Thread 510633293 - /pol/ [Archived: 379 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: WUpfFdtw
7/17/2025, 5:01:00 PM No.510633293
BalticStates
BalticStates
md5: ff07bbf75ae8e26a3a7a1fb466ab78a1๐Ÿ”
What do you think of the Baltic countries?
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Anonymous ID: iKkVLJ9DFinland
7/17/2025, 5:02:03 PM No.510633389
Nobody needs them. Even the balts themselves want out
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 5:02:17 PM No.510633417
Index_of_GDP_per_capita,_2024_(purchasing_power_standards,_EU_indexed_at_100)_v2
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 5:03:14 PM No.510633505
>>510633389
Only Latvia. Estonia didn't have large exodus and Lithuanians are returning to Lithuania. Latvia is quite screwed.
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Anonymous ID: WCCOenLXFinland
7/17/2025, 5:04:20 PM No.510633586
>>510633293 (OP)
Cheap alcohol and hot women. Most of the men are either depressed or just assholes.
Anonymous ID: 2QV7A/H9Estonia
7/17/2025, 5:08:22 PM No.510633884
1746543374243965
1746543374243965
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>>510633417
how the fuck did lithuanians get ahead of us economically?
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Anonymous ID: 31NrcJmVPoland
7/17/2025, 5:10:02 PM No.510634018
toilets
toilets
md5: 958d0628476b2f9b4877b98b1b9340ad๐Ÿ”
post-soviet shitholes with still very noticeable soviet mentality (homo sovieticus) and plenty of russians
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Anonymous ID: Wt7AI5szUnited States
7/17/2025, 5:12:14 PM No.510634185
>>510634018
They are nicer places to live than Poland and you are never getting Vilnius back lenkas
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Anonymous ID: AR1TzsgZUnited States
7/17/2025, 5:12:31 PM No.510634206
I don't.
Anonymous ID: hli2clvSLithuania
7/17/2025, 5:12:46 PM No.510634221
>>510634018
i would be surprised seeing any other flag than poolish
Anonymous ID: ZOI66TNMUnited States
7/17/2025, 5:14:01 PM No.510634308
irrelevant
Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 5:21:00 PM No.510634859
real gdp per capita 2024 PPP eurostat
real gdp per capita 2024 PPP eurostat
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>>510633884
Depends on the metric
Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 5:21:32 PM No.510634895
real gdp per capita 2024 eurostat
real gdp per capita 2024 eurostat
md5: 5be85dbc050e323e4d744c596607c5d3๐Ÿ”
>>510633884
Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 5:22:15 PM No.510634958
GNI PC
GNI PC
md5: 4538a26fe34973de161bb57ed081d86e๐Ÿ”
>>510633884
GNI PC
Anonymous ID: b3n00svNUnited States
7/17/2025, 5:22:40 PM No.510634987
>>510633293 (OP)
Chicken.
Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 5:24:03 PM No.510635091
Single
Single
md5: ee84d0f0589ec1807975719ea2862c86๐Ÿ”
>>510633884
95 - 2025
Anonymous ID: 81ntkwIaLatvia
7/17/2025, 5:41:35 PM No.510636399
>>510633884
Probably because Estonia doesn't have an equivalent to Maxima Group, by Baltic standards it's an absolutely massive corporation, Bolt doesn't even come close.
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 6:06:20 PM No.510638324
>>510636399
Lithuania has Teltonika and other very specialist manufactures/designers in niche industries. Lithuania is closer to Poland and Germany, while Estonia has historically been linked with Finland. Both Estonia and Finland have not been doing well economically. Estonia has had high inflation and low or negative growth since covid. Lithuania was the only Euro country along with Ireland to have GDP growth in 2020 when covid hit. In 2024 Estonia had negative growth, while Lithuania grew by around 3%.
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 6:09:03 PM No.510638536
AI SLOP
AI SLOP
md5: 8024b59b9234040fb827092bc027064d๐Ÿ”
>>510636399
AI SLOP answer from OpenAI o3
Anonymous ID: aimFjMDyUnited States
7/17/2025, 6:09:35 PM No.510638586
>>510633293 (OP)
I donโ€™t think of the Balkan countries.
Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 6:10:27 PM No.510638648
AI SLOP 2
AI SLOP 2
md5: b77393d8df14eb8d264075062cf716a9๐Ÿ”
>>510636399
Anonymous ID: FJMStOzI
7/17/2025, 6:10:58 PM No.510638690
Poland3
Poland3
md5: 226652f39832ade005ce09e4e1faf1c1๐Ÿ”
>>510634018
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Anonymous ID: 31NrcJmVPoland
7/17/2025, 6:12:45 PM No.510638840
Cold War bulwark of NATO
Cold War bulwark of NATO
md5: 8939575b0ed3b1224912d1a4e7fd0a4c๐Ÿ”
>>510638690
except we'd already zoomed past ukraine over 20 years ago already
they were already looking up to us during the orange revolution of 2004
ukraine even has plenty of natural resources, Poland has none

fun fact - in 2023 Poland surpassed Russia in total export value, kek. also 51% of our export value is created by domestic Polish-owned companies
38 mil ppl with 0 natural resources except their superior culture intellect and hard work
vs
145 mil niggers with >9000 natural resources
>510626847
Poland's GDP surpassed $1 trillion, the public sector budget is nearly half of that so almost $500 billion
Not only does GOYMANY NOT finance even half of the eu gibs (so how can you impudently assert you're financing anything alone), the eu gibs come out to barely $14/mo per person and gibs-wise per capita Poland is middle of the rank, Hungary gets half of what we do despite having only a quarter of our population for example
Compare this meager pittance of $14/mo per person to the $250/mo we get from the State as child allowance per every child in a household from 0 to 18/24
>>510634185
Wilno under shithuanian occupation not only does not have a metro, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TRAMS
Anonymous ID: 31NrcJmVPoland
7/17/2025, 6:14:31 PM No.510638992
>>510638324
>Lithuania has Teltonika
lolwat
completely irrelevant
fun fact - Poland controls your entire oil market & all refineries
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Anonymous ID: 2xHzutqwPortugal
7/17/2025, 6:15:47 PM No.510639065
>>510633293 (OP)
how are baltic women?
Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 6:16:41 PM No.510639132
pl-lt
pl-lt
md5: 16c6fae68b9cbd2e411aef4e68db4a39๐Ÿ”
>>510638992
Orlen is a multinational company with each subsidiary run independently.
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Anonymous ID: 31NrcJmVPoland
7/17/2025, 6:22:20 PM No.510639596
>>510639132
it's a Polish state-owned company lol
multinational in the sense it's a global giant, yeah
we also own Czechia
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Anonymous ID: yacYQH7aLithuania
7/17/2025, 6:22:59 PM No.510639645
1460318981038
1460318981038
md5: d3863859d654cf6613a3d782d1473c2b๐Ÿ”
>>510638992
>>510639132
>>510639596
shut the fuck up
Replies: >>510640069
Anonymous ID: 31NrcJmVPoland
7/17/2025, 6:25:42 PM No.510639831
ij
ij
md5: 5c1b1c63487990568d872ed626583fc9๐Ÿ”
net average monthly salary, nominal in euros
prices in shithuania are 30% higher btw & the average home has an asbestos roof & 11% of lithuanians don't have an indoor flushing toilet

Poland also has a higher HDI
check out this thread >>>/trv/2800970
American anon crossed the border from Poland to Lithuania, noticed it's more dilapidated with 30% higher prices
>>Total spending for two weeks: 2383.6 PLN - $658 USD - $47 per day
>>Is $60 USD per day cheap to you? That's about what I'm averaging in Lithuania for a barebones non-dormitory travel experience. Staying in the cheapest private rooms reservable online and located somewhat near the city center. Cooking cheap ingredients in cramped kitchens. Drinking a can of supermarket beer now and then. Mushrooms and berries from the farmer's market were my only splurge. The shared bathroom with its vile basket of asswipes smells horrible. When you are unable to patronize any local businesses due to budget constraints, you might as well wander around for a day or two, see the sights and then move on.
btw, yes:
>WTF lithuanians don't flush the toilet paper? like in fucking India? is it some Soviet pipe legacy?
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 6:27:07 PM No.510639938
>>510639596
It's a publicly traded multi-national with subsidiaries in different countries. It's not owned by "Poland", it's owned by shareholders. Learn basic facts, retard.
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Anonymous ID: 31NrcJmVPoland
7/17/2025, 6:28:53 PM No.510640069
Wilno 1938 Rydz-ลšmigล‚y nameday
Wilno 1938 Rydz-ลšmigล‚y nameday
md5: defbec36ef911f97aef81bdefc2db1f6๐Ÿ”
>>510639645
do they teach in lithuanian schools that only 1% of Wilno's inhabitants were lithuanian?
do they teach about the Wilsonian ethnic self-determination principle and how the "lithuanian" Smetona (as lithuanian as Dalia Grybauskaite i.e. Grzybowska & 50% of lithuanians btw, kek, what a fake ass "nation") was breaking that freshly established international principle with his impudent greedy claim laid on Wilno?
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 6:28:56 PM No.510640073
average-annual-full-time-salary-2023
average-annual-full-time-salary-2023
md5: 7165f78217d4083ffa6dc479626adeff๐Ÿ”
>>510639831
cope & seethe
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Anonymous ID: PgIRMnFgNetherlands
7/17/2025, 6:29:03 PM No.510640081
1746742815096083
1746742815096083
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>>510633293 (OP)
insufferable faggots spamming each thread with reddit tier slop
Anonymous ID: 31NrcJmVPoland
7/17/2025, 6:29:29 PM No.510640120
>>510639938
it's majority Polish capital, you coping retard
we own you
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Anonymous ID: 31NrcJmVPoland
7/17/2025, 6:30:17 PM No.510640172
>>510640073
>2023
>eurostat
>adjusted
cope
1โ‚ฌ = 4,25 zล‚ now
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Anonymous ID: W66KcQmxLithuania
7/17/2025, 6:30:23 PM No.510640182
>>510633884
by importing more shitskins i guess
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Anonymous ID: yacYQH7aLithuania
7/17/2025, 6:30:26 PM No.510640185
>>510640069
>do they teach
thats for cucks
Anonymous ID: 31NrcJmVPoland
7/17/2025, 6:31:42 PM No.510640280
fun fact - lithuanians can't even speak their own fake-ass language (revived and recreated by Poles at the end of the 19th century) properly, they all speak it with a Russian accent, that's how buckbroken they are
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Anonymous ID: KWR0OhDuUnited States
7/17/2025, 6:31:48 PM No.510640289
>>510633293 (OP)
Actual Eastern Europeans
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Anonymous ID: 31NrcJmVPoland
7/17/2025, 6:34:17 PM No.510640463
>>510633505
>Lithuanians are returning to Lithuania.
not true
as evidenced by your shithuanian ass urself KEK
Anonymous ID: W66KcQmxLithuania
7/17/2025, 6:34:39 PM No.510640497
>>510640280
why this poo so butthurt about Lithuania
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Anonymous ID: yacYQH7aLithuania
7/17/2025, 6:36:00 PM No.510640609
>>510640497
success breeds jealousy :)
Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 6:36:27 PM No.510640640
Figure_2_Median_gross_hourly_earnings,_2022_(โ‚ฌ_and_PPS)
>>510640172
That's the latest figure available for Average annual full time adjusted salary per employee. It's not the same thing as net monthly salary. Poles also earn less per hour while working longer hours.
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 6:37:53 PM No.510640755
1706482057094296
1706482057094296
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>>510640497
>why is a polack butthurt and seething over Lithuania
Anonymous ID: lLZFnMVMUnited States
7/17/2025, 6:39:55 PM No.510640925
1525183372363
1525183372363
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 6:39:58 PM No.510640930
>>510640120
Elon Musk or China could theoretically buy Orlen tomorrow.
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Anonymous ID: AR1TzsgZUnited States
7/17/2025, 6:40:29 PM No.510640965
>>510640925
Oh fucks sake.
Anonymous ID: nvcrwANUUnited States
7/17/2025, 6:42:21 PM No.510641113
>>510633293 (OP)
THEY ARE STRONG INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES WHO DONT NEED NO R*SSIA
Anonymous ID: xL9BJhrcLatvia
7/17/2025, 6:44:52 PM No.510641291
>>510634018
>very noticeable soviet mentality
It's true. It's almost impossible to cooperate with anyone who graduated before 2000s. The instinctive level of double think, crab bucket and mental gymnastics they perform is clinical in many individuals. While some are just plain dumb annoying others will perform full fledged schizophrenic's gaslighting in fear of some authority or plainly stating their position and openly bargaining for best deal.

Luckily the younger generations have grown up almost 100% in wester information space and only select soviet military offspring stick to soviet ways. But we're still 1..2 generations away from sane, coherent society that can operate effectively.
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 6:45:16 PM No.510641326
wi5ooeyi44ka1
wi5ooeyi44ka1
md5: e53d24c73149a5800086b19df419f9c0๐Ÿ”
>>510640289
Wrong
Anonymous ID: +tISqjZ1Canada
7/17/2025, 6:45:21 PM No.510641332
_92917518_hi017705036
_92917518_hi017705036
md5: 8bd380610389a9420edf603a5dfcdc3f๐Ÿ”
>>510633293 (OP)
i don't think about them at all
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 6:46:13 PM No.510641388
>>510641291
>But we're still 1..2 generations away from sane, coherent society that can operate effectively.
Do you see that in the West?
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 6:46:57 PM No.510641448
>>510641332
GOOD. Let's keep it that way. Remember the Baltics are in the Balkans. Poland is super pooper 2030, go to Poland.
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 6:47:49 PM No.510641523
342361412344
342361412344
md5: 80e11862ce798d25dead2ea5a55aeece๐Ÿ”
>>510640289
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Anonymous ID: q6Sz5mRkEstonia
7/17/2025, 6:58:22 PM No.510642368
>>510633293 (OP)
I think this is a bot post on a timer. Seruously, wtf. And it saddens me legit posts by humans get archived immediately while this slop isn't. Literally just reddit for right wingers. I'd rather read a schizo post than this.
Anonymous ID: NcPb/vnFCanada
7/17/2025, 6:59:42 PM No.510642488
>>510633293 (OP)
I think they are called Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia and are located along the Baltic Sea.
Anonymous ID: x7SlPDl5
7/17/2025, 7:02:24 PM No.510642687
>>510633884
by selling overpriced gas to you, fake fin
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sage ID: 31NrcJmVPoland
7/17/2025, 7:06:05 PM No.510642969
>>510640930
lol nope, it's protected by Polish law as it's a so-called strategic sector enterprise
>>510641388
>>510641448
>>510641523
>20 pbtid
when is your eastern ski-jump-nosed shithuanian FASe returning to your shithole?
>>510641291
your younger generations are equally russified mentally and linguistically OR at best they have a self-hating post-colonial German-owned MSM-infused mentality, you don't have your own currencies, you're bitches of Poland and Germany AND your political elite is wholly post-communist, see Gitanas Nauseda the "ex-" Communist Party of the Soviet Union member, and before her Dalia Grzybowska, another Communist apparatchik. not real democracies, it all stays in the family
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 7:07:26 PM No.510643064
>>510640182
Wrong
>18,934 Lithuanian citizens returned to the country in 2024, while 9,486 left โ€” marking the fifth consecutive year of positive net migration. Most returnees came from the UK (6,581), Norway (2,064), and Germany (1,439).
>Asylum applications dropped to 362 in 2024 (down from 575 in 2023; 4,259 in 2021). Most came from Belarus (140) and Russia (47).
>Temporary residence refusals surged to 8,271; withdrawals hit 29,673 โ€” mainly due to job contract terminations (~16,000 cases).
>Dual citizenship holders rose to ~79,000 (up from ~69,000). For the first time, Lithuania revoked citizenship from 5 people โ€” 3 for serving in foreign militaries, 2 for security threats.
>106,400 foreigners held temporary residence permits for work as of Jan 1, 2025. Largest groups: Belarusians (41,400), Ukrainians (23,300), Uzbeks (8,900), Tajiks (6,500), and Kyrgyz (5,200).
>Ukraine remains the top foreign community in Lithuania (~77,000), followed by Belarus (~57,500) and Russia (~15,000).

https://migracija.lrv.lt/en/news/latest-migration-yearbook-key-statistics/
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Anonymous ID: 2QV7A/H9Estonia
7/17/2025, 7:09:03 PM No.510643198
uus leht on ainult eestlastele estchan punkt ee
Anonymous ID: xL9BJhrcLatvia
7/17/2025, 7:09:19 PM No.510643221
>>510642969
>younger generations are equally russified mentally and linguistically OR at best they have a self-hating post-colonial German-owned MSM-infused mentality
Tryhard word salad.
Anonymous ID: h5/4lXVELithuania
7/17/2025, 7:14:58 PM No.510643636
>>510640640
You're still in the UK
>20 posts by this ID
lol
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 7:15:45 PM No.510643689
slopai
slopai
md5: 9c16b31dc6c65c476b0383a5e6da1bb8๐Ÿ”
>>510642687
Wrong
Anonymous ID: KrDK4lgQUnited States
7/17/2025, 7:15:59 PM No.510643700
>>510633293 (OP)
Cute
Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 7:17:13 PM No.510643790
>>510643636
I'm about to log out of my account, thank me for keeping the thread interesting and informative. You're now free to go to a twitter screenshot thread.
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Anonymous ID: ng3wA7S+Brazil
7/17/2025, 7:17:46 PM No.510643832
images (83)
images (83)
md5: a4fd10ef6a0d6589f1c1ebfe56d1cbca๐Ÿ”
>>510633293 (OP)
I think they don't actually exist.
Anonymous ID: IfD3Tv0pUnited States
7/17/2025, 7:24:41 PM No.510644354
Map
Map
md5: 87bf2985f6a5e90e33e71b68c32eb717๐Ÿ”
>>510641523
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Anonymous ID: W66KcQmxLithuania
7/17/2025, 7:25:06 PM No.510644382
>>510643064
I don't trust offiacial numbers. You would be surprised how many pajeets are in the streets now
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Anonymous ID: IfD3Tv0pUnited States
7/17/2025, 7:25:22 PM No.510644406
MapHaplo
MapHaplo
md5: 6c03b4c201bf8e4429601f66d4500643๐Ÿ”
>>510644354
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 7:33:12 PM No.510644945
>>510644382
The official numbers say it.
>The number of Indians living in Lithuania also increased from 4.6 thousand to 7.1 thousand, Pakistanis from 926 to 2.4 thousand, Bangladeshi citizens from 379 to 1 thousand.
But also
>The number of revoked temporary residence permits has increased significantly
>By contrast, in 2024, the number of temporary residence permits refused or renewed jumped to 8271, and the number of withdrawn permits to 29,673.
>The largest share of withdrawn permits - almost 16,000 - is accounted for by permits revoked due to the termination of the employment contract with the foreigner.
Permits are being withdrawn, so keep an eye on the numbers for 2025 and 2026.
Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 7:34:27 PM No.510645018
>>510644354
>>510644406
Nice maps, saved, thanks and bye.
Anonymous ID: h5/4lXVELithuania
7/17/2025, 7:37:05 PM No.510645177
>>510643790
>log out
>on 4chan
lol. lmao even
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Anonymous ID: h5/4lXVELithuania
7/17/2025, 7:38:25 PM No.510645263
>>510644382
Officials said themselves that they don't know how many pajeets there are since they don't track the ones with expired visas.
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Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 7:41:24 PM No.510645442
Viskasbusgerai
Viskasbusgerai
md5: 1dcdbac707ab7935385aab52521451b0๐Ÿ”
>>510645263
Don't worry
Anonymous ID: M0nvGCnhUnited Kingdom
7/17/2025, 7:42:43 PM No.510645531
>>510645177
It was a joke retard, but now I am really logging out.
Anonymous ID: R+cujbSNSerbia
7/17/2025, 7:45:16 PM No.510645692
>>510633293 (OP)
I feel sorry for Estonia but the other two just seem like retards who should be absorbed by the slavs since they don't really act any differently.
Anonymous ID: oXLbiofnFinland
7/17/2025, 7:45:29 PM No.510645703
>>510633293 (OP)
I lub eesti and want eesti gf :3333333
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Anonymous ID: 1CEZ5vdPUnited States
7/17/2025, 8:02:45 PM No.510646978
Wow that pollack got really butthurt at the britbong.
Also
Sweden
Yes
Replies: >>510648521
Anonymous ID: b3n00svNUnited States
7/17/2025, 8:04:08 PM No.510647074
>>510645703
Just take a boat, nigga
Anonymous ID: 31NrcJmVPoland
7/17/2025, 8:23:30 PM No.510648521
>>510646978
>at the britbong.
it's a lithuanian emigrant, retard
Anonymous ID: nPzr9ZhFRomania
7/17/2025, 8:37:35 PM No.510649546
>>510641523
Proving once again that baltoids and finns aren't northerners
Just a different subset of eastern euros While Russia it's a thing of his own
Anonymous ID: c++iBgbOCanada
7/17/2025, 8:39:38 PM No.510649700
>>510633293 (OP)
They'd be cool if they weren't 100% good goys who fall for globohomo propaganda.