testosterone makes people vote against open borders and communism.I may have not been clear enough: I am referring to the fact that men nowadays have 60% lower testosterone than men in 1950s. Food is one of the big reasons.
>>510596638 (OP)Corn farmers should be administered their own corn cobs
>>510608235Cigarettes is the reason.
>>510596638 (OP)Trumps a pedo, but fuck those corn shucking faggots, HFCS is the edible jew and needs to be eliminated. If they care so much, turn it into ethanol
>>510604545There's residue of the chemicals they use to make the starch into sugar. Ever wonder how they can make fructose out of a grain when a starch molecule is made up of glucose only?
>>510596638 (OP)Listen to their kvetching.
>>510606586That's an export recipe made specifically for the taste it is now known for in the USA
Regular c*ke is a garbage mix of HFCS, Sucralose, and Aspartame, not even kidding
>>510603737this you cant get me for the likes to drink aspertame or any of those artificial sugars. utterly disgusting and make my tummy pain
>>510607015FUCK YOU I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOUR BULLSHIT SCHIZO JEW SHIT. Excuse me for not knowing the specifics of the actual depths of their/your mental retardation.
>It'S KoSHer, bUt iT iSN't koShEr dUriNg a sPecIfiC tImeFraMe as pEr oUr FaKe g-D's rUles tHat We mAde uP fOr OuRsElveS to bEnD
Imagine being pro-corn syrup, what a fucking retard, we should all point and laugh at him.
>>510596638 (OP)So grow sugar, stupid.
>>510608571Tumors secrete testosterone.
Cancer gives you testosterone.
Cigarettes in general elevated testosterone levels and cause cancer.
People in the 50s smoked like chimneys.
>>510609970You're not the guy I asked. I don't think that's right.
Imagine drinking brown industrial chemicals.
>>510596638 (OP)TRUMP
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>>510610183this, we should all just enjoy drink the corn syrup just to own him
absolute clown world where people are debating which poison to put in their goyslurp
>>510603288your tractor isnt picking strawberries or tomatos
>>510596638 (OP)>all with no nutritional benefit.That's just bullshit. First of all cane sugar aka table sugar aka saccharose is sweeter, so you need less of it to achieve same level of sweetness -> you can get same sweetness of product with less calories -> less fat people.
Also fructose which corn syrup almost entirely is, is one of the fastest metabolizing sugars, meaning it spikes your blood sugar faster and will spike your insulin levels and done repeatedly, will cause type 2 diabetes.
The only way to stop type 2 diabetes from happening is to immediately exercise after ingestion of large amounts of fructose, thus fructose, dextrose and other such fast-metabolizing sugars dont belong in anywhere else but sports drinks meant to be drunk right before or during exercise.
>>510596638 (OP)This is one thing I side with Trump on. Export that shit to our client states or something.
>>510599723Hello new fren
there is no difference between coke with corn syrup and coke with cane sugar. the acid turns them both into fructose and glucose
https://youtu.be/NY66qpMFOYo
>>510603288We can eat $2 cheeseburgers too without any mexicans or "nightmare meat plants" (it does take some subsidies though, but literally every 1st world country does those for food security purposes).
It's all a jewish hoax that you need non-whites in society, perpetrated by jews who don't want White ethnostates to exist because that'd count them out.
White people can do every job there is in a society and having non-whites around actually ends up COSTING us, and I dont just mean in decreased wages and increased cost of housing, but also we actually need to pay more taxes (or have more money printed, lessening value of the currency, which is an indirect form of tax) to upkeep them all.
World is so full of jewish lies because jews are still breathing. If all jews were killed we'd run the world with much more rationality because we wouldnt have jews lying all the time and every time.
>>510610706There is also the fact that you can simply grow sugarbeet when its too cold to grow sugarcane, its the same type of sugar (saccharose) in both.
So I don't understand what the farmers are whining, if they're in the south just switch corn to sugarcane, or if they're in central or north usa, just farm sugarbeet.
Hell, we are growing all our sugar domestically as sugarbeet, and we live in the fucking Arctic Circle, with incredibly short growing season for the little bit we aren't covered in snow.
We make it work here in these hostile conditions so what the fuck are they actually complaining.
Seems like bunch of whiny pussies to me.
>>510601299Checked. Not caring what end products your crop ends up in because sweet sweet subsidies is pathological
>>510610814The right answer to that is in the comments though. Yes the hydrolyzation can break down SOME of the sucrose(saccharose) to fructose+glucose, but not ALL of it.
Unless the chemical reaction was 100% complete, that all of the sugar would have broken down to fructose+glucose by the acid, the sucrose is still better.
Note that video maker uses retarded form of testing, he only tests for the existence of fructose and glucose, which obviously will exist, but he does NOT test for existence of sucrose.
>>510596638 (OP)Grow something else, faggots.
>>510602713>food and beverage companies should be allowed to put whatever unhealthy slop they want into their products!
I just hope they go back to putting cocaine in it too
>>510611001>So I don't understand what the farmers are whiningIt's not farmers, it's corn syrup refiners whining.
>>510611875They still have Pepsi
>>510598062i used to drink it and took a break from any artificially sweetened drinks. i've occasionally tried to drink coke zero afterwards but it makes me feel sick and it's a chore to drink. i'm starting to believe the cancer studies.
>>510596638 (OP)Are you shilling for corn syrup
Corn has multiple uses
The reason why they use corn syrup is itโs cheap. They can put a hundred times more sugar into food or drinks making you addicted to their products.
Profits stay up. Health goes down
Hospital profits go up
Your ability to live without government assistance goes down
Itโs systematic destruction of the free world
>>510596638 (OP)>Replacing high fructose corn syrup with cane sugar doesnโt make sense
>>510610814Pure fructose is the reason you're so fat.
>>510611875Why can't they move to refining cane/beet sugar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx-QrilOoSM
It's simple.
Stop putting fructose into everything
Stop mutilating male infant genitals.
Stop fighting wars for israel.
Just stop.
>>510612375Whoa cool it with the antisemitism
>>510612375Well that's all anti-semitic. The fructose and shitskins will keep on flowing.
Only killing all the jews will allow us to actually fix the world.
As long as we have NPCs thinking that "no it can't be, we surely don't have to kill all the jews, some jews are good, blah blah" its only going to get worse.
>>510596638 (OP)>market for product opens up>be little bitches instead of growing marketWhy are Americans like this? Youโre like shitskins, you could just grow real sugar and get rich as fuck, but youโd rather eat your own shit.
>>510612278They can.
But doing so they will loose their monopoly for supplying the processes food market, with that they loose their ability to bribe government for protection and gibs. Also they won't have the resources to bury research that opens them to liability.