Hi /pol/, /his/ oldfag here

I'm pretty bored right now, and I know this is probably an exercise in futility but I've got nothing better to do right now. So I wanna ask you niggers

Why do you do shit like deny the holocaust? I don't know why you guys think there's some big conspiracy in academia and things are being "Covered up", because if you actually interact with historians, and academia in general, well, academics love to jump at the opportunity to disprove shit if they can. Historians included. And historiography is a big part of being a historian, that is, analyzing historical sources and understanding biases they might have had and how and why they might have been mistaken. But, y'know, they also look at evidence and stuff too, but in areas where there's not as much sources there's some pretty big arguments, mainly in ancient history where sources are much more scant

But there's loads of evidence about shit like the holocaust, and things you think "disprove" it in reality really don't, because if it was that easy, historians would've shat on it long LONG ago. But if you actually look into these claims, as in, actually do proper research, you'll find they either have a reasonable explanation or are complete bullshit to begin with

I'm gonna assume most readers are not flat earthers. But you've seen how they argue and their "proofs" right? Which are all bullshit but they behave in a similar manner as you nazi niggers do when it comes holocaust denial, citing random ass memes and infographics that vaguely sound smart and could be "proofs" to the incredulous and that maybe an average person wouldn't have an immediate response to, but if you actually analyze it and dig into it, you can find the claim is bullshit or misleading. It's literally the same shit with the stuff you use as "evidence" the holocaust never happened, it's the same kind of stuff as flat earth "evidence" with about the same credibility

Do you know how impossible it would have to be to fake something like the holocaust? Do you know how many people would have to be involved in the conspiracy?

To fake the Holocaust, a conspiracy would have to fabricate or falsify:
>Eyewitness testimonies, over 100,000 survivor accounts across Europe, including Jews, gypsies, political prisoners, homos, disabled people, and even former Nazis at the Nuremberg trials
>Tens of thousands of nazi documents, including orders signed by Himmler, Eichmann and others, along with train schedules, construction orders for gas chambers, Zyklon B purchase records, camp logs, census data, and death registers. All of these are stored in multiple independent archives, in numerous different countries
>Photographs & Film, like liberation footage shot by US, British, and Soviet troops, most of it shown shortly after it was filmed. Aerial photographs of Auschwitz taken by Allied spy planes during the war. German soldier photo albums, many of which were privately kept and discovered after the fact
>The physical sites, mass graves, gas chamber ruins, crematoria, and camps still preserved, along with numerous forensic reports

The US, UK, Soviet Union, France all documented and confirmed Holocaust atrocities. Are we supposed to believe opposing Cold War nations conspired together to fake this?
Also, the entire journalistic and academic community. INdependent historians across decades and countries may nitpick at some minor details but generally agree on the core facts

You'd need literally millions of people to be "in on it" including
>Survivors, liberators, war crimes investigators
>Allied soldiers
>Clergy who reported atrocities
>Local populations across Poland, Ukraine, Germany, France, et cetera
>Archivists, journalists, historians across decades
>Nazi defectors

I actually don't understand why you niggers deny it considering you all want to kill all the jews anyways. It's far less mental gymnastics to embrace it and be proud of it

>>510599266 (OP)
>well, academics love to jump at the opportunity to disprove shit if they can.
wrong, most adults do anything to maintain their prior biases, regardless of education level i would even argue that higher intelligence correlates to higher levels of self deception or rationalization

The holocaust was the narrative jews used to justify the destruction of Germany by the allies, the demonization of right wing politics and the sanctification of jews. It has nothing to do with concentration camps or that some jews died in the war. As the central piece in the post-WW2 new world order, it was instrumental in the creation of the of left's new religion where whiteness became the original sin, Hitler the Devil, right-wing politics demonic, racism the greatest evil, jews the gods and the destruction of Western culture the ultimate redemption.

It was a very clever way to enslave an entire group of people without them even noticing.

Some jews died in WW2. Some jews (rightfully, just like US Japanese were) were held in camps in WW2. Some jews starved in camps in WW2. Jews were not gassed by the millions. There were no 'extermination camps'. There was no systematic effort to exterminate all jews by the Germans. There was no 6 gorillion. Jews in camps had typhus and camps were de-loused with Zyklon B just like people, ships and warehouses were all over the world.

The Germans were blockaded and starving, therefore their prisoners starved as well. The combination of typhus and starvation due to the blockade and 24/7 nationwide bombings cutting supply lines and crippling the nation resulted in a lot of prisoners dying. In order to decrease the rate of typhus infection the bodies of the dead were burned, just as the allies did when they captured the camps. The concentration camps and deaths of some jews (likely around 300,000 maximum) was real. The 'holocaust' is an event GREATLY exaggerated in order to increase jew political power and their ability to manipulate others to their benefit post-WW2.

300+ must-know Weimar, WW2 and holohoax redpills with sources:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/391009291

I'm just here for the memes

>>510599266 (OP)
We don't "deny" anything it's an objective fact the holocaust never happened and is blood libel propaganda used to justify every evil action Israel and jews take thankfully the world is increasingly seeing the truth.
Watch Europa the last battle for an easy understanding

>>510599341
>To fake the Holocaust, a conspiracy would have to fabricate or falsify:
>>Eyewitness testimonies

>>510599266 (OP)
Nice wall of text bro.
Summer is almost over
Stay strong

>>510599266 (OP)
The holocaust happened the only debate is whether 6 million people died or 6ish.

>>510599408
"The holocaust was the narrative jews used to justify the destruction of Germany by the allies."

Germany was already destroyed by the time the Allies, either Western or Comintern, discovered a single camp. It was very, very late war.

>>510599266 (OP)
This is an exercise I futility, trust me. These gay niggers hate facts and sources and for a group of niggers that really hate trannies so much, they really only base their convictions and principals on how they feel in the moment. You'll only find fickle retards with jewish levels of pure spite.

>>510599266 (OP)
Denying the holocaust has become an over arching term to deride people that question the particulars which makes people just throw their hands up and say "yours full of shit".

Bump.

>>510599575
>jews kill 60 million people. No big deal
>whine endlessly that their entire population was destroyed but they still seem to be doing a lot better than the whites fare in the nation's they destroyed without a peep
I simply don't care that some communist jews got killed after communist jews destroyed like 2 continents.
Not my fault. Not my problem. I'm sure it will happen again since they haven't changed and still thing they are gods chosen.

>>510599509
>We don't deny the holocaust! [denies the holocaust]
ESL or just retarded?

>>510599408
I appreciate you anon doing this for so long

>>510599266 (OP)
>Why do you do shit like deny the holocaust?

No proof it happened

>>510599389
Yes historians will argue about shit all the time, see pic related for an example. Ancient stuff where sources are more scant have a lot of controversey & debate around them

Historians even today debate on certain aspects of the holocaust, certain minor details, but the broad facts are pretty widely accepted because there's literal mountains of evidence for them, and if it was as easy to poke holes in it as /pol/ claims then historians would be shitting on it on the regular

If the holocaust really was as "unquestionable" and as much of a conspiracy as you niggers claim, then historians wouldn't have revised the number of people who were sent to Auschwitz from 4 million to 1 million, and wouldn't say the "turned jews into soap thing" was just atrocity propaganda and not real. If the holocaust is as you say, then these revisions never would have happened but this shit is constantyl analyzed and scrutinized by historians and other academics and academics love to poke holes in things if they can

Hell >>510599524 is a perfect example, if the holocaust was as you say it was then historians wouldn't claim this specific eyewitness account doesn't match up to evidence. Which I know what you nazi niggers will say, but there's hundreds of thousands of eyewitness accounts, one or two might not necessarily be reliable but hundreds of thousands more are, especially when backed with other evidence, of which there is plenty

>>510599408
These "redpills" are pretty much bs, it's literally the same style of argument that flat earthers make, things that can vaguely sound convincing to a normie but if you actually dig into it you'll find it's bullshit. Shit, if you niggers have something specific to show me I can give a perfect example of what I'm talking about. You niggers say 'do your own research" but will uncritically believe random bullshit posted by anonymous strangers on a mongolian basket weaving forum

>>510599341
>muh WW2
We are in WW3 right now my dude
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/508326092/#508328873
But don't worry it should be over by September

>lying this much
it just isn't worth it

Jews coordinate lying at the genetic level, much like the pajeet

>>510599389
Classic fallacy of composition. The way to greatness as an academic is to overturn the conventional wisdom with good evidence, that's the whole basis of peer review and the scientific method.

>>510599408
This, subversive elements were moved to internment camps. It was closer to 270,000.

>>510600426
I fucking hate communist niggers just as much

>>510599266 (OP)
I actually think the Jews did it to themselves as justification for the creation of Israel and to whine about the fact that the Germans were tired of the bankers profiteering of of their suffering post WWI. I mean let’s be real here why wouldn’t Jew, who are norotious liars and cheaters, also not try to fuck over their own? Especially when Ashkenazis and Khazars are not the same as Edomites?

>>510600322
no one cares about your arguments kike, you lost the thread, soviet propagandists can get a bullet in the head

>>510600747
Don't you Nazis fuck kids?

>>510600553
>>510600658
Hello where are the proofs

>>510600747
I hate communist niggers just as much, they're just as retarded as you fags, they're historylets too who deny the holodomor instead of the holocaust (and other atrocities committed by Stalin)

>>510600322
>historians wouldn't claim this specific eyewitness account doesn't match up to evidence
This is antisemitic.

>>510599341
>>510599266 (OP)
>jews died to cartoon style guns and masturbation machines

>>510601030
Yes and they also got turned into bars of soap and lampshades and were gassed using fake showers and holocoasters. And trust me, Historians will totally argue about this even though if any of them seriously tried to question any of this then they would get instantly canceled for being an antisemitic nazi and their career would be forever destroyed and everybody knows it.
Remember when the Nobel prize winning scientist James Watson had his prize revoked and his reputation tarnished for acknowledging the reality of the link between genetics and intelligence?
You're not allowed to question anything that goes against the neoliberal world order or else you'll lose your career. Period

>>510601030
>Said no historian ever
No academic believes that shit

>>510601315
As I said before, copying and pasting what I said previously

If the holocaust really was as "unquestionable" and as much of a conspiracy as you niggers claim, then historians wouldn't have revised the number of people who were sent to Auschwitz from 4 million to 1 million, and wouldn't say the "turned jews into soap thing" was just atrocity propaganda and not real. If the holocaust is as you say, then these revisions never would have happened but this shit is constantyl analyzed and scrutinized by historians and other academics and academics love to poke holes in things if they can

>>510599341
Old fag, huh?
Lurk moar.
Someone posts this same shit every goddam day.

>>510601030
>cartoon style guns
this one is literally a JIDF disinfo meme, the claim appears nowhere but the gay meme.

There are still plenty of holes and exaggerations and self-serving bullshit and lies involved in the mainstream Holocaust narrative, don't get me wrong, just please don't muddy the waters with this double BS fake ass shit.

>>510601394
>academics love to poke holes in things if they can
they also love to keep their jobs if they can.
this is one topic they cannot touch if they want to keep their job or get one at the academy in the first place.

>>510601504
I've seen this shit before. I was just waiting for one of you niggers to actually post some "evidence" to give an example of the kind of bullshit I'm talking about, how these "proofs" are flat earth tier

If you ACTUALLY DO YOU RESEARCH and look at what the World Alamanac actually says (like pic related, from the 1948 edition), it will say the data is based off of the last available data from 1939. It extrapolates from there based off of normal population growth

The World Almanac does not cite a source for its figures. It did not conduct a census, it did not contact an organization that did a census, and it did not go through records

This is what "doing your own research" actually means btw, instead of randomly believing memes posted by randoms on a bangladeshi sewing forum

Retarded nigger

>>510599266 (OP)
>Reddit spacing

>>510602005
newfag, "reddit spacing" has always been on 4fuck

>>510602098

>>510600322
I guess there isn't a need to pass laws against questioning it and one should conclude that an effort to shut-down scrutiny is a tacit admission that the whole narrative is bullshit.
Pic related.

>>510602098
lol I am sure you meant to underline the year, not the hour. well done, it logically tracks that you are not the kind of person to pay attention to detail. if you did you would know holocaust indeed is exaggerated and narrative shifted entirely.

it is ok, though. not everyone has to be good at noticing things. I am sure you are good at a lot of other things.

>>510602322
All the countries that make it illegal to deny the holocaust also make it illegal to deny other genocides too like the holodomor, and other atrocities. It's not a shoah specific thing. I personally think it's counterproductive, but these places do it because it's an insult to the people who were victims of these genocides and basic human dignity. Plus, the people who deny these genocides aren't doing it for strictly academic reasons, they have ulterior motives, because all you fucking niggers who deny genocides say "it didn't happen but they deserve it"

Which I don't understand honestly, because in the minds of all the genocide deniers I've encountered, the genocide didn't happen but they wish it happened, and it's literally less mental gymnastics to just embrace it and be proud of it. But what else can you expect from retarded faggots

>>510599266 (OP)

TLDR; I'm not coming to work at your plastics factory, Dad!

>>510599266 (OP)
>>510599341
The Holocaust itself, even taking the official story at face value, is a giant conspiracy. Somehow, in 4 years, Germany was able to cover up and keep secret a giant mass extermination operation even from the Red Cross. Do you realize how impossible it would be to cover something like that up for even a year, that you can even fool international organizations?

So what kind of argument is that?

>>510602621
It seems you started your post with horse shit.
In Germany it is illegal to question the holocaust.
In Germany it is illegal to classify holodomor as a genocide.
Would you like to revise your entire post?

>>510602621
>a shoah specific thing.
That is shoah a specific word to use "/his/ oldfag" anon. Us goyim call it the Holocaust. A good way to remember it is it sounds like "Hall of Costs," which would of course be a similarly terrifying thing to a jew.

>>510599481

>>510599266 (OP)

Fuck off boomer, I don’t give a shit what your weak generation did

>>510602822
Germany literally recognizes the holodomor as a genocide, and it's illegal to deny it as well, idk what fucking reality you live on, the most basic of research tells you this

>>510602761
The allies knew. Letter from Winston Churchill to Foreign Secretary Eden on November 7th 1944

"There is no doubt that this (referring to the persecution of Jews in Hungary and their expulsion to the camps) is probably the greatest and most horrible crime ever committed in the whole history of the world, and it has been done by scientific machinery by nominally civilised men in the name of a great State and one of the leading races of Europe. It is quite clear that all concerned in this crime who may fall into our hands, including the people who only obeyed orders by carrying out the butcheries, should be put to death after their association with the murders has been proved. I cannot therefore feel that this is the kind of ordinary case which is put through the Protecting Power, as, for instance, the lack of feeding or sanitary conditions in some particular prisoners’ camp. There should therefore, in my opinion, be no negotiations of any kind on this subject. Declarations should be made in public, so that everyone connected with it will be hunted down and put to death"

>>510603147
Now that we have that out of the way, do you find it odd that scrutinizing historical events that play a large part in a countries foreign policy is illegal?

>>510599266 (OP)
why are 1938 jew population numbers so well known
but 1940 jew population numbers are 'plagued with lack of documents'
while the main argument is that the nazis kept such perfect records we know how many died.

This is cognitive dissonance.

how do the jews out segs genocide

they just play games by obfuscation as always

>>510599266 (OP)
I ain't readin allat nigga. Sage bitch

>>510603147
It's odd he would say it was the most horrific crime given we had multiple genocides exceeding the barbarity of the holocaust before and also given the fact that they had zero evidence for these claims before the soviets first reports months later.

>>510602621
I call into question the holocaust due to the lack of compelling evidence. Your assertion that it must have happened because there is some consensus among experts is a logical fallacy.
When did the so called experts push back against such recent phenomena as transgenderism or climate change or taking experimental vaccines?
The lack of dissent doesn't prove a concensus, it just reinforces the notion that it is career suicide if you go against the orthodoxy.

>>510603147
>Expulsion to the camps
Devils advocate here, that mentions nothing at all about them killing Jews. He is simply saying they have been kicked from their houses, had their property expropriated and have been sent to camps. I interpret that as him being hot headed saying they deserve to die for it. There is no mention at all on his end of extermination.
That being said, maybe you can confirm this, but is it true that Winston Churchill didn’t mention the Holocaust at all in his giant multi volume memoirs he wrote shortly after the war ended?

>>510603147

>>510599266 (OP)
Nobody actually doubts there were camps and fucked up places shoes( whoops jews is what I meant I guess they're propaganda got to me too) were killed what everybody knows is that the figure of 6 million is a lie it's an impossible number if you do the math in any kind of way the Germans couldn't have done that I'd say at the most 30 to 50,000 died jews push the Holocaust narrative in order to get sympathy worldwide and obtain protected status for all Jews basically they guilted us into leaving them alone and not letting anybody fuck with them.

>>510603469
>>510603147
Misread the quote in the post, sorry. Even still, the parenthesis is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that quote.

>>510599266 (OP)
>>510603522
oldfag doesn't mean pedokike boomers.
stop letting jews troll you on pol.

>>510599266 (OP)
>Why do you do shit like deny the holocaust?
because it didn't happen and because you're a kike, end of

>>510603522
While they are the perpetrators of histories worst genocides. This is what people don't bring up. Jews have been the perpetrators of the worlds worst genocides while having corned the market on genocide sympathy....and are currently engaged in another gencoide.

>>510599266 (OP)
/his/ was the worst board added post Hiro

>>510599266 (OP)
You're a fuckin' midwit.
Surest sign of a midwit online?
Walls of text.

Smart people are succinct people.

Holocaust didn't happen the way it's claimed.
>Cremation numbers impossible.
>Current global Jewish population too high if they'd actually been genocided.

There were internment camps and typhus broke out because of allied bombing everything behind that is dramatization

The jews also deserved to be expelled and put in labor camps

80 gorillion lives lost on the shnitzelcoaster for lamp shades

>>510603262
The nazis didn't keep records of every single jew they killed, they documented a bunch of other stuff but they didn't document literally every single jew they killed, and the number we have is based off of a combination of

>Pre vs postwar census data
>Nazi documentation we do have
>Jewish Community Records and Postwar Studies
>Documentation Created by Resistance Groups

>>510603469
>>510603542
The letter was in written in the light of the news about the deportations of the Hungarian Jews to Auschwitz, especially after parts of the Auschwitz escapee reports had been published. The parenthesis were added to provide context

Minor mistake on my previous post btw, I said the letter was from November 7th but it was actually July 11th (it was me getting confused by American vs European dating formats) 11/7/1944

Pic related is Churchill writing a letter to Lord Melchett two days later (July 13th) where he more or less repeats the essence of his letter to Eden

Also, Winston Cuhrchill did mention the holocaust in his memoirs after the war ended, the claim he didn't is bullshit and the most basic of research would show that. From the first chapter of "The Gathering Storm"

>Crimes were committed by the Germans under the Hitlerite domination to which they allowed themselves to be subjected which find no equal in scale and wickedness with any that have darkened the human record. The wholesale massacre by systematised processes of six or seven millions of men, women and children in the German execution camps exceeds in horror the rough-and-ready butcheries of Genghis Khan, and in scale reduces them to pygmy proportions.

>>510603513
>>510603522
Niggers with machetes in Rwanda killed 500,000 and 800,000 people in 100 days, in a backwater African shithole. And you're telling me one of the most advanced states in the world couldn't kill 7-12x that many in 20x the time (1939-1945) with machine guns and poison gas?

>>510599266 (OP)
90% of this board is retards, case solved.

>>510599524
Imagine completely serious movie adaptations of some of these stories.

>>510602926
I said shoah for the meme, same as you guys do

>>510603756
Sorry to say but this is cope, reality is complicated and when you simplify you can leave out a lot of important context and information. If a few paragraphs is too much to read then that shows what kind of person you are

>>510603855
Hello where are the proofs?

>>510600322
>one or two might not necessarily be reliable
Even when you're saying it's a ratio of five orders of magnitude difference you still cant bring yourself to say that even that tiny number is just fucking lies.

take your gay and retarded ass back to r*ddit; this place is shitty enough as it is

>>510604673
I fucking hate Reddit. Why don't you niggers stay out of /his/? I'm sick of seeing you faggots shit up the board

>>510604499
>what is you specific theory of what occurred?
>exactly how many died?
>where are the remains?

Holocaust? Never happened.

>>510604499
Jews should pay reparations for the genocides they commit if they want to be compensated for the holocaust. Until that happens they are full of shit.
What a convenient people. It wasn't my religion that committed a genocide, it was my race. It wasn't my race that committed a genocide it was my religion.
How about this. We pass an international law that if you claim to be a jew you are both the race and the religion which is also linked to israel. No more dual citizenship. All or nothing. Like god intended his chosen to be. Representatives of the most high.

>>510604031
>Niggers with machetes in Rwanda killed 500,000 and 800,000 people in 100 days
I didn't say that it was an impossible feat, I remain unconvinced that it happened. What evidence are you relying on that can't be explained away by allied bombing of critical logistical networks? Airplane gun and bombing footage of German infrastructure isn't hard to come by, anon.

>It was real in my mind goy just look at the testimonies

like the eagle and the bear story?

>>510605077

>>510605148

>>510605186

>>510605204

>>510605227

>>510605257

>>510605281

There's no such thing as a /his/ oldfag becuase it's a newer board. Theres no such thing as a /pol/ oldfag either for that matter. Same for most other boards. You can be an oldfag who's main board is /his/ or some other board, or maybe even say oldfag from /his/, but /his/ oldfag is self contradictory.

>>510605304

>>510605077
Checked. I killed that bear, knocked him right in the head with a dreidel from my sling like David vs. Goliath. Then I made big shekels selling the meat to my fellow hungry campers. True story, hard to believe but did really happen.

>>510604031
So you are just saying they made the numbers up?

>>510605326

>>510605352

>>510605341
And thus he became known as the bear jew.

>>510605341
Truly the most powerful race
>>510605350
a zionist jewish rabbi Stephen Wise made up the 6 million number in 1943.

>>510605406

>>510605585

>>510599341
>Eyewitness testimonies, over 100,000 survivor accounts
If they wanted to commit a genocide, how are there so many "survivors"?
>former Nazis at the Nuremberg trials
oh those same trials that involved destroying officers testicles to get them to confess to these "crimes"?

>Tens of thousands of nazi documents, including orders signed by Himmler
like the order explicitly calling to reduce the number of deaths at the concentration camps? taking actions like using Zyklon B to reduce the spread of disease in the camps?

>Photographs & Film, like liberation footage shot by US, British, and Soviet troops
yes take photos of a nation that is currently losing a war on 2 fronts and whose own citizens are starving, obviously the prisoners in the camps would also be suffering in this situation

>US, UK, Soviet Union, France all documented and confirmed Holocaust atrocities
so let's go into why each of these nations would have reasons to fabricate this
>US
Communist and Jewish takeover of the elite class
>UK
Jewish takeover of the elite class and geopolitically opposed to the rise of a united central european power
>Soviet Union
Jewish takeover of the elite class and wanting to take any eyes off of their own atrocities
>France
The natural opponent to Germany

these aren't trustworthy sources

>>510605611

>>510605406
This is the one I was talking about here >>510601657
What book is that text from? Not a real book? Post the source or stop posting that gay and fake meme.

>>510605630
>oh those same trials that involved destroying officers testicles to get them to confess to these "crimes"?

Also the same trials that didn't require any actual evidence or proof

>>510599266 (OP)
>Why do you do shit like deny the holocaust?
Because not only is there no evidence of Holocaust claims, the evidence we do see actually disproves it.
There is no Prussian blue staining within the brick walls of the alleged gas chamber walls, compared to confirmed delousing chambers that have blue staining penetrating all the way to the exterior side of the wall.
There is no physical evidence of any of these claims. Additionally, the alleged homicidal gas chambers weren't explosion-proofed with the light bulbs and fixtures, which in this era would ignite and blow if filled with gas.
There are no written orders from Hitler or any Reich official explicitly ordering the Holocaust.
The British cracked the German's "Enigma" encryption code and had access to their secret uncensored communications, and the Nazis said nothing about gassings, just deportations.
>muh eye witness testimony
All contradictory, inconsistent, and full of lurid and fantastical claims. Also, going by this standard, you have to believe in UFOs and Bigfoot based on all the eye witness testimony.
>muh confessions
Testimonies and confessions made under duress go right in the trash.

If you affirm the Holocaust, you reject all standards of historical academic research and objective pursuit of truth.

>>510605652

>>510605844

>>510605888

>>510605982
We all know children, with their smaller lungs and vascular system need more poison. It's soience!

>>510599266 (OP)

>>510605982

>>510606209

>>510606274

>>510606291

>>510601394
>they had to walk back lies they told earlier
This isn't the own you think it is.

>>510606318

>>510606349

>>510606386

>>510606410

>>510602621
>All the countries that make it illegal to deny the holocaust also make it illegal to deny other genocides too like the holodomor, and other atrocities. It's not a shoah specific thing
Being authoritarian and anti-free speech with multiple blood libels doesn't excuse banning opinion dissent.

>>510599341
>Do you know how impossible it would have to be to fake something like the holocaust?
About as hard as faking the 9/11 attacks, which they managed to pull off and blame on the towelheads.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4qwfH7QVpXM

https://archive.org/details/TexeMarrsWithGuestVictorThorn-TheZionistPlottersBehindThe9-11

Israel has a long history of using false-flag attacks against us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
>The Lavon affair was a failed Israeli covert operation, codenamed Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the summer of 1954. As part of a false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian-, American-, and British-owned civilian targets: cinemas, libraries, and American educational centers. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents", or "local nationalists"...

Let's not forget the USS Liberty:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YZYjRREqUF0

Israel's attack on the USS Liberty was a failed attempt at a false-flag operation. The plan was to sink the Liberty with no survivors and blame it on the Egyptians so that the U.S. would bomb Cairo and send in troops. Fortunately, the Liberty survived (but with 34 dead and 171 wounded). Unfortunately, shabbos goy President Lyndon Johnson (whose mistress, Mathilde Krim, was a Mossad agent) made sure the entire incident was swept under the rug, and the crew of the Liberty was threatened with court martial if they spoke to the press about what happened.

Here are some of the people who helped plan the 9/11 false-flag operation and carry it out: Ehud Barak, Ariel Sharon, Binyamin Netanyahu, Dov Zakheim, Michael Chertoff, Philip Zelikow, Ehud Olmert, Larry Silverstein, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and George W. Bush, along with the scores of Israeli operatives arrested by the FBI but ordered released by Chertoff and returned to Israel where they were lionized.

>>510606436

>>510603147
Nothing in that fat fuck's quote says anything about gas chambers.

>>510599266 (OP)
IT'S FUNNY AND GETS PEOPLE MAD
FLAT EARTH ONLY MAKES PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE STUPID

>>510606410
>he hanged a man by the hands until his arms were shot through then hanged him by his feet and did the same
This seems so crazy until you realize how retarded it is.
This is performance art that would sparked a riot. Die one way or the other. We have riots every other week for less.

Here's the REAL holocaust:

A quarter million jews in the camps who died of starvation and disease at the end of the war, along with a million or so German Gentile civilians. Everyone was starving then.

Tens of thousands of jewish partisan fighters killed by the Einsatzgrupen. This was similar to our own special forces in Vietnam going around killing villages of VC. Nasty but pretty much standard procedure in war.

>>510599266 (OP)
>Why do you do shit like deny the holocaust?
why do you do shit like reddit spacing?

Holocaust denial is a cynical cope invented because Nazism would otherwise be completely morally indefensible to all but the most antisocial personalities unless it’s discredited.

>>510599266 (OP)
You really find it hard to believe that powerful interest groups would have a vested interest in overplaying historical events to further their power?

>>510605040
Refer to my second post in this thread

>>510605630
>If they wanted to commit a genocide, how are there so many "survivors"?
Why are there many survivors of other genocides?

>The stuff about torture
Proofs?

>like the order explicitly calling to reduce the number of deaths at the concentration camps? taking actions like using Zyklon B to reduce the spread of disease in the camps?
Lol there's plenty of German documentation detailing the holocaust & the extermination. I mean basic research can show you specific things, I'll post an example later

>Photographs & Film, like liberation footage shot by US, British, and Soviet troops

I mean they show more than just "starving people" but ok

>The shit you say about the different countries
What is more reliable?
>people who have studied the topic for decades
>chudslop
If it was as bullshit as you say and as easily disprovable as you say it'd be shat on by historians

>>510605711
>There is no Prussian blue staining within the brick walls of the alleged gas chamber walls, compared to confirmed delousing chambers that have blue staining penetrating all the way to the exterior side of the wall
Technically true but this comes from the "Leuchter Report" which has been shat on extensively, including by other holocaust denialists. The cause of this is the different time periods for exposure to hydrogen cyanide in the disinfection chambers and the gas chambers. The gas was used to kill people in the gas chambers for half an hour a day, while the duration of disinfection in the disinfection chambers was, in line with the standard procedure, 24 hours, which is 48 times as long.

Holocaust denier Robert Frenz, who also happened to be a professional chemist, even shat on Leuchter's analysis

http://web.archive.org/web/20120510073015/http://www.resist.com/libertybell/LB-199302.pdf

I might provide a few interesting excerpts from this, but it's a lot of words and I have a character limit per post

>>510608740
> Israel commits a war crime
>"guizes!! The holocaust"
>media is in lock-step about how it's antisemitic to say "hold on now, that's illegal" because of muh holocaust
I'm starting to think the holocaust happened a long time ago and it's very relevant in terms of current event crimes jews are committing.

>>510609130
>Technically true but this comes from the "Leuchter Report" which has been shat on extensively, including by other holocaust denialists.
By Germar Rudolph, who identified and corrected errors in methodology done by Leuchter. He did not contradict his findings, he scientifically confirmed it with proper methodology and scientific work.
>different time periods for exposure to hydrogen cyanide in the disinfection chambers and the gas chambers. The gas was used to kill people in the gas chambers for half an hour a day, while the duration of disinfection in the disinfection chambers was, in line with the standard procedure, 24 hours, which is 48 times as long.
This is a made-up assertion to account for lack of blue staining. What basis are those numbers and exposure times and amounts? How does one know it requires less gas concentration to kill rooms full of human versus bugs in clothes? Please source the scientific research and experimentation that proves those claims.
Even if we took all that bullshit for granted, there'd still be staining in the walls over years of gas exposure and the daily batches of thousands of kikes getting gassed. Instead, we see nothing. This is utterly devastating to your entire narrative.
>Holocaust denier Robert Frenz, who also happened to be a professional chemist, even shat on Leuchter's analysis
Germar Rudolph has accounted for all this and compiled all evidence and arguments in his book "The Holocaust Encyclopedia." It's also free in a pdf form.

Gonna respond to poster bNZsOw1Q who I see is the fan of "baffle them with bullshit" strategy. I'm not gonna respond to every single thing, but I'll cover things generally

A lot of this has to do with testimonies, and something to note is that the survivors would often repeat rumors they heard in the camps, which might not have necessarily been true, but in an enviornment like that you can imagine how rumors spread. These testimonies are not taken at face value by historians but analyzed critically and in conjunction with other evidence to form a conclusion

>>510605077
Example here, Hubert I'm guessing believed a rumor that had spread in the camp due to the presence of a zoo there in Buchenwald (which was recreation for the SS guards, the prisoners didn't have access to it, before you retards jump on this), and I can imagine a rumor would spread about them putting jews in the bear cage, and this guy believing the rumor. Believing in something false, however, is not the same as being an unreliable witness. One could believe that the Earth is 6000 years old and still be a reliable witness about a specific murder

>>510605148
Same thing here, is this guy seeing it firsthand or is it hearsay? When analyzing the testimonies one has to be very careful to differentiate between the first-hand parts of them and the hearsay parts. Notably, like so many garbled descriptions of the extermination process, the "holocauster" is likely based on some sort of a core of truth, namely, the description of the wagons rolling towards the ovens is probably based on the actual corpse wagons used in the Auschwitz oven rooms. Such descriptions might have traveled through several levels of distortion (due to language differences etc.) which might have resulted in the "holocauster" rumor

(cont)

>>510599266 (OP)
Ground penetrating radar found no soil disturbance.
Where did the alleged bones and ashes go?
Why would the Germans put so much money and time to move the jews to a few specific spots to kill them through holocoasters, throwing babies Infront of machine gun fire and gassing them with Zyklon-B?
Additionally why are there no reports of redden/purple skin of people gassed with Zyklon-B, when there are reports of this?
Zyklon-B (Hydrogen cyanide) is a delousing agent used to stop typhus from spreading.
>They starved them to death.
The allies bombed the infrastructure.
If it's a death camp why did people get moved back and forth from different camps?
Why are all the "death camps" located on the eastern side where the soviets got to the camps, but the ones the US and red cross checked wasn't death camps?
The soviets killed slavs in the east and blamed it on Germany multiple times aswell.

And lastly
>wooden doors

You call yourself/his/torian, but that does not make you correct on historical events.

>>510609917

You can appeal to the book title if you want, but only the content of the testimony can decide this, the person who collected these bits and pieces in one book could have easily been mistaken (or overgeneralizing; it's just a book title, not a precise mathematical treatise)

A lot of the other posts are similar in character, I'm not gonna bother responding to all of them, but believing they prove the holocaust is false is like believing that the falsity of the "Angels of Mons" rumor proves WW1 was false

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1260673

>>510605630
>>510605711
Gonna post contemporary German documents about the holocaust

The Franke-Gricksch Report was written by SS officer Alfred Franke-Gricksch following his visit to the Auschwitz concentration camp in May 1943. The translation is as follows

Jewish resettlement action.

The Auschwitz camp has a special task in the settlement of the Jewish question. The most modern methods make it possible to implement the Führer Order very quickly and discreetly. The so called “resettlement action” for the Jews proceeds as follows:

The Jews arrive in special trains (goods wagons) towards evening and are taken by a special line to a special area of the camp. There they are unloaded and examined by a medical board in the presence of the Camp Commandant and several SS leaders in the first place to see if they are fit for work. Here anybody who can be integrated into the work process in any way is sent to a special camp. Those with some temporary ailment are sent immediately to the quarantine camp and are brought back to health through a special diet. The basic principle is: keep as many prisoners as possible for labor. The “resettlement action” of the old sort is completely rejected, for it is not permissible to systematically destroy substantial labour capacities.

(cont)

>>510610482
The unfit go to a biggish house, into the basement rooms, which are accessible from the outside. They descend 5 or 6 steps and come to a long, well built and ventilated basement, fitted with benches on the right and left. It is brightly lit, and above the benches are numbers. The prisoners are told that they are to be disinfected and washed ready for their new tasks. They therefore have to undress completely to be bathed. In order to avoid any panic or disorder, they are told to arrange their clothes neatly and leave them under a number so that they can find their things again after the bath. Everything proceeds in complete calm. They then go through a small corridor and arrive in a big basement room that resembles a shower room. In this room, there are three big pillars. Into these it is possible from above, outside the basement, to lower certain products. After 300 to 400 people have gathered in this room, the doors are closed and from above the containers with the products are lowered into the pillars. When the containers reach the floor of the pillars, they produce certain substances that put the people to sleep in one minute. A few minutes later, the door on the other side is opened, leading to a lift. The hair of the corpses is cut off and the teeth are broken out (gold teeth) by qualified people (Jews). It has been observed that Jews have hidden jewels, gold, platinum, etc. in hollow teeth. After this the corpses are loaded into the lift said go to the first floor. There, there are 10 big crematorium furnaces in which the corpses are burned. (As fresh corpses burn particularly well, the whole process requires only ½ to 1 Zentner of coke). The work itself is carried out by Jewish prisoners who will never leave this camp.

The result to date of this “resettlement action”: 500,000 Jews. The present capacity of the “resettlement action” furnaces: 10,000 in 24 hours.

>>510610152
I think the holocaust is unimportant. It's not a particularly egregious genocide considering the genocides that came directly before it or the ones directly after it. It's not current. It's especially egregious to speak on it considering the complainers are currently engaged in one.
>wahhh genocide is bad when it happens to us but the world needs to fund ours
Not a good look, heebs. Not a good look.

>>510607948
The holohoax is a cynical cope because the destruction of Germany by the jews' military Alliance would otherwise be completely morally indefensible

>>510610482
>>510610554
I can post MANY more contemporary German documents detailing the holocaust and the extermination and gas chambers. YOu niggers who claim that there are no nazi documents detailing them are retarded

>>510610029
>Why are all the "death camps" located on the eastern side where the soviets got to the camps, but the ones the US and red cross checked wasn't death camps?

The extermination camps were all in Poland, y'know, the place with the highest concentrations of people the nazis wanted to kill. YOu'll notice how the camps in Germany proper the soviets had gotten to were not extermination camps but concentration camps, the commonality of all the extermiantion camps was that they were all in Poland

>If it's a death camp why did people get moved back and forth from different camps?

Those were concentration camps, not extermination camps. The people there were used as slave labor. People weren't moved from the extermination camps

>Wooden doors
Come on now, a modicum of basic research can tell you why this bullshit. I can spoonfeed you if I have to, but it's not that fucking hard to find out what the deal is with the wooden doors. I was actually impressed I haven't heard it until now, since that's one of the more retarded nazi claims

>>510599266 (OP)
>historians would've shat on it long LONG ago
You faggots are currently saying Africans built Britain.

>>510599266 (OP)
>Why do you deny the holocaust?
Zero real evidence.

>>510599266 (OP)
Shut up nerd.

>>510599266 (OP)
>Why do you do shit like deny the holocaust?
Because most /pol/niggers are genuinely retarded, and on top of that, have an aversion to learning or knowing

>>510600322
>there's literal mountains of evidence for them
Post it then.

>>510599266 (OP)
>Why do you do shit like deny the holocaust?
There is no reliable evidence that it happened.

>generic rational skeptic talking points
No one cares. It's not 2010 anymore. Even normies are starting to realize how academia works after the COVID fiasco. Pic related is what society should and will do with all the toilet-paper-tier research kike institutions keep pumping out.

>>510610817
>I can post MANY more contemporary German documents detailing the holocaust and the extermination and gas chambers.
And also prove that they are real, right? No? :^)

>>510610482
The FGR is fake.
https://www.holocaust.claims/auschwitz-birkenau/the-franke-gricksch-report/

Reminder that holocaust historians rely on the historical equivalent of Twitter screenshots for their evidence.

>>510609917
>uh Chud testimonies prove the Holocaust! We don't need physical proof at all of our ridiculous claims, any ridiculous claim a jew ever made is true because they are the chosen people
>uh actually Chud testimonies don't matter especially when they're ridiculous we can just dismiss them

pick one

>>510610482
>>510610554
>The Franke-Gricksch Report

AHAHAHAHA holy shit, imagine using a debunked Nuremberg era hoax document as "proof"

>>510599341
>Do you know how impossible it would have to be to fake something like the holocaust? Do you know how many people would have to be involved in the conspiracy?
After COVID I think it's pretty clear that it's actually quite simple to push a propaganda narrative for the benefit of people in power and silence and dissenters. Push the message long enough and it becomes fact regardless of how utterly ridiculous it is.

Frankly almost everything we have about the Holocaust comes from either
1. Jews who use it in the same way as a twisted creation myth to completely demonize non-Jews and justify countless atrocities committed by Israel, or
2. the Soviets who were leading the world as pioneers in altering history. Literally constructing fake buildings then rounding up eyewitnesses who described in detail the atrocities the Germans committed in them.

We did the exact same rounding up and internment routine to the Japanese, but we didn't lose the war.

>>510611659
I mean there's plenty of physical proof, and the testimonies weren't taken uncritically, like, historians take into account whether things were seen firsthand or just hearsay. We have testimonies from Sonderkommandos who had to work there for months, in some cases years, and the chances of misinterpretation were nil. Which aligns with the physical evidence too

>Franke-Grickshe is fake
Lol ok. I don't know where the fuck yoru screenshot is from, I also am going to go to sleep soon too, so I'll be checking out. There's a post here that goes into extensive detail on how we know that report is real, I don't expect you to read it, but on the off chance there's someone who's non retarded who might be interested

https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2019/08/nazi-document-on-mass-extermination-of.html

I'm going to sleep

>>510610817
>I can post MANY more contemporary German documents detailing the holocaust and the extermination and gas chambers. YOu niggers who claim that there are no nazi documents detailing them are retarded
Posting fake shit kinda undermines your credibility.

>>510612550
>there's plenty of physical proof
Name one.

>>510612550
>we know the report is real a jew with a blog said so!

ok run away, bitch

>>510599266 (OP)
Tldr.
Get a job.

>>510602098
Amazing bait

>>510612550
We accept your admission of defeat. Nighty-night.

>>510599266 (OP)
It didn't happen, but it should've.

510610817
510610934
If the men who died on beaches of Normandy could look at you today they would be disgusted.
All fields.

>>510600322
>your own research
DID YOU FIND A DEBOONK FOR THE NEWSPAPERS THAT SHOW 6 MILLION JEWS BEFORE WORLD WAR 2? I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT THAT BUT NEVER BOTHERED TO CHECK MYSELF BECAUSE I SIMPLY ASSUME THAT ALL HOLOCAUST DENIAL WILL BE PROVEN FAKE AND GAY UPON FURTHER RESEARCH ANYWAY. DID YOU LOOK INTO IT AND FIND ANYTHING, PERCHANCE?

>>510600550
no, academia is a limited hangout where if you dont have the right credentials and arguments, your ideas are moot or verboten. do you think there is a gender studies' student somewhere who is working to undermine feminism from within and will receive accolades for deconstructing the philosophical core of feminism? no they are agents of a political agenda and they dont give a fuck about "truth"

>>510601394
you literally lose your job and your life if you question it. an air force colonel was recenlty let go for daring to question US foreign policy and how we prioritize Israel over the US. that's the reality of the situation. even if a historian could demonstrate the holocaust is obviously nonsense as its presented to us, they would never be able to present their findings without serious consequences to their lives. this creates a chilling affect on historical progress in this area, and makes all "historians" look like status quo holder uppers, or narrative writers, like in 1984 changing the "history" as you go

>>510599266 (OP)
>Ctrl + f
>Haavara Agreement
>0/0
imagine that.

>>510618387
holy shit lol, doesn't this just completely invalidate the claims of genocide?

>>510599266 (OP)
> anon takes /pol/ seriously
Fag is right
Kys

>>510618506
20 million Europeans died to make Isreal.

>>510599266 (OP)
>academics love to jump at the opportunity to disprove shit if they can
apparently you jump at the opportunity to prove already proven historical events. Its questionable to say the least.

>>510599266 (OP)
Dude, it never happened. But it should.

>>510599266 (OP)
Total false equivalence flat earthers are fucking retards who have to bent reality and physics to make their stuff work just like the people who believe the bullshit that is the official holocaust narrative. The camps were real but not built the way they've been rebuilt and the only jews that died had perished from starvation and disease like many Germans themselves did. Jews got babysat and got way better treatment than actual Germans in many cases and should have never been used as a workforce or deported they should have all just been killed.

>>510612550
>that pic

So now he's a better dressed National Socialist on the right?

>>510618960
so was hitler a zionist asset?

>>510599779
I was taught to practice hegelian dialectic and to understand thoroughly all sides of every issue that's why I became a National Socialist. The only people who are still not National Socialists are the confirmation bias retards who require consensus cracking and making laws against questioning their bullshit and don't care about truth. National Socialism is the truth, it's what you get once you understand every ideology perfectly and are looking for the answers to all the flawed systems. Also if I went by feelings than I wish the fucking holocaust happened, it's extremely inconvenient to me that it did not happen.

>>510619534
what is the difference between zionism and nazi national socialism?

>>510599266 (OP)
Not a nigger, just a British jeet, and I've watched you rewrite history every day in front of me very eyes, I do not believe the garbage stuff you've manufactured over a century ago.

>>510600322
How come we can question every single aspect of history without being thrown into jail except for jewish history?

>>510619534
(You)

>>510599266 (OP)
I doubt there's a lot of people who think the holocaust didn't happen, period.

What they do have a problem with is that the numbers are fucking made up.

>>510599341
Lmao look how these kikes act like I don't have eyes, nigger the entire media behind the Russia Ukraine war is all propaganda, we don't know what's actually going on at all, both sides claim to be winning. Imagine pretending that you need such a massive amount of things to be in place for something to work when we can see that people's interests converge and they push those lies that are in their best interests.

Every day I live is another day I witness more and more extreme lies, we can't even get the truth from Epstein and JFK from our government, but you expect me to believe we need inordinate amounts of people to come together to do something impossible in keeping a secret lmao get fucked.

>>510601857
Lmfao you're seething because no one wants to believe your kike lies and pilpul weird word play bullshit where you frame the narrative with unbelievable garbage. I'll take an estimate based on 1939 before I believe six gorrillion were slaughtered in six ovens.

>>510603147
Lmfao Churchill, the guy who was desperate to start a war with Germany and get America involved. Hahaha.

>>510605630
Based and actually believable truth here.

>>510601857
> your sauce is gay and homosexual
> my sauce is not gay and homosex but I won’t cite it
> fedoratip

>>510599266 (OP)
>academics love to jump at the opportunity to disprove shit if they can
I'm not even going to read the rest of your bullshit because the very foundation of your position is demonstrably bullshit. Academics do not "jump at the opportunity" to disprove anything because it's not in the interest of advancing their career. You gotta get along to get anywhere and poking your head up by pushing paradigm shifting positions is the surest way to get hammered back down. To be in a position to challenge anything "credibly" you have to be established within academic circles and to get established you have to invest so much you're unlikely to ever dare step out of line for fear of losing everything you've spend the last 2 decades slowly accumulating. I know a lot of people in academia and I know damn well what they truly believe and what they are willing to say in their professional capacity. They'll barely make out of consensus claims regarding the most mundane abstruse topic that has no bearing on anything anyone is invested in or cares about, what the fuck makes you think they'll break with consensus on a white hot topic like the fucking holocaust? I know you fuckers like to act naive but we both know you know the score.

>>510599266 (OP)
>today I will make bad arguments to defend a topic I oppose
Good job op and Heil Hitler.

>>510599266 (OP)
>historians love debunking things, chud :^)
Yea, shit with 0 stakes. You're being coy and pretending hard power and mafias don't exist which is simply just wrong and cringe and reddit. Kys faggot.

Here is a holohoax "expert" getting btfo and exposed. All you faggots have for the holohoax is bullshit impossible testimonies from kikes or Germans in custody of their enemies.
The gas chamber hoax was exposed by Carl Montonio and Geimar Rudolf.
No cyanide residue. Impossible.
https://odysee.com/@RizoliTV:d/Mike-Enoch-vs-Matt-Cockerill-Holocaust-Debate%2C-June-17%2C-2023:d

>>510599266 (OP)
youre not an oldfag just because youre old, fag.

academics was co-opted by kikes in the 1800s. why else would everyone be an ignorant drooling retard? yes thats right, all of history is a lie of kike consensus forming

>>510599266 (OP)
You are a faggot, kill yourself.

>>510599341
Every fucking kike on earth repeats lies about being slaves in Egypt and lies about Abraham making foreskin deals with Yahweh and lies about race and lies about the Talmud and lies about being Kazars and lies about influencing Greek philosophers and lies about the history of Palestine. What's 1 more collective lie? Why is this one impossible but all the dozens of others worked?

>>510599341
>Do you know how impossible it would have to be to fake something like the holocaust?
i thought id get further than this, oh well

>>510599266 (OP)
i really think the holocaust was greatly exaggerated and used since ww2 as a mechanism for accumulating more power to jewish interests and israel and shielding jews from criticism

>>510599266 (OP)
Academia has lost all credibility, for one thing. It's been rife with PC culture since the 70-80s and only gets worse with every generation. You got shit like "feminist tap dancing with elements of critical race theory and black feminist thought" and you think people are going to listen to you? What is a woman?

Personally I don't find the 6 million figure to be that outlandish, but not being allowed to question something raises a few questions, don't you think?

>>510599725
The narrative of nazis exterminatimg the jews was created long before the allies flund a single camp.

>>510599341
>scna wall of text
"the holocaust did happen bro"
>ok
>doesnt bring up tangible evidence
>challenges /pol/ to a semantic argument
kek, you are one typical fucking retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5FqpElkK0

>>510599779
I trust that you are a massive faggot that sucks his dog dry every day. Germany dudn't try to exterminate jews but they should have.

>>510599266 (OP)
Jews deny the Holodomor.

>>510601394
>>510600967
>>510600607
>7▶
>File: Nazi and tankie retardation.png (973 KB, 2301x1617)
>>>510600426
>I fucking hate communist niggers just as much
>>510600322

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER IM SO EDGY HAHA LOOK /POL/ IM JUST LIKE YOU NOW LISTEN TO ME
commit suicide, you pathetic waste of sperm.

even if it were real, yidsrael exterminating people right now denies them any victimship that mightve occured. maybe hitler was right wanting to rid himself of pests?

Thanks OP for making this thread. I had never really looked down this rabbit hole before but some of the posts arguing against the official narrative have been interesting to say the least.

>>510599266 (OP)
First post of this vid was pre 2008 Boston law

>>510599266 (OP)
>Hi /pol/, /his/ oldfag here
>I'm pretty bored right now, and I know this is probably an exercise in futility but I've got nothing better to do right now. So I wanna ask you niggers
>Why do you do shit like deny the holocaust? I don't know why you guys think there's some big conspiracy in academia and things are being "Covered up", because if you actually interact with historians, and academia in general, well, academics love to jump at the opportunity to disprove shit if they can. Historians included. And historiography is a big part of being a historian, that is, analyzing historical sources and understanding biases they might have had and how and why they might have been mistaken. But, y'know, they also look at evidence and stuff too, but in areas where there's not as much sources there's some pretty big arguments, mainly in ancient history where sources are much more scant
>But there's loads of evidence about shit like the holocaust, and things you think "disprove" it in reality really don't, because if it was that easy, historians would've shat on it long LONG ago. But if you actually look into these claims, as in, actually do proper research, you'll find they either have a reasonable explanation or are complete bullshit to begin with
>I'm gonna assume most readers are not flat earthers. But you've seen how they argue and their "proofs" right? Which are all bullshit but they behave in a similar manner as you nazi niggers do when it comes holocaust denial, citing random ass memes and infographics that vaguely sound smart and could be "proofs" to the incredulous and that maybe an average person wouldn't have an immediate response to, but if you actually analyze it and dig into it, you can find the claim is bullshit or misleading. It's literally the same shit with the stuff you use as "evidence" the holocaust never happened, it's the same kind of stuff as flat earth "evidence" with about the same credibility

>>510599266 (OP)
No one legitimately argues that jews didn't die in WWII. No one argues that there weren't camps where jews were held. And no one argues that some weren't executed. Every denial revolves around a combination of actual numbers, methods, and orders. And, try as you might, I challenge you to find good, unbiased data (on either side) on those subjects. Original data that hasn't been amended, corrected, or altered. There have already been very public firsthand accounts that were admittedly false. If one is false, then we know others were false as well. But just how many? And that's where the whole thing becomes a quagmire. Because we now know SOME data is incorrect.

>>510599266 (OP)
Total Kike Death heals the world. The Holocaust didn't happen, but it should have.

>>510599266 (OP)
tldr
nigga heil hitler

>>510599266 (OP)
If it happened, the extent has been massively overstated and illogical. Questioning it has been made illegal. Therefore it didnt happen. And if it did, the tone deafness of Jews justifies it in and of itself; I believe they were literally talking about gassing gazans in tunnels.