Thread 510637764

Keir Starmer announces that the UK is lowering the voting age from 18 to 16 in all UK elections.

Why is this happening now all of a sudden? Who benefits from it?

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1945787064491925683

Lmfaooooo

>>510637764 (OP)
>Who benefits from it?
Jezza's new party

>>510637764 (OP)
the uk is fucked ,long rest the queen

Labor will be in power for a decade, easily

>>510637764 (OP)
>Who benefits from it?
Jews

>>510637764 (OP)

Watching europe destroy itself with its own wokeism is so gratifying. Like reading about God hardening pharaoh's heart lmao

>>510637972
>>510637928
Wrong, teens will be voting for Corbyn's anti-israel party, Labour are finishing themselves

>>510637764 (OP)
Everyone hates them. Only 16 year old are dumb enough to vote for them.

When will they lower Lolis AOC ?

>>510637764 (OP)
Several parties toyed with the idea here, too. It's short sighted of them, they're only doing this because they think they have the youth vote cornered. Not sure how the political climate is in the UK, but if it's anything like it is here, it's actually pretty much just boomers and millenial leftists that vote for the neoliberal left, the kids are living through the consequences of decades of terrible neolib policy and are NOT going to vote for more of the status quo.
Personally I think there should an upper limit to being able to vote, rather than extending the franchise to children, but hey.

>>510637764 (OP)
Most 16 to 17 year olds will be shitskins by 2029. This will backfire on (((starmer))) & ((((((((((hermer)))))))))) though, as corbyn's paki lover party will hoover up the vote.

>>510638313
Drive by any high school nowadays and it's only brown creatures lurking about. They want to put the finger on the scale for more brown votes.

Is there a Sharia party they can vote for? If no, how long?

Labour expects this to bolster their vote but it will probably backfire
Kids seem to either be politically apathetic, hard left, or single issue, with a hard right minority
If Corbyn's party ends up materialising I'd expect most of the youth vote to go to them because muh Gaza with the rest either not voting or going Reform
What do you retards think

>>510638141

UGov survey shows kids fucking hate jews.

>>510637842
the world is run by demons

>>510638709
Brown kids also can't find summer jobs and feel increased pressure from declining living standards. If you talk to legal, pre-Trudeau immigrants. none of them are happy about the jeetening either, they don't go "oh yay, more disgusting poopmen to compete for limited housing, employment, and resources with"
Neoliberal faux-progressivism is only popular with millenial whites who were indoctrinated since birth to worship the ideology, boomers vote LPC because muh drumpf

>>510637764 (OP)
>voting
>mattering
if it changed anything they wouldn't let you do it

>>510637764 (OP)

Then the candidates age should also lower to 16.

>>510637764 (OP)
Based staremer he is destroying the voollddoee island fonekkeey iooibeeeeindiaaaaaaa

>>510637764 (OP)
>Who benefits from it?

>>510638826
Labour would need to fuck up massively, although that's not to say it isn't a complete impossibility with this leadership.

Whites who become eligible to vote in the next GE are 12 now. They were 2 when the Brexit vote happened and 5 when we left the EU. They don't care about the EU, they have no idea what it was like to live in the EU or things like free movement or Erasmus.

Instead, they grew up in a massively left wing environment that promotes niggers and pakis, vilifies white people and actively discriminates against them. They will have no appetite for Labour or any left wing nonsense. White British pupils are still 62% of the population. Add to this the portion of non-white youths who will grow up under Labour internet censorship and feminist/gay dogmas.

This is just Labour being completely out of touch as usual and thinking giving young people this right will immediately make them the preferred party with that cohort.
It's an age group that doesn't work or pay bills and will vote entirely based on cultural factors and the type of environment they grew up in. It will be the most rebellious voting group out there because they aren't thinking about taxes, unemployment or cost of living, it will just be a chance for them to give their teachers and the establishment the finger. Who do you think they will vote for?

>>510638826
We will have our revenge on the blair-starmer scum

>>510637764 (OP)
women and children diserve the right to vote and hold office

>>510637764 (OP)
The greens wanted to lower the voting age here, until they found out that the AfD is the strongest party for young voters.

>>510637764 (OP)
Can we fuck teenies too??

They would FOREVER win the male vote if they lowered the AOC.

>>510639469
>Who do you think they will vote for?
Whoever their favourite influencers tell them to.

>>510637764 (OP)
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>>510635412 (OP) #
>pivots to make new changes to government voting laws to explain why nothing ever goes according to the way voters vote in the UK
Vote harder lads!

>>510637764 (OP)
Old enough to vote but not old enough to fuck or buy alcohol?

>>510639366
Grim those numbers
Seems to me though that Labour got in this time because they promised change after the Tories
But they've pissed away that mandate
>>510639500
Are you shitposting or actually a commie zoomer?

>>510639668
This is strictly to give the appearance that democracy is at play, and the people voted incorrectly.

>>510639668
but old enough to be drafted to Ukraine

>>510637764 (OP)
Young people are disproportionally Left leaning due to social pressure.

It's literally free votes for Labour.

It's honestly that simple

Bong politicians betrayed them 100% of the time so this move is very obvious.

>>510639233
This

>>510639743
Democracy, particularly in the United States homogeny, functions not as a system of popular sovereignty, but as a vector for globalization — a managed system of consent that gives the appearance of participation while concentrating power at the top.

This idea echoes critiques from across the ideological spectrum. Noam Chomsky has long argued that democracy in the West is manufactured, with media, education, and policy designed to limit the scope of acceptable dissent.

Michel Foucault described how power operates not just through force, but through discourse, institutions, and norms — shaping how we think, what we desire, and how we organize.

Antonio Gramsci, an Italian Marxist, wrote about cultural hegemony — the process by which ruling classes maintain power not through coercion, but by shaping the values, beliefs, and norms of society.

In this framework, democracy becomes a mechanism for stabilizing elite control, not challenging it. People are given choices within a narrow framework, often between candidates or parties that agree on the fundamental policies of globalization, deregulation, and technocratic governance.

>>510639711
I'm deadass, this country needs to be cleansed of neoliberals and zionist influence

>>510639999
>checked
Unfortunately, it goes much deeper than that. Bile estimations your country has been subverted by at least the time period surrounding the Battle of Hastings.

>>510637764 (OP)
This is antisemitic!

>>510637764 (OP)
They should also lower the age to consent.

>>510637764 (OP)
Oh, this may not go the way Starmer thinks it will

>>510637764 (OP)
>kids who are currently 12 will be able to stop our nige becoming pm in a few years

>>510640383
Lmao, Jesus Christ you’re stupid

Blatant attempt to stop reform winning.

We will keep Starmer in power. POWERFUL KEIR. AGENT OF THE HINDUS.

>>510637764 (OP)
Because kids are stupid, childish….just like liberals.

>>510640538
my presence in this toilette is not proof enough?

>>510638141
>teens will be voting for Corbyn's anti-israel party
Yes which is even worse since it's an outright communist party that despises the UK and supports open borders from the third world

>>510637764 (OP)
Whoever controls the media and education system controls the youth vote.

AKA jews.

>>510640842
Two tier Kier and the curry cunnies
My bet is someone kills him before the next GE
He already had some of his properties get firebombed, he's reopening the wounds from the troubles, and Labour are doing stupid shit like banning memorials for the kids murdered in Southport

>>510637764 (OP)
>most popular voter name in 2029 will be muhammed

>>510641044
Rothschild talking point, the neoliberals want to replaced Englishmen with obedient third world slaves, your true flag is a country based in tel aviv.

>>510641690
>voting for an unapologetically communist open borders party will stop third world slaves coming in
It's a stupid talking point anyway in regards to Israel since all those third world slaves that have been coming in under both parties despise Israel you know.

>>510637764 (OP)
>all of a sudden
It was one of their manifesto pledges

>>510637764 (OP)
>Who benefits from it?
Labour hope too. They're tanking in the polls after just a year and their hoping that lowering the voting age will win them some votes. They've also said that a bank card will now count as ID for voting for basically the same reason.

>>510637764 (OP)
UK : Ultimate Kucked

>>510637764 (OP)
obviously the internal polls came in

>>510637764 (OP)
If anything it should be raised. We don't need young people who still believe in things like magic, astrology, or gender theory to be making important decisions.

>>510638043
Absolutely. "As righteousness tends to life, so he that pursues evil pursues it to his own death."

I LOVE seeing this evil regime chase wokeness into the Red Sea. That's what they get for all the rape gangs, fake Zio-wars, and so on.

>>510637764 (OP)
>Why is this happening now?
Don't know why its an obsession with Marxists are far left jews, but liebour have tried to table it on 3 separate occasions to my knowledge. Each time it has met with resistance from the adults and blocked by the Lords. Now though they have a majority of sorts so they're trying to push through all the policies they want but couldn't get in the past.

That explains the why now but maybe an EU bro could explain why because they've already had it imposed. There's more nigs and foreign 16-18 yr olds isn't a valid answer because in other countries they appear to vote in fewer numbers and for more vanguard parties on the far left and right. Liebour certainly won't benefit. A hitler may. Seems dumb to me. Its not law anyway. Still needs to be tabled and then pass the Lords.

>>510637877
You misspelled UKIP.

>>510641848
This is zionist brainwashing, neoliberals in the labour and conservative parties are responsible for open borders, marxist-corbynism will save this nation from demographic decline.

Also
>memeflag
>capitalising israel
Should've known

>>510637764 (OP)
Paving the way for making 16 adulthood and 12 the age of consent.

Shouldn't it be raised to 25 since the latest meme is that people younger than that aren't "fully developed"?

>>510637764 (OP)
>"If you're not a socialist when you're young, you don't have a heart. If you're not a conservative when you're older, you don't have a brain".
Yeah, who could possibly benefit from something like this?

>>510637891
Fuck the Queen and royal family, I spit on her graves.

>>510637764 (OP)
Because adults won't support the NWO but children still stuck in communist reeducation centers will have to take a selfie of themselves voting for a communist to get an A in civics. They'll be pushing for more rights for children all over the world for this reason.

>>510637764 (OP)
They should be raising it. This is disturbing. 16 year olds are kids. Makes sense though. They’re trying to offset the number of higher IQ voters that have caught on to their con job. Also it would take the mind of a child to appreciate the globohomo agenda.

>>510637764 (OP)
I love listening to the MSM about this and they have absolutely nothing negative to say about it or even mention anyone is against it.

>>510637764 (OP)
You should be able to vote at 14, high schoolers should lead all countries with party names like skibidi party, with policies like deporting nigs and re-establishing agartha

>>510642677
You're avoiding the point because it defeats your argument by the looks of it.
Again, all those third world immigrants have a worse opinion of Israel than natives do. How do you square this with what you said?

>marxist-corbynism will save this nation from demographic decline.
Corbyn is unapologetically in favor of open border, he's held up 'refugees welcome' signs and never pretended anything else.
I wouldn't blame a commie for voting for him, because that's what he is. Given that I'm not a commie I'm not voting for him though.

>>510643614
If you had female friends in high school you could form a party with them and pull strings while farming ez pedo boomer votes, just need to find some cute girls for TV

Well that’s one way to keep labour in office lol

>>510638141
Yeah, Labor party over there and the Democrats here have decided to harikari.

>>510637764 (OP)
>Why is this happening now all of a sudden?
Was literally in the manifesto, you would know this if you weren’t some freak thousands of miles away. I literally voted for this. If you pay taxes and can join the army why shouldn’t you be able to vote?

>>510643855
Young people are susceptible to social media, one tiktok edit could make them national socialist

>>510643964
Too bad tiktok is owned and run by the chinese communist party then.

>>510643964
Too bad the internet is astroturfed. People don’t even remember Kanye put out a song called heil hitler in the last couple months.

>>510637764 (OP)
Just so it makes more sense when they lower the draft age to 16 too

>>510637764 (OP)
The youth are easier to manipulate via social media.

>>510644057
>>510643964
Tiktok is very nazi and fascist, there is right wing content everywhere there lol, once US gets their app for tiktok those days will be over

>Who benefits from it?
Younger people are right leaning now that's why when they learned it here they immediately stopped pucshing for it.

>>510637764 (OP)
The sane thing would be to RAISE the voting age to 21 and to limit voting to natural born citizens

>>510637764 (OP)
>Why is this happening now all of a sudden?
voter turnout at all time lows; can't have it drop below 50% or else government is illegitimate
also Reform UK is a "threat" to the lib/lab uniparty despite it being controlled opposition; the "rebellious" youth think DEY WACIS
>Who benefits from it?
Jews
uniparty/duopoly
non-Britons
16-year-olds who haven't lived a day in the real world and yet think they have it all figured out


but in the end none of this matters and it'll probably blow up in their faces, and at most it's probably just a headline grabbing promise they intend on reneging on because that's just what politicians do
although I do like the idea of the government lying to 16-year-olds early; gin up their expectations before throwing a cold bucket of reality at them; have them distrusting politicians early

>>510643855
FR and no cap. This is to pad the electorate with zoom zooms and surplus ahmeds and mohamadlets.

>elections
>real

>democracy
>not a scam that can be rigged with shitskins

>>510637764 (OP)
The brainwash is strong in schools for leftist draconian government

>>510637764 (OP)
Because the schools and teachers are brainwashing the kids.

>>510643779
The strategy is to create a large substrata class of obedient third worlders to replace the native working class and be ruled over by a pro-zionist elite, much like what's happened in the gulf states, it doesn't matter if the replacement third worlders are anti-israel because the neoliberal zionists are building a police state to silence them, all that matters to neoliberal zionists like Starmer, Boris Johnson and Farage is the replacement of the native working class of Europe and the greater israel project. Corbyn is not part of the zionist project, probably the only British politician who isn't.

>I'm not voting for him
You're not British, so it matters fuck all what you think

>>510643855
Its all the same worthless ZOG piss anyway.
You want real change?
Women banned from politics.
Strict voting laws where everyone that is a fat unfit piece of lard is not allowed to cast.

>>510638492
The days of the white political plantation politics are over. It’s so absurd watching white savior politicians benevolently lord over their pitiable brown minions. That’s been the democrats platform since LBJ. They always assumed the brown people would never be savvy enough to actually lead their own parties.
The world has completely had it with these geezer and their white savior complex. How absurd it’s all become.
Besides, anti Israel is mainstream now.

>>510644195
Maybe you’re just plugged into a particular algorithm, anyway you’re coping

>>510637764 (OP)
Soon they will only allow foreigners to vote.

How does it follow that people who need legal guardians are allowed to vote in elections?

its a scumbag move. he knows its wrong, but he knows it favors them so go for it.

>>510644277
Our western democracies are completely worthless but sold to us as the hot shit. Meanwhile all these „evil authoritarian dictatorships“ have leaders that put their people and country first.

and of course plebbit agrees with this

>>510637764 (OP)
unbelievably retarded
holy shit

good luck

>>510637764 (OP)
great news, especially since immigrant reproduction is outpacing natives. :tumbsup:

>>510637764 (OP)
>Why is this happening now all of a sudden? Who benefits from it?
Certainly not the brown people who have been pumped into this country

Don't under 25 also already have the lowest voter percentage? 16-year-olds don't care about elections.

>>510638826
Politicians in the west are still working from an obsolete playbook. They still do not seem to understand that the world has radically changed. But all things work to the good. Radicalization begets its reciprocal radicalization…racial solidarity in one group begets the same in another…no matter what they do the primeval forces of Nature are working against them.
And what no one seems to appreciate, much less anticipate, is how ferocious in group bias will become once economic hardship hits.
We’re already about explode with racial tensions…and this in times of record bounty…you add economic privation to the cultural climate, and you’ve got a tinderbox of TNT on your hands.
It’s like that great Scottish poet Robert Burnd once said
>all the plans of mice and men gang aft a glee.
“Gang aft a glee” is queer Scottish-speak for “everything goes to hell.” It’s a poetic rendering of the concept of “unintended consequences”.
Or maybe they did intend them. After reading that last Albert Pike book I am convinced that they fully intended whites to galvanize into a single people after the “social cataclysms” that Pike foretold of in other works.
Is is possible that all of this madness was part of a grand plan to forge all Aryan people into a single nation? To return us to unity and brotherhood?
It’s certainly starting to seem that way.
I don’t like the thought of cataclysms…but I do like the thought of us all merging into a single unified people very much indeed.

>>510638898
A glimmer of hope in a sea of shit

>>510637764 (OP)
When they lowered it to 16 for local elections in Austria the children were voting more right-wing than the adults. Might not get the same outcome in the UK since it's such a trashy shithole nowadays.

>>510644531
We don't all live in democracies, it's kind of a catch all term used to describe any sort of republic where people can vote to determine their rulers.

This system can work in an actual nation where the people are one ethnicity but importing shtskins and foreigners to vote against the interests of the actual populace is like fraud but worse. Foreigners don't get a say, they are foreigners.

>>510644854
>When they lowered it to 16 for local elections in Austria the children were voting more right-wing than the adults. Might not get the same outcome in the UK since it's such a trashy shithole nowadays.
Yes, sure

>>510637764 (OP)
Because they need bleeding heart, impressionable kids to vote for them.

Little do they know they will vote right wing and sing Erika for shits and giggles.

>>510637764 (OP)
Great, now you can vote for your kiddie-fucking, freemason, kike-stooge of choice at a even younger age everybody.

no one votes in the uk
everyone hates the paedo elites running the place from Switzerland.
and they hate us back

>>510645075
Those under that age that do vote near exclusively vote Labour. They’re just middle class (in the English sense, not middle income) kids who hate their parents and want to be poor for some reason even though poor people would eat their faces off for small sums of money
>>510644759
They don’t really vote. Labour know what demographic they’re after - rich and middle class kids in swing seats.

>>510644602
They love kids because kids are stupid and don't know better. it's even worse in the modern era where the state has incredible influence and control over what the youth believes because the state educates them. People send their kids to a public school where they spend something like 8 or 7 hours a day through their formative years being raised by THE STATE effectively which will try to impress it's values on the kids. That's why they want them voting. Imagine a 16 year old girl voting (who believes state diversity propaganda). What a massive and profound spit in the face of your country, your ancestors, who you are as a people, etc.

>>510645075
That's a near irrelevant point because they vote left, so you just tipped the scales for the left.

>>510645190
But is it really? When so many kids are ahmeds? They hate you even more and they foreigners at that.

>>510645819
we are more focused on the cunts bringing the ahmeds here.

>>510639668
16 is the age of consent in the UK, but yeah you need to be 18 for alcohol

>>510645671
also because future generations only become more retarded and brown as demographics change and children are increasingly raised on tik tok.

>>510637764 (OP)
The younger population has a higher percentage of browns. They know exactly what they're doing.

>>510646102
das raciss n shiet

>>510637764 (OP)
It’s going to backfire. They’re going to wish they didn’t do it. Younger whites are becoming more based by the day.

Reminds me of the suffragettes
All those 16yr olds screaming for the vote
Jumping at racehorces
Its a nightmare over here

>>510637764 (OP)
Why not just let newborns vote as well, at this point?

>>510638492
That’s the entire point. Stop pretending your white politicians aren’t acting on behalf of your invaders.

>>510646349
>newborns
They are saved for royalty and the masons

>>510646403
being israel

>>510646168
Young whites are minorities in their own nations.

>>510638313
>Minimum age
>Maximum age
>Must work
>Must be net benefit in taxes
>One vote per household
>No dual citizenship for anyone in the household
>No foreign property for anyone in the household (nowhere to run, you little shit)
And on and on. Limitless voting rights are a mistake

>>510637764 (OP)
Underaged migrant voters :-)))

>>510637764 (OP)
protests live now at migrant hotels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJAEnJE4-jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq60gU6UPlU
context
>Angry residents with 'Save Our Kids' banners mass outside Essex asylum hotel after Ethiopian migrant appears in court accused of sexually assaulting 14-year-old schoolgirl
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14915959/angry-residents-asylum-hotel-migrant-sexually-assaulted-girl.html

>>510637764 (OP)
lol
Best move ever
Data clearly shows a shift to the right within the 16-18 year old age group
mainly due to retarded nonsense being pushed in education, they literally take the piss out of it, as we did at their age
They are unlikely to vote in great numbers with only those politically motivated turning up i.e. those with strong opinions, Labour are assuming that means they will get the vote, I mean they must be right

It's not like they have proven to be way out of touch and well behind on current public opinion recently, surely this is the right move

>>510646457
I don’t think the people looking to exploit youth votes in your country care much about Israel. I think they more want to extract further political power as foreigners to resist any attempts white British people take to regain control of the nation of their fathers.

Sacrificing your nation on the alter of pro/anti Israeli sentiments seems like a stupid thing to do.

Voting age should be 16-65.

People 65+ voted enough and things are just how they like them.

>>510637764 (OP)
He's getting them ready for conscription.

>>510642551
>Don't know why its an obsession with Marxists are far left jews,

Because it's a Socialist's wet dream. An easily peer pressured voting block with no life experience and appreciation for why the vote is secret and optional, that spends 50%+ waking hours with a government union teacher telling them what to think. Oh and they can make getting an 'i voted' sticker worth extra credit for civics class and set up voting booths right on school property later.

>>510646484
>Young whites are minorities in their own nations.
You don't say

>>510637764 (OP)
what great sin did i commit in a past life to be born in this shithole country and not having parents who immigrated from elsewhere (preferably in europe) so i could fuck off there and never look back

>>510637764 (OP)
the UK is about to become soviet england kek

>>510646595
Muslims didnt arrive here on magic carpets

>>510646705
Yea so while I truly am an appreciator of anti-Israeli sentiments I think you lads should be cautious about what other foreign entities could exploit that to enslave you.

No point in trading the shackles to another master.

>>510646793
and they aren’t going to magically leave when they outnumber you. You don’t understand how the Jewish game works.

Take care of their weapon and then move on them when they are disarmed and weak.
Try to bypass their weapon to focus on their hand and their weapon WILL stab you in the back. It’s designed as such.

Israelis are perfectly happy with antisemitism in western nations increasing because that increases the amount of jews migrating to Israel. Israelis would love for our nations to be ruled by browns because then their brethren will flee.

We want the jews out without losing control of our nations. You need to stop being so ignorant of how jews work.

>>510643273
Listen, a 16 year old totally has the decision-making capability to vote for a representative of the government and weight up socio-political issues, but actually how fucking DARE YOU imply that they can weight whose dick should or should not enter their pussy, you sick fuck?!

Muslims had large families. Now those kids will vote while still completing school.

England islamification accelerates.

>>510637764 (OP)
So that means the administration saw polling numbers they didn't like and needed to add a favorable demographic. Got it.

>>510637764 (OP)
Why the fuck should teens who haven't even finished history classes be allowed to vote?
In fact, why stop at 16? Why not let 10 or even 5 year olds vote too?

>>510641468

Brits will happily model Axels unity face and celebrate him as a hero as preferable to losing their isreal-lite silver membership package.

>>510647758
Because at 5 or 10 they will still just do as their parents direct.
16 is the perfect age of rebelliousness mixed with complete inexperience with government systems. It’s essentially exploiting the rebellious nature of adolescence for political gain.

>>510643472
Nigga the Queen ain't dead. She just went home.

>>510637764 (OP)
>maybe if we lower the age of voting turbolib children will vote for us
Hahahahaha damage control never been so blatant

>>510637764 (OP)
>Who benefits from it?
jews

>>510648314
She went back to hell?

>>510637764 (OP)
He's genuinely a fucking moron and the worst of it is that he's probably the most intelligent member of his party.
This makes little to no difference as the majority of young people dont even vote and if there's still a country left at the next election his party will lose in a landslide and this will be repealed.
The party of totalitarian managerial safetyism says that 16-year-olds aren't able to smoke or drink, but can vote.

Holy shit I hate these cunts (politicians).

>>510648491
Yes but think. Who does this help?
Your parties don’t operate on your behalf but on behalf of someone else.

>>510648491
Saying hes a moron is kinda moot, all politicians are. Even the fact they became politicians is enough of a filter to show you how fucking smoothbrained they are. If you had the foot up in life and the connections theres easier ways to make money than politics where you dont become hated by most of your countrymen

>>510646716
No. That would be a nation full of fit people who valued scientific exploration and national achievement. We’re actually gunning for “Homosexual South Africa” and you are going for “Israeli Brazil”

>>510645538
>They’re just middle class [...] kids who hate their parents and want to be poor for some reason
More like, they're idealists on social issues and believe that there is plenty of free money for poor people and browns

>>510648491
your children can't even view tits on reddit legally but they can vote on war in Ukraine and immigration policy of course.

How the hell do you bongs not rise up??????? Where is the resistance? Every day there's a new scandal where it turns out your government has been blatantly and intentionally fucking white brits in the ass and every day you roll over and vote for even more

>>510645190
Not really, it's nothing to do with Jewish subversion, it's entirely because they have a hard-on for Palestine.

lmao enjoy your tiktokracy

>>510648809
>t. White nationalist who has a government that really cares about white people

Thanks for letting us know. It must be great to live in a country where minorities don’t exploit every programme going and the various instruments of state are pro white

>>510640156
They had a brief respite in 1290 for a few hundred years

>>510644366
>it doesn't matter if the replacement third worlders are anti-israel because the neoliberal zionists are building a police state to silence them,
This doesn't match reality at all. The police are absolutely powerless and unwilling to do anything about the rise of militant Islam in the UK.

Corbyn is entirely on board with massive levels of immigration, he has never claimed otherwise. If you claim otherwise you are putting words in his mouth.
The reason the 'neolibs' don't want Corbyn is because he's a communist who would wreck the economy and neolibs only care about money.
Speaking of which, your theory doesn't make sense with that either because third world immigration is a net drain on the economy, provably a huge amount are on benefits.

>>510637764 (OP)
Great britain's history has always been one of repeated faggotry
>be celt
>rubbing shit on yourself
>romans show up
>wtfisthisshit.png
>they force you to be civilized
>the most disgusting barbarians hide
>trump.exe
>scotland permanently a barbarian confinement zone
>barbarians from germany shit all over northern rome
>have to leave before the german niggers show up
>betons rewrite history we wuz kangs
>make up legend of kang author
>suddenly german niggers show up
>spend a century bitching about it
>rewrite your history so it was always the plan
>we was kangs
>suddenly vikings show up
>literal sub-humans who can't even grow their own food
>they rape your women and steal your shit
>do nothing
>they leave out of bordem
>rewrite history again
>we wuz kang aethastantheman
>suddenly roman larping german niggers invade call themselves franks
>spend a century making you say "beef" instead of "cow"
>they get bored and leave
>rewrite history again
>we wuz kang henreee
>kings start fucking everyone in europe
>cousin of a cousin of a brother of an aunt gets in power
>not even fucking english at this point
>rewrite history for the twentieth time
>WE WUZ QUEENZ N SHIEET
>manage to make the largest empire in earth history from sheer retardation (too stupid to know when to stop)
>get into a fight with france over fucking OHIO
>lose everything
>rewrite history
>we actually hate imperialism and slavery
>german niggers think for the first time "what if we act civilized?"
>having none of that the now retarded imbred english fight them
>act as landing strip for US military
>'win' a war against the only civilization left
>at least we don't speak german
>africa niggers show up
>muslims show up
>niggers of all kinds invade
>do literally nothing to stop it
>elect one of them mayor
>rewrite history again again again
>doctor when says niggers always here
>museum says nigs were kniggets
>bbc most popular channel because you love black dick
>be today
>still being a bunch of faggots

>>510648445
Nah, Zeta Reticuli. She could be one of those filthy Gliese slags though.

>>510637764 (OP)
Beautiful, the first order of business to be raising the age of consent to at least 21.

>>510648902
I'm East Asian not white, I just want to get into the mind of a country that would willingly let their native people get exterminated like this and keep on voting for even more every time you get a chance to say no

>>510648902

It would also be great if turbocucks wouldnt write posts like that with the number one priority of where do I shoehorn inxthe faggot code word to signpost that you would cover up a million times worse to not jeopardise your state sponsored outlet for your inferiority driven seething.

>>510646520
I 100% agree that unlimited franchise is a terrible idea. Some people should just not have the ability to vote. One of the better ideas Heinlein explored in Starship Troopers IMO

>>510643472
Inextricably hating the monarchy is nigger zog behavior. The modern royal family is undoubtedly compromised but Mutts worship and idolize celebrities and politicians in there place. Having an upper class is human nature

>>510637764 (OP)
>Why is this happening now all of a sudden? Who benefits from it?
It's so all the grey haired 16 year olds they import can vote against the native people.

>>510637764 (OP)
Labour are just trying to rig it, the fix is in. They'll do anything to stop Reform.

>>510641468
>he's reopening the wounds from the troubles
How's that? Not terribly knowledgeable about that period of UK history tbqh

>>510649259
The younger generation is based actually, its old fags that have voted for moloch vs baal parties for the last 60 years. Also people in Britain are actually angry, pretty much every American "right winger" is Israel first

>>510649159
the craziest thing is that NATIVE BRITS are the biggest cheerleaders for this ethnic replacement shit, not jews not muslims literally WHITE ANGLO STOCK vote to exterminate their own culture history and lineage completely just so they can have the "moral high ground". What the fuck is wrong with you guys?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/1m2bc3u/the_cost_of_mass_migration_has_been_concealed/

>>510649159
>every time you get a chance to say no
You don't understand how effective the media was in brainwashing the boomer generation and how completely they controlled the flow of information in Western nations prior to the existence of the Internet. They still completely controlled who the majority of boomers voted for at the last election and effectively made it a two-party state by holding debates between only the two main party candidates.

>>510649373
Kneecap is the perfect example, the poster boys for "Pakis in Brits out". British and Irish people are quickly realizing that they are almost the same, and that niggers and pakis and radically different. The Troubles are clearly being brought up the again to push the "Britain bad MI6 control the Irish right wing narrative" its obviously useful to ZOG to redirect energy from all white Irish to to a retarded age old feud and distract both the Irish and Ulsterman for both their ethnic replacement

>>510649081
Neoliberals always put at socialists saying they want open borders, while themselves doing the mass migration, the US was 80% white in the 80s and now white people are a minority after 40 years of continuous neoliberal zionist rule. Neoliberals are purposely trying to bring migrants into the west, they send out migration officers to find migrants, for the purposeful goal of replacement. Socialists aren't doing that, many want to reduce it because of the effects of migration on damping worker's wages. Zionist migration goals are malicious and intentional, conservatives and liberals both want to replace native europeans and support the greater israel project.

>>510646970
>((schizo babble))

>>510637764 (OP)
If you are too old to rape, you are old enough to vote

>>510649622
>Is American
>Claims that the British people are the most active for their ethnic replacement

I have some bad news for you

>99% of under 10 are shitskins
>Allows voting at 16
Lol lmao

Labour are desperate scum.

>>510650182
You’re Muslim, aren’t you? Seeking to gain control of the British as the jew does them dirty.

>>510650243
Anon, the party that is suppose to be interested in British nationals is actively trying to get more teenage immigrants to vote in your elections.
You’re getting replaced regardless of who else in the anglosphere suffers the same fate.

>>510637764 (OP)
In other words the non white majority (18 and under) just got the right to vote. They will vote in communism.

>>510650483
Did your AIPAC guy give you approval to post this?

>>510637764 (OP)
They are doing this so they can bring back child slave labor like during the industrial revolution

>>510638141
so Conservatives will be back after next election again. Got it.

>>510637764 (OP)
can kikes just do that without putting it to a vote in england? are bongaloids aware that the majority of young people in england are brown foreignes?

>>510650742
Yeah I know thats why I hate Americans, anything good happens in Britain and a bunch of mutts flow in with 'goodwill' messages saying how one day Britain can be like you, and becoming current day America is literally my version of hell. When you fags admit America is the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah, I will accept your criticism of Britain and Europe

>>510637764 (OP)
If 16yr olds can vote then they should be able to fuck adults without any complaints.

>>510649084
>bbc most popular channel because you love black dick
Can you stop invoking mutt's law for just 5 fucking minutes?

>>510651014
and buy tobacco and guns and open bank accounts. voting age is the same as age of majority so if you are considering children old enough to vote then they are old enough to do everything else in life.

>>510650931
When did the vote happen that meant that the GOP were allowed to continue to give billions to Israel and curb muh free speech against Jewish criticism only?

>>510649622
>source: redditors
Nice, retard.

>>510637764 (OP)
Quick
Vote for government mandated wives

>>510651014
You can fuck an adult and join the Army at 16 in Britain

>>510637764 (OP)
How thw fuck can you just change how voting works?

>>510637764 (OP)
finnaly our best our smartest the ones who have never experienced life outside of the schooling system will run the country, teachers and 16 yr olds. basically the same thing

>>510637764 (OP)
Dude, UK is FUCKED
Get out while you can. It's over.

>>510637764 (OP)
well i mean the UK voted for whats the problem

>>510651247
>is surprised the American RW is a redditer

You are too new to be here as well

>>510651345
And go where?

>>510637764 (OP)
Based, the shitskins and liberal kids will vote the country into the ground. Civil war can't come soon enough

>>510637764 (OP)
.....

>Its easier for Labour to lower the national voting age than to just stop being retarded
I wonder how all those promises of stopping the boats in a few weeks are going to turn out

>>510651557
....

>>510649365
Jesus UK is fucked at least in Germany and US young people are also voting right wing

>>510651926
>The US is voting right wing

Lol, lmao even.

>>510649622
>One economic answer is that it works a bit like borrowing money off the books. The costs are only realised much later down the line
Good explanation actually
Politicians are ethnically replacing eurooeans for short-term political gains (short-term.increases of productivity by having cheap unskilled workforce) This is the major downside of democracy, theres a strong incentive for politicians to do things that lead to short-term upsides but have massive long-term downsides, same with borrowing ever more money

Aren't young people in the Muslim region known as Europe supposed to be right wing?

>>510637764 (OP)
Raise the age. You should have to experience life on your own before you vote.

>>510652458
16 year old girls are not known to be right wing, no

>>510639999
Communism is jewish. It actually amazes me how many marxists (I know quite a few) either don't know this or try really hard to rationalise it away.

>>510652726
Democracy is retarded full stop retard. It only worked when it was landowning good stock whites. Make all western parliaments the equivalent of the Anglo Saxon Witan and the west will be saved. The best example are the hereditary piers of the houses of Lords. They answer to no one but them selves, while everyone in the democratic system in Britain and America answers to Israel

>>510637764 (OP)
It's cyclic and in this order
One man has all the power ∆ a small elite group ∆ a few representatives sharing power ∆ Almost everyone has power ∆ literally everyone (you are here) ∆ (collapse or revolution) ∆One man has power

>>510637764 (OP)
>UK LOWERING AGE TO VOTE
Well, if they can vote then they can fight in a war against Russia. The comfort of the newly arrived is dependent upon it. Part and parcel of having a smooth transition from Kingdom to Caliphate. The resistance to the transition is just pure bigotry, hence the future meat grinder.

>>510653470
People in Britain can already join the army at 16 but can't go on a combat deployment until they're 18. Also what is it with Indians and your obsession with Ukraine?

>>510639668
You can have sex at 16 in the U.K.

>>510653057
How are you enjoying being ethnically cleansed under your non-marxist neoliberal government?

>>510651492
idk man, caribbean islands?

>>510637764 (OP)
This could be a collosal mistake. The backlash from this could be very spicy.

This is how i find out because i won’t use msm.
We can all see what this is, blatently.
Nigel’s Brexit party gets more votes than the mainstream parties added together, it’s the end for them …SUDDENLY
>children who BTW we now keep in school have to vote
I think there is going to be an IRA type response.

>>510654166
*brexit party
Is now called “reform” and is campaigning on deporting all the migrants.

They went too far long ago.
What’s going to happen now is on them.

>>510637764 (OP)
Fucking retard makes another retarded decision.

>>510637764 (OP)
sheeit

>>510653973
>escape niggers by going to the nigger isles

ya man try again

>>510649159
>>510649622
>>510649931
Every single UK government since Blair was elected on the promise to end mass migration and every single UK government since Blair broke that promise.
The British people are voting to stop the boats. The problem is their elected representatives do not represent the British people in the slightest.
It's almost like there is no voting our way out of this.

>>510654225
*all the illegal immigrants

The illegals don't even touch the surface, the pakis that come on banana boats are like 20k a year mean while the gov is importing 100s of thousands of Deliveroo workers every year. Reform is literally tory 2.0. Cucked out and just bangs on about boat migrants which are a pale comparison to the nonwhites let in legally, and in addition say reform gets in AT THE END OF THE DECADE they will do nothing about it anyway. If you think the party with a paki chairman will save Britain and is RW you are braindead and retarded

>>510654603
Fact status, true. If you are a white man with half a brain you know this. We quite literally HAVE NO FUCKING TIME LEFT. Any clown thats banking on elections is retarded. Every 4-5 years its "WOW! ZOG WINS AGAIN WE WERE SO CLOSE!!". Stop banking on parties, we dont have decades to work with we dont fucking have the time

Newsflash: because democracy is so good the PM has announced that dogs must all vote.
>The one leg one vote system is the fairest system yet.
*experts.
>who’s a good boy?
*said the labour leader. Between bumming Ukrainian rent boys and locking them up on terrorism charges so they can’t talk about it.

>If you won’t vote for US then we will make your children do it
Fuck off. No.

>>510637764 (OP)
I don't have the stomach to read through this whole thread. Can someone just tell me if this is bait or real? I am leaning towards bait there is no way a serious country is letting 16 year olds vote.

>>510655220
its real, its being reported on by bbc news. The government is in a desperation spiral because they are fucking everything up and 16 year olds are their hail mary to avoid extinction.

Lower the age to 10, it doesn't matter when it's an illusion of choice to control you

Enfranchisimg the young with token concessions thatean nothing so they get drafter, duh.

*Taps sign*

>>510637764 (OP)
Two tier Kier is smart.
Most of those between 16 in 18 in Britain are shitskins.
Shitskins will vote for him.

Can’t go in a pub,
Can’t buy paracetamol
Must vote - for what we tell you is fashionable.

>>510655755
Its actually completely retarded because they dont vote, working class kids dont vote or give a shit about politics in general. Racist kids and children of rich conservatives are much more politically engaged.

And with migrants breeding like rats - it’s invasion via corrupt pedophile politicians.

>>510655343
Insane, well at least we might get some white immigration soon. Wonder if sargon will go down with the ship or finally get out before it's too late.

>>510644200
Young people are complete npcs therefore turbo leftists.

you only start getting based at 20-25

>>510655944
Shitskins will vote.
You just have to tell them: If you don't vote, they will end your gibs and expell you back to whatever shit hole you came from.

>>510639366
Keep in mind that Reform only received around 10% of the vote. Now Reform is at 30% of the vote, not that they'll actually solve anything.

>>510637764 (OP)
Old enough to vote. Not old enough to know the crimes of the state.

>>510643855
Labor support has imploded since then, while Reform has surged.

>>510637764 (OP)
>Who benefits from it?
Labour because it's well known that young people are more likely to vote for them than the Tories. This is basically just election rigging, like stories of African Democracies where the winning party immediately changes the rules of elections to make it harder for anyone to oust them.

Politicians care more about winning elections than improving their countries.

>>510637764 (OP)
>Why is this happening now all of a sudden?
It was in the manifesto, p112.

>>510654963
So what do we do? Or you.
Keep jerking off?

>>510643472
Cry more Ranjit

>>510656703
Make sure you have some tools for when the time inevitably comes.

LOOK FORWARD IN ANGER
https://xcancel.com/GBPolitcs/status/1945923386867388426#m

>>510657355
What time?
When all the Chuds will rise up and take control with karate chips?
You and what army?

Wake the fuck up. You're in Britain for crying out loud.

>>510637764 (OP)
Now they have pretext to mobilize child soldiers. Probably also lowers the age of consent.

>>510639999
Gotta checkem and pray for your roll to be succesful

>>510651012
You hate people trying to share their experiences with you. This is why all westerners pretty much agree that yours is the first nation to fall to mass immigration.

>>510637764 (OP)
This happens when you don't have free speech.

How many years until it's 100% muslim house?

>>510659015
Where will the babylon bloods flee?

>>510659111
Israel.

>>510637764 (OP)
He is on epstein files and he is controlled by the jews. Keep asking the same fucking question all over again... use your fucking brain for a little okay ? The Niggerland is full of Muslims and he wants to give them even more power to overvote natives. Duhhh because migrants will vote for jewish controlled like him cuz they give them money and he can stay in power.

you either rise up now or it's Children of Men timeline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A8__UZ_BQg
You're just going to cope and call us mutts as opportunity fight back dwindles and if your fighting spirit is that gone. ...Guess you deserve to go.

>>510658196
The current economic model is unsustainable. Combine that with the competency crisis, spiralling up employment, rising inflation and growing unrest and there is going to be a crunch in the next few years.
If you haven't already realised it, this is all by design.

>>510659197
monarchs in a war ravaged country?

>>510641690
Wouldn't a jew talking point be that there is a political solution? Didn't Nathan Rothschild explicitly state this almost 200 years ago, that he who controls the money controls the empire, and he controls the money?

>>510654652
>The illegals don't even touch the surface, the pakis that come on banana boats are like 20k a year mean while the gov is importing 100s of thousands of Deliveroo workers every year. Reform is literally tory 2.0. Cucked out and just bangs on about boat migrants which are a pale comparison to the nonwhites let in legally, and in addition say reform gets in AT THE END OF THE DECADE they will do nothing about it anyway. If you think the party with a paki chairman will save Britain and is RW you are braindead and retarded

It's already decided that the west was going to get millions of people from the 3rd world to genocide white people.

All of the politicians that come along to fix everything won't fulfil their promises. They will all be controlled opposition plants.

Reminder there's plenty of evidence of this, as multiple western politicians were elected on the basis of stopping immigration. Which then resulted in it being increased, much less stopped. Meloni in Italy is exhibit A.

Anyone with an above room temperature IQ with average pattern recognition, should be able to come to the logical conclusion that there is no political solution.

Democracy is such a joke at this point.
Who is retarded enough to believe in muh democrasheen?
It's obvious only strength matter.
Either whitey will man up and violently crush its government either it will be crushed by it.
Might is right.

>>510637764 (OP)
BAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>510653843
Damn, I can't even have sex at 29 here

>>510656563
Young people are unpredictable, everyone is a commie at 18 but when you're 16 or so you sometimes watch Andrew Tate hustle on Tiktok all day or those weird AI videos with greek statues and stuff, and think you'd be swimming in money and bitches in Dubai if it wasn't for those hippies in parliament holding you down.

16 year olds massively voted for Milei in Argentina, for example. He won because socialists turned the place into a wasteland but that helped.

meanwhile in amerimuttland you will be thrown in prison for even holding hands with a 16 or 17 year old girl in public

>>510651073
Can the BBC stop blacking your history for one Show?

>>510639323
Good point. They need to reign in the circus, not make it more accessible to outsiders.

>>510660460
The youth are unable to sense how much of a loser you are pedo.

>>510637764 (OP)
>Who benefits from it?
Everyone who is in the Epstein list.

>>510654166
>>510654225
>I think there is going to be an IRA type response
X
if there wasn't one after you found out your police where covering for Shitskin rape gangs you won't ever. All the brave men in the UK died off and all that is left is larping cowards. Prove my mutt ass wrong. cowards.

>>510637764 (OP)
Just in time to lower the draft to 16.

>>510659793
>there is going to be a crunch in the next few years.

I feel like since 2008 we've been living that crunch.
And it's not going to get better in the following decades.

>>510660460
Funny how the people who think about this the most, are always the types that repulse girls of all ages.

>>510660294
How come?
I thought all Croatian girls were 10/10 and all the Croatian guys were Chads. Even though they chose to behave like niggers for the most part for some reason.

>>510660294
Lol

>>510661211
The guys who throws the bottle and who shows the finger, they behave as redpilled as Russians.

Wise. Now lower the age of majority to 16 in the technological evolution of mankind and society will progress. Get your mind out of the gutter and quit pearl clutching. Keeping grown folks and calling them children is creepy as fuck.

>>510637764 (OP)
I always freak out about american politics and think its over but then I see england and I feel much better

>>510660128
This. I could understand people having hope when Trump ran in 2016, but America and the rest of the world got worse all 4 years Trump was president
>but the stock market!
Line went up while America got worse

It has been 9 years since we elected trump in 2016, and America has gotten worse for 9 years.

No politician is coming to save us. They are merely auditioning to be princes and lords in the new new world order. They are accumulating wealth (illegally) so that they will not have to face the consequences of their actions like the commoners will.

These people are literally selling out their country to buy a place in whatever is coming next.

>>510661658
Oddly, they seem to be actively trying to accelerate the collapse.
I don't believe anyone could mistakenly be this consistently incompetent without it being deliberate.

>>510638826
it will help create a 3rd worlder ethnics first party

in 30 years there won't be any white people running anything in the UK

>>510638802
less than a decade, probably less than 5 years

>>510656294
there's no voting out of this mess

I only pray that when it does finally fall apart, the "elites" who perpetuated all of this end up on the receiving end of some very very very nasty comeuppance.

>>510662188
Yep. The fact that western governments are so aggressively wrong over and over again shows that it must be deliberate. It defies all logic to continue doing the things that are clearly causing the problems. Any honest government would reach the correct conclusion within a few years at most. To be still causing the same harm all these years later is evidence that it is all intentional.
The fact that anti-immigrant politicians rarely make it through (for differing reasons) and the ones that do get elected always 100% betray their voters shows that this immigration scheme goes all the way up to the highest levels of mankind. Something sinister is brewing beyond just the damage that's being caused. An army of brown people is being built up using taxes taken from white people.

>>510639233

And the age of criminal responsibility, military draft, gun ownership, drinking, age of consent etc.

If youre going to be an adult have some skin in the game.

>>510661753
Souf FC and Norf FC respectfully, Ivan.
And yeah they've got the right idea. There's no political solution when all your politicians are treasonous parasites.

>>510639668
>>510653843
But can you do Onlyfans at 16? Sex work is real work.

>>510661832
You shouldn't.
England is doing fine by comparison with the old US of A.

>>510661541
AWWWW SSHHEEEIIIIITTT
>>510658475

You g people vote refo...ack

>>510637764 (OP)
Idiotic move on Starmer.
The plus side of this is that maybe the English youth will vote out all muzzys and Muzzy lovers.

>>510664012
Impossible when such youth is already majority shitskin.

>>510664230
This.
They aren't just lowering the voting age because young people vote left; they're lowering the voting age because the youth is now brown, so they will support all pro-shitskin policies (which is all western policies)

>>510663730
>>510664012
It will backfire as the youth heavily support Corbyn. Corbyn's new ultra left party and the greens will split the whole left 3 ways. Labour are fucked.

>>510663375
>>510661832
USA has intense political divisions and major social problems (homelessness, opioid addiction, homicide), but is also immensely economically prosperous.

UK also has intense social problems and political divisions but unlike the USA the UK is not economically prosperous. Complete stagnation and decline.

>>510637842
The younger the darker

Iwouldn't be surprised if we see a global move towards 15 or 16 being the new adult age for everything that implies. It used to be that and only got raised to keep more people out of the workforce because of more demand for work than supply. Now it's shifting the other way. There's more of a need for labor than actual workers so younger people are going to have to grow up faster to pick up the slack. People forget that being mature is a matter of outside pressure forcing you to be responsible and think critically. With boomers living to be 200 years old those pensions aren't going to sustain themselves.

>>510663358
Lol no, the menopausal woke women who run all the Commonwealth countries will raise that to 21.

>>510638921
I used to think whites aren't susceptible to durka voodoo because we don't believe in it. Maybe the elite pedos are because they use it to get power.

>>510664478
>but is also immensely economically prosperous.

So what?
It's a parasite that is able to print its own money and everybody has to pretend that's wealth.
They have a few interesting advanced tech too, but it's mostly the former.

And if you think America is as proseprous as it was, say, in the 1950s, you're a fucking retard.
>But muh GDP is bigger now!
As I said, a fucking retard.

>>510662737
>Yep. The fact that western governments are so aggressively wrong over and over again shows that it must be deliberate. It defies all logic to continue doing the things that are clearly causing the problems. Any honest government would reach the correct conclusion within a few years at most. To be still causing the same harm all these years later is evidence that it is all intentional.

Once you notice its intentional you notice all of the tricks that are used.

Something has been implemented to fuck you over

>We're the government we decided that we'd implemented it yesterday

Something is beneficial for you

>Mr Politician gives some rah rah speech but do nothing
>We want to do it but the other side of the uniparty government is stopping us
>This time we really want to do it but the judges are stopping us
>Seriously this time we want to do it but we're just the powerless government, there's nothing we can do to help
>I guess we're just going to have to tax you more as all of the politicians in every political party agree that we need more money for being parasites


It's the same tricks over and over again. If the government went away entirely is there anything at all that people would miss?

>>510663375
You consistently have the dumbest fucking posts.

>>510664478
Plus, that "prosperity" in America is in no small part because it has a third more of its population than it had in 1980.
It doubled even, if you count the illegals (some say it's close to 400 million).

Meanwhile the UK went from 60 to 70 in the same period.

>Muh economic growth
No, it's population growth.

>>510665175
Like your broke shithole doesn't have a money printer. Do you shitskins school?

>>510665275
Lol
Top Amerimutt cope:
Denial, projection and personal insults (or attempt at).

>>510665391
Pretty sure it's some disabled boomer on a VPN or an expat Bong.