It's time to admit the Southern Wagon was rolling in the right direction. It really baffles me how over the years even right-of-center people across the aisle in the South - not just the internet - have distanced themselves from the Confederacy when even the most normie-tier people at least flew the colors.
Consider:
>the Federal government & union is an undemocratic, tyrannical haemonculus literally held up by dark qabbalists
>CSA was completely red-pilled on the topic of race
>had the most realistic solution to maintaining White Supremacy in the United States
>literally just wanted to leave the Union and be left alone because they realized after decades of trying to maintain control of the Fed that it was pointless
>"But just Drain the Swamp!"
Hey faggot if you drain a swamp, it's entire ecosystem and everything connected to it also dies.
>90% of the South was Old Stock American versus 60% of the Union states
>the entire world recognizes that the Lost Cause is/was Based until very recently, this is clearly the fruits of a psyop I think started shortly before COVID just based on my personal observations
>there were more educated people in Mississippi alone in 1861 than the entirety of the New England states combined
>completely based political theory
>led by some of the biggest and most universally recognized Chads in all of American history
>the South had the longest, most successful white identarian resistance in modern history; there's not even a close second
>historically one of the biggest bastions of White Reactionary thought in the entire United States
So what's the deal, /pol/? What changed? If you're not connected to the Cause by blood, OK I get it. But why all the overt hate?
In closing: take the Dixie-Pill. If you won't, why not? Do you have a better idea?
>"muh Uncle!"
>"muh Fasch!"
Even Based people who are used to freedom aren't going to surrender it no matter how cool the costume they get to wear in exchange is.

>>510784457 (OP)
In Dixie land I'll take my stand
To live and die in Dixie!

>>510784457 (OP)
Come up to Gettysburg if you ever feel like getting some again.

>>510784568
This guy gets it.

>>510784568
This guy understands.

>>510784457 (OP)
Bro, you guys wanted to include Mexico, Venezuela, and every other Hispanic shithole in a big old circle. You were going to be 20% white at most. Probably less.

>>510784697
>>510784568
Sorry for double post.

>cheap nonwhite labor leveraged by elites and jews killed this nation, therefore we need to go back to cheap nonwhite labor leveraged by elites and jews
No thanks

>>510784575
I accept and totally understand standing on your martial heritage my guy, but let's keep it absolutely real: you were wrong. History has played out and proved you wrong.
Do yourself a favor and never look into the Antifederalists. You are going to realize just how prophetic your downfall really was.

>>510784732
What're you talking about? The Golden Circle? That stopped being relevant after 1863. If you really think the Planter Aristocracy was gonna not take control of all these places - which was White - you're delulu.

>>510784858
>it's okay to be wildly majority brown if we're "in control"!
Brown ideology, brown spirit.

>>510784457 (OP)
>meme flag
You're not from the south. Probably not even from America.

>>510784457 (OP)
Southerners are the ultimate goylems and have always been, the CSA was judeo masonic shit. Southerners were the most opposed to national socialism and Hitler. I wish they were all exterminated.

>>510784765
Every based society had a slave caste, even the nation your flag flew for was going to have one. Slavery as it was ennobled and liberated the White man to pursue the finer and martial arts.
Realistically we can't re-implement slavery and I wouldn't suggest it directly. Because the Pro-Slavery guys were just saying, "Hey look we got stuck with this system a hundred years ago and we honestly can't get rid of it without destroying the country, however we do that."
How is that unreasonable?
Also I'm gonna keep it a buck: I have familiarity with Corrections. Niggers are literally happy in prison. I have never seen a Nigger as happy as I've seen him in prison, especially when he's working. Not ever. You contrast him with the White inmates and there's no comparison; you can see their hatred for every indignity no matter how small, the yearn for freedom. Niggers simply do not have that.

>>510784925
I'm whiter than you.
Also: how is keeping the non-whites in their proper place not the right idea? You can't kill them all. That's not possible. You can push them out of a geographic area and contain them at best. That's it.

>>510784960
How is the Rebel Battle Flag ranked the same as shit like Kekistan to you dumbasses? Seriously. How fucking dumb are you?

>>510785053
How did you not learn from Haiti? Is higher profits for megacorps really worth having to endure niggers and their problems?
I don't understand the pro slave mindset at all, it clearly isn't sustainable.
It wasn't even sustainable when whites colonized Africa

>>510784962
>Southerners are the ultimate goylems and always have been
You're actually fucking stupid. Antisemitism was so widespread in the South it was used as a psyop to protect State secrets - read a book.
>the CSA was judeo masonic shit.
It may shock you to know but Masonry isn't monolithic. Albert Pike spent fucking hundreds of pages of his written works espousing Aryan Supremacy. Guess where he's from?
>Southerners were the most opposed to national socialism and Hilter.
Gee I wonder the fuck why the warrior caste of the United States doesn't like Krauts. Maybe it's all the goddamn uboats that were prowling around in the Gulf a fucking decade before we went to war with Germany? No fucking clue.
Accept the fact that Germany made their own bed. Kikes didn't need to do shit to convince Anglos to not like them, they did that themselves - Kikes just capitalized on it. Again: read a book, or seven.
>I wish they were all exterminated
Romans tried, French tried, Papists tried, then later our own cousins tried. None of you made it.
Keep pissing off the Sakkae if you want and see how it works out.

>>510785091
You're brown. You have a brown mind and a brown spirit and want a country that is absolutely overstuffed with brown people like you.

>>510785180
>How did you not learn from Haiti?
Haiti's population disparity and the kind of shit the Frogs did to their slaves made that situation, but the South did learn from the Slave Revolt: they learned what would happen if people like John Brown succeeded and that was part of the insistence that Blacks stay right where they belonged.
Go, again, read a book about Reconstruction. Fuck it, go walk outside. Tell me how the South was proven wrong. I will wait.
I'm not even proposing reinstating slavery as a mandate, I'm just saying defending it was the right idea.

>>510785308
You're the one flying the flag of Melting Pot Multiculturalism at bayonet-point, not me.
Go talk to a Southerner today, especially a vet. They all regret ever serving this Globohomo Empire.

>>510785335
>but the South did learn from the Slave Revolt
No they didn't.
If they had they would have deported them all.
We haven't even learned from it in modern day, we are still importing cheap brown labor for megacorps as was the Southern system.
Only difference is that we use them for industry AND raw resource extraction instead of just raw resource extraction.
With H1B's and illegals slavery is as easy as ever, and is even subsidized by the tax payer, and all it does is hurt the white man, not improve their lives.
I don't want more nonwhites period, slavery isn't the answer, expelling them from the nation entirely is.
Southerners have this romanticism about Dixie sometimes that is irrational

>average southern aryan nationalist

>>510785376
You want Mexico and Venezuela to be part of your country. You have no legs to stand on.

>>510785478
>If they had they would have deported them all
Go read Jefferson's Query XIV in, "Notes on Virginia." Deportation was mathematically and logistically impossible. Even if it was, so many industries had become dependent on almost two centuries of the Peculiar Institution existing - which was introduced by the Empire, and many didn't want it to stay. But they recognized they had to work with reality, not what they actually wanted. It was literally impossible to even kill them all without literally turning the country into Pre-Civilization conditions.
>implying Late Stage Capitalism is the same
We have nothing comparable to American Slavery today going on. This is actually worse: demoralizing Wage Slavery.
Nobody said slavery was the answer, stupid. I said the historic defense of slavery is right. You have no more chance of forcing every Nog back into chains than you do kicking them all out unless they self-deport or killing them all.
>romanticism about Dixie sometimes that is irrational
Oh yeah, NatSocs totally aren't even more irrational.
Your name is probably something obnoxiously Old Stock and you're as American as me but you're shilling for people who wanted to put their boot on your grandpa's face, who was more based probably than either one of us.
Get a fucking grip.
Do you know how easy it is to get Nazi stuff? Who controls the internet and media again?
They're throwing Southern history books in the free bins at public libraries all over my state. The Nazi history books and even Mein Kampf are in no danger of going anywhere.
Does that tell you what (((they))) are really afraid of?

>>510785526
I don't associate with Neo-Nazis and have been famous in many other places for years with locking horns with them over this stuff, so pound sand.
I'll keep Red-Pilling people in real life and watching these types do absolutely nothing but make actually waking people up and organizing them harder. Neo-Nazis are a Kike PsyOp to discredit White Nationalism.

>>510785526
>anti scared

that is it. i finally saw it. the stupidest tattoo ever put to flesh

>>510785580
Go find where in OP I said that, cuck.

>>510785829
This is the Most Literate Prison Nazi, I'm sorry to tell you.

>>510784575
>No you can't just leave the union when you don't like how things are going!
>I HAVE TO BURN STUFF DOWN WHEN I DISAGREE WITH POLITICS
k faggot.

Fucking THINK, anon.
It's beyond easy to access hours of Nazi Edits, literature, merch, etc. and the Jews who we know own everything don't stop you.
Compare that to how the Confederacy and Early America is treated. It's called racist by the Left and out-moded by the Right, both of whom are owned by (((them))).
So doesn't that give you a big fucking clue who they're more worried about?

>>510785824
southern dingo? how tf did i remember that name. rent free ig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPQjTcb5zGM

>>510785765
>Deportation was mathematically and logistically impossible
Yeah yeah yeah, that's what they say about it in modern day too.
I don't give a shit. Man can move mountains, they can get rid of nonwhites too. Could just fill mass graves if they wanted too. Didn't want to lose their precious shekels on a failed investment though.
>We have nothing comparable to American Slavery today going on. This is actually worse: demoralizing Wage Slavery.
It's the same except tax payers have to pay benefits to give to the nonwhites, the owners don't even have to pay for them themselves. Turns out cheap labor devalues labor as a whole.

>Oh yeah, NatSocs totally aren't even more irrational.
No, not really. I'm willing to compromise in the name of stability and sustainability for many things, you guys want a 1:1 recreation of your larp no matter how unrealistic and unsustainable.
>who wanted to put their boot on your grandpa's face
Yeah it totally wasn't a fight Americans picked with Hitler. Hitler didn't give a fuck about America beyond the fact that kikes there influenced European decisions with financial bullying. He didn't care about the American people at all. Partially because we allowed that kikery to happen and go on.

>They're throwing Southern history books in the free bins at public libraries all over my state.
No one except Southerners care about or romanticize the CSA and only because they have this strange aversion to ever criticizing prior leaders who lied to them.
National Socialism simply has a wider appeal and kikes crack down on it way harder.
Hence why saying the CSA was right is less taboo than saying the holocaust didn't happen but should have.
If you want to romanticize it I really don't care, but it is dangerous to the future to imply that that model work ever fucking work ever. It is just as sustainable as the modern demand for cheap nonwhite labor at the expense of everything else, aka not sustainable at all. Short term speculators love it though.

my fave. Also was having connection issues everytime i tried to reply to this thread which i think is yankee interference

>>510786089
This was unintentionally the greatest recruitment ad for the Klan ever made.
It's a shame every Klavern today is a honey pot.
Also that the Klan had well lost the plot by the 1900s.
But I remember all the White guys in my school when we watched this for a Fine Arts class going, "Dude that's fuckin' metal as shit."

>>510786141
>Yeah yeah yeah
>"probably the greatest polymath and statesmen in US history is a dumb cuck, I could fix it better"
Average NATSOC faggot. You actually think your HoI4 hours played should get you a job
>they can get rid of nonwhites too.
Sure we can. But mass genociding whole populations and deportations has actually never worked out in modern western societies for any who have tried them
>muh cheap labor
This is correct. It's also why slaves should've stayed where they were. Because they weren't competing with Whites in various fields for wages.
>No, not really.
You are all actually hypocrites and always are with Southern Nationalists. We're not allowed to be proud of our identity or ape our philosophies, but you get a pass? Why? Most of you aren't even German under the Nuremberg Laws or under Volksich you wouldn't even have full rights, pull the other one.
>you guys want a 1:1 recreation of your larp
No we don't? Not serious people. But all you guys seriously think Wolfenstein is somehow gonna happen if we just make the NSM relevant and win elections.
>blah blah blah Hilter did nothing wrong I've never read a book
Go learn 19th century geopolitical history you absolute dimwit. Germany was very respected by most of the West, especially Britain. A century of the most unjustifiable arrogance and bullying imaginable made the Anglosphere hate them. Hilter played the game wrong and this is why you don't let failed art students run a government.
>He didn't care about the American people at all.
He actually wrote about them quite a bit but you're yet another NatSoc who hasn't read Mein Kampf.
>No one except Southerners care
This is why your Pan-White Unity isn't worth a hill of fucking beans. We're not allowed to be proud of our history, but once again the Germans just get everything right all of the time. I actually like some of you who understand I don't want a fucking Sperg Dictator and we have the same enemies and can cooperate.

>>510786141
>>510786639
>National Socialism has a wider appeal and kikes crack down on it way harder
I can fight Nazi media content so much easier than Confederate stuff. It was not like that a decade ago. You guys are being pushed front and center as the useful idiots you perpetually are.
>it is dangerous to the future to imply that model work ever
How many times do I have to say I'm not for forcing slavery to be re-established.

>>510786258
Based, last free flag of the Southern Nation. I despise First National chuds. They just use it because no one knows it's a CSA flag, but this is the last one we had.

>>510786639
>Average NATSOC faggot. You actually think your HoI4 hours played should get you a job
I don't play those games
>Sure we can. But mass genociding whole populations and deportations has actually never worked out in modern western societies for any who have tried them
Yeah it did, this very nation did it to natives so we could actually develop the land and have hegemony over it. Issue is faggots like you get in the way with their "it's impossible" bullshit excuses.
>This is correct. It's also why slaves should've stayed where they were. Because they weren't competing with Whites in various fields for wages.
But they were. If slaveowners were willing to pay whites instead of hire nonwhite slaves then more whites would have emigrated to America, leading to faster expansion and also better tensions with the North. Politically, economically, socially, and from sustainability perspective, slavery was a shit idea. It worked for Rome because slaves could eventually buy their freedom/be released and most slaves were also fellow Europeans who could eventually integrate once freedom inevitably happened. CSA had zero plans for freed blacks which did in fact happen, and were all too happy to racemix with their slaves.
>We're not allowed to be proud of our identity or ape our philosophies
You can be proud of your fighting prowess and loyalty to your neighbors but your leadership back then was scum that sold you out for profits and lied to you on why, no different than current US leadership.
>No we don't?
Yes you do. The fact you want slavery back is a big reason why. We still fucking have it. Slavery is part of the issue on how Jews are destroying white society.
>Go learn 19th century geopolitical history
Like the time the South thought they could force Europe to intervene on their behalf? Get real. 99% of problems weren't Hitler's fault.
>He actually wrote about them quite a bit
Hardly a priority for him is my point. If we allied with him he would have liked us more.

dixie, the land of white sissies that want to segregate away from bugs they're so afraid of that kill them and their bullshit fragile civilization that bugs eat and destroy kike the particle chipboard jew slop houses of theirs that just rot from moisture while forcing their niggers and mutts to surrender for them to the bugs

>>510786639
>We're not allowed to be proud of our history
Yes you are, just acknowledge you had shitty leaders back then just like everyone else has had at some point and frankly, everyone has now. They arrogantly believed in King Cotton and that they could antagonize everyone and get away with it. I don't deny the bravery of the soldiers back then, I think they got tricked into a pointless war. Just like how I feel about the US as a whole for WW2.
>I can fight Nazi media content so much easier than Confederate stuff
Because again, most people don't care about the CSA. Only fags who actually live there care about it to the point of wanting to romanticize it. No one else cares. If you want pro CSA shit then write it yourself. No one is stopping you, but I will call you a retard regardless.
>How many times do I have to say I'm not for forcing slavery to be re-established.
Then what is the point of wanting CSA? If you just want more southern pride and to build the south up into a respectable region of the US you can do it without pretending the CSA was anything but proto globo homo led by uppity kikes and shabbos goyim who took advantage of well meaning whites to start a war solely on the basis of their own profits.

>>510786258
I was getting it a couple mins ago too.

>>510787289
it's not about slavery, it's about pedo rights

>>510787407
Shut the fuck up low effort faggot.

>>510787448
so whites only want to secede everyone else to not be pedos?

>>510787487
Learn to speak English retard.
I'm uninterested in your drivel that has nothing to do with anything.

>>510787535
then secede yourself from my posts you retarded faggot

>>510784457 (OP)
LOL you should try. Dixie would be an Africa-tier shithole without the north, and that's if you kikes don't end up killing each other after a year when Texas decides to leave and takes half the south with them

>>510786742
I have a nice cotton 3rd national on my wall.

t. 8 CSA soldiers in my line.

>>510787109
>Yeah it did, muh teepee niggers
Dispossessing a myriad of tribes is nowhere near on the same level as what TND would entail, are you serious?
>But they were.
Are you seriously equating these things? The vast majority of Whites were unaffected in any tangible way by slavery, especially when compared to how abolition caused everyone to be affected.
>all too happy to racemix with their slaves
Your ignorance of Southern cultural perspectives on miscegenation is unsurprising.
>your leadership back then was scum
Jefferson Davis was a gentleman and a patriot, literally shut your whore mouth
>We still fucking have it
These two systems are nowhere near the same. One enshrines White Supremacy and the other reduces us all to cogs in a machine.
>Like the time the South thought xyz abc 123?
Misreading the geopolitical stage is something a Nazi should know all about.
>"Hitler did nothing wrong! It's all JOOS!!!111"
This proves again you don't know anything.
>"We should've allied with Hitler!"
>"Let's make an alliance with Germany against trading partners we've had for centuries who can actually strike against us, especially after Germany backed Japan! 1kDCHESS!!! NORMIES IN SHAMBLES111"

white southerners are beneath chickens, what kind of chicken would be afraid of bugs like the white stupid braindead faggot sissy inbred southerner?

>>510787222
Do you even speak English? There are niggers I could see at a gas station right now more literate than you.

>>510788369
then go argue with them about how you're whiter than them you faggot

>>510787289
>just acknowledge you had shitty leaders
Like who? Senators like Wigfall? Sure.
>got tricked into a pointless war, just like the US as a whole in WW2
Jesus fucking Christ the unjustifiable Protagonist of History perspective you assholes have is absolutely unreal and it never fails. People that actually study the period you fetishize laugh at you.
>Then what is the point of wanting the CSA?
Damn I dunno, secession? Nationalism? White Supremacy? State's Rights?
>CSA smear
Yeah sure, okay pal. There's more Jews in higher positions in the Third Reich than their are in the CSA. Muh Honorary Aryan.

>>510787679
Dixie wouldn't be approaching Zimbabwe Conditions if you all hadn't been useful idiots for Industrialists and their Jewish Bankers.

Those retards brought the nogs over in the first place because the Jewish plantation owners were too cheap to pay white men to do it. Lincoln was going to deport them all and he was assassinated for it.

>>510788392
I don't need to argue what's obvious, like your illiteracy.

>>510788539
you need to argue more about bugs not being white by speaking english? okay fucking retard

>>510788504
>Jewish plantation owners
You're literally quoting Nigger Supremacist propaganda right now. Read a book.
Nobody was ever going to deport anything. Lincoln lied every time he opened his mouth on this issue. The actual things we can say for sure he really believed as hardline convictions is embarrassingly small.

so that's why niggers picked cotton for so long, they weren't white yet by speaking good english for all their faggot white sissy beautiful retarded inbred owners

>>510788350
>Dispossessing a myriad of tribes is nowhere near on the same level as what TND would entail, are you serious?
Yes I am. It wouldn't be hard.
>Are you seriously equating these things?
Yes. Whites were affected. Still are. Slaves weren't remote workers, they had to live on the land they worked and whites had to deal with any consequences with slave owners failed to control them or freed them, and had to compete with them (and their owners) if they wanted to do plant as well. You are an imbecile if you think this had no effect on whites.
>Your ignorance of Southern cultural perspectives on miscegenation is unsurprising.
I know the average southerner didn't like it but those mullattos didn't simply materialize from the ether. Slave owners created them. So many blacks are a hodge-podge of genetics because of Southern owners doing bad deeds.
>Jefferson Davis was a gentleman and a patriot, literally shut your whore mouth
He sacrificed you own neighbors lives for the right to keep cheap nonwhite labor. Nothing more, nothing less.
>One enshrines White Supremacy
What a joke. And no, they are the same. There were nonwhite and kike slave owners abound. It was about cheap nonwhite labor, not whites. About money.
>Let's make an alliance with Germany against trading partners we've had for centuries who can actually strike against us
British? Doing anything against us? They wouldn't have lasted against the Germans even with Soviet support if we simply stopped supporting them. The UK and France instigated that war and would have lost without the US bankrolling them and the soviets. They did all they could to get us in the war, they were no threat to us. But neither were the germans or japanese. The UK was on the decline and Germany was on the rise, it would have been more profitable for the US to make deals with Germany and Japan in exchange for advantageous trading rights rather than war with them. Only ideologues and kike lovers disagree

did you know the north had to have a draft because no one wanted to fight for them? this led to the great draft race riots of the civil war - also russia helped the north by blockading shipping routes of the confederacy as payment that's when america gave them 2million and they gave usa alaska to make it look "kosher"

i guess obama's dumb nigger ass didn't speak good english either and wasn't white enough for the retarded white dixie sissy

>>510788457
>Like who? Senators like Wigfall? Sure.
Any pro confederate leader dragging you guys into an unwinnable war for profits and destroying hegemony over the continent. Refusing any peaceful solution. Lying to your people.
>Jesus fucking Christ the unjustifiable Protagonist of History perspective you assholes have is absolutely unreal and it never fails. People that actually study the period you fetishize laugh at you.
I don't think the US is the protagonist, just that if most saw the result of the war and the real reasons we fought, no one would have signed up.
>Damn I dunno, secession? Nationalism? White Supremacy? State's Rights?
Destroying hegemony is a retarded idea and kills empires to be preyed upon by neighbors - especially barbarians. Nationalism can happen without it. White supremacy/nationalism can happen without it. States rights still exist and is why my state has retarded gun laws they are enacting, if anything I want less and a more centralized power to slap kikes around.
>Yeah sure, okay pal. There's more Jews in higher positions in the Third Reich than their are in the CSA. Muh Honorary Aryan.
Sure there were. Was berlin Jew capital of Europe like Charleston, SC was Jew capital of the US?