Thread 510722429

has monogamy failed as a societal rule?
it's really obvious human nature makes you seek other love interests why go against it?

>>510722429 (OP)
Christcuckery is not completely dead yet. Once it is monogamy goes the same way

>>510722429 (OP)
Monogamy is meant to encourage a more stable environment for child rearing. Polygamous relationships are a lot less stable for children to grow up supervised by, especially in today's ultra-alienated world where your immediate community can't meaningfully be relied upon.

Yes

>>510722595
muslims have had polygamy for milllenia and they have higher trust societies

>>510722429 (OP)
>>510722529
Monogamy is civilization.

There's a reason every culture everywhere that got beyond stone age tier is monogamous, you need to give the critical mass of men a reason to participate.

>>510722716
you mean all those cultures that are collapsing today?

>>510722671
Polygamy is permitted, but not the norm. Only the really rich practice it.

>>510722786
the point is that their culture allows it

>>510722780
They're collapsing because monogamy has been undermined via no fault divorce, hookup culture, hypergamy, chad fucking everything that moves, and other assorted whoreish patterns of behavior.

Accordingly and entirely as predicted, more and more men are checking out , hence the collapse.

>>510722847
And its a bunch of violent unstable shitholes due to the resulting surplus of hopelessly single men.

No society rule works if you don't enforce it, in fact no rule in general works if you don't enforce it

>>510722429 (OP)
The vast majority of societal rules are based around limited mobility and limited access to other people.
There were studies long before these refugee crisises about how the further you are from home the more likely you are to disregard rules/laws/civility because our brains are programmed to only care what our peer groups think.
I would argue the true purpose of widespread religion was to curb this, because if everywhere you go you see other people who worship the way you worship, you're more likely to feel like a piece of home is following you and as such behave yourself.
This would also explain why non-christians imported to the West cause such problems because whenever they're not around their Mosque-group they feel like they're around people who don't matter.
This is also why the atomization of society in general is only going to make this worse despite being potentially beneficial for the individual.

Japan as far as I am aware, are consistently the only outlier to this rule, but adopting Japanese culture on a worldwide scale is considered taboo by the elites.

>>510723015
I'm pretty sure most of them are violent because america gives them weapons to destabilize their governments

>>510722429 (OP)
No, monogamy works just fine. The problem is morality is no longer enforced. Society will go with it

>>510722429 (OP)
monogamy only exists to tether an attractive female to an average looking male. it only serves lower caste men with no game

>>510723084
The ottoman empire was constantly putting out fires and having to bring the hammer down hard on various regions.

>>510722429 (OP)
doesn't concern me so I don't care.

t. forever alone

>>510723160
the problem is that morality is subjective while human nature is objective

>>510722429 (OP) He should be in prison. Not for cheating. But more specifically, having that fucken wrinkled up old prune as his mistress. He's a wealthy CEO. Imagine gambling your fortune in a potential divorce by fucking a wrinkled old hag. If you're going to risk getting divorce raped, at least do it with a chick who is hot.

>>510722716
Absurd. There have been lots of polygynous civilizations. Even christcucked Europe was still polygynous, just less so. Nobles had entire palaces built for their mistresses.

State-enforced monogamy is simply sexual marxism. It is redistributionism of the most important resource: women. Take them from the chads and give them to the incels.

Any reasonable man would rather his daughter be the king's second wife than the only wife of some copperwire-stealing retard.

>>510722786
>Polygamy is permitted, but not the norm. Only the really rich practice it.
That's how it works, yes. There is a finite supply of women and an essentially infinite demand for them, like any other valuable resource.

>>510723201
Unlike medieval and renaissance Europe which was just a beacon of societal stability?

>>510723805
he also probably thinks medieval work conditions were better than modern day

>>510723234
Some guys just arent up for fucking women that could be their daughters or granddaughters. There's no mental connection to be had, no shared life experience. Most of your jokes and cultural reference points predate their entire life.

If the point is tight young pussy, get a whore.

>>510722429 (OP)
Imagine cheating on your wife with Gary Busey

>>510722429 (OP)
dead site
pedo mods
put the pedo RapeApe in jail

>>510723562
Except theres only so much nobility, and theyre inbred retards.

You'll notice some random geneticly chad villager wasnt allowed to hog all the women of the village

>bro, this psychopathic grifter is fucking some career roastie! Does that mean that monogamy is fucked???
Stay in Mexico Juan

>>510724196
>he fell for the woman maturing mentally past 25 meme
Ooof

>>510724196
I respect Epstein more than I respect you Anglocucks. Die out already

>>510724324
yes monogamy is a failure
prostitution should be legal

>>510724356
>>510724364
Guess how i know none of you retards have actually been around women 20 years younger than yourself

I'm not talking about normal 3-10 year gaps here that make 30 yearold feminists kvetch. I'm talking about 55 yearold billionaires fucking 19 yearolds

>>510722529
Monogamy predates christcuckery, retard. It's the foundation of a functional society.

>>510725072
do you know which is the oldest profession anon?

>>510722429 (OP)
Monogamy didn't fail. It was attacked and abandoned. The nuclear family is now the domain of the elite, who are having no issues with getting married and having huge clutches of children to leave their legacies to. They just don't want the proles to have two parent households

>>510722429 (OP)
who is this and why are people posting them all over /pol/.

>>510725281
the fuck are you talking about trump has divorced like 4 times and had sex with a pornstar

Ancient real Aryan Kings (from Mahabharata) had multiple wives. Egyptian pharoahs had multiple wives.

Fcking same pussy everynight is mental illness

>>510723179
Yes, that's why unconstrained hypergamy leads to white bitches fucking niggers. Because white bitches always select for the best men. Kys faggot.

>>510725399
It's a CEO who was caught cheating at a concert with his HR Manager.
What you're seeing is the kiss cam at a Coldplay concert. 5 seconds after the image they freakout and try to hide. It's pretty funny

>>510722429 (OP)
Why should incels care about this?

>>510724793
A woman is for fucking, not debating the finer points of Hegel. Faggot.

>>510725529
no anon everything is a conspiracy

>>510722429 (OP)
He can’t get someone younger and hotter to risk it on, Jesus. You’re rich tall white and decent looking and you get busted up pussy

>>510722671
>muslims have had polygamy for milllenia and they have higher trust societies
They dont, mate. The emir takes all, and the rest have no incentive to care about "their country". Saudia arabia begs murica to defend them, but if they ever get into a war, they will fold almost immediately.

>>510722716
Leaf is right.

>>510722429 (OP)
People seem to have forgotten that, not even 100 years ago, monogamy was inforced BY LAW. A man getting caught cheating would suffer consequences, that could include jail time . Women would suffer worse, being shunned from socieaty and ostrecized by the community.

Nowadays, morality is dead. People do what they want, with little to no consequences. Who to blame? The usual suspects, jews

>>510725529
just like in my movies haha

>>510725826
it was enforced to the common man
elites have always gotten away with it

>>510725709
Look at the way they're holding each other. Some young girl isn't going to love him like that, this was emotional.

>>510722429 (OP)
The fucking hoeflation in this image. Damn.

>>510725709
CEOs go for their HR directors as it's on tap at any company gathering. All the HR directors I've ever known are complete whores for the CEO

>>510725960
it was enforced to the common man
elites have always gotten away with it
No.

European powers only recognized legitimate children with wedded wife. That increased stability within family, and took care of inheritance problems. Concubines and bastards etc. were irrelevant.

Whereas my ancestors in their infinite wisdom, divided their country among their sons.
Guess which one lasts longer.

>>510723047
> his would also explain why non-christians imported to the West cause such problems because whenever they're not around their Mosque-group they feel like they're around people who don't matter.
Nailed it desu

>>510726192
why do you think prostitution has always existed retard

>>510722946
/thread
sodom and gomorra

>>510722671
only the rich have a harem
rest are left to rape whatever they can catch
sounds great

>>510722429 (OP)
It's a failed experiment

>According to the Ethnographic Atlas by George P. Murdock, of 1,231 societies from around the world noted, 186 were monogamous; 453 had occasional polygyny; 588 had more frequent polygyny; and 4 had polyandry.

>>510726482
Okay, whatever you say.

>>510722429 (OP)
his Wife and kids (pic rel)

>>510724196 That is the most homosexual thing I've ever heard. You don't need shared life experiences and a bunch of other emotional connection bullshit to want to fuck someone.

The best sex I have ever had have come from chicks who don't speak a word of English. We didn't even speak the same language, let alone had a bunch of emotional connection bullshit.

The reason he's fucking that old bag of wrinkles probably has more to do with him having some type of weird fetish, or some type of inadequacy. So he ends up going for wrinkly old hags.

>>510726867
>having a family will make you ha-

>>510722429 (OP)
No its just the feminists being entitled narcissistic retards

>>510727251
and who gave power to the feminists?

>>510727280
Jews you shitskin faggot

>>510722429 (OP)
Same with males seeing 10-13yo girls attractive, It's obvious human nature but they keep stopping it with anti-goyim talmudic laws.

>>510726867
The only plausible answer here is she was a miserable cunt behind closed doors and not putting out. Otherwise from this pic alone I see no reason why he would go after some ugly literal hag. Seriously that woman looks like skeletor in the op.

>>510726867
She’s only with him for the money.

>>510727328
and who gave power to jews

>>510727342
hey dont talk about the orange kike like that

>>510727280
weak men in the past. but now it's too big to undo without societal collapse, because no politician would dare to even suggest it since they'll never get re-elected.

>>510727435
Nobody, they infiltrated institutions such as your presidency by lying and hiding their true nature.

monogamy hasnt been enforced since birth control. its for the well being of children to maximize parental investment and also maximize male long term cooperation

>>510727342
the age of puberty has been driven down artificially and dysgenically. 16 is fine

>>510727533
>muh voooting will fix it
>even though any man can overpower women

it's men holding other men back NIGGER and you won't do shit about it

>>510727573
14*

I think it should be normalized or maybe it already is for men to have kids and then when the woman gets fat/older, he can go fuck some young girl to get his needs taken care off then come home to his wife and kids. It should be noramlized because the wife isn't going to put out or lose weight and yeah..

>>510727890
brown

>>510728087
many European countries have it at 14

>>510727573
birth control is and always has been the root of the problem. not only does it make monogamy pointless, but it enables women to have complete control over babies, without any male input.

>>510722429 (OP)
Money as goal is a failure. If the rich were happy from being rich this wouldn't happen.
Many factors have to come together for a man and a woman raising good children. You both have to want it. Money is a tool and a means to an end. Not the goal. This is the ultimate red pill. This is the only power the jew really has. If I were wrong, the rich wouldn't all turn into sex freaks with an unsatisfiable appetite. It's like watching porn, you don't too much you end up on the tentacle and tranny section.
I love my wife, I would murder for her.

Good news - it's free to be a good man.
Bad news - nothing good is ever easy.

>>510722429 (OP)
In a niggerized and judaised society, every good thing is impossible, until we accept that and do something about it we will keep getting fucked and crying on 4chan

>>510728200
the root of the problem are weak men because women don't have any power by themselves

The reasons for being monogamous stated here on a personal level is just being cucked for “society”, imagine being monogamous to a western roastie after the carousel, polygamy brings the ubermensch the most value, in a world where polygamy is in utter collapse the kids you do have matter more as they are a larger share of the next gen so literally best time to maximalize your genes, you should have a modern harem and at least 100 kids, that autist elon was quick to notice this, let this “society” collapse as it would have anyways, your descendants will take over and make a new one

>>510728883
women have always had the power of concealed ovulation then birth control and make up take it much further

>>510722429 (OP)
normies are too judaic for their own good. they live by no rules but those fabricated by the Jew. Such people will never live well. Case in point.

>>510722529
These retards blame everything on Christianity the way shitskins blame everything on white people.

>>510722429 (OP)
>has monogamy failed as a societal rule?

No, society is failing when monogamy is dying. It reflects a population with a sizable number of people who put personal interests and impulses over their own families.

>>510729232
Hmm, maybe both are to blame for everything

>>510722429 (OP)
idk if ur so mad about it why dont u sacrifice a couple hundred thousand and maybe u can change things

>>510729440
except cheating isn't anything new nigger
it's like pretending the war on drugs is working

>>510722429 (OP)
> the 1960s are when ultra processed scientifically engineered foods started, causing systemic disease in US population; these foods are industrialized cheap foods being tested in the US to scale out to global populations during this time.
>ultra processed food’s destroys women’s hormones causing obvious trackable diseases
>hormonal birth control hides the diseases
>more importantly woman’s sexual revolution moves the Overton window by marketing birth control as family planning tool
>1960 is also when women started working alongside men; these actions were taken to stabilize the monetary supply and hide inflationary pressures
>normalize abortion
>these new social paradigm shifts caused decreased fertility
>decrease fertility is the basis in reasoning for mass immigration to continue the capitalistic systems march of infinite growth
>normalization of population mixing decrease Intelligence and Increase obedience
>follow the money?
>they make the money…
Why go against it? Because it’s what those controlling you want. Resist at all costs.

>>510729546
oh yeah those pre 60s times where people used gasoline with plumb and asbestos and everyone smoked

everyone was so much healthier back then amirite

>>510722429 (OP)
Normalize baby mamas and end the facade once and for all

>>510729520
>except cheating isn't anything new nigger

Neither is murder, rape or pedophilia, doesn't mean we condone them.

>>510729658
trump condones pedophilia though

also dueling was legal which would be murder by today standards

>>510729644
“According to Bruce Charlton, English average IQ declined by 30 pts since the Georgian period. According to Michael Anthony Woodley of Menie, English IQ declined by 13.35 points between 1889 and 2004. Woodley also claims that England is the nation in Europe with the most rapid IQ decline with loss of 1.26 pts IQ per decade. According to Richard Lynn, a Scot from Edinburgh, the average English IQ will hit 87 by the end of this century. However, Edward Dutton disagrees and claims that English average IQ will hit 85 by the end of the century.”

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289613000470

More evidence Europeans have been completely ravaged by the industrial revolution. They used to be much much more intelligent up to two standard deviations higher in IQ than they are today.

The Flynn Effect is primarily verbal and is apparently a statistical aberration based on people being illiterate and learning how to read. If you look into it, spatial intelligence has been at best constant, and possible declining.

After seeing what the generally accepted food does to body and mind firsthand, it’s not hard to believe this.

The most intelligent groups today are the ones that were the most removed from the industrial revolution. I’ve honestly had a hunch the Flynn Effect is off, because people seem less capable than ever before.

This research indicates that intelligence negatively correlates with fertility, and mental reaction time strongly correlates and has causality with intelligence. The basis of that claim seems to be that reaction time is the health state of your mental circuitry.

The research suggests it’s possible to use the reaction time delta between the present population groups and measurements from the past population groups, as a way to determine the damage done to previous population groups. Europeans notoriously have the lowest reaction times out of any population group on earth showing the most damage!

>>510729644
We have definitive proof that the American political system has been a false dichotomy since the end of World War II 100%. You can make arguments that international bankers were behind the civil war in America and taking back their vector for globalization 80 years after funding the American revolution. 1913, 1971, 2007, 2019 we’re reckoning points.

Democracy, especially in its modern Western form, is managed — not in the sense that it's a total illusion, but that its parameters are tightly controlled, its options curated, and its outcomes predictable.

Social movements, including feminist, racial justice, and gender identity movements, are often co-opted, funded, or redirected to serve broader technocratic or geopolitical agendas.

Cultural shifts that erode traditional bonds — family, religion, community — are not always organic, and in many cases, they are accelerated, amplified, or weaponized for social engineering.

Technocratic governance — rule by "experts," often unelected and unaccountable — increasingly overrides democratic will, under the guise of public health, safety, or progress.

Democracy, particularly in the United States, functions not as a system of popular sovereignty, but as a vector for globalization — a managed system of consent that gives the appearance of participation while concentrating power at the top.

This idea echoes critiques from across the ideological spectrum. Noam Chomsky has long argued that democracy in the West is manufactured, with media, education, and policy designed to limit the scope of acceptable dissent.

Michel Foucault described how power operates not just through force, but through discourse, institutions, and norms — shaping how we think, what we desire, and how we organize.

Antonio Gramsci, an Italian Marxist, wrote about cultural hegemony — the process by which ruling classes maintain power not through coercion, but by shaping the values, beliefs, and norms of society.

In this framework, democracy becomes a mechanism for stabilizing elite control, not challenging it. People are given choices within a narrow framework, often between candidates or parties that agree on the fundamental policies of globalization, deregulation, and technocratic governance.

OP is definitely part of the soft power control mechanisms that exist in our system. He’s definitely a paid part of our system. Or potentially a brainwashed idiot co-opting concepts that are antihuman.

Now, hopefully this thread can go live it’s pathetic, end and rot into the archive.

>>510722671
>muslims have had polygamy for milllenia and they have higher trust societies
Lol. You have never been to a Muslim country. They are filled with scam artists trying to rip everybody off.

>>510730618
>going to the tourist traps
even white countries tourist traps are the same

>>510723805
>>510724147
Medieval Western Europe was peak civilization you backwater retards

>>510726867
That's not his wife and those aren't his kids

>>510731060
yeah that's his now ex wife and his cuck adopted kids

>>510730747
If you aren’t a paid informant that’s part of the soft capture mechanisms that exist to control our society hopefully you learned something. Based on your original topic you haven’t figured out the food, drugs, religion, cultural, reproductive, or any other significant esoteric phenomena in our modern world. You’re probably a drug and porn addict with no prospects trying to drag everyone in your low IQ paradigms. Either way you’re pathetic and should get your life together.

>>510722429 (OP)
Animal nature makes you seek other mates. Being human allows you to say no to your brain.

>>510722671
>higher trust society
Is that why theyre always raping and killing each other?

>>510731225
they are killing each other because america supports terrorist groups with weapons to destabilize their countries

>>510722429 (OP)
Because you end up committing child abuse more easily. Are you really that stupid? You think having fast and loose sex without taking responsibility creates a good environment for your kids or your neighbors kids?
>>510722671
>muslims have had polygamy for milllenia and they have higher trust societies
lmao, they're united in collecting western gibs at most. Otherwise they're peak definition of chronic incel uprisings. True bros don't hog the pussy, nor do they let it go wherever it pleases when horny. That might be too nuanced for a nonwhite to understand.

>>510725555
How boring. Just buy a whore if thhats your belief. Why bother with a wife or even mistress?

>>510725416
Yet all his kids are wildly successful. I work for a few rich people like this. My boss whos 50 just employed his half brother whose 23

>>510731219
The phenomenon is evolutionary and keeps the male counterpart “battle ready” for the reproductive family system. This maintained fitness level keeps the female grounded and ready for reproduction. This leads to healthily competitive monogamous populations. Similar phenomena exists with all human relationships. Loyalty doesn’t have permanence, it must be constantly reforged. This is human nature.

>>510727094
Sounds like you're a joyless cunt that could get by with a warm bagel.

>>510728932
>imagine being monogamous to a western roastie after the carouse

Thats not monogamy, retard. That's being a cuckold.

>>510722429 (OP)
>human nature
Civilization and society are against human nature. These fucking animals can live in the filth they create, or live in the dirt.

>>510722429 (OP)
shes so ugly

>>510724294
>Except theres only so much nobility, and theyre inbred retards.
You're a brown marxist.

>>510730808
>Medieval Western Europe was peak civilization you backwater retards
Are you dyslexic? That's not the topic being discussed.

>>510722429 (OP)
Because you need uniform bricks to build a strong wall.
No society has ever thrived under rules of "do whatever tf you want lol"

>>510731819
Whiter than you, Abdul bloody bitch basterd

>>510731931
hilarious because elites are never bound by the rules of the common man

roman elites had harems of underage girls

>>510724196
You are a jeet virgin.

>>510731931
>females are the gatekeepers of sex
Opinion discarded.
Straight White men are the gatekeepers of everything.

>>510731978
And that sort of degenracy is ok when its confined to a small minority of people. But you can't have the average peasant chad hoard women, or 90% of the men will walk away

Just like we're currently witnessing. How do you not understand that, Paco?

>>510722429 (OP)
I have noticed a staggering amount of men cheating on their wives/partner more and more over the years. You pathetic incels all pretend all women are “whores” and “unfaithful” but I’ve never met or heard of the woman in my social sphere who’s cheated on their man. Every single time it’s the man being caught on dating apps and fucking women or buying escorts. Just yesterday I heard of yet another person in my sphere who got caught having sex with an escort, they both had 3 kids together. The betrayal from men knows no bounds. You all pretend women are the problem but really it’s you porn obsessed cooming losers who can’t control your lust. Fuck all you man whore pigs. Absolutely shameless. And you will burn in a lake of fire for cheating on your partners. God won’t forgive you no matter how much you pray for forgiveness.

>>510732127
I'm a happily married white man, Abdul.

>>510732240
so why do kikes dominate basically every white country?

>>510732277
Based and truthnuked. You cant have whores without chads willing to cheat.

>>510732354
Your president is jewish.

>>510732416
and you're indian

What a loving couple

>>510732277
There strong correlations with high IQ with established causality for monogamous individuals, regardless of religion, or children after a certain age. Regardless of probability of being alone without a partner once partner, high IQ people tend to mate for life. It must be established that psychopathy and sociopathy must be first ruled out from the high IQ individual for these trends to fully establish.

>>510722671
Name one muslim nation that you'd like to inhabit.
Indonesia would probably be my preferred option and it would still be a big downgrade over any western country.

>>510731978
Fair point, 99% of people need to behave themselves for society to thrive.
But the Roman leaders who mostly kept busy with sex and other pleasures were typically the worst of the bunch.

>>510732240
Not since British civilization became the standard for the western world.
The era of wearing suits, sipping tea and greeting m'lady marked the point when white men lost their balls and were ruled over by women.
That's why women fetishize that old British stuff so much, much like how men fetishize the masculine Roman empire.

>>510732668
>aRe
;)

>>510732740
oman

>>510732740
the roman empire accepted nudity
it was christianity which completely cucked the west

>>510722429 (OP)
I believe we should do what the Romans did. It should be socially acceptable for a married man to have a bit on the side. We have high sex drives and crave variety.

>>510732354
Because we failed to gatekeep them, so we caught a nasty case of christkekkery, which gave them the permanent key.
Codreanu is right: "A nation has the jews it deserves."

>>510732866
>I’m going to give you some advice.

When you have strong feelings about any topic, that requires you to form a binary opinion about a topic. This could be a situation where you either have to do something or not do something, believe something or not believe something, etc.

I’d like you to assign “yes” and “no” to a coin with two unique different faces. For example the face side would be yes and tails would be no. You can choose whatever side to assign yes or no that suits your fancy.
The next time that you have strong feelings about a topic that requires you to take action, regardless of the action, I want you flip your coin and then just do whatever the coin says.

You will probably end up in a much better place in life -if you follow this advice. Just make sure if whatever the action is, is to hurt someone else or yourself you keep flipping the coin to again until you don’t take that route. Other than that, you should be on to a much better enjoyable life! You should really let go of the control problems.

>>510722429 (OP)
Monogomy isn't instinctual, but it is beneficial. It's something all humans recognize as a necessity for a civilized society on a conscious level, but it's not something we agree with on a subconscious/biological level.

>>510727094
So... You got a whore? Good for you!

>>510723047
This is also why the nogs chimp out but only in white areas

>>510723562
Yeah this exists to protect Chads too. An easy way to get women is just to raid Chad’s harem. As long as you had enough men, you could just kill Chad and take his shit. This is where the eunuchs known as law enforcement started to appear. Traitors that have no skin in the game that are just there to protect people who refuse to be part of civilization like Chad.

>>510722529
Christianity is 2,000 years old and not going anywhere. Seethe more faggot.

>>510732740
>ruled over by women.
No such thing. Men are simply humoring women and pretending that they are in charge.
But yes, the "gentleman" is peak simping and gives women delusions of grandeur.

>>510734926
>this exists to protect Chads too.
I don't know what you're referring to by "this".
>As long as you had enough men, you could just kill Chad and take his shit.
Well then you're an even bigger chad, which reinforces my argument that chad's harem is a natural phenomenon.
But stealing women who have already been broken in by another chad is a suboptimal strategy when you can just acquire your own from their fathers.

>>510735538
>Christianity is 2,000 years old and not going anywhere.
It certainly is. It is migrating from White to non-White people. Statistically, you are brown.

>>510725163
let me ask your mother

>>510722671

I knew the mexico flag was a sandnigger

>>510724196
>no shared life experience
40 year old female hands wrote this.

it's not a made up rule it's a desire in humans to think their counterpart is loyal. when you get into an accident, you want to know she is not sucking someone's dick as you are trying to call and reach her.

of course no one cares and everyone does what they want, typical of normals. and they rightfully cheat on each other constantly then cry about it.