Death to all governments. Death to the empires that suppress us death to the emperor parasites who steal from us, death to police which enforces those laws and goes against the people they swore to protect. Serbia is the center of all I'm talking about, corrupt leaders, police beating people who want freedom, rich pricks who only got there because of they're connections with party members. It was never better and it will never better. After Tito's death nothing was good, he may have been a communist dictator but he kept the country together.
Death to empires freedom to the people.

>>510708445 (OP)
Agreed, death to all governments

death to jews

>>510708445 (OP)
What kind of fucking idiot portrays Gavrilo Princip as anarchist? He was brainwashed Serbian monarchist extremist. That Italian who killed empress Sissy was an actual anarchist.

>>510708743
Agreed. Not all jews but a lot of them embody the exact things I hate. Death to Israel.

>>510708897
He was a mix of fucking everything. But an anti imperialist he was for sure so still applies. Anarchist monarchist whatever he was I have great respect and admiration towards that man.

>>510709187
Anti-imperialist? Yeah, anti-Austrian and pro-Serbian imperialist.

>>510709565
It's because of him that croats bosnians and slovenes had any freedom and weren't under the Habsburg rule and sucking Franz Joe dick

>>510708445 (OP)
death to medjeds!

>>510709693
>weren't under the Habsburg rule

like it was bad thing to be

>>510711275
Ye the Habsburgs were lesser of 2 evils. That's what 500 years of Turk occupation does to you. But I agree Habsburg rule wasn't that bad but still it was an empire and imperialism is bad, but it was the least evil one

>>510708445 (OP)
I agree with your sentiment. But lately I think that anarchism is better served with a positivist approach, of promoting a different way of living as its primary and focusing on how the existing system is the enemy of that better way of living. Rather than focusing on civil unrest as the main point. Even if we’re all a las barricadas, we’re not going to win. Winning is not something done with molotovs, it’s not even something done with bullets. It’s done by changing the nature of people’s relationship with power. You defeat the state by getting a relevant supermajority to not give a shit about its power, at which point it ceases to have power. Which requires a project of informing the imagination, of showing people that there’s a way of doing things that isn’t this way of doing things, and it’s better.

Thanks for reading my blog. Death to capitalism.

>>510712125
>Death to capitalism.
what is alternative? (no communism is not!)

>>510712408
Yes it is. May not be perfect but is better then capitalism. Under Tito everyone lived comertably you didn't have to worry about jobs being unemployed was impossable,homlessness basicallly didn't exist. As I said it's not perfect,no system is,but it's better then whatever we have now.

>>510712645
>Under Tito

not true! there was no jobs for non communists (they have to go to germany for work), everyone got mortage to build home or to buy commie block apartment, but when foreign creditors asked money back yugoslavia collapsed to civil war and anarhy...
and commies (members of kpj) were worst people imaginable (and they all are in church now)...

FUCK THEM!

>>510713188
Most of what you're talking about is the later years. My grandfather was the secretery of the communist party in Bečej and trust me he stuck to his beliefs. He's still a commie still stands against fashism against oppression he was the first to start going to the protests against Vučić. Also the no jobs for non commies is just streight up not true. Maybe worse jobs that I admit is not good but my grandparents from my dad's side we're both not in the party and both of them had a job in fadim and a 2 story house with a big garden. Tell me one other time period where we lived comfterbly.

>>510712408
"true" communism isn't a viable alternative, not on any principled grounds but just because I don't think it's likely. I think most anarchist thinkers have circled around the idea of what a free society would actually look like, which is something like

>individuals engaged in self-directed production, either for their own consumption or for small scale trade
>mutual, small-to-medium sized associations of people who cooperate via consensus or other broadly democratic methods to achieve common goals and also operate within that same space
>a dense interconnected network of association between individuals and these small groups based on the principle of secession that is used to temporarily achieve larger-form goals, typically with a lot of inconvenient bickering and animosity that prevents the organizations from becoming stable long-term bureaucracies

"communism" will probably exist in some sense as a fringe end of the spectrum, as would pure "individualism", but I think most people would find different aspects of their lives better served by some broad range of applications of those principles. I think most of us want communism to provide us with health insurance but want autonomy over our own homes. I think within the economic framework, democratic cooperatives would be preferable, but once they get big enough to become unwieldy, market forces should take over to act as a consensus-finding mechanism (because you can't get 20,000 people in a room together and find consensus)

I think in large part the state will be replaced with multiple overlapping "competing"/co-existing organizations that do basically what the state does, and people will move among them based on personal circumstance. The notional idea of a government will not really go away, it will just stop being a geographic monopoly and start being mutual services.

>>510713542
I agree with you. Should I maybe write what I think a perfect sociaty looks like because I don't have one exact ideology I can point towards and say "That's exactly what I believe in" It's a mix of everything

>>510708445 (OP)
start with your government then.
oh right, you won't do shit, because you're just cattle russian cum guzzler nigger.

>>510713453
I hated commies then and I hate them now, and yes my grandfather was partisan to, but for freedom not for communism. And I hope all communist (and fucking shlosser from kumrovec) burn in hell for what they did to vojvodina!

>>510708445 (OP)
this gypsy chud started two world wars
>billions must die
kek

>>510713453
>my folks were communist
>we had two story house

it's all so tiresome (we lived in oldest house in town - it is museum now, and father went to canada to earn money to build new house, after govt. took from us old one)

FUCK COMMUNISTS!

>>510713910
the fuck did they do to Vojvodina? All of SFRJ relied on us because we we're basically the only ones with food.

>>510713809
I think that's true of most anarchist thinkers. I also think a lot of words have been wasted bickering over the difference between this little subset of anarchist thought and that little subset of anarchist thought. And that's because
>the reactionaries want to blur the concept of capitalism in order to justify the existing economic order, so it's very important to them that any concept of free exchange be redefined as an implicit endorsement of the modern economy
>the Marxists want you to value anything that's pro-worker over anything that's anti-worker no matter the cost, so your revolutionary spirit can be coopted to support the program of the soviet state

I wave the black flag, I don't slash my colors. I've seen smart shit and stupid shit from both sides of the anarchist "aisle" and I think it's just a failure of imagination. The average an"cap" would take a local credit union over the world's most profitable deregulated bank, and the average libsoc would take a farmer's market over bread lines. They both know this, they both know what freedom looks like, but they're pissed off at each other because each one thinks the other one is secretly an agent of the old guard who would not hesitate to reconstitute the entire power structure to protect their particular vision of the future.

It's retarded and I hate it.

>>510714051
The ones that we're not communists had a two story house. My mothers side were commies while my dad's we're not, they we're actually kids of a russian noble who came to Serbia after the october revolution. So they had the worst fucking possible thing. While my other grandfather was the grandson of a SS officer and he became the secretery if the KPJ

>>510714125
>the fuck did they do to Vojvodina?
they put us under serbian rule, cleansed 500.000 hard working industrious germans and put 500.000 goat fuckers in their homes...... and look at us now

>>510714190
Lmao I got fucking Bakunin in my thread
kek

>>510708445 (OP)
Your ideology is the most useful tool of the system which is why they not only keep you around but literally protect and prop you up.

You are the element which creates temporal change and transitions of power. You are the International Revolutionary Movement personified. You are the tool of the LITERAL Illuminati.

Remember That.

>>510708445 (OP)
>anti government
>is a communist
Kek

>>510714407
The germans we're fucking nazis. Those we're the early days,they we're doing whatever they could to save the country from poverty.

>>510713909
I hate the Serbian government as much as you. Fuck Vučić

>>510714283
>russian noble who came to Serbia after the october revolution had two story house

not a single white who came after they lost in russia was poor, we had many in our town

>>510714468
I'm against the government by the bourgeoisie. I want a government of the people.

>>510714675
Trust me that money dried up,the guy came in 1919 or so and they built that house in 1980,I'm pretty sure they didn't have that money anymore

>>510714520
>The germans we're fucking nazis.
not all germans were nazis! like not all serbs are genocidal maniacs
I have met partisan german in germany, he left sr.mitrovica when his kids were bullied in school, he spoke serbian fluently, I was at dinner at his home

>>510714845
That's the issue of the kids in his school. But see he didn't leave because he was kicked out it was because of people in the country. The germans they kicked out we're nazis and these kids we're just fucking retarded.

>>510714414
Bakunin was a smart dude. But so was Benjamin Tucker. So was Kropotkin, come it to that. But they were all also wrong about a ton of stuff (IMO, Tucker the least of the bunch). None of it matters to me because they all wrote in the late 1800s, it's been over a hundred years since then. We have the benefit of experience, evidence, and new technology that can and should radically reshape our conception of how an anarchist society ought to function ANYWAY.

What would any of these people had thought if they had been able to envision a society where
>everyone walks around with a device in their pocket that can communicate at light-speed with every other device in everyone else's pocket using a decentralized network, allowing all human knowledge and free communication to be immediate and instantaneous
>the average person would have the ability to discuss and vote on matters anywhere in real-time without having to undertake any inconvenience of travel
>the means of individual production had become so compact and cheap to produce that they could fit in the average garage, and it was the domination of information rights that was central to most institutional economic power
>An anonymous motherfucker had created a form of currency based on cryptography that required no central issuer and that no bank could control.

And where we had seen
>centralized workers states become totalitarian dictatorships unerringly and without fail every single time
>some of the most relevant products/services of our time being free and open source collaborations of unpaid volunteers
>An entire "gig economy" pop up that was entirely free of wage labor and based on self-employment but still suffered from tremendous rent extraction by capitalists who provided the market making service
>Most private ownership of most companies held by workers themselves, albeit indirectly, in the form of small-scale stock holdings through retirement plans and the like

>>510715028
>germans they kicked out we're nazis
they kicked out 99% germans from vojvodina (every single one who wasn't commie/partisan or married to non german)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danube_Swabians

>>510715258
Put yourself in that time period. So Germany just did a genocide of half of Europe including your country and there's a bunch of them in your country. They would either get mocked by they're neigbors or even worse. So it was better for everyone. Not compleatly supporting it in retrospect but in the moment it seemed like the best choice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banat_Swabians
>There are 1,985 Germans (or Danube Swabians and Banat Swabians) in Vojvodina or just 0.1% of the population. The German population was far more numerous in the past (about 350,000 before World War II). More than 250,000 left in the aftermath of World War II when the Yugoslav Communist government took reprisals on ethnic Germans with their citizenship revoked and their belongings and houses nationalized and taken from them. Between 1944 and 1946, a prison camp system was established for Yugoslav citizens of German origin, usually in settlements where they lived.
>Before the World War II, Germans were majority in the municipalities of Odžaci (68.9%), Vrbas (61.1%), and Apatin (60.3%).

>>510715529
next town to mine was german town, I asked old people how germans were back then, not a single one said germans were bad to them!
and that for no reason fucking tito cleansed them out of country (first they killed as much as he could in concentration camps)

>>510716442
after that he (tito) brought illiterate bosnian goat fuckers to their homes and changed ethnic composition of vojvodina for good
now imagine vojvodina if we have 1/3 german population instead of goat fuckers!

>>510716442
Not defending that desision at all just saying that in that moment it seemed like the best idea.

>>510716693
Ok ok I get it you hate bosnians and love germans. Fucking kroutlover.

>>510709187
The worst part about anarchy is the fact that all anarchist “intellectuals” are absolute fucking idiots. It’s a very good system but as soon as you start to define it, it pretty much turns into communism with a ton of because I-said-so, because when you define anarchy you start to realize you aren’t guaranteed any stability or security at all because as an ideology it doesn’t go beyond basic survival, and then when you try to explain why you just dig one hole after another.

>>510708445 (OP)
>Fuck government I want freedom.
>Also we need communist dictators back.

>>510716836
I'll take german over fucking bosnian any time (as every vojvodinian), our ancestors oiled train tracks with backon to train not stopping here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jF2mS-kYb4

>>510717033
fuck youtube kikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlwbfEMRBmg

>>510716984
Anarchism is based on the idea that "laws" supercede people to such an extent that even those who enforce the laws must be bound by them. The principle triumphs over all. The idea that anarchism is about "abolish the rules and let the chips fall where they may" is nonsense. Anarchism is a set of principles about the way people ought to treat other people, and following those principles through to their conclusions means that an organized force of violence is illegitimate

>but who will enforce the rules if there's no state to enforce them
That's your failure of imagination talking. During the American revolution, they asked what stopped a President from declaring himself King For Life. It certainly happens in other countries which have the concept of elected officials foisted upon them externally. Today in America we talk about the idea of rigging elections; that the President would break the law in order to secure votes or pretend he had secured votes. But nobody ever considers a totally voteless coup a possibility, even though the President is ostensibly commander-in-chief of the military. The reason for this is that the legitimacy of power is derived from the electoral process, a President has to convince people he "won the game" or his power doesn't exist.

So it's the same in anarchist society. Society is ready for anarchism when the broad mass of the public does not recognize the legitimacy of relationships of power and coercion. The "safeguard" against power relationships is that society as a whole considers them unjust and considers their destruction to be justice, in the same way (American, or Canadian, anyway) society would consider a "President For Life" unjust and would consider his arrest to be justice.

>>510717024
Never said we need dictators. We need a parlament of avrage people,the people know what's best for they're country.

>>510717033
Nah,fuck germans

>>510717408
That’s fucking gay, just more freedom and justice slop for peasants to lap up just like communism. I told you these people were mental midgets. I’m an anarchist for the aesthetics but I’m actually a nihilist.

>>510717033 VOJVODINIAN
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baby has literally no identity
sad

>>510718151
That's dumb. Human morality is a real thing. It's not an artifice. You are biologically preprogrammed to have certain values as a survival mechanism. The idea that you would prefer not to cooperate with the people around you for your mutual benefit is bullshit. Egoism is bullshit. The legitimacy of the state is derived from its tendency to claim to uphold the values that the mass of the public already share. Anarchism is just the observation that the people who are supposed to uphold our values are not themselves bound by them, that they use their position of authority to excuse themselves from the responsibility they claim to enforce on our behalf, and that that isn't acceptable.

If you were to actually somehow Thanos snap the state tomorrow, you would not see Mad Max. Because people don't want to live in Mad Max. Why would people produce Mad Max if they don't want it? There would be problems, and people would struggle for a while trying to figure out how to satisfy the socially necessary functions that were once monopolized by the state, but they would do what people do. They would talk it out, try different things, and cooperate to help each other, because our instinct for doing that is why we control this fucking planet.

>>510718873
By Thanos do you meant David Hume? And Mad Max is...?

>>510717904
>We need a parlament of avrage people,the people know what's best for they're country.
We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week. But all the decisions of that officer are ratified in a special bi-weekly committee, by a simple majority in the case of internal affairs, but by a 2/3rds majority in the case of more major issues.

>>510719075
>And Mad Max is...?
The War Of All Against All. It's a complete fucking myth and it never pans out in practice. Hobbes is a retard. "Pure abstract thought about rational behavior" is not how you predict human behavior, you observe humans and how they interact and study what you fucking see. Anthropology and even some isolated modern societies give us a glimpse into what human self organization looks like at the level of total social order, plus even within a nominally state system we can see what human self organization looks like at the margins where the state has limited or nonexistent impact.

What we see is always the same, it's a spirit of helpful cooperation and reciprocity mixed with a vicious desire to punish those who abuse good will or take advantage.

fuck off serbshit, you aint fooling anyone