Article
> https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-idiocy-of-the-epstein-mythology/
Interview on @Breakingpoints
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsja2QcEHRI

> If he's trafficking minors, if he's participating in a trafficking conspiracy to supply minors to others, how is it that over the course of a decade of incredibly intensive and lucrative litigation not a single credible allegation of a third party individual having minors trafficked [to them] has been established?
> How come, after every media outlet, at least post 2018, became hugely invested in this story---so you have Netflix documentaries, HBO documentaries, newspaper and magazine articles, podcasts out the wazoo---how come none of them have ever established any third party individual to whom a minor was trafficked?
> Wouldn't you concede that there's a perverse incentive an incentive for purported self-identified victims? Because by the terms of these settlements, all the purported victims have to do is self-identify as a victim, they can do so confidentially, meaning they don't have to be cross-examined, they don't have to have their claims adversarially scrutinized, and there's no down-side reputational risk in the event they're not adjudicated bona fide victims.

Here:

Epstein is connected to Israel, this is why Trump is covering it up. He doesn't want to risk the political fallout for Israel when people realize all of Epstein's clients were blackmailed and used as Israeli assets (including Trump himself).

"The most concrete link is his relationship with former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak. Epstein and Barak met numerous times between 2013 and 2017, with Barak visiting Epstein’s properties in Florida and New York approximately 30 times, including a 2014 private flight in Florida. Barak received $2.3 million from an Epstein-associated foundation between 2004 and 2006, and Epstein invested $1 million in a limited partnership established by Barak in 2015.

Another connection stems from Epstein’s ties to Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, Robert Maxwell, was a British media mogul alleged to have had links to the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad. Some sources, including former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe, have claimed Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell ran a “honey-trap” operation for Mossad to blackmail influential figures. A lawsuit by a woman identified as Jane Doe 200 alleged Epstein boasted of being a Mossad agent, but this remains unconfirmed.

Epstein was also associated with the Wexner Foundation, which supports Jewish leadership and has ties to Israel. His financial backer, Leslie Wexner, was a member of the “Mega Group,” a collection of Jewish philanthropists, which some, like former NSA counterspy John Schindler, have speculated was linked to Israeli intelligence operations, though no hard evidence supports this. Epstein reportedly invested in an Israeli startup, Reporty Homeland Security (later rebranded as Carbyne), connected to Israel’s defense industry, further fueling speculation."

Epstein is a jew who raped white girls and got other guys to rape white girls so he could blackmail them and use them as Israeli assets.

>>510841638 (OP)
>bought off shitbag gets paid by jews to lie for jews
fixed*

Trumpniggers poisoned the well on Epstein to large degree, but this is absurd.

>>510841724
Someone gets it, the pedophile accusations are allowing Israel to get off the hook

>>510841638 (OP)
Ahh yes the famous compactmag

>>510841724
this.
>>510841846
>the pedophile accusations are allowing Israel to get off the hook
huh? pedo rings is what jews use to blackmail and keep power

>>510841724
>>510841846
If you watch the interview, Saagar's defense of his position consists almost entirely of linking Epstein to Israel. So your insight here is a distraction.
To his discredit, Tracey soft pedals the Israeli connection. When asked how Esptein knows all these people, he simply states Epstein has a 'jet set lifestyle'. He admits that he may have come into contact with Israeli intelligence, but doesn't seem willing to entertain the idea that Epstein himself was intelligence.

However, the purpose of Tracey's argument is to point out how the central claims of the Epstein mythology, that there is a child trafficking ring, has no empirical basis. Whether you agree with him or not, the article and the interview are both worth a look.

>>510841638 (OP)
>Interview on @Breakingpoints

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>>510842523
Sorry, my link was bad. Here is the @Breakingpoints interview:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsJa2QcEHRI

I don't even understand this whining, is he saying there are no victims?
>>510841744
seems like that's all this is.

>>510842990
I think his argument is that if there was any credible evidence that, say, Bill Gates, had children trafficked to him, the case would have gone to court.
He also points out that the central figure in this story, Virginia Giuffre, was a "fabulist" which means someone prone to making up stories. His evidence for that is that she had to retract her accusations against Alan Dershowitz after she took him to court.
He also claims that the settlements had perverse incentives, allowing anyone to declare themselves a victim, and incentivizing accusers to inflate their claims to get the biggest payout. He also points out that one of the accusers in the Maxwell case was told she would get a bigger payout if she cooperated with the prosecution.
Tracey's point is that there has been no evidence tested in court, that substantiates the claim that Epstein was running a child trafficking network.
He points out that Maxwell was convicted of a conspiracy that involved only her and Epstein.

>>510841744
Checked and Tracey used to work with Glenn Greenwald, so I'm not sure how Israel adjacent he is.

>>510842523
It's not about Israel or child trafficking (which came along later in Epstein's 1990s career). He was a facilitator and asset for global finance and moving of large HNW quantities of money on behalf of intelligence agencies, plural.
RE: Saagar, here is a much longer one where he clearly and voluminously explains that what Epstein did after the 1970s was far beyond merely or solely 'for Israel':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO6wtQdhqSg

>https://rumble.com/v6wdess
https://rumble.com/v6wdess

Anyone, such as Tracey, boiling down, focusing or zeroing-in on "muh child rape" or "muh oligarchs ruled by sex blackmail" is a midwit and following social media TikTok influencers

(It's also a reason why the title chosen for Whitney Webb's two-volume 'One Nation Under Blackmail' books may be a misnomer, as 'blackmail' is one mere aspect of what Epstein and the agencies for whom he's working are actually doing)

>>510841724
Fpbp

>>510843585
> Saagar does it better
The problem I have with Saagar is that he casually uses terms like "Lolita Express" for the name of Epstein's plane or the flights, which is a yellow journalism coinage intended to bias the material. Saagar simply isn't a good journalist, which is why I prefer to look to Tracey for another perspective. Saagar got very heated in the interview, even as he conceded much of what Tracey had to say. His points linking Epstein was strong, and Tracey didn't respond well. But the rest of the interview was dominated by Tracey, I felt. Saagar is an Epstein expert mainly in his own mind, and appears credible only when nobody pushes back on him.

> Anyone, such as Tracey, boiling down, focusing or zeroing-in on "muh child rape" or "muh oligarchs ruled by sex blackmail" is a midwit and following social media TikTok influencers
I guess you didn't read the article or watch the interview, or have any idea who Michael Tracey is.

>>510841638 (OP)
https://archive.is/slJ6m
Always archive, OP.
And notice that Tracey, who is normally gold, is being dishonest here. Technically the girls weren't legal minors.
https://archive.is/slJ6m

>>510843969
There had to be much worse things that the public didn’t know about.

>>510841744
>>510843568
Tracey is Jewish and just as much of an Israel skeptic as Glenn Greenwald (Tracey substitute-hosts Glenn's 'System Update' show when GG is absent); he did a series of good interviews at Republican campaign events during 2024, with many GOP Zionist / holy roller congresscritters challenging their stances and philosophies on Israel policy.

The problem with Michael Tracey is, that he's got a *contrarian* streak with respect to Trump, maga and trumpism: He sees it as his journalistic duty to go opposite from whatever the maga horde is doing and lampoon or critique it (in this instance, the inattentive observer from afar that thinks/perceives "huh, I seem 2 remember that back in the Obama/Clinton days all the drumphers used to talk about Epstein all the time," when there's a lot more to the JE story than an island or child diddling: see post above). With this story he's also taking a jab at Bongino/Patel/Bondi, who were supposed to "do something" about all this stuff but have apparently so far been bought off by the deep state mossad contingent that wants to protect its assets to the greatest degree possible.

>>510843908
(You) are the one with *zero* idea of what you post.
Read my other post itt

>>510843969
>Tracey, who is normally gold, is being dishonest here
See my post upthread.
Tracey has glommed onto this topic as yet another opportune moment to give a bronx cheer to 'muh maga'

>>510843673
I guess Tracey's argument would be that
> a) a list of prominent Jewish names doesn't prove the existence of a child sex trafficking ring
> b) a list of prominent Jewish names doesn't prove Epstein is an intelligence asset

Personally, I believe Epstein was an intelligence asset. But Tracey's arguments questioning the child sex trafficking are worth considering. What it comes down to is that there is much more smoke than fire, and that certain beliefs that have widespread credibility are not well grounded in fact, or are grounded in hearsay, or have not been tested in court.
To give one example, Tracey points out that the Acosta quote we've all heard, saying that he had to give Epstein a sweet heart deal because "Epstein is intelligence" was actually hearsay from a journalist, and that Acosta denied that on the record. It's entirely possible that Acosta did say what was attributed to him, and later lied about it on the record. That's Saagar's point of view. Tracey's argument is that journalism and the law depend upon higher standards of evidence than rumor and speculation.

>Saagar is an Epstein expert
He doesn't and never claimed to be.
Based on the 2-hour exposition I posted upthread (in addition to the 2-hour interview he did with Tucker last week) he's done a lot of research into Epstein, most of which to begin with had *already been done* back in the 1980s and 1990s by various journalists that researched and interviewed him personally. There's a paucity of facts about him after 2000, until his 2006 indictment after which the only information came from court depositions.

wait Dershowitz dindu nuffin?

One thing that works in Tracy's favor is that Virginia Roberts was legitimately half-retarded, which was clear if you read her tweets or court documents. Those kinds of "simple" White girls are the bread and butter of sex-traffickers, and accounted for a lot of what we saw with Andrew Tate's victims.

I saw Jeffery Epstein at a grocery store in Los Angeles a decade ago. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>>510844069
Tracey's anti-Trump contrarianism is only a problem if
> a) he's wrong
> b) you support Trump
But your analysis fails because his contrarianism in this case is working in Trump's favor by giving him cover. Tracey is agreeing with Trump that there may be much more smoke than fire in the Epstein file.
So his supposed contrarianism here isn't anti-Trump, but effectively pro-Trump, insofar as it provides cover.

> Tracey is Jewish
I couldn't find his early life, but here's Tracey being accused of Holocaust denial:
> https://fallout.substack.com/p/the-predictable-downfall-of-michael
So if he's a Jew, he's a weird one.

Kikes are shook and throwing anything at the wall to get us to disbelieve the obvious. It’s not going to work, demons. You’re going down this time.

>>510844155
Checked and you post that in every thread. Nobody is obligated to read your copypasta every time you post it. And posting it in a thread isn't a constructive contribution to a topic. It's just you banging a drum.
It is more offensive for you to fail to read the article than for me to refuse to read your pasta posted 100 times a day.

>>510841846
>the pedophile accusations are
To distract attention from the global financial/banking and intelligence agencies operations that Epstein has conducted since leaving Bear Stearns.
>>510832228


The (post-1980s) Island, rape ranch, and 'pedophile ring' are mere footnotes to Epstein's actual career

>>510844469
> Saagar not an expert
Saagar is constantly talking about Epstein. He brings it up all the time. He goes on podcasts talking about it. He's a self-appointed Epstein expert.
And if he isn't, why is he talking about it at length, at every opportunity, in his position as a wanna be journalist? He's not like Crystal Ball, who let's her opinion on the matter be known. Saagar rants about it, and the recent Epstein controversy has showcased his obsession with it.
The reason Tracey was on BreakingPoints was to butt heads with Saagar.

>>510841638 (OP)
He's obviously being paid by the same kikes that prop up that freak Hanania

>>510845063
>Germany flag 8 pbtid
>copypasta
??

what in the *FUCK* are you talking about.
I've never posted anything itt before this moment

>>510844992
If it's obvious, there must be good evidence.
Why not post the best evidence you have right here. As a resident expert, you must have the facts at your finger tips.

has anyone ever watched one of Michael's live streams?
> Has there, within the boundless continuum of temporal evolution, ever been a singular corporeal being, through the agency of their own deliberate and autonomous volitional capacity, partaken in the sensory process of observing or engaging with the synchronous, real-time distribution of multimedia material, meticulously curated and executed by the singular entity who is conventionally acknowledged under the moniker of Michael?

>>510845296
ITT means in this thread. I'm accusing you of posting that pasta in every Epstein thread, for days.

>>510845213
>muh Epstein
What the fuck are (You) even saying?
have you not observed the news cycle for July 2025?

>muh Breaking Points
I dgaf about Saagar or Tracey. But in the case of the topic of Epstein, Saagar is far more researched and informed on it than Tracey (who solely wants to exploit it for political 'journalism' grifting exemplified by OP article. The Epstein story of the year was already made a joke with the Feb 2025 DoJ release of 'muh binders', everyone with a brain cell knows that *isn't* the Epstein Story)

>>510845369
I've seen enough of him on GG's System Update to know that yes, he enjoys the smell of his of his own farts a bit too much. Even Glenn Greenwald makes fun of and disparages him

>>510845404
>11 pbtid Germany flag sub-moron
>muh pasta Hurr Durr
this is the first Epstein topic I've posted in.

>>510845477
Checked.
> I dgaf abotu Saagar
If you don't care about Saagar, why are you claiming he's not an expert.
> Saagar isn't an Epstein expert and never claimed to be.
Apparently you're not a Saagar expert, so I don't know why you bothered running interference for him. I guess it's all beneath you. Why are you in this thread?
> But in the case of the topic of Epstein, Saagar is far more researched and informed on it than Tracey (who solely wants to exploit it for political 'journalism' grifting exemplified by OP article.
Saagar exploits it on the daily. BreakingPoints has been full of Epstein "coverage" mainly consisting of Saagar providing his surface level reading of 4chan.

If you don't give a fuck about Saagar, why are you lifting his balls? Go watch the Interview, drop a like, subscribe and hit the notification bell, faggot.

>>510841785
Every Pedo including presidents current or past should be castrated.
Just when you think the left looks down on you Trump pisses in your face and calls you weak when you mention it.

>Anonymous (ID: dFu7tYXK) OP 1 pbtid = France flag
>Anonymous (ID: PpuYsJzj) 11 pbtid "my link was bad" [referring to OP] = Germany flag
>Anonymous (ID: tC6Qj0f4) 1 pbtid = U.K. flag
All the same flag
we can smell you through the screen.

>>510845583
> pasta
Sorry I confused you with this guy
>> 510841724
When you said
> read my other post itt,
I assumed it was that one since I had already read and responded to all your posts.

>>510846057
> muh VPNfag
> muh glowing
The reason I have no patience for you is this kind of argumentation. You're someone incapable of reading an article or making a coherent point, and you drift from this to that
> Saagar is no expert
> I don't care about Saagar
> Saagar is much more of an expert than Tracey
You're kind of a complete idiot, which lends support to Tracey's position on Epstein.