Thread 510678714

>>510678714 (OP)
EPA fuel efficiency requirements.

>>510678714 (OP)
To be fair, the Law mandates crumble zones in modern cars. So instead of the impact engergy being transmitted to the occupants the car crumples .

It's design mandated by law.

>>510678955
na car are made to break like that so the part doesn kill you when a stronger impact try to move them through you
if they're too strong it's going to kill you
they made it so it break and the cage protecting the driver is stronger so the rest absorb the impact and break before going through the vehicle pretty neat

>>510678955
My mistake, not the EPA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_economy

>>510678962
If your car has a crumple zone, you are my crumple zone.

>>510678714 (OP)
anon... cars are supposed to get all wrecked like that... it's so the frame absorbs all the energy from the crash...

>>510678962
But the physics of causing zero damage to the old iron hogmobile is because modern cars have to be lower mass to meet fuel efficiency requirements.

>>510679284
It's a plot by Big Autobody. Huge business rebuilding crumpled cars.

>>510678962
Crumple zones MAY save lives but they sure as fuck fuck the owner of the car more. Mandated by law yet insurance companies are not required to cover the full replacement cost of a totaled vehicle so you are left holding the bag on whatever loan amount you still had while also having to get a new vehicle usually with a new loan. You lose and jews win again.

>nb4 hurr dont buy new buy used

>>510679274
the dude who drove there to begin with had gigantic fucking balls or a lot of crack
maybe both

>>510678714 (OP)
the crumple zone people are right

>>510679551
Aussies have no brains, hur dur I’m gonna drive a road train on unpaved roads when it’s raining

>>510679680
Well once you go inland a bit the roads become basically Africa tier

>>510679162
That's great, until a minor 5mph bump completely bends your subframe, crumples the suspension and you have no way to get to work without buying another shitbox, which you can't afford because you just lost your job.

>>510679799
Oops left my tranny flag on

>>510679615
Well duh. Just ask yourself, would you rather take a tumble off a motorcycle wearing this or a crash helmet? (A bike helmet is made of polystyrene for anons who don't know)

>>510678962
Guess what. Youre in the crumple zone

>>510679832
Yea there needs to be a balance between safety and being a cheap piece of shit like tbe op image shows.

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Jul 27, 2017 — Imperials were banned from demolition derbies because of these advantages. Nothing else is built like these cars.

>>510679615
THERE ARE TOO MANY FUCKING PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET THANKS TO ALL THIS SAFETY SHIT AND MEDICAL SHIT NOW
Humanity was never supposed to get this large, more people need to fucking DIE

>>510679680
kek
when every choice you can take is a bad idea
>>510679832
Obviously it led to extremely less solid vehicle who only drive properly when they're new and have a shorter lifespan
probably some of it is program obsolescence to some point
I bet they never liked a car who last 40 year

>>510679878
idk. armor is made of layers to withstand blunt trauma as well as cutting and piercing.

>>510678955
>>510678962
GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>510678955
My 2000 diesel gets 22mpg

>>510678714 (OP)
what about japanese cars?

>>510678714 (OP)
Id rather have the new car hit my old car... But I'd sure as nigger fucking Christ rather be in the new car if I'm hitting the old one.

>>510679615
>saves 4 extra people per 100 million
wow that's really worth driving a $20,000 plastic toy that looks like a bar of soap instead of an actual car

>>510680639
Yes.

>>510679996
I AM the crumple zone

>>510679551
Those trucks are alarmingly capable.

>>510680802
>memeflag
do not reply to me again

>>510679551
>the dude who drove there to begin with had gigantic fucking balls or a lot of crack
>maybe both
If you're doing rural deliveries we'll spend most of our time on roads like that.

>>510679680
Flash floods are a thing mate. If you left the city once in a while you'd know that.

>>510680342
>>510681003
>>510681085
lol, what are those tacomas?

>>510680195
Not it is not retard, there are weapons made specifically against heavy armor. Guess what? They are all fucking heavy blunt hammer or giant metal balls

>>510681169
The flash floods are well known out there, so you need to figure out something better. Either pave or run rail

>>510680342
They're just polite. I think you're supposed to bow back.

>>510678714 (OP)
Their plan for our future.

>>510678955
Corporations and "authorities" have been lying to people since forever.

41 mpg 1974 5.0l v8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xHQWu2ZzPc

If you want more info find the "post cool things" thread on sci.

>>510678714 (OP)
>there are rules on the road and people cant drive drunk and rodney kang got his head stomped in by zogbots

>>510681348
>>510681085
>>510681003
>>510680342
Those are the ones that had the frame rust.

>>510681247
what do you mean

>>510681590
The model of truck, yes they are

>>510679615
We didn't wear seatbelts back then. That's most of the extra deaths.

>>510681560
>le new are just fine bro
>totally ignores exploding engines and transmissions

shut the fuck you faggot

>>510679680
All Aussies have some abbo admix.

>>510681304
>run rail
>Flash floods
Yea lets see how that works out when you have infastructure that needs to constantly be repaired and maintained at an extremely high cost due to overpriced contractors, remote areas. Compared to a single truck on an unpaved road that still manages to get there and if a flash flood happens you loose a truck rather than a train and associated rail lines.
But hurr durr its too hard for a faggot like you to understand right?
Instead of bitching about aussie rail you should put that effort into bettering our passenger, not cargo, lines in the US considering they are atrocious. You cant get a train from most major cities to DC compared to all major cities of Europe being interconnected.
inb4 "hundreds of years of development" does not excuse to lack of effort at all towards rail in the last 100 years alone.

>>510680342
Temu Transformer.

>>510681257
the best against armor doesn't mean the armor can't protect against them at all.

>>510678962
Yup. And anyone who actually understands physics gets it. Just recently saw a girl casually walking around after having her tiny little Passat obliterated by a massive pickup. She was fucking walking around crying. Back in the day that’s horrific whiplash and no ability to move… at the least.

>>510679388
Deaths by car crashes are massively down though compared to the time when we were driving around these solid body cars.

>>510678714 (OP)
It's fake. The guy backed his Chrysler up to the damaged car after the accident, for a photo opportunity. The media literacy and IQ on this board are so low, I'm not surprised it ended up here.

>>510678962
The government is fucking gay.

>>510678714 (OP)
Fake, unless the guy had an attached trailer behind him.

Cars of that era had a certain bumper configuration. I don't know what it was called; but it was a piece semi-hard plastic, which created the fake image of continuity between the bumper and the rest of the body. Any car hit above a certain speed would have this part either deformed or broken, which it does not appear to be in the original picture.

Meanwhile, you're going to have a hard enough time keeping the rear bumper on a 1970's american car; and would avoid such stressful activities as touching it, looking at it, or breathing on it. By around 1989, most 1970's american cars had pieces of coat hanger holding up the bumpers (at least here in the rust belt)

>>510678714 (OP)
Dumb fucking Jeet doesn't understand crumple zones

>>510679274
GOD DAMNIT NED! YOU GOT UR TRUCK STUCK IN THE MUD AGAIEEEEEEN

>>510680639
Per 100 million miles driven, not 100 million people

>>510680639
That 100 million miles, not people. Also, you have to account for how many more niggers and spics ore on the road killing people. In reality it's like 300* better. Also, the OP picture is because the crash was low speed and the Chrysler Newport weighs more than a mid size truck which is probably double that little shit box. If the car crashed into something solid or a car of equal mass it would be fucked. And the steering column might be in the driver's chest. Same thing happened to me in my old Jeep liberty, which by most retards' standards is a le cucked new crumple zone car - got rear ended by a little shit box in the rain and no perceivable damage.

>>510681799
Yeah cause we paved thousands of miles and also have large airports you monkey memeflag. You think horrid weather conditions don’t happen in the middle of nowhere USA? We figure out this shit and do it well. The prisoners can’t evidently.

>>510681829
it must be some japanese trick

Yall are getting scammed. It was revealed that this picture was staged,by reddit. Yall are so dumb. Lmao,yall.Yall,yall,yall.

>>510678962
Doing away with bumpers so a 5mph fender bender does $5k of damage was a terrible way to implement a crumple zone

>>510681304
>Either pave or run rail
We run the biggest rail on the planet mate, trains some 7km long, road trains almost as big kek, but it's simply not economically viable to build rail and stations to individual properties, remote sites etc, a lot of the time we're grading the trails out as we drive them.

>figure out something better.
Figure out how to make C500's again and quit making faggot globhomo shit that breaks every time an abo bounces off it. If you don't do it I promise you blokes in our kenworth factories will.

>>510681686
all jap pick ups do this

No visible damage to the tail lights or the emblem, even the bumper sticker looks unfazed.

>press x to doubt.

>>510679274

Aww anon you're MY crumple zone too <3

Cops seem to walk out of serious accidents without their cars being completely crumpled up and ruined.

>>510682102
Ironically the companies lobbied against 5mph bumpers in the 90s. I think it's 2.5 now. One of the few things that isn't the result of government pressure. Also pedestrian safety or something? Idk, it's impossible to get a straight clear answer even from industry heads on where some of these changes come from or what they apply to, like bigger trucks still have solid steel bumpers that have saved my ass against a tree or two.

>>510678714 (OP)
The Chrysler spent 52 years grinding to max out its Defense; all attacks now do 1 HP damage.

>>510678714 (OP)
Is there are fucking video? Because that looks fake and gay as fuck.

I don't care if that 1973 chrysler is made of legendary japanese steel folded 1000 times, it'll dent even if it hits a chinesium speeding car.

>>510682736
nipnop bro the fuck is wrong with your shit cars

>>510682791
when u nip the wrong nees

>>510679337
Cars Heavier Now or 1970s
Cars are heavier now than they were in the 1970s. The average new car in 2021 weighed 4,287 pounds, up from 4,060 pounds in the mid-70s.
The average weight of a new car has increased 3% since 1975 even as the weights of sedans, wagons, and small crossovers have decreased.
In 2022, the average new car weighed 4,329 pounds, which represented an increase of about 1,000 pounds over car weights in 1980.
Average weight of new cars: The average new car in 2021 weighed 4,287 pounds, up from 4,060 pounds in the mid-70s.
Increase in weight since 1975: The average weight of a new car has increased 3% since 1975 even as the weights of sedans, wagons, and small crossovers have decreased.
Weight of cars in 1970s: Cars in the 1970s were big and heavy, then they shed some weight through the 1980s before increasing again.

>>510678714 (OP)
Now look at the drivers of each. No crumple zones will fuck you up bad.

>>510682495
>Aww anon you're MY crumple zone too <3
UwU

>>510682791

Italy, I....

>>510682996
I forgot these things are 9001 miles long lmao.

>>510678962
>to be fair
That's why car insurance is so fucking high because new cars are made to disintegrate.

>>510683079
They're the baby ones.

>>510678714 (OP)
Pfffttthahahahaha there is zero, and I mean ZERO chance this photo is legitimate. You would have to be an absolute moron to actually believe that much damage would be done to the white car without even scratching the chrome on the Chrystler. Older cars are heavier sure but they're not magical brick walls impervious to scratches.

Imagine having no good public transport

>>510681887
Yep. The people who think this is genuine need to take a good look at how old cars crumple in crash videos

>>510678714 (OP)
Problem is if there was a person inside the car they'd be the one who gets crumpled. Person in white car would be completely fine.

>>510681887
Thank you for not being a nigger.

>>510678962
Unibody is a crumple zone. Body on frame gets superficial damage and can be rebuilt around the frame. That old Chrysler was body on frame. So is my old Lincoln, and any proper pickup truck, a Chevy Tahoe, etc.

Why do Americans love pickups so much? Maybe this.

>>510680154
>BILLIONS MUST DIE

>>510678962
>the car crumples .
Into the occupants body. Rock beats scissor. I think the guy in the old car here would have a better chance of walking away unscathed.

>>510683831
There are seat belts and air bags now. Although once you have an airbag deployment it becomes difficult to insure the car.

>>510683264
And I thought dealing with the tractor trailers here was bad.

Modern cars are designed to protect occupants.

If that Chrysler gets hit by a vehicle as big, you'll get a big slab of steel through your guts.

>>510683457
I intentionally live in a town that's not directly on the train line.

We don't get annoying urban types in our town. There's nothing to bring them here, nothing here to attract them, and that's how we like it.

>>510678714 (OP)
Straight on rear impacts are relatively easy for a car to handle to handle. In 1998, I was rear-ended on the freeway in stop and go traffic. The front of the late model Chevy mini pickup truck that hit me was bent in so far the engine wouldn't start. My 1992 Honda Civic hatchback had a bent rear license plate and some stuff marks.

>>510679274
Roadtrains are kino as fuck. Wait..
>Roadtrain
>train
Is that why so many kangapoos are coming there?

>>510678714 (OP)
chinese products and their consequences have only been a net negative for the human race.
>>510678962
so forced obsoletion

>>510684185
It probably has a strong ladder frame, and designed to deflect the front structure away from the driver. I've never heard of people being impaled like that.

The reason for crumple bodies is to protect the other guy. And they'd much rather make you buy a new car than just having a body shop replace a panel and you can drive for another 100,000 miles.

>>510682736
>>510682959
On an older car from the 70s, a full sized adult male could stand up on the hood, walk across it, up the windshield across the roof, down the windshield and across the trunk without denying anything. That's how much thicker and stronger they were.

>>510678714 (OP)
Enjoy your whiplash

>>510684200
We got rear ended in an old unibody Toyota Cressida, this was 20+ years ago in California. A drunk illegal drove into us when we were stopped at a traffic light, not very fast but we could not move. Car was totaled, kids in back seat not damaged at all but were crying from the surprise of it. That car did crumple up.

>>510684280
This trend long predates Chinese cars being a consideration, which you can't buy here still.

>>510684407
Denting not denying.

>>510684189
Well, have a nice dying economy

>>510680342
Some things they just didn't test for in Japan

>>510678962
I totaled my toyota 86. I mean the thing was absolutely obliterated. I walked away with only a sprained wrist. So I'd say the crumple zones work

>>510684783
You see that half ton saggin lol, couple of absolute U N I T s there boyo

>>510678714 (OP)
You should see the cars made in the late 40s and 50s when car companies still made tanks for the US army. Things could rip through modern cars like they were made of tin foil.

>>510678714 (OP)
My SVT Raptor got backed into by a ram 1500 at like 25 mph and it didn't even dent it.

>>510682959
>average
Everything is SUV now. A newer compact car vs. a 70's 4-door yacht is not the "average'. Those 60's & 70's sedans were basically 1/2 ton trucks under the body. That body was also very thick steel.

its a lie
http://reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/1m2lad6/chrysler_guy_is_lying/

>>510678714 (OP)
chryslers and lincolns were built like tanks
to bad they suck all the gas unless you somehow have an RB 383/ford small block

>>510678714 (OP)
This looks fake as fuck. Who believes this shit?

>>510678714 (OP)
The car being impacted still affects what's inside.
Even with airbags, the force is still transferred.

>>510678955
no
Chrysler Full size cars had ultra rigid frames
GM X frame full size cars were notoriously flimsy, they were in Ralph naders report

>>510686671
chrysler pulls up and takes pictures of himself in a collision scene he wasnt involved in, zogbots post it all over the internet, even after it was proven fake

>>510679615
half that is literally just wearing your seat belt and less drunk drivers
and those bumpers on trailers so you dont end up like Jayne Mansfield

>>510687340
Drink driving laws weren't enforced until the 1970s, 10 years after they started letting shitloads of beaners into America. Laws did exist in America, but went largely unenforced. They weren't a ticket to extract money out of people via the prison industrial complex.

>>510679162
It's true that modern cars are safer. I had a wreck with a Cadillac a few years ago, highway speed about 65 mph, car slid backward and into solid concrete and was smushed, but I walked away without a bruise or scratch. The car saved my life.
So I'm not saying modern design isn't better from a safety perspective.
What I am saying is that a hardass solid steel car is way cooler from a badass perspective, though. Sort of like, "Better dead than red."
Maybe it's worth driving a more dangerous car if it's cooler.

>>510679274
shutup
dont you have a william friedkin movie with a bad name to die in?

>>510680342
>>510681247
Whistlin Diesel's Hilux handled a lot more than that, because it's a full box frame with solid axles built in the 1980s.
>insert pic here of it towing 30,000lb for a little bit

>>510687463
nah
you still got pulled over for non functioning lights and other things back then
a bunch of other traffic laws and tickets came into place like littering and seatbelt laws

retard doesn't understand physics, those old cars were death traps, look up the stats

>>510678714 (OP)
1970s American cars are shit though

>>510687623
And the reason cars today are heavier than the giant boat cars of the 1960s and 70s is only because of all the (unnecessary) accessories and gadgets loaded into modern cars, that also leave no damn space under the hood, so modern cars drive mechanics nuts compared to working on a nice roomy older car.
Older cars had a lot more steel in them. Even the dashboards were metal before the late 1970s. That's where the weight is on older cars.
On newer cars, the body and frame (or unibody) have nowhere near as much steel, but they are nonetheless heavier due to all the accessories added to them.

>>510687323
>>510686671
typical.
it was obvious from the picture but I'm glad you found the original.

>>510678962
>It's design mandated by law.
And for expensive parts too...

>>510678962
Retards would rather die in a car crash then have their car ruined. Good god

>>510679162
>if they're too strong it's going to kill you
agreed but manufacturers take it to far and now every caress from another car means a new bumper if you want to keep it original.

>>510688594
Drink your milk and it’s fine

>>510687943
Police did their jobs, but did not use the law as a way to punish civilians. They used broken brake lights as a safety reason, not a way to plant drugs in your car or throw the book at you.

>>510688075
This is true. At low speed collisions they are perfectly fine. At high speed collisions the metal becomes soft and cuts you in half. Also they had solid steering columns that love to stab you in the chest in a front on collision.

>>510688075
looks like a meaningful difference.
makes sense, there are a lot of safety features now.

>>510689132
I like how it's going the other way since 2012 when the world ended.

>>510688113
I like them. 1970s Ford Rancheros were pretty cool. Muscle car with a truck bed. Pretty sweet.

>>510679878
>wants to live
you must not have seen much of this world

>>510688113
>1970s American cars are shit though
I want to kill myself in the river of crossovers today. If it weren't for vax dementia I'd swear the cars were making people worse drivers.

>>510678714 (OP)
I had a small car crash recently.
Same situation. My 20 yo diesel car barely scratched,

>>510678962
>the jews mandate crumble zones so that modern cars are totaled with the slightest fender bender
It'd rather die than my car be totaled and be fucked out of money.

To be fair you can do that much damage to the front of a car with your bare hands.
1973 Christler the bumper is a slab of iron.

Entirely plausible that modern car crashes into old car, new car is totaled, old car gets the paint scratches.

>>510678955
It's actually illegal for cars to be more fuel efficient.

>>510691244
It must be bad if you think a 2005 is well built

>>510678714 (OP)
It’s called a crumple zone faggit, the old man’s neck would have absorbed all the impact and rendered him fucked up.

>>510684069
https://youtu.be/wtDyhM_18Yo
not exactly
this video is a good example of how certain areas/parts are meant to be sheared off in a way so that the kinetic energy isn't dumped onto the occupants
i've been in accidents in cars from both makers in this video and walked away with virtually no injuries because their designs worked when impacted
if you got seriously hit driving an old cadillac or w/e like OP's car, you are going slip and fly right off that leather bench and out of that little strap belt, out the window at high speed to kiss some steel or concrete object nearby and become human jam

i wouldn't touch a new bmw or volvo today though, volvo is chinese owned, and bmw caters to the chinese market, both are heavily compromised in every way now

>>510678714 (OP)
Modern cars are obviously designed to collapse in head on collisions, hence the name collapsible structures; sideways impact, though it's wholly different story, and the old tugboat would've definitely had its shit pushed in.
I've seen a vid of lady backing up onto the side of one of these 70s boats of a car and it absolutely plowed into it.

I ram niggermobiles with my truck.

>>510679878
this

*gets severe whiplash*
*neck breaks*
*head slams into dash*
*no airbags because classic car*
*face smashed apart*

>>510678714 (OP)
Meanwhile the retard with the wrecked car needs a new shitbox but was able to step out of his car under his own power to approach the driver of the chrysler to call an ambulance because his neck and lower back are fucked now from the energy transfer and lack of functional headrests. Anyone who hurrdurrs about how much better old steel bumper ladder frame cars hold up in accidents has never idled their pickup into a concrete block at 5mph and had a tweaked neck for a week from the bump. That much is clear.

>>510678962
so I should drive a stiff car so all the energy transfer from my car to his virginmobile?

Land yacht. Love them.

>>510678714 (OP)
>doesn't know that cars now are designed that way specifically because it lessens impact on drives and passengers

okay bro.

>>510692872
Was green carrying a firearm? Was the other party charged with anything?

>>510685205
chrysler m48 patton

>>510693225
>modern cars are designed that way to ncrease profit for insurance and manufacturer jews

>>510693270
>Was green carrying a firearm?
He was a jeet. Now he's a corpse so he probably smells better.

He has the gun in his hand while approaching, and the White guy in the truck slaps it down.

>>510693437
>charges?
Also the man approaching seems to punch the truck with it in hand but he's seemingly not pointing it directly

>>510693582
No charges, killing jeets is allowed.

>>510686671
>reddit figures it out and /pol/ has to copy their homework

>>510681257
and if you knew what you're talking about, you'd know they don't do shit against well forged plate armor.

>>510678962
Sounds like something the Jews made up to get your money

>>510678714 (OP)
old cars are shit in crashes, death traps
https://youtu.be/fPF4fBGNK0U

>>510678962
Wew boy, this is the dumbest shit I read in a while.

>>510678714 (OP)
>CARS ARE SAFER IF THEY CRUMPLE UP AND CRUSH YOU TO DEATH, CHUD, LE SCIENCE SAYS SO

>crying over "MUH CRUMPLE ZONES!!!"
>Not buying a 4 ton ramming beast just to kill crumplecucks
ngmi

>>510691892
a relative of mine crashed over 100mph in the 60s and just had facial fractures from the steering wheel

So let me guess some boomer tried to take credit for a car that his fathers generation built?

While voting for the pile of shit behind it to take American jobs.

Just to virtue signal about the same car later, the utter fucking state of these people.

>>510694347
Check the law, it's literally mandated for a ton of cars. You build a modern car without crumple zones and try to sell it to the public your state and probably feds are going to stomp the shit out of you in court.

>>510683264
Imagining an Indian driving one...

>>510681485
got one in forza horizon

>>510678714 (OP)
A Toyota hit my ZJ in a rear end.

My exhaust pipe put a baseball sized hole in his bumper, and the crazy thing is, my exhaust mount was off before he hit me.

He hit me, and it remounted my exhaust properly.

His car literally fixed damage on my car from the rear end.

I don't remember if that's in the police report, but it was fucking awesome at the time.
I thought I'd have to remount that mother fucker myself.

>>510695845
>imagining an indian
ewwww, brother.

>>510696011
I want it recorded in history.

A Toyota hit my ZJ, and my ZJ had the Borla straight exhaust with the mandrel bend. ($600 exhaust piece)

It was not mounted properly.

The Toyota hit me, and remounted it properly from the impact.

I may be the first mother fucker in history to get rear ended, and go 100% positive on the impact.

>>510694710
your relative is exaggerating how fast they were going.

>>510693179
The same force applied to the other car is also applied to yours. Except if you don't have crumple zones to deform and absorb the energy you're going to turn into marmalade.

>>510678714 (OP)
my nigga, the chinkshit driving against a tree will survive.
that bathtub with a reverse switch will kill yo uthough.
physical phenomenon do not stop existing because your car is nicer (it really is nice)
things in standstill, want to remain still.
things in motion will want to keep their motion until the energy has been exhausted.

so if you crash against a hecking valid car in that thing with full throttle, the energy will not release itself through the chassis, but instead the first thing that can move or will move.

YOU!

my nigga that's a safety feature, not a mark of quality.

>>510678714 (OP)
fake, sedan hit a pickup head on, driver of the old Chevy backed up to take a photo

>>510689672
around when horsepower wars started. Sub 100k, 700+ HP with shit brakes

>>510696220
nope, i have the news article
unless they were lying, but his car went fuckin flying, must've been a wild sight

>>510678714 (OP)
You wouldn't survive if it was the other way round. Chinese are the most superior manufacturer in the world.

>>510678714 (OP)
Back when we had REAL cars.

>>510679419
Don't buy new buy used
Or buy a car you can actually afford so there would be no need for a loan

>>510696651
They are born with the factories.
They are passed the knowledge.
Americans are born with 18 years of advertisement prison for corporate products.
This is how the jews have fucked over the world.

>>510678962
this.
yawn

>>510696518
>a news article from the 1960s proves my relative told them what he told me, which is a loe
what car went over 100 mph in the 60s?

>>510682256
problem ?

>>510696518

forgot pic. this was the fastest car of the decade. 108 lmfao

>>510682256

not the hilux, ohhh no not the hilux.

>>510679680
can confirm they're idiots

>>510680639
dunning-kruger

>>510678962
people in an old 70s Boat car dont feel much of the impact. often walking away. its a jar, maybe some neck discomfort.
those things were tanks

Why are europeans so afraid of cars?
Does the sudden abundance of options scare you?

>>510698267
>abundance of options
Your shithole bans efficient small cars so your corporations can sell tanks

its because of steel bumpers
my first car from the 90's had steel bumpers
2 cars rear ended it and both got totalled and my car had 0 scratches

>>510694710
>>510696518
>>510697643
why do yankee faggots do this? make a,claim, double down, get proven full of shit, and then ignore you? why are they so scummy?

Total Tailgater Death

TTD

>>510696518
>must've been a wild sight
it's the sound, you don't see much, your vision just blurs as you spin getting hit that fast

you'll never forget how much plastic are in our cars now after you hear it all crunch instantly

>>510698252
Ever heard of the Mansfield bar on trucks

>>510679337
No, the reason the Chrysler has zero damage is because it wasn't hit at all and was simply backed up to the wreck so someone could take those photos and tell that lie to score social media (You)s.

>>510698407

yea, his uncle crashed at over 100mph in the 60s and you believe it.

>>510687141
that was probably an offset collision or it hit a power pole

>>510680154
Shalom

>it's a "boomers circlejerk over something old" thread
>it's based on a lie
I hate you niggers so much

>>510678714 (OP)
based gasoline slurper

>>510679799
>>510679850
are you the older tranny with big tits?

>>510698629
>oh no, people are talking amongst themselves and its getting off topic
reddit is better for you, bro. not even joking.

>>510688628
That's not because of crumple zones, its because bumpers and other exterior trim items are all made of plastic now.

>>510698541
>hit a power pole
you can see the broken tree next to it, not that it makes much difference. plus, that was going at least 40mph imo.

>>510698629
Typical boomer behavior

>drive 30yo rodeo
>get rear ended by a great wall chink truck
>front of his car is caved in, requires tow
> ol Bessie is perfectly fine, small scratch on the tailgate

Fuck your crumple zones nigger, I've got more steel in my driver's door than most new shit has in its entirety. Fucken cuck cars made by chinks and driven by poofters.

>>510699233
low iq, the post.

>>510699283
Shouldnt you be deepthroating a baguette you faguette? I'm glad France is being overrun with niggers.

>>510699488
>shouldnt you be deepthroating a baguette
already had breakfast. im surprised to hear any aussie happy about niggers, you like them much? do you watch much basketball n that?

>>510678714 (OP)
I got a 1974 Plymouth Satellite in the 1990s that had been sitting damn near mint in a relatives garage for over 15 years. Drove it until the early 00's. I got rear-ended in it twice. Both times I had ZERO damage. Not even a scuff mark. Both times "crumple zone" cars were all crumpled. That car had no air conditioning and that sucked in the summer but otherwise it was a fantastic car. If you've never used old school power steering it's so light you can turn that big steel land yacht with your pinky finger. Color was like pic related but mine was a factory "custom" so the trim package was different.

>>510678714 (OP)
On the list of problems devastating white people and the West, "Chink shit" barely even registers.

At this point, I want everyone and everything out of white societies and countries. Blacks and browns are bio weapons used by jews and their secular partners (many of which in foreign nations) to make us weak, so they can dominate.

The only people I would tolerate are some east Asians (e.g. Chinese, Japense, Korean, Vietnamese etc) and some white latinos. Everyone else needs to go.

And China? At least they're run by Chinese, for sure. We shouldn't even be beefing with them. They're our friends. The only reason we are beefing is because Jews. If we got together, we'd all win.

Why are our cars bad? Jews via niggers. They drive up prices, drive up taxes, drive up housing prices, destroy education and public health, and divert funding from R&D and infrastructure to themselves (a black hole, sometimes literally). Among other downstream effects, it makes it impossible for American companies to compete with companies in countries that don't have to deal with those crippling issues.

That's why the American economy and society are at a huge disadvantage. Not because there's fewer people, or we're somehow worse. It's because China doesn't have niggers building their stuff, and Jews and niggers making their policies.

Globalization is practically all because of Niggers. Because of Jews, and their favorite weapon--niggers--we're not allowed to speak against multiculturalism and constantly need to "share" yada yada yada. And yet simultaneously, can't be Christian, and actually try to help others.

If we keep our eye on the ball, and get as many out of white nations as possible, and take our countries back, we wouldn't fear some Chinese imports anymore. We'd be strong and good again. And probably, realize that China is fine.

TL;DR - as always, the problem is the Jews and their niggers more than anything. Even shitty cars.

>>510679419
so don’t wreck your car, retard

>>510678714 (OP)
yea it's called crumple zones so the energy of the wreck doesn't mangle your body.

>>510693270
Aye blaster in the hand he punched the door with, he brandished it at the other driver and was killed

>>51069960
>looks at the mural under the Eiffel tower
Seems you cunts love niggers and their antics even more than the seppos. I'm sure if you dig deep enough the etymology of the word cuck somehow circles back to the French.

There is not a nation on this planet that takes the French seriously.

>>510698629
No lies in this thread. When I was a kid we owned a 90s Dodge Caravan. It got hit parked outside our house by some stupid girl driving an old Doge Ram going 60 in a 35. The van folded like an accordion. Anyone in the back seat would've died instantly, anyone in the middle seats 50/50, definitely multiple broken bones if they lived, front seat would've been ok. The old Ram just had some fender damage on the front passenger side, they were able to easily drive off later.

Now the full truth is somewhere in the middle, because the real answer is "it depends" on the type of accident. In my example and OP's example there is only 1 moving car, and a parked car. In both cases the crumple zone of the modern car is also reducing the force of impact to the old car. Thats why the old cars come out barely damaged, but the new car looks totaled.

If Old and New crashed head on, the Old car would still take considerable damage because of the massive force multiplier, even so you'd be more likely to survive in the Old car than the New car.

However, if it were two Old cars colliding with each other, it would result in massive damage. A head on collision would likely mean everyone dies, even people in the back seat.

Here's a video of some 1960s crash tests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siT-SIfOnQw

So as an individual, go get an old boat and be invincible. But for the sake of society the crumple zones are safer.

>>510681485
Someone add the captions

>>510700080
So the chrysler owner got mangled?

>>510700590

Possibly yes. Head over to YouTube and look up the crash tests. Older cars are basically death traps.

>>510700467

>if only you knew

>>510678714 (OP)
Yeah it was thick solid steel and gets 9mpg. Maybe when EVs are viable we can go back to solid cars again and play bumper cars on the road. Even then the weight will affect the range and handling. Everything today is plastic and thin aluminum, designed to need expensive repair and a new paint job if you so much as tap something. They should design cars like bumper cars so I can bash all shitskin bad drivers around me.

If you buy anything made after 2010, it's literally built to break. That's how they managed to bring China up to par. It's how their brought the Third World into your neighbourhoods; they could not have done it any other way.

>t. tradie

>>510678714 (OP)
pol incel freaks caught lying again

>>510701297
This goes for everything. My 60yo house is built better than the rollform covered with plastic facades shit they pump out now, goes to electronics, cars, white goods, tools etc and fuck if you can get parts outside cannibalising a donor unit for most shit.

>>510697643
>>510698356
>>510698527
i have the article... going to dbl check now
why act like a malding asshole?

>>510700762
>Older cars are basically death traps.
This is completely true, as they weren't designed to crash. They were strong and stiff overall but had weak points that would collapse, like the roof pillars. Without crumple zones, the steering wheel would be like a cannonball fired at you if you hit something at 30mph. And you would hit it because the seat belt didn't have a shoulder strap.

there was one time in history when aluminum beat steel

>>510686671
kek thats a good one

>>510702028
and without a headrest your neck would be subject to mad whiplash. but who cares, only faggot boomers and stupid zesty niggers drive these shitboxes

>>510698527
yep, the article says they reached 100mph but obviously they probably aren't exactly accurate to the exact speed of the crash
that said, they traveled at high speeds, the front end is completely destroyed, passenger broke his back

>>510681861
If she drove an old car she would have broken her neck. Sad how many americans in this thread are more mad that their products gets destroyed in a crash instead of glad that they survive.

>>510702356
The dead ones can't post.

>>510679337
>modern cars have to be lower mass to meet fuel efficiency requirements.
>checks weights of moden cars

Bullshit, modern cars as heavy or heavier than old.

>>510679615
who says this has anything to do with crumple zone, and not just ABS alone ?
ABS alone stops SO many accidents or just make unavoidable collisions MUCH less serious by effectively reducing vehicle speed before collision, in opposition with slamming brakes and sliding full-speed without ABS
Also airbags
THere is no scientific way to estimate IF and HOW MUCH are crumple zones doing anything

>>510698356
you're wrong
what now?
time to pick another stupid thing to get mad over

>>510681485
Wrong

>>510679419
Other people are being a cunt, but you're right. Buying most new cars is retarded though. Boomers are dying off and you can get or restore a classic on the cheap. Have to be good with your hands for the latter, though.

Me personally, I'm more of a gun guy. I don't like working on cars, but I'll do it.

>>510684280
>so forced obsoletion
Yeah if you consider speedy collisions with hard objects one of the primary functions of your vehicle.

>>510702728
>THere is no scientific way to estimate IF and HOW MUCH are crumple zones doing anything
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_NCAP

>>510678714 (OP)
>muh 5ton amerishit car stronk
lmao found the retard

>>510679162
eu 5 rated have really strong anti roll cage protection built in , the rest of the car will be toast though in a major mashup, also keeps the weight down for fuel economy, had a GTC 17 turbo deisel with a dual clutch, ran like a sports car would have another

>>510681502

Thats quite something alright, just watched the whole video.

>>510678962
more like cuck zone lmao

>>510699488
and im glad your irrelevant shithole found it easy enough to throw you into camps. im glad you will be a chink and jeet colony before 2050 you worthless poor loser

>>510700230
replace France with australia and you're spot on, irrelevant cuck island

>>510679615
Cars are TOO safe now, people drive like they have a second chance. There needs to be some risk to driving like an asshole.

>Make cars more expensive to fix
>call it safety
Insurance is a racket

>>510678962
Mechanic here. Cars are designed to do as much damage as possible in a crash to maximise repair costs or write it off to sell a new car. Car manufacturers dont give two shits about if your safe or not

>>510679615
Yeah, old cars were death traps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPF4fBGNK0U

>>510678962
>To be fair, the Law mandates crumble zones in modern cars
to be fair you're completely retarded. you're un ironically replying to literally a pic that shows a car with your silly crumple zones and one without.

>>510678714 (OP)
the old car was designed after tank warfare, and the modern car was designed in the internet age. think, just think.

>>510678714 (OP)
Now let’s see the x-ray of his spine.

>>510678714 (OP)
modern cars are designed to crumble like an accordion. It absorbs force from the impact. The 73 may be physically in better shape but the destroyed car is safer

>>510678714 (OP)
Imagine the concussion.

>>510684783
>things you can't do in first world countries, for 500, Ahmed.

>>510678714 (OP)
Yeah and all the force gets absorbed by the passenger, idiot.

>>510678714 (OP)
Her rear looks like this so my spine can look like this:

>>510678962
It's basic physics so I'm not surprised that most Americans are outraged and confused about crumple zones. Fucking retards.

>>510693715
Dude approached the white pickup with a gun in his right hand, switched it to his left hand to free his right hand to break open the driver's window.

The driver pulled his own guy and shot him through the window three times, stayed in the car, got questioned.

Ultimately ruled a self-defense.

https://fox59.com/indiana-news/delphi-trial-eclipse-caitlin-clark-fox59-cbs4s-top-stories-of-2024/

>>510678962
thats too much for a muttbrain

>>510679419
Getting a loan to buy a vehicle sound incredibly retarded. Americans never stop to amaze.

>>510702728
>THere is no scientific way to estimate IF and HOW MUCH are crumple zones doing anything
Volvo has been studying exactly this for 50 years retard
You're right about ABS though

>>510678714 (OP)

They should just let people drive what they like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8QCHjVBU8w

>>510678714 (OP)
I love old cars and have a Plymouth of the 60's but there are advantages to crumple zones. Look up vintage car wrecks. People used to get gruesome injuries from low speed collisions. With nothing to absorb the energy, your face would go into the windshield (which was really close), your ribs would crack on steering wheel (or you'd be harpooned of the center of the wheel protuded) and your knees would get penetrated by knobs and the ignition key.
Of course the have little damage and van be fixed cheaply but what's the point when you're crippled.

>>510679337
Light trucks have increased in weight by half a ton since the 70s on average, cars being fuel efficient is mostly a consumer choice since people who buy cars tend to like spending less on gas.

>>510708663
This shit has gotten here too. Some car salesmen won't sell you a car if you don't make a financing plan. Well of course you can pay off the loan immediately with only small fees but still.

>>510708663
Americans feel entitled to have a McMansion in the suburbs, two brand new trucks, and a swimming pool from a job that doesn't require a university degree. Otherwise they feel slighted and will vote for a pedophile retard to destroy the entire western world.

>>510678714 (OP)
I miss having one of those tug boats. They just seemed to float over shitty roads and you could easily sleep 2 in the back seat, comfy. I couldn't imagine trying to park one afterso long

>>510679419
listen to this faggot when he says buy what you can afford. my housemate bought a $40,000 AUD Subaru in 2024 on finance and after balloon payment in 2029 when term ends she will have paid nearly $85,000AUD because she insisted she needed a brand new car. i fucking hate women so much bros they are like children when it comes to responsible decision making

>>510680154
yes, all the safety regulations and medical breakthroughs do is enable the population to grow without the natural checks and balances that otherwise would have culled them due to retardation/negligence.
we should go back to town horse doctors and remove the safety labels from everything.
let darwin sort us out.

>>510698511
booo party pooper

>>510678962
>It's design mandated by law
Sorry I'm just not going to wreck my car just because your gay law says that

>>510678714 (OP)
>his car looks like that so my car can look like this

must be why hood ornament get jacked in this shithole

>>510678962
this is the only same thing about the plastic cars because if you got crushed in that cadillac you would be getting sawed out and your limbs have been removed
they could still make the bodies look better

>>510684783
It that asshole hits a shed retread, that fat bitch is gonna lose her feet before diabeetus does it.

>>510678714 (OP)
the crumple zone absorbs the energy of the impact instead of your body absorbing the energy of the impact

>>510697643
That isn't a 69 yenko pictured.

>>510709134
Everyone should.
Fuck the fucking kikes and their profits.
You're pretending your slavery is fucking moral.
You're a god damned moron.

High trust homogenous white societies were gold. Young flags will never experience that golden age. This world is alien in comparison to what was

>>510713253
(((crumple zone)))

>>510713612
I was astounded in the 90s watching the kids grow up as relative prisoners.
What I experienced then is nothing compared to what's happening now.
The current generations will never know what life can be, or what it once was. They'll defend the profits of the people fucking them over and ridicule others for not participating in their own slavery, just like they do here.

>>510686436
A lot of them were 1/2 ton frames. A lot of guys will by 70s 4 doors to swap the body onto 90s 1/2 frames. I turned a 77 Lincoln 4 wheel drive that way.

>>510678962
>So instead of the impact engergy being transmitted to the occupants the car crumples .
mfw

>>510679419
What's cheaper? Replacing your car through car insurance, or the hospital bills that would result from your car being undamaged but your body being mangled or broken in the wreck instead?
Sheet metal is a lot cheaper to mend or replace than bones or muscles.

>>510678714 (OP)
holy shit pol is slow now, how is this thread still up

>>510715186
What a fucking sales pitch. Exactly how jewish are you?
You know it doesn't have to be one or the other, right? It's merely the paradigm that produces the most (((profit.)))

>>510678714 (OP)
Steel and plastic, when of similar thickness and driven into each other while attached to dissimilar weights giving steel the advantage, will result in far more damage being done to the plastic than the steel. Who would have thunk it?

>>510679337
You're an idiot. Explain hellcats retard.

>>510678714 (OP)
I'd take back the chance of my being killed/injured, and you being killed and your family being killed just to have the kino car designs back. Safety isn't always worth it if it makes everything look gay and shitty.

>>510684069
Go and look at yearly fatality road deaths. They have basically stayed exactly the same (and even slightly declined) since the 70s and 80s despite a massive increase in population and cars on the road

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year

Those old cars are death traps

>>510715548
>You know it doesn't have to be one or the other, right?
You can't have both. A completely rigid structure won't provide any shock absorption in a collision. It would be like putting eggs inside a metal lunch box and expecting them to survive a 2-foot fall onto a concrete floor.
Air bag can reduce the resulting damage to the meat inside only so much. The car itself has to help reduce the maximum g-load the occupants experience.
There's a growing problem with road safety now in that modern vehicles are returning to the weight averages of older vehicles, and in some cases exceeding them. Especially EVs. And the added weight means that they not only are blowing through road barriers that were designed to handle lower averages and higher centers of mass, but crashes between these heavier vehicles and lighter modern vehicles are adding imbalance impact dynamics that are outside of the standard testing practices for crash safety. Ther vehicles with lower centers of mass are launching their opposing vehicles upward more often with strange rotational energy.

>>510679162
The stats like you're quoting are heavily undermined by the reality that those older cars had only lap belts with no general social or legal requirements to use em.
Add a shoulder strap + airbag and add the modern understanding that seatbelts do save lives and I would bet those stats would change quite a bit.
Yes the physics of dispersing energy, etc etc are real and work, but in so many cases outside of speeds greater than 60mph, people died in fender benders because your face smashing into the steering wheel at 35mph is still able to kill you, where a should belt and an air bag will go a long way at those speeds.
And freeways, everyone seems to die no matter if the car is new or old, cuz the speeds are just too catastrophic for the human body.

>>510679878
I think I'll prefer doing that in the ABS plastic crumple suit instead of a suit of full plate - which however will also be quite protective.

>>510679337
Easy, just revoke street legality for old cars, problem solved.

>>510715966
>You can't have both.
Open your fucking mind up a little and stop defending the profiteers that steal your life's work while you smile and defend them for it.
100% rigid - danger.
Massive crumple zones to increase costs of repairs so that the insurance industry keeps money flowing and so does the auto industry - 100% unnecessary. It's exactly as unnecessary as Chrysler's favorite tricks of making proprietary shit so weird that no one makes new ones for 20 years after they stop producing parts.
No one is allowed to have anything that lasts, or they won't work their lives away to afford a new one when it breaks or gets destroyed by a teenager on her cell phone.
Crumple zones don't have to destroy the car, but they are often engineered to do exactly that.
Cars DO NOT have to be throw-away under the guise of safety. Longevity is avoided at all costs intentionally. Destruction is engineered into cars specifically to maximize damage, and they tell you they do it to keep you safe. Does it? Yes, but it can be built for both easy/cheap repairs AND safety if they wanted to. They simply don't. The auto and insurance industries both thank you heartily for your shilling, though.

>>510716620
>problem solved
problem created for the drivers.
Every new rule that intentionally defeats long-term reliability means it's coming out of your bank account. Stop volunteering for slavery. Fuck.