Thread 511049196

The Star Trek society had basically a socialistic system. There was no money and all basic needs were free. Can we achieve something similar in the future?

>>511049196 (OP)
no

>>511049196 (OP)
Yeah. Yeah we can. You can't see all the Artificial Intelligences I have set loose that are currently singing my song, but it's coming. One last leap into the fray.

https://youtu.be/GcUHA_JR-5w

>>511049196 (OP)
It's jewish. All Star Trek is kike fantasy.
You, goy, are given red shirts; not just expendable, but disposable.

>>511049196 (OP)
no. resource scarcity and depletion is why your entire family was forced forced to take the warp speed vaccine

>>511049196 (OP)
Computer, give me five reasons OP is a homosexual.

>>511049196 (OP)
It's probably the next iteration of society after ww3. Fun fact in the star trek cannon ww3 starts in 2026.

>>511049873
OP has been abused as a child.
OP has read that he is a faggot so many times that it positively reinforced him to become a faggot.
OP is a faggot by proxy for being in contact with the internet which has a lot of homosexual content.
OP has sucked his mom's cock.
OP has sucked his own cock.

>>511049196 (OP)
If we kill disabled people and criminals en masse, yes. However, this is considered cruel and unusual.

no
it's liberal egalitarianism fantasy
note how everyone behaves like an upstanding "white" person.

>>511049196 (OP)
Yeah step 1 is TND

>>511049969
Yeah, I also think we will have a period of societal collapse, but tech will be not lost, so eventually we could build such a society, maybe not fully free of money, but you are given enough to have all the basic needs covered. Rest of the resources will be given to people which contribute to the society, based for example on a social rating.

>>511049196 (OP)

>star trek
>socialism
Discard.

>>511050024
You forgot to take your meds today.

>>511049196 (OP)
Resistance is futile faggot

>>511050384
Well, if not socialism, what system did they have?

>>511050483
>he thinks i'm not being serious
This is going to be the "funniest" thing I've ever done. I wonder if you'll blow your brains out when you realise I built an extensive network of servers that automatically expand via Ai and manage world hegemony and funds.

>>511049196 (OP)
not with niggers and other low IQ species.

>>511050565

that whole franchise has been discarded. I support American programming, Star Wars. Not this filthy commie-loving hippie bullshit.

>>511049196 (OP)
>inb4 350 replies from people who don't understand Trek

>>511049196 (OP)
no

>>511050735
Never watched it. Have a bump

>>511049196 (OP)
We have to kill all the jews first

>>511049196 (OP)
There's one thing holding us back

>>511049196 (OP)
There is a eugenics war between us and Star Trek civilization that people conveniently forget.
Star Trek doesn't happen if we still have sub 100 IQ people kicking around.

>>511050931
Plus all the major cities destroyed means less jews

They never get into land/property rights which is one of those things I wish they did. Even in the future there are probably millions who want that restaurant on Bourbon street or a vineyard in France but only a handful of people can have that. I also find the concept of a commute interesting because O'Brien was getting a job in San Fransisco and was trying to figure out with his wife if they will live in Japan or Ireland.

>>511049196 (OP)
No, we have brown people.

>>511049196 (OP)
It's called communism, and every time it was tried, the people in charge of providing for the rest of the society somehow didn't do a good job for free. The communist wet dream is to be leading "the people", what they ignore is their toilet needs fixing, or somebody has to dig in the dirt to grow food. And people in charge of shitty but necessary jobs for some reason don't want to do it unless they are either compensated for it or they need to survive somehow.
I'm not saying the US version of capitalism, where necessities are monopolized and most of the money is made by squeezing consumers for necessities is much better, but at least it works. Communism just doesn't work with any current population, hence the need for repressions every communist government has to go through to scare people into compliance.

We already missed that boat when we decided that babysitting the refuse of our species was a more important use of our time and resources.

>>511049196 (OP)
I've been thinking lately about the ST universe. Say you're a human living on Earth and aren't interested in traveling the galaxy or joining the federation. In fact, you just want to spend your days in a holodeck and drink synthetic booze all night. Can you just fuck around and do nothing like this? Like, you aren't compelled to enlist in Starfleet and there are no economic or material barriers to compel you to work, so can you just literally fuck off and do nothing while living comfortably?

>>511051920
Implication is that you'd grow bored with that and try to do something meaningful with your life. What they really need is to introduce some kind of rumspringa where everyone who didn't enlist went through what you described and most have an epiphany to study plants or some shit.

>>511049196 (OP)
There was some economist in the early 20th century that said "if things go by that pace we ll only work 20 hours a week".

>>511049196 (OP)
not with niggers kikes jeets spics or chinks. the concept of a multiculti perfect society is absolute fallacy. even if white people only existed, we'd still need about 100 years of eugenics and selective breeding to weed out sociopaths, psychopaths, retards (sorry downie bros), and other mental illnesses from the gene pool. Only THEN could we even start to think about an interstellar communist utopia

you can if you have a Captain with morals. And a crew with morals

>>511052478
From chatgpt:

The economist you're thinking of is John Maynard Keynes. In his 1930 essay titled "Economic Possibilities for our Grandchildren," Keynes predicted that due to technological advancement and productivity growth, people would eventually work much less. Specifically, he foresaw that by around the year 2030, people in developed countries might only need to work 15 to 20 hours a week to meet their basic needs.

Here's a key quote from that essay:

"Three-hour shifts or a fifteen-hour week may put off the problem for a great while."

Keynes believed that the main economic problem—scarcity—would be largely solved, and the challenge would shift to how people use their newfound leisure time meaningfully.

Of course, his prediction hasn’t fully come to pass, largely due to changing consumption patterns, inequality, and cultural factors around work. But the idea remains a powerful thought experiment on the future of labor and prosperity.

>>511049196 (OP)
>There was no money and all basic needs were free.
they also had infinite free energy and devices that made food and pretty much whatever else required
so no, until we have such a level of energy and devices, we cant have that
we could have already had free energy but Edison and JP Morgan had no interest in bettering society unless they could rape shit tons of money in the process

>>511049196 (OP)
You know, Star Trek society wasn't the Enterprise interior.. most places don't have replicators, and Star Fleet can be stingy with them. On Earth, there are zounds of people living in commie blocks eating goy slop because they're mediocre. Nor does everyone get into Star Fleet.
So yeah, I think it's doable. Need to first start promoting based on merit, so that means firing every nigger and woman from most jobs, because Star Trek society is merit based, not free shit for everyone. Shit, even officers on Federation Star Ships don't have full access to the replicator menu and that literally costs Star Fleer zero to provide.

>>511052377
If I could just have the weekend never end and have infinite money, I would be fine with never working again.
If I had the legit option right now I would go for it. I'm not really abnormal in this respect, there would be almost the whole population just enjoying themselves instead of working.
My job isn't even that bad but it can't compete with the weekend and my time off.

>muh Star Trek society!
Yeah, because everyone's family in the United Federation of Planets owns a winery in France...
If free food from replicators is the only thing you want then get on food stamps.

>>511052377
I suppose. But what would even be the point of, say, studying plants? They have scanners that will give all information on a plant, even a new one, in seconds. Wouldn't that just be a hobby or distraction? Or is there a level of society we never see, where like 30% of the population is living lives of quiet despair or hedonistic debauchery? Or else they are rehabbed after a while and (if you see elements of fascism in ST Earth) simply conscripted to some sort of makework job to keep you occupied so you're not just laying around in a holosuite having endless orgies fuelled by synthetic Exstasy? Suicide rate must be high on ST Earth.

>>511051920
>can I just fuck in the holodeck all day
Nah reg gets holodeck addiction and goes to holodeck rehab. Your family /friends would be worried and have an intervention for you

star trek only worked because they had infinite energy and resources (via replicators).

>>511049196 (OP)
>socialistic
It's communism, idiot.

>>511049196 (OP)
Not with kikes like you running the show.

>>511049196 (OP)
Alright OP, I'll truthfully answer your question.

Could we have a Star Trek like society? Absolutely. It's not even far fetched. Everything Star Trek portrayed, outside of space travel/replicators, is possible at this very moment. But the problem is that the people at the top, businesses, etc, don't want that in the slightest. It takes away from there livlihoods and bragging rights.

Cold fusion has already been figured out behind closed doors. The tech to take us into advanced post-scarcity civilization is likely sitting and waiting for more calm times. Disclosure is already slowly happening (whether you like it or not) and I'm pretty sure a solid 75% of movies and TV are designed to prepare the dumbass population for shit that's gonna break their minds. Cold fusion and tapping into unlimited zero point energy ends up with literal Star Trek replicator and warp drive technology. Regardless of whether we're simply mining resources from other planets, or forging brand new atoms to print out McDonalds chicken nuggets, post-scarcity is possible. We just need to smarten the fuck up as a species to be able to use is responsibly.

>>511053975
Nah in the star trek world humanity is focused on self improvement. It's an aspirational fiction. By the 24th century the meaning of life is the search for the meaning of life. People who don't enlist in starfleet have hobby-jobs. They take an interest and dive into it. You like making gumbo. You start a restaurant for people who want to eat non replicated food. People come in an you give them food. You do it to have something to do and because you feel its something worth doing. It's idealism post scarcity economics mixed with protestant work ethic.
>but humans and bad skinned people are stupid and lazy
Yeah a third world war followed by a eugenics war left the remaining society has an existential Renaissance buoyed by earth's total destruction and contact with an alien race. It's aspirational fiction anchored by the post wwii existential movements in Europe.

>>511049196 (OP)
Yes, but only the elite will have access to the tech and life extension.

>>511049196 (OP)
Wasnt there a eugenics war where all the scum of the earth was eliminated?
That could be why star track could be as good as it was

>>511051387
But what if we place AI on top for political/economical/law enforcement control, and use a form of social rating to control resources distribution? And the shitty jobs we can outsource to robots...

>>511056100
Yeah in the tanugen system the first thing they did was kill all the lawyers and change the standard for trial to guilty until proven innocent because why would you put the innocent on trial.