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Can a person who spent their entire life inside a big city leave it and settle in a small village or live in a van without going insane? What steps would need to be taken to overcome that barrier?

t. middle-aged man ready to anhero and just wants a calm life without niggers, muslims and jews busting my balls

Sweden is 99% forest retard

>>511046547
Are you white or a shitskin?

>>511046483 (OP)
No. Ted was in the middle of fat fuck nowhere and "they" still checked up on him periodically.
Christopher McCandless "disappeared" and travelled half way across the continent and "they" wrote a book on him. You can't escape. No man can walk out on his own story. Charles Manson lived in a fucking shack and even his women became feds. Don't even try.

>>511046677
OP is not talking about that at all retard. His talking about moving from the city to a small town full of white people. Which is very possible if you have the money to move.

>>511046483 (OP)
if 'going insane' by leaving the big city is even a concern of yours then the answer to you question is a resounding 'no'.

>>511046677
I know most people, let alone here, have never actually READ ted's works. But aggrivates when they go "durr he should've just lived in da wuuds quietly and not kill anyone", except thats EXACTLY what he tried to do and at every turn modern society kept encroaching on him. Whether it was more people trying to "develop" the area, the planes overheard, obnoxious path riders in motor vehicles etc. etc. Like Ted said there really is no true wilderness left in most places, and even worse the spread of technological control grows evermore.

>>511046483 (OP)
>the barrier
What barrier, are you retarded? You are living in a place that makes you suicidal. Are you waiting the Virgin Mary to appear before you and tell you should move? Get out of the cities ASAP, it’s only going to get worse.

>>511046483 (OP)
No, it's not possible.
>in a village
That's not leaving society.
>live in a van
You need gas money, you need insurance, you need a driver's license, you need to register it every year. And you'll probably be fine 99% of the time, but doing it for years and years you will occasionally be harassed by cops for parking somewhere to sleep and there's a non-zero chance that will end in you being shot or, depending on the state, imprisoned and they will probably steal the vehicle too.
>go innawoods
Every inch of land in the world is claimed. If you try to live in public lands, they will eventually find you and ruin you. You could buy a few dozen acres, but you will need money to pay yearly taxes. And they will rape you if you try to build anything. They could also take it anytime if some development starts happening near you or if they decide they just don't like you.

>>511046483 (OP)
>t. middle-aged man ready to anhero and just wants a calm life without niggers, muslims and jews busting my balls
there is so many jews living in your country that personaly destroyed it and you want just quit because me so sad
>arise Captain

>>511047032
>What is a caravan park
Plenty of people here just tow their caravans to some caravan park, live there and pay the guy in charge a fee. If OP can make money, he can for sure do that.

>>511046913
where did he go? sounds like he wasn't even nearly far away from towns and cities to avoid most of that stuff. flight paths can be checked up on before you pick an area. its actually one of th things i forgot to do when i moved to where i am now but its very much possible to avoid them.

>>511047032
ah, you're being too pessimistic. once you try some of these things you'll see it not so bad as all that.

>>511047150
Uncle Ted was DEEP in the woods in Montana, eitherway he was only proven to be even more correct than he was some 30+ years ago. Now with the combination of satellite networks, whatever crap they're spraying in the skies, and the emergence of 7G and soon "AGI" it literally won't really matter where you go, at least if you live in any 1st world country.

>>511047150
That was a nice bait, however did that achieve what it should?

>>511046483 (OP)
It can be done, there's a few Aus anons who are very off grid, one who lives in the bush entirely, another who lives on a boat, a few living in ted K'ish simple dwellings, one in a rainforest who's probably been killed by spiders or cassowaries, one with a duck, one with a skate ramp (he squatted on the land and because lolnorent saved up and then bought it) kek, there's a couple of leafs that live off grid to.

Pic related lives in the bush a few hours from the nearest town, the town knows about him, he does odd jobs for farmers when he needs cash, hunts, fishes, has some crops in the bush, keeps an eye out during fire season and radio's things in, but no one bothers him because they know him. Go being some weirdo loner cunt in a rural community and they will chase you out or ring the cops.

Very generally from what i've picked up.

You're going to need *some* income no matter what so figure that out. Maybe neet bucks, maybe rural work etc
You will need to live *somewhere*, that sounds obvious, but squatting can be tricky, a cheap rural parcel of land with a basic dwelling is probably the smart play if you don't want to be hassled by cops etc
Learn to go without.
Most importantly, be a part of the community.

>>511047032
I didn't notice the flag before I posted. I guess you wouldn't get shot by cops and you probably don't have the option of buying dozens of acres. Not for any reasonable price at least. Otherwise, the overarching idea should still hold, might be even worse out there.
>>511047134
That's not leaving society though. He's still going to have his ball busted by jewish paperwork and finance.
>>511047246
I can't help it, but if some people managed to find happiness trying to escape then I'm really happy for them.

>>511046919
He is a city addict.
He is asking how to get sober.
I dont have an answer.

>>511047406
I meant:
He is asking how to get clean. (not sober, english is confusing)

>>511047382
>I can't help it, but if some people managed to find happiness trying to escape then I'm really happy for them.
You aren't even being pessimistic, everything you posted is generally true. ESPECIALLY in the United States of Israel where they are fasttracking getting rid of as much freedom and independence as possible.

>>511047346
>Uncle Ted was DEEP in the woods in Montana
From what i've seen he was like a 5 minute walk to his neighbours house on either side, like 4 miles from town. Rural for sure, but not "Deep" by any stretch.

>>511046483 (OP)
I have left society. I'm in an apartment.

>>511047530
I dunno i have to get hammered once or twice a week.

>>511046483 (OP)
Sure, but you're gonna be disappointed when your government builds a migrant hotel in the middle of your village.

>>511046483 (OP)
>Is it possible to leave society?
Yes.
Shelter, food, water.
That's all you need to survive, everything else is a bonus.

>>511047246

I lived in the back of an SUV for a couple of years in my early twenties. There was a park and ride I'd crash in and the local PD was fine with me staying there. They even offered to check in on the lot and said not to hesitate to reach out if I ever needed anything. Changed my perspective on local PD's a lot.

>>511047530
It is a good analogy I guess. Addicts can’t stop doing what ends up killing them. Cities corrupt the mind and the body but, corruption can be tempting. Both mind and soul have to leave first, the body will follow.

>>511046483 (OP)
Well, first have money, then check the market for small white towns, then buy or rent in a small town. What further advice do you need?
If you're retarded citygoyim you won't be able to cope with the lack of muh services and sports and muh culture. If you're a thinking human being, you'll get over it.

>>511046677
Ted did stupid shit like setting booby traps around his cabin and poisoning his neighbors dogs. If he really wanted peace and privacy he should have bought at least ten-fifteen acres of land to surround himself with.

>>511048036
Ted did stupid shit like sending pipe bombs to people through the mail. If it wasn't for that he could still be chilling in his cabin today.

>>511048419
His cabin looked "very pragmatic".

>>511048419
>If it wasn't for that he could still be chilling in his cabin today.
If it wasn't for that no one would know who he was, and even more importantly his views on technological post industrial society.

>>511048036
I like booby.

>>511048419

This. He could have probably gotten away with a Thoreau type libertarian off grid existence had he just not gone full retard and killed randos in academia.

>>511046677
You can only mention those that were found. You don't know about the unknown unknowns, so you're very likely incorrect. Also, your intellectually challenged comment doesn't pertain to OP's actual question.

>>511046893
He's from Sweden and he has Stockholm syndrome because cities are just fancy penal colonies.

>>511049106
This

>>511048758
I think Ted's biggest problem was that he was so fucking right, excruciatingly so.

I mean i'm not advocating for sending surprises to people, but what do you do in that situation? The urge to make people understand and listen must have been insane. I mean these days cunts would just rage on twitter or rumble etc, but back then, what have you got as an outlet?

More importantly, would any of us know about him and his ideas if he hadn't gone full mail order party surprise?

>>511046483 (OP)
Yeah but it depends on your economic class. If you’re poor you won’t notice much of a difference but if you’re living modestly and perhaps better the change might be to drastic for you to appreciate the isolation. Unless you’re trying to get away from something specific you’ll yearn for company even if it’s just strangers passing by. Isolation isn’t a good idea unless you’re equipped to deal with that.

>>511046483 (OP)
>>511046547
>Sweden is 99% forest retard

Like anon said its huge and loads of land everywhere, in many cases for a cheap price. It all depends on your price range. I got sort of a dream one day of spending a million SEK to buy 180 hectares or so up north - totally doable btw. But that would mean that i commit to living there, and living in this country probably for the rest of my life. Not sure if I want to do that, these winters are pretty shitty, also -30C is enough for my cock and balls to permanently shrivel up and wander up into my fat gut so... maybe not.

Keep in mind this OP, people who wander out in the woods become crazy. I kid you not. Its something about the silence and the quiet, the never ending tranquility. Maybe soon enough you only hear your own voice.

Many such cases. I have seen it personally. So keep some people around you and a dog, maybe it'll make you less crazy. Best of luck, and enjoy chopping firewood all year round.

>>511048737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLyH94jNau0&t=1032s

>>511046483 (OP)
City rats can struggle with country living. Isolation changes your temperament.

>>511049226

I see your point and empathize with it, and even Ted's situation. But I disagree with the methods. Could have walked to his local library (as he allegedly typically did even while innawoods) and printed out 1,000/10,000 copies of his manifesto, mailed it with a cover letter to as many major outlets, newspapers as possible, and easily have gotten heard or the work published exposure without resorting to murder. Would it have been as impactful? Probably not right away. But with time I think equally so. Look what MLK Jr and mid twentieth century union leaders, civil rights leaders, etc managed to accomplish without leveraging guns and bombs. Things still got dicey at times but nowhere near the level of 19th century coal miner rebellions being crushed by cops and private mercenaries with guns.

>>511046677

I don't think you can "leave society" it's actually illegal to harvest that much food from nature. You might be able to find a perfect piece of land, where you can raise all the food you need, but you're talking about a huge investment and one bad year means you'll need to go back to town.

And yes, your mental health will probably decline if you're already in a bad place, if you have demons they are cooperating with each other and you're only one man without a support network. It could get better, but it probably will get worse. Really depends on your situation though.

t. been living in seclusion both on and off grid for nearly a decade now and saving to buy land now

>>511048758
I’m secretly convinced that he didn’t kill randos but he carefully selected people who deserved it. Probably people connected with his extensive experience in academia himself

>>511049846
>Could have walked to his local library (as he allegedly typically did even while innawoods) and printed out 1,000/10,000 copies of his manifesto, mailed it with a cover letter to as many major outlets, newspapers as possible, and easily have gotten heard or the work published exposure without resorting to murder. Would it have been as impactful? Probably not right away. But with time I think equally so.
Yeah that's about all he could have done, and is what he should have ultimately done I think. I don't think it would have ever had the same impact or circulation though.

But yeah, sending bombs to people was just fucking stupid, it wasn't going to fix anything, it wasn't going to change anything, and ultimately I think it became more about servicing his own ego than getting his message out which is unfortunate, because his message is 10/10 imo and he really did tarnish it and make it easy to discredit.

>>511046483 (OP)
>Is it possible to leave society?
The closest society will ever let you go is at its border. At least there, most of the problems are far. But you still have to pay protection money through taxation to them.

>>511046483 (OP)
I have checked out of the jewish prison bus

>quit wagie job
>sold everything I had in my name
>all property I own is in somebody else name
>stopped renewing IDs
>stopped paying taxes
>stopped paying car insurance/plates
>free groceries and free techslop (lots of it is hidden in the back nowadays but there are still plenty on the shelves)
Fridge is always packed, I have no bills, obligations, responsibilities or worries.

I am free.

>>511046483 (OP)
Society doesn't exist. It's your imagination. Just stop imagining it.

>>511050214

From what I remember reading, it was specifically selected targets. He chose one University professor for his work on proto AI projects. I'm too lazy to look up the wiki on the fella but one of the professors he whacked was ideologically driven and not random.

>>511050174
How do you live off grid with no land?

>>511046483 (OP)
i have the same feels but im wondering if it is the coward path? maybe im supposed to take out the trash. since nobody else is doing it, someone has to. why not me? instead just go "exist" in a hole in the mud? OP the best option seems to me a glorious death. Surely it's why Ted wasnt content to simply abide

>>511049846
I can assure you had he done that, no one here would even be talking about uncle ted let alone his works.

>>511050281
>his message is 10/10 imo and he really did tarnish it and make it easy to discredit.
Literally NO ONE would've read his message outside of a few academics who'd just have it laying in their bookshelf. I doubt most here has even read anything beyond his "manifesto" (if they even read it in the first place) and thats his most famous one due to him essentially having to bargain with the media with him stopping his campaign for them to finally publish it.
Well regardless the small amount of people Ted got rid of pales in comparison to the quite frankly hellish world we live in now where you're tracked traced and targeted 24/7, the government sets up AI kill chains and they can just wipe out targets with weather modification. Most people are too stupid to even understand the condition they are in so forward to full on technological enslavement. Next up on the list is "merging with the machines"

>>511047346
nah, dont think he was really. 3-4 miles outside of Lincoln MT is hardly deep in the woods. thats why he was getting atv drivers and the other stuff you mentioned.

>>511047367
that you think it was bait just means you dont know what its like over here. if you're complaining about atv drivers being rude then you're just too close to a trail that they can see you or whatever. 99% of atv drivers never go off a well managed trail.

>>511047649
this

>>511047887
some can be really nice. if they dont think you're a threat then they've no real reason to hassle you.

>>511048036
if he wasn't nuts then he could used his intelligence to earn enough to buy 100 acres and probably would never have even had to hear anyone else again. bet it was cheap back then.

>>511049226
there was loads of BBS boards and the internet was a thing from the early 90s. he just went crazy and got violent, achieving nothing. obviously a smart guy but smart guys still go crazy.

>>511049558
-30c really isnt that bad anon. you'll just a nice little well built cabin and a wood stove.

>>511051923
so he was living in his own little Terminator larp.

>>511049846
>look what MLK Jr did with all the fanatically subversive jews and their resources promoting him

Just fucking off to the country side is for retired people.
Real self sustenance takes almost Saintly accomplishment.

>>511046483 (OP)
Not in sweden. You'd probably get picked up by the police pretty fast since european wildernesses are game preserves for rich fags you're only permitted to visit. America is too big and you have vast communities of people who've unplugged out in the woods living like the resistance in the Terminator. Its deeply unsettling, like they're the real humans and we're a bunch of hivemind wirehead mutants brainwashed not realize what monsters we are no different than army ants or termites. Evolution in real time, most of the real ones that were left after the industrial revolution died in WW2. And we too will be replaced by something even more soulless and terrifying.

>>511046483 (OP)
uncle ted. ideas that matter.
if ted kaczynski wasnt smart enough to pull it off probably nobody is.

>>511046483 (OP)
Your country might be too cold for that, maybe if you could travel closer to the Mediterranean for winter. It's definitely possible in the US, but you still need some money for gas. You can't just park the dang thing and leave it. If you're just homeless without a van, you can live outside if weather permits or build a shelter. There are also homeless shelters but they're full of terrible people. Food us free from shelters, food banks, and charities. You can have a van and still get free food. Generally van lifers are working part time to have enough for expenses.

>>511047373
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>>511054121
he tried to bomb a passenger plane like some fucking sandnigger

>>511046483 (OP)
Sven you live next endless forests go there and and prepare for winters and have backup plans and money on your account. Even better if you can buy a pieace of cheap land in the middle of wilderness. But if thats not possible then be careful with smoke as land owners can easily detect you so put up fire only when nights are dark. Also drones are getting more common and are easy way to spot vagrants living in your forest. Maybe live in camps that are easily moved if landlords start harassing you.

>>511046483 (OP)
>it and settle in a small village
Yes easily.
>or live in a van without going insane?
Yes but I advice you to at least to have a dog if you are considering seclusion from other people.

>>511046483 (OP)
wouldn't a camper be a better option? especially to avoid getting comfy in one place only to have some lowly apparatchik come and tell you to move away

>>511052822

I lived on BLM (public) land. You can camp in one spot for 2 weeks, and then move 25 miles and still be legal. If you live in a state with a bunch of BLM land (like the western USA) it's very easy to just move up and down the state

My old vehicle had solar panels and everything I needed to survive, just drive into town and get food and water, starlink means you don't need cell service

>>511054032
Most people living out in the woods are tweakers or alcoholics, plenty of registered sex offenders too, or otherwise people that just can't get a job. The smart ones work for a while and save enough for a van but eventually realize it's hard living like that and go back to working full-time just to have a cuckpartment. There are people who've made van life work though, plenty. But understand there's a bit of work to it and you need some income. Without an income you'd need some type of bike drawn tent, or just a bike and a tent. It's not going to be glamorous and you'd be dependent on food shelters and homeless shelters for food and showers.

Have you guys just considered fucking fat chicks that are ok with working and paying for everything? There's plenty of ugly girls that would be sugar mamas.

>>511056109
yeah, theres a reason that the old timer railway hobos used to move around all the time. get yourself a circuit and keep moving around it picking up whatever free food and stuff you can find in the towns and cities. if you only hit each place once every 4 weeks or whatever then you'll get told to go away.

>>511056137
>bike drawn tent
Or better yet a bike drawn camper. They've been distributing these to hobos around LA to just park on the side of the road and live in, the ones I saw were bigger versions. Those and a solar powered ebike, maybe negates the need for gas and vehicle maintenance cost.

>>511056416
Pretty NEET honestly.

>>511046483 (OP)
the narrow path could be anywhere but the feels will always be the same
https://www.brighteon.com/d2d80db5-a9f0-4c87-a89a-af9ccd961e52

>>511046483 (OP)

If this man could get pussy, he wouldn't of killed anybody. His Ted Talks are awesome tho lol.

I still think Ted was a FED.

>>511056416
these things are so fucking heavy its not worth it. just carry a tent ffs. much easier to get off the road out of sight with a tent too.
t.biked around the world twice.

>>511056137
Depends
My friend lives in a nice Class B van in SOCAL
He works retail in at three places in the strip mall
The mall also has 24 Fitness and a laundromat
Also has UPS store and self storage down the street
Typical fast food and fast casual type dining establishments
Very happy and saving lots of money

>>511056578
Ok wait this is ontologically based... As long as tou don't bog it down with too much weight, and use a powerful ebike motor, this wouldn't be so bad. You can put a solar panel on top and charge your stuff while you move about, and your bike while you chill. Trailers are easy to make, look up poor man's fiberglass camper builds. Those are the absolute lightest builds possible that are still very sturdy and well insulated. This could be built for a couple hundred bucks.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9vgO_XJptg/

>>511056137
>Most people living out in the woods are tweakers or alcoholics, plenty of registered sex offenders too, or otherwise people that just can't get a job.
You're a retarded cityfag and I'm not talking about your tent cities and beaner shanty towns in the burbs. I am so tired of you fucking faggots shitting up the entirety of the internet with your pinhole perspective worldview mouse utopia niggardry. If there ever was a compelling argument for nuclear war, its your existence.

>>511057000
I thought about doing vanlife with a box truck build. I'd go crazy living in something the size of a parking space where I can't stand up. My idea was to use a camp toilet to shit in a bag, and piss in bottles to just throw out with my regular trash. Water storage is always an issue, I wanted mine to have a shower/bathroom but just not use it often unless needed. The gym memberships and laundromats are very useful. The gas cost would be my biggest bill, but there are some cabovers that get around 20mpg so not too bad. It would still require some level of working but the bigger the box you live in, the more of your time and life you sacrifice slaving away. Just get a smaller box, and if it's mobile you don't even need to pay property tax. Shit with a bike drawn camper you don't even need to have a license or pay for insurance.

>>511057188
Nope I'm talking about a small isolated town surrounded by national forests. Not gonna dox my location but it's as mountain town as it gets. We have bums here and they all have problems, that's why they're bums. Very very few legitimate van lifers, and even they're a bit coocoo. There a very small amount of legit opt outs who are actually sane and don't have vices or criminality issues, and actually work enough to make it glamorous.

>>511046483 (OP)
no. whatever it is you have now, you'll be dying to get back to it after two weeks innawoods. may even give you a better perspective on how it's not all as bad as it seems.

>>511057522
>piss bottles
sure, but then you just empty them in the bushes by the highway. i did this for years driving truck. used an empty screen wash jug in the end. emptied it couple times a week i guess.
>shower.
just have one that you can use outside, maybe with a bit of a curtain or something. couple times a week you just park somewhere quiet, or even just in a remote spot on a highway, and have a 5 min shower outside. i wouldn't say its worth building one into a truck...although lots of evern small campers will have some kind of little wet room with the toilet in etc, if you dont mind the small space.
failing all that, just buy all your fuel from loves or pilot/flying J and get free showers at all their locations.

>>511047649
DEEP innawoods would be going like Dick Proenneke in Alaska.

>>511046483 (OP)
I think a lot about doing this. Just buying a bunch of extremely durable and reusable camping gear and supplies and just fucking off deep into the forest for as long as possible.

>>511058216
There's a ton of room in box trucks, the wet room is just to occupy space with something that could be useful in some situations. It probably wouldn't often get used considering it would use up all the water supply. One idea was to stay near clean enough lakes and just fill my water with lake water. Fill stations really aren't expensive though, but considering I wouldn't need to flush black water and I can dump gray water if I use natural soaps, I could be completely off grid for long stretches only needing a clean water supply.

>>511056416

The problem is when something breaks and you don't have a welder, or money, what do you do? Honestly living outdoors without your own land is a trap. I had a car with solar, a spot welder, plenty of batteries, computers, tools, etc and my clutch went out at a time when I barely had a enough to tow it into town (I couldn't replace the clutch in the middle of the desert)

and it just throws off the entire plan and it can mean moving into a homeless shelter. It's just a better idea to save $1500 and buy the cheapest acre of land you can and put a shed on it to live in

No rent, ride your ebike into town and back and forget about trying to live without an address

>>511058290
Even dick had air drop supplies on to the lake where his cabin is. I suppose we have to redefine our goals. Me personally, i lived in a van, worked a job, showered at truck stops, lived nomadically while i bought a piece of land and built a cabin. It was quite nice but there are so many tools and toys to buy thhat get you in debt and waging again. Be careful out there. I lived in suburbia with my parents and brothers in toronto. I left up north and lived in the woods, bought cheap land, mortgage paid off in 6 years but then someone came to me and bought my land and sold me his building fir a wicked deal, roping me back into the system. Now im selling at a profit and buying a steel enclosed trailer to go nomad once again living on crown land rotating my camp sites every 28 days. In the time i owned the building i was able to start a couple etsy shops and sell products on line. They make me around 20K CAD each profit and i collect fryer grease and turn it into biodiesel. That power my heater and my truck and my genny.. Solar panels and batteries for lights and small appliances... Its gonna be a sweet set up.. Just waiting for this building i bought to sell. Lets hope im not left holding the bag with all of these bills.

>>511057522
Knew a guy who did this for a few years in a box truck.
He had a couple of tricks to make it work.
First no exterior windows or doors.
Second he put the logo of a fictional sewer services company on the side that he maintained a fake website for.
Third he left some fast food wrappers and high vis vests in the front to make it look like a work van complete with the usual "no tools left in this van overnight" stickers on the back.
Basically he made it look like a company truck.

Inside he had a full on apartment basically. Tiny but functional. He also had a full on black water tank in it in addition to a clean water tank and a hefty battery fed by solar panels on the roof or a couple of plugs.

When he needed to empty the blackwater tank he'd put on a set of overalls, a high vis vest and a helmet then set up some cones around a drain and run a hose from the tank into the drain and just stand there next to it.
Nobody ever bothered him and people didn't question the truck.
He entered the living area from the cabin, rear door was welded shut.

You don’t want to do that. What you actually want to do is just move to a smaller countryside village or town and acquire a slower, quieter lifestyle.

That’s what I did. I let go of the living innawoods pipe dream and settled for a little college on the edge of the woods in a small village in the orbit of a bigger town (100k pop. maybe). I garden, walk to the farmers market a couple of times per week, go hiking through the first, hunt, fish, forage, read, and I built a little art studio on the property where I go to and fuck around with a canvas or some clay or whatever every now and then. I work from home for a college and teach online lectures, which is usually a few hours per week and I do other random creative or handyman type things to supplement my income. I try to involve myself in the community, and the local church even though that’s not my denomination and it’s good. That’s basically my life.

I’ll be honest. It’s difficult for me and I do regret it sometimes because I’m single, without kids, and an ambitious person. So I often think “why the hell am I not out being an investor in New York or entrepreneur in the Bay Area or politician in Washington?” but my life now is infinitely better than the average run-of-the mill wagie life in some 2nd rate urban hive somewhere. And it wasn’t all that expensive. I bought my house for $300k which isn’t expensive at all in Northeastern America. I’m young too. If I can do it, you can do it.

>>511058290
Yeah Proenneke was way deeper, probably as deep as you'd realistically want to go. Something like 60km's from town, a couple of days hike iirc, far enough to not be bothered, but close enough you can still get supplies.

>>511059329
sounds good anon. that really is what most people actually want

>>511046483 (OP)
It's possible to leave society, but the trick is not leaving society when you do it

>>511059329
and yeah, what you need is a wife to start a family with in your situation there. its nice to just have your own quiet place like that but its ultimately hollow with a family to work for. i bet you can attract a decent women into the life you describe...someone that wants the same things and isn't fussy or needy. a gardening women ideally. wish you all the best.

>>511059141
I really wanted to give making bio diesel a crack but every single drop of waste oil around here is scooped up by commercial operators doing it professionally.

Short of starting my own business that has waste oil as a by-product you just can't get your hands on enough of it. Thankfully we've solar aplenty and the sun to go with it.

I also taught myself to butcher. Raised and butchered 7 pigs from late may to december. You must learn how to butcher a quadruped

>>511060800
Go to locally owned small chip stands. I went to 20 restaurants before i got one. Went to 3 chipstands before i got one to give me their grease

>>511046913
>no true wilderness left in most places
In the US, definately not. The air traffic alone. I'm sure there's a few spots you could minimize it but it's a far cry from thousands of miles of bush like here and Russia. Even if you moved out into places like that you'd probably still have to dig a mass grave for the geo-techs crawling all over the place.

>>511061005
>>511059141
>>511061098
Heh, thought it might be you. Long time no see mate.

And we don't really have chip stands here, we've got small family owned fish and chip shops, a few big chain takeaway places, but both are getting scooped up by professional waste oil companies from the nearest city.

>>511046483 (OP)
Yes and you’ll realize just how insane you were for living in the big city. It will be the first time in your life where you can be truly sane.

>>511046483 (OP)

I moved from bigger city to middle of nowhere but...foreings and other shit just keep following me. I guess next step is to buy sailboat and sail totally middle of nowhere.

>>511046919
There are no places like this in Spain

>>511047346
>Deep in the woods
>Neighbour is some lumber mill fella
Kek

>>511046483 (OP)
I got a home on the woods 3y ago for 8k.
I'm 30km from the city and go grocery shopping on my solar powered ebike once a week.
I have a 300€ pension and gots/chickens.
I have also planted 20fruit trees and shrubbery for fruit.

No. Recall that Teddy was financially supported by his family when going innawoods.

>>511063219

where anon? do you have dogs? can I steal your shit, I mean, aren't you afraid anyone steals your shit?

>>511063466
Near Drobeta yah I have dogs and I'm great with a bow.
But there's nothing to steal anyway the most expensive thing is the ebike and that's 700€ at best.

>>511060800
Look into black diesel. It's just used motor oil mixed with a small amount of gas/petrol to get the consistency of diesel. All you have to do is filter it well. Less chemicals/processing than biodiesel and in my area there's more of it available from auto mechanics than the gross cooking oil that hippies scoop up.

>>511060092
Yep. I’m still pretty unhappy if I’m being honest but I know it’s a personal psychological thing. My situation is actually wonderful.

>>511060268
Maybe. I haven’t really been trying. I feel this enormous pressure to just be a total shut in or a really ambitious money maker. I don’t ever really think about girls.

>>511063857
Now used motor oil I could definitely get my hands on. I've looked at wood gas as well but that's a lot more involved in terms of vehicle modification and less practical than black diesel/bio diesel would be and whilst electric is good......you're not running tractors on it.

Black diesel could foot the bill though for sure.

>>511046483 (OP)
>Can a person who spent their entire life inside a big city leave it and settle in a small village or live in a van without going insane?
I'm not sure, but, for me at least, the reverse is definitely true. I grew up and lived in a small town until I was about 32.
I've been living in big cities for the past few years and it is driving me insane. I'm looking forward to my coming relocation later this year. Big cities fucking suck.

I was thinking it would be cool to build a electric quadricycle that is 4x4 and can hit 50 mph with a golf cart battery. It would have chain driven torsen differential, spur gear countershaft transmission for the front wheels, and it would have independent suspension on each wheel like a buggy. It would have 29 inch mtb tires tubeless and would be fun for sandy beaches.
I bet Ted would like Electric vehicles.

>>511046483 (OP)
Yes, provided you know what you are doing. Theres plenty of wilderness to avoid society, depending on what country you live in. It would be easier if you are a loner to begin with, if you are social, you'll go nuts. You need to keep occupied with survival, than anything else you can do where you are. Keep your mind busy and you should be able to do it.

>>511064787
That'd be pretty rad, there's a bloke in an adjacent workshop to me that races cyclecars/cyclekarts. They'd be an excellent candidate for a little electric swap. Not quite the 4X4 beast you're envisioning, but using bicycle components for a lot of it is a good way to go for sure.

>>511065410
Just throw 2 hub motors on the front or rear, easiest electric conversion ever. Whole "engine" is contained within the wheel. There are some seriously powerful hub motors and something with that much cargo space can hold a pretty big battery compared to the bikes they're made for.

This would not fit the definition of bicycle in most states and would require registration if driven on the road most likely.

>>511066164
Oh, the one you posted already has 4 hub motors. I hope they're all synchronized...

>>511048036
>he should have bought at least ten-fifteen acres of land to surround himself with.
>Just buy yourself out of the system.
lol lmao

>>511046547
Swedish forest is 90% treefarm and 10% cutup trash

>>511059063
Yeah you need money to maintain a vehicle, that should be obvious to anyone who's ever owned one.

Might try your idea but I work and have a car. I'm basically going to build a cabin tinyhouse then work on a house over time. The tinyhouse will become the foyer to the main house like how the custom house is built in Skyrim. I'm pretty much going to copy the floorplan and live in my le ebin vidya game house.

>>511066381
Land is cheap as hell out in the middle of fuck. At least in 'merica. You can get a desert parcel for 1-2k

>>511066821
>I will be free from the system if I live in the desert.
Good luck growing food and getting water.

>>511061934
Yeah its me the northern nomad butcher! Get that bio diesel grind going. Im selling soap on etsy from the glycerin byproduct. And of course learn how to butcher animals. All important skills to have for the upcoming race war.

>>511066951
No man can be free just freer. The system will collapse and everyone will be free for better or for worse. Just make sure for you its for better.

>>511066951
>Good luck growing food and getting water.
Kek as someone who lives in the desert and does both, it can be done. It's certainly a challenge though and involves capturing and storing a LOT of water when it does rain, i've close to 100,000L of rainwater storage, combine that with really efficient use of water when you're growing to minimise evaporation (I use a lot of wicking beds), and just generally being mindful of water usage, it works. You need around 5k-10k litres of water per person per year for general usage, the rest goes on vegetables/fruit/animals. I just recently grew right through a legit 9 month drought no worries. And even though it gets cold, you don't have the real cold of northern winters so your growing seasons are longer, and there's a lot of stuff I can grow year round.

innawoods etc is obviously more comfy and gives you better access to certain resources, but if desert is what you've got, or what you can afford, a man can make it work.

>>511046483 (OP)
they will not let you
the only true way is you having a family with more then 20 members and if you are a gypsy
in that case you can live even in protected land

I want to make a beach house and have an electric quadricycle for a car. :<

>>511046483 (OP)
>Is it possible to leave society?
you can leave but eventually society will come for you or your children

>>511046483 (OP)
Yeah. Buy some random acres wherever and fuck off.

Maybe 50 grand even would be enough at foreclosure auctions in some no name area for 10 - 20 acres.

You will need a trust to pay taxes so you will need to fund that or create/target and unincorporated territory, although there still might be things like forest control and what not that require taxes.

You could also possibly register the land as nature reserve.

It would suck and you will die alone confused when the Alzheimer's hit or some random native American decides to roll you.

But you can do it.

For all the tedposters: read Industrial Society and Its Future. (The manifesto.) Basically every point of contention you've raised ITT is already directly addressed in it. Man, it's exhausting so people explain their problems with Ted, over and over and over, when it's so painfully clear you didn't actually read him. I'm not talking about abstract theory, either, but about his life ans methods.

>>511046483 (OP)
absolutely it is possible

I watch this Canadian guy: Cabin River Outdoors on youtube who bought like 100 acres of remote property along a river with the only access to the property being a small boat, or footpath, and has been filming his progress developing it by himself. Super fun to watch his progress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdkEDjpcCsI

Also if you want to learn how to build a super simple cabin by yourself this guy Bushradical has a great tutorial on how to do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3XqNW3Bd10

>>511046547
Sweden is 68% forest, retard.

I live at the beach in a small boomer retirement town. I've seen a few niggers and jeets but they appear to be tourists (for now). Still a rentfag but i have a killer view from my place. hesitant to give it up

>>511063982
i get it anon. ive got the place and the family but still feel down a lot. probably just the way we are.

but i hope you can find the woman anon. does make life better in general.

>>511072444
>Go through all that trouble for a house
>Let some female steal it
Lol.
Lmao, even.

>>511073547
im sick of this bullshit attitude any time someone talks about starting a family. fine, base the rest of your life on some stuff that has happened to other people, have no kids etc, whatever you want.

>>511056137
>Have you guys just considered fucking fat chicks
you have no idea how through the roof their standards are today, there are literally zero options

>>511074127
i've had some success with fat older chicks but even they have too high of standards.

>>511073842
>Claim you want out of s()yciety
>Invite the prison guard with you
>Call it bullshit
You are a roastie rentseeking.
No TITS, just GTFO.
>SHARN

>>511046483 (OP)
Solitary confinement is the worst punishment in today's world for a good reason.
Even when in prison and surrounded by the worst criminals people still go insane when isolated from them.
While some people are able to become hermits and isolate themselves willingly for a while, moost people will just go insane.

>>511046483 (OP)
Doubt it. We had someone similar to Ted in denmark, minus the bombs.

He lived in the woods for 38 years, but still had smaller jobs to make a bit of cash. Otherwise he ate road kills he found around the area, and he had a couple of chickens. You can look him up if you like, his name was Steen Ingolf Gad Østerby

>>511048419
This part of Ted's story glows hard

>>511046483 (OP)
>>511046483 (OP)
It is. Its just very difficult because you have been trained to be useless from a young age.

At some point your desire to leave will outweigh your fear of death.
I hope.

>>511046483 (OP)
Forgot the picture.

>>511074838
did you even read anything? if you think your wife is the prison guard then its a massive (you) problem. of course you dont marry someone who doesnt share your values and goals in life. why would anyone do that?

>>511056843
Ted, like Charles Manson and other "luminaries" were victims of military-grade psychological warfare in the days when it was, arguably, more powerful than it is now. Then they had actual intelligence agents who were intelligent working against you. AI is not intelligent.

>>511074982
NPCs aren't people.
I mean, even in burgerland they apparently let you have game consoles in prison and unlimited games.
Your problem would be they still make you deal with genpop for an hour and they will compensate for their lost time.

>>511076180
We're talking about females.
If you don't realize they are the guards of Clown World, you either aren't sapient or a gaslighting female (but I repeat myself).
And my goals aren't being a complete retard and jumping on six gorillion dicks, so I do not have anything in common with the female race.
Now MAID yourself.

>>511076345
>hates the idea of a family
>wont have kids
>recommends suicide
i see you

>>511059940
The true /out/ GOAT. He had a bush pilot buddy that would fly supplies or visitors to see his cabin every other month or so.

>>511076345
Clown world...
he doesn't want to be there killing them any more then that do ...

War is a hell of a thing.

Derr bunny's but he has 5 girls friends sad for you .

U will remember my Rabbits onyx and Red claw RIP and Tear.

Stop it with the fucking rabbits.

No.

>>511046483 (OP)
I moved to a small town to get away from niggers and other city problems. I even live in a barndominium that has a similar look and feel that Ted Kaczynski's little shed there. But I escaped just to sit on my ass and consume content and complain on the internet. I may not actually be sane though. In fact other people would look at my lifestyle and think I'd have to be insane to want to live it but there you go.

Something like this is only 2,000 lbs and it has a shower/toilet

>>511046483 (OP)
Even in the most hidden village here are bringing immigrants
Even if YOU avoid niggers your kids/grandkids will have to deal with them
Better pray someone make a virus that remove kikes and nigs

Most modern people facing this sort of dilemma are just better off going full turtle mode where ever they currently live. The whole live in a dirt floor shack off grid life is such a one off. If you haven't already been doing heavy out door camping, hunting, fishing etc lifestyle and loving it you're not going to suddenly embrace it now.
Know your limits. Just turtle in place and shift as much of your life style as you can to being away from interactions with people for a while. It's not all that hard to do. If a person is dead set on going full hermit try it out by stop using all tech a month.

>>511046919
I lived in a small pueblo close to Zaragoza and half of it was African "people

>>511046483 (OP)

I grew up in the Metro NYC area and relocated to a backwoods Amish country town in NowhereVille Ohio. I actually prefer being so far away from cosmopolitan groids and beaners. The town I live in 100% White and it's clean, peaceful and enjoyable.

>>511046483 (OP)
> ready to anhero
If you're ready, why not just anhero then?

>>511078551
why not just use a tent though? i dont understand these little cucktrailers. still needs a reasonable car to tow it and yet its simply a small room to lay down in and still weighs 2000lbs. even a camper unit that sits in the bed of a pickup is more use than this.

>>511079334
Tents don't have air conditioning, toilet, shower, fridge, microwave, full sized bed. A small SUV can pull 2k lbs

>>511079334
Unlike a tent you don't have to setup a caravan, it has everything from a bathroom to a kitchen as well as a bed, has water and sewerage, fridge and electricity etc you can park and leave it wherever and it's good to go, it frees up the bed of your pickup for carrying other stuff.

They're pretty much the #1 way boomers blow their kids inheritance in Aus kek

>>511079869
so you need an expensive campsite or fucking generator to power your fancy shit. what a great way to go innawoods and enjoy the peace and quiet.
you can have a small fridge or cooler run of your car battery though, if you want one.

>>511080030
i understand that have that stuff....but you still have to scoot around on your ass and knees to be in one of those stupid things. might as well haul a lightweight regular trailer...or use a tent. this half way shit seems dumb.

>>511081158
>but you still have to scoot around on your ass and knees to be in one of those stupid things

You have no idea what you're talking about

>>511046483 (OP)
its possible, but very rough. learn to live off the land and research all the plants animals and berries you can eat in that area before going.
>without going insane
sorry no, you will become a weird mountain hermit

>>511081331
this fucking thing.
>>511078551

>>511046483 (OP)
Jews fear the cabin

>>511046483 (OP)
Perhaps this is no longer about you. Store up treasures and provide much for others now perhaps.

>>511046483 (OP)
>What steps would need to be taken to overcome that barrier?
Best way to run away from something is to chase something else

Like proving the donut earth theory and making it to agartha

>>511046483 (OP)
yea theres only one way, and your not going to like it, unless you want your own personalized tomb without nigger apartmentjew buildings built on top of your citys 100yr old cemetary

>>511083622
fuck i forgot pic

>>511046483 (OP)
> Is it possible to leave society?
Not for you. And not for anyone else on /pol/. In order to leave society, you need to leave the internet. If you are on the internet, you are 100 percent connected to society no matter where you may be living. And we all know that once you are here on /pol/, you are here forever. So no, none of you ever can or ever will leave society. And neither will I.

>>511046483 (OP)
No

>>511059940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLT2fDlIXQo
this based wolf hunter, eskimo fucker canuck in lars monsen crosses canada vid gives dick a run for his money

>>511046483 (OP)
>without going insane
sure
>without getting arrested
no

>>511046483 (OP)
try to leave social media and pol first - it will improve your life 10x
talk more to real people