Napoleon actually improved some of the lands he conquered. Hitler just spread death and misery.

>>510822058
shut up jew

>>510822272
Jew this Jew that
get a life

>>510822565
Say nigger, redditor

Napoleon, because he realized that Britain is his enemy and he needs to dominate continental Europe to crippled the British navy and empire

Hitler had fantasies about Britain allying with Germany to fight Jews and Bolsheviks
he should have kept the peace with the USSR and focused all efforts on defeating Britain
he could have secured oil through trade with the USSR instead of conquest

>>510822767
The problem was that the the Soviet Union was gearing up to attack Germany once it bled itself dry in the West. That was always Stalin's strategy. He made sure not to sell too much oil to Germany to prevent them from stockpiling it. The reason the Germans were able to capture 3M+ soldiers in the first weeks of Barbarossa was because the Soviets were all on the border in an attack formation. The sudden German advance caught them off guard.

Napoleon because he actually tried to improve people's lives (besides his own people)

>>510823155
yeah, especially jews

>>510823238
I mean yes

Napoleon is revered in Grance
thats all you need to know

>>510823603
*France

honestly napoleon

the unthinkable:
with combined force - unstoppable

>>510822767
>>510823079
How differently would have the war gone if the BEF didn't make it out of Dunkirk?

>>510821552 (OP)
>>510821552 (OP)
Napoleon because he conquered more against stronger enemies (Austria, Prussia, the Netherlands, Russia, UK combined when they were all superpowers, Hitler only defeated France as the other countries were already very weak and almost didn't help France) and kept the conquest much longer than Hitler. Additionally he did it with less technology than Hitler what makes it even more impressive. He created the modern political systems too, without that most of people today would not be even able to read.

>>510826382
The same, Hitler could not reach the British islands so when USA and the Russians would steamroll him everything would be more or less like it was.

>>510821552 (OP)
Both retards who got BTFO by Russia
Zelensky is following in their footsteps

>>510821552 (OP)
Napoleon and it's not even close

Napoleon easily and it's no contest.
Hitler didn't really have the time to bring lasting changes to society as he was always busy with war/some flavour of extermination (if not jews, the socially inepts, faggots etc...)
Didn't even get to build his mega buildings...

Napoleon was also ruthless but changed the world and still influences it while Hitler was disavowed by everyone after his defeat and his last supporters were absorbed/assimilated into NATO to prepare against the bolsheviks (giving up their ideology). Hitler arguably has no legacy, almost everything was carefully undone.

>>510826526
>He created the modern political systems too, without that most of people today would not be even able to read.

you dumb latnix get dumber by the day

""Johannes Gensfleisch zur Laden zum Gutenberg's invention had an enormous impact on subsequent human history, both on cultural and social matters.[63] His design directly impacted the mass spread of books across Europe, causing an information revolution.[64] As a result, Venzke describes the inauguration of the Renaissance, Reformation and humanist movement as "unthinkable" without Gutenberg's influence.[65] Described as "one of the most recognized names in the world",[63] a team of US journalists voted Gutenberg as the "man of the millennium" in 1999.[3][66][67] Similarly, in 1999 the A&E Network ranked Gutenberg the No. 1 most influential person of the second millennium on their "Biographies of the Millennium" countdown,[68] while Time–Life magazine picked Gutenberg's invention as the most important of the second millennium in 1997.[69] The scholar of paper history, Thomas Francis Carter, drew parallels between Cai Lun, the traditional inventor of paper during the Eastern Han dynasty, and Gutenberg, calling them "spiritual father and son" respectively.[70] In his 1978 book, The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History, Michael H. Hart ranked him 8th, below Cai but above figures such as Christopher Columbus, Albert Einstein and Charles Darwin.""

Influence

"What the world is today, good and bad, it owes to Gutenberg. Everything can be traced to this source, but we are bound to bring him homage, … for the bad that his colossal invention has brought about is overshadowed a thousand times by the good with which mankind has been favored."
American writer Mark Twain (1835–1910)

>>510821552 (OP)
Napoleon didn't leave europe in ruin ready to be taken over by a bunch of subhuman colonists.

>>510827573
He looks like Santa Claus

>>510822058
>Napoleon actually improved some of the lands he conquered
You are fucking stupid

>>510822058
kek, Hitler pretty much walked in countries and made them better by gassing kikes and other paedophiles

jews and niggers firebombed Europe

>>510827771
if thats your concern to historical times paco, then yes he does somehow. now back to cotton picking.

>>510826382
Zero difference. Britain didn’t have a manpower shortage. They lost all their equipment before Dunkirk and that’s what actually hurt them.

>>510827994
I ain't reading all, it is not my topic of interest.
Let's stick to the more interesting points, answer this Germ >>510826382
>>510828029
Thank you

>>510823079
Based and truthpilled
In addition nobody in the soviet state was ever blamed for the fuckup ergo it was approved by stalin himself
My country's army killed millions of soviets btw

>>510822058
>highways and trains

>>510828621
>answer
this is an what if and would have. nobody can really answer that correctly. yes it might more or less changed it! probably it would have changed the outcome imo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutenberg_Bible

also this >>510823079
think so too. the commie ivans wherent good at all. too bad england didnt see it coming and teamed up with us.

>>510823079
>>510828749
Two retards found each other.

>> my country's army killed millions of soviets btw
Do you gypsies ever stop deluding yourselves? Even with civilians—as Romanians certainly didn't excel against the Soviet army anywhere—you won't meet that target.

>>510829699
checked ivan
cant we find a stable base to coexist?

Hitler.
Napoleon was a corsican liberal mongrel.

Only Hitler.

>>510822058
shills would downvote you if they could.

We aligned with France from the start, as they were (in comparison) the most humane, decent European power.
russian and germans were truly subhumans in comparison.
'French influence'? Oh no!
People we're learning French on their own here, as it was... well, lingua Franca and cultural capital of the continent.

Napoleon was based. Shame they ended like this.

>>510830356
The first universalistic liberal republic turned into a sewer?

No wonder polacks like France so much.

>>510830356
>t. White negro

>>510830356
dont shit on other white folks polska
no wonder nobody likes you
>rethink your role honestly

>>510830356
the pimple on the arse of europe has spoken

It takes 5 seconds for subhuman shit shills to activate.


The same flags- germans, one italian, one portugese (shitskin central). The same brown parasites who live here around the clock lmao.

>>510831125
dont disturb him
the pollack brain is at work
the greatest brain the world has ever known

>>510821552 (OP)
>Napoleon lasted longer
>Napoleon actually won wars
>Napoleon left behind lasting reforms

Napoleon did it better by virtue of the fact that most of Europe follows the same core legal system as France while fascism is a dead ideology.

>>510823079
>once it bled itself dry in the West
It wasn't bleeding itself dry though, even North Africa was a very minor expedition in terms of resources and manpower.

>>510827573
3 centuries after Gutenberg only high classes could read, 3 decades after Napoleon literacy rates exploded around Europe. As always krauts thinking they are cleverer when they are in fact autista.

>>510831386
>NatSoc=fascism
>is dead because ADL says it's bad
Stop making Americans look retarded

>>510831241
>the pollack brain is at work

TOPKEK
he will never get it anyway

>>510831125
nobody hurts you, come down. we are on the same side now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>510831386
brilliant logic
do you know what board youre on
go back to /his/

>>510831534
dumb latnix
no need to answer properly
go read a book

>>510831534
Prussia had public schools since 1717
retard

>>510829699
How embarrassing that you take pride in anything your country has done since the 1917 coup

>>510827573
The printing press was invented in China. White people as usual are only good at copying and improving real creativity from the superior Chinese master race.

>>510831648
Objectively Hitler did far worse than Napoleon. Also did not have the same glory vibe as Napoleon did. Napoleon is a legend like Alexander the Great, Hitler is just another socialist dictator that doomed his country due to own megalomania and grandeur delusions.

>>510821552 (OP)
Napoleon actually has a long lasting political and legal legacy, unlike the Austrian failure who only brought misery and destruction wherever his armies invaded.

>>510831813
Printing press was not invented in China, printing itself was. But still I agree, Chinese civilization is superior to European.

>>510831813
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

one chicken teriaki with extra spicy and your sister for takeout!

>>510831816
noone but the french care about Napoleon
and look at them
lol

Any answer beyond Hitler and you are certified subhuman.

>>510821552 (OP)
Napoleon. He was both a military genius and a skilled politician. Hitler had charisma and knew how to motivate people, but that's about it.

>>510831896
>Who was Bi Sheng
>Bi Sheng (972–1051) was a Chinese artisan and engineer during the Song dynasty (960–1279), who invented the world's first movable type.
>Movable type is the system and technology of printing and typography that uses movable components to reproduce the elements of a document (usually individual alphanumeric characters or punctuation marks) usually on the medium of paper.
>The earliest printed paper money with movable metal type to print the identifying code of the money was made in 1161 during the Song dynasty. In 1193, a book in the Song dynasty documented how to use the copper movable type. The oldest extant book printed with movable metal type, Jikji, was printed in Korea in 1377 during the Goryeo dynasty.
The Germanic people are low at creating but they are good at mimicking. It's time we give credit where credit is due. There's a reason everyone today is worried about the Chinese master race taking over. I respectfully bow to my Chinese overlords.

>>510832435
all these posts have to be bait

>>510831745
>Prussia was literate so everywhere else was literate and Napoleon had no impact on it.
German autism, you should have ruled the world and you don't because of your autism. Anglos will always dominate you, even french with their flexibility are much cleverer than you.

>>510832479
LOL ive been in chink-land mainland, hongkong, macao, singapore and so on. all SUPER-cucks!
very obedient ant like robots. no consciousness only bugs.
>good to shag anyway!

>>510831538
How many fascist countries exist anon?

>>510822058
True

>>510832961
what do you even mean then?
Napoleon intoduced schools to Spain?

>>510832961
where your really from?
or your such a spain cuck who get all the woman shagged by Big German Cock!
cant take anything serious what you rant. its nonsense so far!

>>510833069
Aside from israel? None.

>>510831925
Your country uses a French legal code due to Napoleon, only legacy Hitler left behind is Germany losing territory and losing all sense of nationalism.

>>510833112
Napoleon introduced liberal disease and french negrophilia.

>>510833224
>Your country uses a French legal code due to Napoleon
wew
no wonder its shit

>>510833312
Your country is shit because hitler destroyed it.

>>510833376
>hitler destroyed
>germany

Your schnoz is showing kike.

>>510833312
Yep, French have been forcing you to eat their shit for over two centuries straight

>>510833376
lol
are you having fun with your bait thread, kike?

>>510833376
your cunt is shit because you destroyed it.
>gave it to your best ally topkek cuckmutt

>>510833463
How much land did Germany lose in WW2? How many lives did they lose? How many were displaced?

>>510831534
>3 centuries after Gutenberg only high classes could read, 3 decades after Napoleon literacy rates exploded around Europe.

This has nothing to do with the Industrial Revolution.
Nothing.

>>510833571
Germany fought to its dying breath.

You surrendered your country on your arse like a catamite.

There is no enemy of Hitlers surviving 100 years after his death.

France is gone.
USSR gone.
UK gone.

Its only your shithole remaining.
Tik tok on the clock nigger.

>>510833620
It really doesn't. Printing books after the printing press was never that expensive, it's why newpapers were common in America before the American revolution.

>>510833480
>>510833491
Germany wont exist by the end of the century and thats a direct result of hitler. Hes the worst thing that ever happened to germany. A total failure who destroyed german culture and civilization. Germany was far better off before hitler than it ever will be after hitler.

>>510833766
France and UK both exist, but the third reich sure doesn't and neither do the ten million Germans who died giving up Prussia and Silesia to Poland.

>>510833924
>and neither do the ten million Germans who died

Its the sacrifice Adolf was more than ready to make for chance t have Danzig

>>510833766
>It fought hard in a needless war it started and was totally destroyed instead.
Vary impressive

>>510833869
commie pig explanations arent accepted
come up with something real

>>510833837
Of course not nigger. Its not like your school system is literally modelled after a factory line where you only learn to read to be a better employee-consumer.

>>510833924
>france and uk both exist
LOL

Germany died in a blaze of glory.

You liberal-communist slaves died with your daughters and sons getting impaled in the streets by aliens.

With your police kissing nigger feet.
Your death is the humilliating death of the slave races you are.

>>510834049
That is the reality. You worship your people’s greatest oppressor like retarded commies in russia do. The difference is that’s expected of a commie. Its baked into their ideology. For a nationalist you should be disgusted at hitlers stupidity and weakness. His warmongering arrogance and his total failure that cost your people everything. Todays germs will never understand just how great and respected germany was before hitler. Even in the post ww1 defeat it was still considered high culture and a up and coming society. Now its just ruin and by the time you die Germany will be nothing more than the name of a region on a map where turks arabs and slavs live. There can be no greater failure for a nationalist ideology than that.

>>510834471
hmm thats odd
I was just outside and it was full of young germans having fun
maybe you mistake us for your nigger shithole, Pancho?

>>510834215
>reading bad
There was once a time when euros could criticize the american public school system from a position of superiority. That time ended about 30 years ago. Euros are very poorly educated retards now.

>>510834628
That wasn't the point. Before WW II Germany was an actual hub of cultural development and a real contender on the international stage. Now its just another big GDP corporation. WW II broke Germany's soul and the country is an empty husk now. Although a rich one.

>>510834628
No you weren't. Germans have one of if not the lowest birthrate in europe. Nu/pol/ substitutes cope for statistical facts. Its pretty sad.

>>510834471
ok i respect your believes and writings.
they are just not mine!

>>510834647
Only Scandinavia and the Netherlands could criticize the US public school system from a superiority standpoint.

>>510834771
At least they died fighting.

>>510834777
youre mistaking us for your nigger shithole, Pancho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihqg_z-mdBQ

>>510834951
No, they didn't The moment their leadership allowed them to stop fighting they did. Millions of Germans surrendered in 1945 and later on happily converted to liberal democracy and communism respectfully. The moment Hitler stopped whipping them to the front they immediately laid down their arms. Because since 1943 it had been painfully obvious Germany could not win the war and they were dying for nothing.

>>510835120
The plebs adapted to their new overlords.

But their nobility held true and died noble deaths.
Such is the way of the world.

>>510835020
No im not. Germany is literally going extinct and thats a direct result of hitler. Not only do germs no reproduce but ethic germans are one of the oldest populations in europe. Nothing but geriatrics. At least you will piss away your final years of existence funding nato and the EU i guess. This is hitlers legacy. Compared to napoleon its a really poor showing.

>>510835273
let me guess
Hitler did this

>>510835234
>Hitler killed off the beat and most noble of the german people for his own megalomania.
When you put it like that he was clearly one of the worst national leaders that any country could have. Dude should have stay d in the shadows writing political theory. He clearly wasnt up to governing. That was more the expertise of those nobles he shipped off to russia to die in the snow.

>>510835345
Yes hitler did that. Before hitler europe had a long history of repelling Islamic invasion.

Napoleon released the kikes, Hitler fought the kikes. The answer is simple.

>>510835570
hahhaha
youre not even good at this kike

>>510835509
Yes sir. Hitler is our saint. The saint of our racism and anti-universalism.

Our favorite uncle.

>>510835576
exactly
thats why the kikes shill Napoleon on here regularly

>>510821552 (OP)
Everyone froms a coalition for no reason at all vs everyone froms a coalition for no reason at all.

Also how many sides did Italy fight on between those 2 wars, it's like 5 or something.

>>510835763
>>510835576

Haavara agreement? He then protected them in holiday capms away from the horrors of total war that the Germans had to suffer.

>>510835570
I have a theory why every Hitler thread strangely blames him instead of the Jews, and why 50% of /pol/ posts were found to come from Israel

>>510821552 (OP)
Napoleon helped his country and didn't kill himself, Hitler committed suicide and lost the war, and many Germans cannot talk about Hitler as their hero, but France and Napoleon? They regard him as a hero!

>>510835688
>Our favorite uncle.
CHECKED
ur so right paco

France vs Germany

One of them was a loser who lost and the other was a loser who lost.
So the question is, who did it (losing) better?
This is a hard one, it's hard to think about a bigger loser in world history than these two

>>510821552 (OP)
Napoleon was retarded for not knowing what the capital of russia was

>>510821552 (OP)
i think when you include our conquest and centuries of rule of Italy it's the tiebreaker

>>510830870
>Don't shit on other white folks
But isn't that what Prussia, Austria, and Russia did with Poland?
Seems like a double standard...

>>510837598
What?They even have that many niggers in there woman team?

>>510821552 (OP)
Both of them (as well as Czarist Russia) were ultimately defeated by the Fifth Column of Europe: the Eternal Anglo!!

>>510822767
This. But Napoleon was also beaten because he underestimated Britain. (And never should have attacked Russia in 1812)

>>510823079
Then Hitler should've prioritized conquering Britain as quickly as possible, so they wouldn't have to fight on two fronts (which happened anyway after D-Day). His cancellation of Operation Sealion is what lost him the war.

>>510840183
Yep! I just watched it, was a great Sieg for your Frauen!!

>>510821552 (OP)
>Who did it better?
The answer is simple.

>>510837598
>Minge
kek

>>510822058
>death and misery.
He spread Volkswagen and Fanta and high speed road networks