Thread 510787015

can some anon please explain how this is winning? This, at the cost of 500,000 deaths, and twice that many maimed? What are you fighting for anyway? Ukraine is in demographic and ecological collapse. Everyone has left. Its a bunch of rubble propped up by the west. It's worth less than what your spending

you already made this thread

>>510787015 (OP)

Because that's literally the narrative the Russian state is projecting both inside and outside. That they are winning "hohols" are losing territory and will collapse, that the decadent West will run out of weapons and will to support. Otherwise how else would you justify casualties that according to best informed sources reached 1 million of killed, maimed and wounded?

>>510787036
This and its been years since you lost Crimea.
russia won as evidenced by the fact that they are perfectly happy to just sit on their gains while you zionists have gained nothing other than a third world country without resources.

>>510787308
>>510787294
i thought you were liberating your slavic brothers not annihilating them to own le west.

>>510787015 (OP)
You read too much western media.

>>510787376

I don't think anyone still seriously believes in "le liberating" anymore.
It had some merit in case of Crimea were there were some pro-Russian sentiments (though no real separatism). However now the war is on Ukrainian ethnic territories and Russia is absolutely open that it's just conquest grounded in 19th-century style imperialism.

>>510787376
>i thought you
Gonna stop you right there.
You have never had a thought in your life, hasbara whore.

>>510787015 (OP)
you are dumbdumb, the "war" is just two jewish oligarchies sending the White people to a meat grinder to make space for the homefront replacements from the third world

its all part of the kalergi plan

>>510787015 (OP)
How has Ukraine not regained their LOST territory?? that's how Russia is winning dumb fuck

>>510787527
Enforced by "white" americans.

>>510787594
Yep, obviously both the judeo-american state and the vestigial remains of the judeo-bolshevik USSR are enemies of all men.

It’s a war of attrition at the time warfare paradigm shifted and defence is king again.
Russians are winning because they effectively operationally neutered their opponent, forced them into a tempo and method that suits them, and are inflicting unsustainable casualties.
Whether they win in 6 months, a year, or two years, it’s irrelevant. Outcome is clear.

>>510787733
but the attrition affects Russia far, far worse than their main rival NATO.
35% of the state's budget is towards this war, mabye 0.50% at most for NATO.
Also NATO has stronger industry and resources whereas Russia relies on fossil energy thats on its way out by the end of the century.
I think they may win over ukraine and get some land, but it would be a pretty useless victory, at a horrific cost that they will never recover from
I mean the entire soviet arsenal is gone, they need shit from North Korea.

>>510787730
I think its important to not play their games and allow them to shift blame onto the jews.
The jews are comically evil no doubt but the people that worked with and for them more so because of them at least human decency was expected.

There is no greater shame than to be tangentially related to an american.

>>510787015 (OP)
>500,000
According to western sources... anyway, they are slowly, but surely advancing, taking resource rich areas under their control. All of this could've been avoided, if ukies didn't chimp out at the behest of kikes and Nuland...

>>510787015 (OP)
Russia might take over the entirety of Ukraine but it NEVER EVER WILL STOP BEING A SHITHOLE!

>>510787937
I dont believe it.
We are seeing an amount of incompetence that can not be explained without collusion between the white house and moscow.

>>510787888
>allow them to shift blame onto the jews.
Either you're a kike or have been listening to some jewish propaganda. Jews are the ones behind it all, there is not someone else. It's literally two thousand year tactic that the jews have used "Oh we were just achsually working for someone else, we are scape goats, din du nuffin!"
And this is extra retarded coming from a German of all people who the kikes created holohoax stories about.

Americans shame is that they're stupid and easily tricked by the jew - but its absolutely the jew who is behind all the shit.
Anyone who doesn't agree that ALL jews need to be eradicated from this planet is just standing in the way of salvation

>>510787483
it seems so unfortunately

>>510787733
Ok pidor, how about you follow your fellow vatniggers example so we can see how your body reacts to military degree weaponry? You may or may not get raped by your sergeant before by the way and that may be recorded too :)

>>510787015 (OP)

>massive pockets forming in Ukraines defenses
>soldiers barely taught to wipe their own ass before being thrown at the front
>attempt to make a wundercountetstrike 3 but can no longer even leave towns with their vehicles as concentrations get wiped out before even reaching the front or border
>weapons running out
>money running out
>people running out
>breach continues to grow
You now understand what attritional warfare. Congratulations I hope it bettered you. Stick to Harry Potter for underdogs winning fights bigger wins like pretty much always in reality.

>>510788006
>collusion
Much simpler explanation is NATO's inability to defend without employing their aviation, which would spiral into nuclear war.

For the same reason we can't use our aviation to strike NATO supply routes and airports used to bring new equipment into Ukraine through Poland and Romania.

>>510788273
>3 years copypasting this shit
>Still stuck in Donbass
>Mobiks so mentally broken they use enemy razorwire to kill themselves
Grim.

>>510787294
I believe this narrative. Ukrainians run out of will to defend their own country. Their border is closed to stop them leaving. They can't go to Paris on weekend to have an espresso with a croissant, for example. While Russians can do it if they want, more than 90% of tourist visas are approved by the first-class EU countries.

>>510787937
> if ukies didn't chimp out at the behest of kikes and Nuland...

Ukies made revolution because Yanukovych pulled out of negotiations with the EU for inexplicit reasons, likely after Putin threatened him with open invasion if he signs the association agreement.

also
>pic related

>>510788521

Russia will eventually run out of idiots willing to die for some cash payout and Putin will do mandatory conscription again. Sooner or later.

>>510788659
I'm a native estonian, go back where? this labeling and deflection is what makes people turn against your narrative, not everyone who hurts your feelings or challenges your worldviews is [insert current boogeyman]

>>510788721
>Russia will eventually run out of idiots

they own 1/5th of ukraine. that means they've won until they're kicked out. the more land they take, the more they win.

>>510788064
>Jews are the ones behind it all
Payment and planning maybe.
jews didnt bomb Dresden or invade Europe.
That was "white" american mercenaries.
No amount of naming the jew will make this fact go away.
"white" americans are race traitors who committed genocides against Europeans at the behest of jews.
Blame the kikes all you want but it was you who burned the bridges of kindship.
The kikes just offered you money correctly identifying you people as whores.
>>510788293
Of course a russian shill would deny that.
Not that russians weren't famous for their lies.

>>510789256
Occam's razor

>>510788293
Please strike Romania. The partliment if you can. Oreshnik that bitch.

>>510789440
We won't do shit.

>>510789256
>jews didnt bomb Dresden or invade Europe.
>That was "white" american mercenaries.

Bombing of Dresden happened at the request of the Soviets who wanted to avoid another Budapest siege.

>>510789285
The simplest solution is that moscow and the white house are colluding chabadniks.
Its very telling that this simple sentence irks you so much.

>>510789482
:/

>>510789507
>Bombing of Dresden happened at the request of the Soviets
bolsheviks.
That doesn't change the fact that the pilots were all white americans and brits who are on record admitting fear over warcrime prosecutions BEFORE doing it.
There is not even a single american or brit who refused the order.

>>510787294
at some point (pretty soon, let's be real) ukriane will run out of men, the only hope they have is other nations where ukrianians fled to deporting them so they get a completely new batch of soldiers

>>510787294
>according to best informed sources reached 1 million of killed, maimed and wounded?
>source ukrainian military

>>510789555
then why the war started to begin with?
just collude in 2016 when Trump became president and divide Ukraine in half to safe 350+ billion. Instead he pioneered weapon deliveries.
I thought germans could into basic logic

>>510789507
>Bombing of Dresden happened at the request of the Soviets

that's what americans claim nowadays but they have no proof. We know from archive documents stalin was against that

>>510787015 (OP)
First of that death claim is absurd.
They supposedly have more than twice as many deaths than the amount of soldiers they initially send into this.
They would have barely any soldier left in Ukraine if that number was real.

Secondly why try to advance further, they got the most important places and further advancing would thin out the troops.
Ukraine are the ones that have barely any people left and are trying to force the European nations to send back men that seeked refuge.
They can hold the line and as Zelensky himself said he will fight till the last Ukrainian (he himself not included through his Jewish heritage) so he will just send more and more people to die.

Russia at this point just needs to hold the line and wait until barely anyone is left.

>>510789822
>then why the war started to begin with?
To do exactly what it is doing.
Combine a genocide of people chabad deems undesirable with a weapons testing ground to brute force r&d that bloated corpses like the states and russia are simply too corrupt to conduct under any other circumstance.
>I thought germans could into basic logic
Anon are retarded or something?
The fiat money is not real and the entire point is the death, destruction and debt.

You fucks dont understand how wars work. Not a single clue.
Its never about winning or losing. Its about controlling the war. Controlling the money coming in and out of it. Those who control the money control the war.
Then it is the big money. The real and true money behind after it. And that is the debt that the war creates. Whoever control the debt, control the country.

This is why russia desperately try to win this wich they wont. They have failed bigtime and will do so for the simple reason they dont have the funds or anyone to fund them the way the west do.
We are sucking money out of russia. Oil and gas sales in russia is irrelevant since its basically just war production at this moment and longer down the road the money is gone and way of living in Russia will be shit because there is no money left.

Ukraine will be a 110% western controlled country, primarily The US. Yes russia will probably get a little bit of shit land that is bombed and have zero profits to them whatsoever. This because The US economy buttfucks russias economy day in and out and is shit compared to The US. And will always be so.
The US will be the main lender of money to Ukraine via IMF, BIS etc, and control everything.

Russians will never understand this because they are way to fucking stupid. The US have them around their little finger just the way they always have. Its a reason for The US being the number 1 superpower and will continue to be so for centuries and beyond.

>>510787378
You're too brown

>>510790199
Russia's debt-to-GDP ratio is infinitely lower than the EU, even less so than the US.
Romania applied austerity measures because we can't pay the interest to the debts that were accumulated and the government keeps borrowing so we can bankroll Ukraine's war.
If we think of it, Europe is the biggest loser in this war.

>>510788801
Mul pole silmi, aga ma ajan nutma.
Mul pole keelt, aga minus hoitakse saladusi.
Mu hingus on must, aga ma annan puhta ihu.
Mis ma olen?

>>510787015 (OP)
It's really baffling to Americans.
These eastern European countries (no offense) all look like shitholes.
Romania, Moldova, Ukraine, Lithuania, Poland--I would use a meme flag if I were posting from there, DESU.
Why Russia is willing to lose MILLIONS to conquer them is a real head-scratcher.
>muh resource
what resources?
Also good luck competing with the US and China, who are leading the way in tech and AI, with your economies based on natural resources, especially shitty ones like potash and grain.

The life of a russian is worth literally zero. As long as they gain something it doesn't matter how many lives they lose.

>>510790374
This is what people dont understand. Just what you just said.
Its not about debt itself. Debt is not bad if it is used correctly. And GDP does not matter either. That is not what measure how a country is doing.

I will give you an example. The biggest US businesses are all up in debt. Why? because it is lucerative.
The US itself is in debt. Why? Because it is lucerative. Yes it is. Even tho it is skyhigh. Their debt is the reason for all the control world wide. So while the public cry about it, it benifit the US.

EU debt is high but it is irrelevant because its being invested. Russias debt is not investments. It is money into a drain that is not investable. Military equipment to fight in wars in the areas that give nothing back mean zero and what money are they going to get back from it? nothing. It is no money to collect for Russia. You cant invest in a war by running the war yourself. It is just spending after spending.

The west has already won money wise. The west does not have any problems financially speaking. We are better off than any other place in the world. We are corrupt as fuck over here and that is why we always win.

>>510790879
>We are corrupt as fuck over here
Lolwut.

>>510790173
explains nothing. All of that could've been achieved by a fraction of $350bn and whatever more is needed to repair the infrastructure. Plus whatever the economies lost due to sanctions, western companies alone lost an additional $300bn because they left their russian business. The main beneficiaries so far have been India and China simply by a lack of association with either fighting side. Inb4 your conspiracy theory must now include Modi and Xi as pawns too, yes such a simple theory

Bullshit. You lost that lithium fields fair and square in direct war, get over yourself

>>510790777
Ukraine resources are worthless to conquer. Ziggeristan just wants to reform the Russian empire.

You don't understand Russian people. The USSR collapsing is literally their worst trauma and humiliation in their history. It was the most POWERFUL country on earth, more than the USA, and America was fucking terrified of them, along with everybody else.

It collapsing basically destroyed most of Russia's global soft and hard power. Russians haven't got over this travesty. They are desperate to get back on the world stage, it's a matter of national pride.

>>510787015 (OP)
You try standing in another man's country for four years with your cock out.
Russians are alright

>>510790879
If you don't have enough domestic production you don't have enough money to pay interest and you end up with austerity.
Printing money to pay interest isn't a measure of wealth.
US companies that cook their books so they can look like they're solvent aren't lucrative either.
EU debt is being invested in stupid shit that is not lucrative and into bankrolling Ukraine's war that will never generate a rate of investment because even if Ukraine wins and takes back all the lost territories, it won't pay us back a single dime.
>The west has already won money wise.
By impoverishing its people. Modern feudalism relies on draining the blood of the poor while the rich continue their "lucrative" business and moving wealth from the lower classes, turning the poor into dead people and turning the middle-class into poor people.
The EU is working on the model of Medieval Feudalism that was practiced in Britain, France and Russian Empire.

>>510791347
>Ukraine's war
Ok Ivan

>>510790996
>All of that could've been achieved by a fraction of $350bn and whatever more is needed to repair the infrastructure.
You either dont get it or you are a shill trying to distract from the obvious.
>The main beneficiaries so far have been India and China
No shit, sherlock?
You are Chinas satellite and they write your foreign policy with their lithium decrees.
>You lost that lithium fields fair
Those. Its plural and I didnt own or profit from them.
Germans are a captured nation so you are wasting your time blaming us for everything the americans stationed here do with their puppet goverment.
We are just the market that the lithium is intended for and do not care who sells it to us.
>fair and square
No invading the Ukrainians was not fair.
You know the maidan coup was the cia yet you make the Ukrainian public pay for it.
That is unjust and you know it.
If I were a russian I would honestly consider suicide out of shame for letting this happen in my name.

russia is losing... ;_;

>>510787586
>>510788834
Ukraine still exists, that means they're winning.

>>510787015 (OP)
They aren't it's just pol tranny communists coping for 4 seething years

White power
Fuck pol

>>510787015 (OP)
When russia wins, the west will collapse and Sanjay will get a blonde, white gf.

>>510789995
>First of that death claim is absurd
You're right, Russians say it's way worse lol

>>510787015 (OP)
I thought they stopped paying you guys are usaid got thrown in the toilet

>>510787015 (OP)
>can some anon please explain how this is winning?
you're seething.

>>510788510
did you get a VPN goremutt? how would you feel if you hadn't had breakfast today?

>>510787015 (OP)
.

>>510793083
god I wisht hat was me

>>510787015 (OP)
...By actually achieving meaningful gains?
They have the strategically vital Crimea thrice-secured by bridge, by land and by water and additionally they have the industrial heartlands they were going for fully under control effectively.

>>510789507
these bloodthirsty bastards are raised without fathers through their family laws, they bombed dresden because they love mutilating children and hate art and achitecture

soviets killing soviets
i don't see anything wrong with this

>>510787015 (OP)
>explain how this is winning?
>Ukraine is in demographic and ecological collapse.
>Everyone has left. Its a bunch of rubble
with a post like this, I expected a leaf

>>510787015 (OP)
They aren't. They are just coping as usual.

>>510787015 (OP)
nobody is winning. Russians are dying, ukranians are dying, and every western nation is getting fleeced by the corruption involved in helping ukraine. Everything is fucked.

>>510787015 (OP)
I don't think Russia cares and it's just a war of attrition to dispose of undesirables and test new tactics with the help of NK, China, and whoever else needs data on western doctrine used in a proxy to say prepare for Western doctrine in proxies like SK or TW

>>510793941
Elaborate what you mean by corruption.

>>510787015 (OP)
POV transwinnig

>>510792785
I read nothing but projection. First it's chabad, no it was the Chinese Khan, no it's about fiat debt, no it's actually about lithium resources, no it's about...

>Germans are a captured nation
>No invading the Ukrainians was not fair.

cry about it pigger. If your enemy fumes at your actions then they're probably justified. If you don't like it, stand up get drafted and to donbas with you

>>510794669
>If your enemy fumes at your actions
Freudian slip.
>If you don't like it, stand up get drafted and to donbas with you
I have a way better idea.
The cia is always looking for some unhinged retards like me to do their bidding and murder your assets.
I will be treated very well in prison for killing an apparatchik.

>>510787015 (OP)
Just suit up to the frontline, ok? And increase that defense spending to 10% or else no lgtbq funding from USA.

>>510795106
you have no idea what a Freudian slip is
neither will you be allowed to RF
stay in banishment

>>510795417
>you have no idea what a Freudian slip is
An unintentional error regarded as revealing subconscious feelings.
You called Germans your enemy thus revealing your true intentions towards us.
>neither will you be allowed to RF
I dont need your permission, apparatchik.
>stay in banishment
Do you feel in charge?

>>510795729
>You called Germans your enemy
that's not a freudian slip
ever heard of unfriendly countries?
>I dont need your permission, apparatchik
yes you do. because we have actual border control unlike in eurostan

>>510787015 (OP)
>See flag
>See pot

Every time, it's always the same flags, same posts and the same seething. It's always the same, Polack, Romanigger, Finncuck and at times a bong or a strayannigger.

>>510796189
Jews who live in Romania are not Romanians.

>>510793941
China is winning.

It's fucking Russia hard by electrifying every country and making their oil export worth less.
At the same time they can have their men marry the Russian women whoms husband died.
On top of that, by keeping selling, they can buy all other Russian resources for free.

>>510787015 (OP)
They are delusional. And disarmed them self in the confusion. Now everybody knows that russia is just a paper tiger. And putin will me known for causing it.

>>510796051
>that's not a freudian slip
I identified your leadership as hostile while you declared my entire ethnicity as such because we are still under american occupation.
>ever heard of unfriendly countries?
The four whores of the entente ring a bell?
>yes you do. because we have actual border control unlike in eurostan
Why would I travel to your shithole to murder a spook.
You have plenty of people embedded right here in Germany that are way easier to dissapear or make public examples of.

>>510796705
Imagine losing to paper tiger, NAFO sisters, our pact was supposed to be superpower

>>510788721
you vastly underestimate their alcohol syndrome rates

>>510787015 (OP)
You are an insane and disingenuous retard if you think this war will be won by territory gains
With that metric neither Ukraine or Russia will win in the next millenium

That's like saying "how is France winning" showing a map of the western front in WW1
You should actually kill yourself fir being this retarded, I am not joking

>>510793941
When white roaches die, the earth heals

>>510797382
The war will end when russia's economy collapses.

>>510797524
What economy lmfao? Stop coping, this will never happen during the war, it will happen 1 to 3 years after the war is over and arms manufacturing goes back down

>>510787015 (OP)
For your brainrot gypsy mind to comprehend: they are playing the long "victory in two weeks"-game by fighting along the same solidified frontline, grinding at the same established places without having to keep up risky supply lines through enemy territory or wasting lots of soldiers by forcibly pushing forward.
One day one side gets depleted completely of soldiers, and the usual "nothing ever happens" turns into "it's happening" overnight: from there chaos ensues and marching fest becomes the main way of further territory gains.

>>510796745
>I identified your leadership as hostile while you declared my entire ethnicity as such
>Not that russians weren't famous for their lies.

kek.
krauts tried to pull that off last time, remember how it ended? in Nuremberg trials

>The four whores of the entente ring a bell?
No, more like a certain Anal-lena declaring Germans were at war with Russia. which is true ironically. And you're losing

>You have plenty of people embedded right here in Germany that are way easier to dissapear or make public examples of.
oh no not our beloved diaspora please no not our banished foreign agents have mercy.

>>510797822
This.
This is why Zelensky is asking for so much support: the moment it runs out, his country will be overran.
Russians are aware of that and suppose Ukraine will eventually run out of people.

>>510798241
And everyone is aware that one day russia runs out of money and their economy collapses and their offensive will instantly end.

>>510787294
>according to best informed sources reached 1 million of killed, maimed and wounded?
I heard it was 6 gorillion. fr fr no cap

>>510797524
you people are braindead lol

>>510798104
>remember how it ended? in Nuremberg trials
How very telling that the pride of russian "patriots" are the bolshevik kangaroo courts.
>Anal-lena declaring Germans were at war with Russia
The openly jewish pentagon puppet is all you can mount as a rebuttal.
Germans are under occupation and you can take your gripe with baerbock to her state department handlers but we all know that you wont because its the convenient excuse you were looking for to justify your invasions and renewed imperial ambitions.
>oh no not our beloved diaspora
Riiiight because you dont have any active svr assets in Germany, huh?
As I said.
Not that russians weren't famous for their lies.

>>510798241
west is completely aware of this, they are not gonna send soldiers ofc, but the bare minimum weapon support to keep the show going as long as possible.
>>510798374
imagine saying this with a straight face lmao.

>>510798540
>muh juden
>muh Bolshevik

victim mentality
do something about it or stfu, everything bad happening to you including your 3rd year recession is because of nobody else but yourself. You could've chosen to remain neutral, Germany wasn't bound by any treaties or obligations.

>Riiiight because you dont have any active svr assets in Germany, huh?
They're active, actively applying for Hartz4

>>510798540
>xhe plants bolschevism in my country
>I dissolve it
>xhe has the audacity to lecture me upon bolschevism matters
Wow
>Riiiight because you dont have any active svr assets in Germany
Go at Usmanov who represents Russian interests in Germany you nafoid shemale he’s your real enemy pulling the strings, not some shoestring fuckers with 1500€/month income

>>510798374
Idi naxyi, pizda. Enforce the collapse by coming back and introducing yourself to your intestines somewhere at the forests of Pokrovsk

>>510798823
>muh juden
>muh Bolshevik
Yes. >>510789685
>victim mentality
You russians murdered Franz Ferdinand and invaded us to prevent Serbia from being independent because you wanted to tax the Balkan oil route.
You victimize everyone you interact with regardless of if they are Slavic or christian because you are zionists.
>They're active, actively applying for Hartz4
Would be a shame if anything happened to them.
>>510799057
Bullshit.
The tsar made a deal with the jews and they backstabbed him after he failed to serve his purpose.
>he’s your real enemy pulling the strings, not some shoestring fuckers with 1500€/month income
Your countrymen already call us their enemy.
What does their wage matter?
If anything it only makes it worse that you people do this shit to us for less than minimum wage.

>>510799764
>declare war on Russia
>lose
>genocide own citizens out of spite

Good thing germans stick to their traditions

>American glowie cell The Base now claiming they killed the Ukrainian officer
So its back to this nazi vs nazi shit again?
>>510787730
Who use neo-nazis as proxies on one another.

>>510799639
Karelia will greet us as liberators when our troops will march in bringing butter and eggs. I will enjoy seeing the final collapse of muscowia.

>>510799876
You just rewrote history.
We all know the truth here.
You invaded us and started the wars because you were scared of another HRE crushing your gay little slavic empire that you have to force "your own people" at gunpoint to join.

>>510800030
Russians always rewrite history. Isn't it funny how all of the 50+ wars they started were in self defense and poor puccia dindu nuffin.

>>510793422
Goreleaf has posted his white hand like 6 gorillion times, how are you niggers still on about this

>>510800306
You can really tell from the impotent replies by all the russian satellite shillls just how butthurt they are about being called out on it too.

>>510788659

the bought tv stations
they spent money
they propagandized the masses
that's how it works
whether it's a virus, or refugees or gayness
the masses are told what to think

>>510800306
isn't it funny how you're refuted by a globus?

>>510789507

>at the request of the Soviets

doubt
the us and airstrip one wanted shock the russians, show their funky stuff
that must have also been part of the considerations in the two a bombs

>>510800004
>butter and eggs cope
He actually said the line

>>510788006
It’s collusion. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional. Trump loves Putin, loves Russia and famously hates the EU. How else can people explain the constant weapon shipment halts under Trump? If the war started today Trump would say it was Ukraines own fault and that Ukraine is proper Russian clay anyway.

>>510787015 (OP)
Damn 3 years and nato still can't kick russia out of Ukraine

>>510803714
>and famously hates the EU.
I dont think that is true at all.
The eu is a pentagon puppet and these tariffs just for show and to force a war economy transition.
He does however hate Germans as evidenced by him continuing the american policy of exterminating ethnic Germans by trying to sterilize and replace them with foreigners.

>>510788721
>run out of idiots
Anon thats like one of our core natural resources.

>>510803917
He thinks because we helped you in WW2 your a bunch of losers who can’t do anything (his words not mine). The leak from JD pretty much confirmed this.

>>510803714
The western coalition is all about strategic complimentaries. EU is more capable of assisting Ukraine while US focuses on the Taiwanese front.

^this is the only truthful post in this thread.

>>510787015 (OP)
At this point, Russia-the-country is fighting for there to be fewer Russians, so that when the general mass of peons realizes the truth about the war they've been sacrificed for, MAYBE internal security can manage it. (long enough for the Chechens to kill everyone, lol)

>>510804490
EU cannot assist Ukraine in its current state. Their own military leaders assessed a Coalition Of The Willing without air support would be wiped out, even a reach logistical support unit would be at risk of being crushed. Maybe in 5-10 years they’ll be a military power but right now they are vulnerable and have no power projection outside of their own borders.

so why cant NATO stop russia?

>>510787015 (OP)
>What are you fighting for anyway?
To feed the military industrial complex that supplies both sides for profit. Only the jews profit.

>>510787015 (OP)
I'll just leave this here.

>>510787015 (OP)

You have to post harder, cigan, the oinkraine's still losing.

>>510804734
USA likes it this way. This is economic warfare. Trump knows the EU would rather use money to solve their problems rather than make the hard choice to cut social benefits. EU is probably still hoping that by importing more US made natural gas that we will help NATO. USA is happy with money, EU is unhappy but it’s better than being invaded and Russia is happy it gets to bully a bunch of Baltic and Eastern Europe countries (most of whose population will flee to the EU in response). This is the forever wars we have been warned about.

>>510800750
Who is the top right in red?

>>510804893
Update your cope script.

Funny how that one went silent back in March.

>>510804734
>implying Russia hasn't been stopped in Ukraine for over a decade now

>>510805140
Are you implying that this graph is showing major Russian gains?

Are you blind?

>>510787015 (OP)
Because they are winning. Anyone who thought Ukraine had a chance is a fucking retarded sheep. Supporting this war is retarded cousins killing cousins. Pushed by propaganda. The sooner this war ends the better it is.

>>510804319
>we helped you in WW2
Absolute delusions.
american "bailing out" is "lending" someone money at absorbent rates and gunpoint after breaking their legs.
You invaded us and committed a genocide against Germans to punish their uprising against british petrolium.

>>510805140
Do you think everyone makes their pics? You really are retarded poverty trash who simps gor the side that raped their grandma, LOL. How brainrotted and isolated do you have to be to be pro kleptocrat?

>>510787015 (OP)
Ukraine has no capacity to retake any land and the longer it goes on the more Ukraine stands to lose. Leadership is retarded and wastes men on worthless attacks that only serve to look good on TV and Twitter like at Kursk. Each day manpower and equipment shortages get worse all the while EU and the US deliver less and less. As an example, North Korea out delivered all of EU combined in artillery shell production. Ukraine can't salvage a favourable peace deal, but the leadership can't end the war because it would be their death sentence and the more they ignore those, more harsh next peace offers become thus becoming and endless cycle.
Ukraine's hopes were:
Economic collapse following sanctions which failed.
Counter offensive of 2023 which was an unmitigated disaster.
Russian anti war opposition that fled the country and lost much support due to Ukrainian bombings, terrorist attacks and the Kursk incursion.
NATO intervention that isn't gonna happen with active US support, and Baltics and Poland won't dare enter the war without active American support.
Ousting of Putin. Putin will only be gone if he dies or becomes a lobotomite. And whoever comes after him will at at best take similar stances on Ukraine.

>>510787294
>hohol in pshekistan
Ah, so ukraine's losing

>>510805484
I never said it was true. But the most powerful man in the world thinks you are a bunch of effeminate freeloaders. He also controls how powerful NATO is as well. The real question is will the EU develop their own military capable of being at least a regional power? My theory is no, the entire economic system of Europe is not built for war and its people lack a reason to give a shit. All of EU is mostly migrants with no loyalty to the state aside from free money, state welfare and importing more people.

>>510805909
>And whoever comes after him will at at best take similar stances on Ukraine.
Why would they oligarchs allow that?

>>510790420
were you in estonian military couple years back by any chance I think I know you

>>510806133
>But the most powerful man in the world thinks you are a bunch of effeminate freeloaders.
I honestly could not care less what some american thinks regardless of how rich or powerful he is.
>The real question is will the EU develop their own military capable of being at least a regional power?
The eu is a direct arm of the pentagon and Europeans are not in control of it.
You can not concede this fact because it undermines your governments "stop hitting yourself" propaganda and this is really where loyalties permeate the charade and out the shills.

>>510806793
Im convinced you are arguing with a vatnik. There are some dumb cringe Americans but not that dumb and cringe. Guy is obviously trying to make white Americans look like brainwashed simping retards.

>>510787015 (OP)
Russia is winning because NATO is in discord and that's all they need. the longer it goes on, the more unrest that will happen in the EU. Germany's economy has already gone to shit and i wouldn't be surprised if they make a deal with Russia, fracturing NATO.

>>510787015 (OP)
Is this incompetence or just mediocrity? Either way Russia is such an unimpressive country.

>>510806793
>EU is controlled by the pentagon
Is this what conspiracy theorists in the EU think? Brussels is controlled by the old world aristocracy of Europe, not the USA. Do you have any actual examples of the USA controlling the EU?
>I don’t care what Donald Trump thinks
>Watches as more weapon shipments get rerouted to Israel

>>510787015 (OP)
>Be Nafo
>Gays always win
>Can't push homophobic Russians out

You can always seethe and dilate.

>>510787015 (OP)
They're fighting for the only thing they have left, dignity. Sadly that has long been lost at this point, but they'll cling to the hope they'll find it again.

>>510796536
China also knows that the smart place to go is Africa. Once they can get rid of the tiresome Africans, that is.

>>510787294
This. They know they aren’t winning, we know they aren’t winning, but a million casualties and 100s of billions wasted on going to war with your smaller, poorer neighbor has to be justified somehow

>>510805140
Sick self-own

>>510787015 (OP)
>510808012
>can some anon please explain how this is winning?
Gonna have to figure this out for yourself there CIA. No more datamining 4chan for opinions because you retards have no unique thoughts of your own.

>>510808579
>They know they aren’t winning, we know they aren’t winning
Lol. Apparently the midget transexual Jew is winning then.

>>510787015 (OP)
>can some anon please explain how this is winning?
Gonna have to figure this out for yourself there CIA. No more datamining 4chan for opinions because you retards have no unique thoughts of your own

>>510809007
Both sides are being destroyed economically and demographically, however Ukraine isn’t the worlds “2nd best” army

>>510806926
>Guy is obviously trying to make white Americans look like brainwashed simping retards.
So what is it?
Either white americans are brainwashed or they know exactly what they are did and are doing to Europeans.
You cant have it both ways.
>>510807500
>Is this what conspiracy theorists in the EU think?
You invaded us and that occupation never ended, retard.
All you have left are your overused buzzwords to try and deflect.
>Do you have any actual examples of the USA controlling the EU?
von der leyen is an american jew like many of the unelected "officials" of yours in brussels.
There is also the fact that the obama administration shafted you on its way out by admitting to operation gladio.

>>510806575
No answer, native Estonian? Yes I've been, signal battalion

>>510787015 (OP)
They've killed between 7-1 and 17-1 of soldiers for the satanic undoing of western civilization fighting for greater khazaria so I'd say russia won.

Along the way they managed to turn the lefsts against Israel, once and for all. I'd say that was a major victory for the actual good guys.

As opposed to the psychopathic backstabbing pathological zionists who helped Obama and the UK coup Ukraine to begin with.

>>510787015 (OP)
>500k deaths
may we see them?

>>510810173
I mean yeah, there's 3+ years of footage of the meat-waves getting slaughtered, home-slice.

Vatniks complain about it constantly.

>>510809743
does it matter? half the ground troops are russians in estonian military anyway

>>510810853
Biggest meat-waves of war were unironically ukrainian counter-offensive 2023 + kursk

All failed btw

>>510803714
the US has no more weapons to send. they make 500 patriot interceptors a year and russia launches 500 geran-2 almost every day. do basic mathematics. they make 400k 155mm a year and all of europe together makes less than half of that. if ukranny fires 4000 a day on a good day then the US can afford to supply them for 100 days a year if they send literally every shell to ukranny which they are not doing. you are a moron, kill yourself

>>510811787
Production is ramping up and the (((americans))) are building their munitions factories in German population centres.
So far the russians have been making efforts not to create collateral but its only a question of time until the american one trick pony does its one and only trick and false flags us.

>>510806926
actually, americans are just like that. same with canadians

>>510787015 (OP)
Ukranians are drafting over 60s and women now. That means they are running out of soldiers. In a war of attrition that is what determines the winner.

>>510810853
>meat waves
may we see them?

>>510787308
Russia lost Syria, and its sovereign wealth fund and soviet stockpiles has been depleted

>>510787015 (OP)
No one believes Russia is winning. Anyone who says otherwise is a Russian shill being paid to keep up the lie. Nearly every western country could have invaded Ukraine and taken total control in a week. The fact that Russia is in year 4 and can’t even get to Kyiv is all you need to know about how bad they suck at war. They don’t even have a stealth planes that can fly in undetected .

>>510787015 (OP)
>two million dead Russians and Ukrainians
Only kikes are winning this war. Zelenskike and Jewtin are both going to emerge as two of the most hated figures in their respective countries.

>>510812476
>Russia lost Syria
Your rebuttal to losing the war in the Ukraine is making gains in Syria?

>>510812104
germany has lost 2/3rds of heavy industry since your masters cut your economic lifeline (nordstream). your country is de-industrialising and will continue to de-industrialise. and no amount of money thrown at the problem will fix that since your country will be turkey 2.0 in 10 years. you really should read this if you want to understand the military future of your country
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/fit-for-war-by-2030-european-rearmament-efforts-vis-a-vis-russia-34349/

>>510787015 (OP)
>How is Russia "winning"
ANSWER: Russia has systematically removed millions of untermensch from Ukraine. Trump can't even build a single mile of promised concrete wall on the Mexico border. #ArtOfWar

>>510812564
>nearly every western country could have invaded and taken ukraine in week

you know it's actually pretty difficult when your event can shoot back. you should kill yourself before i physically humiliate you at stanmore maccas on wednesday

>>510812887
*enemy

fuck me dead. i hate phoanfagging

>>510812756
>you really should read this if you want to understand the military future of your country
How about you go back and read some history before you lecture the inventors of Kraft durch Freude.
Germans invented the covert military industry and you are reading off of a script by the same jews currently building military industrial district right where I live and I can only assume elsewhere in Germany, too.
We also have bomb attacks and helicopter manhunts on the regular here now.
Think niggers are bad for real estate prices?
Wait until an israeli company moves into your neighbourhood.

>>510811787
According to numbers you read on a kremlij telegram channel.

>>510787015 (OP)
>How is Russia "winning''

Every year there is 1-3 battle like this where Russia ends up raping ukraine and since late 2022 ukraine only losing battles.
The only cope they try to counter this fact is with imaginary Russian losses from made up ''meatwave'' tactics.

>>510812756
You don't understand how weak and poor your country is. Germany doesn't give a shit about nordstream. Russia is collapsing economically and socially and won't even exist in five years. Remember how you russians were all saying Europe would freeze to death in the winter 3 years ago? Don't you feel embarrassed now. You are weak. You have nothing but cope.

>>510813305
precisely which numbers are you disputing?
>>510813253
are you schizophrenic fritz? speak plainly

>>510813441
my country is Australia. your country is a cumdump for both germany and russia who take it in turns to rape you

>>510813559
>are you schizophrenic fritz? speak plainly
Why dont you ask your co for a different assignment if you are struggling so much with basic English, pvt?

>>510813305
US PAC-3 interceptor production
https://defence-blog.com/lockheed-martin-breaks-pac-3-missile-output-record/
US 155mm production
https://en.defence-ua.com/analysis/us_is_falling_short_on_155mm_artillery_shell_production_current_output_and_1_million_goal_timeline-14894.html
Russian geran-2 bombardments (though frankly you only have to watch footage from ukraine as they get hammered by 500 or so of these a night almost every night which ukrainian civilians and military complain about vociferously)
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2g3qvz0pvo

>>510813847
why don't you go gargle turk semen. a bunch of Aussie farmer boys put paid to your faggot country twice already and I could physically humiliate you any day of the week

>>510814423
>I could physically humiliate you any day of the week
lol you couldn't even find Germany on a map, pine gape.
Nobody is scared of your diversity hired ass, esl.

>>510814669
sure i can, it's right between gay and get fucked. you're GSL and ETL you turk

>>510814836
>you're GSL and ETL you turk
For an insult to hurt the recipient they need to believe its true, too.
Pvt, your eyes are the colour of my shit.

>>510803841
>3 years
Of the three day smo?
And Ukraine still exists?

>>510815072
I have nothing to prove to a turk you temu mongoloid

>>510813646
>my country is Australia
No it's not. Australia is a white country.

>>510812391
>drafting over 60s and women now
May we see it?

>>510788293
Russofaggots flew sorties against us in Vietnam i don't see why we don't do the same now.

>>510788721
I'm not sure they will. Russians seemingly love dying and suffering for nothing, they pride themselves in it.

>>510787015 (OP)
have more land than at start of war? win
simple as that

>>510815570
>I have nothing to prove to a turk you temu mongoloid
How utterly pathetic.
I can tell by your impotent reply that I am already under you brown skin, pvt.
You are not cut out for the 5th gen.
Ask for a redeployment or you will break like your sissy ancestors.

>>510816224
Economy collapsing when it was fine at the start of the war you started? That's no win.

>>510815614
not that you'd know anything about being white your crypto-jew. don't women in your country worship nigger cock?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Mol

>>510816268
turk

>>510816808
Look at this angry shitskin zigger realizing he has nothing and tries to change the subject.

>>510787015 (OP)
Cope for the homefront.

>>510787015 (OP)
Because their cheerleaders and retarded supporters are too stupid do comprehend the actual costs of what's happening in Ukraine. Both of these nations are being fucked generationally for basically no personal gain. The propagandists are concerned with wonderweapons and red line shifts 20m west so nobody hones in on the uncomfortable reality of what a miserable ww1 style shit show this war has become. The optimal outcome for this war is everyone just fucking quits right now today, go home, start a huge riot, and kill their respective leaders.

>>510787015 (OP)
If russia is losing in ukraine, why are the euros so scared of putin taking the entire continent afterwards? I think the information the world leaders get and the information disseminated to goycattle are different.

>>510816981
is he even a shitskin zigger? muttmerica is full of delusional tankie zigger cucks. he could just be another incel faggot.
wasting time calling everyone brown or vpn is pointless imo.

also all Zigger cucks need to be roped.

>>510816945
>turk
pine gape latinx

>>510817481
because russia having a chimpout is not good for the economy

>>510817481
Correct. They know China and Russia and nuke ready.

>>510817404
That and shitton of the russian supporters are commies who want the jewssr back

>>510812564
>ukraine loses every battle
>but they are winning!
Your brain on trans

>>510817823
Besides worshipping anti white kikes like Lenin and shabbas goy like Stalin is there anything else commies think about then trannies?

>>510817823
>ukraine loses every battle
wtf are you talking about retard?

>>510787015 (OP)
In war there are no winners, only survivors.

Russia just killing off its excess men. Thats the hidden purpose of wars. They get rid of unproductive men who will not contribute to society leaving only the best alive, they basically remove the scum.
They kill off their prisoners and future prisoners, alcoholics, dumb village idiots and generally low IQ people dumb enough to die willingly for nothing.

>>510818159
>They kill off their prisoners and future prisoners, alcoholics, dumb village idiots and generally low IQ people dumb enough to die willingly for nothing.
But then who will still remain alive in russia?

>>510818627
Everyone else besides maybe the bottom 10%-20% of young men.

>>510818744
So... 10% of the current population?

>>510817481
>If russia is losing in ukraine, why are the euros so scared of putin taking the entire continent afterwards
Because Europe's armies now are basically shitskins, trannies, and women. The solution would be a pivot towards the white right, but western governments won't cede political power back to white men even of it means saving themselves.

>>510815729
>Russofaggots flew sorties against us in Vietnam i don't see why we don't do the same now.
You pretend as if those arent U.S. pilots in the F-16s we gave the Ukraine.

>>510813441
>Russia is collapsing economically and socially
Western media has been saying this for at least 15 years now.when is this going to happen?

>>510787015 (OP)
> How is Russia "winning"
By whittling down Ukraine's military capacities faster than they can replace them. Sooner or later they will be depleted. This is a war of attrition, not a Blitzkrieg. And Russia is obviously winning big time by all numbers except for territorial gains which are only smaller because Ukraine sacrifices men and resources to slow Russia down. But they can't stop them.

>>510819567
>Western media has been saying this for at least 15 years now.
Lol no. You are using the same cope script wumaos use to defend their dirt poor shithole. Tell us again what russia's inflation and interest rates are and why they are a sign of a strong economy.

>>510793098
> Ukraine still exists, that means they're winning.
With every day even less of Ukraine exists, that means they are losing.

>>510819946
Are they really loosing if their war goal is to genocide the Christian Slavic population in the Ukraine?

>>510787015 (OP)
Sir, your containment thread is up. Don't spam the board with your shitty propaganda and bait.

Thank you.

>>510787015 (OP)
I am the most psychotically pro-Ukraine person on this board but the Russians, statistically, ARE winning. If we assume their morale never wavers and Putin is never assassinated, then the numbers simply aren't in Ukraine's favour. Ukraine is only killing Russians 3:1 when the population ratio is 4:1, and they don't have the firepower needed to up their KD. As such, they are very slowly losing. Ukraine will eventually run out of manpower while Russia will still have some manpower left.

>>510787015 (OP)
two more weeks and you will they will capture another village with three houses and one door.

>>510821737
Russia took 500 sq km of fortified land in the last 30 days.
Hence all the shilling from you tranny faggots

>>510822249
Okay commie

>>510822332
Ukraine was full of commies
Tranny faggot

Shill for the jews running ukraine harder
It might help

>>510788659
> for inexplicit reasons
You know the reason very well you filthy lying pollack! The EU blackmailed Yanucovic that Ukraine would have to cut all ties with Russia! How could Yanucovic have explained this to the large Russian minority that voted him into office?

>>510822482
Right and Russia is not stalin worshipping dipshits

>>510822482
Why are you a anti white communist

Cause even with all that, Ukraine hasn't managed to take their land back - the definition of winning.

>>510822765
Why are you supporting communist ukraine so hard?
They lost
Cope and seethe

>>510822669
Why are you fighting so hard just for Kiev to have gay pride parades?

>>510823302
> Being against stalin worshipping invaders is jewish!
Nupol everybody

>>510800677
>>510787937
Buland was in favor of Yanukovitch staying in power. When she was saying "fuck the EU" it was in reference to her wanting Yanukovithc to stay in power despite the EU wanting him gone.

>>510788834
>>510793098
>1944
>GERMANY STILL OCCUPIES PARTS OF FRANCE AND RUSSIA THEREFORE IT IS WINNING, I HARRY SMITH FROM GLASGOW REICHSGAU THINK WE SHOUKD SURRENDER

>>510787015 (OP)
Why have Europeans become so retarded? Is it because of American influence?

Reminder that these threads are created by /uhg/ pro-NATO trannies. They have Discord servers where they literally organize 8-hour shifts and constantly spam the same gore and ragebait. They've made 17,000 /uhg/ threads so far (around 13 threads a day for the past 44 months or so). Since nobody is interacting with them, they've decided to breach containment and start spamming gore and ragebait in other threads.

>>510824067
Okey shitskin durka

>>510824067
So?

>>510824521
So you should just kys. You can spam all you like but no one except your fellow trannies are buying your bullshit. Russia is winning bigtime, nothing you do will change that

>>510819846
>>510819946
>Ignore the sudden need for a million+ immigrants, what Russian losses?
Meanwhile the Russians talk in vague terms about their "demographic crisis"

They were just the criminals and fannies. They haven't even sent their proper soldiers in yet. Putin holds all the aces here and isn't going to back down without massive, massive concessions.

>>510787937
>bro just mine lithium in an active warzone which also is the most landmine infested region of earth
uh huh, where can i subscribe to your blog?

>Ziggers make fun of the counteroffensive
>Still haven't taken that land back
>Lose the water supply to Crimea in the process

It's year 11 of Russia's war and Donetsk still gets bombed every single day lmfao

>>510826708
>They haven't even sent their proper soldiers in yet
Ridiculous cope. Russian losses among generals, officers, and elite troops like the vdv have been especially numerous and embarrassing for Russia.
They didn't start out having to import meat from the norks, or equip soldiers with bikes and donkeys.
They're not holding back the secret Soviet gundams and an underground army of supersoldiers that have been training all this time.

>>510808579
Russia and Ukraine are both gonna be wastelands

Now Trump gave Ukraine missiles to hit Moscow

>>510827813
>and Donetsk still gets bombed every single day lmfao
You are still bombing the civilians there?
Real good optics.

>>510787015 (OP)
who said they are winning? lol

they lost near a million.
russia is winning, yes. but it is slow and taking too much time and casualties that it can become a phyrric victory if it continies like this.
a near million dead is nothing to scoff at and many russians want this to end as soon as possible at this point.
it is taking way too long. that is a fact for sure.

>>510828882
yea that public humiliation in the white house when they berated zelenisky was just for show.

they are sending them weapons now, just like their predecessors. he just berated zelenisky in public as a cheap handout for his base since that was what he ran on. just to take it back and break his promise and continue the foreign policies of the previous administration.

remember he was going to end the war in 24 hours with a telephone. that was his promise. that was what he ran on.
all his voters got was a public drama in the white house that turned out to be nothing.
they are still sending them weapons like biden did and contrary to every single promise they made.

there is only 1 party in the states. the competition is the bread and the circus for the plebs.

>>510828074
They have 1 million soldiers you nerd

>>510787015 (OP)
Because the less slavniggers the better

>>510829833
>correction:
they have near a million casualties but that includes injuries as well.
they have around 250K KIA.

>cost of 500k dead russian men
>cost
Murdering young men is the point, that’s always the point of war, oligarchs need to cull men or they’ll be deposed

>>510787527
This

>>510787015 (OP)
Russia got what they wanted. Sevastopol and teaching NATO they will put troops on the ground without then being unmarked and during an Olympic Ceremony.

>>510831625
that is the age old tragedy.
picrel speaks volumes.
during ww1 all dynasties in western europe and russia were related.
they were all cousins of one another.
it almost felt like they were trying to cull their populations in unison.

the bombing of dreseden doesnt really matter because the city is back in its old shape by now. a full fire bombing is not as bad as mass immigration. the only thing that could destroy dresden forever is mass immigration. currently its a pretty white city. most foreigners here are ukrainian.

>>510833502
scheiß ami

>>510818009
@grok when was ukraine's last battlefield victory?

>>510820555
>ukraine is killing russians at 3:1
what fantasy world are you living in?

>>510788721
Not really, they still have a huge chunk of mongoiloid siberians and this war is the best excuse to cull them.

>>510834728
Just yesterday the ghost of kiew shot down a russian f35 over my house.

>>510787015 (OP)
>what are you fighting for
nobody gives a shit, they fight because they told so, it's not matter of choice or free will or motivation or etc. russia is a colony and russian is a prisoner

>>510787015 (OP)
If Russia was losing, all the shilling from nafo wouldn't be necessary

>>510787015 (OP)
>How is Russia "winning"
unless you other butthurt belters get draft raped they are gonna win
and even if you get drafted they can just nuke your ass

>>510788521
Why aren't you at the front patriot boy

>>510787846
Where did you get the number of 0.5%. Because the usa alone send weapons for as much as they buy for their military in 3 years in monetary terms. Ofc zero aircaraft careers and way more arty than they produce in 3 years. All of nato is out of ammo and scrapping the bottom of the barrel to send anything to ukraine.
The whole point of attrition is not to get any losses yourself. But to get sustainable losses for you and not sustainable for the enemy. Russia does that.

>>510836001
He's hoping they don't use up all the churka meat before pulling him out of his apartment to go get droned in a golfcart inferno.

>>510787015 (OP)
>how can you claim russia is winning when they only expanded their territory at the cost of my made up numbers?????
regardless of the casualties, defending your national security by preventing the establishment of a foreign power at your throat is worth the sacrifice. Nato bases in finland and sweden pose a significantly lower danger then they would in ukraine. currently, there is no point pushing through with risky manoeuvres when you can just slowly grind away your enemies defences until there us no one left to fight. War of attrition is a numbers game. The only reason the US lost in afghanistan is because their occupation was immediate leading to a 20 year insurgency, if you eliminate anyone who would man the insurgency at the beginning you effectively save yourself the trouble later on. If the casualty numbers were real, then ukraine should have no issue pushing through with their counteroffensives and yet every single counteroffensive has failed to achieve meaningful results despite everyone in russia’s armed forced having died three times over already.

>>510787015 (OP)
>It's worth less than what your spending
you're*

>https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/natural-resources-ukraine-war-1.6467039
"The eastern Donbas region, where most of the fighting has taken place over the last eight years, is often referred to as the industrial heartland of Ukraine. Rich in coal, it has helped fire the steel plants, foundries and electric generators of the country for a century, or more"

>The eastern Donbas region, where most of the fighting has taken place over the last eight years

"Roughly 80 per cent of Ukraine's oil, natural gas and coal production reserves can be found in the Dnieper-Donetsk region, which has been the major focus of Russia's military operations "

Equally importantly, Ukraine is thought to have the second-largest natural gas deposits in Europe, estimated at 1.2 trillion cubic metres of proven reserves — and possibly up to 5.4 trillion cubic metres, much of it the now-contested offshore Black Sea region.

The gains Russia has made thus far in the invasion mean Moscow now has control of two thirds of its neighbour's maritime shelf, which is where an estimated 80 per cent of Ukraine's offshore oil and natural gas deposits are found.

>"Moscow now has control of two thirds of its neighbour's maritime shelf, which is where an estimated 80 per cent of Ukraine's offshore oil and natural gas deposits are found"

How will Putler ever recover?

>>510812651
>Lose breadbasket of Europe.
>Gain desert shithole.
What a stunning NATO victory for the Greater Israel project.

>>510820307
Every day there are fewer Ukrainians and more Colombian mercenaries.

>>510837519
>What a stunning NATO victory
It was precisely what they set out to do.

>>510838202
>Colombian mercenaries
The sephardi jews?

>>510838227
Seems fucking retarded, but we live in a world where being retarded is the default.

>>510839431
>Seems fucking retarded, but we live in a world where being retarded is the default.
I was about to ask if you aren't a little slow yourself, anon.
nato is just a veneer for the loxist americans.
Its a "defensive" that requires military occupation and enforces policy against its "members" that the Geneva convention defined as genocide.