without sacrificing womens rights /pol/?

>>510658487 (OP)
no
women are property of men and have no representation
thats the only way you fix birth rates

>>510658487 (OP)
I sure hope not

whites are sterile, black mutts are sterile, it's a recurring theme with the autism spectrum theyve been assigned with, sterile

>>510658487 (OP)
I'm moving to China

>>510658487 (OP)
Banning abortion has no effect on birth rates.
If women don't want children, they just won't have children.

>>510658487 (OP)
Yes, its called artificial wombs

>>510658487 (OP)
>sacrificing womens rights

Why is this a bad thing

>>510658641
have sex incel

>>510658487 (OP)
>women's rights were never a problem when they were forcing them to have abortions
anti-natalists are the worst fucking scum on earth

>>510658910
there will be no baby boom, the elites already know what's going on, like elon musk that spergs out about humanity going extinct, why they used a fake and gay epidemic like covid to try to create a baby boom, that never happened... because whites are sterilized, black mutts are sterilized, and yes it's because i'm the antichrist or fat gook that doesn't want to make their dick strong they couldn't do their god damn selves

>>510658487 (OP)
The one thing about the Chinks is that they can properly implement a policy without some nigger judge and their kikes blocking it.

If it works, then we are at the end game of this so called democracy.

>>510659112
Whites are inferior so them disappearing is a good thing. But I was talking about the world in general, China must pursue artificial life creation

What rights exactly are they referring to here?

It's always referred to in vague terms, never anything concrete.

>>510658487 (OP)

RED STATE

>>510659274
artificial life will be controlled by the state in a queen like mandated form
humans will be bugs forever more

>>510658487 (OP)
This is a joke. Vaccines caused infertility. They are keeping you occupied until you die.

>>510658487 (OP)
I figured it would happen which is why I thought the westerners arguing that low Chinese birthrates aren't the deathblow they think it is. After all there's precedence in communist nations doing exactly that, and it working to some extent.

>>510659322
Under the new law divorce is harder and abortions are only possible if its from rape, child will be dead/sick or the life of the mother is in danger.

>>510659431
And? We will also get genetically enhanced for better resilience, work and specialized for specific tasks

>>510658487 (OP)
fuck, theyll actually fix it, won't they.

>>510658487 (OP)
Well we could stop funding all the retarded "education" courses in universities as a start.
pic is related.

>>510658808
They don’t want you there

Unless they're legally reduced to the status of children and unable to be legally and financially independent of their father or husband it's all bullshit

>>510658963
she must have the right to do things in bed you don't know how to do

>>510658487 (OP)
Won't do shit when all the men are addicted to videogames and porn.

>>510659828
pair bonding with intent to make the next generation of humans is the hallmark of humanity
it displays the equality of the sentience of man
if such behavior is removed then mankind does not exist anymore
its just levels of different domesticated humanlike animals by an unaccountable system

Chinese bois don't have rizz which is why China is importing Africans.

>>510658487 (OP)
End feminism now.

>>510660142
You just afraid of what can be achieved by removing the inferior biological bag that creates inferior humans. Remove women from the equation and there is no limit to what we can achieve.

>>510658487 (OP)

>>510659039
>39 year old woman
Bro, that lady isn't having kids.

>>510658886
>Banning abortion has no effect on birth rates.
>If women don't want children, they just won't have children

You have to set up the economy and social norms so that getting married, staying married and having kids is women's best route to resources, security and social status.

If that involves banning women from the workplace, or just high status professions, or discriminating against unmarried childless women then so be it. That's a price I'm willing to pay.

>>510658487 (OP)
baning abortion will just worsen the case as they could easily see by what happened in Poland which has the lowest birth rates in europe since the ban took place.
But considering the pic is ai generated bullshit from some US tabloid - they will not ban abortion and force women to give birth to deown syndrome retards or ill kids like christkikes would love to.

>>510660318
You can remove women from the equation by removing female representation.
a bio female or a synthetic one still has to be obedient to the husband

>>510660661
> discriminating against unmarried childless women
Vance will call them cat ladies

>>510660558
Shit meme retard
China is based

>>510658487 (OP)
to be perfectly clear, I hate China viscerally. This, however, is one hundred percent the right action. Women having reproductive rights, though fair, is the reason for the continued drop in fertility. There are ZERO (0) countries where women that are entirely independent have high fertility. They are directly correlated.

I'm not being cringey when I say the only way to save the developed world is to force women to have more children or face severe consequences.

>>510660783
You are a retard. I hate foids.

>>510658487 (OP)
>em dash —

Sure just deport all the non-whites and execute all the jews

>>510660318
I have also arrived at that conclusion, women are the problem and must be removed for humanity to evolve further.

>>510660621
neither are (You)

>>510660661
All of this already happened in Romania under Caecescu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_770
It will work but all those children will be born into tremendous poverty and a shit life

>>510660824
>I hate China viscerally.
I bet you can't even argue why
China is the closes thing we have today to a NatSoc government.
Remove foid rights and add some green/animal rights laws and they become an utopia

>>510660953
Why do you even come here roastie? Go extinct in silence and stop bothering us

>>510658487 (OP)
Insufficient, borderline political cowardice

The problem of women's reproductive inefficiency is solved forever through impersonal engineering and readily available infrastructure.

Specifically, by putting women into barns, where they will be bred and milked to the full extent of efficiency granted by human Zootechnics, and then unceremoniously disposed of with a pneumatic needle when their bodies are spent and unproductive.

>>510658487 (OP)
Women's rights and high birth rates are mutually exclusive.
The root of all women’s rights is the shaming of older men grooming teen girls into complacent tradwives.
These girls get older and become sluts or career ladies who don’t produce as many offspring as the tradwife would’ve

>>510661146
finally, someone brings up the axotl tank solution.

>>510661024

That looks like they just banned abortion and contraception. Didn't mention anything about restricting women from college and careers. I think that's the more important part.

>>510661146
I feel like women would prefer this to marriage and monogamy.

>>510658487 (OP)
Based as fuck

>>510658487 (OP)
Guys we are on the wrong side again.

>>510661417
why would that aspect be relevant at all?

Yes. Women are literally the enemy of human life. Give them freedom to do so and they will kill their own kin for the most trivial of reasons, or no reason at all.

>>510660621
>fell for the /pol/ fertility meme

>>510662103
My aunt hit her 30's single and unmarried and i know a lot of women in that situation, none of them are ever going to have kids, stop coping.
This is the reality for most women, they have no future and they know it.

>>510658487 (OP)
>can we save birth rates
>without sacrificing womens rights
You whites and jews truly do deserve to go extinct. EVERY other MAN is on board with smashing vagina rights into a million pieces but NOOOOOO you whites and kikes honestly think you can suck you way up into some fat white bitches who will hate you regardless heart. You don't seem to even know your animals when it comes to the female at all. Likely jut another reason you do so poorly with them.

>>510662303
They just need quality dick (mine), got pix?

>>510658487 (OP)
Yes, because women have no rights to violate.

Institute a 10:1 ratio. For every 10 eligible jeets, niggers, or jews you are allowed one forced pregnancy.

>>510659274
>China must pursue artificial life creation
they already started like 15 years ago and have been working furiously with crispr

>>510661417
Yes, as it will result in liberation from social competition through the progressive elimination of language and deprivation of human interaction.

Is the cow not happy, while gazing into the void and ruminating, unconsciously contributing to a greater system, far beyond its ability to understand it?
I say she's happy in some form. Abstracted from the inherent cruelty of nature, forever. Cared for, forever. Being eventually diffused to the farthest reaches of the cosmos, one day, and swelling in numbers, perfected and selected into higher and more beautiful forms every passing generation.

Yes, the human species would greatly benefit from a radical form of sexual dimorphism brought upon by the criteria of desirability of our permanent technological environment.
The transhumanist integration of humanity into the industrial process itself.

>>510662482
You are a eunuch with no future either, now go serve your master, goy.

>>510658487 (OP)
These people had a one child policy like 15 years ago

Absolutely not. Women's rights are diametrically opposed to healthy birth rates. Giving women complete and absolute freedom and independence from men means they only pick the men they want. Women do not truly want a good 70% of men (and that's generous).
The foundation of civilization is monogamy. Enforcing monogamy means a large amount of women are going to be with men they don't find particularly desirable. But so what? Civilization should not deteriorate because a bunch of women's pussies don't tingle. Who cares? The bottom 75% of men need something to work for. To follow laws for. To get better for. To live for. We're essentially telling these men that they're undesirable goblins that will never get laid or have a family, while simultaneously begging them to sustain society.

>>510662506
americans already have the whole private prison workforce complex.

might as well marry the axotl tank concept to that.

all women convicted to jail lose bodily autonomy to the entity in question who rents them out for test drives or breeding reservation and of course the inmate in question loses all parental rights with the loss of bodily autonomy.

there. done. at least make the massive incarceration business of the Americas provide something of actual societal value except uncompetitive male workforce

>>510661146
At last, someone with real solutions

good idea chian.

>>510663192
it is an achievable form of the concept Frank Hebert coined. Axlotl tanks. look it up. It is Axlotl. i seem to have not typed the first L in my previous posts.

>>510658487 (OP)
No. Women should be punished for not having children.

>>510658487 (OP)
Working your whole life is not a right
It's a choice
Cue relativist karens

>>510663369
Achievable by the standards of those who persecute technological innovations

Show girls in high school how 'happy' modern women are. They'll beg to be married and ignore college.

>>510659039
Women voted for equality...not by making women better but by cutting down men, so women are an "equal option". This means society is operating from the lowest common denominator, not the best.

Also, women vote agaist me and for themselves, men vote for everyone...one day it became clear ALL laws ONLY benefit women, at the expense of men.

Every consequence is used for more power and more control...master and slave politics is women politics.

and to think, if you just went out and had some sex, your brain wouldn't be this fucked up

>>510658487 (OP)
Nuking women rights is an obvious required to giz the problem. Next obvious step is nuking wage slave culture and private equity buying out residential properties.

>>510661090
>I bet you can't even argue why
I can, they're not people, they're uppity animals who need to shut the fuck up and stay in their lane

>>510663781
i don't have the pic but according to some data a 64 IQ retard is more attractive to the majority of females than a 120 IQ mate.

Make of that what you will. but the logical conclusion is that the collective female desire is to reduce civilization to unga bunga stone age.

>>510663790
>And to think if you went out and drunk some vodka your brain would be fucked up enough so that you could pretend everything is fine.

>>510663790
Why would I want to entangle my life with a mentally ill woman who is emotionally married to a political ideology?

Women are already married...they married "ideas and principalities". Men are just the dowry providers.

>>510663485

>>510658487 (OP)
Banning abortion is a start, taxing women is a bad idea.

Removing women from education would help birth rates more than removing abortion.

>>510658487 (OP)
The data is clear you either waste women's birthing years in higher education and the workplace and watch your birthrates collapse, or you don't waste your women's birthing years.

>>510663982
Plenty of tards live kickass lives.

Remove women from the workforce, and double the pay for men.
>but what about all those lost jobs?
bullshit jobs. Millions work bullshit jobs where they do nothing. Society with become more efficient. And women would be happier. Men would be prouder. More children would be born because women can finally live like this >>510664967

>>510658487 (OP)
it'll probably work. unlike the West China is attacking the heart of the issue.
this will probably save China demographically in 30 years.

women are the ultimate deciders when it comes to births.
it's like ok
if you want to be a single woman with no children, then you'll have to pay for the luxury of doing so.
if you think sex doesn't have real consequences, well it does.

>>510665412
>bullshit jobs
that's the funniest part (honk honk)

>>510658487 (OP)
No

>>510658641
/thread. Our ancestors figured this out thousands of years ago. Our forefathers merely lost in the largest shit test of all time because women saw office jobs were a thing and knew they could make easy money and if they got the vote could hijack the government into forcing unmarried men to bail them out without having to love, support or bare those mens children. Feminism from day 1 was a fucking con.

>>510658487 (OP)
Reproduction and child rearing is such a waste of energy. They should finally develop an eternal youth pill.

>>510662748
>Giving women complete and absolute freedom and independence from men means they only pick the men they want. Women do not truly want a good 70% of men (and that's generous).

Hypergamy is somewhat relative. The higher the average woman's socioeconomic status gets relative to the average man's - the more she'll find the average man unattractive.

DEI and purposely hiring and promoting women over men is the absolute worst thing we could be doing for birthrates.

If we had a work culture and laws that hired and promoted MEN over women, to the point where the average man had way more socioeconomic status than the average woman - I think women would be more open to settling down with average men.

The increase in lookism, women wanting +6ft super model men with ridiculous salaries is a consequence of this. Women have their own money and high status jobs so that doesn't factor into attraction as much.

>>510664967
The only problem with this is that it has to come via violence. Women are not going to willingly give this up, that's what I think they don't understand. Everything women fought for was to not have a direct need for a man. That direct need for a man led them to be with men they didn't necessarily want. And women would legitimately work 60 hours a week in a job they hate to barely support themselves and have no children ever than be with a man they want.
My answer to this is simple: women getting what they want does not matter. It is irrelevant. Satisfying women is an impossible task with a non-existent benefit.

>>510661146
yes, you shitalians are truly low iq brownoids sucking on chinas dick so modern shitaly can survive. What a dumb idea

>>510658487 (OP)
Sounds based.

>>510658767
.......um chink Sissie, you have a lower tfr than us

>>510666232
>......um chink Sissie, you have a lower tfr than us

Remove Muslims from the equation. What's your white tfr?

I'd prefer if women worked even more and I got some NEETbuxx instead.

>>510658487 (OP)
no its impossible either you abolish women rights or just make artificial wombs.

>>510658963
Imagine being a woman for a minute. Would you be happy?

>>510666107
As much as people reference lookism, it only goes so far. Let's say you're a 25 year old woman that makes 85k a year. Not rich by any means, but a healthy amount above average. Even if a man is attractive, if he works at McDonalds, she'll still look down on him. She'll fuck him, she may even date him for a while, but a woman will not tolerate living with a man for the rest of her life while she makes over double what he does and has no ambition to do anything else.
So the only men that qualify for this woman must be rich AND handsome, because she can't go backwards. This is happening en masse all over the place, and it's why so many women are unsatisfied with dating and why 45% of women 30+ in 2030 will be single and childless. They waste their youth, beauty, and chastity having fun. The funny thing about women too? The worse they get, the higher their standards get. The less attractive for a long-term relationship they get, the more they demand.

>>510659853
This.

>>510666450
Show me a woman whose own decisions have made her happy.

>grow bigger penises
>consult C Wang

>>510658487 (OP)
Absolutely fucking BASED. Hopefully America follows suit and bans abortion, along with every other country. Thanks be to Almighty God! GLORY, HONOR AND VICTORY TO JESUS CHRIST, KING OF THE UNIVERSE

>>510666559
Same for men. Men will go online and sperg about low birthrates and then proceed to call their women whores while fawning for asian women.

>>510658487 (OP)

Ultimately you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. Women will not just give up their rights and go back to being brood mares after they had a taste of feminism.

Governments are just going to have to start centrally planning reproduction.

>>510658487 (OP)
Xi can can god emperor of mankind now. We are ready.

GOD WINS AGAIN

SATAN LOSES AGAIN

BUT DONT WORRY, IM SURE YOULL DEFEAT GOD SOMEDAY OL BUDDY, DONT GIVE UP YOU BIG RED FAGGOT

>>510665853
It was never women.

It was jews taking advantage of pre-existing biological behaviors.

>>510664972
Taxing women for not having children is a way to force them into marriages since they won't be able to live on their own. And since as an aggregate women have proven they WON'T marry and WON'T have children if given the choice, then they have to be compelled to.

Men are expected to risk their lives in combat for their country, as well as build and maintain all infrastructure. That's their end of the social contract.
Women are expected to birth the next generation. That's the other side of the social contract. And they're not holding up their end of that bargain.

Therefore they have to be made to, just like men have to be made to register for the draft and charge machine gun fire. If women aren't having babies, then there's no reason to protect them, and the protection women enjoy for being women have to be eliminated. They enjoy privilege specifically because of their monopoly on wombs. But if they won't use them, then they must lose those privileges.

Taxation is a great start, but not even the final solution, which would be arranged marriages.

>>510658641
can’t wait till you’re part of the suicide statistic for lonely men

Oh no, they banned abortion... now there's a serious risk of pregnancy whenever we have sex-
>buys vibrator
Oops, problem solved! Sorry incels!

>>510666633
Women are whores. Go home roastie, you will never have your perfect partner

>>510666450
Women are never happy.

>>510666640
Rape them into submission. That’s their natural obedience switch.

>>510666835
But if a woman call all men degenerate rapist moids, you're the first to be butthurt. Funny how that work, right?

>>510666640
>Women will not just give up their rights

The Taliban accomplished that overnight. How many feminist protests have there been in Kabul since they drove the Great Satan out?

The women will get with the problem when men are ready to enforce their will.

>>510666559
This. All women do is chase short-sighted self indulgence. That's all they have done with their freedom. They're drug addicts riding the dragon of free casual sex and endless attention in their youth, being re-validated every single day until they stare down the barrel of their 30s and inevitable menopause. They're just junkies getting high as fuck not realizing that it's going to destroy their bodies in the long run.
And in all honesty it's hard to blame them. Imagine you're a fresh, gorgeous 18 year old girl. Everyone wants you, you can fuck attractive men whenever you want, you get endless amounts of attention, everyone tells you this is the right thing to do, you go to college and essentially live on debt in a perpetual party for 4 years, then go out and get some bullshit job where you don't actually produce, create, or maintain anything. We're giving our most naive, new adults the keys to the kingdom. Did anyone think they'd CHOOSE to get married at 18 to a safe, good man, pop out 5 kids by 25, and be a stay at home mom?

>>510658808
there are millions of Chinese girls here already and they want to get knocked up

>>510666799
>tp
Foids are so fucking stupid.

>>510666799
All the power to you.
Thread is filled with coping dicklet INCELS, changs and timmies.
They'll be mating with their hand like always.

>>510658487 (OP)
I always knew China was going to be the Future.

>>510666931
But is there enough men who are desperate for a ball and chain outside of this shithole forum? Most of us would rather empower women with even more work.

>>510658487 (OP)
Goddamnit Xi stop making me more sympathetic to China
Goddamn commie bastard

>>510666891
Men are so happy that they had to develop AI waifus as a replacement. Men are fucking kill for not having sex. Men kill themselves for not having sex. Men will troon out and then get fucked as a way to cope for not having sex.

Seriously, pussy worship is harmful, calm down, there's no penalty for being single. No wonder boys are so miserable these days.

>>510666737
>Noooo women HAVE to take jobs from men and pay pedophiles to rob us blind!

Get a fucking hold of yourself

>>510666799
>just jacks off
WOOPS, sorry, guess i don't need a girlfriend after all. Guess i'll use the artificial wombs when they come out to pass my genes on.
You know, cause unlike you i don't hit a wall and become barren, i am fertile my whole life.

>>510666640
>Women will not just give up their rights and go back to being brood mares

Yeah I mean, look at the backlash that Trump got after overturning Roe v Wade!

>>510666922
Seeing how things are going soon they will be

>>510667069
Congratulations on being illiterate.

>>510667059
It's all biological imperative anyway combined with men's sex drives.

>>510667059
Natural selection is retarded when you consider what men are like. Absolute simps, and that's what sexual selection filters for. Maybe machines should replace us.

>>510666626
Based

>>510666368
you dropped to 1.02 you turd even if you adjust with migrants you got it worse basically only south korea - another slant eyed bugs and your kin from taiwan have it worse than you kek

>>510667173
Imagine needing a ball and chain to be mentally healthy. Fucking hell.

>>510666799
Oh you wanna stay single?
>taxes you to death/arrests you
Oops, problem solved! Sorry foids!

>>510666761
Can't wait until you find a damaged whore that takes your kids from you and has the court system confiscate half of your income every month for 18 years you absolute faggot.

>>510667194
>>510666626
The irony being China is an atheist country and all christian countries are imploding. All.

>>510667099
>muh genes
Ok so what? You'll just burden yourself heavily only to make more taxcattle. Nice going. Epic win.

>>510666640
The Taliban laughs at you

>>510667233
Nature is cruel but if men didn't want sex our species would die

>>510667046

If 10% of young men get radicalized and have competent leadership that'll be enough.
They can drag the normie cattle kicking and screaming back into Trad World.

>>510667277
>>taxes you to death
lmao

>>510667313
>Nature is cruel but if men didn't want sex our species would die
Yes and you have to admit that's pathetic. Without lust you wouldn't think about women at all. I have mostly bludgeoned my lust to death and I'm a better man for it.

>>510667323
That's probably true. An organized minority beats the disorganized majority.

>>510664967
poor woman, she just needs a high income bf

>>510667050

>>510667297
Since when am i expected to care what happens to the kid i make? If i just make a shitton of taxcattle then my genes pass on and i win.
Just because a surrendermonkey like you expects QUALITY for your children over quantity is why you are being outbred by niggers.

If you 4chan edgelords ever one day discover what abortion actually is, I want you to remember that it was the Christians who were against it, and protested it, and refused to shut up about it until it was outlawed. We did it. Not the atheists, not the Jews, not the Muslims. Christians abolished slavery and Christians abolished abortion. In America, the only group that stood up against this unfathomable evil was God-believing, Church-going, Bible-reading, Jesus-loving Christians.

>>510667323
>If 10% of young men get radicalized and have competent leadership that'll be enough.
Good luck with that, when (((they))) have been specifically inculcating a culture of helplessness and anti-intellectualism among young Whites. This board is clear proof of it.

>>510667046
Maybe not, but there are enough men who would get on board if you told them they could beat the shit out of feminists.

>>510667182
woman are the selectors in society for the most part, hence why rape is so bad -- it violates this basic societal law.

>>510667422
Well I still need a woman if I am unable to afford a surrogate child or two.

>>510667440
kek that's true, they managed to bring back Fascism without calling it Fascism
I'll drink to that

>>510667465
No, it will be the Chinese people.

>>510667465
Christians didn't do shit, you never did anything, you just sit in your house and moan about your dumb retarded book about a kike on a stick to your wall or smth. You don't stand for anything, your religion is a lie

>>510667443
So you'll spend all your savings on eggs for artificial wombs and then kys when they're all born? What are you winning with this, again?

>>510667512
I'd rather you employmaxx the women so I can NEET even harder.

>>510667546
Why do you need children?

>>510666761
births rates still not fixed
so not my problem whether dead or not

>>510658487 (OP)
>3+ child policy
based china saving it's population while keeping it's economic dominance without importing jeets

>>510667059
No it's women's fault

We will force you to reproduce with an ugly bald short man with a bad temper, and you'll put up with him for the rest of your life, macaco

>>510658487 (OP)
pretty based, too bad he's a commie faggot

>>510658910
artificial wombs can't raise the child though
you'd probably be better off just paying women to be surrogates if you only want their womb

>>510667465
Banning abortion isn't enough, we need to repeal the 19th and no fault divorce

>>510667589
Here's a word Euros can't seem to comprehend: WANT
I WANT to have children
I WANT to start a family
I WANT to be a Patriarch
I WANT to be remembered

>>510667589
>So you'll spend all your savings on eggs for artificial wombs and then kys when they're all born? What are you winning with this, again?
IMFUCKINGPLYING the government won't beg people to fuck the slave cubes for pay and then take care of the slaves themselves.

>>510667623
>We will force you to reproduce with an ugly bald short man with a bad temper, and you'll put up with him for the rest of your life

Extremely based. A lot of arrogant feminist women today deserve to be humbled in such a manner. I'd call that justice.

>>510667623
Do you have any self-awareness left in your head? There's a reason why women keep voting for libs all the fucking time, because you have men saying shit like this, all the fucking time.
It's for the same reason why men don't put up with feminists, because no one is retarded enough to be on the same side of people who despise you.

>>510658487 (OP)
>without sacrificing womens rights
No. We tried that, created every pro-familiy program, incentive, gibs, etc possible and it only had a small effect. Afghanist achieved way more by simply taking all their rights.

>>510667714
And why? How will your life improve?

>>510667730
And what makes your sperm worth begging for? You know that every man can theoretically sire gorillions, right? Who would pay you for your mediocre seed?

>abolishes synagogues
>calls out mutts' kiked up failed state
>intervenes in kikes' child murder lust in Gaza
>will abolish suffrage to stave off extinction
Hmm... I'm starting to come around to these commie zipperfaces' 3-D Mahjong...

>>510661090
>add some green/animal
Sneaky way to ask for more rights and gibs, monkey.

>>510659039
So, that's why I am being hounded by sperm donor ads on IG despite clicking "not interested" repeatedly: millions of chinkettes want my load in thei vag and on their face.
We should tell Xi that if he invades Taiwan, no more White cum for China. He will end up with roastie rebellion on his hands.

>>510658487 (OP)
>Tax
Then they'll just leave. Isn't that what you fags say will happen whenever you tax someone?

>>510667828
>Slaves need to be high quality and not just disposable muscle
You keep moving goalposts, retard.
Why do you need PERFECT disposable slaves? Do you need a perfect moist towelette to wipe the cum from your balls?

>>510658886
>Banning abortion has no effect on birth rates
Retard alert.

>>510667956
Again, why would the government want dozens of taxcattle with your genes on them? Sperm is free, so why not choose the best men for it?

>>510658487 (OP)
Of course not, don't be ridiculous

>>510667465
No, China banned abortions. And China is atheist.

SCOTUS, not christians, overturned a court case. They didn't ban abortion. Abortion is still legal.

If you want to take a victory lap over what a foreign atheistic country did while claiming you're responsible, go right ahead. And we'll just laugh, as usual.

>>510667443
>Since when am i expected to care what happens to the kid i make? If i just make a shitton of taxcattle then my genes pass on and i win.
Nooooo it doesn't work like that! You have to be a heckin' goofy and fun dadderino! You supposed to reshape your entire personality into being about how heckin' based it is to have kids and how they saved your soul from self destruction.

>>510667828
>How will your life improve?
I'll have people who look up to me, ask for my wisdom, seek my knowledge, share my hobbies/interests
I want to see my sons do well in sports or other activities, I want to see my daughters blossom into wonderful women whether they be tomboy or not, I want to eventually become a grandpa and also give out my knowledge and wisdom
And ultimately see my family, nay my tribe, grow and expand and hopefully establish a Noble Lineage, maybe not on Earth, but maybe on other worlds, God-willing

>>510668021
Because unlike your monkey ass, i'm /white/.

>>510667798
>There's a reason why women keep voting for libs all the fucking time

More proof that letting them vote was a mistake.

And honestly there should be property/income requirements for men voting too.

Or just get rid of democracy all together and go back to hereditary monarchy.

>>510668113
>I'll have people who look up to me, ask for my wisdom, seek my knowledge,
>posts tranime
HAHAHAHAHA!
Ok, let's move on.
You're probably no older than 22. You'll grow out of this when you realize it's way over your head. Children can only make your life harder.

>>510668157
So is a billion other people.

>>510658487 (OP)
>Tax single women
Holy shit
Xi is too based for this world sometimes

>>510667798
Women vote for liberals because they are capitalist individualist, the average /pol/ack is an extreme socialist leftist thinking not of himself as an individual with need but rather a community of people, this is the reason women vote for capitalists, this is the real reason for why in democracies in which women are the majority the country goes liberal. Its because women are real individuals with no loyalty, they never have to perform any great sacrifices of individuality like men do, that is why you have to wear a social mask to go around, because you are a traitourous group of whores, you do not belong anywhere because you chose your own individual interest over those of the community.

Women are the Bourgeoisie

I see single mums all the time in the UK. women are always getting pregnant. I don’t understand the “panic”. Seriously, where are all the 20-35 year old women with no kids? Basically everyone I know has at least one

>>510668210
And that means trillions of tax cattle theoretically.
The more the marrier if birthrates are SO BAD THEY HAVE TO BEG US TO WED.

>>510668250
Basically all non-whites are based.

>>510668210
Nigger I am 27 and I have been watching anime since 2007
Fuck out of here with your newfag tourist retardation

>>510667297
But muh heckin' legocity! how else will the world know how based i was for being a dadderinoi!

>>510667672
>surrogates
These contracts always end up failing in court. An artifical womb can't gain emotional appeal to the legal system.

>>510658487 (OP)

Wow china is on the leading edge here. Why are we so behind? We must double down harder than them on this.

>>510658487 (OP)
No, literally 45% of the birth rate decline is due to feminism. It’s an unfortunate trvth. Haha

>>510668291
Even if they wanted trillions, they could have a trillion GIGACHADDEUS MAXIMVS taxcattle and it would cost them nothing. No one is EVER asking for your sperm. Snap back to reality.

>>510668322
>27
BROOTAL! You'll never have children. Mentally unfit.

>>510668335
lmao

>>510668444
>Mentally unfit.
Says the fucking slav, hell nobody sees your people as mentally fit, we just wanna fuck your women and pray they dont get second hand fetal alcohol syndrome

>>510668444
>THey would have gigachad cattle
And are those phantom gigachads you seem to be so emasculated by in the room with us anon? Are they fucking your slave cube now? Are you so pathetic you don't think your genes worth passing on?
Shameful.

>>510666640
>>510660694
>women just wont't do it
Niggers, Its China. They welded people in their houses during covid. They rounded up their muslims and put them in reeducation/organharvest gulags.
They will make them do it

>>510668562
I'm only a slav-speaker. No slav blood in me and you'd know as soon as you'd see me. 200% wop.

>>510668567
Non-sequitur. If the govt wanted gorillions of slaves they'd raise by themselves, they'd ask for sperm of the top 10% of men. I sincerely doubt you are even in the top 50% being that you're here with us.

>>510668198
>just get rid of democracy all together
based

>>510668113
I hope you make enough money to pay child support and continue to pay your bills you little faggot cuck. Men who romantisize the idea of having children gives women the ick and they will walk all over you and take everything you're worth.

>>510668701
The hell are you doing in Croatia? Or is that a VPN?
Either way you're still 100% dumbass

>>510658487 (OP)
There is one thing universally correlating with low birth rates everywhere on earth regardless of culture, and that's women's education. It seems that you can have survival, or you can have educated women. Perhaps you can't have both.

>>510668785
At this point I'll get a surrogate, and don't worry, I'm not Chad so I already give them the ick by default

>>510666153
People have far too many choices today

In times past most men did what their fathers did or picked from a small pool of trades that were a societal necessity.

Giving people options seems to increase unhappiness, for women especially. They shouldnt be given any other choice but to stay at home and rear the next generation, they'd be happier for it.

One thing I've learned from clown world is people and especially women fall in line to common consensus, you just have to flip to script and the most insane blue haired liberal will turn into the most loving and loyal house wife.

>>510668793
>The hell are you doing in Croatia? Or is that a VPN?
Believe it or not, European countries aren't 100% homogenous. Incredible, I know.
>Either way you're still 100% dumbass
I'm the only one making any sense ITT and you're a literal weeb faggot. Sit down!

>>510668701
>WAAAAAAAH THEY WILL WANT TO MAKE EUGENIC SLAVES OUT OF THEIR OWN SEED, THUS MAKING AN ENTIRE CASTE OF SLAVES MADE FROM THE RICH AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO RULE AS MUCH AS THEY DO, THUS BEING A RISK OF OVERTHROWING THEM.
>OUR BETTER, SMART SEED WILL MAKE THE PERFECT BRAINLESS CATTLE RETARD SLAVES
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE RETARD NIGGERCATTLE NOW THAT WE CAN TURN THEIR NIGGERCATTLE SEED INTO SLAVES THAT WILL BE EASIER TO CONTROL
This is you, this is your brain on your weird "WASP Slave Cattle" fantasies of white chads with thick jaws doing work for their pudgy jew masters.
Nor would they willingly make jew slaves for themselves. You are proving how bad your countries education is by not applying lateral thinking.

>>510668840
I disagree, men have little to no choice while women have infinite choices

>>510668863
But why leave Italy for Croatia? Northern Italy is great in all honesty.
Hell I'd leave for Spain if those damn gun hating commies would hang and they made a 2A already

>>510658487 (OP)
best solution is to allow man to beat woman if they cheat.
only this would fix the entire reproductive thing.

>>510667014
Why would you risk western matriarchy divorce laws?

>>510658886
It'll cause more unintended children to happen but yeah the amount that it would be would not nearly be as high as the CCP would hope for. Women there would just change to adapt by being much more mindful and careful with birth control - they'd have to ban that too and good luck with that without causing societal uproar. What are they gonna do, make pulling out illegal and have a government official watch everyone who is fucking to make sure he cums inside? There is only so much abuse a society is willing to take and the Chinese have plenty of people who already see shit for how it is.

>>510668905
I could tell without reading that this post (like every other you made) was garbage, but this time tripled down on the garbage factor. Remove yourself from this thread so mentally healthy and intelligent anons can correspond in peace.

>>510662303
>>510660621
my mom was 43yo when i was born.
my dad told that me i was an "accident" as she stopped doing contraception, because she thought she was too old to get pregnant.

>>510658487 (OP)
Islam is right about women

>>510668977
You don't understand the history of this place so don't even bother.

it has always been the secret to birth rates declining that womans rights and education is the leading factor to decline.
You want more babies? outlaw abortion, make women stop going to college and letting them work jobs.

the one time this happened was in romania under Ceaușescu, he outlawed abortion and birth control to the point they had an explosion of orphans

>>510668981
Men will say shit like this and then whine about misandry

>>510668999
It's ok to admit i BTFO'ed you Italian-anon. Your people was never really known for being smart anyway, even your towers lean.

careful what u wish for

>>510669032
Oh I'm aware, Constantine, Diocletian, and Aurelian were from or descended from people in the Balkans, nevermind that it was part of the roman empire

>>510658487 (OP)
This guy really is the living embodiment of the Apple 1984 commercial now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErwS24cBZPc

Hopefully that woman with the sledgehammer saves China.

>>510669108
Italians have highest IQ in Europe. What do you have? Highest incidence of fluoride-induced brain damage. You seem to be a perfect example of this.

>>510669151
That's just ancient history.

>>510658487 (OP)
We are living in an anomaly where we as a species are pretending our women can function independently, soon that delusion will be left behind.

>>510658487 (OP)
China didn't already ban abortions? Thought most East Asian countries were really strict about it.

>>510668863
>(((Croatian))) telling fellow whites to just not breed.
come on boys youre smarter than this.

>>510669132
Niggers aren't growing regardless

>>510666450
I’d have a much lower level of consciousness and be infinitely more susceptible to the groupthink. I’d be happy if I was told I’m happy.

>>510669284
Look around you. No one using this site is breeding; at least no one posting ITT.

>>510669197
Mmhm, i'm the stupid one and you can't even comprehend slave culture and how to maintain a sturdy but retarded base.
You BELIEVE THAT the rich and famous think their children enough to be their slaves and that's what makes you retarded.
If there is a MANUFACTURED SLAVE CLASS, they will use slave DNA for it, not "Superior" dna, and you are retarded for even pushing that.

>>510669077
>the one time this happened was in romania under Ceaușescu, he outlawed abortion and birth control to the point they had an explosion of orphans
I see both of us watch the same channels

>>510658487 (OP)
I f women want to get married and have children than they need to submit to a man.
Be a virgin.
And don't cheat.

>>510669284
I have good news, Frieren is coming back next week

>>510668833
digits speak the truth, consider yourself blessed. I'm witnessing my nephew have his life taken from him by his daughters mother. once you get them pregnant and she gives birth you've given up your rights as a human. she has all the power and will use the government to enforce her will upon you at the threat of gunpoint. Don't fall for the trap.

>>510659104
>anti-natalists are the worst fucking scum on earth

china is confirmed based but they ban the western internet so u cant really live there its impossible

vpns dont work either they ban them

>>510669368
If they were to create slaves, they'd create separate castes for manual and mental labour. Which are you ideal for? Probably neither. Who's pining after your sperm, and why?

>>510658487 (OP)
The only other way would be getting rid of all the various forms of birth control. Nature would take its course. The problem is that neither you or the whores want that.

There used to be a plant that acted as a natural form of birth control that was cultivated in The Roman Empire but the demand for it caused it to go extinct. The last man, with the last plant faced a client so desperate and selfish that they sacrificed its potential to every other person and every future generation just for their own selfishness. That entire episode sums up women and all forms of birth control perfectly.

A lot of guys want a submissive tradwife but none of them actually have traditional lifestyles. None of them want to be a father either.

>>510669675
Whats the point when women refuse to act traditional?
I for one would love to be a dad but our system makes fatherhood a huge fucking risk these days

>>510658487 (OP)
There's a weird guy on /b/ that has this fantasy of turning women into meat. He has this whole lore created around it and posits the question of how you'd feel it out sister,other, etc female relative were turned into foodstuffs at a certain age. I imagine he is also on /lit/ and has a whole universe of literature surrounding it.

>>510658487 (OP)
the gov already taxes non married people more

>>510658487 (OP)
>Single woman tax
Fucking BASED.
The cock carousel should have a literal toll, kek.
Pay up roastie, my NEET bux won't fund themselves.

birth rates won't increase while women are allowed to work

>>510669268
the chinese species are literally bugs. they watch their young hatchling and other fellow hive mates get crushed by a semi-truck in the street like an insect and carry on with their day like nothing happened. Life has no value as they aren't sentient beings.

Keep having more babies goy its for the good of the economy goy

>>510658487 (OP)
chinese century incoming, this did it the west just lost

>>510658487 (OP)
Well how about that, after 50 goddamn years and using the collective intellect of over a billion 100+IQ Chinamen, they finally fucking put 1 and 1 together and figured out it was just women.
Something the average /pol/tards realizes in just two months.

>>510658886
You’re right, they should be banning birth control and education instead

>>510669999
checked

>>510658641
Fippy fibby, modern women deserve to be treated like livestock.
Throw away any illusions any of you might have, they cannot and will not be wives. If forced into the role they'd make their husbands lives miserable. The only way they can be useful is on the end of a chain.

>>510669900
Not with your tiktoking daycare participants or your no-fault divorce

>>510668985
>ban birth control
>Women stop being whores
I see this as an absolute win!

>>510670004

>>510666450
Of course not. Women are objectively inferior. They should still be treated equal to men, not given special privileges.

>>510658487 (OP)
It’s the only way
And menopausal women can fight the wars with the young guys
>>510659039
Asia will be hapa

>>510670084
the current stock sure. but if the are raised away from the subversive anti male media, the future generations can be a bit more relaxed. we just need to fix the patriarchy and start raising girls right again

>>510669132
>experiencing abortions
love the newspeak. abortions are something that happen to women, not something they specifically seek out.

>>510667798
>There's a reason why women keep voting for libs all the fucking time
Voting is not going to save anyone, things WILL come to violence, and hopefully you'll be one of the first "people" killed.
All voting accomplishes is kicking the can down the road, because politicians don't give a fuck and never have.

>>510670425
they absolutely should not be treated equally what the fuck is wrong with you. we don't need to abuse them or nothing but they should never be treated equally.

>>510669132
It's China, if they don't want the niggers anymore they'll just fucking kill them or stick them in camps like they do Muslims.

>>510658487 (OP)
There's already 1.5 billion chinks, the world doesn't need any more. There needs to be a mass insect die off to save the earth.

>>510658487 (OP)
All the babies that died from forced abortions in the past died for nothing.

>>510661146
https://youtu.be/K9VWhHJaSjA?t=17

>we will try everything
>except making life good

>>510658487 (OP)
Our ancestors lived under brute biology; we live under a new layer of man-made rules, expectations and prices. Remove or redesign those constructs and the net reward of motherhood rises back toward the ancient baseline.

>>510658487 (OP)
You can revert demographic decline, wumaos better come to terms with reality sooner rather than later.

>>510666640
The real genie will be women being supplanted by toasters with tits and recorded voices.

*can't

>>510666761
You'll be waiting a long time cuntoid

>>510666761
No

>>510658487 (OP)
Based China showing the world that feminism and women’s rights is the enemy of the human race.

meet the new plan, same as the old plan

>>510658487 (OP)
abortion was never a woman's right
abortion is the opposite of human rights

>>510658487 (OP)
incentives are the best way to do this.
China could also mass produce citizens in africa for cheap.

>>510658487 (OP)
BASED XI!!

>>510659433
no retard, it's aliens who keep birth rate low, never heard of 51?

>>510667529
>woman are the selectors in society
This is mainly only true in modern history. What we call 'dating' is a relatively new invention, I'm talking the past 100-150 years or so. Pre-Industrial revolution, women would've lived in tighter communities where everyone knew everyone and their parents were influencing their choices. Before that, their parents would've been outright selecting or limiting her selection pool of men more directly. Even longer before that, marriages would've been more political or about family advantage. The ancient wisdom was that young women weren't good at selection and needed parental guidance.

Courting has changed significantly over the past century, as a byproduct of the industrial revolution. It's changed even more so these past few decades as a byproduct of advances in communication. We have yet to see the full long term consequences of this play out.

>>510658487 (OP)
No. The whole women men equal thing was a mistake. Women have it better by default. We need men's rights movements. The whole feminism shit was antithesis to nuclear family idea being retarded. Too many fucking married incels beating his wife. Now that we have smartphones and shit we don't need that. It's been a very long and distressing problem reaction solution cycle. Now it's time to end it. Women needs to have kids first to deserve anything ever from society over the age of 18.

>>510658487 (OP)
The Han Emperor Xi...I kneel.

>>510659104
The one child policy never forbade multiple births, it merely taxed them at a higher rate / made them pay a fine / etc. It's the autistic chinese who ree'd at it and killed them instead.

>>510669019
The Finn's natural mating strategy is to maximize autism. I'm not surprised.

>>510669132
Look at the proportion of black to white population since the 1900s, before abortion was a thing.
It was roughly the same.
The advent of abortion is not increasing nor decreasing the black population percentage.
They will have 2 kids, abort 3, then have two more. Whereas paradoxically, if they just had the four in the first place they would stop there.

>>510658487 (OP)
"Women's rights" were destroyed worldwide in 1968. Women have the right to become esteemed mothers and raise large families, they have the right to be the sweet and loving cornerstone of society. Making powerpoints for bossman and aborting babies are not rights, in fact they are the opposite, some horrid neofeudal depravities to humiliate helots.

>>510658487 (OP)
It's literally this easy.
Women are a fucking joke and they should never have been given as much power as they currently hold.
Their sole contribution to humanity has always been shitting out children.

>>510658487 (OP)
Taxing singles should being the first thing our governments should have done and banning abortions

>>510658487 (OP)
>broke: two party system
>woke: two superpower system

similar to how the usa and ussr imitated each other in certain regards during their rivalry to score geopolitical soft power points (america becoming more institutionally "progressive," russia becoming more economically/politically liberal), i suspect the rivalry with china is slowly going to make american social/economic policy more based in the long run (and china's probably going to become more culturally degenerate)

>>510658487 (OP)
China Won
They are the future of humanity

>>510662748

>The foundation of civilization is monogamy

Fuck off, Christkike>>510662748

>>510658808
If they legalized .22 firearms for fun I wouldn’t even look back

>>510662748

>We're essentially telling these men that they're undesirable goblins that will never get laid or have a family, while simultaneously begging them to sustain society.

Editing issue but forgot to add that this is *always* how history has operated. 75% of all men die as virgins fighting in war or some other disposable service, while 25% get married, maybe even less.

What makes you think you deserve pussy just because it'd motivate you from not tugging at your own penis and doing productive work? Lol tf out of here

whitoids are so fucked lmao

>>510662847
>all women convicted to jail lose bodily autonomy to the entity in question who rents them out for test drives or breeding reservation and of course the inmate in question loses all parental rights with the loss of bodily autonomy.
The only thing preventing this is the fact that prostitution is illegal, and they might get around it by arguing that the women are unpaid, so merely sex slaves (in accordance with the constitution), so there's a non-zero chance that this is already both legal and practiced.

>>510680811
You dont have to be Christian to belive in virtue of sexual morality nigger

>>510658487 (OP)
They're not going far enough. To answer your question though no

>>510658487 (OP)
https://youtu.be/UXUkameA0r8
>4:47
you tell me dude. the feminists don't think so.

>>510663982
Women hate intelligent men because those are the only ones that can see through their bullshit.
Is just impossible for you to be intelligent and not sexist as fuck.

>>510658487 (OP)
China is the future

>>510667313
>Nature is cruel but if men didn't want sex our species would die
And?

>>510658487 (OP)
Women should only have kids if they want them. Some women do not. That is their right and their choice.

>>510659828
More like genetically "enhanced" for obedience, no way are they not going to use that as an opportunity to create the perfect slave race.

>>510683159

If women have no obligation to have kids then men should have no obligation to serve in the military or defend their country. Conscription should be abolished in feminist countries.

But of course they won't do that - it was never about equality it was about extra privileges for women

>>510660621
el retardo...

Who will women's rights (or any rights for that matter) be for if there's nobody around anymore.

>>510658487 (OP)
6 hour 4 day work week + affordable housing in reach of work + other support.

>>510667833
>>abolishes synagogues
>>calls out mutts' kiked up failed state
>>intervenes in kikes' child murder lust in Gaza
>>will abolish suffrage to stave off extinction
>Hmm... I'm starting to come around to these commie zipperfaces' 3-D Mahjong...
China's version of communism is the ultimate system, the "end of history" if you will. Liberal democracy with capitalism is not the "end of history" as Francis Fukuyama claimed after the USSR fell.

>>510668264
>Women vote for liberals because they are capitalist individualist, the average /pol/ack is an extreme socialist leftist thinking not of himself as an individual with need but rather a community of people, this is the reason women vote for capitalists, this is the real reason for why in democracies in which women are the majority the country goes liberal. Its because women are real individuals with no loyalty, they never have to perform any great sacrifices of individuality like men do, that is why you have to wear a social mask to go around, because you are a traitourous group of whores, you do not belong anywhere because you chose your own individual interest over those of the community.
That's the most retarded shit I've ever read.

>>510658487 (OP)
turns out china was the good guy all along

>>510658487 (OP)
>without sacrificing womens rights /pol/?
Mathematically impossible.
Mutually exclusive conditions.

>>510668580
>Niggers, Its China. They welded people in their houses during covid. They rounded up their muslims and put them in reeducation/organharvest gulags.
>They will make them do it
Why is this bad?
The West is suffering from too much liberalism and freedom (liberty = liberalism = freedom).
We need authoritarianism to solve our problems, and far fewer rights.

>>510668811
>There is one thing universally correlating with low birth rates everywhere on earth regardless of culture, and that's women's education. It seems that you can have survival, or you can have educated women. Perhaps you can't have both.
Bingo