Did they really go from Metallica and GNR to Nirvana basically overnight on MTV?

>>510902670 (OP)
>shitty distorted guitar starts playing
>incoherent mumbling
>feedback screech
>NO I DONT HAVE A GUN
>IM SO UGLY
>I AM STUPID
>YEAHH
YYEAHHHHH
YEAHHHHHH
>melancholic strumming
>guitar smashes against amp
>chaotic mess of feedback
>song ends

Gen X thinks this heroin junkie faggot was a genius

grunge isnt a real genre
nirvana was a noise pop band
gnr was gay shit anyway

>>510902670 (OP)
No, Smells Like Teen Spirit and Enter Sandman came out within months of each other in 1991 and Metallica had other big MTV hits that followed. GNR November Rain came out 1992 and was played all day every day. Media likes to paint black or white narratives when it's usually shades of grey in reality.

>>510903015
>Enter Sandman came out within months of each other in 1991 and Metallica had other big MTV hits that followed. GNR November Rain
How can you even compare those totally boomer outdated songs to Nrivana's hits?
Both Enter Sandman and November Rain and pure cringe and terrible songs. They are the cumulation of boomers shitty hair rock and roll which makes their unsettling by more down to earth and independent artists like Nirvana inevitable.

I genuinely hate November Rain. Its so terrible. Its like the Scorpion's song. Unbearable unless its from your nostalgic geriatric "youth" I assume.

>>510903015
It was the faggot assed hair metal bands that Nirvana destroyed.

>>510903632
Yes that happened overnight. GNR kept on for a few years and RHCP became Big alsi.

>>510903632
all metal is gay, anon. except sabbath.

>>510903015
Accurate. Pearl Jam and Megadeth were both on MTV circa 1991-1993. You'd also see bands like Steelheart on Headbanger's Ball and Dinosaur Jr on Alternative Nation. It wasn't until about 1994 that MTV went full grunge and rap.

>>510902670 (OP)
Remember all those hair metal bands that were super effiminate, Nirvana was the same shit but no make up, it was still just as fagggy.

>>510903568
OP's question was about MTV airplay and didn't mention anyone's opinion of the music itself.

>>510903632
Another media exaggeration. Most of those bands were already going down from peak popularity but Motley Crue has still made millions of dollars and played stadiums since they were "destroyed". Bon Jovi kept having platinum albums and had the top tour in the world not too long ago. Cobain, Staley, and Cornell are literally dead. Only Pearl Jam remains and they're not making any more money than Bon Jovi or Def Leppard.

>>510903568
Idk why people suck GNR's dick so much. They were just another hair metal band. And their music sucks and that dildo singer always sounded awful. Besides that, no matter your feelings for Nirvana the tidal shift in music that brought actual good interesting indie music to the forefront they brought was infinitely better than the shitty hair metal and dorky hip hop music that the early 90s had.

>>510903794
>hair metal
>gnr rhcp
shut the fuck up

>>510903568
all classic rock is boomer shit.
that includes nirvana.

>>510904702
Not understanding the awesomeness is complete and total faggotry
https://youtu.be/FMbl1ntpIXQ

>>510902670 (OP)
Did they really go from Emperor and Burzum to Metallica and GNR to Nirvana basically overnight on MTV?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz5rHYpvIo0

>>510905339
are you 12?

>>510902957
fpbp. Band was trash and I’m glad that faggot killed himself.

>>510905142
Oh wow, a shittier faggier early version of Stone Temple Pilots. That song fucking sucked and Axel looks like the preeniest faggot ever performing. At least David Lee Roth knew he was a fucking clown, this retard actually took himself seriously.

>>510905478
You are a gay

>>510904463
Smashing Pumpkins (kinda) is still around. Dinosaur Jr is still touring successfully. Oasis is on tour. Weezer's still out there and sound pretty much exactly like they did back in the day. I just won't go to see them now bc they're all old af and I'm also old af and saw a lot of them back in their prime anyway. But 90s nostalgia is a powerful force to a large generation.

>>510905559
Indeed. At least I don't think some whiny high-pitched faggot copy of Robert Plant mixed with Motley Crue instrumentation is the epitome of music as you do. So I guess you out-gay me by liking a man with a perm singing falsetto over slop chop messy loud shit music.

>>510902976
Kekkkkkkk never seen that one

>>510905339
i cant believe i used to like this garbage

>>510902670 (OP)
No, Viacom went from GNR to rap. Then alternative rock caught on with white. Then Viacom immediately went to boy bands like Nsync and Backstreet Boys run by an Israeli pedo Lou Perlman after Cobain was murdered by his Israeli glowie wife. Then they pushed "electronica," more "southern" gangsta rap and wiggers

>>510902670 (OP)
>Metallica
>GNR
They both had albums come out in 1991 and they were massive. Black album was Metallica's mainstream breakthrough, and theGnR double album was highly anticipated. I saw all three live and Metallica was the best hands down.

>>510902670 (OP)
Who gives a fuck about tv music we have SoundCloud now. This great new song just have 20 views
https://youtu.be/UKp2CrfmVfw

And check out this nigger

https://youtu.be/NUNYcwDkBPc

>>510906336
Is he of relation to Ron?

>>510902670 (OP)
People forget that Janet Jackson and Boyz ll Men were far more popular on MTV than any of those bands around the same time.

>>510906336
Viacom also owned MTV and VH1, those channels were literally just propaganda for their own products. I'm sure any non-Viacom related artists had to compensate in the backend for their work to be featured. I swear some artists are just owned by Viacom outright as human beings. For example: RHCP, Gwen Stefani, and Pink. These fuckers have been featured for literal DECADES on MTV and VH1. Motherfuckers still featured in every single VMA and even MTV Movie Awards twenty years after their last hit. I think RHCP have "won" at least a few VMAs every single time they've been "nominated" because they are so deeply entrenched in the machine.

https://voca.ro/1d5mC80XUvoU

>>510902670 (OP)
>>510903568
>>510904447
What you guys are all forgetting is that hair metal got killed by grunge in ‘92, grunge itself was basically dead by ‘96, and U2 inherited the earth.

>>510904447

>>510905757
True but I was only thinking of the Seattle "grunge" bands. Green Day would be another big band.

>>510902670 (OP)
Wrong question. You should be asking "Did they go from Nirvana / Soundgarden / Alice In Chains to Puff Daddy / Britanny Spears overnight?" And the answer is yes. That was the moment I noticed shit was going down and people were turning into retards. That was the start of the rot we face today.

>>510906982
Grunge didn't dye got replaced by other more whiny bullcrap but it will die eventually mellow out
https://youtu.be/Gc71AmT_b2k

>>510904447

>>510907741
Diie *

>>510902670 (OP)
No, MTV went from Metallica to monkey noises. Nirvana just sort of happened and no one really understands why.

>>510902670 (OP)
>>510902957
Imagine the insufferable woke tard he would have turned into in current year if he didn't khs. He would be Twitter saying gets genocide if you are against 4 year old kids transing.

>>510907686
Rock might have survived a little bit longer if Limp Bizkit never took off.

>>510902670 (OP)
Metallica going mainstream with Enter Sandman was just as big a surprise as Smells Like Teen Spirit.

>>510907475
Yeah exactly. The ones left standing still have a draw. Again, it's not a prime time to see any of them since they're all like 60 now but it's something to see. I get to say I've seen Dylan (he was fucking terrible) and David Bowie (8th to last concert; he was excellent). So you didn't see Greenday or whatever back in the 90s? Well, here's them 30 years later sounding not as good and kinda sadly old. But at least it's something.

>>510902670 (OP)
No you still had Slaughter, ugly kid joe, winger and warrant getting awards on mtv alongside metallica and gnr and nirvana. Vince neil from motley crue even had an overplayed hit single in 1992/93. Once korn and nu metal came out is what killed it all

>>510904447
Remember OLD Pantera?

>>510907686
Post-grunge held on until the late 90s and was still popular (Radiohead being a prime example, as there was an interstellar leap between The Bends and OK Computer), but also since it was a time of wealth and opulence in the US (late 90s), music and its accompanying aesthetics got shinier and more stylish. 'Shiny' is how I remember the late 90s (96-01). Glossy. Shit like Smash Mouth and Garbage and even the brief swing revival reveals a culture not just in full upswing but also in celebration of itself. Artistic but commercial. Pleasing but with some artistry. Shit like Bush, you know? Maybe you had to be there. Raygun magazine captured what I feel like this time period felt and looked like at the time. Arguably America at a dizzying height of commercialism fueled with artistry celebrating at the end of the American Century.

>>510908286
Not really. It was because of the unexpected massive success of Nirvana that turned the musical tide in the US. If you've ever listened to Bleach, you'd hear the metal influence in Nirvana more before Kurt adopted the soft/loud dynamic from Pixies.

>>510908770
Power Metal is their best album. I don't care what anyone says.

>>510908770
Hair bands lol

>>510902670 (OP)
Wasn’t a Jew manufactured musician

>>510902670 (OP)
>Having a cheeky tug to Rebecca de Ruvo after watching the Black Hole Sun vid.

The good old days!

>>510902670 (OP)
Yes. And then from that shit to boy bands 24/7 and then to no music videos at all and just stuff like the real world etc
all in the space of about five years

After come as you are and Jesus christ pose and losing my religion you had to sit through this

>>510907686
>Wrong question. You should be asking "Did they go from Nirvana / Soundgarden / Alice In Chains to Puff Daddy / Britanny Spears overnight?" And the answer is yes. That was the moment I noticed shit was going down and people were turning into retards. That was the start of the rot we face today.
Yeah, I remember being very disappointed by late 90s culture. The "authentic" feel of the early 90s was all gone and music acts were mostly based on hype. Everything felt more shallow.
Don't even get me started on the movie "American Beauty," which was hyped up as the greatest thing ever, when it's really just some spoiled ass people acting like idiots because life is too easy for them.
The late 90s, with the tech boom, is when our culture turned irredeemably shallow and narcissistic. It's never improved or gone back to normal since then.

>>510902670 (OP)
Time changes anon

>>510909603
Poor guy, imagine the whole world finding out you like Coldplay.

>>510909148
REAL Phil stopped using his full vocal capabilities after Power and Cowboys

>>510908808
>since it was a time of wealth and opulence in the US (late 90s), music and its accompanying aesthetics got shinier and more stylish. 'Shiny' is how I remember the late 90s (96-01). Glossy. Shit like Smash Mouth and Garbage and even the brief swing revival reveals a culture not just in full upswing but also in celebration of itself. Artistic but commercial. Pleasing but with some artistry. Shit like Bush, you know? Maybe you had to be there. Raygun magazine captured what I feel like this time period felt and looked like at the time. Arguably America at a dizzying height of commercialism fueled with artistry celebrating at the end of the American Century.
Totally agree, except I see the late 90s commercialism and glorification of wealth as the beginning of the end of our culture. I even felt this way at the time, that it was a huge comedown from the past.
Basically, late 90s culture is the cultural expression of the early 90s "End of History" ethos that swept through politics with the fall of the Soviet Union. American smugness just reached culture, especially music and movies, by the late 90s. And it's never been overturned.
Pretentious, glossy crap is still what's hot (think Taylor Swift), even though this trend is well past its prime and is like a zombie that is dead but still moving like a living person.
We all know that age is over but we are pretending the world as we knew it is still standing. This may continue until America, or more likely the entire West, falls apart. It's just the mentality of a dying, decadent civilization that won't allow itself to be reformed into something new and fit for the new world.

>>510902670 (OP)
There was a lot of stuff going on then it most of the charts were dominated by black r and b guys in the 90s, not kidding

>>510902670 (OP)
Metallica was never played on regular rotation on MTV until AFTER Nirvana blew up. They would’ve been sequestered to occasional airings on the ‘Headbangers Ball’ show late at night. Metallica released their toned down for mainstream ‘Black’ album the same year as Nevermind coincidentally.

>>510902957

>>510902670 (OP)
And so it begins.

>>510907264
idk wearing women’s clothes is a rite of passage for young men, it depends on how you behave when you do it and whether or not you keep doing it but normal boys do it because it’s ridiculous and makes fun of women

>>510909568
Agreed. As much as people are nostalgic for late 90s/early 00s culture now, I just don't feel it. I also look back on that era as the beginning of the decline. Sure, things were a lot simpler and more laid back in that era compared to today but a lot of the creativity from the early 90s were gone.

>>510909603
>Time changes anon
I think a major problem is the times aren't changing anymore, and it's more like they're refusing to change. This is due to everyone knowing, at least viscerally, that our glory days are behind us and people wanting to pretend we're still in them. So we get a facsimile of those halcyon days that appears stale and awkward, but people play along and pretend our civilization is still in its prime.
Also, allowing us to change to recognize current shitty reality might knock down the whole edifice on which our lives our built: our funny money dollar system, the do nothing NATO alliance, and so on. So maybe it's best that we just keep the decadence of the dying empire going, like the Ottomans did in the late 1800s.

>>510910289
But I'm just a schizo, right?

>>510902670 (OP)
It's bridged by years of shitskins.

>>510910289

>>510910136
true

>be me
>looking early 90s chart playlist, expecting loads of grunge bands, Gn'R, some other rock bands I'd completely forgotten about hopefully
>all of them a filled with dogshit like BoyzIIMen; Color Me Bad, and Mariah fucking Carey.

>>510902670 (OP)
Metallica stopped being good after Master of Puppets (which is overrated anyway). After that they became a normalfag dad "metal" band. They became more heavy rock than metal.

And on something more related to the thread - rock radio is dead. 90% of rock radio is nirvana and foo fighters. I'm so fucking tired of hearing these fucking bands and their radio friendly pop shit.

>>510907264
Ai Generated.

>>510902670 (OP)
Metallica sold their soul to Satan.

https://youtu.be/CCEMOWfO1TY?si=3iGupJ_gtP4tGZOo

Fuck heavy rock music

>>510910141
>Metallica was never played on regular rotation on MTV until AFTER Nirvana blew up. They would’ve been sequestered to occasional airings on the ‘Headbangers Ball’ show late at night. Metallica released their toned down for mainstream ‘Black’ album the same year as Nevermind coincidentally.
Yes, for all the criticism grunge gets, their breakthrough allowed Metallica to get recognition after being an underground act for a decade.

>>510904702
>Homosexual indie is better than rock

>>510910622
I like And Justice For All even though it has no bass and some songs are too long. Poor Newsted.

>>510910330
>Agreed. As much as people are nostalgic for late 90s/early 00s culture now, I just don't feel it. I also look back on that era as the beginning of the decline. Sure, things were a lot simpler and more laid back in that era compared to today but a lot of the creativity from the early 90s were gone.
Thanks, Swedanon. I agree.
I did like some electronica of the late 90s and early 2000s, like L'amour Toujours.

>>510910681
Some homosexuals are fine
https://youtu.be/4YR_Mft7yIM

>>510910729
There's a few fa edits of Justice on jewtube with the bass either boosted or re-done entirely at a decent level (the latter for tracks not on rocksmith or whatever), some of which are pretty good.

A fairly mediocre album though, in terms of songwriting, except for One and Blackened.

>>510902670 (OP)
Metallica and GnR never left mtv

It was Slayer and Motley Crue that got the ax

Pretty much. Nirvana fags went on the Headbangers Ball wearing ballroom gowns because they were shabbos goy shitting on the white man's last refuge in music. They were pushing suicidal aparhy to white youths and rap to anyone who projected their frustration outwardly (toward functioning white society).
The options for pop culture identity were kill yourself or kill whitey.

>>510902670 (OP)
Epstein ran an Mossad satanic sex blackmail operation for 30 years with protection by several US Presidents. Maybe Dave Grohl is on the list, who knows.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=417oCTbxnf4

>>510911001
Nah man, I enjoy most of that album minus the title track and the instrumental. Dyers Eve is good as fuck and one of their best closers unironically.

>>510902957
Gen X hates grunge for killing rock and metal. Grunge is millennial music.

>>510909568
>>510910330
Lmao, early 90's where extremely gay, once the USSR went to shit in 89/91 the West also went to shit. Fuck, I even prefer Britpop to Grunge.

>>510911322
No it isn't. Grunge started in late 1980s and reached peak in early 1990s, virtually 0 Millennials were old enough during that time to form a band

>>510911322
lol you spastic.

>>510911427
>to form a band
We're talking about the fan base. Grunge blew up in the 90's when millennials were teens.

>>510911322
https://youtu.be/e7bxXjQL3cY?

>>510911170
>Pretty much. Nirvana fags went on the Headbangers Ball wearing ballroom gowns because they were shabbos goy shitting on the white man's last refuge in music. They were pushing suicidal aparhy to white youths and rap to anyone who projected their frustration outwardly (toward functioning white society).
I wonder if the depressing turn of grunge music in the early 90s was like the "death cry" or death rattle of the white working class as a force in society. By the early 90s, neoliberalism was already in effect as the dominant economic system and the white working class had almost been fully crushed (NAFTA was the final nail in the coffin, a few years later).
Rock is white working class music, ultimately. Yes, there was originally black influence, but rock took off among ordinary whites in the 60s and remained the genre of regular white people.
The 80s is when the white working class started to get destroyed and power shifted to the yuppies. It was no longer honorable or respectable to be a blue collar worker, rather something to be ashamed of.
So in the 80s, this hard truth, and the changing ethos, was covered over by glam bands, so people could pretend things were still okay. By the early 90s, people wanted culture to reflect the changes that had occurred in society. Shows like "Married with Children" and "The Simpsons," and most of all "Roseanne," depicting white working class life as not all that great anymore became overnight successes (really in the late 80s) because they seemed authentic and truthful to most people. Way more truthful than "Silver Spoons" and the earlier 80s shows.
So by the early 90s, we got a breakthrough of truth in the music world: truth being that it's over for the white working class, the bedrock of rock music. That was the death scream for this class as any relevant political force or group in society.
After grunge, the white working class funeral was over, and black people (rap etc.) and pop stars (Brittney Spears)

>>510911420
>I even prefer Britpop to Grunge.
I do too. I never liked Nirvana or the other bands that were labeled "grunge". But I did like the alternative rock bands that Nirvana took inspiration from that were active in the late 80s/early 90s. Bands like Dinosaur Jr, Pixies, Pavement, Sonic Youth, Yo La Tengo, Husker Du etc

>>510902670 (OP)
No, it went from New Kids on the Block and Vanilla Ice to Nirvana.

>>510911491
Go talk to actually gen Xers who are in the music scene. None of them liked Nirvana and to this day they shit on them.

>>510911691
[continued] became the new dominant demographics. Basically, the political and social role the white working class had played historically was now replaced by blacks and by white yuppies, i.e. rap and pop music as this was expressed in mainstream music culture.

>>510911631
No they weren't but Gen X. I am 90s baby and I wasn't even born when Smells like Teen Spirit came. Even older Millennials born in 1980s were no teens in early 1990s

>>510911775
I'm a gen xer and I was in a grunge band in 1992, retard.

>>510911696
A lot of alternative was better than Nirvana, but I do like Alice in Chains. They just seemed more real, if rather dark also.

>>510909148
yeah then they became their own unoqye genre: retard metal

Ill never forget when I first saw the video to Smells Like Teen Spirit wearing my newly bought White Lion t shirt

Yes, because the cold war ended. Hard rock/heavy metal was a psyop to collapse the Soviet union and eastern block, culminating in Winds of Change by Scorpions. As soon as the wall fell those bands lost CIA funding. Grunge became the new psyop to faggotize white men's music and popular culture and pave the way for Rap's dominance as the preferred soundtrack of globo homo.

>>510911631
The oldest millennials were 13-14 when Cobain died. It was very much a gen X scene, especially the formative years. Your opinion is so retarded it makes me wonder if it is bait

Reminder that it's been 100% proven that Kurt did not kill himself. The note wasn't even in his handwriting and after Courtney's coke dealer did a documentary explaining that she had him killed, he was murdered. Watch "Kurt and Courtney".

>>510902670 (OP)
no, soundgarden and pearl jam paved the way for this faggot

>>510902957
We thought the music sounded good and most of us were tired of hair metal.

>>510904702
appetite for destruction was a great album. it was perfect for the times we were in

>>510911946
Mother Love Bone paved the way for the whole genre.

>>510911775
Nirvana didn't like Nirvana, that's why Cobain painted the wall with his brains

>>510911913
That dorky Beavis and Butthead character who always wore a Winger shirt cemented Winger's reputation as a band to be made fun of. Kind of a sad end

>>510907928
When white people get too comfortable, Nirvana happens.

>>510911691
>I wonder if the depressing turn of grunge music in the early 90s was like the "death cry" or death rattle of the white working class as a force in society. By the early 90s
It was the manufactured platforming of outcast faggots who would normally get bullied into oblivion if nature were allowed to take its course.
>Rock is white working class music
Hell yeah it is. Always has been.
>truth being that it's over for the white working class
Yeah the same time they targeted young white men to get them addicted to opiates. None of it was an accident or an organic development.

Gen X were so cringe

>>510912057
Dave Grohl murdered him.

>>510912102
Yep
But when alone I would crank shes only seventeen

>>510911631
Grunge could never kill the metal, they tried, but they failed

>>510912030
>appetite for destruction was a great album. it was perfect for the times we were in
Agreed
All of Guns n' Roses hits have over a billion YouTube views now and people from all over the world love those songs today.

>>510903568
Agreed. Based anon

Anything from the 90s is levels above the shit music of today

>>510909603
>wahhhh wahhhh muh riffs
>FOR FORTY FUCKIN YEARS STRAIGHT

>>510911804
Yeah because you were a faggot and none of your peers liked you.
>>510911938
You just described the largest target demographic for the music industry.
>>510912057
Kek

>>510912102
Winger is a great band. Very talented.

>>510902670 (OP)
Kurt Cobaim <3

>>510910673
Gen X’s most interesting artists were hidden from them until the doors were blown open in 1991. Unless you were living in a major city and really tapped into an underground scene, you would be completely oblivious. Sales figures before 1991 depended on a system of bribes, fraud, and lies made up by industry insiders and record store owners. Accurate recording of music sales only began in 1991 with implementation of the Soundscan system.
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/billboard-soundscan/

Kurt had some rare pain in his gut that was chronic and lasted for years, that also played role in his suicide. It was a rare condition and they had no cure

>>510912166
Why donhis band mates keep dying?
>>510912223
Yes and Jack Black has unironically done more for rock music in recent years than anyone else in the industry. Look at the Minecraft movie soundtrack.

>>510910291
im normal and never done it does that mean im abnormal?

>>510912495
Yeah right. Every drug addict will use this excuse to use drugs and why they literally have to have it.

>>510912370
The riffing and soloing in Seventeen go hard as fuck. The lyrics are just kind of cringe so you have to watch out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irc5j1gkihY

>>510912326
>You just described the largest target demographic for the music industry.
Were you alive then? I was. The concept of millennials didn't even exist yet, that was late 90's. 1994 was the culmination of grunge, the formative years were in the 80s and early 90s, the musicians were all X'ers. The oldest millennials were little kids still. It's not correct at all to associate grunge with millennials. Millennials were responsible for faggot shit like the backstreet boys and n sync, they're a faggot generation

>>510902670 (OP)
some history for you then. this is out of my memory. friday nights MTV would air 120 minutes and headbangers ball. nirvana debuted on 120 minutes which was usually new niche music that didn't make it into daytime rotation. it was at least a month before it showed up on normal mtv. so it wasn't overnight. i was a young child with not much else to do on fridays nights, so i religiously watched both shows.

>>510903015

grunge was was a new fad / scene but it never fully replaced rock. it did replace the previous Gen of hair bands like Nelson etc

Nirvana fucking sucked, why do people still idolize this whiny faggot?

>>510912113
>It was the manufactured platforming of outcast faggots who would normally get bullied into oblivion if nature were allowed to take its course.
Maybe there was some spook fuckery going on, but I think the reason it gained mass appeal is because by the late 80s there was a massive hunger among the white working class, who were still the large majority of the population, which seemed to reflect their actual lives by that time, which were going downhill fast.
And of course there was a lot of misrepresentation of life in the media even in the newer, "refreshing" TV shows like Married with Children, The Simpsons, and Roseanne. Al Bundy, even in 1988, could not have afforded that house and lifestyle working as a shoe salesman. In real life, even then, they'd have been living in a small apartment.
So the media gave people some depiction of dissatisfaction but of course wasn't entirely truthful.

>>510912144
Lmao, this photo is extremely pathetic

>>510902957
I'm an Xer Übermensch, and always thought nirvana (among many others) was faggot shit, desu

>>510902957
Kurt was great. You're a fag.

>>510902957
SOUL

>>510912960
It's just faggots liking other faggots

No. Before Nirvana they played exclusively things like Vanilla Ice and so much tranny rock like Poison and Winger.

>>510913194
He was a feminine faggots who hated whites.

>>510903015
>Enter Sandman
Metallica was already long dead in 1991
their last great album is ...And Justice For All, in 1988
after that, only faggot shit from them

>>510913390
Fuck off negative crerp

>>510902670 (OP)
>>510902957
>That Cobain pussy had to come around and ruin it all

>>510903015
Well said

Lots of 80s metal songs were like Broadway showtune progressions. But with Marshalls and 25-piece kits, they sound badass.

Once you learn that all music feeds into other music, you gain an appreciation for artists' intellect.

Nirvana stands out to me because of the tonal color. It's heavy minor, like lots of rock, but with an eastern scale feel at times. It's the quintessential 90s thing. I don't think they're genius, but I think they deserve their acclaim. Based on the aforementioned idea: They blended punk, metal, a bit of country, and a bit of eastern music in a creative way and came out with Nirvana. They didn't come up with anything totally new, but yet they did. If that makes sense. That's the fun of music.

MTV was excellent in the early 1980s. They only played music videos and it was mostly random but excellent music like Paul McCartney and Styx. By 1987 or so it was shitty and gay like it is now.

>>510905142
this song and band sucks ass. that's why gnr has absolutely no legacy outside of the retarded boomers that liked this shit when it came out

>>510902957
Good. Fuck GNR and "glam" rock. Dumpster music.

>>510912495
>his """"suicide""""
Courtney Love couldn't deal with his earth-shattering farts and put him out of his misery

>>510904340
Black Sabbath is rock, not metal

>>510912495
Dude, ever met a junkie before? They lie. He was experiencing heroin withdrawals if anything.

>>510902957
What you typed out is literally a jimi Hendrix show.
Or sex pistols.

>>510913837
It's proto-metal. The dark and evil sound was there. Many doom and sludge metal bands took their sound.
Electric wizard sounds a lot like black sabbath.

>>510913497
You're gay and you like gay music
, but in your case is normal saaaaaaar

>>510902670 (OP)
Kek. Wait till you learn about the invention of rap "music".

Went from Grunge/Alternative to Spice Girls and Boy Bands overnight, too

>>510914035
Gay or sexy bg music?
https://youtu.be/tzVJPgCn-Z8

>>510914019
>It's proto-metal
and thus rock
>doom and sludge
faggot shit, anyway

>>510911322
You're a retard. Most Millennials were 10 and under when grunge was at its peak. Millennial music is nu metal.

>>510909603
Kek

>>510902670 (OP)
Yeah pretty much, good thing grunge died out after a few years.

>>510902957
he sucked and deserved to die, but dave grohl (the guy who killed him) sucks even more

>>510910673
>Metallica to get recognition
for faggot shit

>>510912030
>for the times we were in
Must have sucked to be in a sucky moment, then. Rock music sucked in the 1980s unless it was indie anyway. Thanks for proving my point, GNR was just a "cool" version of hair metal until an actual cool band (Nirvana) showed up. Again: GNR is embarassing. You should just worship Van Halen at that point. The guitar was better and at least David Lee Roth knew he was a clown and not le serious genius dummy Axel eventually drug-inducedly began believing himself to be.
>>510912102
Very little separates Winger from GNR
>>510912224
I'm glad a billion people have terrible taste. Good NPC detector if someone actually likes such a shit band as GNR and defends them to this day. Pathetic glam rock with just a bit of edge (I guess the drummer drummed like it was a metal band?) but literally just Led Zeppelin extremely mildly light. They were the "we have Led Zeppelin at home" band for people who were born 10 years too late for Zep but so unhip they couldn't understand actual cool indie alternative music in the '80s and apparently never got the memo since.

>>510914248
Wait and Bleed is a jam, but the first album had like maybe 3 good tracks. The rest is just uninspired slime.

>>510910636
>Ai Generated

It's real and there's plenty of pics of Kurt with dresses. He even wore a gown to the Headbanger's Ball with his "date" the bass player guy

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/apr/30/mark-lanegan-screaming-trees-kurt-cobain-death-liam-gallagher-sing-backwards-and-weep

>>510913958
Yes, all Jewish music is mindrot. Congrats on growing up.

>>510914248
No, peak Millennial is post-grunge/weird musical zydeco that American mainstream music was, which included the rise of female musician popularity, a swing revival, and a Latin Invasion on the charts. Jam bands also became popular at this time and the basement scene rose, leading to an indie music renaissance in America that carried through into the 2000s.>>510914351

>>510914161
>rap "music"
An artist can't make a good rap and not be musically inclined. It's 100% music.

>>510914173
>>510914035
Its gay raul,
https://youtu.be/_1pBmDqgviI?si=MB0MuBlo_po0e9yL

>>510908494
1st wave nu metal was a mixed bag but don't forget the Disney boy bands

>>510910141
>>510910673
Enter Sandman video debuted on MTV on July 30, 1991 and became a hit, and One was a Dial MTV hit video from there previous platinum album. Smells like Teen Spirit Nirvana video didn't debut until September 29, 1991

>>510902957
hey, wait, I got a new complaint
Forever in debt to your priceless adviiiiice

>>510914236
I respect the instrumental parr of black sabbath. Only the vocals are horrible.

>>510914803
Lmao, more masculine than any Indian "men"

>>510915176
The vocals aren't too bad, the lyrics in a lot of their songs are great.

>>510914484
Indiefag just admit that you're gay and stop coping

>>510915176
I actually like Black Sabbath
*with Ozzie (horrible vocals have never prevented rock from being great: see Can and Damo Suzuki)
but it's rock, not metal
proof enough is that horrible vocals are very detrimental to metal (noticeably, the laughable double voice all along Cannibal Corpse's a skeletal domain, signaling their death from old age)
or Death's the sound of perseverance: until then, Chuck Schuldiner was a fruit, but a cool fruit; his voice (noticeably) on Death's last album was so gay it gave him brain cancer, and then he died
I consider that as an important lesson

>>510915344
Please don't make me laugh so hard

>>510902670 (OP)
Pretty close yes. Metallica lumbered on. GnR did ok with their double album then vanished. All the gay hair metal bands essentially vanished overnight.

>>510915574
sahr, your "men" have less grip strength than white women, you sahr fucking

nevermind and use you illusion came out in the same months, black months earlier so no. they all suck anyhow and anon is juden well poisoner.

>>510903015
Yeah the ultimate druggie faggot anthem came out right around that time too

>>510915616
An actual midget was your king

>>510902670 (OP)
in the early 90's the attention of the music world wasn't on muttland it was on bongland. the jews were seething and crying because they couldn't monetise what was going on in bongland. so they just threw any old shit at the wall to see what would stick, thus nirvana. i thought it was very whiny and cringe at the time.

>>510915760

>>510915760
still taller than current year streetshitting monkeys, lol

>>510911992
Holy shit this.

>>510908936
Non of that disproved my point. I saw Nirvana live in 93 btw. I've seen the Pixies twice.

>>510915781
Counting Crows were FUCKING WHINY.

>>510915811

>>510915171
Lol nirvana opened the doors for metallica. Man being an old fag allows a person to see how history gets distorted.

Metallica released one video (the One video) prior to the black album by choice. That video got plenty of play. Then on their next shitty black album they had like 8 videos in consistent rotation....not because of Nirvana...because they gayified their sound for the masses and decided being non-posers by not making videos was a stupid career move.

>>510915428
Oh fuck, you put the fag word at the end of indie! How will I cope and seethe over your devastating wordsmithery? Oh right, because you like Audioslave and Nickelback whatever uninteresting rock slop is put into your trough because it appeals to the dumbest lowest common denominator. Go enjoy your gay butt rock featuring men with permed hair, I guess.

>>510915574
I know is hard for a woman to understand (all Indians are effectively women), but men kill bulls, don't drink cown pepe.

>>510902976
/thread

>>510915801
>there is nothing we can do…

But seriously, it’s hilarious that British propaganda was so good, Indians still fall for the height thing 200 years later (even back then the average European was taller than you are)

>>510914484
go fuck yourself faggot. tonnes of great bands came out of the 80's you fucking cunt. Metallica for example. fucking faggot ass indie homo, go suck dicks

Nirvana are the best band ever and all the fags saying otherwise in here 100% like Nickleback.

>>510915893
yes, there were lots of whiny cunts about at the time. i enjoyed what was going on in bongland. seeing jews lose it, is fun.

>>510915801
Napoleon was 168

It wasn’t over night, but it took off pretty fast.

>>510916062
Kek

>>510915927
>Napoléon: 1.69m
>average jeet "male":1.74m
meanwhile, I'm 1.91m tall (and I'm 45: zoomlets are getting taller than people my age), lol
you streetshitting monkeys really are niggerwits beyond any redeeming, lmao

>>510915965
>I know is hard for a woman to understand (all Indians are effectively women),
Boy you are so smart, you can make jokes now Waw
Tie a rope around your dick and jump from a tree you faggot

>>510912326
Everyone who was a teenager was into grunge then except for a few kids into rave and the NPCs into pop music, but you're just baiting anyway. I hope one day you can find friends of your own. It's a beautiful experience.

>>510916298
>Tie a rope around your dick
just jeet things

>>510902670 (OP)
Kind of.
They started with these things called Buzz Clips which were music videos that would randomly play during the day. Bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Live, and others. Looking back it was so obvious what they did. But I was 10 or 11 at the time, and bought in to it.

>>510916035
Name another band that's "great" from the 1980s besides GNR (who suck, but whatever). I'd say the best American band of the 1980s is R. E. M. but that's just indie fag shit to you. So who is it for you? Warrant? Rat? Loser.
>>510916040
Yeah, not what I was saying, and you're such a coward or drunk you didn't even reply to me directly or answer the actual charge, that you like generic retarded buttrock. Put Use Your Illusion vol. I & II and feel embarassed you even own those albums.

>>510916518
foreigner

>>510916283
Oh wow, watch out for planes dude

>>510916298
>average Indian penis size: 13cm
At least I can tie the rope

>>510912758

... and nu metal.

>>510916393
Fuck, not even niggers reach this levels.

>>510916577

>>510915781
90s British music was peak
https://youtu.be/KufHiyMcurY
https://youtu.be/YVrMBBR5QW8
https://youtu.be/8YarHCFGFYg
https://youtu.be/igUNDu8DNbI

>>510906569
In Gus Van Sant's film The Last Days ( which is loosely based on Cobain) the music always playing in the background is Boyz 2 Men . I got the chills from watching it the first time because it made it feel more real.

>>510915781
Utter twaddle, Guns n Roses were huge globally before Nirvana put Nevermind out.

>>510916567
thanks for the tip
it's true planes are sometimes "piloted" by jeet niggerwits
luckily, we've been able to witness them crash not long after take off

>>510916577
Do a backflp

>>510916920
>Guns n Roses were huge globally
yeah that was like '88 or some shit. '88 to '93 totally belonged to bongland. gnr were wank too, paradise city was ok but that was about it. sweaty rockers are very faggy too.

>>510917021
>t. juggernaut enthusiast
lmao

>>510916814
I wouldn't call it peak, but at least they weren't crying like faggots.

>>510916518
Nirvana are from the 1980s

>>510917126
fuck off.

>>510917021
Sorry colonial. You don’t call the shots.

>>510917350
kvetch moar, streetshitting monkey

>>510902670 (OP)
MTV Unplugged absolutely ruined rock & metal. Everything good about music, really. Just when metal became big MTVU came along and pulled the rug out from under it with their stupid acoustic strumming.

>>510916543
Born and bred USA '82 zoomer mutt

>>510916518
>I'd say the best American band of the 1980s is R. E. M.
Absolutely destroyed by any average commercial plastic metal band

>>510917395
https://youtu.be/9n-XnSoAneU?si=WvycRkqg2ljJHSps
What are the political implications of this Biohazard video? Did you need it or keep it, early millennials/later Gen Xers?
>nb4 the singer’s a jew

>>510917350
Go back to your country

>>510902670 (OP)
Yeah they found a new "It" sacrifice ritual in this hoarse sadcunt from Aberdeen where it rains 24/7 of course his jewish wife killed him and Dave Grohl made a deal with Satan at the cost of his tibia

>>510917286
Thanks for proving my point. GNR were miles behind some nobody band that recorded their debut album in '88 for $600 and still outclassed them even then

>>510909603
Dave will sing One when James dies

>>510917518
>not watching that
I love Canada BTW, beautiful country.

>>510916814
This was pretty good actually, no homo
https://youtu.be/Epj84QVw2rc?si=d-9hHX4mwUQNAPFL

>>510917507
Lol seethe harder as the empty irrelevant hair metal worship you love is proven completely irrelevant and always has and will be. Go jerk off on Slash's permed wig, oldfag. I thought I was old until I met you on here. Objectively, you will likely dead from heart disease soon so go listen to your fag god hit the high notes while doing high kicks from his stage show 30+ years ago. Literal oldfag.

>>510917793
For me, it's this one
I like the movie too, even if it's widely hated
https://youtu.be/gkuUnnlAPZk

>>510917395
Lmao, don't you have to show your asshole to the migrant rape gangs soon henry

It’s crazy how big the industry was back then. There were CD’s sold everywhere. Fucking Kmart had one section bigger than the entire dollar store

>>510917518
It's messed up that as much time has passed between today and Biohazard as between Biohazard and the beginning of rock 'n' roll, and even more time than between BH & the beginning of metal.

>>510917919
>t. pic related

>>510917849
Ok fag. I'm probably 20 years younger than you. The only difference is that I'm not gay and I fuck women.

>>510917096
Patience was 89, Knockin on Heaven's Door was 90, You Could Be Mine, Don't Cry and Live and Let Die were 91, November Rain 92, Civil War and Estranged 93.

Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Garth Brooks, Billy Ray Cyrus, Janet and Michael Jackson and New Kids on the Block sold tons of albums around 1989-1993. I'm seeing one George Michael album with a lot. What else?

>>510910729
>I like And Justice For All even though it has no bass and some songs are too long. Poor Newsted.
>
Weren't there later remaster releases where they let you hear more of his awesome bass shredding style he can do?

>>510916814
>No Spice Girls
big fail, anon

>>510902957
Does any kind anon have the plebs to the whole thread of posts like this about all the bands? I wouldn't usually beg but it seems this may be the end of our beautiful frenship.

>>510918118
French are well know to be faggots and sexual deviant, you have the largest muslims and african population, you prefer sodomisers but also sodomisers with bbc

>>510918253
No. Those were fan edits or overplays.

>>510918176
Depeche mode and the last two Queen albums, until Suede not much more really.
The Stone Roses and the Manchester sound was not really that big outside of GB and almost unheard outside of Europe.

>>510911775
>None of them liked Nirvana and to this day they shit on them.
They were okay. A few tunes were yes very catchy. But poets of a generation bullshit like that? Uh, no.

>>510918334
You also have a cock once your soccer team logo

>>510918334
>According to World Population Review, India has the world's third-largest Muslim population, with approximately 200 million Muslims as of 2021, making it the largest Muslim-minority population globally.

>>510918567
We didn't import them from africa

>>510918176
>I'm seeing one George Michael album with a lot. What else?
as i said the jews couldn't monetise what was going on in bongland. people were just sampling whatever the fuck they wanted. putting it out on white label 12" and basically just making it work on cash record sales. you can't play that kind of shit on MTV and radio stations. tiny little towns in bongland had 5 pirate radio stations and shit like that. we made rave nights work with basically no bar sales, patchy ticket sales and maybe 50% control of the drug market.

>>510918334
not being a urban sodomite (but from a place where we point and laugh at faggots), I've only seen 45 shitskins yet in 2025, ,ie about 1.5/week in average (a lot less in practice, since they roam in packs)
meanwhile, you'll always be a streetshitting fecaloid, expectedly obsessed with pooper and poop
and as expected as well from your humanoid species, being the one with the smallest brains and dicks, you're likely a faggot

Nirvana basically told everyone into glam rock and lively music to tone it down and say the party is over. From positive tunes to moody music. Notice how the music became “deep” and slow in the 90s with lots of angst.

The same happened when scene from the MySpace era was told to stop being flamboyant and full of energy and instead become hipsters into tryhard quieter aesthetics and music.

Nirvana is the band that tells people to stop having fun.

>>510902670 (OP)
No, because a lot of dance music became big in the late 80s/ early 90s and that trend lasted until about 94. Paula Abdul, Sade, Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston (before she got really big off of the Bodyguard soundtrack) Then gangster rap got BIG on MTV around 92, so really, it wasn't as big of a change as you'd think. The hair metal bands had been oversaturating the market and most people were moving on to dance and hip-hop, so when grunge came it just joined the dance/hip-hop rotation on MTV.

.t 49 year old gen x'er who was 17 in 1993

>>510918566
leave it to streetshitting monkeys to watch niggerball, and even watch it for the gay cocks, lol

>>510918813
>glam rock
>flamboyant
you mean Nirvana is the band that told people to stop being fags

https://youtu.be/glXD69erveU?si=Ej1GIX61yRmE4oaf

STOP listening to dogshit new Taylor swift

START listening to everything from 1990’s exclusively

>>510918456
>almost unheard outside of Europe.
i bet if you asked most mutts who are 50-55 now, they would've known about it at the time. especially east coast city dwellers.

>>510918749
Don't care about your problems

>>510902670 (OP)
No. Grunge destroyed the hair bands though but it took a few years. Metallica fell out when that faggot Lars Ulrich and Muh Napster Rock and Roll Money, but their shit with Dave Mustane was legit. Listen to Nirvana’s album Bleach and you will get a better feel for the depth and energy of Nirvana. Scoff is a good example. They not to be such a dumb nigger and learn to distinguish good music from the shit that the industry tried to feed us.

>>510913581
>It's heavy minor, like lots of rock, but with an eastern scale feel at times. It's the quintessential 90s thing
>
Yeah, for fucks sake. In the 90s you basically had to implement some obscure weird guitar tuning, just to learn to play the mid-tier song on the radio. It got ridiculous. Every hit song, had its own tuning.

>>510919112
>y-y-y-you
always the most pathetic answer, streetshitting monkey

>>510918618
Not my problem

>>510919221
Smells like I don't give a fuck

>>510919134

https://youtu.be/HL9kaJZw8iw

>>510919437
you prbly just smelt shit, then
which is quite normal, seeing your "flag"

>>510916518
old Queensryche. Accept, early Metallica. There was a lot of heavy stuff and some of it was technical or progressive. Not everything was the pop charts.

>>510919551
Nigger you are french, you've been smelling like shit and gonorrhea long before us

>>510902957
He had a great voice and they had a great drummer

Idk any Gen X that are anywhere near this talented though

>>510903015
This. Somebody else who was actually there

>>510919693
At least they make good food and have some actual fuckable women left in their gene pool.

>>510919693
>I-I-I-I'm not the fucking: y-y-y-y-you're the fucking
Kek

This is all irrelevant anyway, this bickering, since Cardiacs have always been the greatest band in the world and always will be.

>>510902670 (OP)
No we just listened to all of it at the same time. Still do. The rivalry is way overplayed.

>>510902670 (OP)
MTV was always a toilet.

>>510919693
At least they know how to use cologne

>>510920346
Yes the 70s and 90s had mysteriously near perfect music and most other generations do not

Something to do with the money they made in the 50s probably

>>510912716
I wonder how long is it going to be until Femtards and their simpysoygoys take this song down?

>>510920346
Gen X will cope but this is true.

>>510920512
The 90's are not even close to the 70's

>>510902670 (OP)
He propbably would have liked tennis.

>>510902670 (OP)
It took a few years, which of course seems like overnight when looking back at decades and decades.

Same how they shifted from grunge and alternative rock to nu-metal and pop-punk a few years after that.

>>510905142
The gaylords that hate this song?
They have never had their dick sucked on in their life by a women that looked good enough to model in Russia.
Just saying.

>>510918154
Do you like Manowar?
https://youtu.be/2b0qCPGAOo8?si=wsgufcUWrZAWUr2a
I feel like this is a band thrashers, hair glam people, and grungers could all agree on, albeit grungers only ironically.

>>510917501
the band, dumbass

>>510920938
Very commercial but cool, and I love the Conan style. Me and my friends play it in the car when we go to party.

>>510917518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL632M1-C3E

Another Biohazard Fan.
I am in good company.

>>510920938
These are better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dodxYkBEyV8

>>510921557
This is goofy comedic circus music. I respect the talent and creativity but I couldn’t take much of this.

>>510918934
Nobody actually dressed like glam rockers. People knew they looked ridiculous. They just liked the music and partied hard.

Nirvana suddenly showing up told everyone to immediately stop doing that. To stop having fun. To stop partying. The worst part? It was to create a new rat race all over again telling everyone who bought stuff throughout the 80s such as merchandise, clothing styles, albums, posters, guitars, etc to immediately hop on a new corporate bandwagon, starting the cycle all over again. A capitalist Jewish scam. Same thing happened when hipsters became a thing. Throw out your pink tees and buy flannels.

Both grunge and hipster LARPing as working class, mind you. Both of them rich kids from suburbia full of angst.

>>510910291
>wearing women’s clothes is a rite of passage for young men

Cross dressing was an initiation for men in my high school band. I participated in this Spring 1997; it had been a tradition for many years at my HS. It ended a few years later because some bitch complained about it being hazing and, thus, violating the school code of conduct. This was in the heart of the Bible belt btw.

>>510921557
They're funny, I'll give you that

>>510921980
Based

>>510917793
Good taste.
It reminds me of the better times anon.
But there was very little better.
All an illusion.
But it was good times.

>>510922051
https://youtu.be/7B5PrIQYuRo

>>510921894
That's cool, that's the standard, typical reaction from most people. I just like playing it to people to see how they react. Every now and then get one that doesn't like it but still can't get away, and has to keep watching like at viewing a car crash. Then, a little bit after that, they become one of us.

>>510922051
Aye, that's partly what i love about them, the comedy act that goes with it.

>>510902670 (OP)
Yeah, sometime after Nevermind came out, the label had to stop pressing all other CDs in their catalogue just so they could keep with the demand for that album. It was pretty nuts.

>>510905339
Do motherfuckers really act like they forgot about Quorthon?

>>510902670 (OP)
>>510902957
Niggers

>>510922598
Yes. Just like everyone forgot Therion.

>>510921980
Culture is cyclical. There was a recession in the early 90s so the glum mood was probably relatable to a lot of young people at the time. Conversely, it’s well documented that women’s skirts get shorter during economic booms. No one is forcing you to buy new clothes. You seem like someone who is totally beholden to mainstream consensus corporate culture. People were still free to buy tickets to concerts of bands they liked if the new trend didn’t speak to them. If anything, they could have more fun because the fallen off glam bands would be playing smaller venues with cheaper ticket prices.

>>510914626
>Yes, all Jewish music is mindrot. Congrats on growing up.
I think rock music, beginning in the 50s and 60s, is more than just Jewish mindrot, though certainly some of it is. The music of the 60s seems to me like a cultural explosion that occurred due to new technology, specifically the electric guitar and the recording studio. New musicians were eager to test what these new musical technologies could do and push their limits, just like classical musicians did in the 18th century when the piano evolved out of the harpsichord.

>>510915370
>The vocals aren't too bad, the lyrics in a lot of their songs are great.
"War Pigs" has great lyrics.