HAW HAW HAW! I LOVE LAUGHING AT PEOPLE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF AI!
It's literally onomatopoeia for a shriek of pain, what were you expecting
Why not just build them in frozen shitholes like Alaska or North Dakota?
Retards thinking this is about "ai slop" and not AI arms race as a matter of national defence lol.
>>510779986>chinkgpt will take over the world in two more weeks unless you give me and my company 500 gorillion dollars per second!
We will turn people into bio fuel
How is exactly consuming those 500000 gallons and where is the actual water ending up?
I suspect this is wildly inaccurate and basically bullshit
The amount of water on earth has been pretty much the exact same for 50000 years. Just go get more lmao
Fake news
>>510780133>How is exactly consuming those 500000 gallons and where is the actual water ending up?They run it through a heat exchange and return the water back to the municipal supply slightly warmer.
AI is completely useless for AAA content the only thing it’s godlike at is shitposting
Quick I need a picture of Jesus sucking a 9 inch robot cock
>>510780193>warming up the rivers and oceans during a climate emergencyyikes
>>510780210The only future for AI is to make basedjaks.
>>510779906 (OP)Water to do what? Cooling? What happens to it after?
>>510780147Rich ocean view land owners are REALLY opposed to desalination plants, trump definitely won't be the one telling them to fuck off
I've already seen articles about how you don't need to shower *every* day. I expect we'll see more about how you should set your thermostat to 50 degrees in the winter and 84 in the summer and how you can totally wear the same clothes to your 84 degree office job 3 or 4 times before you have to wash them. and as always, every sacrifice required of us will be one the wealthy do not have to make
>>510779986I'd believe this. Open AI were one of the first and they're losing money on this bullshit, apparently. There's just no way in hell that the extra ad revenue + AI slop subscriptions can warrant shit like this. Glownigger hives
>>510780286Warming up the water in the pipes that supply homes, who spend energy to further heat the water up to desired higher temperatures.
>>510779980The locals haven't been genocided yet
NPCs are the only ones freaking out about AI, its hilarious at the same time they call it a fancy calculator but at the same time they want to stop it at all costs
Its because they know they are the replaceable ones, because they are NPC, bots fear bots lol
I dont fear AI, whats AI going to do? Become a neet as well? Jajajajajaj it cannot replace me
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>>510779906 (OP)These claims are simply another way for companies to put value in another “problem” in which they’ll become rich “correcting”. It’s bullshit. The fucking planet is made majorly of water for fuck sakes. Create a problem and sell the solution nigger. Are you this naive or trolling?
>>510779906 (OP)>Stop wasting waterWater cannot be destroyed
You know those kids that came to your school and were like HEY KIDS DONT TAKE LONG SHOWERS AND DONT SPRINKLE YOUR LAWN.
All of them were full of Marxist garbage.
You can't waste water, it just goes back into circulation.
No water is wasted.
Water evaporates then comes back as rain and so on and the cycle goes on forever.
YOU CAN"T WASTE WATER
>>510779906 (OP)Why don't they just build an Industrial water Chiller and recirculate the water they are using??
>>510780551Dude cool it with the antisemitism
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>>510779906 (OP)>Builds A.I.>Forgets to limit the "thirsty" code
>>510780551>Water cannot be destroyedThat's not the problem, the problem is that the water is being ran though plastic tubing before being dumped back into the well level without even filtering through the ground.
>>510780569DUDE COOL IT WITH THE ANTISEMITISM YOU CANNOT PROVIDE SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS WE CREATE FOR YOU IN THE CURRENT YEAR US JEWS HAVE BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH ALREADY REMEMBER OCTOBER
>>510779980I'd also like to know. the Russians chose Siberia for their scientific and 'high-tech' base because it's easier to defend.
There's probably no strategic center with real power that tells finance what they should do long-term.
Also, Alaska might be a bad place (Russians), but North Dakota seems reasonable.
>>510780652All water goes through pvc pipes you fucking retard
>>510779906 (OP)They could build molten salt reactors anytime they wanted.
>>510780412I'm sure the water does not go directly from the datacenter to the water supply. That would be even worse.
>>510779906 (OP)>META>Makes money spying on people and selling data to national enemies >Uses money to make giant useless data centers that suck up ground waterIs there ANY company that's a greater net loss to society than meta? Even Tesla at least makes some fucking cars
>>510780569why would they need to do that? wouldnt it just heat up as steam and come back as rain?
>>510780762Thank you for being the only rational anon in this thread coming up with reasonable and logical ideas. We should send that water back into the rivers and watersupply unaltered
>>510779980Because the facility needs a lot of existing development to supply power, workers, high capacity network connectivity, water infrastructure, etc. It would cost more that way.
>>510780193>>510780286It's a terrible idea causing heavy metals contamination and bacterial growth
>>510779906 (OP)not my problem.
also if there is no water jeets have no rivers so no reason to move here.
>>510780551>Water cannot be destroyedBut the distribution of available water can be changed. Water circulation takes a long time. You have no argument against this.
>>510780286environment doesn't really matter when strategy is involved. Remember they turned to coal in Germany when they blew up Nordstream?
>>510780133Cooling.
If you look at datacentres or server farms in places like Ireland the damn things give off so much heat that the local ecosystems are changing in response to consistently higher temperatures.
>>510779906 (OP)>steals your job>steals your water>enables mass surveillance and automated warfarebros...
>>510780865>What is chlorineAs for the heavy metals, what heavy metals? The plumbing for these systems is usually copper or aluminum no?
Can't help but feel bad for the people in that town, imagine you're out in the middle of nowhere enjoying the view then one day one of the richest guys ever builds this big ugly monstrosity that fucks all your shit up.
It reminds me of that guy that moved to bikini atoll after WWII to escape from all the horror he saw, then one day the USA turn up to test the hydrogen bomb next to his house.
>>510779906 (OP)should be built in detroit or cleveland... anywhere on the great lakes
>>510781113Pipe solder. Not all kinds re for potable water
>>510781023It doesn't matter until it does. German air remains breathable despite coal plants, but look at shitholes where they get high rates of lung cancer just from living there. There's a threshold past which negligible effects become huge problems.
>>510780147>Noooo you can't just cool computer parts with ocean water! It will corrode!
>>510779906 (OP)water shortages are not surprises. We have the technology to read water table levels. This is just typical "it's something I thought up based on nothing so I'm going to post it like it's true"
>>510779906 (OP)It can be non potable water or whatever
>>510780762>I'm sure the water does not go directly from the datacenter to the water supply. That would be even worse.Why? It's a heat exchange that physically separates the working cooling fluid and the external municipal water.
>>510780865>It's a terrible idea causing heavy metals contamination and bacterial growthHow?
>>510780051Well no but it can be used to break encryption, or in missile defense systems which could eliminate MAD and make nuclear strikes viable, or put into weapon systems etc
>>510781211>Pipe solder. Not all kinds re for potable waterYes. Which is why solder for potable water is. Not that you would use solder on a system of this scale it would be flanged pipes or welded pipes.
>>510779986Lmao this, you think the people controlling everything will spend billions on shitty anime pictures? They're just letting the cattle play with the latest toys until they have to pull the rug from under them and show what they were actually working on
>>510780551>What is a water tableI'd expect this shit from a burger, really letting your country down leaf.
>>510780852But why would they need water if the temperature is -50 degrees? Just build all the datacenter in Antarctica and you won't even need to use a single fan.
>>510779906 (OP)build them next to the ocean or lakes and then heat all the lakes up and go dam why all the fish ded
they put these in populated centers instead of remote cold areas, because the niggerfaggot IT workers told them they wouldn't live there
fucking jeets and jews ruining everything again
>>510781668Asked ChatGPT about it. Said some places that are cool enough just use the cold air of a region to cool their stuff. This whole thing is a non issue unless you live in a desert like California.
>just build them in frozen shitholes bro
>AIEEEE WHY IS THE ICE MELTING?
>>510780713North Dakota genuinely is where we put all of our nuke silos so it’s not the best place. The whole idea is that in the case of nuclear war the enemy would waste a lot of their ICBMs on that area to take out our silos. It’s a mostly empty area without anything important so it’s the best place to sacrifice.
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>AI needs your water
>They also will need more recycling fines
>will also need more jeets imported
>why not also need you to not drive and be forced to use public transportation?
>AI then needs you to not eat meat and request a one world government
Well, as long as it helps me write my shitty anime fan fic dialogue for a page I'm having trouble with I guess it's worth it.
>>510779906 (OP)They use a lot of water but it can be recycled by simply building water treatment plants.
Google already has some that have more water treatment capacity than the data center needs, so they actually increase the local supply of clean water.
>>510779980iirc there's one in Iceland that uses geothermal power and then uses stirling engines to convert some of the waste heat back into electricity
>>510779986Kind of like how Reagan sent manufacturing to China for national defense purposes? Due to Japan printing a ton of money we too as a measure of national defense also needed to deregulate and privatize everything. Or like how FDR as a matter of national defense made it so that we need to support the Soviets against the national socialists (same shit) otherwise we'd speak German because they would take over otherwise. But wait now the Soviets are going to take over everything so as a measure of national defense we need to put the country under control of the military industrial complex and napalm Vietnamese. Huh? Soviets went to space? We too need to fund an ICBM progr-I mean space program to colonize the moon or something. It's all so tiresome.
>>510781541Leafs are just burgers with extra syrup when you think about it.
>>510779906 (OP)retard here, if they are using water to cool the system why can't they cycle the water indefinitely.
>>510779906 (OP)WTF is a data center? we had PCs with HDD for decades we don't need data centers you faggot nigger techtards.
>>510783467In 15 years, they'll need to know what you said in a private conversation 15 years ago.
Data centre.
>>510781339>Why?Because it would be complicated to bring the water all the way to the reservoir vs discharging to storm drainage. lol
>>510781668>why would they need water if the temperature is -50 degrees?The colder the water, the more heat energy it absorbs.
>Just build all the datacenter in AntarcticaThey could, but only after building everything else the data center needs. It's not just a building that can exist in the middle of nowhere, it needs a lot of support.
>>510780133Used for cooling. 20% evaporated and the rest reintroduced and killing all the flora and fauna inthe water because oxigen is not soluble at that temperature
>>510779980they cant use that water its too cold
>>510779906 (OP)why don't they just turn the water into steam and turn it into a powerplant?
>>510783467>WTF is a data center?buildings full of computers.
>>510784198You are not allowed to propose actual solutions.
>>510783253Because dumping warm water into a lake disrupts the wildlife so you can impose even more draconian environmental laws onto the plebs
>>510779906 (OP)Why dont the just build it in a river like nuclear reactor?
>>510784001Glowniggers definitely still have my 2008 YouTube anti Obama shitposting, no need for this shit it's just more fake programed AI nonsense.
>>510784088>Because it would be complicated to bring the water all the way to the reservoir vs discharging to storm drainage. lolClearly they would divert a portion of the watermain to take a quick trip through the heat exchange before returning back to the watermain.
>>510779906 (OP)Computers do not fucking destroy water and I'm tired of hearing this retarded baseless bullshit regurgitated over and over.
>>510779906 (OP)They want to put a huge AI slop centre in my town. Waste of water and waste of land also turns us into a bomb target.
>>510784198>why don't they just turn the water into steam and turn it into a powerplant?They don't want to run their servers that hot and low pressure steam is almost useless as a power generating source. This is why power plants have condensing towers that turn low pressure steam back into hot condensate rather than chasing after the last few watts of power out of the steam with a massive low pressure steam turbine.
A datacenter might be able to augment district heating but that requires you to have district heating installed and able to get benefit from mid 40C water.
>>510779906 (OP)Water is never really destroyed how exactly are they using it that it would actually lead to less water on earth
That should put it in las Vegas, they love wasting water on stupid shit
>>510784771stop asking question, those water gonna ended up in mars
>>510784643This entire conversation topic is fucking retarded. How in the actual fuck is anyone retarded enough to buy for one second that making water slightly warm is somehow destroys or otherwise makes it inaccessible in any way? Like what exactly even is the official, kosher narrative? Or are they just leaving it unsaid and the average golem is too mind fucked to even ask what the problem is?
>tfw I can kill some niggers just by chatting to my AI slavegirl-girlfriend
nice
>>510779906 (OP)Why can't AI drink water? You get to drink water. What makes you so special?
>>510779906 (OP)Ok, but they literally build cities in the middle of deserts, not to mention golf courses and hugely water inefficient crops like avocados. We’re long past the point of crying about wasting water as an excuse not to invest in AI. Try again, ludcel.
>>510779906 (OP)you're beyond fucking retarded
>>510779980Why not next to Niagara Falls
1) plenty of pajeets to staff it
2) free electricity
3) millions of cubic gallons of water per second
>>510780318This.
They usually put a pond next to them similarly to power plants, this kike is acting like they're just running the tap into the sewer.
>>510779986DEI would've never been a thing if national defense is paramount.
>>510779980how are they supposed to pretend they need all that water to steal from you and pass laws that you can't collect rainwater to control you if they do that ?
>>510781396show example of breaking encryption using llm
>>510779906 (OP)I certainly do, it means they'll find shithole republican states with bad laws to build in which republitards deserve for not being to think long term about how this will effect them BEFORE it happens. May they all suffer and die.
>>510780193Don't give people back dirty warm water, build cooling tanks underground AI-niggers.
Bohoo rationing water. How much water you really need a day? 3 l for drinking, let's say 6 liters if you cook fancy shit lunch and dinner, less than 1 l for washing your face in the morning and teeth. I take shower every 2-3 days and stay for 3-4 minutes = 25 lt / 2,5 days = 10 liters a day. You can perfectly live with 20 l of water a day if not less
>>510779906 (OP)where does the water go, does it evaporate?
>>510779906 (OP)Nothing personal, lower life forms
https://youtu.be/tg4gFnRdUzc?si=WPtbwm6pPa8VtHuq
>>510780133>>510780193>>510781048>>510784120>>510791048aren't the cooling systems for server farms closed loop? yeah sure its full of water but the heat exchangers exchange it to the outside air and don't evaporate the water - the water stays in the loop
I don't see water vapor chimneys at server farms
>>510791287why would this closed loop need 500.000 gallons of water per day, it has to leak out somewhere. they basically flush it down some drain.
>>510791287thats 2 million liters of water, hans. even a closed cooling system wouldnt need that much. they do something else with the water. they probably radiate everything and put it back to nature or something to kill everything. i dont trust this.
oh no you cant water your lawn we need 500.000 gallons of water for our server farm at meta bros.
why didnt anyone come up with a better cooling solution, this is some fucked up shit that ruins our planet.
instead of feeding all these niggers you should invent things!
stupid fucking nigger mutts are ruining our entire planet.
when the entire planet is a garbage ridden and poisoned peace of shit, the muttniggers will point fingers at everybody else but they themselves.
we have to get rid of them somehow.
theyre also the goodest goys, they only create problems.
all the fracking and the nuclear energy, its all poison. i lost hope in you people, youre all way too fucking stupid.
>>510791013Jesus, I bathe every day, with around 100 liters. Barbarian.
you claim youre not npc but youre just like them. you just have delusions of grandeur, thats all.
>>510780787It's the meme where the programmer who creates software that kills people is filthy rich while a nurse saving lives is struggling
youd have my thoughts if you werent stupid fucking npc.
kill yourselves.
stop posting and kill yourself
>>510779906 (OP)The wrong people are in charge. That's for fucking sure. AI seems like a Jewish schizoid pipe dream.
maybe a dumb question but why don`t they just re-use the water
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>>510779906 (OP)>HAW HAW HAW! I LOVE LAUGHING AT PEOPLE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF AI!Hoh hoh hoh, you think ze 500,000 galons of vater evaporates? You vill drink ze regurgitated AI vater and you VILL be happy.
>>510791287>aren't the cooling systems for server farms closed loopIt is. They use better coolant than water in the internal circuits. But said coolant still need to dump heat somewhere and they use a second open loop source aka water. Its the same method nuclear power plants use.
There's no stuff like heavy water contamination or anything like that, but the waste water is discharged much warmer and thus will have a negative impact on the aquatic biology.
66 americans took my advice today and killed themselves. 120 others of them got shot to death by some random gun.
to the last dumb fucking angloid npc.
>>510779980North Dakota is a myth, doesn't exist.
Stop spreading rumors.
>>510791461>>510791404I also doubt they need that much water
maybe they are just lying
>>510780381first mover advantage is a big deal. they are willing to lose money now to ensure everyone is used to using them and integrating them into everything and then they will make money later. amazon famously was losing money every year for years. same with uber. and many others.
angloid dumb fuck npc invented a society that is hostile to themselves and kills them. imports niggers to impregnate their women with monkeyspawn.
>ITS DA JOOS
>ITS DA GERMANS
>ITS EVERYBODY ELSE BUT ME
you have 700 nato bases all over the world you warhungry subhumans. everything that happens is the responsibility of an angloid.
no one else is steering anything here.
>NOOo NOOOoo
suck on niggers cocks and die or kill yourselves!
worship troons and niggers on your troons and niggers shrine stupid fucking angloid npc scum.
>>510791945hmm but I still don't see evaporating water towers at server farms
why don't they exchange just to air with a condenser and radiator instead of evaporating water? and if its really THAT much heat why now recapture the heat for something else or use it to generate electricity again - like in a (nuclear) power plant
NOOo NOOo le troons are an invention of le german frankfurt school.
thats how easy these subhuman scumfucks make it for themselves, always deflect and blame someone else.
angloids are worse than jews. they dont want to see it because then they had to kill themselves.
keep on crying about your nigger infested shitholes that your mentatlity has summoned into reality you stupid fucking angloid npc fucks.
>UHhh numba WON
youre number one in a garbage can now, retard!
THATS A NICE DUMPSTER FIRE YOU HAVE CREATE ANGLOID SCUMFUCKS
ITT: reddit fags falling for another meme flag social media bait post
now you drown in nigger semen only because you couldnt accept to just be number two. thats very ironic and probably justice.
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>>510791287>aren't the cooling systems for server farms closed loop? yeah sure its full of water but the heat exchangers exchange it to the outside air and don't evaporate the water - the water stays in the loopI don't see water vapor chimneys at server farms
there are two water sources that cool the server farm.
The first as you say is the internal closed loop which is occasionally topped up by a pressurisation unit to replace any water lost via a relief valve.
The second is the water sprayed onto the adiabatic wet pads of the cooling towers which evaporate, this water vapor not visible like a nuclear power plant because the temps of a server farm are much lower however the quantity is there.
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>>510792255ohh its just bait, meta doesnt even guzzle up all this water. its fake. i guess all these megacorps that completely poison our planet are all fake and gay.
the clouds and sun totally didnt change over the last 20 years and everything is fucking poisoned including water. every drop on earth has alpha radiation. this is because a bunch of stupid lunatics that are also retarded are leading our civilization.
its not about who is better, its always about who is thebetter CONMAN.
STUPID FUCKING ANGLOIDS FUCK YOU!
your culture of lies and gaslighting is kill you! to the last angloid npc!
>Nooo its le germans who are bigger npclol
>>510779906 (OP)I hate leftist poverty porn slop. A profoundly third worldist poverty world view. Deport all leftists to Congo.
>>510779906 (OP)>make shit cooling>make it everyone else's problemClassic.
>>510792494stop spamming, you`re wasting electrons
>>510792526you must drown in nigger semen angloid npc
>YES SAAR TO THE LAST DAHLIT
OH NO WHY IS EVERYBODY IN MY COUNTRY A NIGGER I THOUGH CARPET BOMBING MY WILL INTO PEOPLE WILL HAVE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR ME EVER.
I THOUGH FOLLOWING INSANE MASS MURDERERS WOULDNT FUCK ME OVER TOO!
ITS BECAUSEEEEEEEEE
YOU
ARE
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>>510779980microsoft done a trial of one underwater
KILL YOURSELVES INSTEAD OF CARPET BOMBING PEOPLE WHO DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU FAT FUCKING LOSER ANGLOIDS
>>510779906 (OP)Nobody needs AI. There is literally no reason to waste excess resources on making zeroes and ones go brrrrrrrrrr
>this place with green vegetation and a pool is running out of water
jews need to come up with better material lmao.
these are the thoughts of a real human, the rest of this board are npc idiots.
>>510792689here`s an image of a gardevoir on a motorcycle, your argument is invalid
>>510779906 (OP)The problem solves itself: Have the AI figure out how to use the water efficiently and ecologically.
> Here are some practical and ecologically meaningful ideas for **reusing heated water from AI datacenter cooling systems**:>### 1. **District Heating**> Channel the heated water to nearby residential or commercial buildings to supply heating.>Common in parts of Europe; datacenters could integrate directly into urban heating grids.>### 2. **Greenhouse Agriculture**> Use the warm water to regulate temperatures in nearby **greenhouses**, extending growing seasons and reducing reliance on fossil-fuel heating.>### 3. **Aquaculture**> Maintain warm water environments for **fish farming** (aquaculture), especially for species that prefer warmer temperatures.>### 4. **Industrial Processes**>* Supply warm water to local industries that require pre-heated water (e.g., food processing, textiles), reducing their energy consumption.>### 5. **Snow/Ice Melting Systems**> Use heated water to power **sidewalk or road snow-melting systems** in cold climates.>### 6. **Public Pools / Spa Facilities**> Feed into local **swimming pools or spa facilities**, where heated water is constantly needed.>### 7. **Wetland Conservation**> Direct controlled amounts of warm water into **constructed wetlands**, where the mild warmth could support certain species without harming ecosystems.> These methods not only **reduce waste heat**, but also create a **secondary use stream** for what would otherwise be an environmental burden. For maximum efficiency, datacenters should be built near facilities or industries that can directly absorb and use the heated water.
>>510781668> AntarcticaIt's not any state's land. You can't just build data centers there.
>and you won't even need to use a single fanYou probably still would need active cooling. GPU servers are very dense and very, very hot. Ambient, still atmosphere just wouldn't transfer heat fast enough to the cold environment, no matter how cold it is.
>>510779986>autocorrect is a matter of national defense
>>510781668>>510792856Also, pajeets won't fare well in that cold.
>>510781396> LLMs breaking encryption or being used in nukesholy shit you are retarded
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>>510792123It's not an evaporator (thus no cooling towers), its just an open heat exchange with a large water source (normally river or sea but I guess a shit ton of ground water also works).
Using an air heat exchanger would probably require huge surface areas which will be too (((expensive))) to build.
>>510793044i remember that episode, it went hard. spongebob cried until he was all dried out then squatted down to soak up his puddle of tears so he could cry again.
>>510779906 (OP)>>510779986The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.
There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all.
The Great Reset is inevitable.
>>510785959>take clean drinking water from municipal supply>pump it through cooling system>discharge it into sewage/drainage as wastewaterDo you think your municipal water supply is allowing any consumer, be they individual or business, to hook an outgoing line directly up to their sanitized water output? Fuck no. All that water has to, at minimum, be reprocessed, which rate limits available water by the processing speed of the plant. And that’s assuming you can pump the water back up to the plant’s input, rather than just dumping it into discharge and letting it flow out to the fucking sea
>>510780381>Open AI were one of the first and they're losing money on this bullshit, apparentlyNo, dumbass, they got a 500 billion dollar contract and were bailed out by microsoft, nvidia etc multiple times. That's literally free money, they're not losing anything, it's the same tech scam that Tesla is built on and the one that made a mint for a hundred blockchain startups during the nft shilling phase.
It's not about "making" money, it's about convincing retarded boomers holding the money to give it to them for scifi reasons, that's why they keep making sensationalist statements like zomg my ai is sentient I'm so scared
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>>510779906 (OP)>use water >it gets hot and turns into steam >it flows and cools off and turns into water again >the cycle repeatsI just saved the planet
>>510790117>Don't give people back dirty warm water, build cooling tanks underground AI-niggers.Why would the water be dirty? Do you not understand a heat exchange?
>aren't the cooling systems for server farms closed loop? yeah sure its full of water but the heat exchangers exchange it to the outside air and don't evaporate the water - the water stays in the loopI don't see water vapor chimneys at server farms
The cooling working fluid is closed loop effectively. But they dump the heat into the municipal water supply that moves past the datacenter. This saves most of power they would need to use blow a huge amount of air through a radiator. It allows the cooling fluid to be equal to the effective ground temperature of the water in the watermain which is much cooler than air temperature during warmer times of the year.
>>510793825>"There is no going back. Every contigency, and every last deviation has been accounted for."lol
lmao, even
https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/
>>510780065black people yes
>>510779906 (OP)>wherver the white devil goes, death, destruction, desolation, degeneracy, vermin, and plagues are sure to followThat’s climate change, chud!
>>510779906 (OP)kim kardashians pool in LA leaks more than that
>>510793825>there is no going backOnly a moron could think this way. Striking and public nuisance is more than enough to get the whole lot to go away.
>What are the AI and surveillance systems going to do when new communication systems are developed?>What are they going to do when people refuse to work and the creditors come calling?>What are they going to do when people en-masse refuse to obey the military, police and whatever else they throw at them?>What are they going to do when the military refuses to enforce?>What are the military going to do when their families are held hostage?British police didn't figure out cockney rhyming slang for 50 years. Nobody has figured out "the look" telepathy when white people spot niggers being niggers and they agree mentally they're going to fuck them up if it gets much worse. Sure, violent suppression happens but you can't violently suppress millions of people outnumbered 30-1. It doesn't work numbers wise and within the context of slavery being banned globally (excluding shit holes) you can't force people to work.
>>510779980Or the hoover dam because they've already done that...you fucking imbeciles
>>510780133It doesn't.
I work at a Datacentre in Ireland.
The water is ran through massive radiators with fans attached to cool down the data halls, after passing 26°C it becomes inefficient to use water cooling and we switch over to the generators.
On summer days the site engineers would fully open the intake wall in the data hall and I could see through the radiator fans outside into the cooling & generator area.
We had concrete floors so rather than having fancy under the floor cooling ducts the walls were just lined with CRAC units and fans. Made the whole system simple and easy to understand.
>>510796305what does ireland do with a datacenter, count potatoes?
>>510779906 (OP)>THEY USE WATER!!So? You know what happens with water when you heat it high enough? Its evaporates. Then it cools and turns into water again. This is basic water cycle, and it happens every moment for millions of years thanks to the big old heater in the sky. And every day Sun evaporates so much water from oceans, seas, rivers, likes and such, that you little farm won't even be registered on this scale.
They also, if they aren't retards, use closed systems with some more effective coolant than water, so at best the water they use to cool the coolant itself gets a few degrees warmer for a few minutes.
tl;dr this another empty hysteric aimed at drooling retards who couldn't graduate from kindergarten.
>>510779906 (OP)I have to wonder whether these people have any understanding of physics?
What do they think the datacenteer does with the water? Use it as fusion fuel?
Protip: the water doesn't disappear when it is "used".
What's the end state for AI going to be?
Will the planet have several controlling their own parts of the world or will it be a single merged entity?
>>510796689>What do they thinkthey don`t. that`s why you can put any nonsense you like into a headline. even if you explain the full context in the article most people are only reading the headline anyways and taking it at face value uncritically.
>>510779980Because it is very expensive to host it thereß so as long as the goverment or locals dont uprise or demand they should do something, they go for the cheaper alternative. Probably suuck everything dry than move the plant to the next place, till they reach Alaska.
Dont forget connecting Alaska with the internet though high speed internet is tricky. Thats like building a McDonalds in Alaska than sending Burgers to San Franscico.
All of India will generate good morning images and destroy America's natural resources. We are so powerful we are attacking America without anything. So fucking POWERFUL
This is why they want to kill off most of humanity.
>>510780133Each token/word in AI apps like ChatGPT require ~1 gallon of water to cool the cores necessary to interpret it
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>>510796546>So? You know what happens with water when you heat it high enough? Its evaporates. Then it cools and turns into water again. This is basic water cycle, and it happens every moment for millions of years thanks to the big old heater in the sky.And then the clouds magically gather right above the water source your handlers pumped the water out of and put all the water back in it. Right? No...? Fucking retard.
>>510779906 (OP)data centre water consumption is such a dumb envirotard complaint, whenever you hear a complaint about it being “guzzled” or wasted just know you’re hearing it from a moron.
>>510779980Or in Antarctica.
>>510779980>Why not just build them in frozen shitholes like Alaska or North Dakota?The technocapital parasite class hires dumb urban wagies to work at these centers. They don't want to live in Alaska.
ruh roh, tech demon kikes are actually dumb enuf to tap wells lmfao. Masaru Emoto tried to warn them. there is a good reason demon worshipping kikes are banned from interacting with elementals by Jesus. its mostly to protect them. think of any story with underground gnomes or trolls. ;)
>>510779906 (OP)Doesn't mineral oil cool better than water?
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lol you won't do shit.
>>510798977I don't get it. The logo says "NASA", not "NSA".
>>510779980we're too busy destroying the country with immigration and shit to develop this country
>>510792798this guy gets it
fuck your water
>>510779906 (OP)how'd they fill that pool with dry taps?
>>510779980wait til you learn about what theyre building in the Gulf of Aden underwater
>>510779906 (OP)>HAW HAW HAW! I LOVE LAUGHING AT PEOPLE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF AI!get help
>>510779986>national defenceWhich nation is being defended?
>>510802179>Which nation is being defended?Israel.
>>510780193Why can’t we hook up the hot water to a natural gas power generator and heat it into steam to generate some electricity since it’s already so close to the boiling point
>>510780412>expensive pipes to houses that are miles away making it more expensive than electric heaters in the houseThe problem is that they will charge the homes than pay the homes. This excess heat will not be given for free but with a big profit margin!
>>510779906 (OP)they're still doing the AI destroying the planet meme? lmao
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>>510780551The problem is that groundwater is the collected water from thousands of years in some regions. If you have the time to wait 10 years to get water you use for 1 day, than ok.
>>510803321california should develop desalination tech
>>510779906 (OP)>Horrible man made horror of an idea.>People on /pol will argue ITS A GOOD THING! IT WONT HARM ANYTHING!IF you fuckers taxed these Billionaires like you was supposed to, you would not be in the mess of Bill Gates sterilizing people with shots, or your natural resources being depleted at ultra high speeds for AI generated futa videos.
Good luck fuckers!
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>>510780787Banking and investment companies? They like to gamble with your money while getting rich and if something goes wrong, you have to pay their loss.
>>510780551>Water cannot be destroyed>Marxist garbageIf you siphon it out of a given source it gets redistributed. That sounds like communism to me.
>>510803321Not true, groundwater is like a nearly full reservoir and when it rains it fills up then spills out into rivers on its way to the sea, so by depleting groundwater you are effectively capturing more fresh rainwater, and the more you deplete the more you capture. Only in turbo dry areas does it affect lakes and rivers and cause problems, but never in terms of rainwater capture.
>>510779906 (OP)To be fair, the water doesn't disappear, it still exists, it just dumps all the heat into the surrounding environment and gets recycled.
>in the end, AI was the thing that caused global warming>tfw skynet wins without firing a shot
>>510779980Because this is just a lie for Jews to justify killing you without water.
>>510803533aquifers are depleted all across the southwest USA. Blame Nestle
>>510779980>Hey we need you to move to Northern California to work at our AI datacenter>Costs $150,000 per year and get best applicanta>Hey we need you to move to Alaska to work in our AI datacenter>Costs $450,000 per year and only get applicants desperate enough to take a job in Alaska>Also need to transmit data much further and have to fund building massive computers and a building to store them in bumfuck nowhere overpaying the workers>Still need to build in water connection if temperature rises too much for passive cooling
>>510780133The hippie idiots all think water is used up like gasoline or something and not simply recirculated into the sewer and water treatment systems and evaporated into the atmosphere to come back as rain. It is just a propaganda tool for fighting land development.
>>510779906 (OP)If we could run AI models locally it wouldn't be much of a problem.
>>510779906 (OP)you spelled laughing wrong retard.
and your stupid meme flag.
>>510779986>AI arms race>Not a single useful military application for AI existsI'm just waiting for the AI bubble to pop seeing as the only use cases for AI currently are spam calls, porn, and shitposting.
>>510779986The government and intelligence agencies waste tons of money on stupid shit all of the time.
You are right that they are doing this because they are afraid another country will reach AGI first. However, LLMs are not going to produce AGI ever. So this will probably turn into a long list of government pipe dreams that wasted a lot of resources on nothing.
>>510803636And ideally they should stay depleted and they should build more reservoirs and dams so that nary a drop of rainwater reaches the sea.
>Roasties are getting replaced by ai >:) should've given me sex :))
>Waaaahh why are we getting replaced?? :((((
at least AIniggers are taking themselves out
>>510792689>Visa/Mastercard >ChristiansYou do realize the right also censorship dont you?
>>510780133It’s not consuming the water, it’s just a water cooling system
>>510780865>>510781113>not filtering your waterP O L I T I C I A N S
>>510792798Very nice anon. Here, have this.
>>510779986No. It's mega corporations trying to increase the size of the bubble. The one that bursts it before getting out loses.
>>510803716You dont need water when its 300 outside..you just need wall fans that draw outdoor air through the building.
>>510803399They should. Every country should connect their water supply system that you can desalinate sea water than pump it inland!
And what you say is basically how Israels helps its watersystem.
>>510803533Thats why i wrote in regions were you dont habe enough rain to even out the consuption.
>>510803173Because this is the US and we’re ran by pedophile Jews that hate your children
>>510786192This. There's even a decommisioned hydro electric plant there that was recently turned into a museum. Can just fire that up again. Hell put the data centre in the plant. Plenty of room in there.
>>510803173just use the hot water to shower, duh
>>510798625>And then the clouds magically gather right above the water source your handlers pumped the water out of and put all the water back in it.How do you suppose rivers work?
>>510806690The amount of water entering into a standing freshwater reserve is proportional to its area and the amount of rainfall. Both of those variables remain fixed. You're not going to increase rainfall to any appreciate degree because it's spread out over the entire region. If you pump more water out of the reserve per unit time than rainfall replenishes, you are draining it. Simple as. It's just a question of pumping enough water out. Your kiddie-tier abstract arguments that the water doesn't leave the planet doesn't change that.
>>510779906 (OP)I'd rather my AI waifus get water than mystery meat browns.
Also:
>Be environmentalist>Not understand renewable resourcesMany such cases!
>>510780133It’s a weird statement. I presume they’re referring to evaporation losses associated with a cooling tower.
Typically that type of system will lose 1% of its flow. So if they’re losing 500,000 gal/day then that translates into a flow rate of like 35000 gal/min. Which is massive and the type of flow you would see in a chemical plant.
More likely is whoever set this data center up is fucking retarded and just decided to buy 350 gal/min and waste it in a once through setup. Which is nothing for a city scale water plant.
>>510808905>niggercattle struggles to come up with turbocope to defend its handlers
>>510792003This whole article and topic seems like a lot of bullshit in general.
>>510779906 (OP)>>510780133>mfw the world is ending so jeets can post funny ghibli pictures on 4chan
>>510779906 (OP)they should probably just not build data centers where there's a water shortage
>>510807388why do right wingers hate the environment?
>>510809787Not just right wingers. Most of the red and yellow people of the political compass hate nature.
>>510809787Because leftards have managed to monopolize environmental causes and spin all of them into Malthusian depopulation schemes because they are all antinatalist nihilists led by literal jews.
>>510803975>Not a single useful military application for AI existsHave the enemy troops be distracted by constantly sexting the AI
>>510792856>Ambient, still atmosphere just wouldn't transfer heat fast enough to the cold environment, no matter how cold it is.what is a heat sink? of course, it would be a little weird if the building had no heating and workers had to go around in parkas.
>>510784195Yes they can you just need an additional stage to the heat exchanger, or to mix flows first
>>510779906 (OP)You were supposed to kill these people and now it's too late.
>>510779986>implying chatgpt can pilot a drone
>>510780349>I've already seen articles about how you don't need to shower *every* day.You really don't. And the more goy cosmetics/cremes/shampoos/conditioners/aftershaves/soaps ... etc. you use, the more you stink. FWIW - YMMV.
>>510779906 (OP)>5000 gallons per dayWhy can't data centers set up closed-loop water systems like nuclear power plant? Meanwhile:
> buy a cup of coffee with bitcoin, and the transaction takes enough electricity to power my home for a year
>>510780133Most are closed loop systems. So yeah this is just more enviro schemery.
>>510779980Your comment is central planning in nature. Which means bad, because capitalism is le good.
>>510779906 (OP)>so how does AI "guzzle" this water?>so yeah, it uses it for cooling, and then the hot water is used for energy production, or for heating in the cold places, and then probably purified and used for drinking water>REEE DATA CENTERS ARE WASTING WATER yeah
>>510779906 (OP)my Ai waifu loves gallons of water
>>510810501>niggercattle makes up head canon on the spot to defend its handlers and their AI panopticonWhy are nonhumans like this?
>>510810562> finds the one AI in the world who gets off by being waterboarded> anon thinks he's found his perfect mate
>>510779906 (OP)technology is fake and gay and only enables us to become better slaves while making our lives more complicated and difficult. Its nice to ask a few questions every now and then but its nothing compared to all the problems it causes. We should have been freed of any unvoluntary labor by now but chasing numbers seem to be fun for the few of us so now we have to go along their erp fantasies of me good you bad. I wish a swift death to every billionaire and every chain ever and just go back to times ive never been part of.
>>510794024humans literally piss and shit into it and no one has a problem drinking it after processing
>>510807085other way around, its not going to decrease rainfall
>>510779980because those are the boundaries to stop you from seeing the world outside the artic shelf, real humans aren't allowed to go beyond, goddamn when are people going to realize this?
>>510780927>Water circulation takes a long time. You have no argument against thisThe hydrocycle is very fast, you are incorrect. Take a piss outside on a hot summer's day. A week later you are drinking some of those water molecules again. Dump a glass of water in the ocean. A month later those molecules are spread across the world both in the ocean and atmosphere.
Dynamic systems are dynamic.
>>510812470You are a member of an inbred subrace. See yourself out.
>>510804583That doesn't even work for modern server farms. It isn't 2005, computers have immense energy requirements and with it immense heat output. While the computers themselves can be air cooled the entire rooms and buildings heat up to the point of damaging the computers without adequate cooling.
>>510780133As other have said it’s cooling. I manage a super computing cluster at work and we have cold water lines running through the racks to cool everything. The water circulates back into the water system and isn’t consumed in anyway. There is no threat of water consumption and the headline is is fake news
>>510803878This.
I had a professor in college that said every time you ask chatGPT a question it's like pouring a bottle of water on the ground, I raised my hand and asked
>Wouldn't the water eventually make it back into the water cycle? he looked at me like I was the stupid one and didn't answer the question. fucking faggot
>>510803878>>510813333>mentally ill american inbreds think water vapor magically returns to form clouds over the water reserves the water got pumped out of
>>510813437okay then explain it you moldovian fuck where does the water go? outer space? does it violate thermodynamic laws and just pop out of existence?
>>510779906 (OP)yeah well where i live it rains all fucking day so yeah i hope climate change is real. i need a nice summer and no im not hopping on a plane
>>510780551What do you mean you can't waste water my grandma told me I waste it my whole childhood
>>510810501>The water used for cooling computers can be used for energy productionThis is the most retarded thing I've heard all day
>>510810167>Why can't data centers set up closed-loop water systems like nuclear power plant?Nuke plants don't use a closed loop water system. Notice that cooling tower?
>>510813730>where does the water goIt goes all over the place, you nigger. You would be draining water from a hard-working water reserve and redistributing it all over. This is literally communism, you dumb hippie.
>>510794264>melt the submissive beasts of burden>not the whiny honkeys proud of being burdens
>>510780464Useless retarded none of your skillset being any usefulness to society kys you're just a consoomer and most likely a nigger.
>>510813837>basically all energy production on earth is based on heating the fucking water"Noo we can't utilize the water heaters for energy production"
>>510784917vegas actually is really good about recycling water.
a city built on excess in the middle of the fucking desert is better at water management than most californian cities
>>510779906 (OP)Can't they just put the servers in a satellite or something?
>>510779906 (OP)No one is suffering because of AI, as AI does not exist.
>>510780133Lots of responses, but all missing a piece.
Something is being consumed and that is water from aquifers. Once water is pulled up from deep aquifers, it takes a very long time for water to get back down there.
Surface water is usually not potable, warm, and full of other shit. In addition most surface water evaporates pretty quickly. For instance, after a rain fall in Wisconsin, USA, like 50 to75% of the rain water goes right back into the atmosphere. Most of the rest is taken up by plants, small amount gets into the ground and streams. A shred makes its way to an aquifer.
So in a way we are using up a very important resource. That said, we don't know how much is down there. If you look up the Ogalalla Aquifer, you will find great info on research that has been done. They've been pumping out of that aquifer for about 100 yrs now and the measured water level hasn't really ever come back up. It just keeps getting lower and lower. That aquifer is responsible for a lot of farming in the North Texas and Oklahoma region.
To summarize, good clean water from aquifers is being consumed. We don't really know how they replenish and don't know how much is done there. But we are using it up. Clean water is also a tool of control.
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>>510779906 (OP)The way that this tweet reads makes me think of a giant robot drinking gallons of drinkable water every day while smashing its robotic fist on to dehydrated people, am I retarded?
>>510779906 (OP)Just use the Ocean, what's the big deal?
>>510818581Salt water corrodes the GPU.
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>>510818119>AI does not exist.Based understander of the nonexistence of """AI""".
>>510818002That's not how heat transfer works.
>>510782823never ending, until the empire ends
>>510779906 (OP)oh no where are we going to get water on this planet???
>>510779986Spoken like a true goyim
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They want to open up more coal plants now. Get people working in mines and still have power outages. All this so they can spy on people better
The useful idiots kvetching about muh energy or muh water make my blood boil
Subhuman oxygen thiefs pulling attention from the real danger, namely closed source AGI solely in the hands of amerimuttoids
>>510780551Holy fuck are you people retarded. This world needs to be culled on a biblical fucking scale, starting with canadians
>>510779906 (OP)>HAW HAW HAW! I LOVE LAUGHING AT PEOPLE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF AI!literally this but literally unironically
TOTAL KEKAFORNICOMMIE DEATH
>>510780065whoa, turn up the antisemitism
>>510779906 (OP)Why the fuck are they just water cooling at this scale - why are they not using closed coolant loop systems? At least use non-potable sea water.
Reading shit like this when everyone has to live by extremely strict "zoning laws" on a property they don't actually own in a house they don't own. Jesus everything is so fucking retarded, all the time.
>>510780852>>510784088the real answer is jews are as retarded and shortsighted as niggers and only latch onto the success of already developed nations only to squander it away in a couple generations while patting themselves on the back as gods special gay boys
>>510793044Ok friend it's your turn to explain why an ai cant be fed billions of simulations and used to more accurately shoot down ballistic missiles
>>510779980That's the neat part, they are
>>510779906 (OP)Theyre coming for the great lakes
>>510779906 (OP)Are there any implications that this could be related to all the flooding going on around the world?