Thread 511018311

It literally requires becoming an outcast from society. This is the main problem "trad Christians" have and why we probably aren't going to be seeing any revival on the horizon. If everything you do with friends or with girls is sinful (parties, premarital sex, kissing, etc) then you pretty much need to become a monk renouncing the world entirely - which is not very appealing for the vast majority of men. It's extremely isolating and lonely. You might say "oh just go to church" but the problem is 1. they are mostly old people because of our aging demographics and 2. they are CONFESSIONAL. Churches are confessional where you need to agree with every minor point of their doctrine or else going there is POINTLESS. If you say disagree with the Catholic Church on a single tiny bit of theology then why even go to church in the first place? I've never seen any trad e-Christians seriously address this problem in good faith but as I see it these are the things making a "RETVRN" impossible for young white single men. The options presented to you all suck unless you're fine with becoming a hermit or something - which if you are all the more power to you but this isn't something that can work for more than a tiny percentage of us.

>>511018311 (OP)
>hurches are confessional where you need to agree with every minor point of their doctrine or else going there is POINTLESS.

That's actually part of Christianity.

>1 Corinthians 1:10 - 10 Now I exhort YOU, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that YOU should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among YOU, but that YOU may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought

>1 Peter 3:8 - 8 Finally, all of YOU be like-minded, showing fellow feeling, having brotherly affection, tenderly compassionate, humble in mind,

>2 Corinthians 13:11 - 11 Finally, brothers, continue to rejoice, to be readjusted, to be comforted, to think in agreement, to live peaceably; and the God of love and of peace will be with YOU.

>Ephesians 4:2-6 - 2 with complete lowliness of mind and mildness, with long-suffering, putting up with one another in love, 3 earnestly endeavoring to observe the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. 4 One body there is, and one spirit, even as YOU were called in the one hope to which YOU were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all [persons], who is over all and through all and in all.

>Philippians 2:1,2 - If, then, there is any encouragement in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any sharing of spirit, if any tender affections and compassions, 2 make my joy full in that YOU are of the same mind and have the same love, being joined together in soul, holding the one thought in mind,

>Romans 16:17 - Now I exhort YOU, brothers, to keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that YOU have learned, and avoid them

The Bible doesn't endorse multiple "brands," sects, "paths in life." Only one way or the wrong way.

I don’t want to worship a Jew, personally

Is that Ramzan? Why is he reading a Bible?

>>511018311 (OP)
i was raised catholic. it's all bullshit. we're all fucked.

>>511018311 (OP)
Yeah. If society is evil and I don't want to engage in evil, what do I do? I've thought some about this. Modern hermitage is possible for a few. Some can become martyr terrorists. But most of us? I have no idea. Being expected to refuse society entirely just isn't viable or realistic. I can try to just be a hecking decent human being, but in the face of outrageous corruption and evil, what does it matter if I keep up social niceties and donate symbolic sums to (secretly for-profit) charities and (actually organized criminal) beggars?

>>511018311 (OP)
Do you really think you're so much holier than those Satanists?

>>511018838
Jesus was not a jew, lmao.
Do you even know what that word means?

>>511018311 (OP)
>It literally requires becoming an outcast from society
It's almost like that was what Jesus was teaching you to be one
>3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
>4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

>>511018311 (OP)
Even if we are reduced to 12 again, anon.

>>511018311 (OP)
It's very lonely, you have no refugee, especially among christians who don't even understand the bible or their lord.
Most days I am surrounded by people yet I am drowned by my aloneness.

Being a churchfag is kind of based but mostly pathetic for most people. You won't find any enlightenment, just some momentary high you feel from listening to Pastors who are trained to preach and hit those emotional levels for people. But that said I suppose there's worse ways to spend your Sunday mornings. You could be in a hangover haze every day.

>>511018901
I was raised Catholic and I call you a liar to your face.
12 years parochial school. Nuns with rulers. Latin. Mass twice a week. Confirmed.
You are not "raised" Catholic
You are, or you are not

>>511018770
That explains the 6 gorillion denominations

>>511018311 (OP)
Get saved, get a King James Bible, study it and ask God to give you wisdom. That's all you need. Forget about churches and denominations and set your eyes on Jesus.

>>511018311 (OP)
>It literally requires becoming an outcast from society.
Well that's dumb then. The whole point of pretending to believe in a religion is to get a bunch of friends who also pretend.

>>511019030
That doesn't really work today though, does it? All my food is grown in foreign nations and can only be obtained through huge retailers. My job is fully integrated into a million other parts of society, all interconnected and relying on each other. All the land is owned, and not just on paper, but is actively monitored and the ownership enforced. How would one come out of one's nation today?

>>511019243
>12 years parochial school. Nuns with rulers. Latin. Mass twice a week. Confirmed.
I did all of that too nerd, without the nuns. My parents divorced before I graduated high school. Vows mean nothing. Women are impossible to take seriously because they just want to bail. We are fucked. We don't have a community or nation anymore. Just hundreds of millions of hedonists.

>>511019108
12 Berserks? BASED!
We shall conquer over both land and water, with the foam and the howl and the holy fire of the Hawk-Feathers. My body and soul is ready, Lady of the Vanir!

>>511018311 (OP)
Are you implying those tard in the back are not abrahamic? How cute your retardation, OP.
But no, if they were not you would be calling them pagans instead.
Again, it's part of your own delusion that you live on, same for faggots to adherent to that crap, are just seething ex-christcucks basically on the same level as karl marx or still christcucks but with some mental problem.

>>511018311 (OP)
Religion was invented by and for autistic schizoids who can tolerate the isolation asceticism brings. Whether it’s low or high iq to believe in it is still something I am figuring out.

>>511020116
>Whether it’s low or high iq to believe in it is still something I am figuring out.
Accepting religion is accepting your worker-bee slave life that will ultimately get you nowhere.

>>511018311 (OP)
>It literally requires becoming an outcast from society
Which is about the only respectable thing about any sort of skydaddy observances.
"Society" is the lowest common denominator

>>511018981
>>511019340
>>511020116
And I'm halfway in the middle between being too autistic for normie society (I have a lot of funny horror stories from my social awkwardness/weird behavior) and yet still too sociable/thirsty for fun to abandon society. Truly the worst of both worlds... And I'm sure it's both genetics (I can see traits like this in my dad and mom) and from my super reclusive childhood.

>>511018311 (OP)
"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you."

>>511018311 (OP)
>/pol/, how do I renounce the world without giving it up?

There is a community, called the church, that has everything you need (not to be confused with The Church, Inc.)

>>511018901
This is the effect the Catholic Church has on many people.

>>511018311 (OP)
>It literally requires becoming an outcast from society.
Uhh yea. Read the Bible. Jesus himself tells you this is likely to happen
>if the world hates you know that it hated me first
>let the dead bury the dead
Early Christians were persecuted by Rome because they didn’t participate in society at all. The world is sick and run by the devil, it’s no crime to detach

>>511018311 (OP)
>worshiping a jewish religion.
>jews worship moloch
>thinking you can ever be based.

Denounce your foul demon god. Whites over semite's and their religion.

>>511018311 (OP)
remember to wash those nigger feet, cuck. And turn the other cheek for Tyrone and Jamal.

>>511019108
>>511019025
Cope.

>>511019025
>Jesus was not a jew
LMAO

>>511020116
>Religion was invented by and for autistic schizoids who can tolerate the isolation asceticism brings.
Thank God I'm one of those!
Seriously, I intend to enter a monastery after my elderly parents pass, whom I must care for.

>>511018311 (OP)
meanwhile the merchant is scheming to rape kids

>>511020762
I relate, at this point I think the answer is to just abuse drugs while ensuring you don’t starve to death and watch this clown world decay for as long as you’re able. Could be worse.

>>511019283
That's because they don't use the Bible. They use their own beliefs.

>>511019025
Please read the bible

>>511018311 (OP)
>trad Christian
There cannot be traditional Christians in this country because it would demand them to pay taxes that implicitly propagate great sins such as abortions. To embody traditional Christianity requires not only professing belief but also taking active steps to avoid complicity in moral evil. Even doable inconvenience like relocating to a Christian nation, where their ethereal soul would remain untarnished by such wickedness, seems beyond their willingness. Their refusal to make such sacrifices reveals insincerity in their faith—they must be atheists to die with such hypocrisy

I think you have entirely the wrong ideas. A lot of them all at once.
>trad Christian
You probably can’t be one very readily because the churches are not ‘trad’ and society as was prophesied has become a disgrace as the last generation behaves like no other has apart from perhaps the generation which experienced the flood.
The point in christianity though is not a fashion like becoming a goth or a rocker, the worthwhile point of Christianity is to know THE TRUTH. That is the point, to understand what is happening on this planet and why there is life. Then once that lightbulb begins to shine, well there are other things which for now I can’t mention because you will not understand any of it.
There is value in the “trad” things you are alluding to as well. Good luck finding all of that though without having to also put up with a load of rubbish, unfortunately.
Hey just thought maybe you could become a monk, lol, join a monastery and do a spot of monking if you are so keen. Otherwise, well you have a lot of not using msm & big tech and a lot of research and ABOVE ALL ELSE a lot of meditating and thought to go through on your own … or accompanied by the Holy Spirit. If you are accompanied by grace then you have done well since it is rare. Few people will ever see the kingdom of heaven, we are told, one of the main meanings of life (in the cursed post Eden Earth) being to separate the wheat from the chaff and very few of the final generation will make it. God is not the gushing made up blabber you’ve probably heard coming from spiral eyed fanatics He is terrible and we are in a bad position as humans. So you might have to do all the work on your own to get anywhere. But it’s going to be worth it if you make it, remember what olde worlde alchemists were after ‘the philosophers stone’? The reward is eternal life in a perfect world, yes ‘heaven’ for us is a real material place. It is this world after judgement day with the curse lifted.

>>511018901
>catholic
Well there's your problem anon, the catholics are running on traditions that were formed over hundreds of years of trying to appease pagan cults and politics being prioritized over doctrine.

>>511024517
>the catholics are running on traditions that were formed over hundreds of years of trying to appease pagan cults and politics being prioritized over doctrine.
...and protestants are running on a book written by child mutilating kikes.

>>511019310
Why not do it for real

>>511024684
Good thing I'm not one of those either

So
In other words there would be no difference at all for 90% of /pol

Matthew 7:13: "Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the road is easy that leads to destruction, and there are many who take it."

>>511018311 (OP)
Christianity has always required being an outcast of society because society is inherently evil.

>>511024220
>Virgin
Y'know Christianity forbids premarital sex right? And doesn't condemn virginity? I am a fakecel (Tinder) but I've always found this infuriatingly hypocritical with Christians.
>>511024204
Thank you anon.

>>511018311 (OP)
All men ought to be monks, and leave society in as far as we can. It brings great peace to the soul, to live in harmony with God instead of rebellion against Him.

>>511025101
/thread

What's so difficult to comprehend here? The choice is clear within the texts of EVERY religion: this fleeting material world of gay illusions or the based Eternity of unending perfections that mog anything a dusty material detention center has to offer.

Think about what it means to be a Muslim in the USA. Not only are your beliefs at odds with the satanic secularist culture, people burn down your mosques, shoot them up with guns, break into the homes of Muslims to murder them.

Think about what it is like for Muslim women. To even be modest and wear hijab you can be insulted with slurs, yelled at, spit on, beaten, and even killed. Why do you think we are establishing a mosque and community in a rural area?

>>511024220
I worship Freyja, not Thor. She is the Great Mother of my Godly race.

>>511025743
>Think about what it means to be a Muslim in the USA
Evil degenerate biomass our government brought over because it hates us. Fuck off.

>>511025743
>people burn down your mosques, shoot them up with guns, break into the homes of Muslims to murder them.
>To even be modest and wear hijab you can be insulted with slurs, yelled at, spit on, beaten, and even killed.
i wish any of this was true, i really do.

>>511018311 (OP)
When I speak to Christians one thing they make sure to stress is that the church isn't a place for couple to meet, but a place to praise the Lord. So because of that, young men are not able to go to church to meet a girl (not a nose ring whore covered in tattoos, there are already plenty of those out there), so the birthrate will continue to drop and Islam will take over. Whatever objection someone will bring up to this is moot. This is what's happening.

interesting note about this thread is the admission that Christianity is an investment in the promise in an afterlife.
heavy implications around the word investment too.

>>511025844
Inspiration doesn't lie.
Surely if this Freya had any genuine spiritual substance there would've been better inspired artwork.... She is an empty juvenile archetype, for empty minds, such as frat boy viking faggots who performed ape-like rape (of their own fucking women) death rituals for their captains. Yeah really cool worship/respect of the goddess. They stole ideas for all that shit from other cultures they plundered. Literally white niggers.

>>511025738
I think it's funny that every single person who pushes the idea that you need to work hard and sacrifice to obtain status and wealth is someone who will benefit disproportionately from your labor.

If someone was going to lose money from you working hard, then they wouldn't tell you to do it, right?

>>511018311 (OP)
How do people like the ones on the left even exist?
I've been praying to God since childhood.

>>511018311 (OP)
Very confused messaging from that meme
>sojaks in Satanist attire used to represent all non-golems
>golem represented as white (lol) but freely admits to being a sinner like everyone else
So which is it? Are you holier than thou (muscular chad), or are you just another sinner (Satanist jak)?

>>511026161
It's funny because everything you just described fits Christianity much better. Do you give honor unto St. Brigid?

>>511026056
That's not true, but it is a erroneous belief of most Christians. By following God, you are not investing for a payoff. You are simply aligning yourself with what is right, and through that your spirit is refined. It's like caring for a puppy because you want to be obedient vs caring for a puppy because you love it and want it to prosper.

>>511019025
Why did he get circumcised

>>511018311 (OP)
What do you mean? You are supposed to have faith in God through thick and thin. You are supposed to be a trad christian even if the romans are throwing you to the lions, let alone living in a society full of sin.

>If everything you do with friends or with girls is sinful (parties, premarital sex, kissing, etc) then you pretty much need to become a monk renouncing the world entirely
>I've never seen any trad e-Christians seriously address this problem in good faith but as I see it these are the things making a "RETVRN" impossible for young white single men.
How difficult is no sex before marriage really. How difficult is it to find christian your age to socialize with with the internet? There area lot of women out there who want a genuine christian tradhusband. You don't even need God to tell you this. Me, a mere human, can confidently say you are being kind of whiny.

Sin, degeneracy and decadence are very subtle, they change the way you think. You can actually enjoy doing chores, opening a window and getting fresh air, organizing your shit and being a positive Percival. You can enjoy signing up for christian groups and meeting people, you will find friends and later a qt christian gf tradwife material. However at the back of your head is a little voice saying "ugh, lame, you should be like the celebrities on the TV, you need to be like this, you need to do that, everything is pointless and cringe unless you live like this, you should seek only the short term dopamine coom or do whatever mass media and degenerates pressure you to do", but this voice leads you to a dead end full of shitty people who never cared about you and all your effort has zero long term significance or meaning.

You sound like a cynic and that is actually a good start. Realize most things are actually rather shit, and starting from the bottom decide which things are truly important.

>>511025743

Brother, it is not just the culture, it is the government and military. Jerusalem is in a holy war and it is expanding into a global conflict.

You may be expected to physically take up arms against the forces of Satan in a holy war for God in your lifetime. These godless people are only getting worse.

We are at a point in history where believing in God and obeying God makes you an enemy of the most powerful government in the world. Now is the time to be strong for the trials ahead.

Christians:

Do not be afraid. Be strong. There will be trials and tribulations. The zionists persecute people for the name of Jesus.

>>511020823
All very well if his dad hadn't created it.

>>511026225
Talmudic acts of self-preservation. And it's usually not even for a self that's respectable or worthy of preserving in the slightest. Hard work isn't even bad but the kind of hard work (wageslavery for example) THEY expect is pure cancer. Cancer is big business.

Nobody cares about doing what's right because there's no money or survival in that.

>>511018311 (OP)
>It literally requires becoming an outcast from society.
Ever heard about saint Anthony, the great?
He inherited a wealthy estate, but because the Bible says to give up your riches, he did so to live as a hermit in a cave. Many wanted him to teach them his ways. But he wouldn't let anyone see him. He ate only bread which people threw in his cave. Sometimes he would fast for 2 or 4 days. One day he came out and people were amazed he looked healthy. He said his great temptation was boredom and women, which he overcame by praying.

One day demons beat him to death. His followers pulled him out the cave, He was revived and demanded to go back. He challenged them to come back out, but this time a bright light scared them away. He assumed it was God and asked why he didn't help the first time, and he said I wanted to see how well you would do, and since you did well I will make you famous around the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_the_Great

And then there's this
>when a great sensual temptation came upon St. Francis of Assisi, he first “began to scourge himself severely with a cord,” and then cast himself naked into a snow pile.

>>511018311 (OP)
It's supposed to be against the world, it always has been.

>>511024220
classic
kys, memeflag.

>>511019466
Despair is a mortal sin. You should go back to church and confess your sins.
>>511018311 (OP)
Highly religious people out-breed atheists and progressive-religionists. We were dealt a heavy blow from the Enlightenment, Weimar period, degeneration of Hollywood, and the Sexual Revolution, but notice how unsustainable the ideals they espouse are. The meek here inherit the earth, and the anti-civilizational trends will die away. The pivot may already be here with the election of Donald Trump and other rightwing politicians globally. The Pope is American. The good guys always win in the end.

>>511026869
memeflags and most swedes/poles/fins/ and Germans are mostly just Indians afraid to fly their real flag

>>511026745
>He said his great temptation was boredom and women, which he overcame by praying.
That didn't work for me

>>511022530
Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in the trinity or that Jesus is God.
John 10:30 "I and the father are one."

>>511026353
And I can agree with that. I'm not a fan of Christianity in the slightest outside of the old artwork and architecture. And it was an organized mafia then as it is now, having so little to do with the Bible and Christ-like principles.

Christ was not a Christian or Catholic.

I want any Christian to show the part of the Bible where it says to attend Church every Sunday.

>>511027024
Well, you don't live in a cave.

>>511026491
Uh, well, you see... Jesus was an Israelite. People calling him a Jew and a rabbi in the Bible is just a mistranslation. Jesus was actually from central Norway.

>>511025459
Nah I'm fine with being a virgin, I just find it funny when people who make a big deal about rejecting christian morality and cite "just enjoy yourself" and suchlike fail to make good on the life that they advocate for living.

>>511018311 (OP)
>Why is it so hard to be retarded

>>511018311 (OP)
>It literally requires becoming an outcast from society.
KEK, this happened to me, and it wasn't like I had an encyclopedic knowledge of scripture or was anywhere close to a perfect person. I just asked the same questions 30 years ago and made the same observations that many men today are asking and stating.

I became comfortable in solitude, never wanted what society had, and I've largely remained there since. Jesus said that the world would hate you (those that follow) for following Him. That follows my experience.

>>511026387
there are several parts of Christianity I find morally abhorrent and misguided unfortunately although it's followers have plenty of excuses

>>511025844
Shut up you damn larper, we norse are sons of Eve the same as the rest of the naked tool using apes on this planet.

>>511018311 (OP)
I don't know go to christtok, it's where faggots cultivate their aesthetics, which is what you're trying to do.

>>511018770
>Only one way or the wrong way.
So I'm guessing you, if you are a member of a church, believe you have the correct understand of that one way is in daily practice. KEK, fuck right off. I stopped attending church in 2008, and haven't missed it a bit, and my relationship with Christ has blossomed.

>>511027066
Fair enough I guess, you're also wrong about them being snow niggers that raped their own women. Viking age women were NOT to be fucked with, ESPECIALLY by their own men. She is a bad bitch.
>>511027076
It's worse, my smoke alarm went off at 1am because I was heating my pan and the offscouring smoke set it off, even with the kitchen fan and window open.

Didn't Anthony get warned about poison by a Raven or something? It would seem to match him since he has that whole Elijah wilderness thing going on.

reminder that wotanisim is kwanzza for white-niggers (wignats)

>>511027265
I wish we were sons of Lilith, that kinky dommy-mommy. Instead we have to worship kike cum for eternity.

There is no God.

>>511026654
The Jews believe he's boiling in shit for all eternity due to his evils. Criticize Christianity if you want but do it with at least a smidge of inteligence.

>>511027457
you are gay and NEED to admit it then repent. Stop being a fagglet

>>511027455
Heaven forbid that a group of gentiles honor their ancestors, eh bud?

>>511027358
idk. I'm not the biggest saint expert.

>>511027497
Are you pished, m8?

>>511019340
Correct, it does work, because Jesus said to be IN the world, but not OF it. So what you are doing is not incompatible.

>>511018311 (OP)
I work in a factory, obviously it's a low wage place filled with low wage people. like 70% uses drugs AND alcohol, cigarettes and believe that you need to be having sex casually. I don't do any of these, some people question me why and I simply say "do you do things you aren't inclined to do?", they understand but at the same time they also don't understand why I am not like them, but at least they don't bother me because I don't bother them because of their way.

People need to stop seeking approval of third parties. Your life, your way of living.

This is a common problem in Orthodox for converts. There's expectations for priests and laity, and both fulfill a role for the preparation of the Kingdom to come.

Texts like the Ladder of Divine Ascent ARE NOT meant to be followed by the laity. Even for monks it's difficult. By saying no one can be saved without rigorous piety as the greatest monks invalidates Christ's sacrifice.

Parties and kissing are not inherently sinful. Can they lead there? Yes. Are all these things sinful? No. Speak with your priest instead of going down a purity spiral or else you'll be a new generation of Pharisee asking Jesus why he and his followers are eating with unwashed hands

>>511027175
Like what

>>511018770
If everything you do with friends or with girls is sinful (parties, premarital sex, kissing, etc)

But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
Galatians 6:14

I feel sorry for people who are addicted to these sinful things, but I appreciate the potential they have to be penitent and prostrate themselves before the Lord in their supplications. There are plenty of ways to have fun without sinning. I enjoy paintball, fishing, hiking, and studying scripture. When you truly embrace Christ as Lord it becomes easy to renounce wicked things.

>>511018311 (OP)
The effort to square the implausibility of Christian doctrine with what we now know about the cosmos and the all-too-human origins of scripture should be too much for any conscientious person to bear. But apparently it's not.

Your emperor has no fucking clothes, and the best you can manage is to trick yourselves into redefining naked until it no longer applies. Faith is really no better than that.

People who idealize loving their enemies should at least be able to tell the truth about their friends. And to themselves.

>>511027457
What the fuck man

>>511026926
Behold, 'murica. Happy now?

Why would an indian be posting in favor of Christianity here?

>>511027609
Lilith was the first woman, created from the Earth just like Adam, but she was cast out of Eden literally because she preferred riding on top during sex, so God made Eve out of a rib and invented missionary, which is the only way people are ever supposed to have sex for all time. Also, the jewish sperm must be worshiped throughout all of space and time.

Meanwhile, Lucifer and Lilith spend the rest of time have mind-blowing cosmic orgasms in every position possible.

>tfw no demonic Mesopotamian succubus GF to make blasphemous smexy time with

>>511027050
Remember that husband and wife are also likened to being one being, her her flesh and she his bone. Very far from the only example of figurative language that doesn't outright tell you it's figurative.
The people who think Christ is a different being from the father don't need to be illiterate to come to that conclusion.

>>511027797
Lilith never existed and you can fuck your wife in whatever position you want

Christians are gay, lame, cucked, and spiritually jewish. Imagine being a man and willfully choosing to be sexless and seething. That's what christians do even when their god never tells them to be celibate. God said to have sex and have children, it was the first order given, but christians don't care about their own god at all. They just care about being weak and pathetic for perceived social brownie points.

>>511018311 (OP)
>E-Christian dogma ceases to exist in the meatspace, there is no real-world application. /pol/ Christians are even more pathetic because even the other terminally online christfags reject them. In the real world all of the major churches are multi-racialist and only disagree on how modernist they want to be. "Traditional" Christianity is dead, rest in piss.

>>511027998
Sorry, which Christianity are we talking about? Surely none I've ever heard of.
I've spent my whole life surrounded by Christian families who had upwards of eight children.

>>511028066
Catholics and protestants.

>>511027950
My wife doesn't exist at the current moment, but maybe praying to Lilith will manifest a good one, one that knows her true power as a Woman. Having sex in multiple positions isn't enough, I want my wife to be the High Priestess of our Goddess so we can have fellowship together. I will settle for nothing less.

>>511027998
>christian
>sexless
we get married with some churchgirl at 20 max. You do go to church -- right anons??

>>511027477
Almost as if they play all sides, imbecile.

>>511018311 (OP)
Christians are like trannies. It’s all larp and makebelieve

>>511028167
Have fun taking hard drugs in your goon cave then, I guess.

>>511028298
stop projecting, faggot

>>511028369
>nuh uh y-you’re j-just projecting
Found the seething christ cuck lmao

>>511028241
Listen I dislike Jews as much as the next guy but you cannot possibly have your head screwed on tight and think the religion that was created by a guy who was executed for calling out Jews on their bullshit and has ever since been in constant contention with Jews for the past two thousand years, during which it successfully defended Europe from being forcefully made Islamic, is somehow a Jewish ploy to destroy Europe.

>>511028328
I quit all that, although I don't think I'm above it, I just don't prefer those things at this stage of my life. I must improve my body, mind and spirit even more for my future Wife, that perfect Goddess beyond compare.

Perhaps you should try improving your own life instead of assuming the worst in others.

>>511018311 (OP)
>It literally requires becoming an outcast from society.
Not really, you can find strong communities when going to specific churches

>>511018838
God made his only son be born in Jerusalem as a Jew so he could try and save them from their evil ways but he failed and got killed for it

>>511018901
Hermes is the way

>>511028565
>>511028238
>You might say "oh just go to church" but the problem is 1. they are mostly old people because of our aging demographics and 2. they are CONFESSIONAL. Churches are confessional where you need to agree with every minor point of their doctrine or else going there is POINTLESS.

>>511018311 (OP)
>It literally requires becoming an outcast from society
that's why it's the straight and narrow path, fatty

>>511028501
Assuming the worst in you?
Going by basic pattern recognition it seemed like you were outright claiming the worst.

>>511018311 (OP)
>lonely outcast
Men are already lonely outcasts so this is not a barrier. Something being outside of mainstream society is no barrier at all when the MAJORITY of all men have been thrown out of mainstream society.

>>511028737
Go away, Satan. Occultism attracts demons.
https://www.piercingthecosmicveil.com/

>>511028692
Only begotten son, not only son.
But the difference is a completely different conversation.

I don't recall where it's said, definitely not one of the mainstream Christian books...
The Jews were the only people evil enough to murder their own God.

>>511027050
In John 10:30, when Jesus said, "I and the Father are one," he did not mean that they he and the Father were actually "one substance", or "one God", or co-equal and co-eternal. Rather, Jesus was saying that he and the Father have a "unity of purpose".

>>511027050
The weight of scriptural evidence supports subordinationism, the Son's total submission to the Father, and God's paternal supremacy over the Son in every aspect.

Jehovah's Witnesses acknowledge the Son's high rank at God's right hand, but the Father is still greater than the Son in all things!

While the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit all participated in creation and salvation, that in itself does not confirm that the three are each co-equal or co-eternal.

God is only ever explicitly identified as "one" in the Bible, and the doctrine of the Trinity, which word literally meaning a set of three, ascribes a co-equal threeness to the being of the infinite God that is not scriptural!

>>511027567
>Parties and kissing are not inherently sinful. Can they lead there? Yes. Are all these things sinful? No.
Going to parties typically involves alcohol and drugs. And kissing typically involves making out.

>>511027050
Paul describes the Father as the one God in 1 Corinthians 8:6 where he writes:

“Yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.”

In this verse, Paul has described two persons: the Father and His Son Jesus. But did you notice that Paul wrote it in such a way that Jesus is different from the one God?

Paul used the word 'God' as the description for the Father and the word 'Lord' to identify Jesus. So Paul has clearly stated that the one God for Christians is only the Father. If Paul wanted to include Jesus in the identity of the one true God, he could have said: “Yet for us there is one God, the Father and the Son.” Rather, Paul deliberately designated the Father as God and Jesus as Lord.

Jesus is Lord in the sense that he was made Lord by another — namely, by his God, the Father — as we read in Acts 2:36:

“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

So in this verse, Christ is different and distinct from the one God. So it’s clear for Paul: the one true God is the Father alone.

>>511028866
Indeed.

>>511028894
So I mean that's the thing if you want to square this circle you need to keep it grounded in the real world and the lived experience outside of the computer. Where is the line? It seems Christians struggle immensely with this.

religious people are so strange and desperate to be persecuted or outcast.

>>511018311 (OP)
>>511026906
The problem is that our society is vastly different to the one in the Levant way back when, notably our family structures are different, and our relationship with sex is different due to technology. our families are nuclear families, not these extended clan structures and due to the pill, condoms, IUDs and abortion, our relationship with sex has fundamentally changed, in a deep and profound way. People would have marriages because sex meant children, and it was the best way to manage this deep integral force in humanity.

women are also a slave to hypergamy. A woman is a woman, and you can take her out of nature but you can take the nature out of her. It's like the waters of life flow through her and dictate her actions. its a true force of nature, like a river or a hurricane.

The old moderators of baby making got changed from marriage to mans inventions. (thank you faust) and the cat is out of the bag on this, there is no going back. our relationship with sex itself has fundamentally changed in the same way our relationship with distance has changed since the advent of the internal combustion/steam engine.

I know that it says to be in not of this world but women, though the force nature that is inherent to them become of this world. a young woman is of this world. Men can deny themselves truly like monks or can be castrated, but women cannot be castrated, and Fertile women are tied to their sexuality. The force of life reproduction is fundamentally of this world, and if god wanted it to be different, he would have made women different. This is troubling, as this isn't like greed or gluttony; it's a fundamental component to existence.

You could say that sin means to miss the mark; however, this sin is a sin of life. How can god make life and make it sinful?

I don't mean to point fingers but the church does not have the spiritual, nor intellectual weaponry to deal with the current mating crisis

>>511028464
>guy who was executed for calling out Jews on their bullshit
According to jews
>ever since been in constant contention with Jews for the past two thousand years
Christgolems always protected jews
>it successfully defended Europe from being forcefully made Islamic
Well yeah, it was their lawfully conquered land by semitic foreskin demon worship and wait a minute, who opened the gates of Grenada?

>>511028894
Then don't go to those sorts of parties. Faithful people party too, hang with them on the weekends and have a wild night of board games and ginger ale.
And if you're gonna be kissing, do it with someone worth kissing. They'll have restraint and respent, and so will you if you're not an idiot.

Seriously what's the big deal here?

>>511028979
Is English your second language? That is not what the post says.

>>511018311 (OP)
>oooh noooo! Being a Christian isn’t as easy as lying cheating and stealing!

Wow no shit, you might have to come up with some other reason for this whole lifestyle.

>>511028782
Well looks can be deceiving, that's one of the lessons that the Morrigan taught me. Perhaps your beliefs have made you more prejudice and ignorant to other modes of being, rather than looking for the good within people like God did with David.

>>511026525
fun fact, God will forgive you even if you dont believe in him! he is THAT great. just renounce your ways at the last second and you WILL get into heaven

>>511029067
>Then don't go to those sorts of parties. Faithful people party too, hang with them on the weekends and have a wild night of board games and ginger ale.
I don't know where you'd find them. And with all due respect that sounds pretty lame lol I'm in my early 20's but I almost never played board games growing up and whenever I try playing them they're usually boring and frustrating. I feel like this is one of those cases where our lives, assuming you are some oldtroon in your 30's or 40's, are so different since birth that much gets lost in communication.

>>511018770
tell that to the episcopalians

>>511018770
>That's actually part of Christianity.
You're probably right, but it's a damning part of Christianity. The Bible has no purpose but to deliver you to the godhead.

>>511028778
the churches still standing have plenty of young people. The old only churches have withered away.

>>511029154
Maybe self-ostracization is the only way if you want to be internally consistent with Christianity's demands (it's also a losing political strategy kek) but it's still a very big ask and minimizing/dismissing this is bearing false witness.

Let us pray to God that we may be free of God.

>>511029327
Okay well I'm a red state Ameriburger and I'm not some rural Dutch villager with any ancestral connection to a hyperspecific denomination so.

>>511029327
Okay well I'm a red state Ameriburger and I'm not some rural Dutch villager with any ancestral connection to a hyperspecific denomination so. But I don't think this is true over there lol.

>>511029400
4chan's being so gay tonight I can't be arsed to delete this

>>511029049
>According to jews
If the Jews had their way in this issue it would be according no nobody at all, no it's not according to Jews.
>Christgolems always protected jews
And you suppose your screenshot illustrates that point? The crusades were to drive out the existential threat that was Islam, not to force everyone to be Christian or die. The declaration was made to prevent the crusades from going off the rails, not to give Jews some special priveledge.

I'm not going to address that last point, I won't knowingly make shit up to try and win an argument when things get into a realm where I don't know as much as I should.

>>511028866
You are the only denomination that thinks this.
Maybe mormons too. But this idea is a minority.

>>511018311 (OP)
>How hard it is to be Christian chad in 2025!
The difficulty resides in the Aryan spirit being brought to extinction and the friction it creates in your beliefs.

You worship a Jewish God, spread Jewish beliefs and laws. Then wonder why it is disappearing. When questioned almost all white Christians would rather have black Christians for their neighbor than white "pagans" or atheists.

The same way a psychopathic boyfriend or girlfriend leads you away from family and friends. So to does the god of the Jews tells you to cut all ties with those of other faiths because he is the one and only.

Even now you Christians fear Islam more than your own brothers being wiped out. Even though Islam worships the same god and holds Jesus as a profit. Playing into the Jewish monotheistic mind virus that has set you apart from the very beginning.

>>511029163
Good grief you completely missed the point...
I'm calling you delusional and saying the closest you can get to whatever the fuck you're talking about is by putting your brain on funny chemicals.

>>511029253
Early 20s myself mate.

>>511029556
Well that assumption doesn't bear out the evidence of my everyday lived experience, so you're just making another cynical assumption in order to justify your bland misery. Maybe your brain needs some funnier chemicals, not drugs but the happy chemicals that your body naturally produces when you stop stressing out over trying to perfectly control a world that is fundamentally chaotic?

>>511029494
If being in the minority on an opinion bothered me I wouldn't even be a Christian. I'm after the truth and salvation.

>>511029617
Why do you think that's my problem?

>>511029653
We're having a discussion and I wanted to be sure that we were communicating clearly, also I'm a little concerned for you since your life seems to be in a state of stagnation. It's getting late though so perhaps we should just declare our peace and retire for the evening.

>>511029629
If you're really after the truth then you wont be Christian forever, it may take some time.. but eventually you will discover how you've been deceived. A friend of mine nearing 40 just made this discovery after 20 years schizophrenic research.

>>511029748
>They attack the nose
Wha... what did they mean by this...?

>>511018311 (OP)
won't you do anything for your God? You sound like the most retarded christcuck kek and that is not a very high bar

>>511029748
That's nice but unlike some people I care about doctrine more than how some people trying to work out Christianity screwed up after converting from Judiasm.

>>511018311 (OP)
The only problem with religion is that it's not true. Religion has many good effects for society, providing a shared framework for understanding the world, a feeling of community, and basic moral concepts such as the fear of punishment.
Would be nice if we could get a variant of religion where the core message and scripture is factual.

>>511027066
>>511027358
Stop talking about my great great great ... great grandmother.
Fucking weirdos.

>>511028843
>>511028843
>He thinks Jesus didn’t learn any ancient occult stuff

There’s lost years of Jesus in his 30s where he disappeared and scholars believe he travelled to different places like Egypt where he learned Hermeticism, Iran - Zoroastrianism, and Himalayas. You can sometimes see Jesus depicted using Mudras which is an Eastern thing I think. There’s evidence to suggest he was also into the occult and occult doesn’t necessarily mean evil. It can open gates which could let in evil if you don’t know what you’re doing but practicing or learning the occult doesn’t make you evil

>>511029990
You might think it's not true, but right makes might and Christianity at its peak was nothing if not mighty

>>511018311 (OP)
Remember that it is prophesied for there to be a mass falling away of Christians before the anti-Christ is revealed.

>>511018311 (OP)
> If you say disagree with the Catholic Church on a single tiny bit of theology then why even go to church in the first place
I am Roman Catholic and didn’t take the vaccine. A lot of priests didn’t either. We go to church to celebrate the Eucharist and worship the creator of the universe. It’s not an edgy lifestyle with benefits

>>511019307
>make yourself a god
Yeah good idea

protestantism is a Bible study group with politics. All of them were founded by people. Only the Roman Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ.

Cope and seethe all the people who believe they are too edgy and intelligent to submit to the Church fathers. You will learn the hard way

>>511030001
Shutup, Freyr. Go shag yer mum ya Vanir cuck lmao

>>511018838
Jews in Alexandria played a crucial role in the political, economic, cultural and religious life of Hellenistic and Roman Alexandria, with Jews comprising about 35% of the city's population during the Roman Era.

Serapis was intended to be, in Plutarch’s words, "god of all peoples in common, even as Osiris is" and the fact that a Greek (Timotheus) and an Egyptian (Manetho) agreed on the statue’s identity was taken as a sign from the god that he would assume this role. Ptolemy I built a grand temple for his worship, the Serapeum, which came to house the statue from Sinope. With Serapis at the center of religious devotion, Ptolemy I began a rigorous building program which was continued by his son and successor Ptolemy II Philadelphus (r. 285-246 BCE) who had co-ruled with him since 285 BCE. The great Library at Alexandria, begun under Ptolemy I, was completed by Ptolemy II, who also added to the Serapeum. As he was linked with the afterlife and transformation, Serapis became known as a redeemer god and savior who granted believers eternal life.

Pentateuch was compiled around 270 BCE using Greek sources found at the Great Library of Alexandria

>Emperor Hadrian, who put down the Bar Kokhba Revolt in Jerusalem in the 130s and exiled all Jews from Jerusalem, said that Serapis worship and Christianity in Alexandria were identical and practiced in syncretism, adding that Serpais had contributed to Judaism and Samaritanism as well.

>Hadrian equated Serapis worship with Christianity, went on to found his own dying-and-rising mystery cult based on the strange death of his lover Antinous while undergoing special mystery rites on the Nile, making Antinous’ statue the third most common in antiquity after Augustus and Hadrian himself.

>Antinous holding a cross and grapes looking exactly like Coptic Christian iconography from the 500s or 600s

>>511030571
The early Church linked Jesus Christ to the Sun and referred to him as the 'Sun of Righteousness' (Sol Justitiae) prophesied by Malachi.

In 350, Pope Julius 1 decreed that the birth of Jesus would be celebrated
on the same date as all of the other solstice sun gods, Dec 25.

> deity of the Sun

Serapis, Greco-Egyptian deity of the Sun first encountered at Memphis, where his cult was celebrated in association with that of the sacred Egyptian bull Apis (who was called Osorapis when deceased).

The ancient festival in Rome was known as the Saturnalia. The emperor Aurelian established an official holiday called “Sol Invicti”, meaning “unconquered sun” in honor of the sun god. It was held Dec. 24 and 25 and established Dec. 25 as the official solstice.

>>511030590
>Alexandria was a central location in the formation of early Christianity and, more specifically, Gnostic Christianity. It was the crossroads of Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and Jewish culture. Of course, Jews would often boast about how great their god was and tell stories of how he turned the Nile red with blood, cast darkness over Egypt, and killed every first born Egyptian son. Naturally, the Egyptians would react to this and equate YHWH with Set, who was their donkey-headed god of evil and darkness. The Greeks of course equated Set with Typhon, and thus they equated YHWH with Typhon. Among the early Christian sects that were growing in Alexandria, this view caught on

>>511030651
>For the Levantine (Semite) peoples, El and Kronos were identical. Who was Kronos? Kronos was the Greek name of none other than the violent and bloodthirsty Roman god Saturn. Just like El in the Middle East, Saturn-Kronos in the Mediterranean mythology was the highest titan of the pantheon, the lord of the throne of heaven, a violent usurper who had defeated his own father for supremacy and a ruthless tyrant. Identical to El in the semitic religion, Saturn-Kronos was a god of harvest and agriculture and was also considered the Father of Time just as El was known as 'Father of Years' and 'Ancient of Days' in the pre-Israelite semitic texts and in some books of the Hebrew Bible. The main symbols of Saturn-Kronos were the scythe, the cross and the hexagon.

>>511030679
>The Egyptian god Seth-Typhon was sometimes depicted with a donkey head and he has also been more explicitly associated with the Jewish god. For example, we have the following passage from Plutarch:

>"Those who say that Typhon fled from the battle on an ass for seven days, and having been saved produced sons, Hierosolymus and Judeaus, are at this point clearly dragging Jewish issues into the story." (Plutarch, De Iside et Osiride 363C-D)

>>511030708
>The first followers of Jesus were essentially all ethnically Jewish or Jewish proselytes. Jesus was Jewish, preached to the Jewish people, and called from them his first followers. According to McGrath, Jewish Christians, as faithful religious Jews, "regarded their movement as an affirmation of every aspect of contemporary Judaism, with the addition of one extra belief – that Jesus was the Messiah."

>Italy's Jews came directly from the Holy Land before the Diaspora, first arriving in Rome in the second century BC as esteemed envoys (hoping to establish business ties) and then, after Rome invaded Judaea in the first century AD, as POWs sold into slavery. These first Jews lived, like other foreigners, outside the city — across the river, in Trastevere.

>"The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and deceivers," - Marcus Tullius Cicero c. 106 BC - 43 BC

>“Meanwhile the Jews in the region of Cyrene had put a certain Andreas at their head, and were destroying both the Romans and the Greeks. They would eat the flesh of their victims, make belts for themselves of their entrails, anoint themselves with their blood and wear their skins for clothing; many they sawed in two, from the head downwards; others they gave to wild beasts, and still others they forced to fight as gladiators.” - Cassius Dio

>Romans were unable to distinguish between Jews and Christians, and because the Jews hated the Christians. Even before the Great Fire of 64, imperial officials had already established a precedent of using the Jewish minority as scapegoats for problems that arose within the capital, and had expelled Jews from the city of Rome during the reigns of both Tiberius60 (r. 14-37) and Claudius61 (r. 41-54); both expulsions were carried out as blanket punishments against all Jews for reasons connected to individual Jews.

>>511018311 (OP)
>It literally requires becoming a Jew worshipper

>>511018311 (OP)
>he thinks non sinners don't go to hell too

>>511030726
>DIONYSOS was the Olympian god of wine, vegetation, pleasure, festivity, madness and frenzy

>Hephaestus returns to Olympus riding a donkey and carrying hammer and tongs. He is led by Dionysus, who bears a thyrsos (pine-cone tipped staff) and drinking cup

>"Hephaistos refused to listen to any other of the gods save Dionysos - in him he reposed the fullest trust - and after making him drunk Dionysos brought him to heaven." - Pausanias, Guide to Greece 1.20.3

Dionysus the son is your saviour, a great shepherd promising pleasures unbound and eternal. Kronos the usurper is the universal spirit of the church while Typhon in the father of parasites. The masses channel their bestial desires and need for continuation through this malformed Dionysus. A Dionysus with the features of Apollo and Sol, treated as a Kapparot. The social cancer embodies Kronos through the church and state.The social parasites worship Typhon as YHWH. Thus the unholy trinity can be understood fully. The son is gluttony, the father is greed and the spirit is sloth. The three forces of corruption and disorder have been gathered together in opposition to the natural order, the natural hierarchy and life itself.

>>511018311 (OP)
Jesus was MK-Ultra-ed by the jews
'm sure Christ was real as there are a lot of good faithful people still taking His name. But what if, AFTER the Real Christ had come and gone from Earth, the jews created a fake one in order to project power (i.e. look "good"), hijack Christianity and rewrite history? I just saw The Passion of The Christ movie, and it seems so to me. I don't know if everything happened more or less like how shown in the movie or how Christians hear the story from various sources, but let's assume it was mostly as shown. Hear out my points:
1) After the Real Christ came and went and His word spread like wildfire, the jews decided to hijack the movement.
2) They MK-Ultra-ed a gullible carpenter into thinking he was the son of God. Most of the things the Jim Caviezel character says in the movie and what you hear about "Jesus" saying from other historical sources, sounds like words of a delusional person.
3) People say "Jews killed Christ". Think about it. If they created a fake Jesus and did kill him to orchestrate an elaborate lie, it DOES make them look powerful, it makes them look "good". Because the average Joe since then till date will think multiple times before crossing the kikes, if they can even get the Son of God killed this way.

>>511030799
4) I think Mel Gibson is another Controlled Opposition. The movie is an utter Gore Fest. Rather than inspire Christians, I think it was designed to get a rise out of them, demoralize, taunt, make fun of and hurt them. People say/think Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. A faithful follower of Jesus being a whore is ammunition for the jews to belittle Christianity, don't you think. And what does Mel Gibson do? He casts the hottest actress in existence to play the role. This movie is targeted at the older crowd, not youngsters with a throbbing libido, and boomers don't care if a luscious looking woman is there in the film. It won't make them want to watch the movie more. Monica Bellucchi being in the movie only solidifies the "Mary Magdalene was a whore" trope. If the jews faked Jesus, then they may have even ensured that Mary Magdalene was INDEED a whore, but this movie just hammers the point very strongly and very unnecessarily. Audience will see a hot actress playing the role and it is bound to subconsciously make them think "Aah yeah, Mary Magdalene was a whore".
5) Judas the jew who apparently sells Jesus' location to the bigger jes, the Temple jews (Pharisees), has a change of heart, returns his 30 pieces of silver to the Pharisee jews. Mel Gibson portrays this character very intricately and cunningly, as if to make the audience think "aah what a nice jew", as if there are any nice jews.
6) It is repeated multiple times in the movie that Jesus was The King of The Jews. Hammering this just makes the jews look larger than life and more powerful, exactly as hollyjews would intend themselves to appear.
7) A high budget movie like this cannot be made without the jews, even if there is no jew name in the producers list. They definitely ghost produced this propaganda piece.
8) The timing of the movie in 2004 is just after 9/11 when the world was Awakening to the jew menace.

>>511030822
9) Jew propaganda movies can simply be reverse-Cramer-ed to extrapolate what the real Truth must be. Real Christ and his real teaching must have been edited. Just like the kikes put things in The Simpsons (The cheating couple viral thing going on recently, the 9/11 plane hitting the towers hint, etc.) and then actually do world events to match them, same way, the Bible was rewritten or "produced" to follow a plan the kikes may have planned.
10) Mel Gibson goes out of his way to make jews look good. Who helps Jesus carry the cross? A garden variety IDF -faggot looking jew, that's who.
11) I think Mel Gibson is an elaborate deceit. In 2006, he allegedly goes haywire, arrested for drunk driving and speaks against "Da Joos". Obviously, by now the actual hollyjews behind the movie will want Mel Gibson and the movie to have more credibility, by making Mel Gibson look like a good Christian who dares speak against the jews. The audience will then proceed to attach more "authenticity" to the movie. I bet there must be pics of Mel Gibson cozying up to the jews. All these actors, directors, producers, all the damn movies, not just Hollywood ones, but ALL of them, Netflix, Disney, Prime, Bollywood, they all are controlled by the kikes and make them look good. All of these assholes are in cahoots with the jews. Hollywood is one of their primary weapons for goyim disinfo and control, along with News Media, Internet Media (both Mainstream and "Alternative") and Banking.
12) It would appear that 600 years after doing the Jesus heist, the kikes may have done the Mohammed heist too, producing a fake pedo Mohammed in order to hijack the teachings of the actual, earlier, good Mohammed. The kikes are evil enough to have done this too.

>>511030799
Technically, he was MK Ultra'd by the Egyptians. The jews MK Ultra us everyday of our fucking lives.

>>511030839
13) I think God is real and Christ, the prophet, and Mohammed, the prophet, are real too. But the devil doesn't exist. The movie hammers in the existence of the devil. This plays along nicely into the kikes' playbooks of introducing the return of the messiah and/or the antichrist very well. People haven't stooped talking about this for 2000 years and are likely to never stop.
14) The King Herod guy is shown as a faggot/tranny. This plays into the jews' ploy to make people think - hey if you give into LGBTQ degeneracy, then you'll be rich and powerful too, like this this this that and this other character (real or fictional).
15) I was expecting a scene in the movie where Jesus upturns the moneylender Pharisee/jew coin tables in the temple, but obviously it is skipped. Maybe showing the audience this red-pill was too much for the hollyjews.

All in all, after watching the movie, an average audience normie sheeple is more likely to think "more positive" and "more allegiance" and "more fear" towards the jews, rather than be "more positive", enlightened and inspired about Christianity.

tl;dr: Christ was real, but after He left, the jews MK-ultra-ed a carpenter to fake the whole thing.

>>511030822
Don't you have a better street to shit on?

>>511018981
>Yeah. If society is evil and I don't want to engage in evil, what do I do? I've thought some about this. Modern hermitage is possible for a few. Some can become martyr terrorists. But most of us? I have no idea.

Do you understand self interest and the laws of nature? Do you understand the origin of good and evil? Do you know why normies exist? Do you know what social parasites are?

https://ourchan DOT org/pol/thread/16434.html

i will pray to whoever can deliver me a white virgin wife who loves me & who wants and is capable of having kids
simple as
praying to yoohoowoohoo all through my childhood & teen years turned up squat so im open to suggestions

>>511030937
the jew kid in this movie was named Shlomo

>>511030983
literally

>>511018311 (OP)
>If everything you do with friends or with girls is sinful (parties, premarital sex, kissing, etc) then you pretty much need to become a monk renouncing the world entirely - which is not very appealing for the vast majority of men. It's extremely isolating and lonely.
It takes most men until they are in their 30s to realize this but you can spend time with your friends without the express purpose being to drink alcohol.
>they are mostly old people because of our aging demographics
So? Aren't you supposed to attend mass to attend mass, not hang out with people your age?
>Churches are confessional where you need to agree with every minor point of their doctrine or else going there is POINTLESS. If you say disagree with the Catholic Church on a single tiny bit of theology then why even go to church in the first place?
Why the fuck would you want to be religious if you don't like the idea of bowing down to extreme, unquestionable authorities and strictly adhering to their rules? That is the entire point that trads keep harping about, muh objective morality, muh rigid social structures, muh hierarchy muhfucka. Just stick with secular philosophy if you don't like it.

>>511018311 (OP)
(trad Christian) shortcut for this is jewish slave by old way.

>>511029748
The talmud is after the bible, though.

>>511031404
Talmud was rewritten original comes from Egyptian Hemertics tho it was also corrected because most of it was taken as a part from what people tell between each other not the actual teachings.

>>511031089
You dont have to meet friends only to party, and you dont have to
>extreme, unquestionable authorities and strictly adhering
to go to church.
There is no sincheck and conformitycheck when you enter the building anon, you can try it.

>>511027567
>Texts like the Ladder of Divine Ascent ARE NOT meant to be followed by the laity.

They are meant to be followed by the laity to a possible degree for your circumstances.

>>511030937
Literally any fertility Goddess, preferably one that has some kind of ancestral link to you.

only a few specific groups have the time or inclination to spam anti-christianity so frequently. one of these groups (pajeets) is much more numerous and less qualified than the others

everything that was known as jews or trannies 2+ years ago is now massively outsourced to pajeets

>>511018311 (OP)
>worshipping a yid
>in current year
ngmi

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>you are 8/8 gr8 if all eight of your great-grandparents were born in the country indicated by your flag.
join today and receive your free decoder ring!

even more anons can be in the 4/4 b4 club:
>you are 4/4 b4 if all four of your grandparents were born in the country indicated by your flag.
still pretty good. that's a start. your kids might be 8/8 if you play your genes right.

>a-ok! so then what about the 2/2 too club? what do we get if both parents were born here?
you get to keep earning your citizenship. one or more of your grandparents were immigrants. that might have been novel and cool in moderation in the 20th century, but now it just means kalergi replacement. your family should be audited for merit and kept on homeland security probation until the immigrant generation passes.

>why are grandparents the cutoff?
because most people grow up with their grandparents as elder archetypes, the living representation of their ancestry and belonging in a territory. if your grandparents came from somewhere else, you share a definitive disconnect with them as your living roots trail far away with divided memories, sensibilities and loyalties.
if you're only concerned with relatives born in your present country, then you stand to gain nothing by dismantling its foundational culture, and there's no question as to where you belong. only immigrants and their orchestrators might benefit from new societal compromises in the name of multiculturalism and DEI.

when in doubt, try this
CLINICAL TEST QUESTION
>are you descended from south asian subcontinental ancestry?
any answer longer than "no" means yes
not answering means yes
lying means yes

>>511018311 (OP)
People aren't interested in group psychosis which gives people like the pope, and kiddy diddling priests unlimited power because of a few fairy tales.

Reminder Christianity gave Europe to the Jews on a silver platter by insisting they are in charge of banking usury as instructed by the jewgod in the bible

We should thank Israel for revealing that 95% of modern-day western Christianity is a total fraud. All it took was nearly a year and a half of genocide to reveal most Christian pastors to be agents of Satan who reject the very teachings of Christ.

Most modern day western Christian churches are not teaching what the real Jesus taught. They are antichrist.

That's all there is in this country, Satan's Pastors! Useless spiritual whores!

Same with all the free speech warriors who ended up only wanting to unban the stuff they agree with while deporting anyone who criticized Israel.

>>511030421
No thanks, I don't feel like following the traditions of a church built on political dealings and appeasing pagan cults just because it's got seniority. The age just means it's got more random crap in it.

>>511030233
I’m talking about your theology and your doctrine retard like the ACTUAL theology not about wearing masks

>>511031089
If you don’t believe in 0.1% of a sect’s doctrine then there is no point in going to church whatsoever. It’s all or nothing. Actively believing in something you think is untrue is only possible with some kind of nihilism.

>>511032534
Not an anti-Christian thread more like a neutral thread if anything
>>511032596
Some of my grandparents are from Europe otherwise they’re from the Rust Belt area
>>511032644
Nope

>>511018311 (OP)
>It literally requires becoming an outcast from society.
It was always that way. Read the Gospels.

>>511019307
>King James Bible
Literally the most kiked of all Bibles, and also the source of American shabbos-goy degeneracy.

>>511019795
Jews worship Remphan, aka Saturn. They are not "abrahamic", whatever the fuck that means.

Just keep praying and trust in your prayers.
The Church doesn’t condone monks and nuns spending every day of their lives praying for hours for no reason.

>>511033809
I’ve read the Bible and Church Fathers many times and yeah that seems to be the case hence why there’s the thread. You have to see how that’s not really the most appealing option for young men. Christianity in the past also used to provide community while if you want to be religiously coherent you basically have to go on your own.

>>511034079
Isn’t there a young adults’ group in your area?

>>511033593
If you specifically want to be a part of a system that supposed to have unquestionable rules and extreme hierarchical authority then you should also obey whenever the rules or authorities tell you something you don't like, yes. It's not a buffet of rules where you get to pick what you like.

>>511032144
>ancestral link
irish
any you'd recommend?

>>511034199
I don’t specifically “want” shit. I’m addressing something. What are you arguing?

>>511034180
Yeah they’re not great and again I talked about Christianity’s sects

>>511034400
Then step up. Assume a role of leadership.
What is it you would like to discuss about sects.

They're traitors.. working for a foreign hostile group against their own kin.

>>511034490
How do you do this if you were to take seriously this message of rejecting the world and becoming a social outcast? And I already talked about churches and why there doesn’t seem to be any point in going there, especially if you disagree with any of their doctrine, and you’re trying to live out Christianity.

>>511018311 (OP)
>It literally requires becoming an outcast from society
You say it like this is a bad thing. Truth is, most people want to be outcasts from society, they are just afraid to try it.
> 1. they are mostly old people because of our aging demographics
Untrue for traditional parishes. Average age is like 30 something.
> 2. they are CONFESSIONAL. Churches are confessional where you need to agree with every minor point of their doctrine or else going there is POINTLESS
rue, but doctrine is not all-encompassing and leaves a lot for you to chose.
>>511018770
true

>>511018981
That's why it is good idea to have a similarly minded group. AKA tradparish

>>511019243
God bless you bruda
>>511024204
BASED

what do you think about this?

>>511034870
This niche “advice” only works for people who are 100.0% infallibly convinced in the Roman Church and its dogma. And who live in environments identical to your own.

Christians were considered antisocial in ancient times because they wouldn't participate in pagan festivals and other social events, what else is new

>>511034299
>What are you arguing?
That religion, specifically a very hierarchical one might not be for you if you don't like the idea of not being able to disagree with the doctrine. I'll elaborate a little: proponents of religion like to say that it is a strength of religion that you have these hierarchies and unquestionable written word, because it is the written word of God and it is the spoken word of His representatives on earth - that in turn is supposed to give it more authority that secular law and morality, which religious proponents like to simply hand wave away as arbitrary rules not grounded in anything with any real authority. However, if you want the good then you also get the bad, i.e if the word of Christ's vicar on earth carries supreme authority when he says something you agree with then it should also carry supreme authority when he says something you disagree with. I'm just tired of intellectually lazy people who treat religion as a window shopping activity where they just want to find something that aligns with their political beliefs so they have something to point to when they get into arguments.

>>511018311 (OP)
Crusades. You’re forgetting the core part of being a Christian is exterminating shitskins.

>>511035479
Can you summarize this in a non-text wall format? This thread was made to talk about the disparity between Christianity and everything with the modern lived experience. I almost never see people seriously addressing this in good faith, it seems like the majority sentiment is “yeah just spend the rest of your life as a hermit pretty much it sucks but if you believe do it,” which I can respect but there is a lot to unpack there. This isn’t even talking about Christianity’s sects and how their rigid mandatory doctrines further promote isolation here if you disagree with even a single bit of theology. I don’t come from a Catholic background although I was interested in it for awhile. Feel like there’s some speaking over each other.

>>511035539
Modern Christianity is unrecognizable from medieval crusaders, I don’t mean killing browns no I mean everything with the religion

>>511034670
Well, if you’re Protestant, you can believe anything you like (within the constraints of common sense), but if you belong to an Apostolic Church, you have to submit your beliefs to its authority which you would naturally do if you believe your Church holds the fullness of the truth even if you don’t agree with it. I draw the example of obedience to popes you don’t agree with if you’re Catholic to David respecting Saul.

>>511035911
This isn’t me being like “LOOK CHRISTIANITY SUCKS ITS SO LAME” but making a factual unemotional historical statement

>>511035971
even if you don’t agree with it in some areas*

you guys know the virgin birth and the resurrection and all that shit was made up right?

go to a church with good people in it, denomination is a meme

>>511029414
90%+ at my church is blonde and blue eyed and dutch reformed, despite being urban

>>511018311 (OP)
first you need to be ready to answer some questions
such as why would your beloved yahweh give a newborn child debilitating diseases
or why he would give you dementia even if you follow every single of his judeoish commandments your whole life

>>511035971
So Catholicism has the same cost of you literally needing to become an outcast from society, but also needing to truly believe in your heart of hearts all of their doctrines and if you don’t then there is zero point whatsoever in even going to their churches or partaking in any rituals. And you don’t get the benefits of community like people in the past had. I’m not trying to be mean or strawman you but this is the logical conclusion no?

>>511036077
I think it’s funny how some people immediately approach me with hostility as a Christian and others immediately approach me with hostility as someone who hates Christianity.

>>511035847
1. I think I got hung up on one part of your OP, specifically this one:
>Churches are confessional where you need to agree with every minor point of their doctrine or else going there is POINTLESS. If you say disagree with the Catholic Church on a single tiny bit of theology then why even go to church in the first place?
With my comment on that being that if you don't like the idea of conformity and submitting to church authority (doctrine) then maybe (that type of) religion isn't for you, because a large point of the religion is to have faith and submit to authority.

2.The other stuff isn't really directed at you or anything you said, but more of a general complaint about the average tradcath/religious posters we have on /his/, a board that I frequent. They often argue that religion is superior because (among other things) it provides objective morality and religious authorities carry REAL authority, not fake arbitrary authority like lawmakers and elected officials. My frustration with this comes in large part because I think they are full of shit. For example if the Pope says something they agree with then they'll point to him as the ultimate authority in his role as vicar of Christ on earth, but if he says something that they disagree with (like "we should be nice to homos") then they throw a fucking fit and ask when we can dethrone this antichrist masquerading as the Pope.
My overall point with that is that if you want to be religious and be able to point to church doctrine and the word of God whenever it suits you then you also need to take all the bad shit that comes with it. You're not allowed to pick and choose, because if you are then you are not truly religious, you are merely using religion as a vehicle for your political beliefs.

I'm almost at the post limit so if you have any other questions or topics you wanted to talk about (like the disparity with the modern lived experience you mentioned) then can you restate them?

>>511036343
Yeah I agree with the second point, I truly think most people just don’t think about the implications of their beliefs that seriously and like to stick to very simple comfortable things like dunking on easy targets or watching podcasts. I could never this mindset is a bit alien to me (especially with having to do these mental gymnastics with the pope - why’d you want that? lol).

>>511018311 (OP)
>Trad_West
Holy cringe. These christcucks bitches blocked me on Instagram 5 minutes after i told the truth about their imaginary kike-sandnigger god in a comment lmao. These faggots are SOFT af, 100 times more than the "wokists" they hate.

>Look mom i portrayed myself as a "chad" in my drawing and i portrayed my detractors as mean lolololo
This is one of the reasons why I hate you so much, you are absolutely pathetic. Your retarded straw men are always so cringe it's absolutely insane.

You are dumb incels losers childish kids and you prove it in every one of your "memes" or comments.

Your bible is not holy it's toilet paper. Jesus christ is the lord of cucks and an imaginary whore. Your god is also imaginary and your sins are imaginary blackmail invented by jews. Cope.

>>511036614
Not reading the rest but I used that image exactly because it was funny and stupid.

>>511036192
I'd consider it a lucky man that worships in a church he agrees with every last doctrine and nuance, or an easily persuaded one. You could become your own preacher and preach only what you believe and see if you can gain a following by giving the Bible verses to defend your doctrines. But for us non-preachers, find one where you could have 90+% agreement and seek fellowship. Agreement on the core principles should be common, agreeable between the furthest of Christianity's sects (ie Christ Son of God died for the remission of our sins), but the middle ground is where we all differ and must just give grace to them and go our own way. And that last 10% welli haven't found it either, but I'll put it to charity for the sake of the fellowshipping at a nearby church as the Bible commands.

>>511035847
And I appreciate this sentiment because it’s earnest, still pretty brutal though lol. Stuff like “oh be reborn as a niche European nationality belonging to a hyperspecific church that my family goes to living in the EU” it’s like okay cool.

>>511036587
>Yeah I agree with the second point, I truly think most people just don’t think about the implications of their beliefs that seriously
I think it's because their beliefs aren't genuine. This category of people really do seem like people who 'convert' because a lot of religious morals happen to overlap with their political beliefs, and so it becomes a lot easier to justify them because they can just point to religion instead of having to make rational, secular arguments for their beliefs.

>>511036692
Oh ok.

Another funny thing is that this pic portrays the christcuck as a "poor man persecuted by others" even though we live in a totally christian society totally controlled by christians/kikes lol.

>>511018311 (OP)
>You're either a slave to the Logos
>Or you're a slave to sin

And the wages of sin is always death and decay. Of yourself, of those around you, of society in general.

In a world built upon the sand, you are called to build your house upon the Rock.

Wide and easy is the road that leads to destruction, but narrow and difficult is the way that leads to Life.

The teachings of Christ are for the rectification of the whole being. They implore total integrity and fidelity to truth, above all else; and regardless of how untrue and how incoherent the world around you implores you to become.

This is a spiritual battle for your soul, anon. Not to be taken lightly. Many church goers do not follow Christ in any real way, they are nominal Christians who understand little, practice little and are contented with that.

>The Desert Fathers were not in the desert by accident

>>511034009
Abrahamic is a term made up so lefties could lump Islam in with Jews and Christians and try to make us out to all be basically the same and tolerate each other.
It's like some guy saying he was best friend's with your grandpa. Normally this would be a connection for friendship to build through. Unfortunately the guy is a piece of shit and makes up things about your family, claiming these as reasons why you should love him while also taking them as excuses for why he should hate you.

>>511034269
Are you really buying into his shit? Even if the figures from these mythologies do exist they're little more than faries. They haven't done anything of note in over a thousand years and let their people all become Christian.

>>511035986
What, if you care to give examples, is the nature of the differences you're talking about?

>>511036006
Unlike some people, we actually take this shit seriously.

>>511037650
and mr. 'can't drive out chariots of iron' whose currently letting europe become secular/muslim, who has let my prayers go unanswered, is somehow different?

>>511030070
Of course. If barely anyone believes you can feel like a special boy, and its just like da inbuild prophecy made for these occasions.

>>511036192
Not at all. How else would all the rad trads still (rightfully) claim to be part of the Catholic Church? They’re not having existential crises about it.
Anyway, I must sleep now. Good night and God bless.

>>511018311 (OP)
be a real christian and eat the body of christ. the real christians know that jesus was a shroom

>>511024517
All Christianity is running on 2000 years of being a slave to kikes.

>>511034924
Lacks ontological ground, or any logically derivable foundation for Truth.

These are idealistic preferences - everyone has preferences - to impose your set of preferences onto other requires Force, not any appeal to Truth.

Science presupposes coherence, intelligible meaning, and truth - without being brave enough to deduce a metaphysical ground for any of them. Its an incoherent worldview due to its ontological truncation.

The King of Secular Satanism is not only without clothes, but also headless.

The ancient Greeks did excellent work in identifying the Logos, Platonism was a great deductive inquiry into identifying the ontological ground through the Logos. The spearhead however is Christianity - where the Logos became flesh and gave doctrinal teaching of universal timeless truth - through the human frame.

Secular humanists lack this grounding and are therefore fanciful preferences functioning parasitically ignorant to the structure underlying being itself.

Christ is Lord, and King of Kings.
>All intelligible structure adheres to the Logos or it collapses under its own internal incoherence

>maybe the ignorance is intentional
>maybe that's what makes it Satanic

>>511035335
You're just weak willed. amerimutt incarnate

Renaissance Man

https://youtu.be/stqB9ymmfs4

>>511027889
"One flesh" isn't figurative language.
It's 100 percent literal and references telegony and DNA transfer.

>>511028692
Christ wasn't born in Jerusalem.

>>511021230


OP you must accept that the prime directive of life is not:

"HAVEFUN>FEELGOOD>HAVEFUN>FEEL...>"

>>511032580
Jesus Christ was a Palestinian.

>>511018311 (OP)
Christkikes are apex degenerate faggots. They worship defeat and their god is a foreskin eating demon. They literally invent excuses and copes to feel morally superior for not resisting jewish domination. They say it's ok that their children are born as slaves because it all gets magically sorted out in an unverified afterlife that was described to them in books written by the same jews who own them. There is absolutely nothing moral about them whatsoever. Again, their god is in fact a foreskin eating demon. They are pedophiles who hate their own pre Christian ancestors more than even jews do.

>>511018311 (OP)
>It literally requires becoming an outcast from society.
If observant Jews can do it, you can manage it too. Imagine what a pain in the ass it is to not be able to eat in restaurants 95% of the time. It helps to have a community, though; if you're doing it by yourself it's probably not sustainable.

>>511018311 (OP)

When Rome became too decadent, ancient Christians fled to the countryside and invented monasticism. See "the Benedict Option".

>>511042935

Imagine looking at a crucifix and thinking, "I can't be a Christian because this doesn't make me feel big and strong like the vikings in my video games."

>>511018311 (OP)
Why did they draw this guy like a Chechen? Christians can’t even draw themselves as real White people, kek
>NOOOOOO GOY DON’T TRY TO ADVANCE YOUR MATERIAL POSITIONS ON EARTH! JUST FOLLOW THE MAGIC JEW BOOK AMD EVERYTHING WILL BE BETTER ONCE YOU’RE DEAD