What would it take to convince /pol/ that the moon landing was real?

Elon Musk livestereaming from the moon and showing the landing site.

>>511059944
You'll then say that's fake, too

>>511059857 (OP)
They cannot, the "original footage" looks fake as fuck and we've crossed the threshold of barely being able to tell what is fake and what isn't anymore so any footage is immediately unbelievable no matter if it is legitimate or not.

>>511059857 (OP)
/pol/ It's normies now too. If I talk to the average person about the moon landing it's like a 70/30 if they believe it's real with the majority being deniers. That ratio changes if I'm talking to boomers but virtually every young person doesn't believe in it. Watch the video about Nixon's phone call to the moon and read the comments. Not a single person is like 'wow, what a great accomplishment' they're saying 'how the fuck did boomers believe this?' At this point the cynicism has infected me too, I can't get through the video without cackling like a maniac.

>>511060015
Agree.

the moon landing is real cuz 'Murica

>>511059857 (OP)
Put nazis in charge of NASA again of faggot worshippers and women

>>511060782
*instead of

>>511059857 (OP)
I believe the moon landing was real.
9/11, Epstein suicide, jfk, evolution, etc was all the faked stuff.

>>511059857 (OP)
Another moon landing.

>>511059857 (OP)
The landings were real but the Moon is a hoax

>>511059857 (OP)
Disclosure of the Epstein Files so we might be led to believe the government doesn't ALWAYS lie

>>511061037
>>511060885
epstein really is that important huh. In 5000 years the kids studying us will be reading about the first moon landing and epstein in the same lesson.

>>511059857 (OP)
Fly me to the moon and let me play among the stars.
Let me see what spring is like on Jupiter and Mars
In other words hold my hand
In other words darling kiss me

Sex with pam bondi

>>511059857 (OP)
The Space Larp was a con to sell televisions, retard. They ended up getting JewVision in every house.
I hate these fucking summer zoomers

>>511063068
My uncle was one of the smartest people I’ve ever met. He had a PhD in physics and spent most of his career working for NASA in the 70s and 80s. He wasn’t an astronaut, but he was heavily involved in research and development for space missions.

When I was a teenager, I asked him the big question: “Did we really land on the moon?”

He didn’t laugh, didn’t roll his eyes—just gave me this tired smile and said, “Kid, if you knew how many people it takes to fake something like that, you’d realize it’s easier to just go to the damn moon.”

>>511063261
You uncle molested you.

>“Kid, if you knew how many people it takes to fake something like that, you’d realize it’s easier to just go to the damn
See this is Jewish deflection. They take the claim
>the televised event was fake
and spin it to their own narrative.

THE TELEVISED PART WAS FAKE AND USED TO SELL TELEVISIONS. I was alive when it happened, kid.

>>511059857 (OP)
Moon denialism is well-poisoning crap to make conspiracy understanders look crazy by association, same with flat-earth nonsense and 'nooks r fake!'.

>>511063471
That, and denying whitey his accomplishments.

We should have a 24/7 livestream from a satellite orbiting the moon. Why haven't we done this yet?

>>511059857 (OP)
Cool, release the Epstein files

>>511063580
You can just look up and see it usually, but here's ESA's JUICE spacecraft doing a flyby of the moon not long back.
>inb4 "the juice did this"

If you haven't been to the moon but believe others have then you are stupid.

>>511059857 (OP)
Only browns on YouTube promote moon landing forgery. CIA on the other hand promotes flat earth to poison the well.

>>511061273
An alleged democratic government being controlled by external interests through blackmail is pretty historical.
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>>511063471
>>511063559
You guys say the same thing over and over. The same line in every thread

>>511063580
Same as for the Mars orbiters, probably.

The easiest solution to this would be to let countless normalfags go to the launch site, drop in their phones or gopros or cameras set to record and launch and return them imnediately upon landing. They surely cannot doctor that many SD card footsgevat once.

Where are the Epstein files Rabbi.

>>511064055
You mean "I voted for this"?

>>511063261
It really doesn't take that many people to fake something like that.

>>511059857 (OP)
>What would it take to convince /pol/ that the moon landing was real?
That's literally not possible. The moon landing might be THE fakest and gayest shit EVER.

>>511064055
The same question retains the same answer every time.
>>511064339
Consider why the Soviets would agree to "lose" the moon race, if you're entertaining the theory that the landings were faked. It isn't possible that the Soviets wouldn't know it was happening for real or not, so either they watched a fakery happen and played along for some reason, or they watched the very real landings occur.
Moon landing denial hits logical walls that the theories cannot overcome, it's just wrong as a theory. The landings did occur, both the manned Apollo missions as well as numerous unmanned landers. This image is out of date, just in the last year or two there have been half a dozen unmanned landers sent by nations and companies, stuff lands there regularly these days.

>>511059857 (OP)
Neither the Russians nor the Chinese see any evidence for fake and they are geopolitical opponents who would love to humiliate the USA in World public by uncovering it.

>>511064768
Apollo 12 landed near a prior unmanned lander so the astronauts could check up on it, they took samples of the metal back to Earth in order to study how the lunar environment affects material.
>>511064780
This and it's so obvious that I have to assume deniers are engaging in bad faith, that they're full of shit and know it.

>>511059857 (OP)
It was real, but the tech is gone now.

>>511065103
only the tech to land humans. we still go there regularly with drones

>>511059857 (OP)
Allow people to pay to go there, you would think after 50 plus years this would be an option.

>>511059857 (OP)
I know the moon landing was real because there are no laws preventing me from saying otherwise, nor will I lose my social media, access to banks, or employment for saying
otherwise.

>>511065271
>after 50 plus years this would be an option.
Not since the nazis retired

>>511065271
>Allow people to pay to go there
On what? Orion is capable of going to a lunar orbit and returning, so you could go for a loop around then come home, as is the plan for Artemis 2 in another year or so.
Landing is another story, as there are currently no human landers in existence. You need to make one, as Blue Origin claims to be doing for the HLS contract they sued to receive. SpaceX's Starship also has that contract but we'll see how the design even pans out before I get exited for a large lander from them. Topheavy landers don't play nice in lunar gravity.

>>511059857 (OP)
Little could be said to convince anyone of their opposite stance and that's missing the point. Ultimately it's up to your own perception so you could believe it's all lies meant to hide something from you. Or you could believe it's maybe true maybe fake maybe both but made to deliver a message. What that message is would be up to you. But let's not ignore man reaching out through the abyss and touching the impossible.

>>511064768
>Consider why the Soviets would agree to "lose" the moon race,
Same people control both countries, it's the narrative that is important, not who "wins".

>>511067139
You're a dumb nigger.

>>511067230
Whatever you say glowie.

Thr Olympic was sank instead of the titanic, because Jews are cheap.

The twin towers were blown up, partially because they had asbestos which would cost too much to remove, because jews are cheap.

Now which is more expensive, flying to the moon, or having Kubrick fake it?

>>510999999

>>511060885
>evolution
Punctuated equilibrium is the scientist cope to explain extraterrestrials modifying human genes.

>>511067447
https://petapixel.com/2024/07/24/which-country-captured-the-best-photo-of-the-apollo-11-landing-site/
Thousands of independent scientists from half a dozen nations are all "in on it".

>>511068120
All six landings happened for real, deal with it.
Why fake Apollo 13 which nearly killed the crew?
Again, why would rival nations be "in on it"?
The theories about it being faked simply don't work, they are faulty.

>>511063261
Covid is real too, right? It's not the flu? Why weren't there any flu diagnosises in 2020?

>>511060424
/Thread, if I can't see it right in front of me with my own eyes it will be automatically regarded as fake and gay

>>511063471
>Nukes
Are a Jewish psyop. Nuclear power and Isotopes are real. Mega kill everyone bombs are not.
>above ground testing is banned just as consumer film cameras become popular
LOL

>moon denialism
The moon is real, it exists. It does not conform to our astrophysics models. Perfect eclipses are almost unheard-of in nature. It's an artificial construct. NASA copes again by saying "durr we know how the moon was made." No they don't.

>>511059857 (OP)
A blow job

>>511068697
>>Nukes
>Are a Jewish psyop
Schizo babble, discarded without further review.

>>511068551
>why would rival nations be "in on it"?
The same reason they push the nuke myth. Psyops to control the population.

Did you not read about the (fake and gay) cold War? Nazis bad but NASA's greatest achievements were done by nazis? Soviets bad but let's invite all their jews over!

It's the elites vs normal people. Nothing more.

>>511068828
>shaming language
I accept your concession.

Blow it out your ass.

>>511068828
He's right though nuclear bombs and missiles are pseudo sci fi bullshit stolen from H.G. Wells stories

>>511059857 (OP)

>>511068977
Boo hoo seethe you lost the debate, Jew. Now everyone can see you are wrong and have no argument.

>>511060436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLyJ9FHDO-c

>>511068976
have you never heard of a slow poke reactor? Or nuclear batteries. what is the point of that image?

You could personally take them to the moon and they still wouldn't believe their lying eyes.

>>511063471
>Moon denialism is well-poisoning crap to make conspiracy understanders look crazy by association, same with flat-earth nonsense and 'nooks r fake!'.
Ever since the Epstein shit blew up, there's been hourly moon hoax/flat earth threads on /pol/

>>511069232
>what is the point of that image?
Trolling, well poisoning, general faggotry.

>>511069232
Fission is real
Isotopes are real
Radiation can be dangerous
Nuclear reactors (free energy) are real
Nuclear reactor meltdowns (boiling fuel rods) are real

Super mega kill everyone super poison bombs do not exist, and went away around the time consumer film cameras became available.

>>511069324
They can't though otherwise there would be services for it that would be a huge business hence why it's not possible

>>511069377
Seethe kike. You have no argument.

>>511068976
>nuclear power plants are not real
and other dumb fucking thing sub 80 iq retards will post on the internet

>>511069460
>it that would be a huge business
Have you never heard of SpaceX or Blue Origin?

>>511069460
This.
>It's too expensive!
Egotistical rich elites would love to pay to say they did it. Look at Jeff Bezos on his penis shaped rocket. You're telling me not a single "outsider" rich person every went to space or the moon? Just a bunch of Freemasons?

>>511069564
>words I didn't say
Cope, seethe, dilate
>>511069411
>>511069411

>>511069566
They don't do services to go to the moon and you know it otherwise they would as I stated previously

>>511069367
You're noticing.
>>511069566
People who pretend to deny the moon landings don't actually know anything about spaceflight or the companies involved in the day to day business of it.

>>511069460
>that would be a huge business
Apollo 11 cost roughly $300 million in 2025 dollars
They spent 3 hours on the surface, and the entire trip was uncomfortable and dangerous

In short, you are a retard

>>511069712
It would be a huge business you know how many rich fucks would pay to have a space tour to the moon? It's not possible be quiet

>>511069712
You're right, good thing challenger blew up. That means we need to drop all research and stop going to the moon.

>Afghanistan? Who cares about killing 400,000 people?!

>>511068976
>>511069232
Smoke Detectors, they rely on spontaneous fission of americium-241.

>>511059857 (OP)
Spacetravel open for public

>>511069411
Not to rain on your parade because I also think they're fake, but the miniature version of what you see in the nuke of explosive footage is literally just regular tnt with phosphorus and magnesium. Not only do you get a mushroom updraft in regular explosives anyway (they're not only in nukes, the shape is just physics) but they even admit to testing with boxes of tnt at nuke sites too. For "comparison". And yes, you get a bright flash.

So funnily enough, the small scale version of a nuke is literally just a firecracker. Which would probably explain why everything was being burnt over at Hiroshima instead of being blasted away and flattened.

>It would be a huge business you know how many rich fucks would pay to have a space tour to the moon
For $100 million per person?
When there's a good chance they die on the way?
When they would demand multiple unmanned missions to prove out the technology, meaning your costs are now pushing $1 billion before you see any revenue?
You think THAT is a good business model?

I stand by my assertion - you are a literal retard

>>511070137
>HES STILL STRAWMANNING
radiation existing doesn't mean nukes exist
>>511069411
>>511069411

>>511069684
Both of Intuitive Machine's unmanned landers were delivered to low orbit aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket before leaving orbit for the moon. Pic related, Blue Ghost, also got put into space aboard a Falcon 9 as a paid contract.
You CAN book a ride to space, if you're willing to pay. It is a service that you can pay for now.
>>511069864
Dear Moon was supposed to be what you're describing. Look into it for a minute, it would have been cool.

>>511059857 (OP)
It is utterly inconsequential to me whether the moon landing was fake or not. The commonly accepted narrative of the moon landing is not being used to push anything detrimental to my knowledge. Thus there is no reason to put any thought towards it at the current moment, and if someone asks me about it I would just agree with the accepted narrative. I find it more likely that the theory of a fake moon landing is just poison thrown into the well to make other theories pushed to the fringe more unpalatable to the normalfag.

>>511070278
Holy shit, what a beautiful video anon
It's so surreal watching all the lunar regolith kicked up blocking the view, and then quickly dissipating because it's not swirling in air but just falling back to the ground parabolically

>>511070391
The moon landing and space race pushed the fake and gay cold war psyop, which benefited the jews, and led to our modern religious-cult world creation story of the "post ww2 world."

>>511070565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTDvLmEBESY

>>511070565
How does the meta-narrative of our (jewish) society triumphing scientifically over the soviets (jews) benefit jews? I suppose you could say it was all theater but what is the importance of it today?

>>511070776
It is purely theater. Just like republicans vs democrats. It's to distract people.

>>511070547
I like the little puff as one larger piece gets kicked up and arcs back into the dust, and the way the lander settles in the reduced gravity always looks neat to me.

>>511059857 (OP)
Greatest achievement ever done, oh and they erased the original tapes, oops. Totally real, we just can't do it 60 years later. Trust us, we're the government.

>>511071046
>>511070278
Anon why are you spamming moon footage after you canceled the debate?

>they erased the original tapes

>>511059857 (OP)
Thomas Massie chewing through NASA and concluding it was real.
but to answer your pic, they "did it" several times to argue the point you posted instead of having real arguments.
>recorded over the original tapes
>destroyed stuff they found years later
it's suspicious as hell.
www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/science/moon-landing-tapes-got-erased-nasa-admits-idUSTRE56F5MK/
www.vice.com/en/article/nasa-destroyed-hundreds-of-mystery-tapes-found-in-a-dead-mans-basement-apollo-era/

>>511071198
https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/science/moon-landing-tapes-got-erased-nasa-admits-idUSTRE56F5MK/

>511071737
Yes, thank you for confirming exactly what the infographic says
The only thing that was lost was the original live TV data, and only for Apollo 11
All of the other Apollo 11 data was unaffected, and all the other Apollo missions were 100% unaffected.

https://apolloinrealtime.org/
Pick your mission and follow it in real time, you can listen to entire recorded missions from launch to splashdown.