Thread 510926057

Bonds Are the Most Redpilled Investment

Everyone’s busy chasing crypto pumps, meme stocks, and whatever hype is trending online. Meanwhile, the people who actually control capital governments, central banks, and the elite are quietly holding bonds. Bonds aren’t flashy, but they’re powerful. They pay you consistent income, preserve wealth, and make you a creditor to the system rather than a victim of it. While most are screaming about inflation and economic collapse, bondholders are collecting checks and sleeping soundly.

Bonds represent stability, control, and long-term thinking. When you buy government debt, you're putting yourself in a position to benefit from the very system that exploits the undisciplined. You're not gambling on volatility. You're earning yield with minimal risk. Now that interest rates are no longer near zero, bonds are offering real returns again. Long-duration Treasuries, TIPS, and municipal bonds all provide solid options. And when the next crash hits, as it always does, bonds will do what they have always done: preserve capital and pay out.

This is what the elite have always known. Bonds are how dynasties are built, not through moonshot bets but through patience, income, and compounding. If you are serious about sovereignty, financial independence, and playing the long game, you need to stop chasing hype and start thinking like the people in power. Bonds are the redpill. Everything else is just noise.

>>510926057 (OP)
Norwegians are the most attractive women on the planet. (I didn't read your post btw. Coom baiters never deserve engagement.)

>>510926057 (OP)
I don't understand how any of that shit works I just hold onto cash.
>b-but it's losing value!!!
Yeah, so did stocks when I tried buying them. It's all dogshit.

>>510926186
you owe it to yourself to learn how money works

>>510926158
Its Swedes for me, but I can see what you are saying.

>>510926057 (OP)
i bet holding on to her isn't minimal risk

>coomer bait
>blog post i wont read
>1 post op
>replies from horny zoomers with their dicks in their hand
nothing of value in this thread

>>510926666
>people told me buy stocks because they go up in value
>i did
>they're now worth less
>would have been better off never buying
Learned all I needed to. Investing is a scam.

>>510926057 (OP)
>government defauts on bonds

>>510926057 (OP)
>jail Bonds Are the Most Redpilled Investment

ftfy

>>510927118
>people told me buy stocks
there's your mistake
look, if you're making an investment based on what some other jackass says or even some technical indicators say, you're doing it wrong.
You need to do your own due diligence, have a good reason to believe a particular security will go up or down, have this idea confirmed with technicals and fundamentals, and have a clearly set exit strategy.

If you have all of those things, you may still lose but you will lose less over time.
Investing and trading is more of a process.
You can do everything right and still sometimes lose but you'll be richer long term.

>>510926057 (OP)
What are bonds? Sorry I know nothing about investments but would be glad to learn

>>510928193
its a contract with your government to be a good boy

>>510926158
I need to see her without make-up and completely naked before I am able to assess an Epstein score to her.

>>510926057 (OP)
Naw.

>>510928669
they all look the same naked anon. its a closely guarded secret.

>>510926666
Quads of truth. Dont be a slave, invest.

It's amazing how most people are niggers in this system basically who hate it. All for the elite to have more infinite power. But that's hardball for you.

>>510928692
That graphic makes a good point. There are some very wealthy people who got that way trading commodities, but doing so requires a lot of knowledge.

>>510928193
start here
books are ranked with my own brand of autism from top to bottom
it should get you started

>>510930447
the rest of it
also, these books are 75% for trading
if you don't like risk then disregard and lookup investing books

>>510926057 (OP)
>Government sells bonds at 5% interest rate per year.
>Government tells you that the inflation rate is 4% per year so your bonds are "earning" 1% per year.
>Meanwhile the REAL inflation rate is 7% per year and you are actually LOSING 2% per year on your bonds.
Who falls for this shit?
Seriously, who?

If you want me to buy one of your (soon to be worthless) "bonds" then it should be bought with gold (or silver) and pay dividends in gold (or silver).
For instance I buy a 100 gram gold bond for 100 grams of fine gold. EVERY year it pays me 2 grams of gold, and after x years I get my principle AND my dividend IN GOLD.

>>510928845
Same anon here, left Wi-Fi. No they don’t. From tits to cunt to belly, they differ a lot. For example, just recently I had this almost perfect girl, very cute face, amazing breasts (she even sunbathed topless for the perfect tan) but her pussy was gruesome, almost a boner killer, some sort of monster. In contrast, I also had this girl not so long ago where she had a mid face, perky tits and full of disgusting tattoos all over her body, but her pussy was like that of a cute little girl’s. A juicy fruit from heaven, a perfection singing hymens for you to eat it. I even asked her if she had gynoplasty, it was that good.
So, no. Not all look the same naked.

>>510930447
the thing is we're in a world of infinite QE these days
markets aren't working like they used to

>>510931249
this
it's better to be even a cryptobro than " to invest" in bonds

>>510931558
>infinite QE
[insert einstein quote].png
I agree with you.
And I think it's a wonderful thing that markets aren't the same.
What a wonderful opportunity that we're presented with.
Small investors can become HUGE investors in times of uncertainty like these.

>>510926057 (OP)
bonds are what people flee to when the markets are too volatile and shorting has been banned.

>>510927118
You're supposed to open up an RRSP & TFSA (or your American equivalent, (401(k) & Roth IRA, respectively), pick one of the bank's funds, pick a risk level you're comfortable with, and let them handle it. Picking stocks yourself if you're not a professional is basically just gambling.

Very stupid people will complain that the bank takes part of the profit - as though you're not still coming out ahead. I have coworkers like that. They insist they're better at picking stocks than the bank is and that the bank is just stealing from them. I ask them if they're so good at it why don't they quit their job and just buy and sell stocks and live off that. They have no answer - because they're retarded gamblers and deep down they know they're just gambling and can't make a reliable living off it.

>>510927685
>>510932535
So for most people who don't care to do all this effort themselves, investing is a scam.
Thank you for confirming.

>>510933034
I get it.
You just want to work your job and not have to worry about all of this extra shit.

>>510926057 (OP)
Bonds are what you do when you have enough money to just forget about it. Give yourself an allowance of 1mil off bond interest or something then just live your rich life without worrying about it anymore. If you're still trying to make it bonds are dumb.

>>510926158
desu I just wanna get away into an area that's cold for the better part of the year, some fjords to fish in, drive around the countryside meeting only a few cars along the way, the dream life

>>510926186
At least put it into a high yield savings account. I'm getting 4% interest which is also better than I did with stocks.

>>510926057 (OP)
wtf is a bond in the context you're using it in and how do you buy government debt?

I want to help pump Havanna Winter
is it a good time to invest?

>>510933787
depends on your country. for US go to https://www.treasurydirect.gov/

>>510926057 (OP)
who is she? i believe she talking about the defense system

>>510926057 (OP)
someone tell me where she is hiding the tattoos and piercings so i can be properly disgusted (she is a modern woman after all)

>>510926057 (OP)
>buy bonds at 1%
>inflation is at 15%

At least im an elite high status bond hodler haha

>>510932535
you can buy the same stocks the bank buys and not pay the fee

>>510934069
I'm from australia, my flag is next to my ID.
I want to know though, how do you buy government debt and why would you if countries are increasingly going more into debt?

>>510926158
between them and Dutch women desu

>>510934235
I think bonds are for you only after inheritance, huge business success, or if one of your FDs finally hits big. I might be wrong though

>>510934270
Nigger I am not going to search it for you. I know how it is done in US and my real flag. I can actually attend a physical bond auction(as in the auction itself, not the papers) to purchase some If I really want to.
One tip I can give you is to look at difference between “issued to holder” vs “issued to name”

>>510926057 (OP)
>jewconomics
no thanks
instead
>close all banks
>kill all bankers
>kill all rent trolls
>humanity blooms

>>510927118
You just need to hold index funds you retard.

>>510927118
You would’ve made bank, If you have been investing into my dear sir, Saruman’s, huge crystal balls.

>>510934270
>I'm from australia, my flag is next to my ID.
>I want to know though, how do you buy government debt and why would you if countries are increasingly going more into debt?

Confirm you have 3 months’ expenses cash first.

Open a SelfWealth (or similar) account.

Buy GBND in $500 chunks each month.

Add 5–10 individual eTB codes if you want a known maturity.

Rebalance once a year.

No multi-step issuers, no bond brokers, no spreadsheets. It shows up on your regular brokerage statement beside your super balance; income drops into your settlement account every quarter.

>>510934749
>why would you if countries are increasingly going more into debt?

“Why do this when governments keep borrowing more?”

Bonds aren't a government bank account

A bond is a fixed-term loan. Australia promises to pay interest (currently ~4 % for 3-5 year bonds) and then hand you back every cent you lent. The loan isn’t rolled over forever against you; it gets repaid and new investors step in.

Rising debt doesn’t automatically mean default for rich-country sovereigns

Australia issues bonds in Australian dollars; the RBA can always “print” dollars to redeem them.

Default risk is practically nil.

What CAN change is inflation. That’s why you blend bonds (stable income + shock absorber in recessions) with growth assets, and also why you favour shorter-dated or floating-rate AUD bonds (which is what GBND/eTBs mostly are).

Bonds behave differently from shares. In 2008, 2020 and most bear markets, Aussie government bond prices jumped 5-15 % while share prices fell.

They pay regular coupons you can reinvest while shares aren’t paying dividends, giving you “dry powder” to buy more shares cheap.

>>510926158

I'm good

>>510934445
I heard about this gig a long time ago, and how people have become millionaires from it but I've never seen it.
>A physical bond auction
So you buy a physical piece of paper that say it carries government debt?
Please tell me how much money you've made from this and tell me the organization that sets this up so I know you're not lying and I'll go visit one closest to me if any exist.

>>510926057 (OP)
>buy a bond
>have your money tied up for 2 to 30 years
>watch value of currency bond is priced in depreciate over time.
>cash in your bond. The government that you lent the money to now wants you to pay taxes on the principal and extra taxes on the interest they paid you for loaning them the money.
>Walk away with a 2 to 5% real ROI.
Are you really that retarded, OP?

>>510926057 (OP)
bonds are good if you are 80 years old and have less tolerance for risk in your investment strategy

>>510935045
>spoonfeed me
lol

>>510926158
Facts

>>510935226
Thats silly though man we are in a discussion between people you cant always just rely on telling people to "Google it" because youre ashamed youre uneducated on a topic.

>>510935226
Why would you buy bonds when interest rates keep going up rendering your bond less attractive to buyers continually, why the same currency you currently hold is constantly devalued, wouldn't a 10x better investment be gold, silver or bitcoin?

>>510935045

During the global financial crisis the Reserve Bank slashed interest rates from 7 % down to 3 %. At the same time long-term government bonds were suddenly paying low yields, so existing bonds that still paid the old, higher interest rates became hot property. An ordinary wage-earner did three simple things:

1. Refinanced the mortgage at new record-low rates, freeing up about three-hundred-grand in equity from the family home.

2. Poured that cash into indexed bond funds listed on the ASX – tickers VGB or IGB – and also bought some actual government “linkers” that protected against inflation. Interest rates kept dropping, bond prices kept rising.

3. Borrowed one extra dollar for every one dollar of their own money through cheap instalments offered by Macquarie Bank (a capped, three-year loan secured against the bonds). Because the bonds were considered rock-solid, the borrowing cost was tiny—less than the coupon on the bonds—so the extra profit was almost free leverage.

From 2008 onward the bond funds returned roughly 7-9 % a year without doing anything. Throw in the leverage and the result was 15 %+ per year, compounded. By topping up with inflation-linked bonds issued by Queensland and New South Wales in 2013 the pot grew even faster. The investor never traded frequently—just reinvested the coupons and rolled the short-term loan every three years.

By mid-2019 the untouched stake was well over one million dollars, still held in bonds, and all that had been done was refinancing once, filling out a few online brokerage orders, and waiting.

>>510935045
I don’t know how this all works in the kangarooland, sorry m8.
I don’t think it is a gig, what ever that is. Think of it as the most legal and periodic income in small increments (unless you start as a whale).
You better do you research first, read .gov, and then consult with a coupler of lawyers.

>>510935382
So basically the people that have done exceptionally well in bond buying are people that invested 15 years ago.
So tldr buy bonds when interest rate is at an all time high.

>>510935775
they also had million dollar homes and 300k in cash that turned into a mill after a decade in bonds

>>510926057 (OP)
>AI post
>1pbtid
>Asking anons to bail out the government
You Elgin fags glow like the sun

>>510935336
>Why would you buy bonds
I wouldn't.
They're not risky enough for me.
I'm still building wealth.
Maybe in a few years, when I've hit my target and just want to keep my money doing something, I'll look into bonds.
>>510935330
That guy who's "helping" you is not.
His situation is gonna be different from yours and he's gonna have different risk tolerances and appetite than you.
If you follow his strategy, you're gonna get rekt. I guarantee it and I don't know shit about the bond market.
The absolute fastest way I know of to blow up your account is to follow someone else's trading / investing advice to a T.
You need to read at the very least 3 books on whatever it is that you're gonna invest in or trade.
And make sure these 3 cocksuckers aren't all buddies that are saying the same thing.
You want to learn principles and then develop your own strategy based off of what generally works.

>>510931334
>sunbathed topless for the perfect tan
Stopped reading here

I keep putting into my S&P, nerds

I'm not buying your bonds, you did this to the currency now you have to accept it

>>510935669
did ur flag change from uk to australia?

>>510936459
yes, it did

>>510935775

The choice is simple:

Need capital preservation and certain cash at maturity keep the 5 % Term Deposit

If you can stomach 20 % or worse over 12 mo slice into index-tracking VAS or VHY and clip the > 7 % gross dividend.


Open / log in
CommSec, SelfWealth, nabtrade, Stake (or any CHESS-sponsored broker that also offers “cash hub”):
Account Cash Hub / Sweep Facility enable “SelfWealth Cash” or “CMA – CommBank Group”.
This a HIN-based cash sub-account earning overnight cash until you lock it.

Transfer AUD to the broker cash hub
POLi / Osko from your bank “Broker cash account”. Funds land T+0.
Target figure: the amount you want fully covered by the Commonwealth Government Guarantee (≤ AUD 250k per ADI).

Open the issuer’s term deposit inside the same interface
Menu: “Invest” “Term Deposits” or “Cash Products” “Open New TD”.
Pick an issuer showing ≥ 5 % for 6 m: e.g.
– Judo Bank 6 m @ 5.20 % p.a.
– ING 6 m @ 5.00 % p.a.
Maturity option: “Maturity back to Cash Hub”. Do **not** auto-roll; you want to re-bid every 180 days.

Lock the rate
Input “From Cash Hub” as source.
Click “Submit”. The money disappears from cash hub and becomes a ledger entry labelled “JudoBank TD #123456”.

Calendar-cycle
The day after you open, add a reminder six months later exactly.
At maturity (≈ 180 days) the principal + gross interest redeposits into the cash hub T+1.
Repeat steps 3-4 taking whichever six-month special is highest on the same list.

>>510926057 (OP)
This thread was written by an ai
>everything else is just noise

>>510926057 (OP)
Build for BBC.

What matters is convex payoff: how much you make when you’re right versus how little you lose when you’re not. Short-duration Australian nominal bonds, combined with a yield-curve steepener and selective credit overlays, give you convexity with an explicit carry cushion. Gold, silver, Bitcoin all have negative carry and embedded short-vol exposure. You pay insurance every day, but the payoff is binary rather than skewed.

The problem with “rates keep going up” is only true for fixed-rate, long-duration paper. The AUD itself drifted from ~0.78 US cents (mid-2021) to ~0.63 at June 2025, a 19 % haircut. Holding a 4 % nominal return while sitting in depreciating cash is the real risk—not the coupon on the bond. Gold in AUD is up 40 % over the same period. Bitcoin up 230 %, silver lagging only ~60 % after the April volatility. Classic bonds did not pay you to live through this. So an Australian bond strategy that is at least 10× more competitive than parking in 10-year AGS must keep AUD exposure minimal (hedge the currency). Be short duration so every 25 bp RBA hike does not savage the mark-to-market. Clip a spread that is higher than both CPI prints and USD treasury carry. Be liquid without broker margin.

>>510926057 (OP)
>Bonds
youre literally loosing money unless youre buying bbb risk or higher

>>510932535
>>510934749
>>510934857
>trained how to jump through shlomo's hoops
the goodest of goys

>>510926057 (OP)
>if you copy what richfags do
>you will be a richfag
Wrong. Richfags fly private planes, go get rich by flying a private plane.
Bonds are for 55+ year olds that want a low risk profile part of their portfolio in the final years before they retire.

>>510936646
In English doc

>>510926057 (OP)
Bonds work when you are already filthy fucking rich. If your family owned castles in Europe in the 1300s, then yes, great.

For everyone else, 1% is nothing meaningful unless we do it for generations.

>>510936914
AUD is trash compared to USD
You will be repaid in worthless money

>>510926057 (OP)
>buying something and having to keep your money locked away for decades

Yeah bullshit, I won't even buy certificates of deposit. HYSAs are like 4% rn and you can take your money out when you need it. USDC coin is 4.1%

>>510936992

When you fund a HYSA you piss into the bank's cash pool but the bank keeps track of how much piss you pissed into the pool so you can take an equal amount back out of the pool on demand, hence the actual name demand deposit account for what most people call checking and savings accounts.

After you give cash to the bank the bank’s treasury desk decides how to fund all of its assets (mortgages, Treasuries, repos, swaps, etc.).

Instead it views the pool of deposits (part of “retail funding”) as the cheapest, most stable funding source for whatever assets it decides to hold.

Among those assets may be large net positions in short-dated Treasuries or overnight reverse repos collateralized by Treasuries, because those are liquid and pledgable at the Fed for additional liquidity. These holdings help the bank generate the interest income with which it pays you the “high yield,” yet they are owned by the bank, not by you.

The bank thanks you for your cheap and stable source of funding by paying you interest.

You should consider the tax implications of holding US Treasuries if you are in the US.

Interest income from U.S. Treasuries is not subject to state (or local) income tax in any U.S. state.

THIS MATTERS IF YOU LIVE IN A HIGH TAX JURISDICTION IN THE US