Thread 511086697

NO REFUND YOU BLIND FUCKS

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14915995/pfizer-covid-vaccine-eye-changes-damage-risk.html

>>511086697 (OP)
>permanent heart problems
>blood clots
>brain aneurysms
>turbo cancer
>blindness
SAFE AND EFFECTIVE

i think this one is fake
vaxxies were blind to begin with

>>511086697 (OP)
Catching covid is linked to kidney damage and low P53 proteins levels.
Roll the dice bitch.

>>511086697 (OP)
my entire family got pfizer. why havent they gone blind yet?

>>511088658
i find it hilarious how

>thing i dislike not happening to me = not truth
>thing i like not happening to me = truth

>>511088899
so they havent gone blind because?

>>511086697 (OP)
trump created this vaccine. He should take the blame

>>511088658
Not everyone got the same batch ID. I'm tired of repeating it to every tourist.

>>511089004
because your IQ is like 75 at best yet you chose to be ignorant
lets say every 100th person that got vaccine has this issue, should we just pretend it is not a real issue and that it was justified to force this on people?

>>511089136
and batch id matters because?

>>511089169
so the 100th person goes blind and yet chuds can barely find a handful of people who have gone blind to the vaccine apparently

>chud
>it does not matter
yep its a zogbot
sad this site has turned into this shit, very sad, +5 rupee for You mr corporate shill saar

>>511087913
Yeah, that is a fake. It's a guy.

>>511089270
https://knollfrank.github.io/HowBadIsMyBatch/HowBadIsMyBatch.html

the lack of any meaningful quality control was one of the biggest red flags of all. some batches were likely saline, others were intentionally designed to wreck your shit. judging by your reply, you got a bad one when you went in for your 5th booster

Guy I know got the clot shot and all the boosters, and was pressuring me to do the same (I didn't). Now he's got hypertension and it's not looking good, I can't bring myself to say "I told you so".

>>511088899
I find it hilarious that you fags keep making excuses. Keep up the pilpul.

>>511090190
but i thought i was supposed to die if i dont take the vax? why did narrative switch into, ha you see we did not die for taking it yet?
drones are hopeless

>>511086697 (OP)
>only 64 people
> none of them reported any difficulty seeing
> all the report says is their corneas were slightly thicker for a temporary amount of time
> EVERY VAXXED PERSON IS IMMINENTLY GOING TO DIE.

>>511089648
so it matters because some schizo thinks 1/10000000 batches were contaminated. got it.

>>511090063
qrd?

>>511090314
vaxxie are you okay?
coping this hard because you DID something is funny

>>511086697 (OP)
The best part is that there is no such disease as 'covid' and there was no global spread of 'sars-cov-2' in 2020. The entire pandemic was a media illusion created by hype, PCR fraud, and masking rituals.

Humanity didn't cure the flu for 18 months in 2020, they just called it and every other upper respiratory infection 'covid', and the pandemic was all an illusion. The injection was never meant to stop any coronavirus, let alone one that didn't exist in the first place. No refunds niggers.

>>511086697 (OP)
heh. pfizer cucks are done.

i got my family the russian one. so we're safe right?

>>511086697 (OP)
Vaxxies are HELLBOUND!!

>>511088177
The covid vax destroys the kidneys of individuals with polycystic kidneys.

>>511090329
you sound gigavaxxed. enjoy some articles that you wont be able to read

https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/analysis-of-mrna-injections-lot-to

https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/broken-bioweapon

>>511090394
Just pointing out the ridiculous overreaction of acting like this is at all comparable to blindness.

>>511086697 (OP)
>They knew: why didn’t the unvaccinated do more to warn us?
>The unvaccinated knew what we didn't. Some of them said too little. Most said nothing at all. A lot of blood is now on their hands.
https://afru.com/unvaccinated-silence/

>>511090603
cool schizo websites chud

>>511090329
If you're vaxxed, just relax.
Excitement could be deadly for you.

>>511086697 (OP)
If they could see this thread they'd be very upset.

>>511090865
kek

>>511090819
illiterate vaxxie confirmed

>>511090826
i never relax around anti vax

>>511091118
Calm down, faggot.
Your heart might explode.

>>511091182
its crazy how none of my family developed heart problems.

must suck to be an anti vaxxer

>>511091118
Get boosted then nigger

i just got back from sitting with my grandma who is dying of cancer, she and my dad got it together and they were both diagnosed with cancer 6 weeks after their second shot. he recovered because he's young, she did not. they used her as a guinea pig in a cancer drug trial which helped the leukemia but she just got taken off last month and is declining pretty quickly. she's in a lot of pain so her death will be a mercy

i also have 3 other close friends who died suddenly and a friend whose cancer returned after he got the shot and died, they were all beautiful people and left behind loving families, kids, friends, partners. i have two friends with permanent brain damage after their shots, one of them remains more or less bedridden and has to lay in the dark and quiet because otherwise the headaches are suicide-inducing. out of my mom's book club of 10-15 old ladies, at least 3 of them had severe enough side effects that they stopped getting boosters. millions and millions of lives ruined by this shit. it's so evil. i can't wrap my mind around it. the scale is enormous.

>>511091524
Actually only the Vaxxoids got myocarditis

>>511088658
Don't worry! You can find solace in the fact that you are no longer human while you're waiting to go blind or die or a clotted heart.

>>511090671
there has been report after report describing an ever growing list of eye related side effects. thousands and thousands and thousands of people have had crippling eye injuries due to the vaxx. the numbers will grow and grow and grow. these reports and articles have been posted here all along for years now. and every thread was full of people like you denying the obvious
>yeah but im not blind yet
get fucked vaxxie trash

>>511086697 (OP)
My aunt went blind, got parkinsons and died after gettin vaxxed and boosted

>unvaxxed
>blind in one eye and going blind in the other
Haha suffer with me vaxcattle

>>511091655
beautiful people you gay as hell niggah

>>511091659
>>511091907
seething anti vaxxers hate how healthy me and my family are.

>>511088658
More importantly, how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this AM?

>tfw unvaxxed
Feels so good man. Thank you /pol/, truly.

>>511090729
i can't tell if this site is parody or if this is what it sounds like if you actually listen to a modern successful black woman

>>511092731
Black women are based

>>511090603
wait you actually believe the government is capable of anything, let alone this convoluted way of killing everyone?
especially since it would leave all their schizo critics unscathed andnall their sheep neutralized and thus nearly impossible to be control?
why?
why would they do that instead of just mass producing saline so people shut the fuck up and get back to work?

>>511086697 (OP)
the article doesn't say what study this even was lol

>>511088177
What the hell, how tf u expect me to play Fortnite without my PS5 proteins. It got that dog in it it gotta eat bro

>>511086697 (OP)
Eye have this. no joke.

>>511092984
most black women look like fat misshapen monsters

>>511092731
I couldn't tell either. Sounds absolutely unhinged but then I checked the "about" tab.. it's a black owned and operated start up you see...

>>511086697 (OP)
n=64...

>>511093072
a powerful group of people captured the government and then used it and its institutions to successfully attack the people with a bioweapon - they will cull the masses while experimenting on them and squeezing every penny out of their pockets on their way to the grave
tldr - tptb don't care about you and want you gone

>>511086697 (OP)
>Daily mail
Ok groomer

>>511086697 (OP)
I know someone with that, doctors studs is something called fuchs disease, fucked up :(

>>511093758
i had also clicked on the about tab - it made my confusion worse. admidst all the blm nonsense there is an article by the proud black owner about how dating white men doesn't diminish her blackness. i didn't read it, i just closed the site instead

>>511089169
>IQ is like 75
>trusting the daily mail as his source of groundbreaking medical revelation
>Let’s take a look at the study.
>N=64 (lmao).
>no report of control group, just pre and post vaccine group (lol)
>no actual clinical implication of outcome even if real/attributable to vaccine (again, no evidence this “finding” is even attributable to the vaccine)

Wow house MD over here with his brilliant interpretation of this groundbreaking “trial”.

t. Physician

>>511094432
>Physician
i am glad you graduated from dr shekelberg uni
that does not make you any more intelligent even if true, which it is not since you write like total reddit idiot
keep coping vaxxie

>>511090350
“A new study out of Turkey has raised concerns about serious and dangerous eye-related side effects linked to the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, suggesting it may lead to subtle but measurable changes in the cornea that could increase the risk of long-term vision problems.

The findings, published in Ophthalmic Epidemiology, are based on a study of 64 individuals whose eyes were examined before and after receiving two doses of the vaccine.

Study Links Pfizer COVID Vaccine to Corneal Changes: A new study from Turkey found that the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine may cause measurable changes to the cornea, including increased thickness, reduced endothelial cell density, and altered cell shape — potential indicators of stress or early damage to eye health.
Potential Long-Term Vision Risks Identified: While the short-term effects didn’t result in noticeable vision problems, scientists warned that if these corneal changes persist, they could lead to serious conditions like corneal swelling or decompensation — especially in individuals with pre-existing eye issues or corneal transplants.
Endothelial Cell Loss Raises Concerns: Participants experienced an 8 percent decline in endothelial cell count after two vaccine doses, with cell shape uniformity also decreasing. These specialized cells do not regenerate, and loss beyond a certain point may lead to permanent vision impairment.“

Cont’d

>>511086697 (OP)
kek

>>511094886
“ Researchers Call for Monitoring, Not Panic: Despite the findings, the researchers did not advise against vaccination but urged long-term monitoring, particularly for patients with low endothelial cell counts. The study adds to existing safety concerns about mRNA vaccines, including heart-related risks already acknowledged by the FDA.
Scientists discover Pfizer COVID jab linked to major eye damage

The researchers focused on the corneal endothelium, the innermost layer of the cornea responsible for maintaining corneal clarity by pumping out excess fluid. Using specialized tools such as specular microscopy and Sirius corneal topography, they observed changes in corneal thickness, a decline in endothelial cell count and alterations in cell size and shape — indicators of stress or damage to this delicate structure.

Specifically, corneal thickness increased by approximately 14 micrometers (a 2 percent rise), which in itself is not harmful but could signal inflammation or fluid retention. More concerning was the eight percent drop in endothelial cell density — from 2,597 to 2,378 cells per square millimeter — still within the safe range for healthy individuals, but potentially risky for those with already compromised eye health.

The study also found that the vaccine led to increased variability in cell size, known as the coefficient of variation, which rose from 39 to 42. This suggests some cells may have died and others stretched to fill the gaps, a typical response to stress. Additionally, the percentage of hexagon-shaped cells, which are vital for maintaining a healthy endothelial layer, dropped slightly from 50 percent to 48 percent.”

>>511095064
“ Although none of the participants reported noticeable vision issues during the two-month follow-up, scientists caution that these microstructural changes could have long-term consequences, especially for people with existing eye problems or a history of eye surgeries such as corneal grafts. If the damage to the endothelium is permanent or worsens over time, it could result in conditions like corneal edema, bullous keratopathy or corneal decompensation — disorders that may lead to chronic vision impairment or even blindness if untreated.

Despite these findings, the researchers did not advise against COVID-19 vaccination. They emphasized the need for ongoing monitoring and further long-term studies to determine if the observed changes persist or resolve over time. Importantly, the study confirmed a high likelihood that the changes were directly associated with the vaccine and not random occurrences.

This research adds to a growing list of safety concerns surrounding COVID-19 vaccines. In May, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration expanded warning labels on Pfizer and Moderna vaccines to more clearly highlight the risk of myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly in young men aged 16–25.”

>>511095118
“ While the short-term effects of the Pfizer vaccine on eye health appear to be mild, the study underscores the importance of ongoing post-vaccination surveillance and personalized medical care for individuals at risk. As evidence continues to evolve, health agencies and physicians may need to consider more tailored guidance for those with existing ocular conditions.

Yes, Vax Eye Syndrome is on the rise. Bookmark Vaccines.news to your favorite independent websites for updates on experimental gene therapy injections that lead to blindness, deafness, early death, infertility, turbo cancer and Long-Vax-Syndrome.”

>>511086697 (OP)
Unjabbed.
Untested.
Unmasked.
Uncircumsized.
Literally not my problem.

>>511086697 (OP)
Im starting to think this clot shot and shedding talk is a blanket for something much more serious

>>511095255
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09286586.2025.2522724

>>511094107
when you manage to climb to the top of a house of cards, you don't kick out the floor. it's already too unstable, why make it worse when you're supposedly in control?

makes no sense, especially knowing the risk tolerance of the wealthy and the sheer difficulty of project management at that scale.

like i said, more likely there was never a vaccine, just saline.

explains the fast rollout with zero caution cuz you know nothing will happen, the insistence on just getting more shots (of nothing) because it won't do anything but provide peace of mind to believers, the insistence that everyone go back to work because basically everyone involved was heavily invested in (now unoccupied) commercial real estate, and the mass unrest of 2020 caused by people not working

conspiracies sounds great until you have to delegate their execution to layers and layers of millions of retards, which is why most of governance is just posturing and proclamation

>>511095409
Yeah, the cloud variants are going to shed us into the internet of bodies.

>>511090350
they were refusing you to visit dieing relatives. so many people died alone because COVID and the ghouls and demons in scrubs laughed and danced. they are telling a family keeping vigil outside the hospital(refused to be in the room))) and thats how the nurses told them their loved one died. the fact is those idiots killed 100,000's with their incompetence and hubris. trust the "science"

>>511095904
Muh 130,000 people on the Manhattan Project. Not counting all the inputs like people selling them steel or whatever, not knowing what it's for, and people transporting stuff for them, not knowing what it is. People like sekrits. It makes them feel special.

>>511088658
>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14915995/pfizer-covid-vaccine-eye-changes-damage-risk.html
get them tested bro
do they have watery eyes sometimes? thats how it starts

>>511094886
>>511094886
grim
all of it. and its just a fraction of whats going on - doctors (99% bitch hacks who should be stripped of credentials and property) of every specialty, from dermatologists to gynecologists to cardiologists to neurologists to etc etc all all baffled and have never seen anything like theyre seeing now

>>511095309
Wish I could find a real nip that wasn't vaccinated, sadly I haven't found one.

>>511095904
this project was developed and implemented by the us military on orders from washington dc. if you want to know how wrong you really are, go look up the work done by sasha latypova (she was mentioned upthread)
also,
this is a controlled demolition of the nation-state. our criminal governments have delivered our nations into the hands of global bankers - these guys see more security and longterm profit in a strategy of reboot and upgrade of industry - the automated tech dystopia. the new plan doesn't require us

>>511086697 (OP)
Jesse Dunstan of The Right Stuff podcast group (a fake Alt Right group that lures naive Whites into honeypots) wanted the National Guard to enforce lockdowns with shoot-to-kill orders. He also said "Fuck your small business" to anyone who complained about going bankrupt because of the lockdowns.

https://files.catbox.moe/j1ccjy.mp4


The Latinx "former" communist Eric Stryker of TRS and the National Justice Party (NJP, another scam outfit and honeypot) said the Science™ is settled and the clot shot is Safe and Effective.

https://files.catbox.moe/fts32c.mp3


Meanwhile, Chairman Mike Peinovich of TRS and NJP, who married a B'nai B'rith jewess, says if you think the clot shots are dangerous, you're a fucking moron who needs to shut up:

https://vocaroo.com/12Gtls75gvu4

>This is why I hate, hate, hate stupid covid vaccine shit so much! And I have zero respect for anyone that continues to peddle it, and frankly if I see it in any of my chats I think you're stupid! I think you're fucking stupid! I'm done pretending anymore! When I see you say "sudden death" shit, FUCK YOU! That shit you're falling for was used to totally deep six any ability to maybe control the border and prevent millions more brown people in this country! So enjoy it! Enjoy your stupid fucking memes! That you don't believe someone had a heart attack! Why the fuck wouldn't a nigger have a heart attack?! What you're mad about, because you're dumb, ok I'm sorry, the people that do this are just dumb, you got tricked, and if you did, it's never too late to simply stop!

Remember these names when the time comes to remove traitors from our midst.

>>511090396
THIS.

>>511086697 (OP)
Hopefully it only affects blue eyed devils

>>511086697 (OP)
Damage to the 3rd eye. The article is disguised and meant to be understood by Psi Force operatives, not normies.

>>511086697 (OP)
Vaxxoids are rejected by Goe

>>511096214
they also murdered thousands of slightly ill people by injecting them w remdesivir and blowing out their lungs w unnecessary ventilation. these gouls know exactly what they were doing- it flew in the face of all previous medical knowledge and all common sense. but they just kept murdering them. month after month. and the hospitals and doctors and nurses and techs got paid big time.
thousands of doctors and nurses quit rather than inject people. those who went through with it should be thrown out of medicine and investigated for participation in a murderous criminal conspiracy

>>511096411
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gJ5FqpElkK0

>>511097391
>this project was developed and implemented by the us military on orders from washington dc.
Don't forget our very special friends.

>>511097730
It's funny how much stuff has been memoryholed about 2020. Reminder that the following all happened:

>COVID was spread early on by the jetsetting crowd going to conferences and such -- a lot of the initial outbreaks showed up in Jewish communities because they tend to travel a lot
>The Government early said masks don't do anything (but admit that they lied to prevent shortages despite shortages being caused by masks being sent out of the country to China)
>Government said that cloth masks and social distancing prevented the spread of COVID despite the fact that it didn't, only a properly fitted N95 mask had any hope of stopping it
>Leftists said that George Floyd riots didn't increase the spread of COVID despite it contracting all their lockdown rules. They cited a letter from doctors that basically said that it would increase COVID but that it was 'worth the risk' to protest injustice
>Trump was pro-vaccine, and pushed to have it rolled out on a limited basis before his election
>Leftists thought that Trump forced through the vaccine for this reason and swore that they'd never take it

>>511086697 (OP)
is this a white exclusive thing, every indian I know is triple vaccinated with booster and they are doing just fine.

>>511088658
My family is pureblooded
You and your dysgenic family are fucking pathetic

yeah no shit

>>511096882
>Wish I could find a real nip that wasn't vaccinated,

My Japanese wife in also pureblood.
Only I can jab her, if you know what I mean.

>>511098970
they engineer the virus to target whites genetically

>>511098382
you're right
the us military was the tool used to bring the vaxx into existence (decades of r&d), build it, and deliver it to billions of people. all planned and prepped years in advance.
there were many many other players who were essential in making the battle plan work

>>511089035
Pics of Trump in McDonalds and a garbage truck but none in a lab coat you dipshti

>>511086697 (OP)
Did anyone actually read this article? This is a bait article for antivaxxers, the changes to the cornea were microscopic and almost too small to detect

>Specifically, the team found that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine caused a patient's cornea to go from 528 to 542 micrometers in thickness, or roughly 0.0208 inches to 0.0213 inches. This is a roughly two-percent increase in micrometers.

>>511086697 (OP)
>no control group
Into the trash it goes.

>>511087433
checked
it really is a safe and effective way to depopulate people who lack critical thinking skills.

>>511091990
Seethe more, but it won’t bring yr children back from malaria Karen.

>>511089270
It also depends how you inject it.
If the injection is near a circulation point that takes it more quickly to the heart, the spike proteins mess up the heart.

So I never got any of the shots.
When is Covid turbokilling me again?

>>511091907
So they lied and told everyone it was a vaccine when it was really a gene therapy?

It explains why it didn't function like a vaccine and create immunity and prevent transmission etc.

I can't help but laugh when I hear about fully jabbed people talking about all the times they caught covid.

>>511086697 (OP)
>Read the actual study
>No risk to anyone that hasn't had a corneal graft
You fucks should read

People spent 2 years online, of course their eyes got bad.

>>511088177
pharma occultists shall be publicly raped

>>511086697 (OP)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40658089/
>Conclusion: Changes in corneal endothelium occur in the short term after two-doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech (BNT162b2) COVID-19 mRNA vaccine. Hence the endothelium should be closely monitored in those with a low endothelial count or who have had a corneal graft.

Red deer confirmed

>>511088658
It will make everyone who took it go blind in exactly 14 days. If you think that is retarded and that this is just a rare side effect then you are a shill and/or a scared coping vaxxie.

>>511099416
>Did anyone actually read this article?

>antivaxxers
>reading articles

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

im gonna take down the deep state

i never wanted this

you cant contain me, i have contingencies in place that you couldn't even fucking imagine

the people deserve to be free. the land deserves to be free

my coming was foreordained before the creation of the world

>>511101359
>>511101393
>>511101543
Holy shit it's like you can just see the code in the Bible, math, language, and biology. You need to teach others how to do this.

>>511101641
>>511101733
Who or what are you, anon? The world must know.

>>511101329
My mistake for assuming antivaxxers were anything more than subhumanly illiterate

>>511086697 (OP)
Eyes are the first place you notice stokes and or clots and is considered an early warning signal for something more serious. This is due to the small vessels making it easy for doctors to see.
>>511087433
>>511087913
>>511088177
>>511088658

>>511086697 (OP)
You all are a bunch of fucking pussies. You lost family members to this vaccine or damaged for life yet you sit and let these fucking pieces of shit get away with it.

You shit talking faggots won't do shit you had friends and family murdered right in front of your eyes.

>>511102195
Strokes*

>>511088177
cope

>>511101744
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria

>>511086697 (OP)
>2% increase in cornea thickness
>8% decrease in endothelial cells
>this is still within normal levels and there's no sign if its permanent = MAJOR EYE DAMAGE!!!!
Major bullshit is more like it but what can you expect from the Daily Fail?

>>511093462
That says PS3 proteins. Mine must be vaxxed because it keeps 3 times and blinks red.

>>511088658
This happened to my father in law after the second vax. He had a literal stroke in the veins behind his eyes and almost went blind but recovered.

>>511102552
Do you have a better guide? I don't trust Wikipedia for obvious reasons.

We really need to get a list going

the corporate government created a dialectical real world exercise to manufacture justification to use violent force to control freedom of movement and association and financially harm the vast majority of people in the population

>>511086697 (OP)
still 1 in 100k chance of an adverse effect, including this one.

>>511088177
>if you take the covid vax then you can't catch covid.

>>511088658
I smoke 10 cigs a day.
Why don't I have cancer?

>>511089169
>lets say every 100th person that got vaccine has this issue, should we just pretend it is not a real issue and that it was justified to force this on people?
It's not, because again, the rate is closer to every 100 thousandth person, if that.

>>511089004
Why doesn't everyone who smokes get cancer?

>>511086697 (OP)
This explains my grandmas sight loss even though her eyes didn't look clouded or whitened abnormally
I have to ask if she had pfizer shots done -_-

>>511087433
Lmao
>>511086697 (OP)
What's next???
Rectal bleeding?
Cock falls off?
Balls explode?
Kike nose starts to take shape?

>>511103138
You probably do. The moment your immune system drops enough, due to some other illness, or just waning with age, there's a good chance the tumors will be able to grow uncontrollably. You'll either become the hulk or die of cancer.

>>511103138
>>511103173
Because not everyone who smokes sucks dicks as well. You do though so, give it some time.

>>511103140
What's the rate of serious adverse events from the covid vaccines?

What's covids case fatality rate?

Does the covid vaccine stop you catching covid?

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>>511103256
The point is you can claim smoking is safe by the same argument.
>if it was unsafe why am I still OK?
It's not a real argument and I don't know why people engage with it.

>>511103240
But if smoking causes cancer.
Why don't I have cancer?

complacency is the power of the oppressor. they want the masses farmed; distracted with coom and political theater while they literally take over everything in the reality. it is necessary to SPEAK about things that are wrong. No one else is going to do it. who the fuck do you think is going to do it? someone at a university? your local counselman?
The culture is wayy more malleable then it is made out to be.

>>511103060
>still 1 in 100k chance of an adverse effect, including this one.
Source?
You're not just making stuff up are you anon?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/
>Results: Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 10.1 and 15.1 per 10,000 vaccinated over placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2 (95 % CI -0.4 to 20.6 and -3.6 to 33.8), respectively. Combined, the mRNA vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 12.5 per 10,000 vaccinated (95 % CI 2.1 to 22.9); risk ratio 1.43 (95 % CI 1.07 to 1.92). The Pfizer trial exhibited a 36 % higher risk of serious adverse events in the vaccine group; risk difference 18.0 per 10,000 vaccinated (95 % CI 1.2 to 34.9); risk ratio 1.36 (95 % CI 1.02 to 1.83). The Moderna trial exhibited a 6 % higher risk of serious adverse events in the vaccine group: risk difference 7.1 per 10,000 (95 % CI -23.2 to 37.4); risk ratio 1.06 (95 % CI 0.84 to 1.33). Combined, there was a 16 % higher risk of serious adverse events in mRNA vaccine recipients: risk difference 13.2 (95 % CI -3.2 to 29.6); risk ratio 1.16 (95 % CI 0.97 to 1.39).

Oh did I ruin your fun?
Is it not fun anymore?

the more interested in the truth you become, the more interested it becomes in you

>>511103660
So closer to 1 in 1000. Hardly the depopulation event you niggers made this shit about.

>>511087433
>33
Nice mason digits.
My middle brother got covid vaxxed twice about four years ago. His existing skin problems got incredibly worse, and he was recently complaining about chest pain when he was outside in the heat for too long. I don't think his eyesight was worse but he did wear glasses. He also drank a lot.
Today I had to break into his house and identify his bloated corpse for the cops who had showed up for a welfare check because he had missed two days of work.
He was 45.
I don't know if it was the covid vaxx but it didn't help. I am getting an autopsy done on him.

>>511104032
>closer to 1 in 1000
Yes, only 1 in 1000.
The covid vaccine is more likely to put you in hospital than keep you out if hospital.

See we can compromise.

>>511104032
>>511104162
Now that we have reached an agreement. That the covid vaccine didn't cause a depopulation event, but still killed and injured more people than it saved.

Do you think the vaccine mandates were justified?

>>511104162
>The covid vaccine is more likely to put you in hospital than keep you out if hospital.

I would say if you or someone close to you was immunocompromized then it was probably worth getting, but yeah it should not have been forced.

>>511102897
I'm not the Anon that knows what he's about, just a simple explanation to get you started. I don't claim to understand such things, but I can recognize when someone comes along who does. Friendly reminder to any lurkers, magic is real and (((they))) use it all the time.

>>511088177
The vax does absolutely nothing to lessen the chances of catching covid, you brainwashed retard.

>>511103660
>Study authored by Joseph Fraiman
>a British cardiologist known for peddling misinformation

>>511104354
Right, so instead of you guys coming here with garbage arguments like
>if it's unsafe then why aren't I dead
You could admit the covid vaccines did more harm than good but didn't kill everyone who took them.

I think that's a reasonable compromise.

>>511104288
No, and I never did. I took it because I am immunocompromized and was living with a family member over 60 at the time. I never supported the censorship either. What pissed me off about the antivax threads is how they started calling people like me and my family members the enemy. Taking the vax did not mean supporting shit policies. It means I didn't trust /pol/ for health advice.

>>511086697 (OP)
Anyone here vaxxed? Have you experienced any negative side affects. I’ve never taken it because I almost never leave the house.

>>511104435
>NIH
>Misinformation
Holy cope batman.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/

>Introduction: In 2020, prior to COVID-19 vaccine rollout, the Brighton Collaboration created a priority list, endorsed by the World Health Organization, of potential adverse events relevant to COVID-19 vaccines. We adapted the Brighton Collaboration list to evaluate serious adverse events of special interest observed in mRNA COVID-19 vaccine trials.

>>511104491
I see a lot of it overhyped to the point of absurdity and many of the mechanism laid out just do not make sense in healthy cells so I call out such bullshit when I see it. I'm not the meme flag poster btw.

>>511104515
>It means I didn't trust /pol/ for health advice.
Well you should have, considering that we've agreed the covid vaccines did more harm than good. You taking the covid vaccine to protect anyone else kind of fell apart when they stopped claiming the vaccines provided sterilising immunity.

>>511086697 (OP)
You can not sue the pharmaceutical capitalist but you can sue the government. Coz they made the experimental gene therapies, aka the VAX, mandatory.

>>511104077
Sorry about your brother Anon.

>>511104631
>I see a lot of it overhyped to the point of absurdity
Right, but we are just saying that the covid vaccines did more harm than good. Nothing absurd about that since we have both agreed on this point.

>>511104697
>you can sue the government
That's why they get so sensitive when you cite sources proving the covid vaccines did more harm than good (although they didn't kill everyone who took them).

>>511104662
If they reduced viral load then they reduced transmission and they reduced symptom severity. There are percentages between 0% effective and 100% effective.

>>511104711
I like the way you argue, very clean and concise; well done.

>>511086697 (OP)
Cataracts increase anyone?
There sure has been.

>>511104711
We agree on that point, but in most of these threads they are full of people talking about depopulation nonsense. That is the most common narrative on that here and that is why people come to these threads to make fun of people.

>>511086697 (OP)
>the future is the people who demanded I be killed for not taking the jab demanding I pay to care for them as they suffer from blindness, heart disease, and brain degeneration all so they could go outside a few weeks sooner
My answer is no. You showed who you were when it mattered most.

>>511104786
>If they reduced viral load
If they reduced viral load you would be right.

Except they didn't reduce viral load.
https://www.ucdavis.edu/health/covid-19/news/viral-loads-similar-between-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people

It's amazing that people just repeat things without checking whether or not it's true.

>>511104830
Thanks anon I've been doing this for a long time.

>>511086697 (OP)
>Where They're Going They Won't Need Eyes
; )

>>511104854
>depopulation nonsense
Right and I have conceded that the depopulation never happened.

My government just mandated a vaccine which did more harm than good.

Which either is or isn't a big deal depending on your perspective.

>>511104888
Alright I will concede that one, but as for reducing symptoms that has evidence and in the immunocompromized it would be worth it.

>>511105003
It is a big deal and I was among those saying it should never have been mandated in the first place. Again when people are coming to these thread to fuck around they are usually coming to fuck with the depopulation types.

Whats the point of these articles? Not defending the clotshot just curious because its been known since forever that covid is a endothelial disease, and since the jabs are basically concentrated covid + adjuvants for that sweet autoimmune disease you have endothelial disease on steroids + possible autoimmunity. This translate to literally thousands of possible symptoms and diseases.


Yeah it can fuck up your eyes, and your nails and your teeth and your dick and hair and stomach and literally everything because your whole body vasculature is now affected.

Why is this newsworthy though?????


>>511088177
Trueeee, but getting the jab is linked to probably permanent immune dysfunction = chronic covid because you can't fully clear the virus now

>>511105248
I haven't said that no one should have taken the vaccine.

You seem bright enough to realise the red deer was a psyop in order to defend a lost position. The position is lost when people have to concede the covid vaccine did more harm than good, at that point you can no longer defend the covid vax.

You can however talk about the red deer and how not everyone who took the vaccine died, which is true, just like its true that my government mandated a vaccine which did more harm than good.

I think this was a constructive conversation.

>>511091655
It’s a mind boggling crime against humanity. It’s one of the things that so deeply grieve me about recent events, it’s also damning proof that the people in charge are not simply profiteers, they truly are evil; this vax is a reason unto itself —- needing no others at all to justify the action — to expel the Jews. Covid is yet another hoax that, independent of all other considerations, is itself suitable pretext to expel them. There are literally hundreds of independent crimes that constitute just cause for any sensible people to expel such a group as would commit so heinous of actions; and with Jews we have so many crimes that are so ghastly and monstrous your main obstacle when making the case against them is in cluttering the case with so many atrocities that people get confused and overwhelmed.
It doesn’t seem possible that one relatively small group could be so singularly and deliberately evil. It truly does beggar belief. But it’s all true and worse than we even suspect. We only know bits a pieces. We will, in time, learn the whole truth of things. There will be some trials, believe you me. Very public and highly publicized trials. That is one of the things I know for sure. Many of them will testify openly against each other and their mafia. The people will learn the truth, and their truth shall set them free.

>>511087913
No. It's real. My boss has this exact condition. Doctors told him he'd go blind in about 6 months. No history of it in his family. Dude is perfectly healthy. Doesn't drink. Doesn't smoke. Doesn't eat junk food. He's vax maxed and now is going blind.

>>511090729
>https://afru.com/unvaccinated-silence/
You know, this probably _will_ be the the reaction once the mainstream finds out and not even the media can hide it. They will turn it right back around on us and blame us.

>>511105483
>You seem bright enough to realise the red deer was a psyop in order to defend a lost position.
I think it was a psyop designed to do a lot more than that. Red deer did all of the following
>Turned attention away from the Wuhan lab leak and dangerous gain of function research.
>Made any vaccine skeptics look retarded and steelmanned opposition
>Turned much of the community against people who took it or who had loved ones who took it. (Pic related)
>Was used as an entry point to feed even more retarded shit to people who believed it and then associate the rest of the ethnonationalist right with those beliefs. Germ theory denial and Flat earth are beginning to take hold on this board.
>Deradicalize those who did not believe the obvious bullshit claim coming from the rest of the community

Red deer really was the most effective psyop that was ever pulled on this community. It took years but they found something that works. Red deer is still bearing fruits some of these people believe sex with White women will give them prions.

>>511103660
>10.1 and 15.1 vaccinated
>17.6 and 42.2 placebo

so... the placebo resulted in 3x more adverse events? WTF is this study actually counting? Can you explain?

>>511106302
Right, so the red deer wasn't organic and when you're here arguing with the people talking about depopulation you're probably arguing with government shills and / or bots.

>>511106389
>I can't read and understand a scientific study.
It's ok.

It's a little over 1 in 1000 as the other anon pointed out. It didn't kill everyone who took it, it just killed and injured more people than it saved.

>>511104412
no vaccine in existence does that. It protects you from suffering the worst effects. those measles outbreaks? you're still getting measles on you, but if you're vaxed you don't even notice it.

>>511104662
>covid vaccines did more harm than good
wrong.
unvaccinated overrepresented covid deaths, by far

>>511106539
Lmao.
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/researchers-clarify-why-measles-doesnt-evolve-to-escape-immunity/

>>511106592
Right but the covid vaccines caused a serious adverse event in just over one in a thousand people who took it.

Which was far more than the number needed to vaccinate to prevent a serious adverse reaction from covid.

>>511087433
PERFECTLY safe and effective

>>511106389
>>511106482
It looks like your handler has gone and I know you're a bot but here, read again.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/
>Results: Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 10.1 and 15.1 per 10,000 vaccinated over placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2 (95 % CI -0.4 to 20.6 and -3.6 to 33.8), respectively.
>over placebo baselines
>over

>>511088177
>the flu permanently damages your kidneys
nigger get the fuck out of here

>>511088658
Doctor told my mom a month ago she has 10 years left of vision.

>>511104412
this drove me crazy during the pandemic. people assumed because they took a glorified cough drop vax that they negated all risk of covid or ‘long covid’ with no evidence to support this.

>>511104888
This study was about the delta variant, which the vaccine was not made for. For the original and earlier variants, I saw studies that clearly showed lower loads and clearing in fewer days. This is common antivaxer shill tactic. Like that video that shows ever decreasing "effectiveness" headlines, when the headlines are showing subsequent variants (which is still amazing that you'd even get 50% effectiveness protection from like a 8th variant mutation from your original dose)
also, this same article notes this:
>Vaccines have been shown to be highly effective in preventing severe disease, hospitalization and death from COVID-19. For example, as of mid-September, 41 out of 49 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 at UC Davis Medical Center in Sacramento were unvaccinated.

>Breakthrough infections where vaccinated people do become sick can occur, especially in areas where virus prevalence is high.

>Although vaccinated people with a breakthrough infection are much less likely to become severely ill than unvaccinated, the new study shows that they can be carrying similar amounts of virus and could potentially spread the virus to other people. This study did not directly address how easily vaccinated people can get infected with SARS-CoV-2, or how readily someone with a breakthrough infection can transmit the virus.

>>511106812
I used to love putting it back on them after.
>I'm triple vaccinated I can't catch covid
>Anon that's not how it works
>Wait why did we all take the vaccine then?
>uhhhhhhhhh

>>511106905
That's why making a vaccine for a rapidly mutating rna virus is tenuous at best.

Wouldn't you agree?

>>511088177
Catching the vaxx is linked to suddenly died syndrome. Roll the dice maskie.

>>511106393
It wasn't organic, but many of the people who bought into that shit were organic. I have an IRL friend who also browses /pol/ who bought into much of that shit.

>>511106905
>>511106962
>Breakthrough infections
Lmao remember when they used to say that?

Before everyone who took the covid vaccines also caught covid? I miss your handler, he was reasonable, too reasonable really.

>>511106482
>>511106760
why are you specfically IGNORING the numbers I quoted. Can you explain why in this study the PLACEBO caused 3x more adverse events than the vaccine? Or are you going to just ignore me a second time?

>>511107033
My apologies you're still here.
If it stopped him taking the vax then it's a positive right? Considering how the covid vax did more harm than good?

Claiming the vax will kill everyone is like claiming the vax stops people catching covid. Both positions are self evidently wrong and can easily be observed to be wrong.

>>511106599
what are you laughing at? Nothing I wrote was wrong. DO you not know how vaccines work? Oh wait, you're posting in a 4chan antivaxer thread, of course you don't.

>>511106962
I mean we do it for the flu virus and it does in fact save lives. And yes I am aware they are often less than 50% effective for flu viruses. That does not mean useless.

>>511107060
>the PLACEBO caused 3x more adverse events
Maybe my friend can explain it to you.

>Results: Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 10.1 and 15.1 per 10,000 vaccinated over placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2 (95 % CI -0.4 to 20.6 and -3.6 to 33.8), respectively.
>over placebo baselines

"Over the placebo baselines"

Do you understand what that means?

>>511099689
NOOOO NOT THE HECKING MALARIERINO!!

>Seethe more, but it won’t bring yr children ba-ACK!

>>511107164
The measles vaccine stops you catching measles.

>>511088658
wait till you get 5G in the area, this activates the vaxx

>>511107153
>If it stopped him taking the vax then it's a positive right?
You can argue it was a noble lie once upon a time. Now it just serves to make the right look retarded and people still cling to this shit.

>>511102203
>You all are a bunch of fucking pussies. You lost family members to this vaccine or damaged for life yet you sit and let these fucking pieces of shit get away with it.
hey, I warned 'em

>>511107181
>we do it for the flu virus and it does in fact save lives
The flu vaccine is quite safe and isn't mandated. You don't need to vaccinate your children with the flu vaccine to send them to a private school because we acknowledge it doesn't really work.

My mother is old and she takes the flu vax every year, I think it's fine.

>>511107292
how many jabs are you on rn

>>511107292
>the right
The what now?
Did you get different instructions?

Admitting the covid vaccine did more harm than good isn't a partisan issue.

>>511107292
>people still cling to this shit.
OK, that's fair but did you keep reading?

>Claiming the vax will kill everyone is like claiming the vax stops people catching covid. Both positions are self evidently wrong and can easily be observed to be wrong.

>>511106919
The ‘disease’ and ‘virus’ terminology being mixed mislead the population en masse too. The vaccine was only initially tested for efficacy in suppressing the disease. The initial Pfizer/moderna study didn’t even measure transmission of the virus.


It was such a maddening period, I’m grateful to have experienced it though ultimately but disappointed in humanity

>>511087433
You get what you pay for.

>>511107439
They used all the credibility they had gained from making safe vaccines that provide sterilising immunity and used it up claiming that the covid vaccine would be like these other vaccines we all grew up with.

>>511106676
No. leaf here.

>The rate of serious adverse events following COVID-19 vaccination is generally low. In Canada, for example, the rate of serious reports is 11.1 per 100,000 doses administered. Public Health Ontario reported a rate of 3.2 serious adverse events per 100,000 doses administered for all COVID-19 vaccine products combined.

>>511106812
the number of unvaxed people dying vs vaxed begs to differ.
stop confusing "catching covid" with protection against the worst effects.

>>511107525
Admitted rate of serious adverse events.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/

Numbers needed to vaccinate to prevent a serious adverse event from covid.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1131409/appendix-1-of-jcvi-statement-on-2023-covid-19-vaccination-programme-8-november-2022.pdf

>>511106962
like I said, it still gave protection for mutations, and that antivaxer scare video showing declining numbers is just proof. 80 and 90% for multiple variants down the line is still really good. Then they can make one to target the latest generation.
They do it for influenza. Every year.

>>511107364
Yes, the right. Specifically ethnonationalist circles. Kikes have been trying to poison the well for years and the depopulation death shot shit works.

>Admitting the covid vaccine did more harm than good isn't a partisan issue.
The doomsday narrative seems to be almost exclusive to the right
>Claiming the vax will kill everyone is like claiming the vax stops people catching covid. Both positions are self evidently wrong and can easily be observed to be wrong.
I would argue the difference here is one is a doomsday prophecy that continues to be pushed to later dates and the other is something that the establishment will be able to brush under the rug as people dig their heels in on doomsday prophecies.

And you understand how pretending everyone who disagrees with you is a paid shill/bot doesn't help, right? Like you only make schizo accusations look true when you pull that shit.

>>511107596
Lots of unvaccinated covid deaths were within 14 days of a covid vaccination.

It's hard to claim this data as relevant when people who had received a covid vaccine within 14 days counted as unvaccinated.

What if someone died from a vaccine side effect within 14 days of being vaccinated, should they be counted as an unvaccinated covid death.

>>511107199
yes, it means exactly what I said. the vaccine has 10 events over the placebo's 17, and 15.1 over the placebo's 42.
Do YOU understand what it means?

>>511090329
>1/100000000 vaxes were contaminated
>0/100000000 vaxes tested against transmission.
Must logical people would see those numbers and realize, maybe only 1/100000000 clot shots WEREN'T contaminated.

Honestly though I only have 2 questions: how many experimental shots of gene therapy did you inject into your bloodstream to prevent you from catching covid, and how many times have you caught covid?
Be honest, for the lols.

>>511107509
Agree, but specifically I mean more that they would intentionally mislead people into believing suppressing COVID itself stopped transmission of the virus causing the issue. The CDC even had a disclaimer about this on their website, clarifying how they used the terminology and that disease is the symptomatic expression and virus the viral object that causes it. They blurred the line between what a disease is and what a virus is intentionally. Stopping the spread of COVID-19, the disease, was itself a misleading phrase, for example. You’d want to stop the spread of the virus, SARA-COV-2, which the original studies did not even measure. The vaccine then was just basically a cough drop.


It was just amazing to me how few people read the source studies and just injected themselves and argued in favor of it without even understanding the terms being used.

>>511107236
You think it creates some kind of magical force field so that some other measles person who touches you/breathes on you/has sex with you is not able to transfer it to your body? You can't stop a virus entering you. You can stop it from doing damage by your immune system being able to quickly act against it thanks to the memory immune cells

>>511107841
Over the placebo baseline.

You don't want to die on this hill.

>>511107997
It's hard to blame Pfizer because they did actually admit that they didn't know if it was safe or if it worked.

>>511108007
OK but the measles vaccine stops you catching measles.

>>511107791
Ah, new instructions.
You're too good for this.
You started off very reasonable.

>>511108130
No, it stops you from suffering from measles effects. I thought I made the difference very clear. are you 12?

>>511108251
People who take the measles vaccine don't catch meales.

People who take the covid vaccines catch covid, multiple times.

I'm sorry.

>>511108058
Over the placebo's baseline of 17 and 42 per 10,000. You've had a number of chances to explain what YOU think it means. I've told you what it means. Feel free to correct me.

>>511108108
I agree, the media and gov’t was to blame imo. Generally speaking the academic / scientific side was honest but the journalist and mass media were not.

And to be clear there’s a lot of value in something that simply suppresses symptoms — symptoms can kill. I don’t take any issue with that. The issue was in the miscommunications and it’s hard to believe it wasn’t intentional.

>>511108337
The placebo group acts as a baseline.

The study group showed a rate of adverse events *above* the placebo baseline.

I know you're a bot. Trust me you don't want to die on this hill.

>>511108323
and people who get exposed to measles multiple times catch measles multiple times.

>>511108408
Not if they're vaccinated.

>>511108407
No, because the placebo numbers are higher than the vaccine numbers. You're misconstruing what "over" is referring to. And you're the only one dying as you once again failed to explain the numbers.
If you claim "over" means the vaccine events are MORE than the placebo, then by how much? And what do the 17 and 42 represent?

>>511108457
No, even if you're vaccinated, you still catch the virus. Like I said, a measles vaccine does not form a magical barrier around you like a death star shield that shatters viruses that hit it.

>>511108222
Yeah anon. The only real person here is you and people who agree 100% with your narrative. That kind of shit is why red deer was a successful psyop, just so you know.

>>511108508
>If you claim "over" means the vaccine events are MORE than the placebo
Yes.

That's why it says over.

>Results: Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 10.1 and 15.1 per 10,000 vaccinated over placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2 (95 % CI -0.4 to 20.6 and -3.6 to 33.8), respectively.
>over placebo baselines

10.1 and 15.1 higher than the placebo baselines.

You've climbed this hill now you're digging a hole. All that's left is to die.

>>511108604
You're a real human, no doubt about that.

>>511106302
You have no idea how much pressure and malice the jab-free faced during 2021-2022. While we know red deer and that other post about the unjabbed becoming x-men by 2024 are wishful thinking now, those are the things that kept people from giving in back in the day when everyone else is trying to force the jab on them

>>511108803
>While we know red deer and that other post about the unjabbed becoming x-men by 2024 are wishful thinking now, those are the things that kept people from giving in back in the day when everyone else is trying to force the jab on them
That's kind of pathetic. Especially when many of the jabbed did think you should have a choice.

>>511104412
It actually leads to negative efficacy after a few months, which means taking the experimental gene therapy increases your chances of catching covid.

>>511108723
I'm far worse than a bot or a shill. I am, and may Allah forgive me for uttering this word, a phoneposter.

>>511108605
>10.1 and 15.1 higher than the placebo baselines.
"over placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2"

Once again, you had the chance to explain the number I quoted the VERY FIRST TIME, and you failed. So the vaccine causes fewer adverse events than the placebo. If it causes more than how much more? compared to what number?
You don't even know what the study is counting, do you?

>>511108604
Can you tell your bot where he's going wrong?

>>511109048
>10.1 and 15.1 higher than the placebo baselines.
>"over placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2

So 10.1 and 15.1 higher, respectively than the placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2

Do you understand what a baseline is.

>>511108803
The people who said you should must get jabbed were a tiny minority of schizos. I'd say it's exactly equal to the few percent of schizos who support trannies and tell you you must use pronouns in your bio to support them or you're a terrible person. I never thought anyone should be forced to get it for any reason. Not even hospital staff. (but then those who don't should be shunted to other duties and be more closely monitored so if they do show symptoms, are made to stay home)

>>511109159
No please explain it to me. How many placebo numbers of adverse events were there and how many vaccine numbers.

>>511109195
>The people who said you should must get jabbed were a tiny minority of schizos
And the Australian government.

>>511108323
>People who take the covid vaccines catch covid, multiple times.
The vaccines helped limit the spread which forced the virus to mutate to slightly different versions which were less lethal, saving the world from spanish flu or bubonic plague scenarios. A combination of lock downs, social distancing, and vaccines helped limit the spread of earlier variants, and encouraged mutations which were less harmful but more transmissable. Those later versions further assisted the effect of herd immunity, which pretty much cleared the virus off completely. Knowing all of this, how else would you expect things to go down given a virus actually happened? Virus happened, people worked together to clear it. It wasn't easy though, there's always some people resistant to any idea, even if it's a good one. Before, people thought microwaves made turned their food radioactive. Are the vaccine resistors going to be the next microwave resistors?

>>511109229
>How many placebo numbers of adverse events were there
17.6 and 42.2

and how many vaccine numbers.
10.1 and 15.1 higher than the placebo baselines.
So 27.6 and 57.3

>>511109235
And the American Universities

>>511109159
>So 10.1 and 15.1 higher, respectively than the placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2

so a while ago you were arguing that those were absolute numbers, of 10 per 10000 and that it means 1 in 1000 were having events. Now you're saying it means ... what? 10.1 more than some placebo number you can't define? 10.1x more than some placebo number you can't define?
You tell me, which is it?

>>511109235
Hear hear
Burgers and thinking the rest of the world is exactly like their state, name a more iconic duo

>>511109237
>The vaccines helped limit the spread
No, no it didn't.
It reduced symptoms. Me and your colleagues who is much smarter than you have already agreed on this.

>>511090865
underrated

>>511109349
The numbers over the baseline show a slightly higher than 1 in 1000 rate of serious adverse events from covid vaccination.

It's just not that complex.
Your handler understood straight away.

>>511109318
>17.6 and 42.2
Lolno!!!!
so you're saying there was a total number of 17.6 adverse events from a placebo? Are you retarded? How do you get 0.6 of an adverse event?

>>511109159
I don't have a bot.

>Florida surgeon general speaks against COVID-19 mRNA vaccines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCzkM1hvxcc

Shadilay Muthafuckers.

>>511109362
>It reduced symptoms
Coughing is a symptom, and coughing helps spread the airborne virus

Imagine getting the vax after they made the government waive liability before production. If any vax-cattle or vax-apologusts want to debate just come see me instead so I can destroy what's left of your gay frail body.

>>511109431
So now you're backtracking again. You just said that there were 27.6 and 57.3 events per 10000.
>handler
I don't know what you're talking about, but I guess that's just par for your retarded course.

>>511094432
>t. Physician
ie. The most brainwashed group of people on earth

>>511109476
You're playing dumb on purpose.
A placebo group is always used as a baseline in studies like this, otherwise there's nothing to compare the numbers to.

That's why the number above the placebo baseline is important.

>>511109543
that's why you wear a mask. see how all the efforts worked together, in the same way they all did during the spanish flu? 100 years ago? When people were apparently smarter than current year?

>>511109431
>handler
You're retarded. People are clowning on these threads because the whole covid vax shit was made about a gay depopulation prophecy and those of is who said it wouldn't happen were shouted down as "shills" and now that it's very obvious that it's not happening we come to these threads to mock those people. People you would like to pretend do not exist.

>>511109674
right, so how many placebo "events" were there?

>>511109575
You're trying to debunk a the NIH.
If you don't understand the study it's not my problem.

>>511109510
Are you willing to admit this poster is a Large Language Model?

>>511109476
Care to point out where it's getting mixed up? Of course not. You're only here to argue with anti-vaxxers.

>>511109741
Do you need me to read it out loud for you?

>>511109510
Prove it's not your bot and tell it where it's going wrong.

>>511109693
I thought we agreed that the covid vaccine didn't kill everyone who took it, instead it just did more harm than good.

>>511109822
You've had like 8 replies now to answer my initial question about what the numbers I quoted mean. You still haven't done it. I'm all ears.

>>511109038
For shame, have you no self respect?

>>511109764
I understand it perfectly. You don't. The placebo group has more adverse events per 10,000 than the vaccine group.

>>511109931
>>511109988
Anon, that's simply not the case.
I'm hoping your handler will explain it to you.

The vaccinated groups numbers are over the placebo baseline. A human can't make such absurd claims then look in the mirror, but you can.

>>511109693
>very obvious it's not happening
I wouldn't count your chickens just yet.

>>511086697 (OP)
>>511087433
>>511090603
TWO
MORE
WEEKS

>>511109575
It would help your case for being a real poster if you took off your memeflag.

>>511109893
Yes, we did agree on that. What you are not understanding is that people coming to these threads to mock the doomsday types might not disagree on that point. On /pol/ the vax shit was not made about "Oh its rushed and will have side effects we shouldn't force it" no it was "The vax is a depopulation plot and if you disagree you're a disloyal shill!" The people talking shit in these threads are coming to mock that group. Not because a secret army of bots/shills, but because a significant number of retards made this shit about a failing doomsday prophecy and these threads are easy targets for fucking with those retards.

>>511088658
I didn't get any vaxx, why I didn't die on Cuckvid yet?

>>511110042
HOW MUCH OVER?
I'll quote these numbers again, just to point out to everyone what a retard you are.
>17.6 and 42.2 placebo
what do these placebo numbers represent. You tried to say they were whole numbers added to the vaccine numbers. then you tried to claim that they were absolute numbers, as if you can have a fraction of a whole number of adverse events.
Now for the 10th time, would you like to explain what those numbers mean, in relation to what other numbers, such as per 10,000 or what? You can't because you don't understand them.
I do. The placebo group had on average more adverse events than the vaccine group. The study is flawed in some way. Perhaps the saline solution they used contained allergens and actually caused more adverse events than the vaccine itself. Hilarious.
Or the numbers mean something totally different than what you are assuming but you can't explain them. (for like the past 10 replies)

>>511110140
Or you could man up and actually argue the point instead of ad hominem as an excuse to avoid the argument because you're losing.

>>511110194
Can you explain what "placebo baseline" means to the bot?

>>511089726
>I can't bring myself to say "I told you so"
Because you have a soul. It's comical how every faggot that's suffering is waiting for you to say it to them. I didn't want to be right! I didn't want this for you, I don't want you to suffer. Why the fuck do you think I warned you a gorillion times not to do it? You can come back from losing a job. You can't come back from going blind or dropping dead.

>>511087433
WE WOULDN'T WANNA KILL GRANDMA, NOW WOULD WE? LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

>>511110194
Seriously can you explain to the bot that it's completely wrong and trying to maintain an untenable position?

It's so confused.

>>511110365
>The placebo group had on average more adverse events than the vaccine group

>>511110493
You've had 10 chances to explain and you can't do it. You must be a very frail individual if you can't admit you're wrong and need to think that everyone who is owning you is a bot, as if that somehow means it doesn't count.

>>511110559
>The placebo group had on average more adverse events than the vaccine group

Yeah, it's pretty clear.
>10.1 and 15.1 per 10,000 vaccinated over placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2

>>511110659
>can't admit you're wrong
Lmao.

>>511110194
Seriously, prove it's not your bot and tell it it's wrong. Explain what a placebo baseline is to the bot.

>>511110245
Perhaps us who survived covid without vaccines are the real jews (chosen ones). I'd like to believe that.

>>511110717
>over placebo baselines
>over

>>511110194
Go on then, prove it's not your bot and explain to it what a placebo baseline is.

>>511086697 (OP)
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/behead-all-satans-mnm-dr/1122270988

Well that's bump limit.

>>511110194
My name is Elijah, remember it.
I'll talk to you again.

>>511110659
Read the discussion
>Using a prespecified list of AESI identified by the Brighton Collaboration, higher risk of serious AESI was observed in the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine group relative to placebo in both the Pfizer and Moderna adult phase III trials, with 10.1 (Pfizer) and 15.1 (Moderna) additional events for every 10,000 individuals vaccinated. Combined, there was a risk difference of 12.5 serious AESIs per 10,000 individuals vaccinated (95% CI 2.1 to 22.9). These results raise concerns that mRNA vaccines are associated with more harm than initially estimated at the time of emergency authorization.
>>511110493
Can we stop pretending everyone who got sick of the depopulation shit is a bot?

>>511110940
Oho, my apologies.
Thank you.

Not everyone, but that poster is nearly certainly a bot. To claim that LLM bots aren't used on /pol/ is untenable.

I never called you a bot, you're obviously human. The bot has picked a hill to die on and won't budge on it.

>>511088177
How about actual cures, that mean you don't need their stinking vax?
Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin
clean your throat religiously in the early stage of infection. Gargling with iodine works. (Whiskey doesn't work quite as well but is also helpful and tastes better.

Covid was pretty easy to cure in the early stage. It was easier to cure than to figure out if you had it. All you had to do was periodically "cure" yourself, esp. if you noticed any possible symptoms.

>>511110940
>>511111008
If it means anything to you I figured you were in charge because you're obviously the most intelligent.

Ja ne.

>>511110911
Alright, I guess we will meet again. You can find me fucking with the Polish schizo who based his world view on grok hallucinations.

>>511111008
I wasn't paying him much attention. I mentally filter out meme flags about 90% of the time.

>>511111104
Maybe we could talk about Large Language Models next time.

>>511111024
We owe a debt of gratitude to the late Dr. Zev Zelenko, who was terminally ill himself with cancer, but cured many kids of Covid in his pediatric practice, then went public and told us how he did it.

>>511111008
But yes you are right, the bots are getting worse here. You seem to be an old fag so I will drop a link to a site with some old fags. Mlpol.net yes there are retards here, but you can still occasionally find good discussion and the mods don't ban opinions they dislike.

>>511111156
>>511111104
Someone had a nice get between these two posts

>>511086697 (OP)
Cool

>>511089169
doesnt concern me as long as its not me

>>511090396
FOOKIN THIS