Are you optimistic?

>>511069003 (OP)
All will be good , Europeans will prevail

>>511069197
Based optimist

>>511069197
We need to see a European baby boom and mass deportation (in stages)

>>511069003 (OP)
Nope
Its looking grim for everyone

>>511069003 (OP)
>future of Europe
grim
and if grim was a color it would be brown

>>511069003 (OP)
It seems increasingly unlikely that 500-1000 years down the line there won’t be at least 15-35% mena and nigger DNA in practically every European population. It also seems increasingly unlikely they can keep the lid on open race war and the possible emergence of empire for more than another 15-20 years, likely starting of in Germany or France. In the next 10 years, European armies will reemerge in response to Russian chimp-outs. Fuck knows what they will do. Things will be getting worse for at least 3 more election cycles. We are heading for the demographic abyss as well. That is the hardest nut to crack besides deportation as of now.

>>511069514
europe has a good base but very bad progress in the direction we want to see it go

>>511069610
western europe has been mass importing non-whites since ww2. it started off with "colonials". Mostly caribbeans, north african jews for the french, indos for the netherlands, indians for the uk, etc. Then mass immigration from Turkey and North Africa of muslims under the guestworker programs. Subsaharans started to stream in too, along with Chinese and assorted asians. Then we got to the migrant crisis and now open border where anyone can basically come in.

>>511069003 (OP)
looking forward to the muslim holocaust

we are about to pull off the most epic fuckin switcheroo in history when we send all of the browns to the frontline of ww3 to be drone fodder instead of ourselves

>>511069683
>bad progress in the direction we want to see it go
What direction might that be? Also ....shouldn't you worry about your shithole?

>>511070563
the new world is a lost cause. back to square 1

>>511070708
ew

>>511069003 (OP)
Civil wars are inevitable.
But this is not the first time that Europe has faced "end of the world" type disasters. We will make it, it wont be easy, but nothing is easy in life and blood will flow, but hey, Europe history is nothing else. But for once, it wont be white people killing each others (unless the US intervene like in the Balkan to protect muslims minorities).

>>511069003 (OP)
The EU will become the Revived Roman Empire.
They lead the charge in the push towards globalization and the establishment of the New World Order.
The Antichrist will come into the spotlight afterwards.
The First Beast from Revelation is the Revived Roman Empire

>>511071331
what percent of metropolitan France would you reckon is of full European descent?

>>511069003 (OP)
are you retarded? the US destroyed europe
europe will not have a future until the american occupation is over

>>511071580
This. Problem is Europeans think America is a white country that's on their side, versus the 40% white nation of spics. But even the white mutts are retarded kike golems that fell for the 1776 psyop, so they hate their own ancestral homelands and worship pissrael.

>>511071580
my grandfather is european and unironically tells me this all the time. But I refute the idea that it's entirely America's fault. Europe could start deporting tomorrow. America wouldn't care less.

>>511071868
Your grandpa knows the truth.

>>511069003 (OP)
So basically next major financial crisis will have see a situation in which there is no cheap credit to plug the hole with. The situation will then be one where total meltdown leads to no jobs and no welfare. Those who can leave will. Think Balkan wars 2.0

>>511069610
Whites don't mix much with none Whites, so I disagree. You're probably a Jew who wants everyone to feel his mongrel identity pain. No, it will be RECONQUISTA.

>>511071580
Europe still has a potential future as the Revived Roman Empire once America withdraws all troops back to the mainland United States. The United States is Babylon. Europe needs to stand up and militarize and become Powerful. The Antichrist comes from Europe. I have identified the 1st Beast from Revelation as the Revived Roman Empire. They will be in Europe. The Third Beast from Revelation will be the United States, where the Whore of Babylon will be, she will be drunk on the blood of the saints. The United States stands as the stronghold of Christianity. Revelation says that the Third Beast from the Bottomless pit will be conquering the Saints until the Ancient of Days returns and saves them. Revelation says that the Saints are called to come out of Babylon so they won’t partake of its judgement. They are called to come to the land of Israel

>>511069935
Yeah thanks. I live here so I know

>>511069003 (OP)

It'll look like it has been for the last 10 years.

>>511071578
It's hard to say. But I would say 85%. Around 45% of immigration in France is intra-European. Probably less true for younger generations. But it's always easier to throw into the sea a migrant who is a newcomer. So, i dont really fear new generation of migrants.
Plus, shittier and hostile the situation will get, the more migrants will leave on their own.

>>511071868
You dont understand how much the US and it's billionnaires are fucking Europe.
Europe itself dont have the money to do what USaid do.

>>511069003 (OP)

Even gayer version of US

>>511072104
I hope so too Nigel. But I know for a bleeding fact that a lot of mixing does occur. I thank the Gods there’s none in my extended family yet, but I see it often. What you will get is a pure substrate, and a mongrel component, and the mongrels over time seep in. Some damage is inevitable. But i am on your side in trying to stem the tide at least.

>>511069003 (OP)
Europeans get mad when I say that EU is one of the top 10 countries in the world.

>>511072541
85% does't seem too bad. France will always have some portion that is from its colonies and are nonwhite. But it should never really be above 7% of the population, I'd say.

France works on a different system that's pretty different from the Anglophone countries. Some pros, some cons. It held onto its colonial empire and has better public infrastructure (energy, rail transport, airports, etc).

>>511069197
black europeans

>>511069003 (OP)
The outlook for the future has always been bleak; however, things tend to work out in the long run.

>>511072798
"Mixing is inevitable, give up goy". No mixing is not inevitable. Even in a technological dark age, tech will survive like DNA tests. Such stuff will be used to determine the purity of Whites and friend Vs foe. On top of this take the USA a place with a long history of Whites and none Whites living next to one another. Whites there are memes aside virtually pure White. Much of Spain likewise. Since the reconquista was essentially a genocide. The exception to this was the south of Spain. Where the genocidal phase seemed to patter out+the fact that it is a border region and has been like that for a very long time. The main goal has to be the collapse of the USA so they can intervene.

>>511073336
albanians?

>>511069003 (OP)
Fuck europe

>>511069003 (OP)
This man will be the whitest european in 2080

>>511072172
More than half of Europe are European WOMEN and they don't like you, they like the BBC!!!

>>511073400
yeah we should always remember the reconquista and the kicking out of the ottomans from the balkans.

>>511073546
Something is wrong with this horse

>>511073423
the new Hellenes

https://youtu.be/nYM4o4yUJIE?feature=shared

>>511073370
not for the native americans kek...

>>511069003 (OP)
Dark, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. The only question is whether we can dodge the train.

>>511073797
TND IS INEVITABLE!

>>511069003 (OP)
It depends if our current leadership actually find their spine and continue breaking out of US vassalisation. It's going to be painful, but it's necessary if Europe wants to have any future were we actually decide our own fates.

>>511069003 (OP)
I think it failed miserable. They had some cohesion at the beginning but lost it overtime. Too few tried to control too many without any oversight or care for common people. They went off rails and you can't come back from that. Reminds me of Austria-Hungary desu

We are already seeing the return of nationalism and even fascism in most European countries. Spain is probably going to be the country that moves the overton window over to making cleansing your country of goatfuckers and niggers acceptable. Eventually we will take our countries back and before you say "sure whatever extremist" yes i am an extremist and government made me this way by treating Mohammed and angubwe ossas the imported rapists better than me.

>>511069003 (OP)
Only if the EU implodes and we don't have to take orders from Brussels anymore.

>>511074499
>We are already seeing the return of nationalism and even fascism in most European countries.

among sexless zoomers. take a look at any football stadium and you'll see that hordes of well adjusted normies are doing just fine cheering on africans and arabs. they don't mind because they are not sexually isolated like you losers

>>511069610
>t seems increasingly unlikely that 500-1000 years down the line there won’t be at least 15-35% mena and nigger DNA in practically every European population
Brutal but almost certain at this point. Once you reach a certain population point the race mixing explodes.

>>511074242
Surrender the foreskin

>>511073098
The problem is the trend going down. Which need to be stopped as soon as possible.

>>511074624
you don't. is this not exemplified by denmark already?

>>511074499
at least 20% of their country is already foreigners

>>511073400
>On top of this take the USA a place with a long history of Whites and none Whites living next to one another. Whites there are memes aside virtually pure White.
That's reversing quickly

>>511069003 (OP)
Yes it looks very good.
Lots of women will be raped by Jeets and Muslims, inshallah/donotredeem

rol for what type of shitskin rapes your HS crush: 0-4 Muslim / 5-9 Jeet

>>511075249
even if they were only 5% it's the birthrates that really matter

Of course a Jeet will rape my crush, we only take Nepalese after all haha
The rollgods don't lie

>>511073546
dick sucking lips why won't you let the great late veteran live

Nope.

Demographically we are doomed. The EU is addicted to cheap foreign labor and we have no cheap energy so automation or AI won't save us from this. Eventually this will turn Europe from being home of Europeans to just another low trust economic zone ruled by racial politics.

Technologically we are falling behind the US/China and this will only accelerate as we deindustrialize further and our multinationals become dependent on EU regulation to keep their market rather than innovating and which allows them to compete with the world.

The social safety net which was once what made us better than Americans will be thrown away so the Eurocrats and NATO can suck all that money into defense spending for a war with Russia that will never come that we will constantly be be made afraid of to break up nationalism and keep us in the EU.

The EU is increasingly paranoid about people saying things they don't want to hear and censorship and disinformation are being pushed massively to make sure we don't think the wrong way.

Our future with the EU is scared, brown, broke police state. Leave while you can if you have any skills.

>>511069610
>European armies will reemerge in response to Russian chimp-outs.
To have an army you need nationalism. You can't have nationalism and being ruled by the EU/NATO. The first thing any true nationalist party would ask is why are we getting such a shit deal?

>>511074499
>Eventually we will take our countries back
Your countries are already gone. If you said your opinions publicly you'd be seen as a terrorist rather than a freedom fighter.

>>511069003 (OP)
Third world economic wasteland

>>511075722
maybe if you guys didn't start a war with ukraine you'd still have cheap russian gas...

>>511069003 (OP)
Not looking good i can tell you that much.

>>511075849
*start a war with russia
>>511075838
i don't see why europe doesn't take on some debt

>>511069003 (OP)
Ash.

imagine all the Jesus statues and crucifixes getting smashed when churches get turned into mosques. a scandinavian's wet dream

>>511072104
>Whites don't mix much with none Whites,
They'll just force you to.

>>511069003 (OP)
Europe is completely powerless. There is absolutely nothing that can be done to save it. And Eurotards don't seem to understand why.

>>511076013
Imagine all the feminist vaginas that will get raped haha
Almost every woman in Europe is a feminist literally don't give a fuck.

>>511069197
Not with you or germans in it.

>>511076026
all those poor white women forced to fuck tyrone while some beta john changes the diapers

>>511075722
>The EU is addicted to cheap foreign labor and we have no cheap energy so automation or AI won't save us from this
This is pure bulshit. Most imigrants dont even work and most factories that hired 3000 poeple in the past now hire 100.

>>511069197
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>>511069610
>European armies will reemerge in response to Russian chimp-outs.
You people are utterly fucking delusional.

>>511071580
>are you retarded? the US destroyed europe
>europe will not have a future until the american occupation is over
Correct. But that cannot happen because Europe can neither be independent nor sovereign. And the people running Europe are kikes.

>>511072798
There's some lily white neighborhoods that haven't been penetrated but the coast is probably completely over.
Inside every stroller pushed by a blonde girl with average looks you see yet another mudgoblin with curly brownish-greyish hair inside.
I don't believe whites are going extinct but I have accepted the fact that a big portion of whites, not necessarily the majority are going to mingle with non-whites mostly due to factors out of their control.
You could be a dad that has shit pay and end up with muttoid grandchildren simply because you can't escape the third world being delivered next to you.

I have love for fellow whites, not trying to counter signal but it's disheartening to know that white elites at the top have basically doomed low class whites to the fate of mongrelization, I know evil kikes are the headliners but I will not forgive white goyim who do have power but refuse to even pushback.

There are basically zero problems in europe if we take care of the immigration issue that generate crime. Immigration is gold all the way when the right people come, but when politicians only drag in the poor degenerate monkeys everyone knows what will happen. Everyone beside politicians of course because they are the biggest degenerates in all of this.

We also need to take care of the poor losers and make sure that a certain amount of the fat welfare fucks just die out. Its the same as the jobless fucktards in The US. If The US can make things so hard and expensive for them that they wont survive in The US, the west will blossom. It is always the crap at the bottom of the bucket who are the big problem within society. You get rid of that, you get rid of the problem.

>>511074266
>It depends if our current leadership actually find their spine and continue breaking out of US vassalisation.
Escape it how exactly? You can't, retard. Otherwise it would already be done.

>>511074499
>We are already seeing the return of nationalism and even fascism in most European countries.
If America sanctioned Europe it would be poorer than Africa, retard.

None of you retards don't understand how anything works. Which is why you can never fix anything.

>>511075849
>maybe if you guys didn't start a war with russia you'd still have cheap russian gas.
They didn't, retard. That was America. Why do you think Nordstream has holes in it?

>>511073400
Again, the genetic difference in the Iberian Peninsula is East-West, not North-South. The Reconquista practically destroyed the Southern Iberians, since the Northern Iberians massively repopulated the lands they took.

>>511076413
>this is pure bullshit
>most immigrants don't work
The EU doesn't care about that. Muslims have huge amounts of kids that keeps the birthrate up and population growth keeps the economy growing. Houses need to be built, food chains need to grow, and so on.

The EU will hire different immigrants from India or SEA to work in nursing homes or other dirty jobs in addition to niggers and arabs who just have lots of kids.

>>511076510
European old money is worse than jews. Countries with old money like UK and you have the worst housing and imigration crisis and also have most land owned by same old money.

>>511076830
I feel like the thing about these natural resources is that they wouldn't have any value if there weren't actually productive countries like those in Europe, the US, or East Asia that actually use them

>>511076510
>I don't believe whites are going extinct
That's because you're making bad assumptions, thinking in short timescales, and are incapable of understanding the scale of the problem.

>>511076910
Thats just dumb. You can just build empty houses like china does if thats the point. You can build expensive bird houses if you belive that kynsean bulshit.

>>511077157
how are niggers going to feed themselves without europeans though?

>>511077130
>I feel like the thing about these natural resources is that they wouldn't have any value if there weren't actually productive countries like those in Europe, the US, or East Asia that actually use them
And? Do you have a fucking point? Without them you're fucked.

>>511076510
>There's some lily white neighborhoods that haven't been penetrated but the coast is probably completely over
what do you mean by that? in the netherlands?

>>511077283
The same way they did before European markets coddled them: by eating people.

>>511077358
the funny thing i think is that 4channers like to say "the kikes want multiculturalism for thee but not for thyselves".

however, israel literally imported hundreds of thousands of niggers and jeets who's jewishness basically boils down to their leaders having dreams of being from a jewish lost tribe. i'm not kidding. search it up.

I say this because I think Israel will have to take responsibility for much of africa as the europeans russians and americans continue to exit. or the chinese i guess...

>>511077534
*themselves

Two more weeks.

Y'all should look at this from a more positive perspective. If whites remained in charge the AI would take over and turn y'all into batteries. With us leading the way things are gonna be ok. Maybe a bit less advanced, but at least descendants of normies will remain organic. Have faith in the Providence.

>>511077283
>how are niggers going to feed themselves without europeans though?
The Chinese will make sure they get fed in exchange for resources. The battery in your phone is cobalt-oxide lithium-ion. That cobalt is from the Congo. Why do you think Europe is voluntarily cucking itself so hard? It has no resources.

For that matter, the only reason Europeans can feed themselves is because of fertilizers derived from the Haber process, which requires massive amounts of natural gas.

>>511077169
>You can just build empty houses like china does if thats the point.
They need a big population because that means a more consumption, more money gets spent and the GDP increases. These things mean that the bankers can have the stock market increase and the investors get a profit.

They don't see us as countries with identities, cultures or anything else. We are just an economic zone that should be homogenized into a single market to buy crap so the investors make money.

>>511077980
the fact that the netherlands has a housing "crisis" is so funny.

how can one of the richest countries in the world with a stagnant native population have a housing crisis. just build apartments and homes for the dutch people...

Numerals and my HS crush will get slimed by a muslim

>>511077980
Nope they need etnic conflict so poeple dont murder elites and split the gains from tehnology more evenly.

EU has no future. Only if it teams up with Canada or US it may have one.

>>511069003 (OP)
Lots of delusionary zoomers in this shit thread. You know, every generation of DR used to say "this time is different" and "something will happen in the future", but no, every generation keep repeating the same mistake. Civilizations cannot be restored once they die. Period.

>>511078095
Well decendants or dutch east india own a lot of housing and the law makes building new defacto ilegal.

>>511077980
>They don't see us as countries with identities, cultures or anything else.
as if they should. what identity does a normie even have except his bank account and social status. ultimately all of this is people's fault, they abolished every inherited value as soon as they got a chance. so fuck them

>>511078260
>EU has no future. Only if it teams up with Canada or US it may have one.
No. Europe has no future without Russia. The US and Canada have no future either. Moreover, America is the most anti-white country in the entire world. America has always hated Europe. And America is the reason Europe is fucked.

>>511078358
the Dutch built flevoland, an entire new dutch province, out from the ocean.

And what did they decide to do with the new land??

They built an ugly cities (almere and lelystad) and filled them with caribbeans and north africans

>>511069003 (OP)
>What is the future of Europe looking like?
something between ukraine and syria

>>511071425
>The EU will become the Revived Roman Empire.
not with da German or Anglo influence, they would wish
Closest we came was with Napoleon , he even aimed to retake Constantinople

>>511078707
the jew can show you the door to degeneracy, but it is you who must walk through it. europeans sprinted

>>511078528
Only way old money can keep poeple enslaved with debt is with more migration. Dutch also have a law that mortgage is tax write off. It does wonders for housing prices.

>>511079165
the point is thought that the dutch could build public housing if it wasnt for the fact that they knew it would get instantly filled up with third worlders

>>511069003 (OP)
total jewish genocide

>>511076278
Yep. Also add Spain as well. Look what is happening there recently. Italy should kick some illegals as well and take control of the South provinces.

>>511069003 (OP)
I just hope eastern Europe will not make some mistakes west made related to nature.

When you travel from east to west, there is a big difference. Evrey single spot of land has human amprent over it. You have agriculture all over. Consctructions and forests are artificially planted. Not a single spot of wilderness.

It may look clean and organised first but after living a while and you can compare it with some undeveloped areas, you will miss the nature and low density areas. Main reason i won't live in western europe is this one.

>>511069003 (OP)
Europe is becoming discount China

>>511069003 (OP)
Browned stagnation, 0 prospects for the future, dead continent for 98% of people. The only people with optimistic future already are the ones that inherited wealth or connections.
Europe is a continent sized elderly care home culturally and economically, that's getting browned.