Thread 510823972 - /pol/ [Archived: 221 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: kzSgrPSXUnited States
7/19/2025, 9:01:32 PM No.510823972
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>”we can’t trust government”
>”so let’s make it STRONGER”
What causes this particular brand of stupidity?
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Anonymous ID: QNnCptBUGermany
7/19/2025, 9:02:48 PM No.510824064
Reddit and Talmudvision.
Anonymous ID: pYo63l5NUnited States
7/19/2025, 9:04:52 PM No.510824183
>>510823972 (OP)
But Yarvin isn't capable of growing a beard like that. Also I don't think he'd wear that shirt
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Anonymous ID: bGtxeeiX
7/19/2025, 9:05:03 PM No.510824193
I really don’t get why everyone’s suddenly against capitalism. It’s what made the West great. Free markets, hard work, personal responsibility — all of it flows from Biblical principles. God rewards diligence. Look at the parable of the talents. We built a system where people could rise through effort and faith. That’s why America became so powerful — we combined Christianity with economic freedom. And if you look at who succeeded in that system — like the Jews — it just shows how God’s hand was on them. They understood money, trade, law. That’s not evil — it’s wisdom. It’s part of our Judeo-Christian heritage.

Sure, the system has problems now — greed, corruption, globalism — but that’s not capitalism’s fault. It’s because we turned away from God. If we put Christ back at the center, we can fix it. Wall Street, Hollywood, even tech — a lot of powerful people are Jewish, yes, but they’ve done a lot of good too. They helped build the system we all benefit from. We shouldn’t attack them — we should be grateful. They gave us the moral compass and the markets. If we just repent and return to faith, we can restore the West. All this bitterness and blame is just Satan dividing us. We need to love harder, forgive more, and trust in God's plan — not tear everything down.
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Anonymous ID: CUcsYv1sCanada
7/19/2025, 9:06:33 PM No.510824285
American liberal capitalism
Anonymous ID: kzSgrPSXUnited States
7/19/2025, 9:15:51 PM No.510824892
>>510824193
Beep beep
Anonymous ID: H9z3v17Q
7/19/2025, 9:22:01 PM No.510825330
>>510823972 (OP)
they read a few pages of marx and come to genuinely believe that a "dictatorship of the proletariat" will birth a utopia totally devoid of hierarchy
despite this never occurring, and despite having no sound reason to believe it would ever occur, the idea sticks with them because it's yet another formulation of tabula rasa philosophy extolling the innate virtue of man and offloading the immutability of being to a matter of circumstance
the mental equivalent of a security blanket for a child
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Anonymous ID: H9z3v17Q
7/19/2025, 9:24:05 PM No.510825458
>>510825330
I should add, it's helpful to think of it as a form of christianity for materialists
Anonymous ID: MuTmhKMlUnited States
7/19/2025, 9:25:14 PM No.510825543
>>510824183
lmao monarchists btfo
Anonymous ID: 6CEyFpZvUnited States
7/19/2025, 9:29:12 PM No.510825796
>>510823972 (OP)
I'm not a socialist by any stretch, but playing Devil's Advocate:
What socialists don't trust is government that is directly controlled by the wealthy class.
Government controlled by the wealthy class and operated in its interests is capitalist and bad.
Government owned by the working class and operated in its interests is socialism and good.

Now, again, I'm not a socialist. I'm not convinced that a government operated in by the working classes *is* possible because it always degenerates into dictatorship. Nor do I think it's desirable, as societies are naturally hierarchical and the hierarchies produced by capitalism allow for a level freedom for the rest of us unparalleled by any other system ever tried by man. But I think it's important to understand the thing you're critiquing so you can criticize it properly instead of knocking down a straw man.
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Anonymous ID: VGgk1bKOUnited States
7/19/2025, 9:48:52 PM No.510827108
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>>510824193
Capitalism and communism are two sides of the same shekel. Neither has any loyalty to its people.

One's loyalty is solely to capital gain--even if it means selling out its own people. Some examples:
1) Last 30-40 years of capitalists outsourcing industries and IP for cheap labor and tax loopholes.
2) McDonalds rakes in quarterly profits; instead of investing and sharing their increased earnings with their labor, their modus operandi is to expand with more franchise locations.
3) If food corporations could, they would sell people processed shit covered in food coloring and flavor additives, as long as its profitable.

Capitalism has no loyalty, only to its profits, even at the expense of its people. It's why mass immigration is seen as a good thing while they perpetuate the liberal "we're all human, diversity is our strength!" shit. Capitalism ultimately sees people as meaningless economic units from which wealth or capital is to be extracted from.

I won't go much into communism because we've beat that horse to death here, but communism's only loyalty is to its state authority. Its people don't matter, only the state and its ideology (which takes on a religious-like ethos). People are reduced to, again, just like in capitalism, meaningless labor units. If they're no longer beneficial to the state, then they're replaced, as Lenin and others Jewish commies demonstrated in the early 1900s.

I'm tired of the retarded capitalism vs communism purgatory tug 'o war. I want NATIONALISM. I want a government that actually VALUES and protects its people's future. I want LOYALTY. I want a NATON. I want to be able to work a job and feel my taxes go towards a future for my PEOPLE and they're wellbeing. We're told that we have a successful society because we have lots of material possessions. What greater measure of success of a society than for its people to have a future? By that metric, our society is an epic failure. But hey, at least we have... stuff.
Anonymous ID: q0SZF2wDUnited States
7/19/2025, 9:51:23 PM No.510827281
>>510823972 (OP)
>we have a bad government controlled by bad people
>let's replace it with a good government controlled by good people

>"hehehe, hypocritical much?"
Anonymous ID: VGgk1bKOUnited States
7/19/2025, 9:58:11 PM No.510827761
>>510825330
The worst thing about commies and Marxists is that they genuinely believe they can change human nature. even by force if they must (it's why they ultimately slide into authoritarianism despite all their posturing as being idealistic liberators).
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Anonymous ID: VGgk1bKOUnited States
7/19/2025, 10:03:38 PM No.510828528
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>>510825330
>>510827761
Forgot pic.
Anonymous ID: 6CEyFpZvUnited States
7/19/2025, 10:07:56 PM No.510828788
>>510827761
OP's criticism was off-base for reasons I laid out here (>>510825796), but this is correct.
Human beings are inherently hierarchical. We are also inherently selfish.
"Capitalism" better taps into our natural tendencies to benefit society. Socialism tries to slam a square peg into a round hole. There is room for safety nets as well as for labor to advocate for itself within the existing system but an actual "worker controlled" system is impossible.
It will always be co-opted by self-interested individuals who will run the government to their benefits over those of the people they are supposed to serve. That is why it has failed every time it's been tried. The most successful "socialist" country so far is China, which relies heavily on private ownership and private markets.
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Anonymous ID: 6CEyFpZvUnited States
7/19/2025, 10:10:17 PM No.510828954
>>510827761
(I realize you're not capitalist, by the way, nor am I. But my point was that smart systems use what we understand as capitalism and use it in favor of the Nation itself, same as they might use state-run industries where those are necessary.
But the key is national necessity, not economic ideology.)
Anonymous ID: MuTmhKMlUnited States
7/19/2025, 10:14:26 PM No.510829220
>>510828788
Humans thrived for thousands of years under feudalist and monarchist systems. These led to the development of humanity's most beautiful and unique cultures. Humans lived in balance with nature and were closer to God
200 years of unbridled capitalism has washed that away and turned the entire planet into a globalized homogenous sludge, every culture from the old world has been completely destroyed so that some jews can make a profit.
"Taps into our tendencies to benefit society" my ass. Capitalism is an unnatural aberration, its infinite growth model is unsustainable and it will eventually collapse and humans will go back to something that better resembles the systems that worked for thousands of years
Anonymous ID: Iu4WVXS0United States
7/19/2025, 10:17:13 PM No.510829419
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>Trumpfags were the commies all along
Anonymous ID: voPIXBfi
7/19/2025, 10:17:16 PM No.510829430
>>510823972 (OP)
Rampant psychopathy. All leftists have criminal inclinations that can be satisfied in a cruel socialist regime.
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Anonymous ID: Iu4WVXS0United States
7/19/2025, 10:18:04 PM No.510829484
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>>510829430
Speaking of leftists!