Thread 510799401

Total cost of McMansion: $1.47M (bricks $0)

What the fuck is wrong with these windows nigga
Cannot unsee how fucked the glazing is.

>>510799401 (OP)
There's plenty of houses made of brick in the USA

>>510799401 (OP)
Why is everything inflated there, the value of those things needs to drop, or the value of the $

What the fuck is going on with American architects?

I've seen kids design better houses in Minecraft.

What's the point of all those small additions. Like, the very front part that's gratuitously half-a-meter outside from the rest of the wall. Do they think this adds character?!

>>510799401 (OP)
I'd rather live in the US than anywhere else on the planet.

You swede cucks just hand your daughters over to shitskins with fucking anti-rape bracelets.

At least in the US they have the right to shoot violent niggers.

These houses are good for autistic people, don't break your hand if you punch a wall.

>>510799401 (OP)
>buy cheap land
>still build the house out of twigs and cardboard

why are sharts like this? almost every single new development here is steel framed houses.

Imagine if an American had designed pic related.

There would be 50 different roofs and 75 kinds of windows, and no symetry whatsoever.

>>510799616
You haven't been paying attention if you think you're allowed to touch the US' golden animals, even in self defense. Hurt a nigger's feefees = jail time.

>>510799401 (OP)
All that just so they can raise the next generation of goyim cattle, usually one or two as they aren't shitting out 9-10 goylets like they used to.

This is the American dream.

>>510799401 (OP)
I mean it's hideous but it's gigantic and you get a lot of land with it
Pic related here costs about the same

>>510799401 (OP)
just work hard and you can buy your mcmansion soon NOT.

ITS OBVIOUSLY BETTER TO HAVE A DADDY AND GROW UP IN MCMANSION AND JUST GET YOU DEGREE AND DADDY BUYS YOU A CAR AND YOU GET THE 150k CODING GIG, RETARDS.

>>510799562
>Why is everything inflated there
Ask yourself what increases GDP more? It's also the reason this house will fall down/be abandoned within 25 years.

>>510799401 (OP)
imagine paying more to shape the land than you did for the land itself.
250k on fucking foundations is ridiculous, you could cave the foundation into solid bedrock for that price.

stacy will go to expensive private schools and you retards will sit there and wonder why you get no fucking job that pays anything.
>UH UHm uhhHHh HE TOLD ME THAT 2 DORRAR ARE ENOUGH
MAYBE NEXT TIME YOU HAVE BETTER LUCK WHEN YOU STOP BEING A FUCKING RETARD, nigger.

could have gone to an illustration college but it was 30k for one year so i didnt because i dont have parents to pay for that. so now im neeting. thank you parents and society for turning me into a useless neet.
>this is all your fault

"You don't understand you guys, I just HAVE to build my house out of matchsticks! I just HAVE to!".
Also yeah all of those prices are a fucking ripoff and I'm kinda sick of us all being told "oh well, that's what it costs now!" while it seems the top 1% just keeps hoovering up every bit of wealth and value.

>>510799846
Only if you go peacefully

> 1.47$ mill house
> These cheap ass floors

>>510799401 (OP)
People get 100k in burgerland for improperly answering emails in burgerland with their useless degrees. If you see it through that lense all those prices make sense.
Also those bricks must have been really cheap for 0 dollars.

>>510800549
It's about durability in high traffic areas

>>510799677
I wouldnt be so sure about that.

>>510799401 (OP)
>1-2 day job
>$86,000

>>510799604
Those are cascading gables added on to break up the walls on massive 800 sqft rooms. And give the appearance that there's more going on to this piece of shit than there is. Meant to resemble the various wings and additions on manor houses/mansions. It's poor people's version of rich.

>>510799401 (OP)
You can taste the SSRI's in this picture.

>>510799826
We have those, they're just not for the new rich.

>>510799401 (OP)
Comfy

>>510799401 (OP)
>paying 1,5kk to live in the desert
OH SAY CANT YOU SEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>510799401 (OP)
>8200 sqft
Thats an actual mansion lol

Cheap Yoorotrash FREE MASONIC Colony , on the go!!

BUY YOURS HEAR! (most profits go to pissrael) :^)

>>510799401 (OP)
Americans are fucking retarded

>>510800591
We have plastic floors made to look like wood. It's the most durable thing there is. It's only €13/m2 (pic related) you'll see that in homes of people with not alot of money. In a home of a million + you expect hardwood oak.

that will be 1.5 million dollars plus the tip of my dick

>>510800411
There's nothing wrong with building a house with wood.

>>510800955
that shit is making all kinds of sounds now.
I'm going to replace it with tiles.
I can't stand the noise.

>>510799401 (OP)
Material costs for a typical amerimutt house are arund 100-120K USD depending on price fluctuations. Labor costs are around 50K (2000 hours of labor)

>>510800997
ya there is. steel is better.

260K to pour 10K worth of concrete

And it all blows down in the first bad storm because the whole thing is made of toothpicks and cardboard.

>>510799401 (OP)
>a few shitty pinewood cabinets
>almost 100k
Are yanks ok with being jewed like this?

>>510800137
kiked price but looks comfy and respects traditional dutch styles

>>510801149
Steel is more expensive but less maintenance. People used to know how to maintain their own houses, and could actually build them. Now its a bunch of retarded yuppies who can't even use a drill.

>>510801101
That's because the person who layed your floor didn't acclimatized it for 48 hours in the room before they layed it.

>>510801105
I want to buy land and get a modular ranch home for like 150k.

>>510800955
You see it everywhere here. Most homes in this country are terrible. So much from the 30s or 60s that needs massive renovations. Yet Dutch low quality housing is some of the most expensive in Eurozone.

>>510799401 (OP)
>2 acre lot
All that money to have loud ass neighbors move in next door within sight and earshot. Why not buy a smaller house but get 10 acres so you can’t see or hear anyone?

>>510799401 (OP)
I looked up some random houses in
the US and you can get a ten bed that looks to be brick built for $120k.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/569-W-21st-Ave-Gary-IN-46407/73412792_zpid/
Doesn’t seem bad at all

>>510801567
Thats what I want lol.
>>510801494
There's a huge movement here now to renovate old homes. Its good preservation and you can make good money doing it too.

86k for paint?!?! Is he painting his walls with gold flakes? How are Amerisharts so fucking retarded. Truly got cattle

>>510801628
>Gary Indiana
>Doesn't seem bad
Kek

>>510800549
My problem is the narrow hallways that can't even let the average sized mutt pass.

>>510801268
You see that furniture? This house hasn't been touched by its lazy boomer owners since the 60s/70s, you need to gut it and redo everything. You're paying 1.2 million to pay another 100k on top minimum depending on how fucked the roof etc is. That house shouldn't be more than 400k and that's only because detached houses here are quite rare, would be probably 200k in Italy or France. We are so royally screwed if this is more than a million.

>>510800851
What was he thinking?

>>510799401 (OP)
I'm sorry did that say
>drywall: $71,000
a 4x8 panel of sheet rock costs less than $15 at bulk rate. You can get a carton of 9,000 drywall nails for $150 off the top. That would be $70,850 left to spend on sheet rock, which would equate to just over 4,720 individual sheet rock pieces.

Now let's assume, for ease of math, you are doing the entire house with vaulted ceilings, so all of your walls run 8 feet high on all floors. Let's also assume your house has 4 floors of equal square footage. Neither of those assumptions holds true but let's just assume for the ease of math that you are building a really fucking tall house here.

If each sheet rock piece covers 4 feet of wall, and each you have 4 floors, that means you have 4,720 feet of wall PER FLOOR. A typical large-sized room in a house is 15 feet to a side. So that would mean 60 feet of wall per room, on average. At 60 feet of wall per room, and 4,720 feet of wall per floor, you're talking about an average of 78 rooms PER FLOOR. Again for ease of math, let's assume that hallways and stairwells are essentially "rooms"; longer on one side but shorter on another so the average evens out, and we'll subtract 18 "rooms" per floor to account for hallways, stairwells and such.

That's 60 rooms per floor, in a 4 story house, for a total of 240 rooms, ALL with 8 foot vaulted ceilings and ALL the size of a typical American living room.

No, my nigger. No way you spent $71,000 on drywall.

>>510801628
>10 beds, 5 baths
>that

This is some awful disgusting flophouse that in a more just society wouldn't be allowed to even exist at all.

>>510801628
Is the rest of the house underground?

>>510800137
>I mean it's hideous but it's gigantic and you get a lot of land with it
2 acres is a lot?
For you. In the Netherlands yeah I guess it is.

>>510801793
Is labor free?

>>510801628
>Gary

>>510799846
Niggers get shot in the act of doing crime several times a day here. Same as always.

>>510800815
HAHAHAHAHA
The fuck is THAT?

>>510799401 (OP)
Real estate values are dependent on three factors.
>location
>location
>location

Sorry you don’t understand this.

>>510801980
That's what freedom looks like.

>>510801748
Have to be thinking defensively. Narrow hallways = more effective kill funnel

>>510801494
My home is from the 60's and it's actually a pretty solid build. I did take a new roof and had the chimney re-grouted, the rest of the house i grouted myself and it wasn't to bad. Probl have to renew the sewerage soon because that's also 60 years old. But I got my home for a steal and everything I put in to it I'll get back in twofold with this housing market.

I can’t get over paying over a million dollars just to still have visible neighbors in close proximity and likely an HOA with busybody carpetbagger leftists who walk around every morning at 6 am taking notes on everyone’s properties. If you got that kind of money, go innawoods and get some land in a rural area if you work remote. Paying all that money just to live around other people where you can hear them talking and slamming car doors when you’re trying to sleep is stupid.

>>510799401 (OP)
lol bricks

>>510799401 (OP)
>kitchen cabinets
>$87000
What the fuck.

>>510800997
You're like a pajeet claiming there's nothing wrong with building a house with your own shit, saar.

The texas floods *alone* clearly illustrate that you're dumb fucking niggers who need to stop building houses with potato chips.

>>510801628
This is a bunker

>>510801793
>No, my nigger. No way you spent $71,000 on drywall
Most of it was likely on the installation and joint work / plaster guys.
For some reason people will still fully plaster over dry wall instead of just the screws and joints.

>>510801921
Nigga we don't even get to own the land our house is on. We have to pay rent on it to the municipality, lmao and that's true for apartments also which are not even touching the ground, you can shill out an extra 20% on the price to buy the air above the ground your apartment stands on though
I would kill for a square km of land

>>510802048
Freedom to do what?
Die when that pile of ass collapses in on itself?

>>510799604
To put it in your terms. They’re speedrunning and minmaxing to optimize house quantity

Which way Hispanic man?

>>510799507
Isn't that just plastic protecting the windows they pull it off when it's all done.

>>510799401 (OP)
>$87,000 on cabinets

Ffs

The problem with modern capitalism is that prices that were only inflated exclusively to wash money and therefore were never realistic have now seeped into the general market, and people are too retarded to understand that and think this is the norm.
The administrative costs and commissions of the black market have destroyed the free market.

>>510802168
The freedom to have my own commune compound.

>>510800164
Probably a son of some Developer whos dad earns millions and will pass his company to his son.

Otherwise, just taxes on this retarded McMantion will be $15-25K / year.

>>510802164
The fuck are you talking about? Leasehold is very uncommon in the Netherlands. Almost everyone owns the ground their house is sitting on. And if you want a sq/km of land just go to Limburg or Friesland and pay €20k

>>510799604
They're built mismatched and lopsided to more easily hide framing and materials issues.

>>510801937
Then rephrase the statement. You didn't spend $71,000 on drywall.

You spent let's say $1200 on drywall, and $69,800 on paying someone to hang the drywall.

But is that even true? According to the first Google result I got, the average wage for someone who does home construction is $45/hr. If you spent $69,800 on labor, at $45/hr, that means a total of 1,551 man-hours of labor installing drywall. If there are 40 hours of labor in a work week, that's 38 work weeks of labor on hanging drywall. That means it would take a crew of 6 full-time laborers six and a half weeks just to hang the sheet rock in your house.

Again, going off of the first Google results, I'm getting, it should take a seasoned crew of 6 people just under a week and a half to get it done.

So, once again, no, my nigger. No way you spent $71,000 drywall + paying someone to hang the drywall.

>>510801231
>260K to pour 10K worth of concrete
Yeah he got ripped of by italian mafia concrete construction company.
Should have made 3-4 quotes.
Heck, even hiring mexicans (he's in the south? mexicans should be everywhere) would have been 1/10 of the cost.

I’ve been reading a lot of American history and it’s so interesting how they traded land in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. Planters could own over a hundred thousand acres of farmland and military officers were given sometimes 5,000 -10,000 acres for their service. Even Irish immigrants who came to the colonies with nothing could buy a few hundred acres in the Appalachian mountains after a few years working. I think even the most impoverished members of society had at least 10-20 acres to call their own.

>>510802164
I had no idea
My apologies
I know more about Germany than elsewhere
I have a small farm
Bought it on a foreclosure back after the 07/08 crash.
House is a early 20th century craftsman type bungalow
Whoever built it, did it correctly.
House faces north so the sun never hits the big front porch directly
Big windows to catch the breezes - because everything was built pre-air conditioning
Walls are foot thick horsehair and plaster over lath - there is not a stick of soft wood in this house. Even the moldings are poplar.
The floor joists are like battleship joists - stupidly oversized. Hardwood floors.
It's been on this hill like a little Sumo for a hundred years and I expect it to be here a hundred more.
We had a water problem in the basement because it's situated on a natural spring and hydraulic pressure over the last century forced water into the basement, but we put in a french drain and a pump to keep that out of our lives.
It could use a chimney repointing and some new siding and that will happen next year
Maybe new iron railings for the porch

>>510799401 (OP)
>This is what millionaires are doing with the tax breaks we give them

I take it all back, the liberals were right. We need to tax these people at 90% immediately because they clearly have no idea how to spend their excess money reasonably

>>510802399
He hired a contractor, who went with the cheapest labor. Cheapest labor is mexicans.
He got a quote for the total job. Contractor hired 6-8 mexicans who worked 2 shifts.
Total probably 12-16 people. At $10-15/ hour.

The rest of the money was pocketed by the contractor.

>>510801646
1) paint is relatively expensive in america
2) the majority of the cost of "paint" is not the paint, it is the labor of /painting/ ... likely only about 10% of that, or approx 8.6k of that was the paint itself.

You ever painted a house, anon? Or, in this case, about six in a row?

>>510802152
It hides defects and adds labor cost.

>>510799401 (OP)
The house is $150k. Not being victimized by nonwhites costs $1.3M on top.

>>510799401 (OP)
Jesus. Why people still live in the west?

Got a light turquoise ID

I spent 900k buying a house and about another 150k fixing it up. 160 square metres. Near an airport. Near everything actually. Hour walk to city centre or 20 mins if you bike/drive or bus. No poors.

It's beautiful

>>510802399
Now you know why developers are so fucking rich. They are ripping is off.

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>>510800997
Resisting natural disasters would be one benefit I can think of.

>>510801324
it made no sounds 5+ years.

>>510802301
Certified based schizo home

>>510802048
The house is fine, just don't sneeze.

>>510802775
Why would you not just take that and get an existing small house and some land out in the countryside?
Here, the rule is:
>small house + big barn = working farm
>big house + small barn = show farm
Small houses are easier to heat and cool and maintain
Yes, you are farther from amenities, but then again, you are also farther from the invaders
Which in itself is a two edged sword - you remove the problem of invaders from your life but you also make it more difficult for help to get to you in case the invaders come looking
Best medicine for invaders is a 12 gauge shotgun with No. 1 Buckshot in a 3" mag.
Each pellet is .30 caliber, and there are 27 of them in one shell. Being hit by one is like being shot by a 30 caliber rifle 27 times, provided all the pellets hit.
I have not heard a siren in... I can't remember.
Maybe 5 years? Longer?
I think the last time was an ambulance responding to someone injured at the boat landing about 2 miles from here.

>>510802089
you are just as retarded as the boomers

>>510802376
yeah only in the major cities which is where most people tend to live?
I would get too bored to live in the middle of nowhere, ideally I'd live close to the city but not in the city, but the house I posted is in a tiny village in Noord holland and it's still impossibly priced

>>510802444
Congrats, sounds enviable. My wife is from Italy and I fantasize about moving there in a 100 year old house with a lot of land but it's not going to happen until I figure out a job that will allow me to make money from home

>>510803109
I suggested living in the countryside to my gf who is from the bavarian country side (which is heaven on earth) and she said no way. Too boring.

>>510799401 (OP)
Money can't buy taste. That thing is ugly as hell. Nothing wrong with wood frame construction though - strong, long-lasting and renewable.

>>510803109
Oh wow. 3/4 of your post is schizo ranting about how your country infested with dangerous blacks and browns.

Its safe in Ireland. Everywhere.

Is concrete very expensive or is wood just very cheap in the US?

>>510802598
My initial assumption was that this was a contractor justifying the sale price of a house he built rather than an owner line-iteming the cost, so you're right there. And I will confess my math was a bit short-sighted because I used a 2-3k square foot home estimate for the time-to-drywall but he does state the house itself is 8600 square feet, so the labor cost would theoretically be tripled, and that's a much bigger footprint than the "average home" I used in my wall math.

So hey, let's revisit that drywall math a little more carefully, and work it in the reverse order. An average room is about 225 square feet (14x16 feet), with a total perimeter of 60 feet, or about 15 pieces of drywall. With an 8600 square foot floor plan and assuming 3 stories (again, that's generous, the house is not 8 foot vaulted ceilings in every room on all 3 stories and all 3 stories do not occupy the total footprint, the basement and upper floor will be smaller, there's nothing above the garage, etc) that's 115 "total rooms", at an average of 15 pieces of drywall per room, which is 1,725 pieces of drywall, at approximately $14 a piece, so actually $24,150 total materials.

Assume it takes 6 workers 10 days to hang drywall in a 3,000 square foot home; a 9,000 square foot home would take 30 days. That's 1,440 man hours of labor at $45 an hour so $64,800 in total cost.

So if you add the cost and the materials together for a house of that size, it's not really that egregious, actually. Obviously I'm overestimating the total amount of sheetrock to be bought and hung by quite a bit here, but the overheads aren't actually terribly obscene. I guess it's just crazy how much bigger an 8600 square foot house really is than the typical size of 2500 square feet.

>>510803210
Should have gone with boring
I like boring
I have lived "not boring" - I will take boring every time
That is how I know about things like "What cartridge is the best close-quarters anti-personnel round available off the shelf just short of a grenade launcher?"
We are Suebi - very near from your wife in Bavaria.
Bavaria
Swabia
Moravia
Bohemia
Silesia
Francia
Basically old HRE.
Where we live now looks very much like where my wife's people are from and where my people are from - which is not all that far from each other at all
Green and mountainous

>>510802399
>he believes that the wage result he googled is all it costs to pay an employee at a construction company.
Insurance, bonds, workman’s comp, employee benefits, etc.

>>510800815
Mad Max: the house

>>510799616
You shouldn't allow memes to blind you anon.
Sweden is still a paradise in comparison with the US of A.

>>510803462
Where i live in the city is boring. Not boring is 20 minutes away. Safety is total.

>>510803268
>Its safe in Ireland. Everywhere.
heh...
You trying to convince me or yourself?

>>510799401 (OP)
The more gable ends a house has the higher the social status of the McMansion owner.

>>510799604
USA houses are all clown buildings.

Wouldnt get permits in Europe for their cardboard mcmansions because of all the violations and low quality.

>>510803359
>r at $45 an hour
Nah mexicans worked or illegals, who got paid $10-15 / hour.
The total isn't actually bad now that I think about it.

>>510803558
You are the one saying you need to be remote and armed to be safe. Lots of americans seem to agree.

>>510800110
makes me think of beach vacations to florida, carolinas :)

>>510803641
I mean, I'm making the honest assumption that the workers made an average wage for the industry. It's easy to prove
>you were ripped off by an exploitative kike
If you just assume that the workers were paid way under market rate and the contractor pocketed the difference, but that's not really illustrative of anything. Which was rather my entire point, was to show just how much overhead was hidden in these obscene costs, but really I was undone by my own math and it seems like it's just how expensive it is to build a house that's the size of 3 fucking houses.

>>510802321
>son of some Developer
>build new house in cozy quiet suburb
>have all the tools and tractor equipment to do their own landscaping every night
many such cases where i am

>>510803638
Developers and contractors are crabs in a bucket addicted to slave labor, all in a race to the bottom
I would not buy a house in the US made after 1930 unless I was in very dire straits
Anything made in the 50's and 60's is just aesthetically repellent to me. Not interested in anything after that.

>>510802106
Labor. They didn't do anything themselves. They just hired an expensive contractor that employees Mexicans to do everything (for maximum profit). I bet if you looked at the work, it's absolute trash. That house will probably need to be gutted in 10 years. I bet the bathrooms only make it 2-3. The "custom" shower will likely be all fucked up and growing mushrooms. American houses (built recently) are absolutely disgusting. The quality that people are willing to pay $1million+ for is absolutely insane. In the 90s a million dollar house meant it was a pretty quality build. It's a race to the bottom of the barrel... For maximum profit of course.

>t. Ex construction white man

>>510800549
It's an intentional choice. LVP flooring is kinda ugly but it's durable, no upkeep, and won't get water damaged. Nice to have with kids and dogs.

>>510803696
>You are the one saying you need to be remote and armed to be safe.
Yes. Well, safer. You cannot be completely safe - no place is. It's about risk minimization. I traded convenience for distance from the invaders. Plus, I grow my own food here. Raise some livestock. Planted fruit and nut trees.
I guy I respect - Joel Skousen - wrote a series of books on strategic relocation. He's a good man. Military pilot, engineer. Pretty impressive guy.
I read his work and I agree with his assessments.
I would not live in a city if you paid me. Cities produce nothing.
>Lots of americans seem to agree.
Also yes.

>>510803979
I have only visited new york and what I found most interesting is that our poor live like the richest new yorkers do.

>>510803979
80% of Americans live in cities.

If you don't live in a city, you're not really American.
You're culturally and demographically insignificant.
You're a good powerless goy.

>>510804064
Why?
Why would you say that?

>>510804064
Agreed, but NYC is a fishtank - a unique situation and not indicative of the rest of the US.
Or even anywhere that's not NYC.
One of the things you pick up along the way is that people who are isolated on islands develop weird accents over long periods of time.
NYC is one of those cases - until the Brooklyn bridge was built, the only way to reach it was by boat.
I find the NYC accent to be... physically repellent.
There is an island off the coast of the Carolinas that is inhabited solely by the descendants of runaway slaves and is unconnected to the rest of the US
After 150 years of isolation, they are unintelligible.

>>510804285
>purity test
>You're not REALLY an American
Good.

>>510802898
Which is why you use wood. Have you ever seen what an earthquake does to stone constructions? What about tornadoes? You may have deadly wildlife but here the ground and the air itself try to kill you

>>510804483
Purity test? Are you this fucking retarded?

It's very simple: America is the cities. If you are out of the cities you're not Americaning.

Let me do a dumb down analogy amerimutts may understand.

Let's imagine there are niggers auditioning to play football.
And only 80% of niggers get to play.
The other 20% of niggers who get to watch are not really playing.
Got it?
Good mutt!

>>510800606
>Be me
>Autistic retard
>Saw a lot of memes about drywall
>Drunk one day
>Want to test it out, so I punch the wall full force
>Hit a stud
>Hand hurts for two weeks

>>510804316
Dont worry. They will never see my post.

>>510799846
You don't know what the hell you're talking about. If any nigger on the street tries anything with me I can plug them fucking dead and walk away Scott fucking free the same fucking hour. It happens every fucking day.

>>510804589
This is where I live
>THAT"S NOT AMERICANING
>Trust me, I'm from Portugal
If you say so.
The difference between me and you is a herd animal and a pack animal.
My worldview is not dependent on outside validation.
Yours is.

>>510799401 (OP)
The 5-car garage is already unsightly, but can anyone explain the super tall garage on the end? Is this for parking his excavator?

>>510799401 (OP)
My parents are selling their house which has 4x the land and even at 60% of the size of this its entirely too big. If this cost 1.5 million im hopeful they will actually get their asking price of 575k

>>510804710
Probably a boat or an RV
We see them here.
Big tour busses the size of a Burger King heading to the boat landing, starting every Thursday evening like clockwork
They cost more than my farm and everything on it
Seriously - my son saw one when we were driving to the hardware store and pulled his phone out and looked it up.
$800,000 for an RV.

>>510799604
They are often impossible to flash properly

T. Roofer

>>510804653
It just did not make sense to me. While NY is a shithole and Ireland is very... well off financially and more decent than most... in NY there are still a significant number of really rich guys.

Half of the Irish are still proles, or at least it's what I've been told.

>>510804705
You're just fucking coping.
How is what I wrote dependent on validation? It's the most objective fact there is.
Enjoy your gay reservation though. Coward.

>>510804855
Muttmerica is looking more like (old) China everyday...

>>510799401 (OP)
I just wanted a Mc5090

>>510804946
>How is what I wrote dependent on validation? It's the most objective fact there is.
"If you are not living with the rest of the herd, then you're not one of them"
Yes.
My worldview is not dependent on outside validation.
I am right because I know I am right, not because someone else says I am or approves.
>Enjoy your gay reservation though. Coward.
Point proven.
Thanks for being so affable

>>510799401 (OP)
This guy's cabinets are worth more than everything I have in my bank accounts.

>>510804946
In new york you cant see the sky. The air is bad. The food is inferior. Constant noise. Apartments only. Our poor live in houses with gardens. They can see the sky. Eat "luxury food". Breath clean air and have quiet. Changing of course.

>>510802428
It used to be a perk of the gig. The government gave all land around where railroads were built to the railroad companies who would then give it to the workers for cheap labor

>>510805069
>Living in a centre of power is living with a herd
>Livining like a slave outside the centre of power with fucking cows and shit is not living with a herd

Go fuck yourself dumb Amerimutt.
Maybe you shouldn't have been educated by jews in a jew country.
Try to grow some IQ by reading a book one of these days.
I bet you quitt high school too
>to not join le herd

That's a bridezilla McMansion. Those kids will be raised by a single mom in a smaller house.

>>510799401 (OP)
In certain areas of the country, brick houses were detrimental. Specifically in areas with frequent earthquakes. Most of the damage and death in residential areas from earthquakes in CA were due to brick/masonry construction. Though anything built now like that would essentially be "earthquake-proof", so that only explains historical building, not anything within the last forty years. Note that some of the blame for woodframe comes from regulation and permitting, not strictly to build the house as cheaply as possible (chicken or the egg argument). I'm a big fan of steel frames rather than brick, but that's not an affordable solution for most people.

>>510805208
I kneel.
But that's sort of disengeneous. Those rich jews in NYC can get on their private plane and buy that "poor man's Ireland" or whatever they want.

But whatever.

>>510805109
I have nothing in my bank accounts - why would I do that?
Banks are untrustworthy
Why keep currency in them?
Go ask the Greeks about that.
Plus, you're only getting 0.001% interest while they use whatever you have on deposit to play the jew slot machine/wall street
A simple life lived well, anon

>>510805243
Americans drive the equivalent distance of your entire country by the millions for weekend road trips. Also
>living in a centre [sic] of power
only makes sense if you actually have access to use that power. As it is an average white man is treated far worse by these cities than feudal peasants ever were. I know it, and you know it

>>510805319
Its less that ireland is amazing and more that poor people in new york have a very bad deal. Ah but ireland does not have basketball and rap music. So maybe we are worse off.

>>510805243
Nothing pisses you off more than seeing someone look at the dystopian shitholes/golem created by jews, rejecting it outright and saying
>Nah, I don't think I will.
>I think I will go my own way
Stay seething mad

>>510805446
1) As if that's a brag.

2) That's exactly a consequence of you fags having retreated for any venue of power.
You must conquer the cities and remake them in your own image or perish.
And you've all already chosen to perish.

>>510805623
>Rejecting it
>Is still in USA
>It's just a layer below slave class

I'm not seething.
I'm trying to educate you.

>>510802298
Deep and philosophical.

houses should be built in factories
https://www.boxabl.com/

>>510805643
You sound young and naive.
>Just go conquer it bro
That's not how the actual world works.
Or you are a disingenuous bad faith non-person.

>>510800549
Americans wear their shoes in their homes so cheap flooring is necessary.

>>510800815
looks like a fallout 76 camp

>>510799401 (OP)
Thats a barn. Barns are made of wood. Houses are made of bricks or rocks.
You have been scammed. They sold you a barn for the price of a house.

>>510805643
What exactly should I, as a white man who doesn’t live in a city, do to “conquer” it? Keep in mind there’s four levels of governments (that are the global power centers of zog) and the most power intelligence apparatus that has ever existed on the other side of this fight, but that’s no big deal, so go on, what should I do? And don’t pussy out of this by being vague, I walk out of my house and then, I… you can fill in the rest

>>510799401 (OP)
Damn I gotta get into the house building business. Imagine coming to paint someone's house and scamming them for $86k. That's a whole year's salary for painting one house which doesn't even take more than a couple days. This can't be real or they're straight up retarded. These people would have really benefited from a barndo build and DIYing at least the easy things. Probably rich and don't care.

>>510803268
>Its safe in Ireland. Everywhere.
Is this a post from early 1990s Ireland?

>>510801149
Not the way it's done for housing. Steel studs are absolutely coin clipped paper thin U channel that can barely hold a picture frame. It's beyond retarded.

>>510799401 (OP)
OSB subflooring in the bathroom = you got scammed.

>>510806347
Where exactly is unsafe?

>>510800740
>We have those
Where?

>>510799401 (OP)
>half of the house if the garage

>>510806401
I think he's talking about steel framing. If I had a steel framed house, I'd want the studs, joists, and rafters to be made of wood.

>>510799401 (OP)
why do americans insist on building such fucked up roofs? Look at that shit. Looks like shit. Tasteless pavement outside... Also looks like some fucking retard designed it with the garage doors.

>>510806303
Following regs and other nonsense, it probably took a few weeks to paint. Everything hoarded, matted, and prepped. Installation of scaffolding for anything higher than 8', ceilings etc. The fucked way the house is chopped up means more cutting, neurotic jew bitch he's likely married to would have changed her mind regarding colour at least a half dozen times as well. Cha-ching.

>>510799616
maybe in a few years youll get american cock out of your mouth and realize it isnt what you think it is. -I did for the record. Your country for the record is probably the least interesting in the west. During 2020 it was obvious what a shithole you live in. Its like a shittier spin-off halflife with drones snapping your photo every 2 minutes telling you to go inside, ugly faggot

>>510806843
>If I had a steel framed house, I'd want the studs, joists, and rafters to be made of wood.
That's pretty much all the framing in wood then. Steel I-beam is pretty good, but it does like to flex over time so it needs to be supported properly. Which in modern construction is often overlooked.
If you could weld up a house out of 1/4" epoxy coated square bar you'd be laughing, bitch would never move, but it's just not how it's done.

>>510799826
you could fit so many jews in that attic

>>510802089
> it's actually a pretty solid build

> new roof
> chimney re-grouted
> isolation probably fucked
> renewing sewage

That kind of proves my point of most housing here being of very low quality that is in need of renovation.

> everything I put in to it I'll get back in twofold with this housing market.

Only if you leave this country otherwise you'll have to buy back a similarly overpriced house. The funny thing about the Dutch ponzi market is that you can refinance a new home purchase with the interest rate of the previous home. So enjoy the locked in 1.8% or lower for life anon.

>>510801630
You have it here but honestly there isn't much money anymore in renovating and you can very much end up losing money. Most of them are attached houses from the 30s or 60s that are between 80m2 to 110m2 (850 - 1100 sq/ft). They are going for 400-450k euro in the bigger cities and they come with 100k in renovation costs. You get the benefit of also being among ayrabs who rent it for 400 / month through social housing.

I hope they don't need any heating or cooling. The cost of those in a year will be more than they paid for materials of the house.

>>510799826
you actually buy those in Germany
and they cost around the same as the house in OP

>>510799401 (OP)
>Look at me and my family. Aren't you happy for us? We're so rich and happy.
Don't these people understand that they are going to be French Revolution'ed by the masses? Social media is just a taunt, where normal people are made to feel bad about their lives. With the economic situation getting worse, this taunting has a real chance, and has already I would argue, to incite people into mass violence. You fucks who brag about your lives are being real fucking stupid. You rich fucks who beat down on those beneath you, calling them stupid or lazy, are also real fucking stupid. Read a fucking history book. I'm trying to help you faggots.

>>510799846
nah, the jew media picks 1 golden ticket nigger every few years to put on a pedestal for political chicanery. in real life thousands of feral nigs get dropped annually and nobody gives a shit. in other words yer gettin hoodwinked by jews again dumbass.

>>510799401 (OP)
Is the wood buildings just for cost or something to do with the heat?

>>510799401 (OP)
do americans know what 'dream home' means or is a mass produced cardboard warehouse really their dream

>>510805243
>centre of power
that's a funny way to say kill zone

>>510807943
Its material + labour costs, imagine paying bricklayers to do that entire house

>>510807943
Can be assembled for less and more quickly than brick. With modern chemical treatments they are SUPPOSED to last as long as a brick home. I would be highly suspicious tho. Especially in a place as damp as ireland.

>>510799401 (OP)
it's still crazy to me how much money these people have to waste. the top 20-25% of earners are doing great in America, but everyone else is having a much harder time.

>>510807838
>French Revolution'ed by the masses
lol dumbass. those pricks are middle class, they're not wealthy. they'll be paying that mortgage for 50 years.

>Land $185k (12.6%)
Waste of money. Building should be 12.6%

>>510802114
Maybe they shouldn't build houses in a fucking flood zone

>>510807002
This guy knows his contracting hellhole.
I once had a woman tell me which direction she wanted 500ft2 of tile flooring run. I installed and she CHANGED HER FUCKING MIND. YUP.

>>510804285
>80% of Americans live in cities.
Lol are you retarded?

>>510808136
It doesn't matter if their middle class. What matters is perception and relative wealth you fucking faggot. Those who revolted in France weren't that bad off, but in comparison to the nobility their lives weren't as good, and to have that contrast was what set them off.

>>510806482
They're shoveling non Whites into every possible place they can. What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

>>510799401 (OP)
they saw that guy coming. all those mexicans being paid peanuts and those costs are so high.

>>510808063
>imagine paying bricklayers to do that entire house

If my budged was over a million like them then Id do a much smaller house in brick ( I don't know if they trap heat since that looks like desert) since that just feels more permanent and safer to me.

>>510808339
So where exactly is unsafe anon.l? Give me a location.

>>510800815
S O V L

>>510808152
yeah honestly what the fuck were they thinking? $185k for a patch of desert? i'm more of a mountain guy.

>>510799401 (OP)
>Ju call zat a HOUZE? Where are ze BRICKZ honhon-ACK

>>510799401 (OP)
>2025
>still building houses with sticks

>>510808406
In my area an aacross undeveloped land can be 100k ngl. Its a nice area though.

>>510804843
>$800,000 for an RV
The "I hate my children and give no fucks about my posterity" boomer advanced package.

>>510808406
The view is gorgeous. 17k is great but I bet there's a ton of hidden fees and regs.

>>510808449
What the fuck are they doing

>>510808406
hill ya

>>510808338
nice power fantasy you're overdosing on douchebag. can't and won't happen here, it's geographically unfeasible.

>>510800815
>2Bdrm
>2Bathrm

>>510804433
>until the Brooklyn bridge was built, the only way to reach it was by boat.
really?

>>510800270
>250k on fucking foundations is ridiculous
Right? That's insane, I'm assuming this has to include permits and greasing other hands required to actually break ground (runs in the 6 figures in parts of California).

>>510799604
>Do they think this adds character?!
Yeah, that's it.

>>510802301
It's not fancy but it sure looks cozy. I'd be happy living there.

Fleeced on every single item, ugly as fuck, and worst of all, that's texas isn't it...

>>510808449
>pre-fab modular pressboard shitwood
too fucking cheap and lazy to use old school wood working methods

>>510800671
>poor people's
*Low class.
$1.47 million is not considered poor, yet.

>>510800740
not true, you just need to know where to look. if you have the money its yours.

>>510808600
It will happen in the cities and the suburbs. This will spillover to be worldwide as well. All the ingredients are there, and the protests and violence are a sign of the building pressure, just like before a volcano blows.

>>510799401 (OP)
>86k for paint
>87k for some shitty cabinets
>47k for floor
>90k basement
i mean i know that guy is a retard, but 90k to finish a basement, did he put a bunker in there or something? also he could do the painting, the floors and cabinets/furniture himself without wasting 200k
the fuck is a misc?
>still in the middle of nowhere and need to drive an hour or more for something

>>510804285
took a bit to find the pic. this is 2018, it's only gotten less urban since covid.

These are just vanity houses.
Most of the rooms stay empty or become storage rooms.
Anything bigger than a 5 bedroom is rarely actually useful

>>510808749
dang you're committed to this power fantasy. good for you I guess. I'm gonna have to go with
>nothing ever happens

>>510808851
>nothing ever happens
History has a lot of events when you are cherrypicking but moment to moment it very much leans to "nothing ever happens".

>>510808843
How do they even clean the house? maid(s)?

>>510804843
Those $1m RVs are meant for rock stars and executives who spend years at a time on tour.
Boomers saw them and decided that it is a great idea to spend their children's generational wealth on

>>510806483
America has some incredible public buildings, especially libraries, many of which were built by rich, magnanimous for prestige. Too many to count.
If you enjoy architecture you could live in New York for a year and still have not seen all the highlights. As usualy, yes, shame to have it spoiled and surrounded by browns.

>>510802106
Good cabs start at $2k ea
>>510802775
Enjoy your leaded airplane gas rain
>>510802898
My wood house is over 200y old

>>510799401 (OP)
>Paint 86,000
you can buy 2 houses with that money here

Americans live in a scam country

>>510802428
So long as they were white, yes. They also had free labor. Can't imagine why non-whites are impoverished and can't catch up!

>>510808950
They either clean them out once a year in a lazy "spring cleaning" ritual, or they just don't clean it. A room that isn't being used doesn't need to be cleaned any more often than an attic

>>510799401 (OP)
I live in a brick house, but the rafters and floor joists are still wood, and I have plaster over lath walls.
So when a big storm happens, or a fire, what exactly is the benefit? My roof will blow off, or burn, and the house will have to be torn down same as if it was all timbers.
I don't know why this thread is over and over, and why the fucking JANNIES don't move it to FUCKING BANT like they do all the time with threads not nearly as insufferable as the
>le brick house
bullshit. You know why USA builds out of wood? Because we have wood you dumb fucks. 3rd world shitholes use bricks and concrete because there isn't any wood. But for real, tell me what natural disaster a brick home can withstand that a timber one can't. Keep in mind that just because the walls are still standing, that doesn't mean they're usable.

>>510809211
name 1 great architecture work built with wood I'll wait

>>510802898
I assume most non-Americans think we get natural disasters everywhere because of the media sensationalism they see. I live in an area where we get
>no flooding
>no tornados
>no hurricanes
>no "wild" fires
>no earthquakes
If your house is built well you don't need much maintenance.
>>510802775
Just for reference, the house in the OP is over 750 square meters. It's a giant house

>>510801268
I assume it's cabinets for the whole house (Master bedroom, mud room, basement, etc), they got ripped off if it was just the kitchen.

>>510799401 (OP)
It is the fucking Nuf-Nuf the Little Pig's cardboard shed. It is not a house. Wake me when Americans start using bricks and concrete for their homes

>>510809299
hilarious because you keep saying wood is cheap meanwhile your houses are expensive as fuck

>>510802898
Wood is actually better for earthquake resistance than brick.

>>510809338
Even if they are for 10 rooms it's still a rip off

>>510809371
yeah now try fire resistance which is an infinitely bigger issue

>>510802775
>>510802775
Nice. My senpai are from Wicklow (farmers on both sides of the family but all from elsewhere, originally). They sold up their farmland a few years ago and bought a nice house with land and plenty of natural terrain round it in a comfy part of the county. Nowhere for boater hotels to spring up. Buying near an airport and local conveniences is nice when you're young, but assuming you're somewhere like Cork or Kerry you need to be ready to move. The overspill/relocation efforts from Dub will reach you soon enough, when the mandate for refugee housing and high density developments hits every single town and city by 2045. Not even Tyrone or the beaches of Donegal will be safe.

>>510809426
you know what is architecture?

>>510808851
This isn't my fucking fantasy. I'm just reading the fucking signs. It's a fucking weather report. You can listen or not.

>>510800815
Hippie bungalow treehouse house.

DUDE TRIANGLES LMAO


mcmansions are revolting

>>510809366
At least in my area, houses are expensive because of covid migrations. In 2020 with the BLM riots and covid, cityfaggots fled the shithole they voted to make a shithole and flooded my housing market. They were legitimately buying entry level houses that were affordable to middle and lower class people for double sometimes triple the real price. Boomers then got greedy and kept doubling and tripling their asking price for years, which they're still doing. Then of course interest rates are still too fucking high and a monthly mortgage payment is way too expensive.
Just look at the pic
>price was reasonable
>2020 happens
>prices go insane
>go to sell now
>ask insane price
It's unsustainable and it has resulted in house buying slowing down greatly. It'll crash soon, you can already see it coming down but it's still too high.

>>510799846
It's literally a stereotype in this country that nothing happens to you when you shoot black people.

>>510799401 (OP)
1.5 mil for oversized garage made of sticks and good will of mexicans in the middle of desert? Do mutts really?

>>510809488
No. Explain it to me, because Mexicans know so much about building.

>>510809687
you live in a ship anon?
you know ships aren't made of wood anymore for the same reason houses shouldn't be made of wood anymore?

>>510809366
just looked up a random house in my area lol

>>510799401 (OP)
Americans will eternally cope about this and deflect by saying how we live like bugs in apartments but paying 1.5 million dollars for this shitbox with Africa-tier build quality will never be ok or normal. I fucking furnished my entire apartment (sans bathroom) for the price of the kitchen CABINETS.

>>510809882
you spent almost $90,000 on fucking furniture?

>>510808526
>$1,200 a month
You can't even let out a comfortable fart in there without starting a fight with someone.

>>510799401 (OP)
>>510799507
why do amerisharts call earth "dirt"? have some respect you fucking niggers

>>510809642
Yes same shit here. First time home buyers get locked out. Only difference is that this country is small and people need to migrate to escape this insanity.

If you're in a bigger city it is likely that they will introduce rulings that will delay new construction projects immensely to keep prices inflated and high.

>>510808182
What is going on in that photo? Did they install a roof on top of a roof?

>>510800110
seething lmao

>>510799401 (OP)
These aren’t even custom houses either they have several model homes that they chose from.

>>510810070
I live in rural suburbs about 1 hour outside the city. I want to move more rural if possible but I like where I am.

>>510809882
There are timber frame homes in america that are older than this country that are in constant human occupancy the entire time. Timber construction isnt the problem nor is it american systems designed around making timber fast.
>But look in europe this crumbling rock hut is from 0AD
Cool, go live in it.

>>510809960
Including kitchen appliances, some doors and more things that I don't know if they can exactly considered "furniture", but yes. It's also a decently sized apartment, 150 m^2 (that's 1600 sqft for you burgers).

>>510810238
hilarious you have to escape the shitholes you created

>>510810263
>150 m^2 (that's 1600 sqft
ok that makes sense then, that's a normal sized house.

>>510810254
wood is flammable anon

>>510810229
Yessir. Cheap version of an addition I guess.

>>510810288
>you
I didn't for fucks sake. I'm not a retarded liberal yuppie who voted for the exact things that made their urban shithole even more of a shithole. I think cities should be walled off from the rest of society and they should be forced to live in the mess they created, not flee to the suburbs and rural areas.

>>510810254
I never mentioned wood in my message. There are timber houses in Scandinavia and Japan that are perfectly fine and have a reasonable build price. The modern ones in America, built by drunk spics, are not fine.

>>510810321
And electricity can shock and kill you but that RARELY happens, so it's not a major concern.

Bruh, that's for sure in California where your paying for the weather and bricks aren't smart in Earth Quake country. Not to mention all the bullshit regulation and state decay that comes from living in a Champagne-commie Shithole.
There are plenty of Adobe, Concrete and rock Houses here if you look. Bricks are more of a Mid-west/East Coast thing. There are so many good afford able houses of all kinds we just don't post then so the 3rdies don't see them.
And there seems to be a new Black Rock black pill op to blackpill and make you think don't even bother.. Nah fuck that, clan up, Tribe up and get your castle even if you have to live like jeets for a while. If I can do it so can you, now I don't even like the house it's too big, I'm calling it on starting a family which is why I got one and am going to just rent it out and get a Rv and Chill in all the cool Rv spots across America while being le' evil land lord; scourge of reddit. Give me that P.O. box bux niggas

>>510810396
I know amerilards who had their houses burn down because squirrels munched their cables LMAOOOOOOOOOO

>>510800851
Extra circumcised.

>>510810321
do you think the entire country is at risk for fires? not only does most of the country have enough rain to prevent the dry conditions for fires, we actually maintain our forests so they're not kindling for fires.

>>510810475
what is electricity anon

>>510810288
We voted for the cities to be like they are in the exact same way you voted for a jewish woman to be your president. That is to say, we didn’t, and forces stronger than >voting were at work

>>510810654
your president is also jewish

>>510802048
Jesus, and I thought our favela engineers were the crazy ones.

>>510810631
>we just shouldn't build homes because they could get damaged
based anarcho-primitivist

>>510799401 (OP)
fake foundation, no support, everything is weak wood...
What will destroy the house first? Gravity, Rain, wind or rats?

>>510810744
pro tip
bricks aren't flammable

>>510802301
It is an aesthetic abomination but I like the possibilities.

>>510810802
termites and common moisture

>>510800740
Its true you have def had beautiful European architecture from best European masons that immigrated there, but lot of it was knocked down to make way for the niggers :((

There are lot of sad architecture stories in USA, for example in NYC go look at the Old Penn Station and it will make you want to cry, it was demolished because that Zeckendorf real estate JEW bought it and wanted to build commercial real estate instead

>>510811068
Of course beautiful old European architecture got destroyed in Europe too by the JEWS, but in a different way

>>510810058
>he doesn't initiating fights and assert dominance using olfactory gaseous bombardment
ngmi

>>510808339
who is they

>>510811111
checked

>>510810229
It's called a "roofover".

>>510800549
LVP needs to die as a trend. Plastic floors in a million dollar home?? At least linoleum is made of natural materials. We to make linoleum great again! We are regressing with home building.

>>510799401 (OP)
kek not broken out into labor and materials

>>510811068
Top image is Penn Station as designed by Whites and built by best White stonemasons.

Bottom image is Penn Station today, after a jewish real estate developer demolished all the work done by Whites to replace it with soulless commercial real estate that could have been placed literally anywhere else, but it had good location so it fetches high rents!

>>510811500
Here's picture inside as envisioned by Whites, vs a jewish real-estate developer

But hey at least they got more shops in there now so you can consooom!

>>510809274
>>510809426
>>510809488
>>510809762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42FIyhCDDB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq_oV4qU3GY
See, poor brain mindset. Destined to live in Flavia while Mexico has some of the most beautiful brick work but in ghetto ass areas.

>>510800851
WHAT WAS HE TRYING TO PROVE?

>>510811863
This also just shows the decay of the Western soul. Pic 1 has symbolic language and references to ancient traditions. It has the idea of Western civilisation.

The second is just an empty hall of consooming while the economy, society, and birth rates rot.

The Jew who blew up the original station was like: "In the future, people will miss the new station too!" (but time proved him wrong)

>>510800851
>desert
that's what i was thinking too, what a dreadful location

>>510802214
>built 100 years ago
holy fuck.....

>>510806483
Newport Rhode Island, Portland Maine, Hudson valley NY, Philadelphia, Savannah. Plenty of places for you to get fucked

>>510812165
>but time proved him wron
Time always proves jews wrong.
When jews pushed the 1965 immigration act through to a 90% White American ethnostate, they claimed that it isn't going to change the demographics of America.

>>510811863
Fucking depressing. Thanks.

>>510799401 (OP)
What a fucking idiot.
>86k on paint
>79k on siding
>87k on cabinets
>90k finished basement lmao
Yet
>47k on roof
All for 2 acres. Priorities are all out of wack for that pile of sticks. He deserves what happens to that roof when it blows off by pulling into the driveway too fast. If I had that kind of money, stone or tile roof, smaller house, more land.

>>510812939
Wonder what it looked like when they demolished it.

>>510802048
This has Ruby Ridge 2.0 vibes ZOG NOT WELCOME FRENS AND DOGGOS ONLY

>>510810362
Nice ID kike. Now I'm hungry