Should women dump their boyfriends if they don't propose after two years?

>>510714841 (OP)
Why can't they propose?
Stupid bint.

For two years and no marriage? Are you trying to make her a spinster?

>>510714841 (OP)
Women shouldn't have premarital sex. As long as they continue to do so, men have no incentive to marry her.

>>510714841 (OP)
>1 year later
>WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD MEN GONE AND WHERE ARE ALL THE GODS

>>510714841 (OP)
Very very exceedingly rare case where I think the hole is right. IF- and thats a huge if- IF you actually manage to snag one worth putting babies in you should wife her up and do it fairly quickly. Not only is fucking around "dating" retarded and jewish, but women instinctively know they're on a biological doom clock and will almost certainly run amok, cheat and move on if you screw around stagnating for years on end. It worked pretty well for me.

>>510714841 (OP)
Imagine looking like this

Absolutely, the trad swings both ways. If you're a real tradman you should AT THE VERY LEAST have started a stable career and have a deposit for a small starter home. Do not even contemplate dating without the prospect of marriage.

Can't do that? Then no graduation to real respected man (family, career, community standing) for you.

>>510714841 (OP)
It depends on the age of the female and the number of sexual partners she's had. If she's an 18 year old virgin, then she gets a ring in six months. If she is a 25 year old with multiple partners, you should wait a few years, more than two. Anything over thirty and you should just buy her a house.

And vice versa. Life's too short wasting time on someone that's not marriage material.

Just don't fall into the trap of "it's been two years, might as well tie the fucking knot."

>>510715150
Zorg looking bitch

>>510715242
What does money have to do with marriage or having kids? Just make it work, money is secondary.

>>510714841 (OP)
It takes many years for the true woman to be revealed. She can deceive and maintain it for a long time, until the man is locked in.
A man essentially needs to wait for this to end to understand the true nature of the woman he is dealing with.

>>510715150
>>510715266
Bro that forehead is bigger every time I see this bitch posted. Jowels are progressing quite well too.

>>510715349
>What does money have to do with...having kids?
Kids need things like clothing, food, and shelter. Those things cost money.

Also, if you aren't a nigger you want enough money to help your kids have a good life when they are adults.

>>510715349
If you can't afford it, you don't deserve it. Same with a nice car or a vacation.

Rewards are only for those who work for them.

>>510715585
Fucking this.
>t. Couldn't afford a hobby until 25.

>>510714841 (OP)
>a woman breaking up a relationship is news worthy
You can't suffer in America

>>510714841 (OP)
>woman wants to get married FAST
>cant even wait two years
That's a huge red flag.
>Marry me NOW
>I cant stand being nice to you or being skinny for another year!
>I want to go back to being a fat bitch right now!
>I only view our relationship as a means to an end and I want to get to the end NOW.

>>510714841 (OP)
I proposed to my gf at our two year mark in last August but now I think I'm going to break up with her. She is messy and never cooks or cleans - trash everywhere in her apartment.

>>510714841 (OP)
Why should she waste her time with someone who doesn't want the same thing as her? Best for both parties to move on.

>>510715012
This. Tell the dude that you ain't fucking him until he is married to you and he'll either fuck off or propose. Simple as.

It's so easy.

>>510714841 (OP)
You don’t have to marry anyone but don’t string her along either. If a woman is unironically thinking about marriage, odds are you’re keeping a more or less decent woman off the market by doing so, taking her youth and putting mileage on her at the same time as well. 2 years is enough time to know if she’s trustworthy or not.

But again, if a woman can be strung along for 2 years and change, it also says a lot about her as well. She could also be very low value and hoping this is her last chance and just hanging on for dear life, or mentally unsound.

>>510715947
So many of the problems in society right now would be solved if this was the norm.

>>510715961
I too was 15 once.

>>510714949
Asked this to a an ex who was in the same camp of gotta be married after x time together. She was too afraid I'd say no.

>>510714841 (OP)
The red flag is that she couldn't communicate, not the aftermath of the lack of communication. If you can't be honest and say "hey this is pretty important to me because X, let's get married" and instead you do petty shit like waiting for a vacation that he probably paid for so you can announce it, then you're an emotionally and socially stunted cunt. Speak your damn mind.

>>510715985
>>510715947
Also, eliminate no fault divorces and yes. It would work.

>>510715779
based japanon gets it

These trads are worse than leftists.
They are all feminists in disguise. Marriage has NO meaning nowadays. It's just a regular relationship that will receive some bureaucrat's stamp when it starts and when it ends. Only difference is really some minor (especially if both have a similar salary) tax savings and a chance that you will lose some of your stuff through court orders.
It's not for greenlighting sex. People have sex (with many other people) before they marry.
It's not to make an official unbreakable bond. The bond can be canceled in a shorter time span than my internet contract.
It's a joke and should be handled as such but the trads are such simps, they would never suggest that anything is wrong with women. It's always men.

>>510716124
>. If you can't be honest
but anon, honesty would entail at least partial responsibility for the outcome
and we can't have responsibility put on women, that's patriarchal oppression

>>510714841 (OP)
my wife asked me in an angry manner if I was going to marry her or not in like 5 dates

>>510715845
If you are really not larping, RUN.
It's one thing to keep such a woman as a temporary companion but marrying (any woman really but especially) such a woman, is beyond stupid. What would you gain?
>>510715887
Nope, modern marriage is a joke and worthless at best and at worst a risk for the man. There is nothing to gain apart from some vague social points and even that is diminishing more every day.

>>510714841 (OP)
Bitch is fucked. But there are situations where it's justified:
>she's in her 30's when you started dating
>you both had clear expectations about the relationship leading to marriage or ending quickly
>he was teasing it to get booty
I recently got engaged. Well about 6 months ago. We dated for 6ish years; I was shopping for a ring for over a year because shit is expensive, and I wanted her to understand the gravity of the comitment. There is no divorce. I am getting married to have kids. Till death do we part. And even then the expectation is that she doesnt get to move on. I will not cheat, if she does I have told her outright I will kill a man, I dont flirt with other women, she doesnt flirt with other men, we have the same values and everything's cool. Took me 6 years to build the confidence to do so. 2 years? Fucking fast, I didnt even say "I love you" for 6 months when we started dating.

>>510715985
Women will just have one night stands with the guys they are attracted to and friendzone your ass.
The only way out of this is the taliban method.
Say promiscuity is illegal, wait for the retarded whores to have sex in public and walk around naked, let them think they are winning a bit, then surround and brutally execute them one by one.
When they stopresisting and say they are sorry, say 'there is no mercy' and continue. Let every foid in the country know that if they use the social contract as a sex toy they immediately become less than human with no chance of redemption.

>>510715961
>strung along
you mean after two years she's tired of keeping up the charade and wants to be her real self again
she really can't keep pretending for much longer so you'd better pop the question and put on the ball and chains so she can relax
what kind of inconsiderate bastard are you

>>510715961
Trad idiot. see >>510716256
>>510716109
This. It's beyond naive.

>>510715779
oh shit someone already said it
nvm

>>510716256
>The bond can be canceled in a shorter time span than my internet contract.
kek
also German bureaucracy must be a monster

>>510716569
What is your rationale behind marrying?
>There is no divorce
Well, if you say so...
>I will kill a man
At least, you sound committed on that one.

>>510716256
They are living in the 1880s because the reality is too terrifying. It's a coping mechanism.
This problem has become so genetically entrenched that the men alive today actually believe it has always been this way. That is how badly their parents, grand parents and great grand parents fucked up starting in the 'roaring 20s'.
Alot of the simps you see are actually displaying a male version of whore genetics. People think being too weak to win outright and always relying on deception is intelligence. You can tell people exactly what they are doing and they will keep trying to do it.
>how do we fix it
Your old leadership had the right idea: courage, virtue and intelligence breeds, everyone else goes to summer camp.

>>510714841 (OP)
Each roastie whore that is beaten to death is one less race traitor.

>>510715213
she is pretty? unlike you paki incel

2 Years is too long. 1 Year would have been enough

If you've had a girlfriend for longer than 2 years then she's fair game for everyone.

>>510714841 (OP)
Hopefully he left her there

>>510716569
>I'll get divorce raped the go to prison for murder
great life plan, anon

>>510717217
>a story that perfectly illustrates how men are pigs
it totally happened that way btw

>>510717351
seen such cases many times in real life.

>>510717510
based germ voyeur

>>510717217
> they were celibate for many years
uhuh sure. every time I hear this nonsense, there's some fuckery behind the scenes.

>>510715961
>2 years is enough time to know if she's trustworthy or not
You have to be 18 to post on this board, son.
You don't need any time at all to know if you can trust a woman. I'll save you the trouble and explain it to you: you can NEVER trust a woman. Ever. Think of them as teenagers, no matter how old they actually are, and you'll have the correct mindset for dealing with them.

>>510717510
I've been that man but they ignore that I kept trying to elope or get a court house service after year 1 and she kept saying no. Women's priority seems to be the shiny rock, the ceremony, the party and maybe 5 other things before being married. Kept pushing for it because its what my parents did and have been together for 40 years while hers paid for the equivalent of 2 new cars at the time and got divorced 10 years later.

>>510717813
stop projecting slut

>>510716385
And you did it?
Idiot.

>>510716761
When it comes to marriage it's actually quite a bliss. No common law marriage stuff at all.
Want to be married? YOU NEED THE STAMP. But it can also take of course up to a year (no joke) to get the stamp if you want it because the bureaucrats are always really busy kek.
>>510717038
That's what I noticed too. It's a cope. They can't accept that this part of society is just fucked. And honestly that's understandable because it is a really scary thought but ignoring or denying the problem won't fix it.
For a lack of better words, it's never the "alphas" who are trads that are in favor of marriage. It's always some weird weak people. If not physically, at least mentally. That shows again how this is a weak position if only weak men are following it.
>>510717813
This
AND EVEN IF THAT HAPPENED (it didn't). Only low IQs need a reminder that exceptions don't disprove the trend.

>>510714841 (OP)
He didn't propose because she has no tail.

>>510717978
thats some jewish propaganda.
You are free to date women that dont believe in marriage. Plenty are there. Just dont string along a woman that wants to get married. Hard to understand?

>>510718129
yiff in hell furfag.

>colored hair
always wrong by default

>>510718021
The whole consumerism around marriage, especially the party, is just next level.
It's one thing if you elope or have some backyard party with your family and friends, maybe rent out some small place which you will pay via the money presents from the guests but if you really belong to the group of people that spends multiple thousand dollars (for many it's 10k or 20k or more, check the stats), then you are beyond help.
>>510718191
Why does a marriage nowadays matter? Why care about her wish for marriage? As long as your living faithfuly together, you are effectively granting her wish.

>>510714841 (OP)

>>510718083
The problem is relying on structural elements of society after tearing down structuralism. Water and food supply are not social constructs. Everything is decaying and will die, they are basically ignoring a termite infestation and hoping their generation isn't in the house when it collapses.
The only trad people who have the right idea are the schizos who make their wife destroy their identity with them, go off grid and disconnect from everything. This directly fixes the problem by putting the benefactors of the fruits under the control of the patriarch who makes the fruits possible.

I agree stop wasting the woman's time I'll never understand childless relationships over a few years or so you're just wasting everybody's time
Stay mad losers

>>510718191
Oh, I'll happily get married. But, I'm doing it on my terms, not the woman's terms or the state's terms.

Marriage is a business contract - the husband is the master, and the wife is the servant. That's the Biblical proscription for marriage. The current, state-enforced terms are unacceptable - they put the woman on equal footing with the man. Not how that works: the man is risking far more than the woman when he gets married, he should always have the biggest piece of chicken at dinner time.

I'll marry as soon as I find a woman that understands her proper place as a wife. If I never find such a woman, then I'll die a bachelor. I'm content with either outcome.

>>510718856
Yes, those faggots going "trad pro marriage like the old days" makes everything ironically even worse.

>>510718652
Because she likes you to show her commitment and marriage demonstrays it in the strongest way. Why would a woman that wants marriage and children commit to a fag that doesnt even grant her that wish?
Its not a one way street

>>510719457
>it's not a one way street
Women need men far more than men need women. It IS a one way street. If women don't like it, they can die alone with their cats.

>>510719358
Fair. As long as its a mutual agreement i dont see any problems with it

>>510719457
>Because she likes you to show her commitment and marriage demonstrays it in the strongest way
Why is that the case? Please also refer to >>510716256

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>>510719518
not in modern society. Thats just not the reality.
There is a fertility crisis for a reason.
Women are deciding happily to stay childless and have way more options to settle than the average men

>>510719531
Wisdom? On /pol/? Never thought I'd see the day. Good on ya, mate.

>>510719646
then so be it
but then don't complain about Abdul and Ranjeet filling your cities

>>510719646
Then modern society ought be destroyed. Uncle Ted was absolutely right. Why the fuck should men support a society that doesn't benefit them over women? And guess what: without male support, the society collapses anyway, because women absolutely CANNOT maintain society by themselves.

Ultimately, it's men that have the power. They should use it. That's what I'm arguing for.

"He who can destroy a thing, controls that thing" - Paul Atreides, "Dune"

>>510719556
It does show commitment because you are financially and legally sacrifice and agree upon a partnership. Married and not being married makes a difference legally and for most also it does have a deeper romantic meaning. Makes much sense if you intent to have children

>>510714841 (OP)
After a year of you aren't married, your just using each other for sex.

>>510719937
>You should legally sacrifice yourself to some to someone with a mental capabilities of a child that never faced consequences of their actions.
>It's
How about you do it?

>>510719844
They do but they used it to their own disadvantage by introducing industrializing society, allowing modern feminism and contributing and creating the booming sex industry we have now.

>>510719937
Thanks for being honest. Yes, that's the showing commitment part of modern marriage. Going into a one-sided contract as a man.
And that's something that you generally of course should never do.
This is the thing that women gain in marriage and why they want it.
They don't want it for securing a bond (because it doesn't do that), they want more power.
So men can only lose, that's why they obviously shouldn't do that. And more and more won't do that. Estimates are that in contrast to some decades ago 90% of men marrying at some point in their life. The today's 20 - 25 yo will only have a rate of 60%. AND THAT WAS BEFORE THE RED PILL FAGGOT INFLUENCERS BECAME MAINSTREAM. It will probably go down even further for that generation and next generations could have the majority of men never marrying in their life. And that doesn't mean that they will be incels. 80% (as it's also right now) will have sex but maybe it will just be casually for a certain portion of that or in a partnership without marriage.

As a man, it really feels like behind every door is a trap. Not a single thing in my life didn't come with hidden fees or sudden expenses. Everyone is out for your pockets, its so tiring.

I don't know whether or not true good women exist anymore. It's no wonder many men check out.

>>510715242
I'm 31 years old, I already fucking own a four bedroom house, and a holiday apartment in Spain, and have over £200,000 in an investment account, and I'm 6'4".
Where's my based obedient tradwife to give me 3-4 kids?

Oh right, I don't get one because I'm balding and look like Shrek.
"Just be a good hardworking man and you'll get a family bro" doesn't work anymore because it's now ALSO contingent on being good looking as well.

So you're asking young men to dedicate their entire life to wageslaving like a good little goy just to give themselves a COINFLIP chance that they also look okay enough to attract a decent woman by the end of it.
The only women that have ever shown the slightest interest in me are used-up single mothers. If I'd known it would be like this 15 years ago I never would have fucking bothered. I wasted my fucking life.

>>510720348
I'm not dismissing the sins and failures of men for our current predicament. I agree, feminism wouldn't even exist without weak men giving up their power and authority to women in exchange for nothing.

I'm simply saying that we don't need to *continue* to suffer for the sins of our fathers. We are capable of fixing things. It's probably going to be violent though - the simps and whores won't go quietly.

>>510715779
My last ex was like this. Complained I didnt give her a ring at the one year of dating so I left instead.

>>510714841 (OP)

Should men dump their girlfriends if they dont put out by the third date?

>>510717072
Please get standards, Hans.

>>510714841 (OP)
It's a good boundary to have yeah. Why waste more than 3 years with a nigga if he ain't gonna put a ring on it?

Doritos are $7 a bag bro. I'll never get married.

>>510720811
Yes, that's the other thing. ITS WOMEN WHO DONT WANT RELATIONSHIPS WITH MEN WHO ARENT 8+/10
I tried dating apps once and I was shocked. I always thought the red pill guys were generally on the money but a bit too doomer but they were 100% right. I did everything women online write about wanting in their men's profiles, shown many interests, cool photos in cool locations, made it clear that I have a good job, have a good degree AND THE RESULTS WERE ABYSMAL and I obviously wasn't going for the 10/10 Instagram models but normal girls who look and seem similar to me. I'm at least a normal looking maybe in parts even a bit above average.
It was all a lie. Women don't care about how cool your profile is. They care about bagging some 8/10 guy. That's why they are all complaining about ghosting.
>Men's biggest problem
Getting no attention at all
>Women's biggest problem
Ghosting and men who don't care about good chats or good dates
That makes it clear that they are really all just chasing the top 20% looks wise even though they have hundreds of options and could at least try getting to know a normal guy.
>Inb4 muh datings apps are not really representative of women
Yes they are, most women who are interested in dating are on them and that's simply what the MO is right now.
It shows perfectly how they really work under the hood.

>>510714841 (OP)
>pink hair

>>510721674
You want women to be whores?

>>510721674
Depends. Is she a virgin, and otherwise loyal, submissive, and obedient? Then you wait as many dates as it takes.

Is she a "modern woman"? Then why did you even begin dating her exclusively in the first place? She's for the streets, throw her back.

>>510715150
Boy, if that doesn't just scream freedom, independence and ebullient expectations of an even brighter future, I don't know what does.

>>510720811
>I wasted my fucking life.
Dude? Seriously? You're only 31.

>>510721974
In a certain perspective, sure, that makes sense. But putting a "timer" on a relationship is kinda a red flag. Do you enjoy his company? Then why are you going to change a good thing?

In other words, why do you feel the *need* to get married at all? What does that change for you?

>>510715845
Break up with her. I broke up with my fiance over the same thing. Refused to work, cook, clean, really just about anything. All she does are "projects" which here has the meaning of she makes a huge fuckin mess and then doesn't clean it up and starts crying when I ask her to tidy up the area.

Final straw was realizing she was taking my credit card and spending hundreds on these projects.

Beat feet.

>>510722441
>want someday

>>510715213
the purple hair is more a red flag than her breaking up with this guy after 2 years.

but i dont see piercings or tattoos so it might not be a real issue.

I'm psycho bitch and if you don't dump at least 10k on permission to ask for my hand in marriage then you a broke bitch you don't order door dash you cook lmao

>>510715845
>She is messy and never cooks or cleans - trash everywhere in her apartment.
Huge red flags! Run while you can, anon.

>>510721674
You should dump them immediately if they don't fuck by the first day. Waiting around is for cucks, let the tradfags wait around in chastity.

>>510720811
Work out and actually get a sense of fashion and develop some sort of personality.

>>510714841 (OP)
Ima be honest, one year is too long already. But also dont be engaged for ten years. Shit is dumb af. We reatched some dumb fucking cargo-cult levels of commitment.

>>510714841 (OP)
Dumb slide thread IDF, however, she’s not. Statistically the most successful marriages come from tying the knot in the first six months to three years. Though I guess some planning goes in. I did ask mine within this window.

>>510715845
Ah, dude, that’s the typical zoomette

>>510714841 (OP)
If after 2 years he had not yet learned to read her shallow mind, it was never going to work anyway.

>>510714841 (OP)
Men should dump their gf if she's not pregnant in 2 years. If she aborts then obviously same. You do not just marry a girl unless kids are in the picture, marriage is for the purpose of raising children together, not caretaking for some lazy cunt.

>>510714841 (OP)
She is wrong. Usualy issues in relationship show after 2-3 years. Anyway fuck women, fuck jews and fuck niggers.

>>510714841 (OP)
If she actually communicated beforehand that she wanted to get married quickly I don't think she's wrong. If she just dumped him out of the blue because she expected him to read her mind then she's wrong.

This one could go either way depending on how it went. Some dudes don't intend to marry, ever but will never say so. Other dudes just take a lot longer than 2 years to feel ready to commit. It just all depends.

>>510714841 (OP)
>does that make me a walking red flag

Men don't check references when it comes to women they immediately identify as curb-kickage.

Case in point.

>>510714841 (OP)
Plenty never marry.

>>510715150
How is she balder than most men?

>>510717009
For the kids.

>>510717256
Eh, terms of the deal. I know she'll kill me in my sleep if I cheat, but fair is fair, and I dont hit women.

>>510723662
Bouts of anxiety-driven hair-pulling due to lack of purpose

>>510723662
Balding can be actually a problem for women too. Especially black women. This is basically a death sentence for them. While a bald man can (usually unsuccessfully but still) cope with Gym. For women it's then just simply over.

>>510715779
How much time should a man wait before proposing?

>>510723939
Forever.

>>510723939
two weeks

>>510714841 (OP)
Oy vey that chick has bpd and daddy issues written all over her face, looks like the trash took itself out lel.

>>510715242
I had a factory job at a government contractor and 74k in savings from living with mommy.
My ex and I were looking at homes. I couldn't find a "starter home" that didn't come with a fucking 458 dollar a month HoA fee.
In other words, a manufactured home. They were pretty nice desu. I would have absolutely bought one if I also owned the 6000 sq ft land it came on. But nope, these boomer kike subhumans babe to run literal next level rent cuckoldry. Every zoning boards member deserves cancer. Hard fucking pancreatic cancer. And i hope their kids get it too. I hope the agony of it rapes their fucking soul. I hate these fucking cocksuckers so much. They want us all to be rentslaves no matter what.
Anyway, after the 5th house I refused to buy she threatened to dump me and then she did. Honestly I was a shit boyfriend to her anyway. So maybe it was for the best. I feel bad for wasting her time.

>>510715256
>Anything over thirty and you should just buy her a house.
lol what the fuck?

>>510722659
Safety pin earrings are quite a tell for disgusting leftist worldviews too.
Anything 'kitschy' 'camp' means supporting dumb queer shit.

I don't even care about the actual sexual proclivities, I preferred my women to be bi in fact, but I found leftism also means they can't hold up a relationship, keep commitments, pay bills or do anything responsible around the house etc, they're not marriage material in the first place, even considering they already killed the institution.

>>510723458
She didn't. BPDs expect you to read their mind, especially when it swaps poles every 5 minutes.
It's difficult to explain to all the autistic virgins on this board how insane women can actually be, and simps tend to interpret that as 'misogyny' because you're simps.

>>510714841 (OP)
He's taking her on vacation for their second anniversary of being "boyfriend and girlfriend" and she's dumping him? Bitch thinks she's going to find another guy that does that? Good luck.

>>510714841 (OP)
i dont think its a bad idea to get out of a relationship thats going nowhere. a lot of people act like relationships are fast food, actually they are necessary to propagate the species. if its going nowhere, why waste your precious burning candle on it? maybe 2 years on vacation is a worse point to call it than 2 years and a month.

>>510717217
Bro there's a major difference between 1 or 2 years and 10 years.

>>510717217
>becky waits for chad
>chad does not want her
>uses her for her body
>finds a stacy and dumps the becky
story as old as time
Keep in mind this is all the womens fault, she could easily get a nonchad husband who would worship the ground she walks on, but women would rather be chads one night stand rather than some normies wife.

>>510723662
>>510715150
ASSAJ VENTRESS MAX

>>510725121
Projecting your own masochist internet fanfiction is funny. Plenty of ugly dudes and thugs are in relationships. Skill issue

>>510725584
>Plenty of ugly dudes
Why do you think sexless marriages are a thing bud?
Women marry the betabuxxer to be able to live a prosperous life after fucking as many chads as possible but they are never happy with the betabuxxer since they want chad.
And thugs are very much in demand by women due to the fact that they perceive them as chad.
You are just a blind idiot.

>>510714841 (OP)
Men shouldn't be proposing until AT LEAST the 5 year mark. There's far too much risk in getting married these days and women can easily fake attraction/obedience for a year or two if they know it will secure them a financial benefactor for years to come. Even if they aren't playing pretend, it can just be that they start feeling worn out/tired of the relationship, if that's the case, the two year mark is usually where it will start showing. The things they didn't mind at first become the things they just put up with, the things they just put up with become the things they can't stand. By 5 years you'll have truly seen if you two are actually compatible and can make an informed decision about whether you should be together forever or not. Who gives a fuck about "wasting" 5 years of her time? She's gonna force you to marry her, get knocked up by you, and leave then leave, right when you're starting to pick up steam in life and then rape you in divorce court and you'll have wasted your whole life up to that point watching all your hard work go out the window, and you'll waste the next 18 years of your life on fighting over custody and child support. She can potentially lose 5 years to save you 25 years.

>>510714841 (OP)
should men dump their gf if she gains fifteen pounds?

>>510715150
>hairline

>>510720762
It is a one sided thing if kids are involved. It’s equal and fair to demand a more serious commitment and sacrifice if you are asking your woman to bear you children. You would do the same if you would go through all the pain during pregnancy and the financial setbacks that come with it by having children. Least you could do is marry her beforehand. But you’re an egoistic person that only looks out for his own benefits.

>>510721257
she dodged a bullet. You sound exhausting and sensitive

>>510723477
>aposematic modern female
never propose.

>>510714841 (OP)
>>510715213
>purple hair
RUN like Hussein fucking Bolt!

>>510717072
dähmliches cuckschwein

>>510725816
why do you think the most hideous looking people have so many kids? Also, people don’t have sex in their marriage and after kids because either the woman or the men is doing something wrong. Gaining weight, being a cunt. Many reasons.

>>510726247
Verpiss dich Mohammed du Ziegenficker

>>510715779
This anon gets it. They just want the wedding, and think they're owed it without doing anything to earn it other than showing up to the relationship. It's like when you have a group project in school, and there's always that person who does all the work while somebody else just coasts by doing the bare minimum. Women are lazy and entitled in relationships and everything else really.

>>510714841 (OP)
Yes you are a walking red flag. You don’t get to force commitment. However, you are always free to walk away - so kick rocks. Maybe the next simp will get some jewery for you

>>510715150
You can see the unhappiness behind her fetal alcohol syndrome eyes

>>510714841 (OP)
Better this than a childless cat lady.

Men being with women this long without marriage and children have something wrong with them.

>>510724360
This is what happens when foreign entities and corporations are allowed to own land. They buy up huge swaths of land that could house thousands of people and then pack as many houses as they possibly can onto it and keep all the land rights and sell you the house, if you're lucky, in many cases they just rent them out now. The government has LITERALLY sold this country out to jew corporations and chinese investors.

>>510717217
If her friend had been wife material, then she would've been made into a wife. It's as simple as that. These dumb bitches need to learn that they can't just do anything they want with zero consequences. The guy probably found a woman who didn't constantly nag, beg for money, throw tantrums, etc. Yeah he should've dumped her sooner, but a lot of men stay in relationships like that because they actually are in love and the whole sunk cost fallacy.

>>510714841 (OP)
You can't waste a young woman's time. She has a shelf life, both in "beauty" and reproductive capacity.
If you're not serious, go elsewhere.

>>510714841 (OP)
>should women
No

>>510727243
Correct. Usually after the third to fifth abortion is when things tend to get a little worrisome

>>510726516
>why do you think the most hideous looking people have so many kids?
they dont if you mean the shitskins then they have them due to their societal conditioning and second gen shitskins have the same amount of kids as germs since they arent raised in a society to be conditioned to accept being married and having kids with a non chad.
> Also, people don’t have sex in their marriage and after kids because either the woman or the men is doing something wrong
Yeah the man is doing something wrong, he has been doing it since his birth, since he was not born a chad.
OVER FOR NON CHADS.

>>510715150
I would argue with you on ideological grounds were it not for the facts that:
1. Divorce is legal
2. Women get men's shit in divorce
3. Men lose their shit in divorce
Marriage is a nail to the coffin of a relationship. Love doesn't require state confirmation, the bitch didn't love the guy, he dodged a bullet

>>510728219
>argue
Agree*

If men should propose after 2 years then women should marry in their early 20s.
Tired of females complaining about the behavior they cause and reward.
The reason men don't marry is because women don't want the kind of men who would want to marry young.

>>510727578
This lesson goes back to the very beginning

>>510728406
No man wants to marry young. All of them just want to get their dick wet.

>>510728609
stop projecting, degenerate

>>510728609
I wanted to get married since I was 15

Jfl imagine after 2 years living with someone everyday, no clue if they want to be with you, decide to breakup and rarely talk to them again
Peak clown world potato onions IQ desu

>>510714841 (OP)
Men should ghost women that don't put out after 2 days. Fair is fair. Only a fool gets married.

>>510728609
I wanted to get married ever since I remember my own thoughts, I wanted to have 5 kids and a big house for them. It is women who dont want kids 99 percent of the time.

>>510714841 (OP)
WE NEED TO GIVE THIS RANDOM WOMAN AS MUCH ATTENTION AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE 4CHAN /POL/. SHE IS THE ARBITER OF TRUTH.

>>510715947
Only works if he doesn't know about the 50 guys she already fucked already

>>510715213
She did our brother a favor
She would divorce rape him in ten years when she decided to find herself and get on the cock carousel

>>510719646
>Women are deciding happily to stay childless and have way more options to settle
What happens to women after women destroy civilization. Women live long enough to find out.

>>510714841 (OP)
If her goal in dating is to find a husband it is rational to try to determine if your relationship is going that way. It makes sense as a strategy to have guidelines for your behavior towards your goals.

>>510714841 (OP)
he dodged a bullet, that bitch would have cheated on him either way. he can now proceed to date better choices!

>>510716256
> tax savings and a chance that you will lose some of your stuff through court orders.
Wich stone you live under not to know what really happens? There is not only a divorce rape, if you have kids - which is the meaning of marriage - you will be stripped of anything beyond wage floor. As an addition to your sleve existence you are allowed to travel to see your kids - eventually - if you travel half the country on weekend just to stand at the meeting point to receive the message - they have the flu sorry. Maybe that do not happen, as you can walk a crocodile sump unharmed,

>>510717217
> 2 years
You must be above puppy age to post here.

>>510717065
She just dumped him. Nobody's saying anything about beating anyone to death, psycho.

>>510714841 (OP)
Lucky guy dodged a bullet.

>>510715012
100% this. Kuffar will seethe. OP woman is now a used roastie whore. She is fit for having her whore mouth used as a piss urinal and nothing more.

>>510715408
kek I keep trying to tell this to people and guess what, they jump straight into marriage not even 6 months of knowing each other then split up a month later

>>510720811
>wasted
Come on now.

>>510714841 (OP)
Marriage is a net negative for everybody involved at this point, they even give you gibs if you have kids outside of wedlock.

>>510715242
>If you're a real tradman you should ...
We are living in the modern world not your midage long gone farmer delusion.

>>510715947
>This. Tell the dude that you ain't fucking him until he is married to you and he'll either fuck off or propose. Simple as.
Distincts of an average prostitute by what?

>>510714841 (OP)
This is so retarded. Ok fine, we can have sex, but if you don't marry me in 2 years I'm leaving you.
To be fair even if she tried not putting out it doesn't really work when you're already let another guy hit.

>>510715150
that's a big forehead.....bitch's balding kek

>>510715961
>taking her youth and putting mileage on her at the same time as well.
She had milage before they met, and what fucking youth? You know when women look to marry? After their youth fades. Meet them young enough and you will hear how they don't want to marry "yet", but they will do other things. Some may want to persue an education adn tehy can do that while having a relationships, most guys won't have an issue with that. But alas FOMO kicks in and she's young, committing to onyl one person now is just too much. She needs to "find herself" before she settles down. How many women did you know break up with their bf for uni? After all normies love talking about "the experience". What is the uni experience? Why can't you do it while you're in a relationship, what is it about studying for your career that is such an amazing experience in the eyes of women?

They spend their youth and innocence on other men, then wonder why they have no leverage for marriage later in life when they want a guy to commit.
>In the UK, the average age for opposite-sex couples marrying in 2020 was 35.3 years for men and 33.2 years for women

>>510714841 (OP)
My boy dodged a bullet.

>>510715012
Women are so stupid. We figured this shit out thousands of years ago.

>>510717217
Lmao I wonder what she's not telling us about her "Friend"

>>510714841 (OP)
> Bela Marie, a self-worth influencer, in the closed-captions of a trending tell-all with over 10 million TikTok views. “

Dear God. Why would you go near that?

>>510715256
>Anything over thirty and you should just buy her a house.

I was with you until this part. The fuck are you smoking, brother? If anything it should be 'anything over 30 and you dump her ass after the first few fucks'.

>>510714841 (OP)
amputation in ancient egypt as an offering, in this case it is the witches soul being offered. in return for nothing.
they give it away so cheaply because it never had worth to begin with. this is the eternal doom of women.

Yes.

Yes.

>>510719646
You basically made 0 argument in favor of marriage btw

>>510714841 (OP)
>doesnt communicate that she wants to marry already
>dumps her bf because he didnt propose in just two years

>>510715947
>This. Tell the dude that you ain't fucking him until he is married to you and he'll either fuck off or propose. Simple as.
Yeah, even women understand that suddenly pretending to be a virgin is just going to make them look dumb as fuck.

>>510714841 (OP)

https://nypost.com/2025/07/16/lifestyle/i-dumped-my-boyfriend-on-our-second-anniversary-vacation-when-he-didnt-propose-does-that-make-me-a-walking-red-flag/

Idiot girl wrote that using AI and stock photos. The absolute state of the media.